Frankly with as spoiled and emotional Tata is, she doesn't need to be having a kid ANYTIME SOON anyway. and vice versa for James. They both don't need a kid. It would be a disaster.
The massage looks very alike Chinese guasha. It’s not as painful as it may look and does not cause bleeding. It helps with your blood flow. Quite popular in Asia.
She wants children and he wants her to stay with him on only a chance he may? Want children someday? Hell nah 😢 that's stupid girl..... Your being played. Find someone who wants to make you 💯% happy not just his own happiness 😌
I think right now James and tata having a kid doesn't make sense but that's not what tata is asking she saying will you never what one. Tbh he should have never said he wanted children before marriage and now changing his word
As a Vietnamese person, coining is also in our culture for helping the person draw out sickness too. He has a lot of red marks indicating he was truly sick.
@@Riplaya well we do have a presidential candidate with 34 felonies, 6 bankruptcies, 3 failed marriages, a R@PE conviction, and an insurrection. So I’d say America is FAR WORSE than me asking a general question.
I don't think any decent person wants to show off their relationship on a show for others to laugh at.. so that says it all, there's no decent people on the show
As a woman that doesn’t have kids and has no desire to have any kids, it gets really old when people ask you why and when and “you should have one, you’ll change your mind” yadda yadda yadda.
I don't trust him. There's a clear cut reason he avoids ANY type of serious conversation with loved ones. At first I believed he suffered from some sort of anti-social personality disorder, but the more he reveals about himself, the more I lean towards him simply being extremely selfish and self serving.
James is cringe 😬 reminds me what happens when parents and spouces don't demand someone grows up. They also remind me of rich people who travel for a month long vacation and claimed they "lived" somewhere
James is an IMMATURE man child. He can’t even be responsible for paying for his OWN car! Seriously, he see’s a child as a “life long commitment” well so is MARRIAGE! But he doesn’t see marriage as a life long commitment, he feels he can have an easy quick exit like he did before with his past relationship if he changes his mind…. And Metalia what can I say MARY VIBES!!!
Remember, he was married before and she left. I’m not sure why, but I think it’s because he doesn’t know how to speak to anyone about the important things going on in life like her not being able to go with her. Tell her on the way to the airport.
I have just been diagnosed with Graves Disease (hyperthyroidism) recently. I'm guessing the doctors in the US didn't order bloods to test hormone levels. Hyperthyroidism physically feels like being under constant stress. Racing/pounding heart, feeling tired but your body can't switch off and calm down, upset stomach, anxiety, sweating, nervousness. If she's had anxiety before, she probably thought it was just intense stress (like I did). She might have been offered a test, but it was too expensive.
I have hypothyroidism, it's much worse, no energy, muscle aches-everywhere, weight gain, hair loss, dry skin, migraines...depression those are the manageable symptoms.
she’s seems cute and kind, pretty infantile but that’s not so bad, she’s young. i don’t understand why people hate her. she deserves better and especially MUCH better partner.
It’s the selfishness and immaturity. They are both exactly the same and have no way to balance each other out. The fact that she’s even talking about having a baby to make it all better is concerning.
Watched the episode. Tata had to drag it out of James and he still tried to play dumb when he had told their friend and told the camera crews. It was too much work to get the truth from man, girl leave
What you’re not considering though is…A lot of American women tend to seek health advice from abroad because American doctors can be biased when it comes to women in pain. They tend to tell them it’s their menstruation or downplay it and they later find they had cysts, fibroids or even worse. I am not shocked that they didn’t pick up on it in America. When it comes to women, western doctors can be extremely dismissive and sexist. It’s a trend on TikTok with people getting medical help in Asia, especially female sensitive issues and it being cheaper and way better abroad.
