I sadly have died more than I like to admit to her ult now because if she pops it in a heated close quarters combat then you'll definitely get fucked up by it
@@IAmGeorgeLucas domination maps are extremely good for her ultimate just look at throne room in yggsgard That map is pretty tight so throw it into the and someone is guaranteed to die
Cap Thor Storm is actually something very scary. You just need a really survivable healer like Rocket and they will utterly ruin enemy backline while Storm rains death from above.
I mean I think it largely depends on how your enemies react to him If they break your clones or crystals quickly you aren't going to be getting as much value from him Just like rauknows said If you don't destroy his clones or crystals he's the best support in the game If they do he's easily the worst
Rocket is slept on. - you can stay really far back on high ground and heal your entire team - you can reliably heal Spiderman and other high mobility heroes because you don't need to aim - it's possible to heal teammates without line of sight which no other support can do - he can turn a 6v6 into a 7v6 - crazy mobility/survivability in case he gets jumped - his Ultimate + another DPS' ultimate can kill Mantis while she is ulting - smaller hitbox - he can melt tanks at close range
he may be underrated but not better than literally any healer. i don't know about warlock since I have not played him but your other points are basically invalid. - you can stay pretty far back on most healers - you can reliably heal any mobility character if you're better than sub par - luna snow once again can heal with no Line of sight. If you think no, her ability can - do not know what this means tbh - he does have great mobility -2 ults for 1. - fair - if you are healing from far away then no need for dmg close. I feel as if I am alright on rocket but my average healing per 10 is significantly less than most other healers. by that I mean thousands. My Mrs. Fantastic is 18k, Jeff 14k, Luna Snow 16k, Mantis 14k, and Rocket sits at a feeble 12k. Could just be me but god bless and have a great day.
@alexcaruso3517 I mean, you aint wrong. But he do got some neat stuff to him. Like the BRB pad (I almost forgot the thing deploys armor packs or whatever those things are). And I personally think his team up abilities are really strong. Like, give Punisher infinite ammo and ult for the buff, and that shit goes crazy. And for that team up, Rocket does get a 5% healing boost lol I will concede that the majority of the other strategists are better than him, but I think he's kinda unique (idk, i like how he plays).
As a Namor main since season 0 a Groot ult combo with mine cannot always kill. Moon knight tho yea that’s pretty much true. And i’m glad people are finally realizing how powerful Namor is lololol. Took you guys long enough 😂😂😂. U really didn’t want you guys to realize. Playing next to healers with my squids keep flankers in check.
People are really sleeping on Fantastic flexibility. His kit is a bit tough so people won’t give him time to learn but he’s legit if you learn how to use him.
@@ChrisK-j7u Would you say Namor is weak? How about Punisher, Psylocke, Starlord, or Magik? I wouldn't. I think all of these characters are very good and yet Storm is still considerably better than all of them right now. She needs a tiny nerf to her damage and that's it.
Namor is my main and got him to lord pretty fast but people start hating because I insta lock dps. So I hover over him letting my team know I wanna be dps. But then I end up being support cause no one wants to
So what's your opinion in how to play Mr. Fantastic? I would like to play him more but i don't get my role, like where should i position myself to be effective?
@@thebluePumpking largely it depends on team composition, but play near cover with more that 2 exit/entry points, oppressive as hell if you are keeping up your elasticity.
I am almost in diamond and the 3 support meta has trickled down to this elo. The games im playing are around team wiping ults. I love using starlord and psylocke. But now i think i gotta learn storm and Namor. If anyone is higher elo are you guys seeing alot of dive chaacters in your games? Because im seeing lots of Hela, Naymor Storm Ironman with gamma, punisher and winter soldier mostly for DPS
I'm surprised nobody is putting moon knight in S tier. He's really good against triple support. His ult, his projectiles are good at deleting them and damaging the tanks
Agreed. He's the my highest win rate character. Easy to use and always good to have no matter what comp you go up against, insane team up with Rocket, can output tons of consistent damage. Wouldn't put him in S, but definitely A.
