Very interesting. I am from Asia. Seeing drawings of British soldiers in story books and all that, I always thought their red uniforms are with white patterns. Never realize those are white straps for holding bags and blanket.
Very good video, very informative,deserves more views, haven't seen such a concise and good source for this sort of thing. Thanks for helping, good job
Noticed the ammo. .45-70 rim-fire (if period, but the modern version is a center-fire conversion) for the Martini-Henry, the classic rolling-block gun based on the Remington 1871 Infantry (the gun the kid in Shane had) but with a few kinks worked out and could be shot at six rounds in a minute in trained hands, regardless of the model, Marks I, II, III, or IV. The ammunition was made cheaply by hand in the workhouses by the children and the elderly by rolling used scrap tin on a ramrod or switch and then packed with the correct amount of powder to then be sealed with wax and rolled into the press machines, the last step of which was an able-bodied adult job. It managed to kill 351 outright and critically and/or mortally wound approximately another 800 junior "black-shield" Zulu warriors at the Battle of Rorke's Drift as well as arm hundreds of citizens alongside a Gardner machine gun and defend the city of Khartoum, Sudan under General Gordon in 1885 against the self-proclaimed Mahdi, the man who thought himself the Islamic messiah with 30,000 Tuareg armed with matchlocks and swords. Great firearm in the history of guns.
Those shevrons worn on the lower left sleave upside down (pointing up) are years servive stripes. Each shevron denotes 3 years served. Privates and lance corporals were entitled to them but after corporal they had to come off.
the group is called the diehards there is a website here it is: www.thediehards.co.uk/ find the contact detail page and contact uk or u.s. person depending were you are.
+EnglishHeritage Great video! Thanks for posting. I'm doing research to put together a collection or original items and want to know what type of boots/short shoes were worn. Were they the same as what was worn in the Second Boer War? Thank you.
I kinda wish that the modern british army parade uniforms would be a lot more red to tribute the red coats worn in battle from the english civil war up to 1885
This was their uniform with an extra shirt or so. Queen Victoria on inspection wanted to know what the smell was. “ Sprit de Corps’ Mam Sprit de Corps “!
Hi. Nice vid, very informative. Thx for uploading. Quick Q: those heavy Melton wool jackets worn all year round, including summertime… were those soldiers sort of X-men who could withstand the intolerable, or did they actually sweat horribly as we would today? I have always been fascinated by European (esp. British) military tailorship, yet I cannot help asking myself how 19th century European soldiers smelled after a four-hour march loaded with such a hefty equipment.
Hi Yijian Mou, I've done some historical re-enacting (though for the War of 1812, so early 19th century, rather than the Victorian period) and can speak to some of your questions. In our kit, we wore: linen/cotton shirts, wool trousers, wool tunics, wool socks, wool gaiters, leather shoes, leather neck stocks, and topped it all off with wool felt shakos (in addition to our equipment which was comparable to what was shown here and a 12 pound musket). The wool tunics we wore were not as intolerable as one might think, even in +30*C weather. The first thing to note is that the wool isn't as thick/heavy as you might imagine. If you can get to a museum, check out the historical fabrics; I was surprised by how thin they were. One should also note that wool is a surprisingly breathable fabric if you get the right weave/weight, which is why it is still preferred for fine suits today. That being said, the wool we used was on the thicker side and it was rather warm to wear in the summer months, which were typically above 30*C and humid. On these days, when one is active or in the direct heat, he'll tend to sweat until he's drenched in it, but he will eventually acclimatize and the heat levels out (thanks to the wool), so its not like you continue getting hotter and hotter until you pass out or spontaneously combust. Once you reach that point and get used to it, its fairly comfortable all things considered. As an aside, I also found that the wool, being composed of real hair, would absorb body heat and expand/retract throughout the day, which made suspenders a necessity for the trousers on hot days. Honestly, on those days, I'd find myself sweating just as much in the shorts and t-shirt I showed up in (assuming I was comparably active and in the sun). On summer days that were overcast, or breezy, or under 25*C, the wool is actually rather nice since it keeps you insulated, but doesn't tend to get too hot (so long as you're not exerting yourself too much); I found I wouldn't sweat much (or at all) on those days where I could stay in the shade/breeze. It would be comparable to wearing a suit. To respond to your final thought: I'm sure they smelled like we did--which is exactly how you'd think. Though, I would add that sweating from heat is a distinctly different smell from that of stress or body odour accumulated from not bathing for several days, being less pungent. There were various ways to combat this, but my preferred method was finding a fire pit (there was always at least one going in camp) and standing in the smoke for a time, which was very helpful for mitigating any smells, which makes sense since many soaps were made from ash and lye at the time. There's my nickel's worth. I hope you found this somewhat interesting and helpful. All the best from the Great White North, Kyle of Canada
@@KyleOfCanada I know I'm a year late to this, but thank you for explaining this, I found it quite intersesting and it helped give insight as what conditions were for soldiers at the time as well as re-enacters such as yourself. Although I don't have the time or money to do so now, perhaps in the future with more free time on my hands I might get into re-enacting, probably late 19th and early 20th century.