As far as I'm concerned no one ever needs to have a *reason* for not wanting kids. If more people had children for articulable reasons rather than it just happens or it's just what you do, we'd all be better off. The world is populated - multiplying is no longer the default. THAT SAID, you should never ever lie about wanting to have children (or not). Never. Both people need to 100% no question agree on the matter of children. This is first date (or before!) conversation. Disagreeing about having/raising children is also absolutely a legitimate reason to end a relationship. This is your one life - and more importantly the lives of your potential offspring - stop f*cking around. This is THE most legitimate deal breaker there is - no hard feelings, just move on to someone with the same goals.
Am a mother of a 18 years old boy, my thyroid was uprooted back in 2016 when my son was 10 years old. Am in a serious happy relationship for the last 14 years en my husband never had issues with me not being able to have kids with him, he love my son like his own son. He loves me unconditionally en I always thank en honor God for him 🙏 God's grace is always sufficient 🙏 Am wishing this couple best of luck en loads of love. God's timing is always the best 👌
She's wasting her time with him. She wants to be a mother more than anything. He's lying about not knowing for sure if he doesn't want kids. He doesn't want them, period.
The younger generation often thinks it’s weird to talk about kids before marriage. NO! After dating my husband for 3 months I straight up asked him “do you see yourself having kids?” He said yes and asked me the same; I said yes. It’s an important topic so no one ends up wasting their time.
We Southeast Asian do this massage all the time if we're not feeling well. It's meant to make your body release the toxin like she explained. It looks red like that. I haven't done it personally though.
the "massage" is called kerokan!! it's very popular and common in Indonesia. I'm half Indonesian and grew up there and it is something your loved ones give you
My friend is from indonisa and even now in the states he gets that coin message done. I have seen pictures of him with the scars. He loves it but it looks like hell to me.
(Whether or not Tata found sick pleasure in it) ..that IS a very real form of massage! You basically massage and (gently) scrape out toxins and scars from injured muscle and fascia- that rises to the surface in temporary bruising (those red marks - which look bad, but IS NOT painful). This process essentially clears out scar-tissue that’s been preventing blood from flowing back to those injuries (which is essential to repairing them) - Bruising means healing! “Sick-pleasure” - maybe ; it’s pretty nice to take the time and energy to give a massage… I’D LIKE ONE.
Thanks for this explanation. I've never had this kind of massage, but visually it reminds me of cupping therapy. I had it quite often as a child since I tended to cough all winter. That was in the 70' (meaning cupping had been forgotten for a long time where I lived in Europe). When my classmates saw the brown and red marks on my back in the changing rooms before/after PE, they were horrified. But it's a very efficient therapy for loads of different ailments, and I'm sure it has been used for thousands of years. Years later, while I was travelling in Indonesia, I saw a group of men on a street applying to each other what looked like rhino horns, and I instantly recognised cups, even though the ones in my childhood had looked like light bulbs. And incidentally, James said that he was feeling better the day following the massage 😉.
Tata uses her tears as emotional manipulation just like Mary...same story line same immaturity 😱 And apparently she wants ppl to take care of her...life isn't all roses & a baby isn't a doll 🤔
That coin massage is very common in Asia, it helps with fatigue, cold and other symptoms. Pls be more informed of other cultures, rather than naming it torture.
Maybe not at that very moment while they have no home of their own, job, and paying a car off in the U.S. but saying never any kids is very wrong of him when she told him in the beginning before they got married that she wanted kids. He should of said this before they got married.
That is a conversation you need to have before you get married. You can’t put that on someone after all the costs and emotions of marriage and hope for the outcome you want. Especially in some cultures you woman might not be looked on kindly once divorced and you have ruined her chance of ever having a family
Oh, I was heartbroken telling my dad I didn’t want to have a baby. My husband has 2 children and that fulfilled the ‘motherly role’ I felt like I needed. I was already in the ‘high risk pregnancy’ age.. but I’ll be honest, that was only an excuse. I was his only shot (only child) at being a grandpa and that weighed on me. But he took it well, on the outside at least. He supported me. Plus, he has my step children. So I can’t imagine being raised in this culture, where it’s not only expected but heavily pushed… and having to tell my parents this. That would be so much harder. I feel for her!!!
