Michael Owen is perma-triggered by anyone being booed because Liverpool fans booed him when he left for Madrid. Then Newcastle fans booed him when he left for United. Then everyone booed him when he became a pundit and they heard him speak for more than 12 seconds. Bless his stupid heart. Long may it continue.
This, but especially the Man U part. He was an icon during his time at Liverpool, and the fans would maaaybe have eventually calmed down for him having moved to Real Madrid and probably even Newcastle. But going to Man United AND bragging that he finally won the league with them (while spending the vast majority of that time on the bench) is not something Liverpool fans would ever let go. And I fully expect Man U fans would do the same if one of their club icons had a similar career trajectory that ended up with them at Liverpool. That's just how football rivalries work.
Lol he has a balloon d'or. That would be like u becoming a CEO at your job. Let's see u achieve success like that before u talk so much shit. He's a bit of a rat, but he's not a bad person and is one of the most accomplished English footballers in recent history
@TurboThunda 1) Nothing you just yammered out has anything to do with what I said. 2) I didn't talk shit, I said what is obvious to anyone with functioning ears and eyes. 3) If you're going to sit there and tell me enjoy his commentary, I'll call you a liar to your face. 4) What in the bloody f**k does my occupation, or rank therein, have to do with my opinions of a washed up footballer who won a popularity contest?
Owen's sense of loyalty is also pretty terrible, remember how he celebrated Sergi Roberto's goal against PSG like he was a supporter, despite being a former Real Madrid player.
@@chaosahoyhoyfootball is nothing but a sport especially to the fan, of you take it beyond that you deserve the worst, football is a job to the players and a business to the owners and a partner to the sponsors it's all money and you are the last thing on the list get a life
I'll accept that since you call it soccer. Your football shouldn't be called football though. You lose your minds when a punter can kick it more than 30 metres.
Was at the game myself, not a huge amount of boos and a lot of us were very frustrated with those who did. Many people stayed to applaud the players, despite only 3 of them applauding the fans.
Michael Owen spoke like a middle-aged accountant when he was 17. Now he actually is middle-aged, it seems to have broken what little grip on reality he once had.
I feel it is a debate that will always have two intractable sides to it. On the one hand you have those fans, who see it as a symbiotic relationship where the team has its duty - play with heart, be someone to look up to and to show the club respect; the club has its duty - to hire wisely, provide adequate funds and manage the club well; and in turn the fans have a duty - through the good times and the bad, in bad weather and not just good, at home and away (time and funds permitting). Meanwhile there are other fans who see it in a much more transactional way - that is they see it as paying good (in many cases exorbitant) money and in return they demand the bragging rights at the end of the season, everything else be damned. Neither is wrong, but neither will ever quite feel that the other point of view is approaching things the way they would (should?). It gets murkier when the landscape is different to the one I see around me. For sure, when a country is thousands of miles wide, can you always be an away fan? If you're a lower income fan, do you deserve your one game in two years to be a stinker? If your team has been the dominant force for as long as you can remember and suddenly they crumple, will you have understanding for what the team is going through? If you can't escape the feeling that the modern footballer landscape is filled with vastly wealthy, over-entitled, zero-loyalty mercenaries with no "real life" experience, will you believe for one minute they aren't a bunch of flakes? I can see why people boo. I don't, it isn't my thing. But I do have the presence of mind not to articulate that people who do are from another planet.
i remember arsenal fans booing off diaby. their own player. i could never understand it. here at liverpool we sat through djimi traore, igor biscan, milan baros and many more. and we never booed any of them. we would turn to the fan next to us and say "hes shit that lad, waste of money" and then as the player jogged by we would shout "unlucky djimi, good effort son, you will get him next time lad", then turn back to our fellow fan and almost whisper "ye we got to sell that lump asap" part of what makes places like anfield so special is the fans mentality. we can all see how much darwin nunez is struggling to live up to his price tag. we know hes a bag of revels. but we all keep chanting his name, just for closing lads down and for tracking back. the fans love him and he knows it. despite not living up to the required standards he still feels wanted. booing him would crush him and make things worse. i understand fans booing off an england manager who they want sacked. but unless city fans want to see pep sacked, they should keep their boos to themselves.
5:23 it does, teams like Union Berlin, VFL Bochum, Heidenheim always step up. Last season in the relegation battle the union fans tried many things like covering the stadium in flags, and always had choreographs in the last games, and it did work.
Apart from Hertha, which is the other 'big' club in Berlin? Union are a tiny club who play in a forest in Kopenick and are basically run by volunteers.
