Apostle Chiwenga's Message To His Adventist Friends - Southern Africa Region 04 June 2022

[@ChatswithConnie]

Ngariende vhangeri!! Those whose names are written in the Book of life shall care to listen,believe and be saved.
Ndicho chinangwa che this gospel.
Amen👏

[@keithmudzengerere6679]

😊

[@amangoro]

Glory to God for such a powerful sermon. All the scriptures on the end of the Old Testament destroy the SDA claims of sabbath keeping, food laws, etc. Bro King Tshuma's testimony is icing on the cake. Beautiful!

[@sibangani70]

It's a tragedy that my brother King Tshuma has allowed himself to be led astray. Paul would say, oh foolish brother who has be-witched you. Chiwenga is leading people astray. Very sad indeed!

[@amangoro]

@@sibangani70 Oh, how ironic! Paul was actually rebuking foolish people like you who were being led back into the law of Moses just as SDAs have been misled to do. Please read Galatians with a sober mind and you'll see it's you who's in the wrong.

[@ColGaddafi]

@@sibangani70 The msgs that this man preaches are inspired by the Holy Spirit. Those who want to be saved will align themselves to the msg.

[@takuramaringire]

I pray that The Lord opens my heart to accept the True Gospel.

[@lisbrowncharakupa3302]

End timers are being warned of you apostle in end time message churchs these days. That is what made me pay attention to you. Now Im listening to your sermons I'm following from years back to now.

[@runyararoemmanuel6790]

what a profound testimony i have learnt a lot

[@patiencemarange7731]

My Adventist friend be sobber and vigilant beware of these false prophets ....many will be decieved in these last days...

[@nicksonmrewa7671]

Be transparent, which false prophets coz what Chiwenga is say is true and with scriptural references.

[@bonganimkonto]

Sound doctrine of Jesus Christ from above. We thank Holy Spirit for the teaching.

[@juniasshudeni226]

M always rejoicing when i listen to sound doctrine by Apostle F T Chiwenga,true doctrine.

[@chamuchiwara7373]

Wake up and study for your self John 8:32

[@TheLugiko]

Thanks for sharing this presentation.
I have carefully listened to this guy and have learned a couple of things that I will share with you.
1. The guy is somehow learned about the Scripture but fails to understand key things in the Scripture. I have learned that the guy is either by choice or by ignorance limited in the understanding of the concepts like salvation by faith, the definition of sin, the origin of God’s law, the Cleansing of Sanctuary, and many more.
2. The guy fallaciously curses Ellen White and attacks her personally, than discussing fundamental issues of faith that Ellen White presents.
3. The guy lies that the SDA church perceives the Bible as equal to Ellen White's writings. The truth is that, there is no such a doctrine in the SDA church. He further lies that the founding principle of the church is the Law of Moses. The reality is that, the SDA church is founded on Christ, His incarnation, His Messianic message, and His imminent second advent while observing His faith. Read Revelation 14:12
4. The guy, either by choice or by ignorance uses interchangeably the term “the law of Moses and the God’s law or the Decalogue.” I advise you to take the time and learn about the two.
5. The guy uses a significant amount of time to question the authority of Ellen White to proclaim the Law of God, losing sight of what really is the message presented by Ellen White in many more books she wrote, (if at all he fully understands them.)
6. The guy is either by choice or by ignorance thinks that the SDA church is built on Ellen White. What he doesn’t know or what he blinds himself is that, one of the fundamental beliefs of the SDA church is the belief in Sola Scriptura and not in anyone’s doctrine. Any doctrine that is against Sola Scriptura doesn’t hold the SDA faith.
7. The guy tends to claim that in his presentation he would address three keys topics, named Superiority of the 10 Commandments, the Moral Law vs the Ceremonial Laws,_ and the Superiority of the Sabbath-keeping law._ Of the three arguments, he didn’t level up any meaningful argument but mere insults and curses.
8. The guy lies about the meaning of the name “Seventh-day Adventist” and uses a fallacy of manipulation to lure the ignorant listeners to grasp the wrong meaning. I suggest you even Google the meaning of Adventism, and you’ll find that it’s all about the second coming of Christ.
9. And of the guy who is claimed to be giving testimony in the last minutes of the presentations, I will just pitifully ask him, What is the Bible?
10. He lies about when the Sabbath begins and ends. He says the opposite of Luke 23:54
Now mate, I just want to help you somehow understand what the Seventh-day Adventist Church believes. There are 28 Fundamental Beliefs that the SDA Church holds fast and firm!
I will share with you a few that are Biblical and that any professed Christian should believe and follow. I will begin by sharing with you about the understanding of the “Law of God,” which most perverted preachers like this one lie to people that they were done away with, on the Cross. What they don’t know is that the Law of God is still binding and it is which holds peace in the world and the entire universe.
What is the Law of God?
▶The Law of God is also referred to as the “Decalogue,” “God’s Law” or “The Ten Commandments.”
They are some of the oldest moral guidelines known to man. The law of God was first written down in the Old Testament of the Bible.
▶These 10 commandments are found in Exodus 20 and have served as a moral blueprint for humanity to live a life of freedom, respect and virtue for many generations.
▶The first few commandments help us maintain a healthy relationship with God, and the rest guide our relationships with other humans. They are a way for humanity to express our devotion and obedience to God, and a way for God to express His will and character to us.
They express God’s love, will, and purposes concerning human conduct and relationships and are binding upon all people in every age. These precepts are the basis of God’s covenant with His people and the standard in God’s judgment. Through the agency of the Holy Spirit they point out sin and awaken a sense of need for a Saviour. Salvation is all of grace and not of works, and its fruit is obedience to the Commandments.
This obedience develops Christian character and results in a sense of well-being. It is evidence of our love for the Lord and our concern for our fellow human beings. The obedience of faith demonstrates the power of Christ to transform lives and therefore strengthens Christian witness.
See the following Bible texts in support of the Law of God
1. Exod. 20:1-17
2. Deut. 28:1-14
3. Ps. 19:7-14
4. Ps 40:7, 8
5. Matt. 5:17-20
6. Matt. 22:36-40 “Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfill. For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. Whosoever, therefore, shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven. For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.”
7. John 14:15 “If ye love me, keep my commandments.”
8. John 15:7-10 “If ye abide in me, and my words abide in you, ye shall ask what ye will, and it shall be done unto you. Herein is my Father glorified, that ye bear much fruit; so shall ye be my disciples. As the Father hath loved me, so have I loved you: continue ye in my love. If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love.”
9. Rom. 8:3, 4 “For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh: That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.”
10. Eph. 2:8-10 “For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast. For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.
11. Heb. 8:8-10 “For finding fault with them, he saith, Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah: Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day when I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt; because they continued not in my covenant, and I regarded them not, saith the Lord. For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:”
12. 1 John 2:3, 4 “And hereby we do know that we know him if we keep his commandments. He that saith, I know him, and keepeth, not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.”
13.1John 5:3 “For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.
14. Rev. 12:17 “And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.”
15. Rev. 14:12 “Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.”
If God's Laws were done away with, tell me what Laws Jesus is referring in the above texts? Beloved, never be lied by fake preachers. Learn the truth, and follow it for your own salvation.
Now, it’s up to you now to choose the truth of the Bible on God’s Immutable Law or the fables of the perverted preachers like this one. May God help you.

