Could you number the stoves (or anything you put in the description)? It's hard to find which stove I want in your list as it seems to be completely random. Thanks. Edit: please also add matching numbers in the video.
@@kennethmathe8969 Same. Except I had to re-watch 3 times and turn on subtitles before I figured it out. Subtitles said "virus stove." Hence the request to make things clearer for us. Several gear round ups could also use numbers. A couple of times I couldn't find the gear I was interested in and just gave up.
Firebox stoves, they also do all the things (solid fuel, alcohol, Swedish torch, stick, gas. Stainless construction or titanium, no assembly required, folds flat.
Have used the Kelly kettle for decades. The kettle whistles when it's ready, you can use frying pans/saucepans to cook a meal. Haven't taken it hiking but use it all the time to boil water if the power is out or just for an early morning cuppa outside. The Irish Kelly Kettle doesn't use a rubber bung but a metal cap which Whistles when the water boils, and has done for decades. Ours is coming up for twenty years old now and has the the metal cap and whistle, plus the hole in the base is bigger to feed in bigger pieces of wood, we often use peat if we're cooking breakfast as well as boiling water for a cuppa. From Ireland
I personally own the VIRE stove for about half a year now and it is as good as it gets, we used it about 15-20 times and still feels like new!!! I fully agree with every word you said, changed our outdoor cooking experience (before I was using gas) for good. Highly recommended!! edited for spelling
I have that same little folding 'Chinese' stove, got it about 25 years ago from a random catalog for around $6.00, it's comparatively heavy but has been surprisingly durable
I’ve been making (and collecting) “survival” kits for over 35 years now, and have quite a few. I’ve have recently started collecting stoves for my kits. Have always used the basic canteen cup stove, and I still like it a lot. But of all the stoves I’ve put in my kits, I keep the Emberlit Fireant in my bag.
I carry a fire ant in my day pack. I carry it year round but I originally got it for Nordic skiing because its hard to build a fire when there is 5 to 10 feet of snow. I can put it on a rock, piece of bark etc.
NOW, the Kelly Kettle has a new stopper that is green (and is standard on all the new models) that whistles when the water starts to boil. Another new improvement is the folding pot holder that fits on top of the kettle OR under the fire pan to keep it stable on uneven terrain or to protect the surface from heat that you would normally place the firepan on, like a picnic table.
That’s a good collection of wood burners! Personally my favorite stove system is the trangia 25 duossal. It can run alcohol, butane, with an accessory burner as well as gasoline or kerosene with a different accessory burner. It’s an absolutely solid cook system that can be configured for lots of different situations from small to medium groups.
Another plus one for Firebox! Amazing little stove, well thought out and built to last. Both versions. And their people (shout out to Steve and the CS folks!) are just stellar. I will never go back!
I have that little no-name stove you showed. It works well enough. I recently invested in a kelly kettle base camp in stainless. They now come with a whistle stopper. It can operate well enough with an alcohol stove or the tabs. I even got a gel fuel pan for it. I haven't used it except to test it but I will soon enough. Thanks for the great vid and info.
Chris, thanks for including my stove on the table. Good feedback on some improvements I can make and features that can be added. The flat-pack Vyre Stove is pretty amazing. Some incredible engineering to get that in one piece. Wow! Loved the set for the video too. Perfect visuals in the background. Keep up the good work.
Firebox, both versions. My Ti Nano never leaves my truck kit, so I have it no matter what. I also bought a Soto Windmaster last year and I am really digging it too.
The MSR Whisperlite International is the best stove for the serious survivalist. This legendary, multi-fuel backpacking stove burns white gas, kerosene, and unleaded auto fuel, so you'll be able to siphon gas from abandoned cars to run your stove post-TEOTWAWKI. The stove is incredibly reliable and can be cleaned, maintained, and repaired in the field.
@The Kraken Yes, most local retail stores that carry camping goods will likely have the replacemnt parts kit, it around 14.99- 20.99 depending on where you look
I 100% agree with you, i have an original whisperlite with the self cleaning jet nozzle, that thing is a trooper for sure winter temps dont even really slow it down since gasoline doesnt freeze unless youre like -30degrees. Though i suspect it would work even in a blizzard at the north pole or southpole.
I got my whisperlite 20yrs ago and bought the service kit at the time. Ive used it heaps over the years and it still runs like the first day. The only thing Ive had to replace was an oring on the pump.
I've got an msr copy and would second it as an excellent choice provided you have/find flammable liquid you're pretty much good to go. For a survival situation I'd also have my folding pocket stove as a solid fuel option too. Allows you to have the best of both worlds and conserve liquid fuel for when either the weather is against me or there's no solid fuel.
I have a Kelly kettle and a gasifier... The hobo stove from my kelly kettle fits my gasifier perfectly... I didn't like the instability of my gasifier... That little springy thing is slippery. But the hobo stove attatchment has completely transformed it. Thanks for the review 👍
I love this simplistic and comprehensive viewing of all of these products, this is one of the best hiking and camping stove reviews I've ever seen, definitely keeping this video in mind for future reference. Real good job.
