You actually convinced me to get Sonarworks and saved me a lot of money! I do have a question: in your video, under the Translation Check options, you have a choice of different studio monitors and headphones. I only have the cars, tablets, tv's and smartphones. I can't find an option to add these monitors and headphones or buy them or something. How did you get them? Or are they part of a separate bundle or something?
I've adopted a two plugin solution for this, and IMO it works really well. For the headphone calibration, there is the highly underrated ToneBoosters Morphit - for 29EUR it has a huge range of headphone models, you can choose what target curve to correct to, and you can simulate other headphone models. And you can demo it for basically as long as you need with full functionality. I highly recommend checking this out. I then follow that with dearVR Monitor. I've also tried Hornet VHS, and it's not as good as either of those two at either calibration or room emulation.
I am a SoundID guy and plan on getting the virtual monitoring on payday. Was considering the Slate Digital headphones, but I think I’ll just stick to what I got. Great video, thanks!
I can not believe Real headphones 2.0 was not mentioned. I own Vsx, Sonarwork, & real phones 2.0. I will give my overall vote to Realphones 2.0 as a slight winner over Vsx. I use my AKG 702 cans with both softwares.
Just switched from my long time and trusted hd650’s and tested the NDH 30 along with the 490 pro. Both sets are good step up from my hd650 imo, but I gave the edge to 490 with slightly better sound stage and bass extension. It came with DearVR mix too and have to agree that the rooms are excellent. More convincing than the SoundID. I found the eq correction quite similar for the 490 in both softwares. Haven’t tried the 650 with DearVr but will have a listen to see if it is brighter as you say. So glad I didn’t bother with VSX though. Great video 👍
Thanks for this comment! I recently got some 490s and didn't notice the voucher in the box for DearVR!!! I've got it now tho!! I must learn to savour the unboxing process more and go through all of the contents. haha
@@officialdiomer I used it for a bit, and it was pretty good. I just used the free/included rooms and just trusted the plugin and was able to pump out some decent mixes. I recently got some Adam T7V monitors and have been mixing on those ever since. To the credit of the 490s and Dear VR, my mixes haven’t really changed all that much since mixing on monitors.
Thank you for this - very interesting! I own Sonarworks SoundID - and it's my prefered headphone compensation. For a virtual room, I'm using DearVR Monitor. But now I wonder if it would make any sense to buy the virtual monitoring from Sonarworks? I've compared them, and I'm very unsure. DearVR has much more possibilties for adjustments, but might sound a bit more synthetic than the simple SoundID solution? But maybe I'm biased now, because both tools in one place (and with a system-wide option) would be nice too. (For Dolby Atmos experiments, I own APL Virtuoso 2. But I can't say that I love it so far. Especially not for stereo).
I mix on audio technica ath-m50x with the Sonarworks software and heard about the VSX and am considering them especially because my current headphones have no low end
Hi, thx for these reviews. My question is: I have a pair of open headphones, and for mic recording, I may eventually need a closed one in the long term to avoid sound bleeding (I guess that's the term). In that case, since probably the VSX is not perfect but still better than mixing on my HD599, do you think it is a good deal? Or would you still opt for a better pair of headphones + software for the same price?
Many thanks, yes I would certainly advise other headphones if you need closed back. The value is just so much better with beyerdynamic/sennheiser etc as most of the cost of VSX is for the software 👍🏻
The SonarWorks ReferenceID VST did not behave particularly well on my system. It crashed in Steinberg Wavelab Pro, Crashed in Ableton Live 10. It behaved better in J-River Media Center but it still had stability problems. I'm not a fan of having room correction in software that runs on a PC. It can be highly dependent on you source file. It might work at 24bit/48KHz and be a total crash fest at 24bit/192KHz. The Slate VSX software works the best for me and unlike you I appreciate what it does. It is pretty stable up to 24bit/192KHz. For studio monitors I much prefer the IK Multimedia ARC system.
Fair enough, yeah agreed, workflow issues often steer us in a particular direction with these things 😄I really wanted to love vsx (I really tried!) but in the end I couldn’t live with those headphones. Incidentally, did you see my Neumann ndh30 review? Worth a watch for sure 👍🏻
Was gonna get slate but might go back to my original thought and get the Bd 990 pro or 900 pro x.. any thoughts on those two BD ones.. id want to pair em with sonarworks
I've got Sonarworks (with calibrated headphones) feeding into dSONIQ Realphones. I wonder whether something similar could be done feeding Sonarworks into DearVR MIX...
I do both that and use SoundID room sims. I think it works really well, but you have to really figure which of the simulations in Realphones can be used. Some have a rather imbalanced bass response that can be quite distracting. Music Studio sounds good though. But the virtual monitoring in Reference is really good already.
![SoundID Reference Virtual Monitoring OUT NOW! All You Need To Know [FULL DEMO + FREE TRIAL]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/itG1Mgexv_0/mqdefault.jpg)
Enjoy guys, let me know your thoughts 👇🏻
You actually convinced me to get Sonarworks and saved me a lot of money! I do have a question: in your video, under the Translation Check options, you have a choice of different studio monitors and headphones. I only have the cars, tablets, tv's and smartphones. I can't find an option to add these monitors and headphones or buy them or something. How did you get them? Or are they part of a separate bundle or something?
