I Found a Weird Pattern in How People `UHMMM'

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  • @3blue1brown
    @3blue1brown ปีที่แล้ว +14041

    Excellent video! I've never been so honored to have a few "um"s pointed out.

    • @anthonyhughston829
      @anthonyhughston829 ปีที่แล้ว +113

      @@0_- Liked your calculus videos helped me a lot

    • @noammanakermorag9538
      @noammanakermorag9538 ปีที่แล้ว +86

      Wow! Didn't expect to see my favorite TH-camr comment on a video an hour before me, but here we are :)

    • @gravysnake78
      @gravysnake78 ปีที่แล้ว +358

      I'd be fangirlling so hard rn if I was Not David

    • @aloglo22
      @aloglo22 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Wow hi

    • @duane6386
      @duane6386 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      😅

  • @standupmaths
    @standupmaths ปีที่แล้ว +6506

    I think the Q+A bit matches up with my personal theory (without any evidence) that Tom and I have long stretches with fewer uhms because we are flipping between bits of material we have presented to audiences loads of times, with new bits we are talking about for the first time. So I guess you can tell when a speaker is being spontaneous by counting uhms; and be offended if there are none and they are just wheeling out old material.

    • @not_David
      @not_David  ปีที่แล้ว +1455

      This is what I suspected but I didn't want to say it explicitly in fear of skewing opinions on the matter, but its nice to get some anecdotal confirmation. And thank you again for your "participation" in the "study"!

    • @niiiiiiiiiiiia
      @niiiiiiiiiiiia ปีที่แล้ว +314

      Now _this remark_ will definitely ruin my ability to watch live presentations 😆

    • @jimmylaze
      @jimmylaze ปีที่แล้ว +34

      Uhhhm

    • @stephenspackman5573
      @stephenspackman5573 ปีที่แล้ว +107

      It's a learnable skill, though. There's a British radio show called “Just a Minute” where hesitation (among other arbitrary rules) is a rules violation, and some people are quite good. Or you could look at competitive debaters, who can (some of them, and if they want) talk indefinitely _impromptu_ without umming.

    • @themaskedhobo
      @themaskedhobo ปีที่แล้ว +129

      @@niiiiiiiiiiiia Its common for public speakers to take courses on getting rid of "umms" When I took public speaking courses in college our professor said "Pauses are just as good as "umms" and "likes" for collecting yourself before continuing, but no one notices them if they are only as long as your regular "umm". It will make you appear to be more familiar with the topic" Its an older tool. So, if you notice someone not using any "umms", try to pick out short pauses instead. Its the same linguistic hesitation just no vocalization to go with it.

  • @shanetaylor5403
    @shanetaylor5403 ปีที่แล้ว +1770

    This is a great example of why interdisciplinary interaction is so essential to science!
    My dad's a speech pathologist, and as a kid I had a bad stutter. A lot of the problem was actually that I _didn't_ um. So when I'd reach a "bridge" between thoughts, where I needed to connect two ideas together (which might have different familiarity levels), instead of filling my lag time with filler words (um, er, ah, like, so, etc) my brain would grab onto my previous secure point--the last word I said--and repeat it until the connective pathway was established.
    Like another comment mentioned, this is part of why the rate of 'um' is higher in those who speak quickly: We're covering more ground faster, so the brain has to take more beats to connect ideas. 'Um' becomes like every other words: We use more of them.
    It's also why people who _think_ quickly--or slowly, too--say um more often. Thoughts grow out of sync with words, and we pause to realign things.
    As you can probably guess, my 'why' phase lasted about 8 years, and my dad ended up explaining probably a quarter of his graduate program to me in that time. A fascinating blend of linguistics, physiology, psychology, physics, and more!

    • @not_David
      @not_David  ปีที่แล้ว +237

      This was such a great read, thanks for sharing!

    • @mrmeep5989
      @mrmeep5989 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      This makes so much more sense!

    • @mikescan7050
      @mikescan7050 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      Interesting how UM helps collect your thoughts and focus, so similar to the mantra, OM.

    • @haszczyc
      @haszczyc ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Interesting...

    • @hydrashade1851
      @hydrashade1851 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      now i feel like i should um more because my thoughts are consistently way faster than my mouth, and i try to speed up my speech rather than slow down my thoughts...

  • @nataliakurinnyy6831
    @nataliakurinnyy6831 ปีที่แล้ว +2610

    My instinctive explanation for why people like Tom Scott have lower averages and higher variations is that during their presentations they go into scripted bouts, a groove where they are explaining something and where the next sentence to say is obvious and comes quickly. And they are very skilled in executing these. But then, in between these sections, when transitioning between segments, or maybe if soemthing else broke their rythm, they revert back to a more natural average like normal people. thus the variation.

    • @JamUsagi
      @JamUsagi ปีที่แล้ว +48

      If that were the cause, would they still follow a poisson distribution? In switching between scripted and unscripted segments, they’d be essentially platooning their uhms, so if this is the case then the average should tend away from the poisson distribution and towards the platooned distribution.

    • @nickdumas2495
      @nickdumas2495 ปีที่แล้ว +100

      @@JamUsagi Indeed, but that's already in the video. See @11:52

    • @JamUsagi
      @JamUsagi ปีที่แล้ว +22

      @@nickdumas2495 Ah yeah, the video bugged out on my first viewing so I must have missed that part, my bad

    • @oliviarojas7023
      @oliviarojas7023 ปีที่แล้ว

      Pretty intuitive ❤

    • @pvic6959
      @pvic6959 ปีที่แล้ว +72

      I also guess that one "um" may throw you off and you have to "um" a few more times to regain composure. I know ive done that lol. like when i loose track of what im saying it takes a few seconds to get back on track lol

  • @hughobyrne2588
    @hughobyrne2588 ปีที่แล้ว +859

    I don't remember where I learned it, but the presence of 'uhm's can actually improve the listeners' experience. It's punctuation. Punctuation increases comprehensibility. It can draw attention. An audible expression of "I'm switching gears, in my mind, a little bit" can help the audience prepare for shifting their mental gears and follow the train of thought more smoothly.

    • @not_David
      @not_David  ปีที่แล้ว +267

      I 100% agree. I think there were a couple of comments saying that it could be used as a metric of quality because less uhmms is always better, but I disagree with that. I found TED talks really stiff because of exactly this, and i think there is something humanizing about a speaker who uhmmms every so often. Its simply not natural to never uhmm.

    • @baronobeefdip8075
      @baronobeefdip8075 ปีที่แล้ว +63

      For me as a listener, the impact of an uhm depends entirely on why the speaker just uhm'ed. If indeed they're changing mental tracks or need to think over a question during Q&A, then it can help, yes.
      However, if they're the type of speaker to uhm every single time their brain has to buffer for even a moment, then the uhm is more like noise to my brain, and I have to actively filter out that noise so that I can actually parse their sentence (but that might be an issue with me as a listener). I think the Loruhm Ipsuhm example in this video is the perfect example of this. This brain-buffering type of uhm may be exclusive to casual or inexperienced speakers, but I'd say that the distinction is still important to mention.

    • @hughobyrne2588
      @hughobyrne2588 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@baronobeefdip8075 I hadn't made that kind of distinction in my mind, but it's maybe one worth thinking about.
      If I were to try to change my speech patterns - do you think a gap of silence would work better in those circumstances?

    • @ericmollison2760
      @ericmollison2760 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      ​@@hughobyrne2588 No. Ummms were invented organically as a way to indicate you are gathering your thoughts and someone doesn't need to listen for a second. Awkward random silences would not help. In a way Ummms are respectful. People can rest their brains for a second and wait patiently rather than wait awkwardly wondering why they are silent and if they have anything else to say.

