14:27 your hyperion has smite vs the blade of dragonfire with sharpness, so it actually could be comparable considering you killed a graveyard zombie and smite is 100% additive damage
the armor, considering how rare it is, should be like fiery crimson but dungeonisable, making it best in dungeons, but leaving crimson best outside, if you add the fact that it's super rare and expensive, i would say it would be balanced. (also, poor ironman, imagine grinding like 1000 eyes, and killing hundreds of dragons to get a set)
and considering the set used to require the crimson isles unlocked and now requires to be a bit further in ci, 1 can tell it is supposed to be crazy strong. also wouldn't ovoids also shoot up in price?
as an ironman I am weeping at this the amount of zealots I'm going to have to kill is in the millions 💀 can't wait for the next 6 months after the update drops to be the most boring time of my life.
seria bueno que se queda tal y como está la armadura, está por encima de la Crimson por qué el end va después del Nether (Crimson), pero en comparación creo que esas fácil de conseguir la primal
necron and goldor have been meta for their respective classes for 2+ years at this point, along with this, primal dragon armor will legit cost billions because of how rare it is, and how expensive it is to use awakened eyes.
i doubt itll be billions the second the update drops everyone will be in the end spawning and leeching drags which will bring alot of primal frags and pieces very fast into the economy
@@thecolorblue7427 Basically the entire active playerbase has a nw above a billion coins, most in the 2-3 range without a hyp but with an overall balanced profile with good stuff for multiple aspects of the game. With the set being this good, all of those players would just liquidate all those different setups and easily be able to buy this single setup which outclasses all of them, possibly even being able to afford a weapons upgrade too.
@@velqt but what does that say about your first comment? if the majority of players have networth around 2-3 with an overall balanced profile, that would mean billions are very much not useless at this point, because in your own words, only 1 billion would make up around 50-33% of the majority playerbases networth
People actually overestimate the primal dragon armor, like yes its better but only after the 3rd milestone, and most people are barely in the double digit counter... Doing some noob lvl math- Considering a player getting this armor has 100 kills, it would mean the health hypermaxed chest piece in dungeon at cata 50 would be roughly 3.4k, while hypermaxed necron chest piece gives roughly 3.6k health, simmilarly for damage unless a player crosses the 1k mark this armor set is not worth it.
my friend on alpha legit tested and it was still better with only 180 kills by better i mean better than necron better than goldor in doungens and outside while giving a shit ton of mf also what kind of math did you do as its just plain wrong my friend got double hp than his goldor in doungens btw before nerf but the nerf did nothing
crimson still better cuz attributes and ability. it will just be meta for mf and dungeons. but i dont think it should be meta for mf. they should lower the mf and add pet luck
but the necrotic reforge and wisdom account for most of the intel anyway and u need to balance intel with str and cd for max lcm damage. @@theorphanobliterator
@@funky555 nah even if you took away the defense you could still get like 100 defense just from potato books and protection double that thats 200 defense and on top of that the stars which give a stat boost so it'd still be on par with necron
One thing you have to remember too tho, is that infernal crimson has the swipe ability. So even tho 10k kills primal does "more damage" crimson is going to be doing WAY more dps still, same with terror and terminator. Kuudra sets are still on top. The ehp tho is ridiculous lmao. Because the ehp being actually better than fervor is actually stupid. Same with the magic find being better than clover helm. Imo the damage is fine, but the ehp and mf needs a bit of a nerf.