[@sibangani70]

He is indeed leading people astray. So sad to see

[@chamuchiwara7373]

So deep my brother Lugiko Lugiko thank God for defending the truth

[@chamuchiwara7373]

Thank you bro Lugiko Lugiko for defending the truth

[@nicksonmrewa7671]

Can you explain Hebrews 9, Colossians 2:14-17

[@vuyothwala8705]

Amen man of God I hear you clearly, you always speak what God has already reviewed to me. The spirit makes me understand your teachings so easily. The gospel has been preached but not the true gospel of the kingdom. Until everyone hear of the true gospel of the kingdom then shall the end come. I saw the video of Chri guessing the end dates.

[@stonemuk]

Seventh Day Adventists believe that salvation is fully and completely provided by Jesus Christ. The mistake that non Adventists make is in not understanding the relation between salvation and obedience. We're saved unto good works. In other words obedience to God's law is a result of being saved, it's not in order to be saved!
Many fail to understand this fundamental issue.
The Pharisees' mistake was in trying to honour God's law, they rejected the God of the law. The sin of the modern Christian society is to claim to love God while rejecting His law. The law of God is an expression of His character. Anyone who is willing can study the characteristics of God vs His law. It will be apparent to an honest seeker that God nowhere in the correct understanding of Scripture has abrogated His law.

[@isaacmurambiwa9908]

@Stone Muk .. your problem is that you did not listen the message... yu just listened a piece and came out to comment... yu're still rigid in encouraging people to follow the law but it was proven in the message that the law HAS THE PROMISE OF THE GOSPEL (Romans1:1-2) ... and yet what saves is not the promise of the gospel but the gospel itself.... we're saved by grace thru faith (Ephesians2:8-9).... can yu address Romans11:6-8 please?... also Romans3:21

[@stonemuk]

@@isaacmurambiwa9908
Why are you so judgmental. I've actually watched the whole presentation yet you claim I haven't! This is the problem with people who follow preachers blindly. Just because a guy calls himself apostle doesn't mean that you swallow everything that comes out of his mouth. The Bible says to examine the spirits, even as he's being critical of Ellen White so must his doctrine be subject to scrutiny. He doesn't have a monopoly of the Scriptures, or does he?
There are a lot of subjects I agree with him. This is not one of them.

[@isaacmurambiwa9908]

@@stonemuk so yu agree the teachings of the Seventh Day adventists are not true?.... coz that's the topic here... not those trivial matters like the date of birth of SDA

[@stonemuk]

Where I'm my comments do you get that idea?
I'm an open-minded learner and at the moment I do not see any of the opposers of Adventist doctrine giving a cogent explanation of Romans 3:31.
Bearing in mind the writings of Paul can be misunderstood by gainsayers.

[@isaacmurambiwa9908]

@@stonemuk .. the Problem yu're having with Romans3:31 is that yu're reading it in isolation.... when Paul said do we make void of the law? Nay but we establish it... he didn't mean to say we follow it.. but as it is even now in the true Church of Jesus Christ... the law we read it and have sermons based on the old testament scriptures... but not with a mission to follow it literally but to learn how the Gospel of Christ was hidden there.... and to come out with revelation so Christ can be built inside us.... so its never like we shall never in any way remember that there was something called the law of Moses in the bible (we can not make the law void)... but rather we'll keep on learning how Christ is witnessed by that same law (establishing it)....

[@arthurmphonde4290]

famba Mupostori wa Jesu all Anti-Christ shall be exposed. We thank God for you.

[@deboramatemera6126]

thank you Apostle

[@lucas15mm]

After everything has been said and done...keeping the law is not a sin. Jesus always urged people to obey his commands and teachings

[@mashmallow5578]

His commandments not the commandments of Moses, the two are different. That is where most people are lost. The new testament has it's own commandments
Hebrews 7:12
[12]For the priesthood being changed, there is made of necessity a change also of the law.
The Levitical priesthood was for the old testament, the new testament has the Melchezedec priesthood
7:11Hebrews 7:11-12
[11]If therefore perfection were by the Levitical priesthood, (for under it the people received the law,) what further need was there that another priest should rise after the order of Melchisedec, and not be called after the order of Aaron?

[@stephenndlovu60]

Mmmm Amen Amen Amen ❤❤

[@amaivevana7937]

This is a beautiful opportunity for Adventists to respond to some genuine questions in the comments section. God works in mysterious ways.