    • @GonePh1shing
      @GonePh1shing ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Adam Connover recently had a linguist on his Podcast, Factually. She went into this and many other things in that interview.

  • @thelastcube.
    @thelastcube. ปีที่แล้ว +126

    3:46 the usage of Julia's Bobby Hill from Drawfee in this video about data & uhmms of science youtubers is the most unexpected easter egg i've ever come across i think

    • @AugustusGrochau
      @AugustusGrochau 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      That's what got me to get in here to the comments

    • @michaelbennion3704
      @michaelbennion3704 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      I new it on sight and inedible looked for someone tho back me up. I’m not insane

    • @ThisIsEpic37
      @ThisIsEpic37 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      I KNEW IT

    • @kilo3989
      @kilo3989 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I genuinely can't believe I spotted this ngl 😅 What an amazing add!

  • @Cracks094
    @Cracks094 ปีที่แล้ว +1622

    If one of my friends told me that he secretely used me as a test subject to collect data for a vaguely scientific project about how people "uhmm", i wouldn't be mad, i'd be impressed.

    • @AlumniQuad
      @AlumniQuad ปีที่แล้ว +78

      Additionally, I'm pretty sure the "experimenting on people" doesn't really apply to any purely observational study (that is, one where the "experimenter" doesn't interact with the test "subjects" and there is literally nobody applying treatment combinations).

    • @SynthAir
      @SynthAir ปีที่แล้ว +57

      @@AlumniQuad I too was a bit confused as to why the presenter claimed to be "experimenting on people without their permission." I don't see how an observational study of publicly available data warrants permission from anyone. It also seems he didn't want to name other channels used in his research without permission, even though these are publicly available names of well-known TH-cam creators and are thus public figures. This is not a complaint as it doesn't impact the quality of the video, it just made me curious ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

    • @spaghettiking653
      @spaghettiking653 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@SynthAir Maybe take this idea to its logical conclusion, for example if your captured data was in fact a video recording of their person walking around, and doing stuff... after a certain point it starts to feel more like an invasion of privacy, which would suggest that it essentially is one, even if what you're doing is on a smaller and less noticeable scale.

    • @pikherz
      @pikherz ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Well he's essentially saying that counting their 'ums' was more interesting than the topic of their talk, which is hard to interpret in a positive way and also makes you wonder how much he loves his field of research

    • @acmenipponair
      @acmenipponair ปีที่แล้ว +2

      And I would just ask: "bachelor or master thesis", as in communication science such studies are not uncommon :D

  • @Brandon-oc8lr
    @Brandon-oc8lr ปีที่แล้ว +2354

    "Maybe your definition of a good time might be different" -- Sadly... its not -_-

    •  ปีที่แล้ว +33

      Sadly?

    • @derikWG
      @derikWG ปีที่แล้ว +59

      I've built and run many molecular dynamics simulations out of boredom, just to see what would happen lol

    • @stevengoldfein1591
      @stevengoldfein1591 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      ​@derikWG and I thought my hobbies.....nevermind.😊

    • @garethde-witt6433
      @garethde-witt6433 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Maybe you could study parking trends of cars of the same colour (color if you’re American) as in do people park in areas dictated by cars of same or similar colour/color.

    • @HelPfeffer
      @HelPfeffer ปีที่แล้ว

      X1039

  • @nicksaia856
    @nicksaia856 ปีที่แล้ว +433

    8:15 just realized this area is the end of a level for Super Mario Bros. and the busses are a reference to the "frame-rule" concept for which players will often use busses as an example to explain. Not what I expected here lol

    • @ECGProductions092
      @ECGProductions092 ปีที่แล้ว +48

      That's one of the most amazingly obscure references I've ever seen

    • @tothejazz4828
      @tothejazz4828 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      says more about how the brain works than any other information in the video

    • @redstonewarrior0152
      @redstonewarrior0152 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      I was going to comment this exactly but I am glad I no longer have to type that out.
      I love that detail, but I don't love typing.

    • @quantumzain
      @quantumzain 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@redstonewarrior0152 yet you typed this comment. I guess less word count?

    • @RobertShane
      @RobertShane 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      The busses are also labeled "Route 1-1" which is a reference to World 1-1.

  • @kriterer
    @kriterer ปีที่แล้ว +2205

    Tom Scott 1000% adds ums and other similar pauses to his speeches on purpose. It's something I noticed a long time ago, and I think it's a *huge* part of why he's so successful at communicating technical information to such a general audience.

    • @jama211
      @jama211 ปีที่แล้ว +120

      I don't know if it's on purpose, you'd have to ask him, sometimes people are just like that!

    • @michaw7408
      @michaw7408 ปีที่แล้ว +73

      Wait, what? How would artificial uhms improve someones presentation? I mean, they're just meaningless noise so what's the point? I'd love to hear more about your idea

    • @Pilachio
      @Pilachio ปีที่แล้ว +496

      @@michaw7408 Tom is keen on trying to do videos in one take, if possible. So I think at the very least he doesn't see the occasional "uhm" as disruptive
      When Tom goes "uhm", the audience knows he's going to get to the interesting bits. I think their use in language is to communicate "I am choosing my words, please pay attention". And for experienced speakers, they can prime listeners to pay attention. While inexperienced speakers are inconsistent with it, and might be grating/tiring the listeners attention.

    • @loser-nobody
      @loser-nobody ปีที่แล้ว +102

      ​@@michaw7408 nothing habitual is absolutely meaningless. Why would every human waste energy on something meaningless? You could argue the subjective value of the meaning but to assert 0 value is outright silly. (Well, perhaps you spoke absolutely in effort to incite a corrected response providing you with the answer, which isn't silly after all.)
      Personally though, I get forced to "uhm" a lot more than I innately would during pauses. For example, my father is always seemingly caught off-guard when he hears a silent pause. He will interrupt what I'm about to say, just to question my unfinished thought. (Like, "if you'd just shut up and let me finish!..") If I don't fill that void with a predictable noise, then he will. A simple 'uhm' lets him know I'm still forming the sentence. Whether that's purely a condition of avoiding confusion, through losing some hearing as he ages, is harder to say. It happens with people of all ages though. I believe it's just nurtured/conditioned in your specific environment.
      I'm also quite detailed and long-winded, so I get interrupted consistently the moment I hesitate, by nearly everyone I speak to.
      I agree with other comments as well, 'uhms' can be scripted for emphasis, rhetoric, or other metacommunication.
      In practice, language is rarely literal. People, and therefore language is far too emotional in daily use. Close enough to their intentions, is close enough for most.

    • @xdeathcon
      @xdeathcon ปีที่แล้ว +26

      @michaw7408 if the speaker is attempting to sound more casual, it would make sense to insert a few ums and uhs to make it sound natural and more like a regular conversation. I kind of doubt he would need to do that since going unscripted is likely going to lead to the same result with less effort, though. It would only be necessary for someone who is hyper aware of what they're saying and never ums normally

  • @glenmorrison8080
    @glenmorrison8080 ปีที่แล้ว +2093

    I too am fundamentally interested in finding real-world examples of probability theory. This is a great example, and your "why" section at the end completely mirrors my thoughts on why I'm interested in this kind of thing. Wonderful work.

    • @not_David
      @not_David  ปีที่แล้ว +114

      Thank you! I'm glad that theres someone else out there with the same mindset lol

    • @thatguyalex2835
      @thatguyalex2835 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      Erm, probability theory is probably the most interesting part of mathematics, along with, erm statistics. ;) Poisson distributions look similar to bell curves, which is pretty cool. Seems like our world can be described by mathematics to a great detail.

    • @sumdumbmick
      @sumdumbmick ปีที่แล้ว +1

      so your praise is based purely on the video mirroring your own preconceptions? solipsistic much?

