i am glad to see Upscayl in your Video. :) The really best thing about it is the batch upload. So you can use Adobe to export a video into frames and the upscayl the whole folder. And completely for free you have a upscaled video like from the super expensive Topaz video Upscale. :)))
Thank you for this! 👍 Unless I were making money from my images, I wouldn't spend money on an upscaler like Topaz, despite its impressive capabilities. Upscayle has worked just fine for me 95% of the time. MJ - meh. edit 1: One thing almost all of them do is remove noise/grain from images as a default 'cleanup and upscale' setting. So in case you've generated images with a little grit and noise on purpose, then Topaz takes the lead because I _believe_ it gives us control over how much it'll clean up along with the upscaling. edit 2: The photo 'Remacri' setting in Upscayle _retains_ the noise and upscales it! Awesome!
@@FutureTechPilot I'm not 100% sure. But it certainly maintained the noise with an MJ iteration in which I added grit in PS. But since I've been using it, the output files are 30-40 megs, and there's no way to choose different dimensions, I think. Yeah, I really like the Remacri version.
Thanks for the comparison video, Nolan. No question. Topaz rocks. While it's great that MJ have added their upscalers, it creates file management issues. 1.) It takes a lot longer to download the upscaled versions from their server, which I've found to be slow and unstable with batch downloads, even with their standard low res images. 2.) MJ haven't included an at-a-glance way of differentiating between the 3 different file outputs. I suggest different coloured borders or make the thumbnail sizes reflect their file size.
I’ve used other topaz tools and they are excellent. Thanks for your continued videos. I wish you gave us more prompts from your community voting midjourney photo of the day posts
cool! there is a huge problem with a topaz Face detection mask, try it on bearded man like Santa, half of beard is blurry because of portrait mask, and other half is sharp... we need to correct it by hands, why there is no detection by skin or something else... and we can't apply different types of correction to little groups of images in big batch (why?). so i ask you to make video about Topaz AI... it worth your time, i think we all say you big thanks for it.
I did that test multiply time myself. Did that again after MJ added theirs upscalers. It’s a big no. And topaz is the fastest for sure and for its speed it does give the best quality. If the time isn’t important the best upscaler of all is still Stable Diffusion img2img with control net because of its tuning, exact settings with the right samplers and upscale models. It just preserves lots of details and can add its own where it’s supposed to be while topaz only can refine the original image. But you can’t just do batch upscale like that. It will be time consuming. I personally still use SD for my MJ works but Topaz wins in speed.
I use topaz gigapixelai, I was told by many that the photoai is pretty much the same thing but with different names for the options & sliding scales. I do know topaz have released a photoai 2 … is this the version you used? Have you used gigapixel? Did I invest in the right one? I’ll run the trial but without saving & being able to analyse properly might be a tricky test?
Gigapixel is definitely good enough, but my understanding is that Photo AI is their new focus. I could be wrong about that though. And Photo AI 2 is the standard version that you can buy now - the one I used in the video
Hi @FutureTechPilot :) I have a mother of all questions regarding these examples. Have you applied Topaz upscaler on 1K base MJ photo in the video or you applied it on MJx4 photo as a base. I presume that you probably used 1K base photo for a fair comparison, but wanted to double check. All the best.
haha beauty is in the eye of the beholder! And I showed it on screen but you're right, I could have mentioned it. Figured I'd let the results speak for themselves and then I'd talk more about the price in another video
OK. I must have missed it. Could you give the timestamp, please or just the monthly rate. I have been pretty happy with Upscayl especially in batch mode@@FutureTechPilot
In my opinion none of them are necessary however they are a lifesaver if you do want one the only downside is that they're expensive but hey don't let me stop you from getting that I thought about getting one too
I find it odd that midjourney upscales rather than just recreating the image at higher resolution with more detail. Is it a limitation with the technology?
This model in particular is referred to as 'subtle' which means it changes as little as possible, but they are also working on a 'creative' upscaler that will act in the way you described. It may change the picture a little, and I can only assume that will lead to higher quality. Maybe I'm wrong about that though haha
i am glad to see Upscayl in your Video. :) The really best thing about it is the batch upload. So you can use Adobe to export a video into frames and the upscayl the whole folder. And completely for free you have a upscaled video like from the super expensive Topaz video Upscale. :)))
Wow, now that's an amazing idea. Thanks a lot for sharing!
I'd love a video on the different scalers in Upscayle
Started working on that today! Thanks for the comment
Thank you for this! 👍 Unless I were making money from my images, I wouldn't spend money on an upscaler like Topaz, despite its impressive capabilities. Upscayle has worked just fine for me 95% of the time. MJ - meh.
edit 1: One thing almost all of them do is remove noise/grain from images as a default 'cleanup and upscale' setting. So in case you've generated images with a little grit and noise on purpose, then Topaz takes the lead because I _believe_ it gives us control over how much it'll clean up along with the upscaling.
edit 2: The photo 'Remacri' setting in Upscayle _retains_ the noise and upscales it! Awesome!
Is that what 'remacri' is supposed to do?? haha I've tested it and definitely noticed that 'grain' but I wasn't quite sure what that model was doing
@@FutureTechPilot I'm not 100% sure. But it certainly maintained the noise with an MJ iteration in which I added grit in PS. But since I've been using it, the output files are 30-40 megs, and there's no way to choose different dimensions, I think. Yeah, I really like the Remacri version.
Thanks for the comparison video, Nolan.
No question. Topaz rocks. While it's great that MJ have added their upscalers, it creates file management issues.