He is saying that because no team claims him. Liverpool doesn't because he went to Man United. Man United doesn't because he was in Liverpool. Real Madrid doesn't cause they have higher level of standards. Man is a homeless legend.
In 2013-14 Serie A Inter were 5th while Milan were 8th and the next season they were 8th and 10th despite winning the CL quite recently. I'd say that was quite a big falloff from the same city
tbf, St Pauli is not really a 1.Bundesliga club, their goal is not getting relageted and there are atleast two Clubs worse than them. Berlin Clubs tho...
Was wandering around York on Christmas Day and... best comparison for how quiet it was might be the pandemic lockdowns. Most stuff is shut; pubs might open for a few hours for dinner but otherwise you're after an Indian or Chinese takeaway, something like that if you need somewhere open. Theme Parks closed for the end of their season around Halloween. As an aside, you're looking for another city but there are no Premier League sides in the whole of Yorkshire at the moment. Not Leeds, neither Sheffield side, not Hull, Middlesbrough, Bradford, Huddersfield...
I think Berlin could probably be nominated under this - FC Union and Hertha both in the toilet right now (though the latter far more than the former...)
I don’t mind people having the right to boo, I just personally don’t do it because it seems unproductive in my opinion to my clubs success and I’m a very mathematical/logical minded person
0:28 One of Germany's greatest clubs Hertha Berlin is rotting in Bundesliga 2. and Union Berlin isn't exactly doing great after playing Champions League football last season
i always like to see it as 'hate the sin love the sinner'. as a north american liverpool fan im a bit a spoiled with this aspect but even when the players are not performing well the fans are singing songs and bringing an immense amount of energy to the game to try and elevate the players. i know it works, you can feel it and see it. i was watching the city-everton game and with all due respect i think the fans should be trying to push their players on a bit more. im not going to make any presumptions about the mentality of the fans but the players were playing with basically zero energy. the best example is nunez one of the most frustrating players to watch but you hear the crowd chant "NUNEZ!". when players are about to be subbed on fans start singing their specific song (happened yesterday with jota). its tough being compared to liverpool because theres no place like anfield on a european night but i was disappointed by the city fans. remember, 'thick and thin'. the players will feed off that and right now they need it more than ever.
There is very few clubs that will get behind the team when they are underperforming and need t9 come together and get behind the team on the pitch to help results. One main example of fans doing that for clubs is everton. The fan base is amazing. Better than most in the prem.
Owen is thick and relies on these pre-packaged "truth bombs" he thinks are pretty deep. In reality there's a difference between booing at half time for lackluster play and still being tied during a good run of form (I've seen that in Porto too often), and during what has to be one of the worst runs of form a title contending team ever had on the history of the game.
I am very sick of commentators, usually old fuddy duddies, trying to call out fans for booing a team or players, etc. Glad someone is calling it out. It's happening in cricket rn, and I am sick of commentators calling out the fans, maybe call out the flog that's being booed for being a flog. Fans pay their hard earned, within reason they can do what they want, booing is very very light in the scheme of things that a fan could do.
Well, once Ruben Amorim, your highly evaluated head coach said, "Was this my best moment (beating Man City) at Sporting? No. The best moment was when we lost 5-0 here against City and at the end the fans applauded us off the pitch. They knew we were on the right path." I think, this is what he meant. This kind of treatment from the fans, I know it's difficult to do, but that also happened with Man United last season, when they were horribly defeated by Crystal Palace, but Man United fans at the stadium backing them and singing to cheer them up even when things went wrong. So, if you never knew where all these kind of tweet came from, now you should know it. But, did they have a right to booed? Of course they have, but are people also have the right and to think other way around? Yes, they also have it too.
If I pay £66 to watch a match, I'd expect to be entertained is what I would assume the mindset of most people as a person who lives across the sea from Manchester. I would like to think that (someday) no matter the price if I get to watch a Premier League match, I would support the team for the whole 90 minilutes win or lose. Then again, I'm not the fans travelling with them up and down the country once a week so I wouldn't know what to feel if they drop a 1 win in 13 matches form.