[@TheLugiko]

Thanks for sharing this presentation.
I have carefully listened to this guy and have learned a couple of things that I will share with you.
1. The guy is somehow learned about the Scripture but fails to understand key things in the Scripture. I have learned that the guy is either by choice or by ignorance limited in the understanding of the concepts like salvation by faith, the definition of sin, the origin of God’s law, the Cleansing of Sanctuary, and many more.
2. The guy fallaciously curses Ellen White and attacks her personally, than discussing fundamental issues of faith that Ellen White presents.
3. The guy lies that the SDA church perceives the Bible as equal to Ellen White's writings. The truth is that, there is no such a doctrine in the SDA church. He further lies that the founding principle of the church is the Law of Moses. The reality is that, the SDA church is founded on Christ, His incarnation, His Messianic message, and His imminent second advent while observing His faith. Read Revelation 14:12
4. The guy, either by choice or by ignorance uses interchangeably the term “the law of Moses and the God’s law or the Decalogue.” I advise you to take the time and learn about the two.
5. The guy uses a significant amount of time to question the authority of Ellen White to proclaim the Law of God, losing sight of what really is the message presented by Ellen White in many more books she wrote, (if at all he fully understands them.)
6. The guy is either by choice or by ignorance thinks that the SDA church is built on Ellen White. What he doesn’t know or what he blinds himself is that, one of the fundamental beliefs of the SDA church is the belief in Sola Scriptura and not in anyone’s doctrine. Any doctrine that is against Sola Scriptura doesn’t hold the SDA faith.
7. The guy tends to claim that in his presentation he would address three keys topics, named Superiority of the 10 Commandments, the Moral Law vs the Ceremonial Laws,_ and the Superiority of the Sabbath-keeping law._ Of the three arguments, he didn’t level up any meaningful argument but mere insults and curses.
8. The guy lies about the meaning of the name “Seventh-day Adventist” and uses a fallacy of manipulation to lure the ignorant listeners to grasp the wrong meaning. I suggest you even Google the meaning of Adventism, and you’ll find that it’s all about the second coming of Christ.
9. And of the guy who is claimed to be giving testimony in the last minutes of the presentations, I will just pitifully ask him, What is the Bible?
10. He lies about when the Sabbath begins and ends. He says the opposite of Luke 23:54
Now mate, I just want to help you somehow understand what the Seventh-day Adventist Church believes. There are 28 Fundamental Beliefs that the SDA Church holds fast and firm!
I will share with you a few that are Biblical and that any professed Christian should believe and follow. I will begin by sharing with you about the understanding of the “Law of God,” which most perverted preachers like this one lie to people that they were done away with, on the Cross. What they don’t know is that the Law of God is still binding and it is which holds peace in the world and the entire universe.
What is the Law of God?
▶The Law of God is also referred to as the “Decalogue,” “God’s Law” or “The Ten Commandments.”
They are some of the oldest moral guidelines known to man. The law of God was first written down in the Old Testament of the Bible.
▶These 10 commandments are found in Exodus 20 and have served as a moral blueprint for humanity to live a life of freedom, respect and virtue for many generations.
▶The first few commandments help us maintain a healthy relationship with God, and the rest guide our relationships with other humans. They are a way for humanity to express our devotion and obedience to God, and a way for God to express His will and character to us.
They express God’s love, will, and purposes concerning human conduct and relationships and are binding upon all people in every age. These precepts are the basis of God’s covenant with His people and the standard in God’s judgment. Through the agency of the Holy Spirit they point out sin and awaken a sense of need for a Saviour. Salvation is all of grace and not of works, and its fruit is obedience to the Commandments.
This obedience develops Christian character and results in a sense of well-being. It is evidence of our love for the Lord and our concern for our fellow human beings. The obedience of faith demonstrates the power of Christ to transform lives and therefore strengthens Christian witness.
See the following Bible texts in support of the Law of God
1. Exod. 20:1-17
2. Deut. 28:1-14
3. Ps. 19:7-14
4. Ps 40:7, 8
5. Matt. 5:17-20
6. Matt. 22:36-40 “Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfill. For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. Whosoever, therefore, shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven. For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.”
7. John 14:15 “If ye love me, keep my commandments.”
8. John 15:7-10 “If ye abide in me, and my words abide in you, ye shall ask what ye will, and it shall be done unto you. Herein is my Father glorified, that ye bear much fruit; so shall ye be my disciples. As the Father hath loved me, so have I loved you: continue ye in my love. If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love.”
9. Rom. 8:3, 4 “For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh: That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.”
10. Eph. 2:8-10 “For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast. For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.
11. Heb. 8:8-10 “For finding fault with them, he saith, Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah: Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day when I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt; because they continued not in my covenant, and I regarded them not, saith the Lord. For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:”
12. 1 John 2:3, 4 “And hereby we do know that we know him if we keep his commandments. He that saith, I know him, and keepeth, not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.”
13.1John 5:3 “For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.
14. Rev. 12:17 “And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.”
15. Rev. 14:12 “Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.”
If God's Laws were done away with, tell me what Laws Jesus is referring in the above texts? Beloved, never be lied by fake preachers. Learn the truth, and follow it for your own salvation.
Now, it’s up to you now to choose the truth of the Bible on God’s Immutable Law or the fables of the perverted preachers like this one. May God help you

[@chidochashejinga6454]

​@@TheLugiko thank you

[@P_Nyathi]

​@@TheLugikowell done brother. Lift up the trumpet and loud let it ring
This guy is just a proud heretic,no truth abides in him

[@faithj2274]

God bless you apostle

[@giftmngati9975]

Thank you Holy Spirit, we are a learning people

[@lynnmakumbi6727]

glory to God❤

[@stonemuk]

KJV 2 Peter 3:15-16
15 And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you;
16 As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.

[@chiherachashe8208]

The time of shaking is upon us. Ngatisabude mungarava

[@josephmusere327]

Rev 14:12 “Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.”
This is true apostle John commenting on the true remnant church of the very last days.
Rev 12:17“And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.”
And of course the dragon will be wroth with them.....fight them using all methods ...even using false yet respected appostles
Proverbs 28:9 “He that turneth away his ear from hearing the law, even his prayer shall be abomination.”
Ezekiel 22:26 “Her priests have violated my law, and have profaned mine holy things: they have put no difference between the holy and profane, neither have they shewed difference between the unclean and the clean, and have hid their eyes from my sabbaths, and I am profaned among them.”
yET another prophecy of last days church
Test of true prophet Isaiah 8:20 “To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them.”