Whether she's a teenager or an adult, she's a child having a child. She needs to grow up if she thinks using a baby as a pawn to improve their relationship is acceptable. A lot of work to be done on themselves, separately, before either consider bringing a life into their collective and individual messes.
This comment section is a den of hypocrites. When it's a man that changes his mind and wants kids after marrisge, everyone is full of anger but now that it's flipped and the guy changes his mind to not wanting kids after marriage, everyone is now like "meh 🤷🏿♂️"
Tata is so immature. Upset, talk to James. Tata feels unwell take your thyroid meds, it will help your mood, vs changing countries. . James is correct they are in no place to add a kid to their debt burden. Plus when they married and talked family, the plan was 2 incomes living in Maine. She changed the plan, now hes supposed to have firm plans, and decisions?
@marciestoddard730 yeah one of my close friends is Cambodian and I've seen him get coined before and his back looked even worse but he swore that he felt great the next day
If they agreed to have kids before the marriage, James is in the wrong. If she wants to be a mother, she has limited time to do it, and if she needs to find another man he’s just messing this up. I wasn’t sure if I wanted kids when I met my husband, but he was clear that it was a deal breaker for him. We agreed to “try” for kids but if it didn’t work out then we wouldn’t do invasive procedures like IVF. All this discussed and agreed BEFORE we married.
This lead to the point where this type of shit has to be discuss before married. Ask deep question! Do you want kids? Where do we settle? Can a wife still working or just become a house wife? 😢😢😢😢
The amount of people who don’t start off a relationship with talking about wishes of the future is shocking Marry? Live where? Kids? Work/life balance? A fired if mine, spit up with his fiancé 2 months before a $100.000 wedding, because they weren’t greening on wedding and kids.
Its always so funny: people want kids, not matter what. And look at that dirty beach: is thos what you want to give to your kids? You could start to make the world a beter place snd THEN have kids. People are so selfish,
As much as i believe that tata doesn't need a kid, James is disgusting for trying to run out her biological clock until it was too late. He keeps trying to give her hope that "one day" they could have a kid when he goin leave her with that kid ALONE!!!! He is trash man. In order to marry her, he needed to make 3 COMMITMENTS, and he has succeeded in NONE of them. Not a single one. Why these KIDS even together, ion know.
James needs to be up front with his thoughts of not having kids before the marriage. So that she could had a chance to marry someone else. James is really a scum bag not telling her first.
It's traditional medicine my people also use a spoon to scrape at the skin. You aren't suppose to understand it if it isn't your tradition. My mother use to do this to us when we were little kids when we got sick. It's like how white folks eat hot dogs on july 4th, it's their tradition even if it's weird to other cultures 😂
Having alot of kids is extremely important to Muslims. Average Muslim woman pumps out about 6 kids and with men can have up to 4 wives that's 24 kids at least per family. This is important because a Muslims baby is born Muslim. Its not a choice. Hence they are raised to Muslim and it's Muslim woman's duty to have alot of kids to increase Muslim population. That's just how it is. So this should've been communicated before thing got serious. I would ve mad if he knew me wanting kids is important but then said nahhhhh no kids for me. That's so wrong. It's also wrong the other way too. Why don't people figure this out before hand? And if if they lie about then they are with for the dun only
She should have answered his question about whether she’d stay with him if he said no with ‘I can’t give you a hard answer right now’. Unfortunately, based on what we know of James, he is the kind of man who will ask his wife if she loves him enough for him to be enough (ie no kids) while crying. Then he will ask her to inform her parents of ‘their’ decision to not have kids.
Perhaps what James meant was, he can’t picture himself have children with Tata. I don’t think he wants to remain in this marriage. And the girl family member Tata was talking to is not her sister but her niece.
James has given up so much for Tata .. quit his job, left his country without much money ..all because of Tata wants to return her country without any plans. I can understand James does not want to have kids, how to raise kid without money. Does she expect her parents to help her takecare of the kids? Now they have to depend on her parents ... Tata really thought about herself only, now they have problems to pay off their debts .. and she still demanding to have kids now! James is too kind and nice. If they stay in US, has a stable job and home, i think James will consider kid but now in Indonesia now ...no job, no house and no money ... I doubt any guy want to kid in that situation even they have mentioned they want kid.