In low elo yes but high elo hes ult isnt good enough it doesnt compare to a namor mk psy starlord etc these heroes always need to be responded with a supp ult but punisher is just losd to easily
@ I’m ranked eternity, ik what know what I’m talking about , if u got any other troll salty rage baiter questions statements or random thought process let me know,
I feel you also have way better options compared to annoying people under a TH-cam video😂 left like 10 ridiculous comments lol I mean are you really that bored? Where do you live, Idaho?
@@vibraniumsabervibraniumsaber and you’re clearly just trying to make people respond by saying stupid stuff I feel bad you’re that bored maybe get off the phone
Rocket's heals are not that good and his weapon is almost completely unviable. Only good thing about him imo is his ability to revive one teammate. Jeff has more utility to offer than Rocket, imo.
If you think Bucky and Hawkeye are bad just say you don’t have good aim lmao. If you have the skill to use Bucky correctly he can cancel ultimates, throw opponents to your team and spam again all the time, his Pistol does crazy dps, he should be s tier
@ what lol, u make no sense, think before speak, what are you a plat player, I did not even say anything, but anyways, for your random thought process, winter soldier Bucky bad, there kit garbage your selling, throwing, way better options to pick, that are more fun, better kit abilities ults supers stronger and bring more value, it’s not about aim, it’s just a bad pick, that’s all, no need to troll dude or rage baiter lol, I’m ranked eternity, I know what I’m talking about, if you got anything else to say, let me know, I’m here to put you in your place.
Doctor strange is d, he so bad, miss pick selling throwing trolling team so hard, his shield gone in like 2 seconds, his portal get one chance for team fight, if lose game over, and with his slow fire rate, your trying to line up shots and your dead.
@ what lol, I did not even say anything lol, r u a plat player or some, anyways for your random thought process um, u must be plat, if you say strange is good, I’m ranked eternity I know what I’m talking about, don’t worry I’m here to put you in your place, if you got any other questions let me know. Strange is bad. Always has been.
@ what lol, I did not even say anything lol, r u a plat player or some, anyways for your random thought process um, u must be plat, I’m ranked eternity I know what I’m talking about, don’t worry I’m here to put you in your place, if you got any other questions let me know.
Luna mantis suck f tier, they suck, there so bad, huge miss picks, selling throwing trolling team so hard, all mantis Luna does is dmg and kills, that is what all players do with them, is focusing on dmg kills, I know there strong dmg and there ult good but not enough to make them a worthy pick, but that one second of making that decision to deal dmg kills, now your team is dead or critical for a stupid dumb decision you made, don’t do dmg kills with support, healers, heal your team that is it, rocket Loki Jeff invisible woman good best
Must be the biggest troll post ever, Luna and mantis have cc that can stop dive and they have some of the best burst healing output of any support and their ultimates turn the entire fight around. The problem isn’t the characters it’s who’s playing them
@@spaceman6693well except mantis As she has healing over time instead of burst healing Since each of her heals gives 50 health off the bat but still a majority of her healing comes from health over time instead of burst
@ what lol, r u a rage baiter troll lol, who just wants attention lol, I did not even say anything lol, r u a plat player or some, anyways for your random thought process um, u must be plat, if you say luna mantis good, all people do with them is dmg kills, that one second your on dmg kill mode, now your teammates, teammate, or whole team dead or critical for a dumb decision you made, rocket Loki Jeff invisible woman more fun, better kit stronger, I’m ranked eternity I know what I’m talking about, don’t worry I’m here to put you in your place, if you got any other questions let me know.