I mean... If you look closely at their situation, they don't even have a full squad, and by "full squad" I mean having one backup player for.each position, and Man City don't have a full squad for a VERY long time, starting with the defenders, where in a back 4 you're expected to have 8 players... City have 7, and they had 7 for a long time, on the midfield, City also don't have a reserve player for each position, Rodri was playing almost 70 games per season because there was no one to be his backup, so far Guardiola managed to somehow make this work, with a squad of 20 players where there should be at least 22, but this season, with more games to play thanks to Champions League, and some of these games that were "easier" on the old format with the group stage, now are harder with the new format, suddenly you're having 8 games and 5 or 6 of these games are against teams that can actually give you a tough time, plus the fact that City now have 19 players on first team level (because they sold Alvarez, didn't bought anyone, and Mcatee kinda vanished, probably he's lost on the Man City facilities), plus the HUGE amount of injuries, the "short squad" philosophy now pays the price, City could, and SHOULD have bought players in the last 2 seasons, they didn't, last season because Guardiola is a genius they managed to win the Prem again, this year, not even a genius (and Guardiola is probably THE genius of football) can save your, because it's just impossible to play and be competitive with a NINETEEN man squad, especially in the Premier League
God how I wish our players could run on as long as that sentence. Not enough from them again. Can’t sustain that energy for 90 min. The squad’s not able to self sustain with the injuries and players aging out of the top level. Thankfully the club knows that business in January is a must and I believe things will be looking much better in a month. Respect to Liverpool and Slot, they deserve to run away with it F Chelsea
I think there's a difference between a hard-fought defeat and an embarrassing failure. If a team loses a close game they were obviously fighting hard for, I can see it feeling unfair for the crowd to boo them. But if you fail to beat a team that has no business being competitive against you, get ready for the boos.
I mean, I don't agree that it's ok to boo your team for anything else than showing no desire to do the efforts and give it your best. As a Liverpool fan, even in 2009-2015 the shitty era, there was barely any booing at all. Clubs have ups and downs, players have ups and downs, and although I strongly dislike City, there is no reason to boo them
agreed mate. who are they even booing? they booing pep? they want him gone? they cant be that bonkers. they booing gundogan for getting old? they booing haaland for missing the pen? they booing rico lewis for not being as good as cancello? who exactly are they angry at? i always associate booing with teams that are bottom of the league, just been beat 5 nil, the players stopped running and the manager needs the sack. "your not fit to wear the shirt!" imagine telling Kevin de bruyne "your not fit to wear the shirt, boooooo!!!" im with micheal owen, i think its madness.
I mean, I'd understand booing when the team is playing bad and not trying, but when the team is having a rough time and they are clearly trying to turn the page, I don't see how booing is a good reaction
As a south american, it is so funny to see that idea. The fans actually threaten the players when embarrassing results happen lmao That when they don't raid the facilities of the club
Everton, by their standards, are on a great run - only lost 2 of the last 13 ganes. Granted they have only won 2 of those games but they can be incredibly hard to beat. Man City fans booing is just a case of 'what have you done for me lately', for all the crap they get abour being plastics it has taken a decade for Man Utd fans to start booing their team off
I was at the match there literally was no booing. Can I just say it’s disgusting that players like Haaland and KDB ran down the tunnel and didn’t clap the fans. That’s what needs to be talking about as a disgrace
Dude this is the first time I’ve felt you don’t fully understand English football. Supporters support. It’s more than entertainment, it’s closer to a religion. It’s been proved time and again that fans can have a big impact on the team during a game. But I can see the point, if they’ve only started booing now that’s somewhat understandable given they look like they just don’t have the fight in them anymore
That's the first time I strongly have to disagree with your take. If your kid is having 13 straight D's, even if you know that he learned a lot (=analogy to the christmas trainigs session) and was better before, you don't demoralize him even more by saying that he sucks. You need to encourage him. Show that you are there for him. In good and in bad times. And this can 100% be applied to your favorite football club.
For city fans it may be a unique experience, as they only know oil-backed sucess since they jumped into the bandwagon, so let them experience that before they move onto the next trendy winning team.
it could theoretically happen in hamburg, st. pauli (the big club) and hamburger sv ( their small brother) but i dont follow german football closely enough to know if both are failing, although hsv is still in 2.bundesliga so probably are failing
How about Pago Pago in American Samoa or Ulan Bataar in Mongolia. All their clubs are bad......... Although not as bad as Tottenham Hotspur, Manchester United or Boldmere St Michael's!