    • @JohnDoe-gc1pm
      @JohnDoe-gc1pm ปีที่แล้ว +3

      ​@not_David you could likely get a control group from recordings of the UK Parliament, Prime Ministers questions, committees and debates have different question styles and lengths.

    • @linkfreemantheplumber2948
      @linkfreemantheplumber2948 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@sumdumbmick Are... are you illiterate?

  • @ltjgambrose
    @ltjgambrose ปีที่แล้ว +736

    The most interesting thing to me about uhm/erm/umm/etc. is that it's such a great example of the schwa.
    The phonetic sound ə ("schwa") is the default sound that humans make. If you just open your mouth and pass air over your vocal chords, you say "ə".
    Because of that it's the most common sound in almost every language. Three of the four most common English words are "the" ("ðə"), "of" ("əv"), and "a" (just "ə"). The first words of most babies are "məmə"/"dədə"/"pəpə".
    When I learned about ə I saw it everywhere. Pronouncing words with schwas in place of other vowels is what "mumbling" is. The pitch that is a schwa for a child is the same as the "e" of a grown man, but our brains just account for that.
    But the coolest thing, to me, is that it's our sound for holding attention. If you were developing morse code or any other form of communication from scratch you would inevitably need to find a way to tell the listener "I'm done talking, it's your turn". In morse code it's ▄ ▄▄▄ ▄ ▄▄▄ ▄ , in radio it's "over", in http it's . In English it's silence, so instead we have a signal that means "I'm still talking, it's not your turn yet", and it's exactly what you would expect it might be.
    əəəəəəəəəəəəə...
    Kind of elegant, really.

    • @babbonataleseivecchiobefan8011
      @babbonataleseivecchiobefan8011 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      To be fair in my languange (italian), the schwa sound isn't very frequent (i believe but i might be so wrong), but it's used like in english to uhm etc.
      Maybe it's because it is frequent in Southern dialects, but my idea is that it's used because it's a neutral sound and places the tongue in the middle of the mouth ready for the next letter. To be fair i Really don't know

    • @luciachayes
      @luciachayes ปีที่แล้ว +54

      This is not the same in most of the world's languages and portraying it as the "default sound" is disingenuous. In *English* it is the most commonly used sound, but that is not persistent across all languages. If you want a more common open vowel, /a/ is much more common in world languages, being attested in 86% of the world's languages (versus the 22% in which /ə/ is used, mostly in European and South Asian languages).

    • @realemolga6306
      @realemolga6306 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      ​@@luciachayes Hi, is your data based on the occurrence of the *phonemes* /a/ and /ə/ (as the use of slashes suggests)? Because [ə] as an allophone is probably way more common than a phoneme in it's own right.

    • @uninhm
      @uninhm ปีที่แล้ว +9

      As a Spanish-speaking person, I can say we don't use schwa for uhming (we don't use schwa at all), we say em, as in EMpathetic. Sometimes without the M, just /e:/. It can also resemble an /ɪ:/ (as in shɪp)

    • @willguggn2
      @willguggn2 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      The Spanish, French, Greek, Japanese, Korean and many, many others probably disagree with you. They don't use schwa for their "uhm"s. A generalization like this seems a bit anglocentric to me.

  • @karlo7w
    @karlo7w ปีที่แล้ว +457

    Before concluding that this is a fundamental part of how human brains work, it'd be cool to see if the results are the same in other languages. ええと in Japanese, 嗯 in chinese, etc. Specifically I think this could be interesting in Japanese because they tend to use a lot more filler words so it might be a cultural thing and the distribution could be different.

    • @not_David
      @not_David  ปีที่แล้ว +148

      Yeah I think thats a very good point. There has been some really interesting discussion in the pinned comment and the community post, but its more about the uhm itself rather than the time between uhms. I would love to find out

    • @usageunit
      @usageunit ปีที่แล้ว +36

      This. So much science studying human behavior tries to draw conclusions from a sample restricted to a single culture, if not an even more restricted subset (e.g. college students) within that single culture. Not that there's no value in that research, but that limitation has to be understood when trying to interpret or apply the results.

    • @NukeCloudstalker
      @NukeCloudstalker ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Culture is downstream from genetics, realistically most cultural/language differences in this regard, will be downstream from the genetics of the speaker.

    • @somethingthatexists4797
      @somethingthatexists4797 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Chinese also has 那个, which gets twitter mad lol

    • @joulesinwatt
      @joulesinwatt ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Very interesting idea. ...

  • @MCMelonslice
    @MCMelonslice ปีที่แล้ว +705

    I'm convinced your story telling technique will go a long way. Thanks for the interesting insight!

    • @not_David
      @not_David  ปีที่แล้ว +65

      thanks so much :) I hope its enough to be able to outweigh the fact that I can't produce videos very quickly haha

    • @LakeWebb
      @LakeWebb ปีที่แล้ว

      HAHA. ARRRRIBA!

  • @Tom_Mos
    @Tom_Mos ปีที่แล้ว +43

    6:40 pop quiz for nerds, attempted answer.
    We would still observe a Poisson process and the new value for lambda = (1 + p)*lambda
    My reasoning is that if you missed UHMMs uniformly, then the process remains a Poisson process. However, the rate = lambda would need to increase based on the probability of missing an UHMM per time period.

    • @theodorhar4767
      @theodorhar4767 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I think it should be lambda_new = (1-p)*lambda, right? I agree it should remain a Poisson process, but I thought of it like each observation can now be written as P(the observation occurred) and P(I saw that observation). P(the observation occurred) is just the old process, and P(I saw it) is 1-P(I missed it).

  • @Me-da-Ghost
    @Me-da-Ghost ปีที่แล้ว +979

    This might sound cliche, but I really thought you were a well-known educational TH-camr with hundreds of thousands of views when I was watching. You are seriously underrated!

    • @not_David
      @not_David  ปีที่แล้ว +124

      thanks so much :) I appriciate it

    • @endscreenguy8260
      @endscreenguy8260 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Same haha

    • @jackfrosterton2530
      @jackfrosterton2530 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      The old " I really thought you were a well-known educational TH-camr with hundreds of thousands of views" trope

    • @willd2609
      @willd2609 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      SAME!

    • @pineapplerindm
      @pineapplerindm ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I found this at ~10k views and thought it had 100k+ views...now it does :)

  • @unvergebeneid
    @unvergebeneid ปีที่แล้ว +1167

    How do you have time to produce such an incredibly polished video _during_ your PhD?!

    • @not_David
      @not_David  ปีที่แล้ว +401

      well each video takes like 3 months to make so...

    • @Lancefh_ENV
      @Lancefh_ENV ปีที่แล้ว +117

      Procrastination is a hell of a drug.

    • @Dorderhan
      @Dorderhan ปีที่แล้ว +47

      ​@@not_David3 months doesn't seem like a lot of time for the effort you put into this!

    • @twist7763
      @twist7763 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@not_David I WISH I could make a video like this in just 3 months, which programs do you use?

    • @reformed_attempt_1
      @reformed_attempt_1 ปีที่แล้ว

      what do you think, if you're doing PhD you can't do anything else?

  • @WatcherontheWeb
    @WatcherontheWeb ปีที่แล้ว +72

    As a military instructor who had to go thru a multi week course, part of which was to learn how to stop using "um" or any other filler word (which you will do when you begin to eliminate "um") where fellow instructors threw objects at our face during a presentation whenever we would use one, I can say I really appreciate this video, and you bringing the self consciousness about "um"ing to the wider world

  • @Kosmicd12
    @Kosmicd12 ปีที่แล้ว +67

    3:07 ??? How is this real life. I was not prepared for that in this video. HOW is the bus framerule analogy in THIS video. That is wild. Cool that you're a Mario speedrunning fan (I assume), though!