@ what lol, r u a troll, u make no sense, think before speak lol 😂, I did not even say anything but for your random though process um Luna bad, Jeff better, r u a plat player or some, u must be for say Luna better then Jeff, Jeff is way better not even close, Jeff players actually heal the team, all Luna players do is dmg kills, now team dead or critical, for a dumb reason you made, that one second of doing dmg kills with support, now your teammate, team, dead or critical for a dumb decision u made, I’m ranked eternity, I know what I’m talking about, if you got any other questions let me know
Squirrel ult can actually kill through some supp ults in narrow chokes, so I believe she's gonna rise to A once more people learn her
I sadly have died more than I like to admit to her ult now because if she pops it in a heated close quarters combat then you'll definitely get fucked up by it
Just shoot at it😐 they nerfed it to 300 hp
@@CantL0ve3266 easier said than done in the middle of a hectic team fight. Her ult is crazy strong on maps like
Klygar
@@IAmGeorgeLucas domination maps are extremely good for her ultimate just look at throne room in yggsgard
That map is pretty tight so throw it into the and someone is guaranteed to die
When? Didnt it get buffed to 600@@CantL0ve3266
Cap in B tier makes me incredibly happy, he’s a very solid pick and if you’re good with him he’s a menace
I personally think he’s A
He is good creates a lot of chaos among enemy team which his flank/dive teammates can capitalise on
Cap Thor Storm is actually something very scary. You just need a really survivable healer like Rocket and they will utterly ruin enemy backline while Storm rains death from above.
I'm a Thor main
I think we could be the unstoppable duo
He's just quite situational and comp dependent, whereas magneto and strange can work is any comp, any map, any team playstyle etc
Im so happy that people realized how strong Loki is. In season 0 i've heard too many times that Loki is garbage and i should switch
I mean I think it largely depends on how your enemies react to him
If they break your clones or crystals quickly you aren't going to be getting as much value from him
Just like rauknows said
If you don't destroy his clones or crystals he's the best support in the game
If they do he's easily the worst
it's because people didn't know how to properly use his kit and had more dps than healing in most cases
He takes some brain not like the other supports just sit in the back healbot all game so ofc they think hes bad
Maybe you played bad and that’s why they told you to switch?
@@TrafalgarKiri no, they specifically didn't like Loki, not me. I usually have about 30k Healing in Ranked
Captain America is so slept on. So much mobility and pressure on the back line to take away resources.
Rocket is slept on.
- you can stay really far back on high ground and heal your entire team
- you can reliably heal Spiderman and other high mobility heroes because you don't need to aim
- it's possible to heal teammates without line of sight which no other support can do
- he can turn a 6v6 into a 7v6
- crazy mobility/survivability in case he gets jumped
- his Ultimate + another DPS' ultimate can kill Mantis while she is ulting
- smaller hitbox
- he can melt tanks at close range
As a fellow Rocket player, what do you mean by "turn a 6v6 into a 7v6"?
Im assuming you're referring to his BRB pads.
he may be underrated but not better than literally any healer. i don't know about warlock since I have not played him but your other points are basically invalid.
- you can stay pretty far back on most healers
- you can reliably heal any mobility character if you're better than sub par
- luna snow once again can heal with no Line of sight. If you think no, her ability can
- do not know what this means tbh
- he does have great mobility
-2 ults for 1.
- fair
- if you are healing from far away then no need for dmg close.
I feel as if I am alright on rocket but my average healing per 10 is significantly less than most other healers. by that I mean thousands. My Mrs. Fantastic is 18k, Jeff 14k, Luna Snow 16k, Mantis 14k, and Rocket sits at a feeble 12k. Could just be me but god bless and have a great day.
@alexcaruso3517 I mean, you aint wrong. But he do got some neat stuff to him. Like the BRB pad (I almost forgot the thing deploys armor packs or whatever those things are).
And I personally think his team up abilities are really strong. Like, give Punisher infinite ammo and ult for the buff, and that shit goes crazy. And for that team up, Rocket does get a 5% healing boost lol
I will concede that the majority of the other strategists are better than him, but I think he's kinda unique (idk, i like how he plays).