The 1871 Pattern Valise Equipment had the expense pouch but he is using the 1882 Pattern Valise Equipment, slightly different kit with no expense pouch.
this is a long time ago equipment so please the victorian is no longer poor armor like this now they have the strongers armor but you can find this on http//.youtube.newestarmorfromvictorissoldeirs.com
was this only for European battlefields? because in many pictures you see soldiers deployed in hotter climates gave very different uniforms, with khaki pith helmets and a cooler looking uniform
+Theo Winnington-Ingram Theo, you're right. British army uniforms went through a roughly 50 year transition period. Red woollen tunics were simply not practical in many combat environments so beginning in the 1840s, British troops on active duty started wearing clothing more suited to local conditions. Drab khaki and drab grey were the colours most used, it seems mostly at the discretion of local commanders. Khaki was only formally declared for uniform in 1902 but the vast majority of units had gone over to that by the early-mid 1890s. As an aside, French troops serving overseas (Fusiliers Marins, Bataillons d'Afrique, Foreign Legion) went through the same sort of change - while the organisationally separate French Army only decided to formally change from their bright uniforms in July 1913 - the change had hardly begun by August 1914.
Soldiers on the past were about appearance. If it's today's war with today's weapon such red uniform would be like easy target for snipper since it's too contrast compared with environment
In the period there were no radios or aeroplanes. The only way to actually control an army mid-battle was to watch them from afar and give orders. To do that you need to see your men and be able to identify exactly what they were and whose men they were. Although the red uniforms were phased out officially by 1902, on a regimental level many units began wearing khaki colors during the 1880's.
It was a regimental choice. The Colonial forces of the various australian colonies (which would become the australian army in 1901) wore red uniforms when they were at home but when they joined the Boer War they wore Khaki. What uniform you wore (And thus what color it was) would change depending on what you were doing and what they wanted from you. For example someone on guard duty on a base in a town would wear a red uniform because the red uniforms were seen as being more "Official" and more imposing then the khaki ones. Similarly at this time navies had the practice of having their ships in "Peacetime Colors" and "Wartime Grey" The United States's navy was the most impressive looking of these with it's white and tan ships and gilt decorations which they'd paint a plain grey when they're at war. The british had black hulls with white superstructures and grey funnels. This practice ended in the beginning of the 20th century as the attitude changed. Wearing bright colors was also a civilian pride thing. Having an army cost tax payers a lot of money. So if your army wears a mud color they look dirty and someone would think their taxes are being wasted on filthy worthless men. But if you have shiny brasswork and red uniforms and march in a line people are all like "Yup! That's my money well spent!"
Gajah Abuh Red was chosen not because it cheap or because as the myth had it; it didn't show blood, but rather because it was the one colour that from afar made it very difficult for the enemy to easily and accurately distinguish British numbers. The colour was found to be the most effective at merging together soldiers.
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Very interesting. I am from Asia. Seeing drawings of British soldiers in story books and all that, I always thought their red uniforms are with white patterns. Never realize those are white straps for holding bags and blanket.
British uniform is the best
they dont agree
Deutschland?
@Jonathan Sakks Nah.
good uniforms up until you need to sneak attack
@Biracial Boy German ww1 uniforms were definitely better looking, but ww2 ones were more practical
This is wonderful. Thanks for taking the time.
In July 2021, I saw this man being a reenactment actor at a museum.
A lot more comfortable than the 60-100 lbs a modern soldier must carry.
Very good video, very informative,deserves more views, haven't seen such a concise and good source for this sort of thing. Thanks for helping, good job
Noticed the ammo. .45-70 rim-fire (if period, but the modern version is a center-fire conversion) for the Martini-Henry, the classic rolling-block gun based on the Remington 1871 Infantry (the gun the kid in Shane had) but with a few kinks worked out and could be shot at six rounds in a minute in trained hands, regardless of the model, Marks I, II, III, or IV. The ammunition was made cheaply by hand in the workhouses by the children and the elderly by rolling used scrap tin on a ramrod or switch and then packed with the correct amount of powder to then be sealed with wax and rolled into the press machines, the last step of which was an able-bodied adult job. It managed to kill 351 outright and critically and/or mortally wound approximately another 800 junior "black-shield" Zulu warriors at the Battle of Rorke's Drift as well as arm hundreds of citizens alongside a Gardner machine gun and defend the city of Khartoum, Sudan under General Gordon in 1885 against the self-proclaimed Mahdi, the man who thought himself the Islamic messiah with 30,000 Tuareg armed with matchlocks and swords. Great firearm in the history of guns.
love the video, its a shame there arnt more vids for militaria of this time period
Very interesting. Thanks.