    • @The4DPotato
      @The4DPotato ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I thought it was unintentional until I saw the staircase, glad other people noticed

    • @gloweye
      @gloweye ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I expected the math youtubers, not the Mario speedrunner. Wow.

    • @quinn7894
      @quinn7894 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Woah! I just noticed the background was the SMB1 staircase and flag for the first time

    • @bigfongz
      @bigfongz หลายเดือนก่อน

      and the guy at the bus stop is dressed like mario!

  • @pumkinpatchwork
    @pumkinpatchwork ปีที่แล้ว +665

    this is an INCREDIBLY well made. you had no need to put in as much effort as you did for those adorable blender animations, yet you did. holy cow this must have taken so much work but the end result is so impressive

    • @not_David
      @not_David  ปีที่แล้ว +145

      its worth it for the comments like these, thank you :)

    • @pumkinpatchwork
      @pumkinpatchwork ปีที่แล้ว +46

      @@not_David keep up the amazing work!! they look so professional :)

    • @designvatsa8348
      @designvatsa8348 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Exactly what I was thinking all video! I want a master class on visual presentation and animation from the guy!!

    • @idioting
      @idioting 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      exactly, i sticked to see the entire video, absolutely love love that youtube recommended this great channel to me :)

  • @nityarajan9323
    @nityarajan9323 ปีที่แล้ว +56

    aside from the interesting pattern, this is the first time I actually understood what the Poisson distribution represents without just mugging up the formula for an exam and my mind is blown! The beautiful smooth animation and great scripting were the cherry on top, super cool!

  • @TotalTimoTime
    @TotalTimoTime ปีที่แล้ว +192

    I think a significant factor you did not account for during this is the rate of speech for every person. Adjusting for words per minute and seeing what the true frequency in terms of syllables, words and (sub) sentences is, would give much more insight into how humans actually produce their uhmms.
    Additionally using log/log plots for data with a range this small introduces bias in reading the graph. The data can appear much more linear than it actually is simply because in log plots the range of Y values for any given X value that would be appear to be linear to a human eye is greater than the true plot counterpart.

  • @TonyStedge
    @TonyStedge ปีที่แล้ว +117

    Wow, the number of animations and attention to visual story telling is..um..worthy of way more subscribers. Thanks for the interesting content!

  • @AnAngryGranny
    @AnAngryGranny ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I definitely did not expect to run into the Drawfee's Julia LePetit's Bobby Hill face in a place like this, but at 3:45, sure enough!
    My hat is off to you, fellow Drawfee fan

  • @stheno7312
    @stheno7312 ปีที่แล้ว +249

    I love the reference to the Mario 1 frame rule analogy in the bus animation

    • @not_David
      @not_David  ปีที่แล้ว +117

      I was starting to think no one knew the frame rule analogy

    • @artemiskearney8019
      @artemiskearney8019 ปีที่แล้ว +70

      @@not_David You even had the flagpole with the stairs, and the pipe, and a store that looks suspiciously castle-like!

    • @danielkelsosmith
      @danielkelsosmith ปีที่แล้ว +3

      What is the frame rule?

    • @Arakus99
      @Arakus99 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      ​​@@danielkelsosmithIt's a thing in Super Mario Bros speedrunning, basically the game only checks to see if you've got to the end of the level (so it can start loading the next one) every third of a second
      So if you save time but it's not a big enough timesave to arrive for an earlier check, then it doesn't matter, like how if you have to get on a bus at 6pm it doesn't matter if you arrive at the bus stop at 5:35 or 5:50, you'll still reach your destination at the same time, unless you arrive early enough to catch an earlier bus
      (Sorry that was super wordy and overexplainy)

    • @12dash
      @12dash ปีที่แล้ว +32

      @@danielkelsosmith In the first Super Mario game when you touch the flag at the end of the level, the level doesn't end at that exact moment but you need to wait until the next "bus" arrives. The game checks every X frames to see if you have touched it. One consequence of that is that you can touch flags at different frames but you will still get the same time because you needed to wait for the next bus.

  • @SilentEagle2029
    @SilentEagle2029 ปีที่แล้ว +167

    Dude. I am a current grad student in Biostats and this video gave me the first real world application of probability theory that actually makes sense. Awesome video!

    • @not_David
      @not_David  ปีที่แล้ว +32

      these are my favourite kind of comments haha. I'm really really interested in biostats so I hope many to do something in that area at some point in the future.

  • @K3nnyI3
    @K3nnyI3 ปีที่แล้ว +93

    I loved this video. As a PhD candidate myself I see very few people who can clearly and simply communicate information that anyone outside of their field/stem can comprehend. I feel as if anyone even with no math could follow this.
    Also, I'm betting on Neil being the famous physicist. He speaks so well!

  • @skylercloud3077
    @skylercloud3077 ปีที่แล้ว +57

    Surprised no one’s done this, but after hearing about the premise my first thought was recording the ums in this video so apologies, but here:
    Recounting um story:
    0:16 “um”
    0:20 “um”
    0:34 recount friend “ums”
    0:36 “uh” ahaha moment
    0:41 recount “um”
    0:43 “ums”
    0:52 “umming”
    0:56 “uh 2 quick things”
    1:03 “ums”
    1:17 “listened to some people um”
    1:32 “uh” [PhD supervisor joke]
    1:45 “um” [mathing]
    1:50 “ums”
    1:50 “inter-um interval”
    2:37 “ums” [explaining test]
    2:42 “how good speaker ums”
    4:18 “back to listening to people um a bunch”
    4:38 “plot the um-times”
    4:44 “ums” below reference line
    4:50 “ums” above ref line
    4:56 “ums”
    5:19 “ums at a rate of…”
    Explaining Poisson:
    5:26 “um”
    5:45 “exactly 1 um” (1 min window)
    5:53 “only 1 um”
    6:10 “1 um”
    7:03 “interrupted by an um”
    7:04 “ums”
    7:11 “next um”
    7:11 “high rate of ums”
    7:16 “ums”
    8:22 “back to our plot of ums”
    8:23 “ums are distributed”
    8:35 “ums are happening both randomly and”
    [8:47 “like”]

    • @not_David
      @not_David  ปีที่แล้ว +18

      wow.... this is the best video time stamp I've ever seen. I'm uhhh... humbled. (crunching the number right now)

    • @not_David
      @not_David  ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Ok, I've crunched the numbers - the average was 14 seconds per uhmmm, while the variation (or standard deviation) was 17. I'd need to do additional testing to confirm but I would say thats pretty close to being equal (I have one data point in the video with average and variation of 15 and 17 and that was found to be poisson, but thats anecdotal).
      I am pretty suprised that they are so close. That was very interesting and fun (in a very specific sense of the word). Thank you! We need to upvote this comment haha
      Edit: I left a shoutout/thank you in the pinned comment (please let me know if you are uncomfortable with that I can remove it)

  • @finni1081
    @finni1081 ปีที่แล้ว +280

    I am overwhelmed by how polished your animations are, how much detail you put into them, and how awesome they look! The layout, color combinations, typeface and font size, the transitions, just about every frame in the video makes it obvious you put a lot of thought into designing it! Keep it up!

  • @galewallblanco8184
    @galewallblanco8184 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    This channel is amazing, it uses mundane and simple concrete ways to apply data science and math, in a fun way without throwing away all the math involved,
    absolutely lovely, and it already gave me a fuckton of ideas on how I can visualize high dimensional data! thank you so much :D

  • @lagomoof
    @lagomoof ปีที่แล้ว +127

    A friend's story, which I'll paraphrase: "One time, many many years ago, during a lecture, a friend drew my attention to a tally in his margin. He would add a tally mark every so often, apparently at random, and was up in the hundreds. The realisation that he was tallying the hesitative noises made by the prof. was, for numerous reasons, absolutely devastating."