Have to disagree. I believe its a very English thing to only support your team when things are going well. If the team gives you the impression that they try their best, you cant blame them if things are not going your way. (Although the ManCity team should normally beat up most of their opponents if they really tried their best, but I dont know)
milan is going through it ever since 2012 with the exception of 2022 and 2023 besides that the fans were very unhappy for the lack of competence in either the league or europe or both
Gee why would a former Liverpool (and man utd) striker possibly make a seemingly bad faith take against a man city situation. Similar goes for carragher, Nevilles etc. I'm not even a city fan and I literally walked my dog near the ground yesterday. I can often hear them from my house. But I walked to the top of the hill clear audible line to there, nothing, walked halfway there, nothing. I didn't even know the score, it was 1-0 to them at the time it turns out, hearing nothing. I keep walking until I hear some atmosphere eventually near there and eventually I hear something, with a Scouse accent. A sarcastic Aweeeyy type cheer. And I turn back and hear nothing more. Something very toxic is going on there now and it is funny but there's also a load of opposing hollow kick them whilst they're down takes going on. & By all means kick kick away this is football but the content spinning off from it shouldn't need to be fooled or pretending to be fooled. Unless you're owning that's what this is now.
Michael Owen is perma-triggered by anyone being booed because Liverpool fans booed him when he left for Madrid. Then Newcastle fans booed him when he left for United. Then everyone booed him when he became a pundit and they heard him speak for more than 12 seconds.
Bless his stupid heart. Long may it continue.
This, but especially the Man U part.
He was an icon during his time at Liverpool, and the fans would maaaybe have eventually calmed down for him having moved to Real Madrid and probably even Newcastle.
But going to Man United AND bragging that he finally won the league with them (while spending the vast majority of that time on the bench) is not something Liverpool fans would ever let go.
And I fully expect Man U fans would do the same if one of their club icons had a similar career trajectory that ended up with them at Liverpool. That's just how football rivalries work.
Lol he has a balloon d'or. That would be like u becoming a CEO at your job. Let's see u achieve success like that before u talk so much shit. He's a bit of a rat, but he's not a bad person and is one of the most accomplished English footballers in recent history
@TurboThunda 1) Nothing you just yammered out has anything to do with what I said. 2) I didn't talk shit, I said what is obvious to anyone with functioning ears and eyes. 3) If you're going to sit there and tell me enjoy his commentary, I'll call you a liar to your face. 4) What in the bloody f**k does my occupation, or rank therein, have to do with my opinions of a washed up footballer who won a popularity contest?
Owen's sense of loyalty is also pretty terrible, remember how he celebrated Sergi Roberto's goal against PSG like he was a supporter, despite being a former Real Madrid player.
@@chaosahoyhoyfootball is nothing but a sport especially to the fan, of you take it beyond that you deserve the worst, football is a job to the players and a business to the owners and a partner to the sponsors it's all money and you are the last thing on the list get a life
Owen lecturing anyone on loyalty is quite comical.
“The English practically invented pessimism”.
The man knows us better than we know ourselves.
But they didn't.
@GravelordWrust you're English aren't you? 😂
I mean technically, there are 2 "football" teams that are failing in the same city. The Jets and Giants of New York.
I'll accept that since you call it soccer. Your football shouldn't be called football though. You lose your minds when a punter can kick it more than 30 metres.
@@phoneboxchicken4108 I don't like American football. I like soccer more. I'm just saying.
@@phoneboxchicken4108I live better not thinking like this
@@phoneboxchicken4108 pretty stupid take considering most pro punters punt over 45 meters. But ya know
Oakland lost all of its sports teams in a span of 5 years.
Was at the game myself, not a huge amount of boos and a lot of us were very frustrated with those who did. Many people stayed to applaud the players, despite only 3 of them applauding the fans.
“A lot of us”? ”Many people”? You must be talking about the away end
@@Lmao_373 no mate, why would they be arsed about city fans booing their players after they’ve just got a decent result
City no have fans, I love that meme, funny reference
@@ninjalectualx great banter it really is
@@alfish3430 what was your former club?
Michael Owen spoke like a middle-aged accountant when he was 17. Now he actually is middle-aged, it seems to have broken what little grip on reality he once had.
London has so many clubs that at least two are failing simultaneously at any given moment.
im an everton fan but if i was a city fan and we drew to everton at home i would boo too
I mean we drew but yeah, I'd boo too. I fully expected us to be City's rubber band.
😂 you are an Everton fan... Booing is in your dna
I feel it is a debate that will always have two intractable sides to it. On the one hand you have those fans, who see it as a symbiotic relationship where the team has its duty - play with heart, be someone to look up to and to show the club respect; the club has its duty - to hire wisely, provide adequate funds and manage the club well; and in turn the fans have a duty - through the good times and the bad, in bad weather and not just good, at home and away (time and funds permitting). Meanwhile there are other fans who see it in a much more transactional way - that is they see it as paying good (in many cases exorbitant) money and in return they demand the bragging rights at the end of the season, everything else be damned. Neither is wrong, but neither will ever quite feel that the other point of view is approaching things the way they would (should?).