Thing is, we're never 💯 'ready' to have kids! Her parents are all there to support in the early years. It's what family are there for. Let her have a baby.
James need to really get lost. Its so cruel to marry a girl who wants kids when you don't is selfish and not loving. Kinda cruel
...And he told her he wanted them kids to begin with.....
@@butterflyblue7761 aweful guy!! Such a deceiver. He just wanted to trap her.
Yes! Cruel. Also tell your friend before telling you wife, is absolutely cruel
@@wardiya3arbiya ah I can see telling your friend your thoughts. The friend telling it to your wife is not cool, not her place.
@@pmd1933
If the friend hadnt told her we have no idea if he ever would. I'm glad the friend told her.
It's terrible that he lied to her. But he is right - the two have no job, no money, no home - it is not the time to have children.
Frankly with as spoiled and emotional Tata is, she doesn't need to be having a kid ANYTIME SOON anyway. and vice versa for James. They both don't need a kid. It would be a disaster.
Yeah, they can't even make ends meet. How are they going to afford to take care of a kid?
Yeahhhh, she is enough of a damn child herself, with her ridiculous temper tantrums... 🙄
Imagine being a baby that has a mother who cries more than you
With all this crying I am depressed for him. I just can’t with all this crying 😢
The massage looks very alike Chinese guasha. It’s not as painful as it may look and does not cause bleeding. It helps with your blood flow. Quite popular in Asia.
That's an ancient style of massage. I had one on Vietnam and was left bleeding. I did feel better after but I'm not sure why lmao
Removes toxins
Bleeding...after a massage should not be happening...
@@NatalieRabuzin nor would feeling better afterwards 🙄
Girl you just went through agony😂 not being in agony usually does make one feel better
Y'all in the comments are morons. Don't know shit so you just talk down to someone who actually does
She wants children and he wants her to stay with him on only a chance he may? Want children someday? Hell nah 😢 that's stupid girl..... Your being played. Find someone who wants to make you 💯% happy not just his own happiness 😌
They're living off her parents and children will just be more burden to them
@@admar6934 it is tricky...they could have a baby and he may leave eventually anyway...
I think right now James and tata having a kid doesn't make sense but that's not what tata is asking she saying will you never what one. Tbh he should have never said he wanted children before marriage and now changing his word
James already has a kid, Taya 🥴
@dav0n wow really? That he doesn't support?
No he doesn't have a kid @@helenaawdry8916
He shouldn't even be there he knew she wanted kids and he doesn't he never should have married her
As an Indonesian, that is not as painful as you may think. It is very traditional and I really respect James for fully embracing the local culture
Is it also tradition for yall to cry and whine literally ALL day everyday?
As a Vietnamese person, coining is also in our culture for helping the person draw out sickness too. He has a lot of red marks indicating he was truly sick.
@@dav0n are American tradition to be this way ? Why generalize ppl
@@Riplaya well we do have a presidential candidate with 34 felonies, 6 bankruptcies, 3 failed marriages, a R@PE conviction, and an insurrection. So I’d say America is FAR WORSE than me asking a general question.
@dejhahollis-llao5653 well yes, Americans love to criticise other cultures
That’s a selfish question to ask any woman never mind one who has been adamant about having children
Tata is NOT mature enough to have a baby. Actually neither is he. That is one couple that shouldnt be together.
james basically lied to her parents, he has done nothing that he has promised them
He's an American: what do you want?
Ya so let's have a kid we can't afford. He is a smart guy.....
Why people always getting hurt on this show? 😂
Bcs of crazyness or lie or even hiding the truth
I don't think any decent person wants to show off their relationship on a show for others to laugh at.. so that says it all, there's no decent people on the show
More drama more views. I think it’s even “encouraged” by the producers for these couple to create more drama in these kind of reality shows
Pure delusion and a need to not be alone .