10k dragon kills, lets say you place 4 so 4m per dragon (1m per eye) will cost 40b coins + the estimated 4-6b for the clean armor set and you hypermax it + random things will make this set cost around 50b coins so it needs to be op
wrong. u dont need to do 10k primal dragons to max out the bonus damage. the 4-6b accounts for the cost of awakened eyes for the full primal set, and the 40b accounts for the cost of regular eyes to kill 10 thousand dragons. looks like u cant read. @@theorphanobliterator
Hey sir you seem to forget that dragons was profitable for over 1 year I made like 5b profit on dragons it was insane. There is no money loss when u drop pet every 96 drag on average
I think they should drop magic find, and give pet luck instead as that would make sense for getting edrag especially with the new mythic. Then drop either damage or ehp, both would make sense. Best dragon so you get best damage as its a combat based game, OR make best ehp set as primal drag has so much more that would also make a lot of sense. (Another kinda random idea, make the % buff max at 100% at 100k kills as it would look super clean and makes more sense then the current)
@trulyforce6620 100k is too much even if it made profit. If you do 20 dragons an hour which is about as fast as its possible to get thats 5000 hours solidly just killing dragons at maximum efficiency. You really think that's REMOTELY reasonable?
Swavy u can easily max kuudra sets on alpha if it’s not in museum since u can dupe and then salvage. I get 15* aurora, crimson, and terror every time the alpha server opens. Just in case u wanna test something like with that fervor armor again
I’ve had to take a break from this game for so long and now there’s so much new stuff I dunno if returning on my old save or using a new save would be more fun.
Maybe instead do exponential increase to cap at 120% bonus, like in this order: +10, +15, +25, +30, +40 p, so it encouraged dragons more, although the last one being 25 or 50k would be easier to get.
No bro we want majic find i know its gonna ur investments on crimson but its up to you why u destroying other people experience like the new one to join hypixel or like who dont have majic find crimson and also that armor is more expensive than Crimson so ya its make sense to be op
Yo Mr Swavy how tf did you know it was my birthday. you posted this on my birthday and the video ends with "Happy birthday" ay nah are you stalking me? at least gimme a few billion on SB as a birthday present first
I will take 208 irl days just spawning and killing the dragon or like 5000h if u have 3 minutes per dragon fight but then u need also time to get the eyes....
yeah but guys we all know that thirtyvirus is going to get the full set on ironman quicker than anyone else can just through his dam luck with rng drops
hopefully primal dragon armor isnt dungeonizable or is at least co op soul bound. this gon make all dungeon sets useless literally if it can be dungeonized
I feel like this set should be double as good as necron (not goldor or infernal crim)... bcz like u said each finna cost 1b... 500m most likely after couple weeks/months. And its fun having smthg stronger than necron bcz its getting boring
It’s gonna be so much more expensive than that cause everyone’s gonna be killing dragons, and while you’re killing dragons, ZEALOTS CANNOT SPAWN, which means no new summoning eyes, which makes so much more competition for them, which is gonna drive the price up even MORE Thank you Hypixel
So it'd be a 1.5% chance for a primal dragon every time you place awakened eyes and assuming you place 4 each time, you would need 32 regular eyes, each of which goes for around 2.2m right now, so 70m every spawn or over 4 bil for a guranteed Primal Dragon, yay
Anyone else see the pet changes and think "FINALLY A PHOENIX REWORK' and then nothing..... ive been holding onto ice phoenix skins for soooo long just waiting for the buff.....
you also have to consider the time and money that goes into doing the actual dragons, if you placed by yourself 10000 dragons it would cost roughly 10b to do those dragons
If eyes are 1.2m and assuming you get average drop rates the set will cost around 3b to obtain (not including profit made back from e drags and other things)
It'd make sense for this armour set to have better EHP than goldor since primal humans were very tough altough better damage than necron inside and hypermaxed crimson outside of dungeons is NOT okay. Edit: Negative intelligence? Like imagine mages running around with primal armour dealing 10 quadrillion damage with their term and dealing pretty good damage with a hype aswell
I think a good way to balance it is to generally reduce most of the stats not by a lot but by a bit. Also give it negative int and remove the magic find
You do realize that at current prices, getting the chance to spawn this dragons will cost like 96m. And after spending that much you still only have a ~1-2% chance for the dragon. And on top of that you can still get fragged or drop the sword which is probably worth significantly less. Yes of course the price will go down, but not a whole bunch of players can actually do a lot of those dragons, especially once prices of summoning eyes rise due to more people spending money on them
@@_drako_1647 and it will cost 700m per summon if you place 8 so it you avr 1 primal evbery 5 summon then thats ganna cost you 2.1b if you manage to get every piece (not counting low dmg, dupes,) and you just go off frags thats still alot like 10.5b if you just get 16 frag every primal
CODE: "swavy" IN THE HYPIXEL STORE. (store.hypixel.net)
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dont use the LORD's name in vain swavy!