    • @xdeathcon
      @xdeathcon ปีที่แล้ว +8

      My technical writing professor would do this to us when we presented, so I kind of find it interesting to see it done to a prof

  • @magi4k
    @magi4k ปีที่แล้ว +34

    I did not expect to to grab a statistical concept that quick. This video is highly educational and reflect the way statistics should be taught. Love it !!

  • @dylaann
    @dylaann ปีที่แล้ว +33

    I loved the small Super Mario Bros. speedrunning easter egg when you were explaining the bus averages. I thought it was a nod when you didn't just call it a bus to start with but seeing the staircase and flag made me smile :)

  • @PanEtRosa
    @PanEtRosa ปีที่แล้ว +100

    I'm so in love with how much pattern-finding there is in the world right now. the Internet is so full of "hey, you know what I just noticed" lately!

    • @theboxygenie
      @theboxygenie ปีที่แล้ว +11

      pattern-finding is a very human instinct

    • @Mikeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
      @Mikeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I wish i had the list of those videos you mention

    • @sleepynoodles6425
      @sleepynoodles6425 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Make a playlist and share it with us :)

  • @not_David
    @not_David  ปีที่แล้ว +105

    [*Question primarily for non-English-as-a-first-language speakers!*]
    (EDIT) but first - real quick - thank you so much for all the amazing comments. I try to reply to them but there are so many now its really hard to keep up. I'm really not sure where all of a sudden people are coming from and its a bit overwhelming but I approciate it! Thank you again!
    (EDIT 2): I havn't had a chance to respond to all the answers in this discussion but learning all the different ways people uhmm in different languages has been fascinating, thank you!
    (EDIT 3): Special thanks to @skylercloud3077 (Skyler Cloud) for sitting down and time stamping all the uhmms in this video. The result was a average of 14 seconds with a variation of 17 seconds, so I'd say fairly poisson though more tests would need to be done to confirm. If you see their comment give it a big thumbs up.
    The question:
    I asked this in a community post but I didn't I didn't appriciate just how different UHMMing (or more generally `filler words') can be across languages and cultures. So 2 questions:
    1) What is a common filler word/sound in your language?
    2) If you speak more than one language, do you also switch how you UHMMM when you switch languages? (this is the one im really interested in).
    For me - english is not my first language however my two languages have essentially merged into one frankenstein language so I can't really test this on myself.

    • @boio_
      @boio_ ปีที่แล้ว +53

      At least for Chilean Spanish speakers I've heard and dealt losts of "Ehhhhhh"

    • @philip2205
      @philip2205 ปีที่แล้ว +49

      1) In Swedish people say "ö".
      2) When speaking English, I still use "ö".
      To comment on what @fugo said: Young people in Sweden often code-switch or think in English. So much so that it's gotten its own word, "svengelska" ("Swenglish"). But I've never experienced the equivalent of what Fugo is saying-that is to say, people my age saying "uhm" instead of "ö". A more relevant example of Swenglish is saying "två fåglar med en sten", ("two birds with one stone"), instead of "två flugor i en smäll", ("two flies in one blow").
      To expand on this: Speaking Swenglish is often viewed as something negative. There are loads of "letters to the editor"-"insändare" if you want to look them up-about this. So naturally, I think saying "Uhm" instead of "ö" would be getting coverage. However, I've never even heard of it, not from DN or Aftonbladet, Expressen or Göteborgs-Posten. This also points at people not saying "uhm" instead of "ö".
      If it doesn't happen in Swedish, I wonder why it happens in Turkish. Although I think the sample size is way too small to draw a conclusion from our comments.

    • @Napert
      @Napert ปีที่แล้ว +14

      eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

    • @arnie0199
      @arnie0199 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      1) Not quite what you asked but I'm British and use "errrr" when speaking English
      2) And yes I switch to "hmm" or "uhmm" when speaking my native Indian language Malayalam

    • @AderionsVids
      @AderionsVids ปีที่แล้ว +24

      1. In German we use „ähhh“(aehh I guess) or a bit more subdued „mhhh“ as a thinking sound
      2. I use Mhhh in English as well… maybe Ähh too but I’m not sure about that.

  • @-lemoongrass-
    @-lemoongrass- ปีที่แล้ว +9

    To be honest I didn’t understand half of what you said here, but even if I didn’t understand most of it you made it incredibly interesting, I watched the whole video and learned a lot! Thanks, definitely subscribing

  • @Milark
    @Milark ปีที่แล้ว +151

    holy shit, how does this channel only have 10k subs??? This is some of the highest quality content ive seen in a while. The animations, the graphic design, the voice over and the information itself are all incredibly well presented.

    • @NunoSalvaterra
      @NunoSalvaterra ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Thank you for this comment. It allowed me to understand that this channel doubled in followers in just over a week.

    • @tumblingartist
      @tumblingartist ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Right! I love the style of presentation- it’s very clear and engaging

    • @Milark
      @Milark ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@NunoSalvaterra tripled by now

    • @brokenrecord3523
      @brokenrecord3523 ปีที่แล้ว

      Really? Have you met many people? I live in a rural (please make assumptions) area and I can tell you with 100% certainty that EVERYONE I know would much rather see someone's balls smashed (or even their own) than watch a video with math.

  • @GodsOfGaming
    @GodsOfGaming ปีที่แล้ว +197

    The bus joke was top tier. Heard "4 wheeled vehicle of transportation" and I am so glad I got exactly what I expected.

    • @agar322
      @agar322 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      I watched this video just after watching one about SMB1 so it made me pause for a second

    • @casperdewith
      @casperdewith ปีที่แล้ว +23

      @@agar322 Just like the game pauses for a second, or more precisely, until the next bus arrives. Have I already told you to imagine a bus?

    • @kevinanselmo1933
      @kevinanselmo1933 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Lmao even the brick stairs and the flag were the same during the example lol. 21 frames!

    • @amberkatanimations6585
      @amberkatanimations6585 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Finally, someone else who noticed the mario speedrunning analogy! I thought it was just me, being part of many weird and niche communities.

    • @h3corptempbutevadinganass
      @h3corptempbutevadinganass ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Wtffff..... :/ thought I was alone........... too strange to live, too weird to die😂😂😂

  • @wuwubean
    @wuwubean ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I love that you put Mario level parts in the background of the bus analogy. A super specific reference but it made me smile.

  • @hermanfalkum
    @hermanfalkum ปีที่แล้ว +119

    I’m halfway through and i just have to say the animation is absolutely stunning. i’m having a hard time believing you’re a stem student and have this level of skill within animation. You haven’t credited anyone for help on the animation so i’m inclined to think you did it yourself, which to me is mind blowing, not even considering the amazing information the video contains

    • @not_David
      @not_David  ปีที่แล้ว +70

      I used to be an arts student prior to going into physics and math so I think some of that just carried over. I also just watch a lot of art youtube (arguably more than science youtube)

    • @Pulstar232
      @Pulstar232 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@not_David would you recommend and videos, channels or software for doing this sort of animation? it's really uh, punchy I guess is the term but I don't quite think it is? It just really catches my eye and is quite nice and easy to follow.

    • @not_David
      @not_David  ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@Pulstar232 I don't have any particular channels I watch for that specifically, or rather if there was a video I watched regarding it, it was just from googling and watching the first thing that came up. Its really just about taking cues from other media. For example, I really like watching Marques Brownlee (akak. MKBHD) because his team makes some really smooth animations and transitions, and then it was just a matter of sitting down and really working with animation curves until it felt right (animation curves are the things that set the timing of an animation and they are typically found in most animation software I believe, it is not a blender thing). But it can be anything - I actually find commericals during ads to be extremely good for inspiration for eye catching colors/movement/etc.
      Keep in mind a lot of it is practice and refinment as well. If you watch my earlier videos (especially my first) you'll see the animation is very stiff. But you have to start somewhere and get the basics down and then work up. If you watched my videos in order my hope would be you progressively see an increase in smoothness or punchiness as I learned to incorperate those higher-order things on top of the basics as i went along.