It gets murkier when the landscape is different to the one I see around me. For sure, when a country is thousands of miles wide, can you always be an away fan? If you're a lower income fan, do you deserve your one game in two years to be a stinker? If your team has been the dominant force for as long as you can remember and suddenly they crumple, will you have understanding for what the team is going through? If you can't escape the feeling that the modern footballer landscape is filled with vastly wealthy, over-entitled, zero-loyalty mercenaries with no "real life" experience, will you believe for one minute they aren't a bunch of flakes?
I can see why people boo. I don't, it isn't my thing. But I do have the presence of mind not to articulate that people who do are from another planet.
i remember arsenal fans booing off diaby.
their own player.
i could never understand it.
here at liverpool we sat through djimi traore, igor biscan, milan baros and many more. and we never booed any of them.
we would turn to the fan next to us and say "hes shit that lad, waste of money" and then as the player jogged by we would shout "unlucky djimi, good effort son, you will get him next time lad", then turn back to our fellow fan and almost whisper "ye we got to sell that lump asap"
part of what makes places like anfield so special is the fans mentality.
we can all see how much darwin nunez is struggling to live up to his price tag. we know hes a bag of revels.
but we all keep chanting his name, just for closing lads down and for tracking back.
the fans love him and he knows it. despite not living up to the required standards he still feels wanted. booing him would crush him and make things worse.
i understand fans booing off an england manager who they want sacked.
but unless city fans want to see pep sacked, they should keep their boos to themselves.
“How can I make this about Liverpool?”
@@jamesharrison3637 "how can I completely miss the point and just be a petty point scorer?"
@@NeilLewis77 There is no point, brainlet.
“they may suck forever” we should be so lucky
Yet Real Madrid fans will do the same thing and people will call it „having standards“
2:24: would you say a succulent Chinese meal?
a classic, some would remark...
RIP
Ah I see you know your Judo well.
gentlemen… this, is Democracy Manifest
I don’t think Michael Owen has ever said anything smart
"Maybe you should move, it's not that far away"
Won't be difficult to convince City fans...
5:23 it does, teams like Union Berlin, VFL Bochum, Heidenheim always step up. Last season in the relegation battle the union fans tried many things like covering the stadium in flags, and always had choreographs in the last games, and it did work.
Falling asleep to the dulcet tones of Z's voice
as a ten year theme park employee, there are definitely not shorter lines at theme parks on Xmas, lmao
Not least cause they're all closed in the UK
Germany does have a city where both clubs are "big" and suck.
Berlin.
Apart from Hertha, which is the other 'big' club in Berlin? Union are a tiny club who play in a forest in Kopenick and are basically run by volunteers.
Once u make it to europe multiple times, hell, the ucl in a big 4 league ur prolly invited to the at least medium sized clubs club @Veaseify
@@Admiral_Blake312 Not when your stadium holds 22,000 people and you don't fill it every week...
He is saying that because no team claims him. Liverpool doesn't because he went to Man United. Man United doesn't because he was in Liverpool. Real Madrid doesn't cause they have higher level of standards. Man is a homeless legend.
Don't forget Newcastle lol
@@Chippychips8-2 He didn't do anything at Newcastle, lol. Though, tbh, he didn't do anything at Real Madrid either.
@@Queesh10000 while he was at Newcastle, he constantly made it known that he didn't want to play for us
In 2013-14 Serie A Inter were 5th while Milan were 8th and the next season they were 8th and 10th despite winning the CL quite recently. I'd say that was quite a big falloff from the same city
Michael Owen is highly regarded in a community of people who are already massively regarded.
Hamburg has hamburger SV and St Pauli both struggling, Berlin's clubs are always failing....
tbf, St Pauli is not really a 1.Bundesliga club, their goal is not getting relageted and there are atleast two Clubs worse than them. Berlin Clubs tho...
@justinp.9078 I wanted to do an "umm, actually"
Union are a small club with a dedicated fanbase, most berliners arent football fans
@@MrSchmekel 70k members. It's one of the biggest in the country
@@horiabalaban7968 i meant in terms of success, they’re obviously gonna have a lot of club members because Berlin is the biggest city in all of europe
Was wandering around York on Christmas Day and... best comparison for how quiet it was might be the pandemic lockdowns.