Jeff isnt anywhere near rocket 😂😂@@alexcaruso3517
As a Namor main since season 0 a Groot ult combo with mine cannot always kill. Moon knight tho yea that’s pretty much true. And i’m glad people are finally realizing how powerful Namor is lololol. Took you guys long enough 😂😂😂. U really didn’t want you guys to realize. Playing next to healers with my squids keep flankers in check.
People are really sleeping on Fantastic flexibility. His kit is a bit tough so people won’t give him time to learn but he’s legit if you learn how to use him.
Dam you’re roasting the hell outta frogger 🤣
If I took a shot for how many times chat was said, I’d be 6ft under 😭
I actually hope Storm stays exactly how she is buff the weaker heros so everyone’s strong asf
And when everyone’s super…NOBODY will be. Muhahahahahahahahahaaa!
@@dusk173 honestly that is how every dev team should treat their game cus nerfing good people is just lame opposed to buffing the weak ones
@@ChrisK-j7u Would you say Namor is weak? How about Punisher, Psylocke, Starlord, or Magik? I wouldn't. I think all of these characters are very good and yet Storm is still considerably better than all of them right now. She needs a tiny nerf to her damage and that's it.
@ yes that's all true and I agree with you, there's a fine line though and I think some games cross it by nerfing everything that's fun
Lookin swole homie love to see it
Good list. I will say I pretty much never see Hawkeye in my games anymore since S0
He has the 2nd lowest pick rate in the game right now.
Good lord this dude says chat every other sentence, just talk brother😂
Love having Loki on the enemy team, i got Namor to Lord the other day and it's just free headshots
Namor is my main and got him to lord pretty fast but people start hating because I insta lock dps. So I hover over him letting my team know I wanna be dps. But then I end up being support cause no one wants to
@BB-9EZ Just lock it in and only switch if nobody locks something else in. If you hover people are gonna ignore you.
Im on a 16 win streak with mr fantastic rn and almost have him lord gm1 currently. Hopefully he gets buffed atleast his ult 😅
So what's your opinion in how to play Mr. Fantastic?
I would like to play him more but i don't get my role, like where should i position myself to be effective?
Ay another Reed main. Fantastic!
@@thebluePumpking largely it depends on team composition, but play near cover with more that 2 exit/entry points, oppressive as hell if you are keeping up your elasticity.
As a Reed main, i hate that namor get anything higher then a C tbh
I am almost in diamond
and the 3 support meta has trickled down to this elo. The games im playing are around team wiping ults. I love using starlord and psylocke. But now i think i gotta learn storm and Namor. If anyone is higher elo are you guys seeing alot of dive chaacters in your games? Because im seeing lots of Hela, Naymor Storm Ironman with gamma, punisher and winter soldier mostly for DPS
Mr fantastic b his kit good fun, just his super needs a lil something
I'm surprised nobody is putting moon knight in S tier. He's really good against triple support. His ult, his projectiles are good at deleting them and damaging the tanks
I’m an iron man, Moon Knight and scarlet witch main for DPS the community sleeps on them like crazy
As a Iron man main I completely agree.
The amount of sleep on rocket is hugee
A good Loki is tough asf. But they have to be good.
6:27 They should let Healers see and shoot through their tank’s walls.
A good Mr fantastic is literally unkillable 😭
People thinking rocket is on the same level as jeff 😂😂😂 jeff is garbage after diamond you will hardly ever find value in your ult
stop leaking that namor is soo good, keep it on the DL
I would put Jeff at a mid-high A tier or a low s-tier healer
😂😂😂😂😂 tell me your silver without saying im silver
RIP Peni Mains 😢
Nah this is good, real ones know the threat and the bronze-brain rots can keep running meta with no skill.
Best defensive character, the guy is clueless
She's good on defence in certain maps and she's a menace to melee/dive characters like magik
psylocke is S tier
YZNSA got top 1 twice with psylocke and iron man
iron man is a solid A tier bro
YZNSA got top1 twice when hes playing ironman
Hela went from S++ to S 😂
Squirrel Girl is S, so slept on
Chat - this dude
Just honest advice, try not to constantly say the wore "chat" after every statement. It gets a bit taxing on the ears. Good content, though. Cheers.