[@hilarygodfrey2348]

True they're confusing the book of Moses and the 10 commandments.
I have not yet heard Chiwenga speaking about the 2nd coming of Christ.

[@chamuchiwara7373]

@@hilarygodfrey2348 Preachers who do not preach the Second Coming Of Christ risk the accussations of being labelled Self proclaimed Christs.Being Charismatic is one thing truth can be understood even by a house maide.If the Law is abolished why doesn't Talent take power and rule the country as he is good at talking about our leaders ?Why not go take money at the Bank which belongs to the corrupt because there is no Law.Bro these brothers are kidding and just hate the SDA for how super organised they are Worldwide.We ust teach them not to hate but love them and only must share the truth in love.We pray for your enlightment my dear brothren.

[@chamuchiwara7373]

Truth baba

[@hilarygodfrey2348]

@@chamuchiwara7373
I agree with you. He has also dished out many prophecies which violate the definition of prophecy in Revelation 19:10.
What i feel as Paul said the end should not come until the falling away occurs 1st. I see this Hegelian dialectic principle of king of the north vs king of the south playing act even in the church.
Now if you listen to guys like Makandiwa, Uebert, Bushiri, Tb Joshua, Benny Hinn, etc- that's definitely king of the south philosophy.
Whilst this guy pretends to be king of the north. But Daniel says they shall do mischief at one table.
What i understand is that this is the beginning of the drying of Euphrates.
The Revelation 14 and Revelation 18 come out of Babylon my people message.
God has to expose who Babylon is. This started at the Covid-19 crisis, now the COP26(global warming), the Ukraine crisis, the impending food shortage and economic collapse, the WEF. Prophecy is global just as the church is global.
They will expose each other(north vs south). We are to expect this to get worse.
For us this is fulfillment of biblical prophecy, not some stupid predictions of leadership in a corrupt African country which is almost collapsing.
Now this is my concern. The bible warns again and again about preparing for the 2nd coming of Christ(coming as a thief). This message comes to a finale with The Seal of God vs the mark of beast crisis. You would expect all churches to be preaching The Seal of God( 10 commandments). Rather than these hallucinations that pple like Makandiwa, Uebert etc dish out.

[@michaeltanaka2702]

the last speaker is very lucid and eloquent in his explanations. i'd like to hear more of his perspectives on doctrinal issues. well done.

[@frankservant5754]

Of a truth we are saved by grace it is almost impossible to convert someone who has other beliefs. No man can come to the Father unless He draws Him. I personally have had dreams where I was contending with Adventists (I live abroad) and I must say God has a heart for them

[@sibangani70]

Romans 3 is clear that it is by grace. The blood of Jesus saves us. No human merit. This however is not the end of it.
Romans 3:31 (KJV) Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.
Grace does not take away the requirement to keep the law (10 commandments and not 9)
Supporting verses
John 14:15
If ye love me, keep my commandments.
1 John 2:4
He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
John 14:21
He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.
John 15:10
If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love.

[@dankilloe7924]

I like this man for standing for the truth in most cases, but I beg to differ with his view pertaining Adventists.
Adventists preach about the second coming of the Lord, our Savior Jesus Christ.
Putting them in the group of people who preach against the Lord is off the mark.
Elijah thought he was the only o e left for God, but NO, there were others that he didn't know who were so obedient to te Lord Almighty

[@amangoro]

Adventists miss it out completely by mixing the Law of Moses. It's not just a matter of preaching the 2nd Coming that makes a true church. It's full commitment to the pure doctrine of Christ. Adventists fall far short. Eg they don't subscribe to John 1:17 For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ. Also Romans 10:4
For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth. In short Moses and Christ don't go hand in hand.

[@brendachihambakwe1519]

Yes they preach about the second coming just like most of the denomination but they don't know about the one who is coming. PEOPLE who kill using poison ,hide the poison in the food so to deceive the victim .That's what the Seventh-day Adventist doctrine is .

[@sliqy3008]

@@amangoro but we shuld also look @Rev 22vs 14

[@amangoro]

@@sliqy3008 Aohh my God! There are two sets of commandments in the Bible - Moses' and Christ's. Read John 1v17 The law came by Moses, but grace and truth came by Christ; John 13v34 A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another (Christ). Plus many others, Romans 10v4, Galatians 3v2,5,11 etc. Revelation has little to do with Moses. His law/testament was retired due to it's weakness and unprofitableness (Hebrews 7v18). Never mix Christ and Moses; otherwise you get a very poisonous concoction.

[@chamuchiwara7373]

Thank you for seeing this bro people need to apply sense when the hear the so called Gospel from these self proclaimed Apostles and Prophets of God.Feelings aside but facts on the table and correct biblical interpretation

[@lisbrowncharakupa3302]

This is sound. I have been in end time message for 42 years. I still think it's the most dangerous cult. I did not know that Adventist were in almost the same situation.

[@sibangani70]

Romans 3 is clear that it is by grace. The blood of Jesus saves us. No human merit. This however is not the end of it.
Romans 3:31 (KJV) Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.
Grace does not take away the requirement to keep the law (10 commandments and not 9)
Supporting verses
John 14:15
If ye love me, keep my commandments.
1 John 2:4
He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
John 14:21
He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.
John 15:10
If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love.

[@roswittachikusvura5506]

🔥🔥📖

[@joylinedzomba955]

Hahahah i am now doubting other claims that are raised against other churches, bcoz things that are being said here are not. You might have to say in my own opinion. In SDA everything is preached. also Jesus the owner of the gospel actually says if you love me keep my commandments. You cannot separate it. But well thank you for raising that, many are going to research and drawn to the truth😉. Hanz regai zvikurirane

[@lillianmakumbis3808]

First time SDA challenged Thankyou Lord 🙏🙏 tell them apostle

[@josephmusere327]

KKKKK Sounds like its a war. What a mortal man cn fight for the truth. Its neither JRM nor Adventist but Jesus, helooooo kkkk

[@tinnahtsvati2658]

😂😂😂😂😂 you're sounding as if it's a war true

[@sammarufu8774]

If you think we have distanced our self on the sanctuary massage you have fooled yourself have time and type Evengelist Marufu we are still preaching this massage

[@deniaszvobgo5675]

If you are sincere and honest about what you are presenting, why don't you invite a Seventh day Adventist to ask and discuss? The challenge is that you are not presenting the truth about Adventists..it's so sad to find someone who purpotes to preach the truth,bearing false witness .You give what you think to justify your own personal perspective...be honest and sincere, invite an Adventist and ask rather than misrepresenting what you don't understand..