@Testrudi1981😂😂😂😂😂
As a woman that doesn’t have kids and has no desire to have any kids, it gets really old when people ask you why and when and “you should have one, you’ll change your mind” yadda yadda yadda.
I don't trust him.
There's a clear cut reason he avoids ANY type of serious conversation with loved ones.
At first I believed he suffered from some sort of anti-social personality disorder, but the more he reveals about himself, the more I lean towards him simply being extremely selfish and self serving.
Because she is so emotionally unstable and they can't even earn a decent living
James is cringe 😬 reminds me what happens when parents and spouces don't demand someone grows up. They also remind me of rich people who travel for a month long vacation and claimed they "lived" somewhere
James is an IMMATURE man child. He can’t even be responsible for paying for his OWN car! Seriously, he see’s a child as a “life long commitment” well so is MARRIAGE! But he doesn’t see marriage as a life long commitment, he feels he can have an easy quick exit like he did before with his past relationship if he changes his mind…. And Metalia what can I say MARY VIBES!!!
Remember, he was married before and she left. I’m not sure why, but I think it’s because he doesn’t know how to speak to anyone about the important things going on in life like her not being able to go with her. Tell her on the way to the airport.
Yup
I have just been diagnosed with Graves Disease (hyperthyroidism) recently. I'm guessing the doctors in the US didn't order bloods to test hormone levels. Hyperthyroidism physically feels like being under constant stress. Racing/pounding heart, feeling tired but your body can't switch off and calm down, upset stomach, anxiety, sweating, nervousness.
If she's had anxiety before, she probably thought it was just intense stress (like I did). She might have been offered a test, but it was too expensive.
I have hypothyroidism, it's much worse, no energy, muscle aches-everywhere, weight gain, hair loss, dry skin, migraines...depression those are the manageable symptoms.
she’s seems cute and kind, pretty infantile but that’s not so bad, she’s young. i don’t understand why people hate her. she deserves better and especially MUCH better partner.
Yes, cute.. but too irresponsible for her age.. She's not 17 anymore.
@@veronikadadajova2553she’s 27! Her frontal lobe is developed! No excuse
It’s the selfishness and immaturity. They are both exactly the same and have no way to balance each other out. The fact that she’s even talking about having a baby to make it all better is concerning.
And she wants a baby!!?! She's not ready even if she thinks it will be cute... 😱
Why would James want a kid when he’s literally dating a child?
No joke
😂😂
😂😂
Watched the episode. Tata had to drag it out of James and he still tried to play dumb when he had told their friend and told the camera crews. It was too much work to get the truth from man, girl leave
What you’re not considering though is…A lot of American women tend to seek health advice from abroad because American doctors can be biased when it comes to women in pain. They tend to tell them it’s their menstruation or downplay it and they later find they had cysts, fibroids or even worse. I am not shocked that they didn’t pick up on it in America. When it comes to women, western doctors can be extremely dismissive and sexist.
It’s a trend on TikTok with people getting medical help in Asia, especially female sensitive issues and it being cheaper and way better abroad.
The first part actually happened to me. Had to do my research and get a second opinion.
Yup. It's very sad.
As far as I'm concerned no one ever needs to have a *reason* for not wanting kids. If more people had children for articulable reasons rather than it just happens or it's just what you do, we'd all be better off. The world is populated - multiplying is no longer the default.
THAT SAID, you should never ever lie about wanting to have children (or not). Never. Both people need to 100% no question agree on the matter of children. This is first date (or before!) conversation. Disagreeing about having/raising children is also absolutely a legitimate reason to end a relationship. This is your one life - and more importantly the lives of your potential offspring - stop f*cking around. This is THE most legitimate deal breaker there is - no hard feelings, just move on to someone with the same goals.
They had five years to talk about this crap what is wrong with people?