Bet
@@zynfaldewell ackshually lord or god is simply a title 🤓☝️
Imagine them releasing baby drsgon helmet skin for this set. It would go crazy.
Let him cook!🔥
14:27 your hyperion has smite vs the blade of dragonfire with sharpness, so it actually could be comparable considering you killed a graveyard zombie and smite is 100% additive damage
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100% additive means its prob like 1m not
1.4 lol
the armor, considering how rare it is, should be like fiery crimson but dungeonisable, making it best in dungeons, but leaving crimson best outside, if you add the fact that it's super rare and expensive, i would say it would be balanced. (also, poor ironman, imagine grinding like 1000 eyes, and killing hundreds of dragons to get a set)
Damn rewatching this makes me remember how sick the update is
Sad that it got delayed that much
and considering the set used to require the crimson isles unlocked and now requires to be a bit further in ci, 1 can tell it is supposed to be crazy strong. also wouldn't ovoids also shoot up in price?
man getting 11k drag kills was my best investment on sb lmfao
Anyone else thinking about investing in summoning eyes or null avoids before the update?
as an ironman I am weeping at this
the amount of zealots I'm going to have to kill is in the millions 💀
can't wait for the next 6 months after the update drops to be the most boring time of my life.
for poor ppl does 2/4 terror and dmg set (werwolf sa crimson) and tiger pet (epic) work to do some dmg on drags with a juju?
seria bueno que se queda tal y como está la armadura, está por encima de la Crimson por qué el end va después del Nether (Crimson), pero en comparación creo que esas fácil de conseguir la primal
There is no need for this armor, crimson best outside, necrom best inside, that’s a good setup
I belive because of this there gonna add new dungeon content
My smartphone falls to the ground and i hope its not cracked
My phone:
I feel like primal dragons need to come more often, but the armor set should get nerfed, so that its better than necron ( only outside dungeons )
1.5% to get a primal but you need to place for like 100m coins each times
necron and goldor have been meta for their respective classes for 2+ years at this point, along with this, primal dragon armor will legit cost billions because of how rare it is, and how expensive it is to use awakened eyes.
Billions are literally worthless at this point
You say that as if 80% of the player base doesn’t even have a 1b coin networth
i doubt itll be billions the second the update drops everyone will be in the end spawning and leeching drags which will bring alot of primal frags and pieces very fast into the economy
@@thecolorblue7427 Basically the entire active playerbase has a nw above a billion coins, most in the 2-3 range without a hyp but with an overall balanced profile with good stuff for multiple aspects of the game. With the set being this good, all of those players would just liquidate all those different setups and easily be able to buy this single setup which outclasses all of them, possibly even being able to afford a weapons upgrade too.
@@velqt but what does that say about your first comment? if the majority of players have networth around 2-3 with an overall balanced profile, that would mean billions are very much not useless at this point, because in your own words, only 1 billion would make up around 50-33% of the majority playerbases networth
Maybe you should go for 100k dragon kills?
1.5-2 years from now people will hit 100k dragon kills and we will see the full potentioal of this armor set
Sarite has like 70k kills or something but he sadly quit
Man, I'm glad I watched this video, I didn't know the new armor was so cracked 😂
New dungeons meta for armor
Diamond head
Skeleton master cp
Primal dragon leggings
Maxor boots
Yikes
the armor is way too strong for the current monster / boss / miniboss in the game... it just make the game even easier
People actually overestimate the primal dragon armor, like yes its better but only after the 3rd milestone, and most people are barely in the double digit counter...