[@josephnkhuwah7854]

Where in the Bible is it written that the Sabbath was from sunrise to sunset Mr apostle sir? By the way one does not observe the law to buy salvation. The law of God is observed because of appreciating God's salvation given through Christ Jesus.

[@rufarosharonborerwe3689]

All I can say is ,Deno Mwari vatibetsera pamazuva ano atiri ekupedzesera tizviverengere magwaro tinzwisise izvo Mwari anoda tiite.tirege kutsamira panjere dzedu kana pakunzwisisa kweumwe or kufunga kweumwe. Jesus is coming back soon let's be prepared 🙏

[@wilsonkwatamanzi5821]

The Adventist Church was only organised in 1864. There was no Adventist church during Miller's movement. In other words, the esteemed 'Apostle' has founded his presentation on fundamental untruths.

[@ellenchoga8846]

Well you have a terrible listening skill, Apostle never said Adventism started in the days of the Miller Movement, he actually said Adventism started after the Great Disappointment which ended effectively the Miller movement.

[@37kingt]

During William Miller's time, it was called the Advent Movement. It's the same group that was organised into an official church, in 1864, & called themselves the SDA Church.

[@wilsonkwatamanzi5821]

As an Adventist I took interest to listen. But you saying from the beginning that we are your Adventist friends and at the same time inferring that we are not believers or children of God but a 'group of people in society'' was very ingenuous.

[@lorrainchanda6803]

Asi uri mufundisi unopindira kupi

[@amangoro]

My dear, let's be honest here. Did you listen to this sermon? If you didn't, you would have been convicted big time. All those scriptures testifying on how lost SDAs are cannot be taken for granted. Do something to save your soul.

[@chipmunks_zw]

All these 3hrs, and thats an Adventist's answer, all the addressed issues and scriptures, ndoyega nyaya yamabuda nayo🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@isaacmurambiwa9908]

@@chipmunks_zw imagine 🤣🤣🤣🤣 ndatoshaya kana kuti ndimuti kudii moziva?

[@isaacmurambiwa9908]

😂😂 zvakaoma... ndo argument yenyu iyi?????? Like seriously?

[@nabothmutepfa4870]

That's apostle for teaching the Seventh day Adventist

[@jeremiahshingaimandizha3410]

Apostle GINO Jeanings is Apostle Chiwenga spiritual father. Their style of preaching & their massage especially about other churches is the Same.
Chiwenga you must have that discussion with an Adventist not alone cz you don't even understand ADVENTISM.
THE DOCTRINE OF ADVENTISM IS CENTERED ON THE RIGHTEOUSNESS OF CHRIST.

[@pridemushambi1998]

Please Apostle, we do not observe Gods decalogue to acquire salvation, thats not true about adventists. We follow the law because in it there is love for one another and to show love and loyalty to Jesus.

[@uchiewedenga8315]

Chiwenga's interpretation of the Bible, as shallow and naive as it is, is necessary because it is acting as a sieve. The chaff is being separated from the corn by it. The goats are going to the left and the sheep going to the right.

[@sibangani70]

He is a wolf in sheep's clothing

[@padrechimbuya7126]

Apostle jude 1verse 4 mozoivenga mushe manhaizwa nevet apo fighting for the faith is different nephysical fight yamukutaura

[@guruuswafilmcompany]

Tinotenda neshoko rehupenyu

[@poshochimwala3020]

I am intrigued on how this apostle thrive on other people- you sound like you are the only one who is right in this christian journey ?

[@user-kv6fl1hg9i]

HE IS NOT A CHRISTIAN,NOT EVEN A RELIGIOUS PERSON.

[@jacobngonidzashe6295]

This guy has so many things he does not know. It's not Arthur Miller but William Miller.......He also does not know that Ellen White never preached during br William Miller's time, rather it was brethren like Joseph Bates and crew, while Ellen white was still a young girl.

[@wilsonkwatamanzi5821]

Point if correction for the esteemed 'apostle.. In 1844 EG White was 16 years Old and she couldn't have been an Adventist prophet who would have been part of the many years of the Millerite movement prior to her being 16 years

[@ellenchoga8846]

Ofcourse that is not true, Ellen White’s spiritualism was claimed to have started when she was 12 years old, after she fell ill coming from school. She was a member of the Miller movement and you will be a hypocrite to deny that

[@37kingt]

It's true that Ellen White was a teenager at the time. That's Actually another problem in that, seasoned SDA Movement members disregarded the clear teaching of Scripture & believed a teenage girl. The rest is history.

[@anduerpiopaulo2226]

What I can say of this Apostles is that he is not reading and interpreting scripture in its immediate context and he uses this wrong approach to construct his own opinions and make them appear as if it's biblical teachings.
Secondly he's speaking evil of Sdas and God's end time prophet (Ellen.G.White) without showing solid accuracate evidence prove of his claims.

[@robertmatereke384]

I enjoy hearing the believers show casing their biblical knowledge..
However am still to hear an preacher who can take us through the proper Gospel of Christ...Centred on ...
1) Matthew 16 vs 18
When Christ promised to found His Church....
2) Acts 2 ...When the believers started to gather after baptism
3)Also the way how Church was planted in different places...eg at Corinth... Ephesus... Thessaloniki...and other different places...
4) 2 John 1 vs 8-10....Whoever leads a congratulation and does not abide by Christ's Gospel does not have God and the Son...
My point of discussion is why today all "Men of God" are founding they own Churches and give them their own identity be it uniform... doctrine...etc... Apostle Paul instructed us not to add or subtract from the Gospel...No Wonder why not even one Apostle found his own Church but just plant Christ's Church...which He bought with his blood(Acts 20 vs 28) ...Where He Himself is the Redeemer of His Body....
Sometimes am tempted to think today 's so called apostles are all shifting from the true Gospel of Christ in many ways... Thanks to the availability of the word of God where we can see how we are going wrong...THE GOSPEL IS CLEAR... JESUS CHRIST BOUGHT HIS CHURCH...ACTS 20 VS 28
AND HE PROMISED THE CHURCH WILL NEVER DIE...KKKKK BECAUSE SOME WILL SAY ...IYO CHURCH YA KRISTU YAKADARIKA...
IF WE GO BACK TO THE ORIGINAL PLAN YA MWARI ...NO ONE WILL OWN THE CHURCH....