Everybody gangsta till the British kid whips out the Pith Helmet.
I wear that Every day!
Those shevrons worn on the lower left sleave upside down (pointing up) are years servive stripes. Each shevron denotes 3 years served. Privates and lance corporals were entitled to them but after corporal they had to come off.
I would like to join this society . Re-enacted victorian battles etc . How I get involved ?
the group is called the diehards there is a website here it is: www.thediehards.co.uk/ find the contact detail page and contact uk or u.s. person depending were you are.
be prepared to shell out a small fortune. Reenacting is a hobby for those with disposable income of some form.
@@78thgeorge okay thanks
The Uniform is Looking good
+EnglishHeritage Great video! Thanks for posting. I'm doing research to put together a collection or original items and want to know what type of boots/short shoes were worn. Were they the same as what was worn in the Second Boer War? Thank you.
I kinda wish that the modern british army parade uniforms would be a lot more red to tribute the red coats worn in battle from the english civil war up to 1885
Imagine if they wore uniforms from Cromwell's new model army to the late Victorian redcoats, and parade them along the weapons of their era.
Only two? People need to see this-- Nerds who study this stuff need to see this!
This was their uniform with an extra shirt or so. Queen Victoria on inspection wanted to know what the smell was. “ Sprit de Corps’ Mam Sprit de Corps “!
Hi. Nice vid, very informative. Thx for uploading. Quick Q: those heavy Melton wool jackets worn all year round, including summertime… were those soldiers sort of X-men who could withstand the intolerable, or did they actually sweat horribly as we would today? I have always been fascinated by European (esp. British) military tailorship, yet I cannot help asking myself how 19th century European soldiers smelled after a four-hour march loaded with such a hefty equipment.
Hi Yijian Mou,
I've done some historical re-enacting (though for the War of 1812, so early 19th century, rather than the Victorian period) and can speak to some of your questions.
In our kit, we wore: linen/cotton shirts, wool trousers, wool tunics, wool socks, wool gaiters, leather shoes, leather neck stocks, and topped it all off with wool felt shakos (in addition to our equipment which was comparable to what was shown here and a 12 pound musket).
The wool tunics we wore were not as intolerable as one might think, even in +30*C weather. The first thing to note is that the wool isn't as thick/heavy as you might imagine. If you can get to a museum, check out the historical fabrics; I was surprised by how thin they were. One should also note that wool is a surprisingly breathable fabric if you get the right weave/weight, which is why it is still preferred for fine suits today.
That being said, the wool we used was on the thicker side and it was rather warm to wear in the summer months, which were typically above 30*C and humid. On these days, when one is active or in the direct heat, he'll tend to sweat until he's drenched in it, but he will eventually acclimatize and the heat levels out (thanks to the wool), so its not like you continue getting hotter and hotter until you pass out or spontaneously combust. Once you reach that point and get used to it, its fairly comfortable all things considered. As an aside, I also found that the wool, being composed of real hair, would absorb body heat and expand/retract throughout the day, which made suspenders a necessity for the trousers on hot days. Honestly, on those days, I'd find myself sweating just as much in the shorts and t-shirt I showed up in (assuming I was comparably active and in the sun).
On summer days that were overcast, or breezy, or under 25*C, the wool is actually rather nice since it keeps you insulated, but doesn't tend to get too hot (so long as you're not exerting yourself too much); I found I wouldn't sweat much (or at all) on those days where I could stay in the shade/breeze. It would be comparable to wearing a suit.
To respond to your final thought: I'm sure they smelled like we did--which is exactly how you'd think. Though, I would add that sweating from heat is a distinctly different smell from that of stress or body odour accumulated from not bathing for several days, being less pungent. There were various ways to combat this, but my preferred method was finding a fire pit (there was always at least one going in camp) and standing in the smoke for a time, which was very helpful for mitigating any smells, which makes sense since many soaps were made from ash and lye at the time.
There's my nickel's worth. I hope you found this somewhat interesting and helpful.