Doing some noob lvl math- Considering a player getting this armor has 100 kills, it would mean the health hypermaxed chest piece in dungeon at cata 50 would be roughly 3.4k, while hypermaxed necron chest piece gives roughly 3.6k health, simmilarly for damage unless a player crosses the 1k mark this armor set is not worth it.
my friend on alpha legit tested and it was still better with only 180 kills by better i mean better than necron better than goldor in doungens and outside while giving a shit ton of mf also what kind of math did you do as its just plain wrong my friend got double hp than his goldor in doungens btw before nerf but the nerf did nothing
with the new update 1000 dragons is easy asf
3 per fight? with a 15% chance for 9-15
yay today is my uncle's birthday :D
Making the new best armour set be from an addition to a 4 year old system is really underwhelming
crimson still better cuz attributes and ability. it will just be meta for mf and dungeons. but i dont think it should be meta for mf. they should lower the mf and add pet luck
cries in ironman
no chance this rolls out
fun fact: primal is actually better for lcm aswell in dungeons
is this verified? it has poopy Intel
but the necrotic reforge and wisdom account for most of the intel anyway and u need to balance intel with str and cd for max lcm damage. @@theorphanobliterator
@@theorphanobliterator mf boosts strength on gdrag and it gives a shit ton of cd
@@West12684 oh I forgot about that 💀
I can't wait baby skin on new primal set😅
Ofc I quit and they update skyblock
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Well the ironman grinds gonna be fun
At least you will get to 10k dragon kills so it will be extra good
Magic find should be changed to petluck ngl, we dont have a petluck set yet and it makes sense since drag pets youd want petluck
Or just get rid of the sets defense if its going to stay with good MF
@@funky555 nah even if you took away the defense you could still get like 100 defense just from potato books and protection double that thats 200 defense and on top of that the stars which give a stat boost so it'd still be on par with necron
cant wait for refraction to make a video about this. but he's gone :(
he's not gone tho 😂😂
@@terriffingtea he is
Whats up with fefraction tho?
Yeah where tf did my boy go
Wait what happened
One thing you have to remember too tho, is that infernal crimson has the swipe ability. So even tho 10k kills primal does "more damage" crimson is going to be doing WAY more dps still, same with terror and terminator. Kuudra sets are still on top.
The ehp tho is ridiculous lmao. Because the ehp being actually better than fervor is actually stupid. Same with the magic find being better than clover helm. Imo the damage is fine, but the ehp and mf needs a bit of a nerf.
with these stats they should make it the first basic mithic set with the ability to recom to divine
This calls the return of first place frags lol
10k dragon kills, lets say you place 4 so 4m per dragon (1m per eye) will cost 40b coins + the estimated 4-6b for the clean armor set and you hypermax it + random things will make this set cost around 50b coins so it needs to be op
leeching dragons exist
not 4m per dragon. you can't do math ig. you need 8 eyes got each awakened eye. it's 32m per dragon if you place 4
wrong. u dont need to do 10k primal dragons to max out the bonus damage. the 4-6b accounts for the cost of awakened eyes for the full primal set, and the 40b accounts for the cost of regular eyes to kill 10 thousand dragons. looks like u cant read. @@theorphanobliterator
Hey sir you seem to forget that dragons was profitable for over 1 year I made like 5b profit on dragons it was insane. There is no money loss when u drop pet every 96 drag on average
@@theorphanobliterator In this calc its for just normal dragon kills
I dropped a Scatha while watching this video 👍
The Admins went CRAZY with this one
I think they should drop magic find, and give pet luck instead as that would make sense for getting edrag especially with the new mythic. Then drop either damage or ehp, both would make sense. Best dragon so you get best damage as its a combat based game, OR make best ehp set as primal drag has so much more that would also make a lot of sense. (Another kinda random idea, make the % buff max at 100% at 100k kills as it would look super clean and makes more sense then the current)
I mean primal humans were tough right? So it'd make sense for it to be a good armor set for health.