    • @bobb.boberson4437
      @bobb.boberson4437 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@not_David so it WAS a drawfee reference I saw at 3:49! I thought Julia's Bobby Hill had just invaded my brain and was haunting me across the internet.

  • @lennarth.6214
    @lennarth.6214 ปีที่แล้ว +76

    Haven't seen your channel before but instantly subbed. Stunning visuals and a very funny yet interesting topic

    • @not_David
      @not_David  ปีที่แล้ว +15

      aw shucks, thanks a bunch :)

  • @Kickiusz
    @Kickiusz ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I would love to see uhmming patterns compared between neurodivergent and neuronirmative people. Whether there is an observable difference or not, I feel like this could help us all better understand each other.

    • @lizwrites2463
      @lizwrites2463 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      yeah, that’d be interesting. I feel like neurodivergent people sometimes have anti-uhmming superpowers

    • @aroaceautistic
      @aroaceautistic 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@lizwrites2463not me lol

    • @TonyMaynard-SD
      @TonyMaynard-SD 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      that would be interesting!

  • @jaydetelford9922
    @jaydetelford9922 ปีที่แล้ว +84

    I can't wait to see your channel grow, it's clear that you put a lot of effort into this video and it's honestly the most entertaining educational video I've watched recently!

  • @WillowWonder
    @WillowWonder ปีที่แล้ว +32

    “dumb” science is exactly what we need!! how much information might we never know because the question to learn it will never be asked? keep up the unique work ❤

  • @nathanielkershner5904
    @nathanielkershner5904 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    i love how when you started talking about "imagine a bus stop" there were mario props in the background, which looked like the end of a level. very subtle. i approve.

  • @xMxM9xSx
    @xMxM9xSx ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I think you've missed 2 pretty interesting trends - 1) the structured talks from experienced educators generally tended towards platooning (above the line) and 2) when you zoomed into the data at the end, both the QnA and control groups tended towards ideal/low variance random (below the line).
    My interpretation is this: the control and QnA chats represent pretty periodic Uhms, being drawn truly randomly. However, the structured talks get platoons of uhms because they "lose their groove" during a talk. Once you say uhm once in a practiced speech, you start spilling over yourself for a while until you get it back.

    • @not_David
      @not_David  ปีที่แล้ว +9

      That was my idea for the practiced part as well. The QnA part being periodic is an interesting idea. I do genuinely wish I had more data for that segment so I could test those ideas. There is a ... game (for lack of a better word) ... called `powerpoint karaoke' where people try to make presentations on the fly to a set of random slides. I would love to collect uhmms during that especially for the professional presenters, but obviously this is much harder to do set up.

  • @elmatichos
    @elmatichos ปีที่แล้ว +94

    I love the Julia from Drawfee's sun 😊 I appreciate your presentation, it's fun and professional at the same time, not making anybody feel babysat or left behind 🧡

    • @MrSupahlovah
      @MrSupahlovah ปีที่แล้ว +25

      i was not expecting bobby hill in my science video but i'm not displeased

    • @cubisttubist
      @cubisttubist ปีที่แล้ว +17

      OMG, thank you I thought I was hallucinating that cursed face a second! I rewatched that video yesterday too

    • @burneyarts
      @burneyarts ปีที่แล้ว +13

      I saw him too!!!

    • @Hohum37
      @Hohum37 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I heard Jacob's voice in my mind "Is that Bobby Hill? NO!"

    • @unfairdani
      @unfairdani ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Omg, I JUMPED when I saw the bobby hill stare, this thing gave me flashbacks

  • @GroovingPict
    @GroovingPict ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Arrivals at a grocery store is hardly random and independent, since many people for example shop on their way home from work, and there are certain times that are more common "end of work" times than others. They dont consciously coordinate with eachother, but they are indeed coordinated with eachother en mass through external forces, such as having the same work hours.

    • @not_David
      @not_David  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This is correct. The statement I gave is a gross oversimplification of the real use of poisson analysis of coustomer arrivals (for example, you'd probably actually have a poisson rate for each day of the week) as there are external "forces" that make it so that its not always poisson. However, I would very much argue that you are giving an exception rather than a rule (at least, from personal experience). The majority of the day is not like that.
      In general, almost no every-day phenomena is so simple so as to be explained by one thing, and my goal with the analogy was to give something that is reasonably poisson for the sake of teaching to a more general audience(as evidenced by the fact that poisson analysis is in fact used in this setting). In other words - if we had to place it somewhere on the specturm of "random and independent" to "external common driver" I feel like it would be closer to the former than the latter (though this is a guess on my part, I'd need to do more analysis to show it).

  • @buckcherry2564
    @buckcherry2564 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    This reminds me of an experiment I always wanted to see done (maybe it has and I just havent looked into it). Have random people "push this button in a random pattern for 30sec" and see how similar those patterns are. I have a feeling, from loose observation, that there will be similarities (like a quick series of 3 after a longer pause) and only a few people will wail on it the whole time or hit it once and sit back feeling clever.

    • @emilyrln
      @emilyrln ปีที่แล้ว +3

      That would be fun! I'd be tempted to push it at regular intervals and then claim that this was part of an infinite random sequence that only appears regular in isolation.

  • @sailibertine
    @sailibertine ปีที่แล้ว +16

    The animation is insane. The amount of effort you put in this simple video is awe inspiring

  • @projectartichoke
    @projectartichoke ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video. It illustrates the imperative to be able to recognize our assumptions so that we can challenge them. I love that you say science is about asking questions, and it shows when you ask questions about the questions.

  • @redblacktech
    @redblacktech ปีที่แล้ว +293

    Well now I'm curious about "meta-uhmmm", which I am now defining as deliberately stated "uhmmm"s.
    I appreciate that you took the time to do this analysis even though you had no goal in your original boredom. You never know what you don't know, so who knows what ideas you've formed while doing this video or what ideas you've inspired in others.
    Awesome video as usual!

    • @not_David
      @not_David  ปีที่แล้ว +78

      Theres this funny scene in a `review' of Doom by Turbobutton where hes recalling a story about stopping into a small store or gas station or something to use the bathroom, and he doesnt want to be awkward about it so he says `uhmm' and he comments in the story about using the `uhmmm' to make himself seem more human relatable to the cashiers, and I couldn't stop thinking about that scene every time I wrote in a `scripted' or `meta' uhmmm haha.
      Thanks as always :)

    • @RCHobbyist463
      @RCHobbyist463 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      I like that term meta-uhmm. I don't think anyone accidently uses an uhmm in writing yet you still see it anyways.

    • @K9mathematic
      @K9mathematic ปีที่แล้ว +16

      I also really like the meta-uhm. I spent a LOT of my schoolage life speaking in public (variety of reasons). Around high school sophomore year, I found myself intentionally adding "uhh" and "uhm" into my speech at times. A good friend noticed this and pointed it out and it's stuck with me as something I notice ever since. I do it around people I don't know as well and in tense situations. I assume it's to make myself appear more fallible or relatable? Not entirely sure.
      I blame high school debate xD

    • @thejswaroop5230
      @thejswaroop5230 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Uhmmmm....it depends
      (Uhmm intended)

    • @brandondegraaf
      @brandondegraaf ปีที่แล้ว +1

      There are hilarious examples of people trolling phone scammers hard by uuuuhm-ing almost the entire conversation. Winds the scammers well up. A skilled meta-uhmer can find the perfect balance between baiting the scammer along while also wasting far too much of their time.