Love your vids
My only change, is cloak and dagger is way weaker than people think, she really isn’t that good
😂😂😂 shes insane bro and a must pick after luna ban
Song of Healing in background you have my respect Jay take my sub
The amount of times he says chat, damn bro has brain rot
Annoying af
Yoooo jay you need to play namor
This guy is the reason I keep getting 3 supports 😂😂😂
Punisher at B is insane! Smh 🤦♂️
Agreed. He's the my highest win rate character. Easy to use and always good to have no matter what comp you go up against, insane team up with Rocket, can output tons of consistent damage. Wouldn't put him in S, but definitely A.
In low elo yes but high elo hes ult isnt good enough it doesnt compare to a namor mk psy starlord etc these heroes always need to be responded with a supp ult but punisher is just losd to easily
@ you haven’t played in high elo with that nonsense. Thinking punisher ult isn’t good but star lord is 😂 keep struggling lol
Scarlet witch is so good, people just play her wrong, if you got a long game and not a roll game, ez 50 game kill every time
50 kills in quick play, in gm ranked a lord scarlet do 2-17-0
@ u just a mad hard stuck elo hell ranked copper troll lol, u should go back to overwatch
@ scarlet witch so good fun great, great flanks and if positioned right u can always get away and never die
@ I’m ranked eternity, ik what know what I’m talking about , if u got any other troll salty rage baiter questions statements or random thought process let me know,
@ what lol I did not even say anything
I’ll never play Namor. It’s a cop out & requires no skill. Squidward is for the meh players.
Moon Knight is in every team in mid elo
Because hes a very easy character with a s++ ultimate
@caoblade 💯
I think strange is good if you have a bad invisible woman otherwise his ult is never hitting he's going to get his happy ass flung off the map
Iron Man on B but BP on A is crazy. Quite literally the only tier list where BP is in higher than C
Well this is certainly a list! Not a good one but a list nonetheless
Say chat one more time
Way better options
I feel you also have way better options compared to annoying people under a TH-cam video😂 left like 10 ridiculous comments lol I mean are you really that bored? Where do you live, Idaho?
@ what lol, u make no sense, think before speak lol 😅😂🤣 I did not even say anything.
@@vibraniumsabervibraniumsaber I didn’t mean for you to take offense you’re just commenting a lot lmao
@@vibraniumsabervibraniumsaber and you’re clearly just trying to make people respond by saying stupid stuff I feel bad you’re that bored maybe get off the phone
@ lol u just mad, can’t admit when your wrong, 😂
Hawkey is bad his kit sucks, he just has good dmg that is not enough to make him good
Putting Wanda in D is such crap. lol I wreck people with her. And doing combos with other ults works so damn well. She’s at least in the B tier.
Rocket's heals are not that good and his weapon is almost completely unviable. Only good thing about him imo is his ability to revive one teammate. Jeff has more utility to offer than Rocket, imo.
Why does rocket have a higher win rate than cnd then
@LIlFro- Between who? Also, the overall win rate between different characters doesn't mean anything to me.
Ah yes the fact that a char is winning more than others means nothing. Of course...
@@Oibble I like winning, but I also want to have fun. So yeah, I'm not gonna care about overall win rates...
You were talking about whether he was good not fun
Dude rocket is so good ur list is trash
Jeff is so good is healing a tier
I don't know how old this is when it was live, but this is probably the least accurate tier list I've seen from most people.
The bronze critics have arrived
@@KingkongmentalScarlet Witch OP needs a nerf
@Kingkongmental I don't play ranked, nor much the game itself, but compared to others that have made one, Jay's is more different.
@@MarcusSinlak how tf you know it's inaccurate then 🤡
@Oibble because I still watch gameplay of it. Not that hard.