[@isaacmurambiwa9908]

Yu're right even here in Jesus Revelation Ministries... we're in the New testament and the founder of our church is Jesus Christ himself none other

[@thato97]

Thought you are Zimbabwean, your accent is East African.

[@jamessibanda2761]

I was born in Adventist, the biggest problem is SDAs were indoctrinated we rely too much on Elen white teachings. Without Ellen White writings seventy day cannot stand

[@aaronmunhuweyi5144]

Fact?

[@SRuva-of6ue]

True that.

[@aaronmunhuweyi5144]

I was raised Catholic, became Seventh-day Adventist at 35. I did not know EGW, came across a worn-out old edition of The Great Controversy, read it from the existing 'first' page to the last, bought the new edition, read from cover to cover. I was not an Adventist at this time. Spent 3 or so years wrestling with what I had read. And I was left with no choice but to become a Seventh-day Adventist. I love the truth from her writings. However, her writings do not replace the Bible, they point to the Bible. The Bible reigns supreme.

[@aaronbchikuni1679]

You're a liar, l never lost a discussion with anyone but l never used Ellen White writings

[@tapiwamatariranwa]

You are right, the SDAs were indoctrinated with the false doctrine. If you are an Adventist repent before its too late.

[@lucas15mm]

People...read your Bible don't be fooled but doctrines...don't let other people tell you what is in the Bible.

[@pridemushambi1998]

there are no more gentiles or jews, we are all one and whatever is written in scripture is directed towards the whole universe.

[@abigailmpofu4210]

Chiwenga you DO NOT anything about SDA to commend about it.
Dissist from commending what you have no full knowledge of.God Have Mercy!!!!

[@loydmagwaza3146]

Amen

[@aromariodube1378]

Revelation 12:17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

[@kediasjackson101]

If there is Reformed Theology surely SDA should be cut some slack for Reforming what Ellen White wrote and they should be allowed continue to reform as God reveals true scripture to them.

[@stonemuk]

KJV Romans 3:27-31
27 Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works? Nay: but by the law of faith.
28 Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law.
29 Is he the God of the Jews only? is he not also of the Gentiles? Yes, of the Gentiles also:
30 Seeing it is one God, which shall justify the circumcision by faith, and uncircumcision through faith.
31 Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.

[@stonemuk]

The name means that we're awaiting the second coming of our Lord while keeping all His law with special emphasis on the Sabbath because of all His laws, this is the one most controverted by christiandom despite God calling on believers to remember. Is it not ironic that the Sabbath is the only one of the ten that every ' belliever' thinks has been done away with.

[@isaacmurambiwa9908]

The Whole law.. not sabbath only was done away with.....

[@noelhlomula459]

@@isaacmurambiwa9908 Do you even understand what the whole law means? Now you can...worship other Gods; Make a graven image(god) for yourself; hold the name of God in vain; Break the Sabbath; disrespect parents; commit murder; steal; bear false witness and covet? That what in essence you mean. The ten commandment ARE moral laws and God made them thus for a reason. They were not done away with...Matthew 5:17

[@isaacmurambiwa9908]

@@noelhlomula459 yu're still far away my brother.... the reason why we no longer steal, kill and all those things is not because we're following Exodus20.... but because we're dead to those things read the whole of Romans 6...... when yu're made alive in Christ.. the flesh becomes dead... so yu become dead to those things... again Matthew 5:17 yu're misunderstanding it simply because yu read it in isolation... had it been that yu're reading it together with verse18.. yu'd have understood that the law ended.... coz firstly on Matt5:17.. yu're not failing to understand doctrine there... but yu're failing to understand a mere grammar.... he said i came to FULFILL.... now my brother Noel are yu suggesting that Christ didn't fulfill the law? If your answer is he fulfilled then my question is what is the further need of pursuing that which was fulfilled? Its like I promise to buy yu shoes 1 day.. its a promise waiting to be fulfilled.. and as long i haven't fulfilled it yet yu're free to visit my promise and then remind me of that... but from the day i fulfill that promise onwards... is there any further need to ask me or keep on pursuing that promise which was fulfilled?????? Another thing verse18 is clear.... it says for verily i say unto yu one jot or one title shall in no wise pass from the law, TILL all be fulfilled.... that position doesn't mean that the law was not going to end but it was telling us that it was going to end with a condition (till all be fulfilled).... if i say yu're not going to school until all dishes are washed... am not suggesting that yu won't go to school... no... I'm simply giving a condition that yu'll go after dishes are done.... now with this knowledge (that the law was going to end after all was fulfilled).... we don need to stress ourselves by checking whether the law ended seriously or not... we simply check if all was FULFILLED... if we then see that... then we know automatically that the law ended.. because we heard that it was going to end after all was fulfilled...... thats then when we shift focus to John19:28-30
John 19:28 After this, Jesus knowing that all things were now accomplished, THAT THE SCRIPTURE MIGHT BE FULFILLED , saith, I thirst. 19:29 Now there was set a vessel full of vinegar: and they filled a spunge with vinegar, and put it upon hyssop, and put it to his mouth. 19:30 When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, IT IS FINISHED: and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost.
this is the scripture which shows that all things were fulfilled...... if we do this then the argument is dismissed....
If we then want to do an extra job to verify the claim (that the law ended)..... that's when we can go the following scriptures:-
1. Ephesiians2:11-15
2. Romans10:1-4*
3. Galatians 5:1-4
4. Hebrews7:11-12,18
5. Colosians2:13-16
6. Romans7:1-4
7. Galatians3:22-26
8. Romans8:13
And manh more

[@noelhlomula459]

@@isaacmurambiwa9908 You have taken a loooong time to explain "FULFILL'. That alone should tell you that you are theologizing a simple statement that Christ made. Do you know the difference in Ceremonial Laws, Statutory Laws and Moral Laws? If you do then you know the truth but choose to ignore it.