  • @att6844
    @att6844 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    I loved the reference to the frame rule explanation haha. Absolutely wonderful video

    • @rednation245
      @rednation245 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      yes, we appreciate the darbian reference :)

  • @amajiki8388
    @amajiki8388 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    this is very fascinating, your research really captivated me and i can't wait to watch more of your videos.
    i did not expect to watch this fully, lol

  • @danielstandford4930
    @danielstandford4930 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    This is a very informative, well-made the video. My favourite part of the graphics was at 9:23 . Whoever made the animations has a clear understanding of animation, design, and presenting data. The script for the video is very understandable and interesting to listen to. I'd like to send my blessings to everyone who worked on this project.

    • @not_David
      @not_David  ปีที่แล้ว +25

      Thank you! "everyone who worked on this project" is just me though lol, i will pass on your compliments to myself.

    • @kj_H65f
      @kj_H65f ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The bus stop being a low key mario end flag was a great touch

  • @Herweins
    @Herweins ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I was surprised to see this level of quality from this small of a channel.
    Keep it up!

  • @dakotaedmonds6612
    @dakotaedmonds6612 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The face on that sun was Julia's drawing of Bobby Hill from that Drawfee episode!!!!
    3:46

  • @jellytabby2135
    @jellytabby2135 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I love it when youtube recommends another soothing, thoroughly researched and very pleasant science video to me. 😌

  • @nackums
    @nackums ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Loved the content, delivery style, and visuals. As a fellow stem phd, I wish I could just award you the degree already. It's videos like this that help me back off from the edge of being completely disillusioned with science. Good luck with everything :)

    • @not_David
      @not_David  ปีที่แล้ว +4

      this comment means a lot to me haha thank you

  • @ModernSysiphus
    @ModernSysiphus 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Dude I had this same idea in middle school when I was bored in class. I thought about how everyone seems to umm for the same amount of time but forgot about it before I could test anything on my unsuspecting friends and family. I’m glad that there are other people out there that think about this kind of stuff.

  • @awillingham
    @awillingham ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I would love to see an experiment that takes a transcript, does clustering to find groups of uhms (platoons), then does sentiment analysis/some sort of NLP to find out if there are commonalities in those clusters!

  • @AdamGaffney96
    @AdamGaffney96 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I don't know if anyone else has this exact experience, but I find when editing a video where you just have a stream of consciousness, you really realise how consistently and frequently you say "ummm".

  • @ferbhentaireviews7415
    @ferbhentaireviews7415 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    this video give me new perspective thank you pal

  • @benjaminhalbeisen9175
    @benjaminhalbeisen9175 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Inter-ummm-interval is both the metric and a perfect example. Love it!

    • @templetonf
      @templetonf ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Missed opportunity to call it the "inter-umm-interim," though

  • @jacksonsmith2955
    @jacksonsmith2955 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I didn't notice the view count or subscriber count on this channel when it popped up and just clicked on it because the title intrigued me, and I was shocked they're both below 100k! The writing and content are great, but the visuals in particular really stuck out to me as exceptional. It often feels like people get carried away with 3D graphics, making them feel distracting and busy (at least to me), but I think you used them the perfect amount to accentuate your story. I like the notebook aesthetic too! Really well constructed video all around :) Always a happy day when I find a new math channel to subscribe to. Keep up the good work!

    • @not_David
      @not_David  ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Thanks so much, those are very kind words :) The animations make the videos a long time to produce but comments like this make it worth it haha

    •  ปีที่แล้ว

      Same happened to me, I thought this was another 100+k science channel I hadn't heard before (that happens surprisingly often). Good job!

  • @kelkelkasaurus653
    @kelkelkasaurus653 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Watched this on a whim when it came up in my recs. Enjoyed the Silly Little Mini Study + stats primer and I feel like my parents would be proud of you if they knew you
    (dad's a particle physicist and professor, and mum also was a particle physicist before pivoting careers to do more stats, computational mathematical modelling, and teaching, and does all kinds of silly mini-studies like this for fun on top of her regular work)

  • @Donagalthegamer
    @Donagalthegamer ปีที่แล้ว +5

    If my life had taken a different path, and I'd ended up being the academic I'd originally intended to be, this is the sort of phenomena I would wish to be observing, where the seeming random indifference of the universe becomes a little more clear. Excellent work

  • @BabaTova
    @BabaTova ปีที่แล้ว +37

    I've had a lecturer, which was a relatively young guy, who'd never say "ummmm", he would talk constantly for an hour and a half, one of the funniest people I've ever had the pleasure of encountering

  • @TheLeftistCooks
    @TheLeftistCooks ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is delightful, the craftsmanship of your videos and research, and the passion in science, are all on full display. You should be very proud.

    • @not_David
      @not_David  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you for the really kind words :) Made my day haha

  • @Flippy9979
    @Flippy9979 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Holy crap how is this channel not bigger yet this video is actually amazing

    • @not_David
      @not_David  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      haha thank you :) glad you liked it!

  • @bennettflynn5278
    @bennettflynn5278 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I had an elderly German professor in college who took a point off every time you used a thinking word he said “if you notice I never use a thinking word, because thinking words illustrate a lack of confidence. I have the confidence you all want to hear me finish my thought and I expect you to have that same confidence in yourself”

    • @scifisyko
      @scifisyko ปีที่แล้ว +42

      It can be a good notion but it is also EXTREMELY boomer to equate use of filler words with lack of confidence.

    • @martinhawes5647
      @martinhawes5647 ปีที่แล้ว

      It’s just a perception that is quite natural.
      Some people in an audience are going to have that perception, so it is better to reduce your number of umms to be perceived as more confident.

  • @j_station
    @j_station ปีที่แล้ว +2

    this video is really fascinating and the presentation is so visually appealing and polished but oh my god the drawfee bobby hill face sun was such a jump scare why is he following me

    • @not_David
      @not_David  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      its okey dad

  • @elliotmarks06
    @elliotmarks06 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The animations on this video are super cool! Great video, amazing execution!

  • @3kxi761
    @3kxi761 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    3:50 is that a julia drawfee lepetit bobby hill or do mine eyes deceive me

  • @JellyWaltzov
    @JellyWaltzov 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I just want to note these animations were INCREDIBLE. so well made, and so much attention to detail. I don't know anything about animation and I don't usually notice these things. This video made me notice.

  • @cameios
    @cameios ปีที่แล้ว +11

    15:34 I sense a fellow drawfee fan 😏
    Also I really liked your video! My theatre teacher back in middle school taught me to stop saying um when speaking but since it’s been quite a while since then I wonder where I place on the chart now 🤔

    • @not_David
      @not_David  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      you should test it haha I'd love to know!

  • @darkstar2874
    @darkstar2874 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    3:50 I will never escape *him.* It’s not okay, Dayud. 😂

    • @haydenseibert9303
      @haydenseibert9303 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Not Bobby's face will haunt me forever. Weirdly thrilled to see him here tho.

  • @set-tes4316
    @set-tes4316 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    In french we don't use "um" so much instead a lot of people either buffer their brain with silence or, if they re not experienced speaker, they will use precise words, mainly "donc", "en fait","du coup".
    Those are very effective if you use them correctly but using them too much gives you a very clear insight on confidence level (either regarding the subject or speaking ability) or distractibility.
    Deciding which of those is determined with the context.
    Having a good mastery of silence is better but having a larger array of stereotypical contextual words/phrases on top of silence mastery is very effective to use on top of silence.
    To me it is not a matter of what the precise buffer tool is or the rate at which you use it. It is how you use them. People who like silence but go blank randomly as they're speaking won't be necessarly better than a donc/du coup addict.
    I would say you need to train and wire your brain in a way that makes use of the automatic nature of those instances but use contextual clues on which of those to use, introducing variety so that someone wouldn't easily pick out a single one you use too much while keeping optimal flow

    • @not_David
      @not_David  หลายเดือนก่อน

      I think you've triggered a memory from my french classes where the teacher kept saying something that I think was "donc" and I remember being very confused. That's wild to me if that's what it was all these years later.