Most stuff is shut; pubs might open for a few hours for dinner but otherwise you're after an Indian or Chinese takeaway, something like that if you need somewhere open. Theme Parks closed for the end of their season around Halloween.
As an aside, you're looking for another city but there are no Premier League sides in the whole of Yorkshire at the moment. Not Leeds, neither Sheffield side, not Hull, Middlesbrough, Bradford, Huddersfield...
If Real Madrid fans were willing to boo Cristiano, no one will be safe from booing.
I think Berlin could probably be nominated under this - FC Union and Hertha both in the toilet right now (though the latter far more than the former...)
I don’t mind people having the right to boo, I just personally don’t do it because it seems unproductive in my opinion to my clubs success and I’m a very mathematical/logical minded person
0:28 One of Germany's greatest clubs Hertha Berlin is rotting in Bundesliga 2. and Union Berlin isn't exactly doing great after playing Champions League football last season
i always like to see it as 'hate the sin love the sinner'. as a north american liverpool fan im a bit a spoiled with this aspect but even when the players are not performing well the fans are singing songs and bringing an immense amount of energy to the game to try and elevate the players. i know it works, you can feel it and see it. i was watching the city-everton game and with all due respect i think the fans should be trying to push their players on a bit more. im not going to make any presumptions about the mentality of the fans but the players were playing with basically zero energy. the best example is nunez one of the most frustrating players to watch but you hear the crowd chant "NUNEZ!". when players are about to be subbed on fans start singing their specific song (happened yesterday with jota). its tough being compared to liverpool because theres no place like anfield on a european night but i was disappointed by the city fans. remember, 'thick and thin'. the players will feed off that and right now they need it more than ever.
St. Stephen's Day is what you meant surely
There is very few clubs that will get behind the team when they are underperforming and need t9 come together and get behind the team on the pitch to help results. One main example of fans doing that for clubs is everton. The fan base is amazing. Better than most in the prem.
New York Jets and New York Giants
This is the correct answer
Only the Jets have been bad for 6 decades 😅
he said big teams not teams from the US pha
Honestly, NY Sports Teams in general outside of the Yankees lmao. Knicks were disgustingly bad until recently.
@@nikodraganicsoo man utd?
My team would have to show no heart on the field for me to boo them no other reasons are acceptable
This. I've booed my team before. I don't care if they lose if it's clear they're putting in the work. But when the effort stops, so does my patience.
Im actually surprised it took us THIS long to start booing
4:58 I heard it was his nephew, not niece
Owen is thick and relies on these pre-packaged "truth bombs" he thinks are pretty deep. In reality there's a difference between booing at half time for lackluster play and still being tied during a good run of form (I've seen that in Porto too often), and during what has to be one of the worst runs of form a title contending team ever had on the history of the game.
são paulo, brasil, there is 3 giant serie a teams
London??
No man you killed them with that ending, wtf.
He’s an American mate he doesn’t understand, I very nearly sent a rant of a comment about that myself 😂
Just waiting for Z to recognise Lisbon as a city with two massive-ish clubs 😢
Nah a player would always wish the fans help them fight against the odds. Imagine 3-0 down at half time in Istanbul and the fans are booing
In Germany you can count Berlin - the biggest two club in the city are bad at the same time...for some time.
I am very sick of commentators, usually old fuddy duddies, trying to call out fans for booing a team or players, etc. Glad someone is calling it out. It's happening in cricket rn, and I am sick of commentators calling out the fans, maybe call out the flog that's being booed for being a flog. Fans pay their hard earned, within reason they can do what they want, booing is very very light in the scheme of things that a fan could do.
How do some fans not understand that this is supposed to be a league where any team can win on any given day
There is no one in football I despise more than Owen, what a clown and what a great day to have Zealand speaking about him being a muppet
Day 9 of giving Everton a point deduction until zealand acknowledges me
the only acknowledgement you getting is this Ratio🙏🏻😂
@Codetrey **crickets**
@Codetrey nah you really got hit with that double reverse ratio💀
@Codetrey must hurt bro
@Codetrey if you think about it you kinda ratioed me by getting everyone to respond to you instead
First time city fans made noise
Oasis mentioned, video liked!
Michael Owen the type of dude to say Messi deserves the 2025 ballon d'or because Argentina won the 2022 world cup.
If zealandism wants a city with many big clubs failing he should come to brasil and porto alegre
Well, once Ruben Amorim, your highly evaluated head coach said, "Was this my best moment (beating Man City) at Sporting? No. The best moment was when we lost 5-0 here against City and at the end the fans applauded us off the pitch. They knew we were on the right path."