All the best from the Great White North,
Kyle of Canada
@@KyleOfCanada I know I'm a year late to this, but thank you for explaining this, I found it quite intersesting and it helped give insight as what conditions were for soldiers at the time as well as re-enacters such as yourself. Although I don't have the time or money to do so now, perhaps in the future with more free time on my hands I might get into re-enacting, probably late 19th and early 20th century.
He was called private yet he has three chevrons
They are good conduct chevrons
That would be rather obsolete for modern warfare, but no reasons why it wouldn’t be great on parade!
Exactly!
Is this the webbing for the 1871 or the 1879 equipment?
isn't there a pouch missing from the valise gear the pouch that held the loose ammo I think it was called the expense pouch
The 1871 Pattern Valise Equipment had the expense pouch but he is using the 1882 Pattern Valise Equipment, slightly different kit with no expense pouch.
I can't understand white collars and cliffs of the red jackets. They'll become dirty in a day. How did they wash them?
Great video, I've uploaded a video on the Egyptian campaign medal, some of you may find interesting,
"and he's ready for battle"
In a home service helmet? 🤔
Wish my D.I. talked to me like that
this is a long time ago equipment so please the victorian is no longer poor armor like this now they have the strongers armor but you can find this on http//.youtube.newestarmorfromvictorissoldeirs.com
was this only for European battlefields? because in many pictures you see soldiers deployed in hotter climates gave very different uniforms, with khaki pith helmets and a cooler looking uniform
cooler as in not as hot
+Theo Winnington-Ingram Theo, you're right. British army uniforms went through a roughly 50 year transition period. Red woollen tunics were simply not practical in many combat environments so beginning in the 1840s, British troops on active duty started wearing clothing more suited to local conditions. Drab khaki and drab grey were the colours most used, it seems mostly at the discretion of local commanders. Khaki was only formally declared for uniform in 1902 but the vast majority of units had gone over to that by the early-mid 1890s. As an aside, French troops serving overseas (Fusiliers Marins, Bataillons d'Afrique, Foreign Legion) went through the same sort of change - while the organisationally separate French Army only decided to formally change from their bright uniforms in July 1913 - the change had hardly begun by August 1914.
Khaki begun being worn in India, but scarlet jackets were still worn into the 1880s or more on campaign & longer for parade & ceremony.
Private McGrath? He's got three stripes Lance Corporal, doesn't that make him Sergeant McGrath?
I would been disastrous if they kept this uniform until world war 1z
Tbf it's not like the tactics used in ww1 would have increased you sustainability
Soldiers on the past were about appearance. If it's today's war with today's weapon such red uniform would be like easy target for snipper since it's too contrast compared with environment
Rifqi Aji looks very useful in the 19th century
and they wore bright red jacket... not suitable for camouflage
In the period there were no radios or aeroplanes. The only way to actually control an army mid-battle was to watch them from afar and give orders. To do that you need to see your men and be able to identify exactly what they were and whose men they were. Although the red uniforms were phased out officially by 1902, on a regimental level many units began wearing khaki colors during the 1880's.
By the 1880's the British army really only wore Red Coats in Britain. Although some British soldiers wore Red Tunics in Sudan in 1885.
It was a regimental choice. The Colonial forces of the various australian colonies (which would become the australian army in 1901) wore red uniforms when they were at home but when they joined the Boer War they wore Khaki. What uniform you wore (And thus what color it was) would change depending on what you were doing and what they wanted from you. For example someone on guard duty on a base in a town would wear a red uniform because the red uniforms were seen as being more "Official" and more imposing then the khaki ones. Similarly at this time navies had the practice of having their ships in "Peacetime Colors" and "Wartime Grey" The United States's navy was the most impressive looking of these with it's white and tan ships and gilt decorations which they'd paint a plain grey when they're at war. The british had black hulls with white superstructures and grey funnels. This practice ended in the beginning of the 20th century as the attitude changed.
Wearing bright colors was also a civilian pride thing. Having an army cost tax payers a lot of money. So if your army wears a mud color they look dirty and someone would think their taxes are being wasted on filthy worthless men. But if you have shiny brasswork and red uniforms and march in a line people are all like "Yup! That's my money well spent!"
Just stand next to a letter box
Gajah Abuh Red was chosen not because it cheap or because as the myth had it; it didn't show blood, but rather because it was the one colour that from afar made it very difficult for the enemy to easily and accurately distinguish British numbers. The colour was found to be the most effective at merging together soldiers.
the last time that kit was used was in 1885, so not the late 1880s
true
he looks like joe exotic
sure ...
looks like
They make easy targets 😆
considering every army wore bright coloured uniform and they fought in line formation, there was no point for camo