Am a mother of a 18 years old boy, my thyroid was uprooted back in 2016 when my son was 10 years old. Am in a serious happy relationship for the last 14 years en my husband never had issues with me not being able to have kids with him, he love my son like his own son. He loves me unconditionally en I always thank en honor God for him 🙏
God's grace is always sufficient 🙏
Am wishing this couple best of luck en loads of love. God's timing is always the best 👌
She's wasting her time with him. She wants to be a mother more than anything. He's lying about not knowing for sure if he doesn't want kids. He doesn't want them, period.
Criminy I thought those were paint, I would never allow someone to do that to me. That isn’t something that would be desirable
It’s similar benefits to cupping! Very helpful, just a different technique
This long silence was manufactered in montage, you can see he was moving his mouth.
True
The younger generation often thinks it’s weird to talk about kids before marriage. NO! After dating my husband for 3 months I straight up asked him “do you see yourself having kids?” He said yes and asked me the same; I said yes. It’s an important topic so no one ends up wasting their time.
She shouldn't give it up to be with him. She should find someone who wants the family she wants, and that is honest with her.
We Southeast Asian do this massage all the time if we're not feeling well. It's meant to make your body release the toxin like she explained. It looks red like that. I haven't done it personally though.
James looks like Brendan. Am I the only one that sees that?
Love your recaps! Very spot on!!
She does look like she is 15 yo. And has the maturity of a 15 yo.
That's part of her charm
well his fuckboy Im gonna go to Asia and buy myself a human doll mentality isnt exactly any better.
@@davicool4284if you are a pedophile
The "scraping" on back is similar to cupping, the skin goes crazy red very fast, but it is not painful 😄
the "massage" is called kerokan!! it's very popular and common in Indonesia. I'm half Indonesian and grew up there and it is something your loved ones give you
Have you ever heard of Rolfing?
Look it up. Basically the same thing but usually done in USA for athletes to help muscles heal ...faster lol
OMG THOSE ARE CUTS?!! I thought they were like painted on guidelines for the massage! That’s awful 😣
Scrapes, bruising
@@joywebster2678 Ah, ok
It is bruising.
it's same as cupping, fast superficial bruises, not painful
Yes, those red bruises are not painful at all and will go away in 1-2 days (based on my own personal experience)
In so many cultures where family and children are the most important thing, having children are a must have.
My friend is from indonisa and even now in the states he gets that coin message done. I have seen pictures of him with the scars. He loves it but it looks like hell to me.
That’s a normal Indonesian massage method. My Dad use to get messages when we lived in Jakarta back in the day.
Dang she’s so beautiful
James DOESN'T want children. He doesn't need to be a father to children HE DOESN'T want. He needs to be straight with Metallica.
(Whether or not Tata found sick pleasure in it) ..that IS a very real form of massage! You basically massage and (gently) scrape out toxins and scars from injured muscle and fascia- that rises to the surface in temporary bruising (those red marks - which look bad, but IS NOT painful). This process essentially clears out scar-tissue that’s been preventing blood from flowing back to those injuries (which is essential to repairing them) - Bruising means healing! “Sick-pleasure” - maybe ; it’s pretty nice to take the time and energy to give a massage… I’D LIKE ONE.
Thanks for this explanation. I've never had this kind of massage, but visually it reminds me of cupping therapy. I had it quite often as a child since I tended to cough all winter. That was in the 70' (meaning cupping had been forgotten for a long time where I lived in Europe).
When my classmates saw the brown and red marks on my back in the changing rooms before/after PE, they were horrified. But it's a very efficient therapy for loads of different ailments, and I'm sure it has been used for thousands of years.
Years later, while I was travelling in Indonesia, I saw a group of men on a street applying to each other what looked like rhino horns, and I instantly recognised cups, even though the ones in my childhood had looked like light bulbs.
And incidentally, James said that he was feeling better the day following the massage 😉.
@@anne-claudec9405 absolutely! It does similar !
Come on ! This guys need to be more stable to have kids .. they even can’t take care themselves imagine having a baby
The only thing about this story line is that in America.....the doctors couldn't figure out what's wrong with her. That's extremely common here.