I think, this is what he meant. This kind of treatment from the fans, I know it's difficult to do, but that also happened with Man United last season, when they were horribly defeated by Crystal Palace, but Man United fans at the stadium backing them and singing to cheer them up even when things went wrong.
So, if you never knew where all these kind of tweet came from, now you should know it.
But, did they have a right to booed? Of course they have, but are people also have the right and to think other way around? Yes, they also have it too.
Support the team *during* the match, but once the final whistle goes feel free to vent. That's my dumb take anyway 😀
Love your "dumb takes" philosophy.. gonna take it on board for my new year's resolution!
Give the man a break. He has ptsd froom getting booed to the point I don't think he ever play peek-a-boo with his kids.
I Hate Zealand Not Running!
If I pay £66 to watch a match, I'd expect to be entertained is what I would assume the mindset of most people as a person who lives across the sea from Manchester. I would like to think that (someday) no matter the price if I get to watch a Premier League match, I would support the team for the whole 90 minilutes win or lose. Then again, I'm not the fans travelling with them up and down the country once a week so I wouldn't know what to feel if they drop a 1 win in 13 matches form.
I never thought I would say this but I agree with Owen.
Hamburg and Berlin
though a random luck roll at work i got man city to support and now ill be here till i die
I mean... If you look closely at their situation, they don't even have a full squad, and by "full squad" I mean having one backup player for.each position, and Man City don't have a full squad for a VERY long time, starting with the defenders, where in a back 4 you're expected to have 8 players... City have 7, and they had 7 for a long time, on the midfield, City also don't have a reserve player for each position, Rodri was playing almost 70 games per season because there was no one to be his backup, so far Guardiola managed to somehow make this work, with a squad of 20 players where there should be at least 22, but this season, with more games to play thanks to Champions League, and some of these games that were "easier" on the old format with the group stage, now are harder with the new format, suddenly you're having 8 games and 5 or 6 of these games are against teams that can actually give you a tough time, plus the fact that City now have 19 players on first team level (because they sold Alvarez, didn't bought anyone, and Mcatee kinda vanished, probably he's lost on the Man City facilities), plus the HUGE amount of injuries, the "short squad" philosophy now pays the price, City could, and SHOULD have bought players in the last 2 seasons, they didn't, last season because Guardiola is a genius they managed to win the Prem again, this year, not even a genius (and Guardiola is probably THE genius of football) can save your, because it's just impossible to play and be competitive with a NINETEEN man squad, especially in the Premier League
God how I wish our players could run on as long as that sentence. Not enough from them again. Can’t sustain that energy for 90 min. The squad’s not able to self sustain with the injuries and players aging out of the top level. Thankfully the club knows that business in January is a must and I believe things will be looking much better in a month. Respect to Liverpool and Slot, they deserve to run away with it F Chelsea
I think there's a difference between a hard-fought defeat and an embarrassing failure. If a team loses a close game they were obviously fighting hard for, I can see it feeling unfair for the crowd to boo them. But if you fail to beat a team that has no business being competitive against you, get ready for the boos.
Oakland doesnt even have sports anymore.
I mean, I don't agree that it's ok to boo your team for anything else than showing no desire to do the efforts and give it your best.
As a Liverpool fan, even in 2009-2015 the shitty era, there was barely any booing at all. Clubs have ups and downs, players have ups and downs, and although I strongly dislike City, there is no reason to boo them
agreed mate.
who are they even booing?
they booing pep? they want him gone? they cant be that bonkers.
they booing gundogan for getting old?
they booing haaland for missing the pen?
they booing rico lewis for not being as good as cancello?
who exactly are they angry at?
i always associate booing with teams that are bottom of the league, just been beat 5 nil, the players stopped running and the manager needs the sack. "your not fit to wear the shirt!"
imagine telling Kevin de bruyne "your not fit to wear the shirt, boooooo!!!"
im with micheal owen, i think its madness.