I've adopted a two plugin solution for this, and IMO it works really well.
For the headphone calibration, there is the highly underrated ToneBoosters Morphit - for 29EUR it has a huge range of headphone models, you can choose what target curve to correct to, and you can simulate other headphone models. And you can demo it for basically as long as you need with full functionality. I highly recommend checking this out.
I then follow that with dearVR Monitor.
I've also tried Hornet VHS, and it's not as good as either of those two at either calibration or room emulation.
I am a SoundID guy and plan on getting the virtual monitoring on payday. Was considering the Slate Digital headphones, but I think I’ll just stick to what I got. Great video, thanks!
I 2nd this! Sonarworks is amazing
I can not believe Real headphones 2.0 was not mentioned. I own Vsx, Sonarwork, & real phones 2.0. I will give my overall vote to Realphones 2.0 as a slight winner over Vsx. I use my AKG 702 cans with both softwares.
Setting up a Surround Sound Studio and have played with the Free Dear VR Software. The $99 price tag is very intriguing
Just switched from my long time and trusted hd650’s and tested the NDH 30 along with the 490 pro. Both sets are good step up from my hd650 imo, but I gave the edge to 490 with slightly better sound stage and bass extension. It came with DearVR mix too and have to agree that the rooms are excellent. More convincing than the SoundID. I found the eq correction quite similar for the 490 in both softwares. Haven’t tried the 650 with DearVr but will have a listen to see if it is brighter as you say. So glad I didn’t bother with VSX though. Great video 👍
Thanks for this comment! I recently got some 490s and didn't notice the voucher in the box for DearVR!!! I've got it now tho!! I must learn to savour the unboxing process more and go through all of the contents. haha
@@scottsevenhow do you like it now?
@@officialdiomer I used it for a bit, and it was pretty good. I just used the free/included rooms and just trusted the plugin and was able to pump out some decent mixes. I recently got some Adam T7V monitors and have been mixing on those ever since. To the credit of the 490s and Dear VR, my mixes haven’t really changed all that much since mixing on monitors.
Thank you for this - very interesting! I own Sonarworks SoundID - and it's my prefered headphone compensation.
For a virtual room, I'm using DearVR Monitor. But now I wonder if it would make any sense to buy the virtual monitoring from Sonarworks? I've compared them, and I'm very unsure. DearVR has much more possibilties for adjustments, but might sound a bit more synthetic than the simple SoundID solution?
But maybe I'm biased now, because both tools in one place (and with a system-wide option) would be nice too.
(For Dolby Atmos experiments, I own APL Virtuoso 2. But I can't say that I love it so far. Especially not for stereo).
You just saved me some $$! Sonarwks just gave a summer sale on so got the headphone and virtual combo 99 euro! Works well with DT770 pro 80s
Amazing! Nicely done 👍🏻
I mix on audio technica ath-m50x with the Sonarworks software and heard about the VSX and am considering them especially because my current headphones have no low end
how true this rings to my ears.
Hi, thx for these reviews. My question is: I have a pair of open headphones, and for mic recording, I may eventually need a closed one in the long term to avoid sound bleeding (I guess that's the term). In that case, since probably the VSX is not perfect but still better than mixing on my HD599, do you think it is a good deal? Or would you still opt for a better pair of headphones + software for the same price?
Many thanks, yes I would certainly advise other headphones if you need closed back. The value is just so much better with beyerdynamic/sennheiser etc as most of the cost of VSX is for the software 👍🏻
@@HarvVideoAudioStuff Interesting, thank you! May I ask which one would you recommend?
Really useful info 👍
Useful video
what do you think of Acoustica Sienna?
The SonarWorks ReferenceID VST did not behave particularly well on my system. It crashed in Steinberg Wavelab Pro, Crashed in Ableton Live 10. It behaved better in J-River Media Center but it still had stability problems. I'm not a fan of having room correction in software that runs on a PC. It can be highly dependent on you source file. It might work at 24bit/48KHz and be a total crash fest at 24bit/192KHz. The Slate VSX software works the best for me and unlike you I appreciate what it does. It is pretty stable up to 24bit/192KHz. For studio monitors I much prefer the IK Multimedia ARC system.
Fair enough, yeah agreed, workflow issues often steer us in a particular direction with these things 😄I really wanted to love vsx (I really tried!) but in the end I couldn’t live with those headphones. Incidentally, did you see my Neumann ndh30 review? Worth a watch for sure 👍🏻
What about dSoniq?
Was gonna get slate but might go back to my original thought and get the Bd 990 pro or 900 pro x.. any thoughts on those two BD ones.. id want to pair em with sonarworks
I've got Sonarworks (with calibrated headphones) feeding into dSONIQ Realphones. I wonder whether something similar could be done feeding Sonarworks into DearVR MIX...
I do both that and use SoundID room sims. I think it works really well, but you have to really figure which of the simulations in Realphones can be used. Some have a rather imbalanced bass response that can be quite distracting. Music Studio sounds good though. But the virtual monitoring in Reference is really good already.