Tata uses her tears as emotional manipulation just like Mary...same story line same immaturity 😱
And apparently she wants ppl to take care of her...life isn't all roses & a baby isn't a doll 🤔
That coin massage is very common in Asia, it helps with fatigue, cold and other symptoms. Pls be more informed of other cultures, rather than naming it torture.
Are we sure she's an adult she looks like she's 15
Those coin massages are amazing they really work
Maybe not at that very moment while they have no home of their own, job, and paying a car off in the U.S. but saying never any kids is very wrong of him when she told him in the beginning before they got married that she wanted kids. He should of said this before they got married.
Tata was lied to. I don’t think that she should stay in a marriage with this man if he will not have children with her. Period.
Tata is always crying I cant
That is a conversation you need to have before you get married. You can’t put that on someone after all the costs and emotions of marriage and hope for the outcome you want. Especially in some cultures you woman might not be looked on kindly once divorced and you have ruined her chance of ever having a family
Oh, I was heartbroken telling my dad I didn’t want to have a baby. My husband has 2 children and that fulfilled the ‘motherly role’ I felt like I needed. I was already in the ‘high risk pregnancy’ age.. but I’ll be honest, that was only an excuse. I was his only shot (only child) at being a grandpa and that weighed on me. But he took it well, on the outside at least. He supported me. Plus, he has my step children. So I can’t imagine being raised in this culture, where it’s not only expected but heavily pushed… and having to tell my parents this. That would be so much harder. I feel for her!!!
The coin massage is legit
i think tata is resentful as evidenced by James' back.
I wouldn’t want to have kids with an immature liar either. James is valid
Whether she's a teenager or an adult, she's a child having a child. She needs to grow up if she thinks using a baby as a pawn to improve their relationship is acceptable. A lot of work to be done on themselves, separately, before either consider bringing a life into their collective and individual messes.
Temper and emotions are part of thyroid problems i believe
This comment section is a den of hypocrites. When it's a man that changes his mind and wants kids after marrisge, everyone is full of anger but now that it's flipped and the guy changes his mind to not wanting kids after marriage, everyone is now like "meh 🤷🏿♂️"
They both constantly lie to everyone I don't know how they can trust each other
Ew, James is gross. I hope Tata chooses herself and her future.
He needs to be direct for once in his life and let this girl go.
That coin oil massage work great for fever and cold for real you feel better within hour but the con is the pain but isn't too bad.
It’s called coining. It’s an Asian thing.
He probably doesn't want kids because she is always crying like a damn baby herself. I wouldn't have a child with anyone so unhinged!
People change their minds & theres nothing wrong with that!
Tata is so immature. Upset, talk to James. Tata feels unwell take your thyroid meds, it will help your mood, vs changing countries. . James is correct they are in no place to add a kid to their debt burden. Plus when they married and talked family, the plan was 2 incomes living in Maine. She changed the plan, now hes supposed to have firm plans, and decisions?
She can always have a child without his consent, like many women do. 🤷♂
James looks anything BUT relaxed during that massage tho 😂😂😂😂
2:26Not the "drawing out toxins" from the body 🤦♀
It was believed and still is that recirculating the blood can help bring sicknessness to an end. Toxins coming out tho, probably no.
@marciestoddard730 yeah one of my close friends is Cambodian and I've seen him get coined before and his back looked even worse but he swore that he felt great the next day
You should do an update on Angela and Michael!
This woman is a crybaby.
If they agreed to have kids before the marriage, James is in the wrong. If she wants to be a mother, she has limited time to do it, and if she needs to find another man he’s just messing this up.
I wasn’t sure if I wanted kids when I met my husband, but he was clear that it was a deal breaker for him. We agreed to “try” for kids but if it didn’t work out then we wouldn’t do invasive procedures like IVF. All this discussed and agreed BEFORE we married.
This lead to the point where this type of shit has to be discuss before married.
Ask deep question!
Do you want kids?
Where do we settle?