I mean, I'd understand booing when the team is playing bad and not trying, but when the team is having a rough time and they are clearly trying to turn the page, I don't see how booing is a good reaction
As a south american, it is so funny to see that idea. The fans actually threaten the players when embarrassing results happen lmao
That when they don't raid the facilities of the club
Everton, by their standards, are on a great run - only lost 2 of the last 13 ganes. Granted they have only won 2 of those games but they can be incredibly hard to beat. Man City fans booing is just a case of 'what have you done for me lately', for all the crap they get abour being plastics it has taken a decade for Man Utd fans to start booing their team off
I was at the match there literally was no booing. Can I just say it’s disgusting that players like Haaland and KDB ran down the tunnel and didn’t clap the fans. That’s what needs to be talking about as a disgrace
Micheal Owen is the one that is the trader he went and signed for united after playing for Liverpool deserves nothing but a bin
Trader Joe
Dude this is the first time I’ve felt you don’t fully understand English football. Supporters support. It’s more than entertainment, it’s closer to a religion. It’s been proved time and again that fans can have a big impact on the team during a game. But I can see the point, if they’ve only started booing now that’s somewhat understandable given they look like they just don’t have the fight in them anymore
5:00 didnt know his niece betrayed him and thats why he retired
Damn will this carry over to the club World Cup?
City now are below Bournemouth and Forest in the table
Still 7 places above United 😂
Stay with Manchester! It's my city!
Lance Armstrong(aKa 130) F.C need to stay humble!
I don't like ur take Z, but I accept it as truth!
if it was Madrid or psg, there'd be more than boos after 5 games
womp womp
What will they do when they get kicked to the bottom of the English pyramid and striped off all their titles since 2008.😮
It must be so hard being a real Madrid or Manchester city
That's the first time I strongly have to disagree with your take. If your kid is having 13 straight D's, even if you know that he learned a lot (=analogy to the christmas trainigs session) and was better before, you don't demoralize him even more by saying that he sucks. You need to encourage him. Show that you are there for him. In good and in bad times. And this can 100% be applied to your favorite football club.
For city fans it may be a unique experience, as they only know oil-backed sucess since they jumped into the bandwagon, so let them experience that before they move onto the next trendy winning team.
it could theoretically happen in hamburg, st. pauli (the big club) and hamburger sv ( their small brother) but i dont follow german football closely enough to know if both are failing, although hsv is still in 2.bundesliga so probably are failing
HSV is the big one
emptihad is the best one yet
Everton has decided to draw against every team that matters. So apparently Man City still matters.
how many times do you fkn upload man 🤣😂
I exclusively boo my team when they're doing well because they don't need me most (I support United so they're never doing well)
Partick Thistle and Queen's Park out of form. Second and Third best teams in Glasgow
How about Pago Pago in American Samoa or Ulan Bataar in Mongolia. All their clubs are bad......... Although not as bad as Tottenham Hotspur, Manchester United or Boldmere St Michael's!
*good*
Tottenham and Arsenal fail spectacularly every season and they are a stone's throw away from each other. The neighbouring specialists in failure.
It's rare for all 3 "big" London clubs to be failing at the same time and rn two of them are top 3.
Have to disagree. I believe its a very English thing to only support your team when things are going well. If the team gives you the impression that they try their best, you cant blame them if things are not going your way. (Although the ManCity team should normally beat up most of their opponents if they really tried their best, but I dont know)
Ex United player supporting City? o0
Ungrateful…but funny. But ungrateful
Man united fans:
First time?
Man City used to get 30k plus attendances in the third tier of English football, they have always had a big fanbase. Some cringe takes here
5:06 then you’re 95 percent wrong. It was his hamstring.
How about another country, like Canada! Hosting the World Cup! in two years... 🤷♀
Imgn if the Milan's and Madrid's went through this....the prem is brutal
milan already went through this, iirc in 2014 (?) milan on 10th and inter on 8th
milan is going through it ever since 2012 with the exception of 2022 and 2023 besides that the fans were very unhappy for the lack of competence in either the league or europe or both
Gee why would a former Liverpool (and man utd) striker possibly make a seemingly bad faith take against a man city situation. Similar goes for carragher, Nevilles etc.
I'm not even a city fan and I literally walked my dog near the ground yesterday. I can often hear them from my house. But I walked to the top of the hill clear audible line to there, nothing, walked halfway there, nothing. I didn't even know the score, it was 1-0 to them at the time it turns out, hearing nothing. I keep walking until I hear some atmosphere eventually near there and eventually I hear something, with a Scouse accent. A sarcastic Aweeeyy type cheer. And I turn back and hear nothing more.
Something very toxic is going on there now and it is funny but there's also a load of opposing hollow kick them whilst they're down takes going on. & By all means kick kick away this is football but the content spinning off from it shouldn't need to be fooled or pretending to be fooled. Unless you're owning that's what this is now.
I completely disagree lmao, completely disagree.
It’s entitled and shitty to boo your side at this point.
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