    • @set-tes4316
      @set-tes4316 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@not_David It isn't that far fetched I think your memory is correct on that one

  • @j3011
    @j3011 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This reminds me of a story of a public speaking class where they were very specifically training the participants to avoid "uhm"s by blowing an air horn every time they "uhm"ed in a presentation. The point was to learn to project confidence and professionalism so uhm that's pretty cool

  • @mooshiros7053
    @mooshiros7053 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    3:20 I'm not sure what you mean by this, the answer is obviously that you must wait exactly 21 frames between buses

  • @ScriptCoded
    @ScriptCoded ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This was an incredibly well produced and informative video. Im impressed! Well done!

  • @adrianbik3366
    @adrianbik3366 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This video was sooo pleasant to watch. With this level of effort and storytelling, I'm sure your channel will blow up sooner or later.
    I subscribed without a second thought, especially because you didn't tell us to do it at the end of the video 😊

    • @not_David
      @not_David  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      thank you :) I did put a small (in text) please consider subscribing but i hope it was not obnoxious. I was worried about it since ive never put a prompt like that in a video and im not a huge fan of those kinds of things

  • @ck_cal
    @ck_cal ปีที่แล้ว +43

    Another absolutely lovely video! Today is the first time I hear about Poisson, but it was very interesting to learn more about it, especially with an example like the frequency of "uhmm"ing
    Which is a great topic in my opinion! If we didn't ask questions about silly little things in life we would miss out on interesting answers like this one, and I'm a firm believer in the importance of curiosity and wonder in the mundane!
    The quality is amazing as always, and the Mario reference in the bus section was super fun to see!

  • @WadaMalone
    @WadaMalone ปีที่แล้ว

    I remember as a kid in the 80's and early 90's, searching for things i wanted to watch. It's both fascinating and scary how these days, things i want to watch find me. Instant subscribe

  • @eternal2769
    @eternal2769 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    14:54 I don't understand how I managed to catch this but this is truly a bizarre option for background music.

  • @Me-0063
    @Me-0063 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Loved this video. Genuinely hope you grow more in the future because both you and the people deserve it. I would recommended adding more and more accurate tags, but Im no professional so I might be wrong…

    • @not_David
      @not_David  ปีที่แล้ว

      Someone else mentioned this as well and I genuinely thought about it for so long but I couldn't figure out what would be accurate. If you have any recommendations I'm 100% open to them, I had no clue haha

  • @lander3673
    @lander3673 ปีที่แล้ว

    For years during work meetings I would notice anything the speaker did repeatedly. Ums was the most common. I can't not hear the ums now. Happy to find someone else who was fascinated by this. Great video

  • @FaensOldemor
    @FaensOldemor ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Im willing to bet that the non-ummer referred to at 13:47 is Brian Cox.

    • @KingAdamXVII
      @KingAdamXVII 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I just watched a interview of him and he did “um” very rarely. But then there was one section of it where he was a bit more flustered maybe and he rapid fired about 10 ums in 10 seconds. So, maybe, depending on the sample used.
      My first thought was Stephen Hawking so 🤷

    • @truekingoferebor5676
      @truekingoferebor5676 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I immediately thought of Neil Degrasse Tyson

  • @dillonhitt
    @dillonhitt ปีที่แล้ว +6

    got jumpscared by the jojo opening background music at around 15:00 lmao

  • @kikukikuu
    @kikukikuu ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I studied the use of English language for a bit and was naturally gravitated to your video to which i throughly enjoyed, i was not expecting the jojo op at the end! Didn't know where it was coming from at first until I realised it was from your video haha

  • @amberkatanimations6585
    @amberkatanimations6585 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I love the way you explain stuff! Also the mario speedrunning references are really clever. I haven't seen any good references to it before.

  • @JuliaCSchedler
    @JuliaCSchedler ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This is awesome! The cluster of infrequent "uhmm"-ers is a nice example of overdispersion. So, they may not be Poisson, but maybe they are quasi-Poisson :-) That could be something to explore! Maybe too math-heavy though?
    It's not easy to work in math when your target audience includes people who have disliked probability in the past-- I think you did a nice job. Also, your video follows most of the American Statistical Association's GAISE recommendations that would apply to a TH-cam video! Since you focus mostly on one variable (uhmm count), I wouldn't say it "gives students experience with multivariable thinking" (the Q/A breakout sort of gets at this-- second variable is "whether or not the um happened during a Q/A", but it seems like that maybe came from a different data set?)
    On the multivariable note, here's one idea for what to do with the data, though it would require more work since it involves collecting more data: it would be interesting to explore Poisson regression where your response variable is the uhm count and the explanatory variable(s) could be anything that might affect someone's propensity to uhm. Maybe audience size, percentage of empty chairs, total hours spent public speaking (or a proxy, like for youtubers maybe their previous video count or total run time).
    I would also be curious if other filler words ("so", "like") give us the Poisson distribution? Those would be a bit harder to quantify I assume since "uhmm" is not a word but "so" can be a planned part of a sentence ("the points are distributed like so" vs. "So, if we look at the distribution..." could just be "If we look at the distribution"...I do that one a lot 😅). If you're able to get the data you could consider a marked point pattern in time, where the mark is the specific filler word used.
    Thanks so much for making this video!!

    • @not_David
      @not_David  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      This is such an awesome comment, thank you for taking the time to write it! I have never heard of the American Statistical Association's GAISE guidelines but I just looked it up and I'm super excited to sift through it.
      And pretty much everything else you wrote I would also be super interested in looking at if I ever revisited this topic one day (or if anyone wants to do a proper research of this and send me the results that'd also be nice).
      Thank you again for the kind words and the GAISE recommendation :)

    • @LakeWebb
      @LakeWebb ปีที่แล้ว

      🌜💞🌛
      mines-mind
      HearT•heARTs

  • @4lkali
    @4lkali ปีที่แล้ว

    this is literally the best video ive ever seen, the animations, the topic, the metaphor with the buses, GOODNESS. its awesome

    • @not_David
      @not_David  ปีที่แล้ว

      high praise, thank you :)

  • @jerrykohmygod
    @jerrykohmygod ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Wow what an inspirational and fantastic video. Man, you are so good at what you do and I wish I can be like you one day. Your animations, 3D and 2D. Your knowledge on stats. The way you communicate. It’s all so good. I’m doing my Masters in linguistics and did some filled pauses (um and uh) so you can imagine how happy I am! I also do AE animations but so I can see your effort and art. You earned yourself a well-deserved sub. Thank you!

    • @not_David
      @not_David  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you for the kind words :) I only had the time to take one linguistics course during my undergrad but it was one of my favourites, so I am low-key jealous of your masters haha

    • @LakeWebb
      @LakeWebb ปีที่แล้ว

      Me2

  • @nemo-x
    @nemo-x ปีที่แล้ว +7

    15:15 Science happens not only with supercomputers and expensive equipment but also when you experiment on people without their permission. Got it.

  • @cawareyoudoin7379
    @cawareyoudoin7379 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    TH-cam has been recommending me this video for about a month now, and I finally caved in and watched it. And damn you algorithm, you were right once again, I did very much enjoy it.

  • @timbabb2508
    @timbabb2508 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I predict this channel will eventually have 1M subscribers. The quality is off the charts.

  • @dancoroian1
    @dancoroian1 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Great video, right on par with the type of creators I'm sure you look up to! You've won my sub 😁

  • @silibop
    @silibop ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The framerule reference was amazing; also amazing video but that was probably my favorite part

  • @KynneloVyskenon
    @KynneloVyskenon ปีที่แล้ว +5

    5:08 undertale? you got good taste