Can you do a video about what you would do if you got serious injuries in survival situations? Broken bones, burns, cuts etc? I think that would be very beneficial and informative. Or even survival simulations like lets say you started with a broken leg, what should you do?
My favorite bomb proof stoves are msr xgk ex and my firebox stove for its versatility and being so robust. I can even put the xgk inside the firebox if I need to use it as a windscreen, also it can use all the alcohol stoves and works great with sternos just raise or lower where it sits for more/less heat. For cleaning soot off, my two ways are throw a little soap on the burn areas before cooking as it helps when you wipe it down or use aluminum foil crunched up cleans it like new.
Why not just purchase one like the rest of us and test it. You don't need to have a business relationship with them do you. Nor Steve's permission to do a video or demo of it.
you can get a hold Of Steve and maybe he could give you a break the fire box is the best fold up there is or as others said buy one then if you dont like it you can sell it on gear trade and get your money back
For me I love the sterno inferno. Uses gel fuel I can get 2 tins to fit inside this will literally give you weeks of usage. Very efficient and lightweight
Thank you!! I've wanted to see several of these. This really helped!! I also suggest you try the Firebox stove/grill and the Firebox nano. Very very durable. Both offered in titanium as well.
I had the jetboil. Worked great in no wind. When the wind kicked up it went out. I returned it and grabbed an MSR windburner. More efficient than the jetboil. Boils faster and is more consistent in my testing. Also stayed lit in the wind.
Good list of stoves to look into. Am very impressed with a few of them. However, you should have included the stoves from Firebox, the Nano, Double Nano and the 5 " in both stainless steel and titanium.
@@DropForgedSurvival OK, saw your reply above. You say that the Firebox stoves are OK in your opinion, but have you really tried them? If you haven’t, I think that this video misses the mark. Buy a Nano and the 5” Firebox. These will probably cause you to re-think your recommendations. #fireboxstove
Love my UCO Flat Mini (thanks for showing me that one!) and I've modded my Lixada to use Hex and alcohol along with the wood and made a cross piece out of an old Coleman stove that stopped working. Thanks for sharing bro!
the alcohol burner with a windscreen/cookset. It is a Trekmate, a smaller, less expensive version of the Trangia set. It surprises me all the time. Coddling the hot alcohol flame is the secret. I can boil & simmer, fry, and bake. LOL- my home made small rocket stove is next, though. ;)
Im looking into the Titanium Burners... But alcohol is incredibly inefficient if you plan on more than 7 Days... You need a Liter Bottle of Fuel, Pour 2oz of Fuel Minimum if you are doing more than simple boiling per meal. Ill take the twigs in most cases but a few solid cubes or a canister Stove like the Pocket Rocket or MightyMo since the Fuel lasts ALOT longer. But for shorter Trips... Absolutely ZERO things wrong at all with Alcohol Stoves.
The kelly kettle I purchased recently is the same size as that one you show here. Its called the 'scout' and it has a whistle and a pot stand that can go on top. I'm very impressed how quickly it worked and the fuel was free. Kelly Kettle also do a smaller model called the trecker which I would love to get for solo adventures. I also recently purchased an amazing small solar cooker called the Gosun Go which I'm waiting to arrive. I think it will be a great contender for fire ban situations. It can boil or bake using no flame and no fuel but the sunshine.
I'm definitely a fan of my lixada folding stove. Simple and gets the job done. Got two and had them for around 1-2 years. No warping so far, one is titanium and the other is stainless. For fuel I've used Alcohol (trangia), hexamine or wood/leaves/brush etc all work well. Alcohol is a great fallback fuel for when the elements are against you. My personal favourite is to use pinecones for a solid burn and even as a small camp fire it is really pleasant to have. These easily fit in my back pocket with two lighters and a decent legnth of jute twine in the pouch. I've been able to cook for two from scratch no problem on mine using my 750ml titanium pot/cup. I also have an msr style multifuel stove that works on pretty much any flammable liquid and ordinary camping gas. Pretty solid and dependable overall.
So many good options. When I was young and where I come from, we used what we had. I remember using grills from old refrigerators. Maybe that's why I'm partial to the modern grills.
Many areas ban open flames entirely, when fire danger is high. It matters not of wood, tablet or liquid fuels. I have not seen a ban affecting wood fire only for decades. Thanks for the video, makes me want to get out more.
One thing you missed on the Kelley- you can fill it with water and the rubber cork holds it - the gillie cant . Also bought the new whistle plug. Great review.
I can’t go past my Trangia which has been serving me well for 35 years. Very simple, true all weather capability, and can be used in a total fire ban (important in Australia). Not the lightest or most efficient, but will work every time regardless.