Can a wife still working or just become a house wife?
😢😢😢😢
The amount of people who don’t start off a relationship with talking about wishes of the future is shocking
Marry?
Live where?
Kids?
Work/life balance?
A fired if mine, spit up with his fiancé 2 months before a $100.000 wedding, because they weren’t greening on wedding and kids.
HOW did my algorithm not include your entire pregnancy?!😢
Its always so funny: people want kids, not matter what. And look at that dirty beach: is thos what you want to give to your kids? You could start to make the world a beter place snd THEN have kids. People are so selfish,
It's called Kerokan, it's important cured way for Indonesia people
I know it looks painful, but it’s really not that bad. It’s a traditional method used by lots of cultures in SE Asia 😅
Not when someone is left bleeding...that can be very dangerous potentially...
Tata is not immature🙄 she just looks young.
As much as i believe that tata doesn't need a kid, James is disgusting for trying to run out her biological clock until it was too late. He keeps trying to give her hope that "one day" they could have a kid when he goin leave her with that kid ALONE!!!! He is trash man. In order to marry her, he needed to make 3 COMMITMENTS, and he has succeeded in NONE of them. Not a single one. Why these KIDS even together, ion know.
It's one thing to be ignorant and another to be disrespectful and mock our Asian beliefs and massage techniques.
ouch.....
James needs to be up front with his thoughts of not having kids before the marriage. So that she could had a chance to marry someone else. James is really a scum bag not telling her first.
I thought she would be crying all the time, what has chamged simce whe. He came to indonesia?
It's traditional medicine my people also use a spoon to scrape at the skin. You aren't suppose to understand it if it isn't your tradition. My mother use to do this to us when we were little kids when we got sick. It's like how white folks eat hot dogs on july 4th, it's their tradition even if it's weird to other cultures 😂
Run James run.
Having alot of kids is extremely important to Muslims. Average Muslim woman pumps out about 6 kids and with men can have up to 4 wives that's 24 kids at least per family. This is important because a Muslims baby is born Muslim. Its not a choice. Hence they are raised to Muslim and it's Muslim woman's duty to have alot of kids to increase Muslim population. That's just how it is. So this should've been communicated before thing got serious. I would ve mad if he knew me wanting kids is important but then said nahhhhh no kids for me. That's so wrong. It's also wrong the other way too. Why don't people figure this out before hand? And if if they lie about then they are with for the dun only
She should have answered his question about whether she’d stay with him if he said no with ‘I can’t give you a hard answer right now’.
Unfortunately, based on what we know of James, he is the kind of man who will ask his wife if she loves him enough for him to be enough (ie no kids) while crying. Then he will ask her to inform her parents of ‘their’ decision to not have kids.
What happened if later when Jamie changes his mind again and wants to have kid and Tata can’t get him one…
Perhaps what James meant was, he can’t picture himself have children with Tata. I don’t think he wants to remain in this marriage.
And the girl family member Tata was talking to is not her sister but her niece.
They're not even grown up not even worked on thier marriage so immature and she wants/thinks she can deal with bringing up kids🤷♀️🤦♀️
James has given up so much for Tata .. quit his job, left his country without much money ..all because of Tata wants to return her country without any plans. I can understand James does not want to have kids, how to raise kid without money. Does she expect her parents to help her takecare of the kids? Now they have to depend on her parents ... Tata really thought about herself only, now they have problems to pay off their debts .. and she still demanding to have kids now! James is too kind and nice. If they stay in US, has a stable job and home, i think James will consider kid but now in Indonesia now ...no job, no house and no money ... I doubt any guy want to kid in that situation even they have mentioned they want kid.
Thing is, we're never 💯 'ready' to have kids! Her parents are all there to support in the early years. It's what family are there for. Let her have a baby.
With her damn temper tantrums, i would say they are already *unknowingly* raising a child as it is.... 😂😂
i feel james doesnt want kids with tata despite being married if he was to meet someone else after tata he might get the kids he didnt want
James needs to be honest and tell this girl that he likes men