1.) It takes a lot longer to download the upscaled versions from their server, which I've found to be slow and unstable with batch downloads, even with their standard low res images.
2.) MJ haven't included an at-a-glance way of differentiating between the 3 different file outputs. I suggest different coloured borders or make the thumbnail sizes reflect their file size.
Different colored borders is a brilliant idea
i like ur style, straight to the point ^^
Cheers pal!
I found the MJ 2x upscaler was great, but the 4x was very flawed.
Yeah I don't mind the 2x at all
Thanks for the video. Please, do one about Topaz
Will do!
I’ve used other topaz tools and they are excellent. Thanks for your continued videos. I wish you gave us more prompts from your community voting midjourney photo of the day posts
If only Midjourney saved our prompts to our images when we download them! All I have are the files I've made haha
Lots of people (like me) don't have time to look at all the AI image options out there in detail, so thanks for making this comparison/review video
I know what you mean! Cheers buddy thanks for the comment
im digging illustrator more than all of those. i turn the images n2 svg but i work with coloring images
I know what you mean!
Please do a deep dive into Topaz AI. Thanks!
Yeah sure! I started working on an Upscayl video today too, then I'll follow up with a Topaz breakdown
Ready great to the point comparison video. Thank you!
Hey I'm glad you think so. Cheers!
cool! there is a huge problem with a topaz Face detection mask, try it on bearded man like Santa, half of beard is blurry because of portrait mask, and other half is sharp... we need to correct it by hands, why there is no detection by skin or something else... and we can't apply different types of correction to little groups of images in big batch (why?). so i ask you to make video about Topaz AI... it worth your time, i think we all say you big thanks for it.
Okay great thank you so much for sharing your thoughts! I'll take a look at that now
Thanks for the effort you did for us 👍👍
And thanks for the comment!
Is Topaz Photo AI (upscaling) the same as Topaz Gigapixel I'm confused.
Similar, but not the same. Gigapixel is still amazing but Photo AI is just a newer piece of software
I did that test multiply time myself. Did that again after MJ added theirs upscalers. It’s a big no.
And topaz is the fastest for sure and for its speed it does give the best quality. If the time isn’t important the best upscaler of all is still Stable Diffusion img2img with control net because of its tuning, exact settings with the right samplers and upscale models. It just preserves lots of details and can add its own where it’s supposed to be while topaz only can refine the original image.
But you can’t just do batch upscale like that. It will be time consuming. I personally still use SD for my MJ works but Topaz wins in speed.
Very good points! Each upscaler really has their own benefits. It's almost like there is no wrong answer
I use topaz gigapixelai, I was told by many that the photoai is pretty much the same thing but with different names for the options & sliding scales. I do know topaz have released a photoai 2 … is this the version you used? Have you used gigapixel? Did I invest in the right one? I’ll run the trial but without saving & being able to analyse properly might be a tricky test?
I use Gigapixel as well and have had no issues with it. It's great. It might be one and the same with Photo AI, but with different options.
Gigapixel is definitely good enough, but my understanding is that Photo AI is their new focus. I could be wrong about that though. And Photo AI 2 is the standard version that you can buy now - the one I used in the video
Please do longer videos
I hear you!
What about bigjpg?
Haven't tried it but thanks for pointing it out!
Upscayl for the win tbh.
🤝 I respect that
Hi @FutureTechPilot :) I have a mother of all questions regarding these examples. Have you applied Topaz upscaler on 1K base MJ photo in the video or you applied it on MJx4 photo as a base. I presume that you probably used 1K base photo for a fair comparison, but wanted to double check. All the best.
Yes, the 1K base photo!
@@FutureTechPilot Thanks so much man.
why didnt you use topaz gigapixel?
I never bought Gigapixel but I guess it's definitely not a bad option either. Photo AI is just newer
why midjourney disabled upscaler for tiled generations?
I just checked and you're right, I'm really not sure what happened
@@FutureTechPilot I suspect it was screwing the tiling, the inpainting model screws it (if you recreate the border)
Can't agree with you on the wolf and upscayl. Also, why not mention the price for Topaz?
haha beauty is in the eye of the beholder! And I showed it on screen but you're right, I could have mentioned it. Figured I'd let the results speak for themselves and then I'd talk more about the price in another video
OK. I must have missed it. Could you give the timestamp, please or just the monthly rate. I have been pretty happy with Upscayl especially in batch mode@@FutureTechPilot
Please make a video of Upscayl. I'm very curious. Great video per usual! Topaz is super legit
Started working on it this morning, thanks!
In my opinion none of them are necessary however they are a lifesaver if you do want one the only downside is that they're expensive but hey don't let me stop you from getting that I thought about getting one too
haha well said!
which Topaz AI? they have like 3 photo AI products.
this one - www.topazlabs.com/topaz-photo-ai
@@FutureTechPilot thanks mate....
thanks for this video. opened my eyes for a closer look ;)
Awesome! Thanks for the comment
I find it odd that midjourney upscales rather than just recreating the image at higher resolution with more detail. Is it a limitation with the technology?
This model in particular is referred to as 'subtle' which means it changes as little as possible, but they are also working on a 'creative' upscaler that will act in the way you described. It may change the picture a little, and I can only assume that will lead to higher quality. Maybe I'm wrong about that though haha
what did you use to setup images side by side?
Just double-click and opened them in windows photo viewer or whatever. And then I placed them side by side and recorded my screen
I believe most current upscale models are CPU powered instead of GPU. You’d have to just watch the system monitor and see 🤷🏻♂️
interesting!
upscayl works fine on a gtx 1060 mobile with 4gb
That's great to hear!
Great!
🤝