[@isaacmurambiwa9908]

@@noelhlomula459 and yet there is no anywhere in the bible where they're grouped into ceremonial and moral laws..... again those scriptures which i presented to you which tell us that the law ended they neither tell us ceremonials ended and morals remained nor tell us that the partially ended..... its yu who's theologizing the metter here by saying something which was never said in bible... simply because yu want to defend a lie.... the truth has been presented just in front of you... and all yu're doing is giberishing a lot of empty statements without producing even 1 verse... my advice to yu is for once... just be honest to yourself and listen to the inside voice.... yu can be helped.... can yu give me a scripture which says these are ceremonial laws and these are moral laws... after that yu'll then show me another one which says the ceremonial ended and the moral remained..... i'll then repenting of spreading a lie .... but then if not so ... then yu must also repent of sprea lie.

[@edwinzimunya1040]

Point of correction Apostle T F Chiwenga the year 1844 is not eighteenth century, but nineteenth century. The year 1744 is a good example of eighteenth century.

[@11kamba]

thats all you heard in the whole sermon?

[@amangoro]

Point noted, but let's focus on the bigger picture. The content of the sermon isn't altered by this detail.

[@ellenchoga8846]

Ofcourse that is a slip of the tongue, I am sure you do not think that Apostle does not know that, unless you are a gainsaying grandstander. This should not be something a mature person would find energy to correct, its embarrassing

[@isaacmurambiwa9908]

@@11kamba ... they're a wonder😂

[@isaacmurambiwa9908]

@@ellenchoga8846 ✔✔✔✔✔

[@roytakudzwa5520]

instead of insulting Apostle why dont yall book for Dare and simply prove him wrong , SDA comments here confirmed what he said about how bad they are at debates etc

[@aromariodube1378]

Ellen G. White was only 17 years old when the great disappointment happened.

[@aromariodube1378]

And Ellen white saw her first vision in December 1844

[@kingmasasacnl212]

You are incorrect. Mr Chiwenga is not an apostle. No one has the qualifications to be called an apostle right now, except perhaps if you are re-establishing the foundations of Christianity. You require assistance.

[@stewardnyadenga6112]

Brother Chiwenga
You have clearly proved that you have not yet not yet read the origin of SDA. You mix truth and error my brother. The Cleansing of the Sanctuary is not an SDA doctrine but it is Biblical doctrine. What you missed is that in the 1844 disappointment faced by Mellarites group. It is Ellen White who was given the vision to correct the error. I am praying for you my brother

[@37kingt]

For the record, according to William Miller's calculations, following his 15 proofs, our Lord was supposed to return in 1843. This date was later revised & changed to March 1844. This is when Ellen White had testified that God had blanked 1 number, to test their faith.
Still that date was changed again to 22 October 1844, the Great Disappointment Day, in that the Millerites waited in vain. Through visions, Haram Edson testified that the Lord, on that day, was moving from The Holy Place, to the Most Holy place. Ellen White confirmed this Through visions. Thus the birth of one of the Pillars of the SDA Doctrine - the Investigative Judgement, which was never taught by Jesus Christ, nor His Apostles who preached after Him.

[@PriscillaPadza]

Still It remains a heretic, an unbiblical doctrine, never mind who did what. That is what the apostle is explaining according to scriptures. If you adhere to this Ellen White doctrine come out with scriptures to justify your argument. You don't need to pray but to prove that it the doctrine of the cleansing of the Sanctuary is not false.

[@amangoro]

@@37kingt You have all the facts ready. Great testimony you gave, by the way.

[@37kingt]

We may argue until the cows 🐄 come back home. However, the bottom line is that William Miller, Haram Edson & Ellen White, predicted that Jesus Christ was going to return to this earth, 1st in 1843, then in March 1844 & lastly, in October 1844. The fact is that the Lord did not return, to this day. So, the SDA was formalised as a church in 1864, on the back drop of lies. Matthew 24:44 was ignored at the time.
Ellen White & Haram Edson, then said there was a "small mistake". The Lord had been in the Holy Place for 1844 years, & was moving to the Holy of Holies, on the 22nd of October 1844. This was yet another lie. But, when Deacon Stephen was being stoned, in the 1st century, Stephen saw the Lord standing at the right side of God, in the Holy of Holies, that's where God’s throne is (Acts 7:55-57).

[@isaacmurambiwa9908]

Zvese zvamurikut untruths or what hapasipo chaipo panenyaya... nyaya chaiyo ndeyemaTeachings avo enhema aAddressewa nemaScriptures...... coz chero mukaziva date rakatanga SDA or mukasaziva.... hazvisirizvo zvinokuitai akaponeswa or asina kuponeswa..... chirikutodiwa pano kupinda mumagwaro chaimo kwakutotanga kuita rubbish "nhema dzevhangeri" (in quotes) dzataurwa naApostle moburitsa pachena kut vanyepa apa neapa... otherwise besides that haaaa... zvingatove nane munyarare otherwise yu're proving to be destitute of the truth

[@tafadzwamubvakure3488]

The self proclaimed apostle does not know the history of the Adventist church.He is critical of a system he doesn't have knowledge about.

[@lucas15mm]

The devil is a liar...

[@carolmusoro4990]

Mwari ngaandipisire mukuchengeta sabata rake not iwe Chiwenga unongo taura zvausinga ziwe.....what's wrong ne mukadzi weku America akasarudzwa na Mwari chakosha pauri iwe mu black Zimbabwean chii just have respect ne vamwe vanhu vamwari uchabvisa vanhu Pana Mwari uchingotaura zvausinga ziwe

[@amangoro]

Ahhh! Why just rant with no reference to a single scripture? Why do you want a fox like Ellen White who was preaching heresies to be respected? Chiwenga is contending for the faith (true gospel) like any believer should do (Jude 1v3). What has blackness have to do with this matter? Pano ndepemagwaro!