100k is way too much (400b if u place 4 eyes each time)
@@lawsong6663and then u should consider the amount u make back from dragons bro
@trulyforce6620 100k is too much even if it made profit. If you do 20 dragons an hour which is about as fast as its possible to get thats 5000 hours solidly just killing dragons at maximum efficiency. You really think that's REMOTELY reasonable?
@trulyforce6620 to put that into even greater perspective thats over 13 hours every day for an entire year
Swavy u can easily max kuudra sets on alpha if it’s not in museum since u can dupe and then salvage. I get 15* aurora, crimson, and terror every time the alpha server opens. Just in case u wanna test something like with that fervor armor again
Well this aged well
Swavy:Lets spent 3b coins to an armour to became nerf
And be worse than cheaper sets
brother how can one person be this terrible at english
@@Necron_ his English isn't that bad, it's understandable.
@@OrdenTheManhe said "armour" meaning hes british, so yes hes very bad
@@noah-kx6gzblud is discriminating british people 💀
youre disgusting @@noah-kx6gz
I’ve had to take a break from this game for so long and now there’s so much new stuff I dunno if returning on my old save or using a new save would be more fun.
Maybe instead do exponential increase to cap at 120% bonus, like in this order:
+10, +15, +25, +30, +40 p, so it encouraged dragons more, although the last one being 25 or 50k would be easier to get.
i knew this would happen sold both my dragon pets!!! lets gooo now im doing voids for eyes since there 2.5m right now
o7 Minikloon
I feel like the best dungeon set should come from dungeons.
Swavy if you heart this comment you will get a free rat pet + 5m (and can i have a ftiend request lol) IGN - itsmrprocraft
No bro we want majic find i know its gonna ur investments on crimson but its up to you why u destroying other people experience like the new one to join hypixel or like who dont have majic find crimson and also that armor is more expensive than Crimson so ya its make sense to be op
Damn swavy I watched your videos when you had only a few hundred subs, glad to see you have grown so much!
Yo Mr Swavy how tf did you know it was my birthday. you posted this on my birthday and the video ends with "Happy birthday" ay nah are you stalking me? at least gimme a few billion on SB as a birthday present first
I will take 208 irl days just spawning and killing the dragon or like 5000h if u have 3 minutes per dragon fight but then u need also time to get the eyes....
yeah but guys we all know that thirtyvirus is going to get the full set on ironman quicker than anyone else can just through his dam luck with rng drops
hopefully primal dragon armor isnt dungeonizable or is at least co op soul bound. this gon make all dungeon sets useless literally if it can be dungeonized
I think the armour is joke bcoz April is close hypixel is just playing with our feelings 😢
Honestly im saying that they nerf it slightly. I feel like theres gunna be some huge update in the future that you will need armor this good for
FINALLY a youtuber understanding how stupid this update is and how bad they need to nerf it
if it makes it to the main server like this, I swear to God, I’m quitting. Also minikloon left
to be fair everyone wil prob keep using necron since noone has 10k kills and its way to expensive
i am putting my mouse on the table one piece of this set will be 175-200m or more
I feel like this set should be double as good as necron (not goldor or infernal crim)... bcz like u said each finna cost 1b... 500m most likely after couple weeks/months. And its fun having smthg stronger than necron bcz its getting boring
its a dragon set they should not be close to necron in doungens and should not be the best outside and should not give soo fucking much mf
14:27 why such little damage with hyperion?
Did they scrap this? Coz eyes are at 1m and 4 months later it’s not out
I’m mage so obviously I’m going to get it for the magic find
I think it should be nerfed a little bit not 2x better than necron maybe 1.5x or sum because 10k dragon kills is crazy
But I hope it won't be nerfed too much eather
Obviously they should just power creep goldor.
But considering the price, maybe it makes sense it the best in the game
no, since its better than more expensive sets, without even combining the price.