Rocket Jeff so good your crazy
Jeff is terrible 😂
@ what r u talking about lol, r u a plat player or something
Same thing with hela, hela bad, her kit bad, just does good base dmg, not enough to make her good,
Same with Bucky, Bucky is bad, his kit garbage
If you think Bucky and Hawkeye are bad just say you don’t have good aim lmao. If you have the skill to use Bucky correctly he can cancel ultimates, throw opponents to your team and spam again all the time, his Pistol does crazy dps, he should be s tier
@ what lol, u make no sense, think before speak, what are you a plat player, I did not even say anything, but anyways, for your random thought process, winter soldier Bucky bad, there kit garbage your selling, throwing, way better options to pick, that are more fun, better kit abilities ults supers stronger and bring more value, it’s not about aim, it’s just a bad pick, that’s all, no need to troll dude or rage baiter lol, I’m ranked eternity, I know what I’m talking about, if you got anything else to say, let me know, I’m here to put you in your place.
2/10 rage bait
@ what lol, you make no sense, think before speak, I did not even say anything.
@ troll u r lol makes sense with an ego u got lol
Doctor strange is d, he so bad, miss pick selling throwing trolling team so hard, his shield gone in like 2 seconds, his portal get one chance for team fight, if lose game over, and with his slow fire rate, your trying to line up shots and your dead.
You’re bad
Your joking right. A good strange can change games.
@ what lol, I did not even say anything lol, r u a plat player or some, anyways for your random thought process um, u must be plat, if you say strange is good, I’m ranked eternity I know what I’m talking about, don’t worry I’m here to put you in your place, if you got any other questions let me know. Strange is bad. Always has been.
@ what lol, I did not even say anything lol, r u a plat player or some, anyways for your random thought process um, u must be plat, I’m ranked eternity I know what I’m talking about, don’t worry I’m here to put you in your place, if you got any other questions let me know.
Can't tell if you're baiting or just dumb
Star lord is bad, his kit sucks way better options to play
Luna mantis suck f tier, they suck, there so bad, huge miss picks, selling throwing trolling team so hard, all mantis Luna does is dmg and kills, that is what all players do with them, is focusing on dmg kills, I know there strong dmg and there ult good but not enough to make them a worthy pick, but that one second of making that decision to deal dmg kills, now your team is dead or critical for a stupid dumb decision you made, don’t do dmg kills with support, healers, heal your team that is it, rocket Loki Jeff invisible woman good best
Must be the biggest troll post ever, Luna and mantis have cc that can stop dive and they have some of the best burst healing output of any support and their ultimates turn the entire fight around. The problem isn’t the characters it’s who’s playing them
@@spaceman6693well except mantis
As she has healing over time instead of burst healing
Since each of her heals gives 50 health off the bat but still a majority of her healing comes from health over time instead of burst
@ what lol, r u a rage baiter troll lol, who just wants attention lol, I did not even say anything lol, r u a plat player or some, anyways for your random thought process um, u must be plat, if you say luna mantis good, all people do with them is dmg kills, that one second your on dmg kill mode, now your teammates, teammate, or whole team dead or critical for a dumb decision you made, rocket Loki Jeff invisible woman more fun, better kit stronger, I’m ranked eternity I know what I’m talking about, don’t worry I’m here to put you in your place, if you got any other questions let me know.
@@vibraniumsabervibraniumsaber L ragebait, jeff is NOT better than luna
@ what lol, r u a troll, u make no sense, think before speak lol 😂, I did not even say anything but for your random though process um Luna bad, Jeff better, r u a plat player or some, u must be for say Luna better then Jeff, Jeff is way better not even close, Jeff players actually heal the team, all Luna players do is dmg kills, now team dead or critical, for a dumb reason you made, that one second of doing dmg kills with support, now your teammate, team, dead or critical for a dumb decision u made, I’m ranked eternity, I know what I’m talking about, if you got any other questions let me know