[@carolmusoro4990]

@@amangoro muno tuka vanhu hamudi kutukwa kusi kwemagwaro ndekupi

[@amangoro]

@@carolmusoro4990 Please Carol! Be a little organized and respond to questions in my comment above. If you want to tuka me, I'll always respond and point out your error. Sermon has said you stand in grave error by being in SDA. Confront the scriptures raised and tell us why you think the preacher is wrong. Don't just rant my dear.

[@isaacmurambiwa9908]

Inzwaika vatete nyaya iripano...
1. Sabbata harina kumbogara ranzi ribatwe nemaGentiles.
2. Sabata harina kumbodzidziswa vanhu nemunhu asiri muRevhi (a descendant of Levi 3rd born of Jacob)
3. Murairo wacho wese zvawo (of which Sabbath is a part) was done away with

[@carolmusoro4990]

@@isaacmurambiwa9908 I never come across with verse rakazobviswa sabata mitemo yese ndoyatinongo chengeta iyo yesabata ndowega wamakubvisa why?

[@wilsonkwatamanzi5821]

Nice try Mr 'Apostle'. You wasted 1 hour of my time but You failed to give me value in the first hour. Just mockeries and insults.

[@bidzam]

😂😂😂 with the aggression you are messaging unenge wabatwa batwa. It's your choice to carry on in the SDA faith bro, but just know that of all church denominations there you guys are considered extremely lost. You give the Catholic church a run for their money.

[@wilsonkwatamanzi5821]

@@bidzam hahahaa far from it. I am an Adventist by a very informed conviction. But the man has done nothing to convince me of the perceived errors of the Adventist faith. Just falsehoods about the church history and EG White.

[@bidzam]

@@wilsonkwatamanzi5821 are you sure. Maybe you need to do more research about the foundation of your church. Proper research then you might be surprised.

[@calvinmangoma1067]

@@wilsonkwatamanzi5821 since you are convicted by the SDA falsehoods you cannot be convicted by the TRUTH hence you wanted to be convinced of which the truth convicts not convince. Keep it up in thy falsehoods of SDA and thy destiny has been set before the foundation of the worlds (either your time for repentance is not yet come or you are destined for destruction) because SDA is an anti-Christ church.

[@amangoro]

@@wilsonkwatamanzi5821 It's not your fault that you can't be convinced by so many arguments about how SDAs are lost. God himself has given you a strong delusion that you may believe Ellen White's heresies (2Thess 2v10-12). It has nothing to do with being informed. It's God's grace that you need.

[@wilsonkwatamanzi5821]

Its very ingenuous for the 'Apostle" to want to criticise Adventist doctrine whilst at the same time saying it 'is not necessary' to bring their writings to the discussion. But nice try Mr sir, you are a great mockerer.

[@gilbertmkonto3347]

The bible is the ultimate authority when it comes to establishing doctrine. You don't need extra biblical writings.
Whose writings did you want him to bring? The bible is more than enough. 2 Timothy 3:16

[@amangoro]

Mountains of heresy which Ellen White wrote don't count for anything. Just go and burn that stuff. If you have the Bible, you've everything you'll ever need to learn about God.

[@isaacmurambiwa9908]

Mukutaura neshungu baba.... that's all

[@jacobngonidzashe6295]

No one has to insult you from Adventist, you're the one who insults everyone and everything you hate, ...be it Political leaders, like Mugabe, Gen Chiwenga, President Munangagwa, or even church leaders...
According to your self righteousness, you are the only one who is right....lead is to heaven brother, but a time will come , where we will know who worship God and who doesn't.

[@brendachihambakwe1519]

You leaving the real argument and come up with something off shows a low level of sobriety

[@anduerpiopaulo2226]

You claim to be a people who are willing to learn,but in observation in having a discussion with one of your new members whom you have deceived into your church. I noticed that you are not really into learning but convincing people to accept your false views that are not true.

[@dumisaningwenya4136]

Can you prove that they're false views

[@anduerpiopaulo2226]

@@dumisaningwenya4136 Yes by God's grace

[@lorrainchanda6803]

Yowe iwe kadofo nyarara hauna nyaya just coc your wife and Ellen are best friends as we speak

[@tasaratobayiwa9345]

As usual, SDA blind follower driven by hatred but without being backed by scriptures. Read scriptures and repent

[@lorrainchanda6803]

@@tasaratobayiwa9345 iwe mupositori asinga verenge bible

[@nicksonmrewa7671]

You fool prove with scripturesthat he is dull

[@samsonchief2968]

Adventists zvedu we don't listen or acknowledge anything from other churches. We preach Ellen White more than Jesus, read more about white than the bible, taught more about white than scriptures

[@poshochimwala3020]

i don’t know which church you go to but this is not true

[@kudakwashezixouh6691]

What is important is that are they praying God with their srsly heart or what zveDoctrine hakuna anga aripo kuma 1844 ikoko vana varipamusha vakazvara zviripo and hazvinjinjike.

[@calvinmangoma1067]

this ignorance of yours is not okay in all spheres that pertains to spiritual life. why would Jesus himself and Apostles Paul, Peter and John, and Teacher Jude warn about false teachers and false christs. Do not be ignorant and speak it out loud like this, keeping quiet is the best thing that you can do instead of presenting the degree of your foolishness?

[@anywherechimurudze9777]

kudenga hakuendwe nefungidziro yakapusa kudaro hama yangu you are walking away from the truth and expect heaven to be such a walk over

[@thandokhoza1814]

You don't know much about Adventist....

[@patiencemarange7731]

Haaa apa mashaya apostle or whatever you call your name , what are the Foundations of your church, where do they come from , you are always attacking other churches why ,vanokutevera vanopenga you are trying to gain power,to decieve people to follow you neku attacker vamwe ,,,hahaha don't worry soon you will come back ,uchivaudza chokwadi , you don't have light iwe , to tell you the truth you are just fulfilling the the prophecy , teaching people to to run away from the law of God ,munotozvinetsa wo imi , hahaha