It’s gonna be so much more expensive than that cause everyone’s gonna be killing dragons, and while you’re killing dragons, ZEALOTS CANNOT SPAWN, which means no new summoning eyes, which makes so much more competition for them, which is gonna drive the price up even MORE
Thank you Hypixel
So it'd be a 1.5% chance for a primal dragon every time you place awakened eyes and assuming you place 4 each time, you would need 32 regular eyes, each of which goes for around 2.2m right now, so 70m every spawn or over 4 bil for a guranteed Primal Dragon, yay
Anyone else see the pet changes and think "FINALLY A PHOENIX REWORK' and then nothing..... ive been holding onto ice phoenix skins for soooo long just waiting for the buff.....
This is cool but by the time most people get it it’ll be out of date
it is actually impossible to play this game casually oh my god
if u reforge it giant u can have 6m ehp in dungeons 💀
Swavy wasn’t actually annoying this video
btw guys what happened to refraction?
My hope that the lonely adventurer will be a mayor
you also have to consider the time and money that goes into doing the actual dragons, if you placed by yourself 10000 dragons it would cost roughly 10b to do those dragons
the biggest problem with the update is no summoning eyes for Ironman players I guess. The lobbies are filled with so many people camping zelots
If eyes are 1.2m and assuming you get average drop rates the set will cost around 3b to obtain (not including profit made back from e drags and other things)
whats your texture pack i really need it
Put necrotic or loving on it
The admins did a oopsie boopsy
One suggestion I saw was to replace the mf with pet luck, making primal give no mf but still good for things like dragons
Nah dont nerf i is like 30b Per set
0.15 for primal I THINK.
10,000k dragons?? no person has that much money or time to waste that much of their life.
This begs the question of if it drops recombed can you autorecomb to divine like in dungeons?
ngl the magic find should be changed to pet luck, to make sorrow/crimosn not completely useless
It'd make sense for this armour set to have better EHP than goldor since primal humans were very tough altough better damage than necron inside and hypermaxed crimson outside of dungeons is NOT okay.
Edit: Negative intelligence? Like imagine mages running around with primal armour dealing 10 quadrillion damage with their term and dealing pretty good damage with a hype aswell
it doesn't have better damage than hypermax crimson because it doesn't have the swipe
@@TeamFortressTwoGaming voidglooms is like the only use for swipe anyways and eman 9 is piss easy to get
Still the base damage is disgusting especially considering maxed crimson is a coupple billions@@TeamFortressTwoGaming
@@ItzShigekothis is gonna be a couple mil too, on average it will cost you 1.8b for every god mode spawn so its prolly gonna cost 2.5-3b
tbh swavy is right, necron sold be phased out. it's boring
I think a good way to balance it is to generally reduce most of the stats not by a lot but by a bit.
Also give it negative int and remove the magic find
not them being at 2.5m per eye before update but pll are saying it could go up to 5-10m
Wait I’m in the video lol 8:09
the price of other armor will go down as so many mor ppl will do dragons now
You do realize that at current prices, getting the chance to spawn this dragons will cost like 96m. And after spending that much you still only have a ~1-2% chance for the dragon. And on top of that you can still get fragged or drop the sword which is probably worth significantly less. Yes of course the price will go down, but not a whole bunch of players can actually do a lot of those dragons, especially once prices of summoning eyes rise due to more people spending money on them
no really,the update is not even out and the price of eye is 2.5m,each piece will cost ~1.5b so not a lot of people will have this set
if the price of summoing eye will go up than more ppl will grind zealots so it will come back to normal soon @@_drako_1647
@@_drako_1647 and it will cost 700m per summon if you place 8 so it you avr 1 primal evbery 5 summon then thats ganna cost you 2.1b if you manage to get every piece (not counting low dmg, dupes,) and you just go off frags thats still alot like 10.5b if you just get 16 frag every primal
@@MukimHossain-e7d 700m per summon? did you just not do math?
even if you're doing it based off 9m per eye its only 576m
Hot take:
Petlock E drag
Do some kuudra with it
Iron mana after the update