For the Kettle style stoves, I have learned using my Kelly Kettle to get it off the fire without torching your hand is to use both hands and grab the bail handle, hold it 90° from the chimney (or level with the ground) and lift the kettle off the fire with it held that way. No more scorched fingers! And I think the bottle plug on the Kelly is more to keep bugs and trash out and to secure the water while carrying the thing around. I never leave mine plugged when on the fire because when you hit a boil, it will violently blow the plug out along with a large quantity of boiling water.
Super complete and great explanations of why or when to use each type. We've been looking at stoves for some time (using our jetfoil for now) and this was sooo helpful!
I do like the Kelly kettle, I've had a brew from burning a discarded pizza box in the past. I like the way you can burn just about anything you find, and you don't need much of it.
trangia was my mess kit stove in my backpacking days... still have most of it and use it in the RV with a Coleman two burner propane stove . which , I admit , is no back pack stove but does fold up nicely . we have a little ecco [I think ] bbq that folds up very small if not exactly a featherweight. it burns wood as well as briquets.
I make sets of penny can burners to use with alcohol or gels like sterno for a clean fuel. Then convert steel coffee cans into stove and oven sets. They use the penny cans or slope feed wood and never fail to work. So whenever needed it isn't actually an open flame. The best thing is they get stolen from me more often than damaged. So each set is done from memory. Knowledge is the best tool humans can survive on. ( - ;
Last year I got the UCO Flatpack Mini and am absolutely in love with it. I have a few luxida ones but I can't say I am in love with em to much. Haha. That Vire stove looks amazing though. Would love to try it out. Thank you for the video. So many options!
I brought a cheap charcoal rotisserie from Bunnings (a store here in Australia) and i use the grill from that when 4wding. It's perfect but it is a little too big for a backpack. Will definitely look at the fire ant. Thanks Chris. Keep up the good work
You really need to check out Firebox stove. The mini will be right up your alley if your impressed with the Emberlit Fireant. I was actually surprised it wasn't in the list.
I bought a Bio Lite stove at Cabela's. It somehow uses the fire to create electricity and powers a light that shines on the cook area, and you can charge your phone, too. I haven't used it yet.
Alcohol stove: Vargo Triad. The out-of-production model. It's not very fast, but it's efficient, it heads 2x the amount of water as my Evernew for the same amount of fuel. Twig stove: Lixada Titanium clone of Uberleben Stoker. Folds flat. Lightweight. Burns fast & hot.
Just a bit of info to be passed on for everyone. In reference to the Lixada stove, which i own. The top opening is a bit wide. Expedition Research makes a 2 pack grill grate kit. The 5x5 grate fits perfectly on the top of the Lixada. You still have to balance your cook ware or cup but it is a cheap answer and works well. Thanks.
Interesting collection and review but I think a few oversights. I’d agree that the trangia meth/alcohol burner is convenient and compact, and yes the jetboil is fast but as you point out the gas canisters are a limiting factor for longer treks. So, what’s missing? Fireboxes, there’s one that is very well made, it’s made so it folds flat but already all four sides already connected, also holds meths cooker too. I’m ex military, so the ezbit fuel tablets are an obvious go to, but for non military treks the Coleman sportster multi fuel cooker. All weathers, very economical with fuel, and solid cooking base for small to large pots. Not lightweight, but worth carrying, easy to use and control safely.
Optimus SVEA. Nearly 100 years old. One moving part. Works on petrol that you can find anywhere. Solidly built. Not particularly heavy or big compared to more modern stoves. Not too expensive given the quality. Quite efficient.
Check out Firebox Stoves! The Nano is amazing, versatile and efficient! I have both sizes the 5 inch is certainly heavier. Great for a base camp and serious cast iron cooking. Happy trails!
for gas/ liquid fuel type stove, I have the Primus Omni fuel, because you can use multiple liquid and gas fuels. I use with Aspen 4, unleaded fuel, great little stove.
You should revisit gasifier/Ohuhu stoves. My absolute fav, when you pack them right they will give a no-smoke clean burn for over an hour without any refueling.
Same. I'm STILL rocking the Gas One version of the Ohuhu. Identical stoves. I can run sticks, chips, pellets, alcohol, Esbit tabs, gel, etc. If I need more wood before the food is done, just lift the pot off and toss more in. Takes 5 seconds. If you're running a big pan, you can't really feed a side chute like the Solo stove anyways. Paid $16 for it and worth every penny. I rarely use any of my jet burner stoves, hobo stove, or even campfire.
I have the uberleben and couldn't be happier with it. Well maybe if it was titanium lol, but I've been using it for 3 years now in Northern Ontario throughout all 4 seasons and its served me well
I love my Kelly Kettle.. I know it ways 2.5 lbs BUT... I can boil 3/4 gal. of water in about 5 mins. with twigs and sticks. I think that is awesome! I won't leave home without it.
i have a core4. it's a little expensive, but breaks down flat and is very adaptable. change from three sided ultra lite configuration to a four sided gassifier. it holds a 8 inch iron skillet very easily, feeds from the side, and can use a alcohol burner. takes a minute to set up, but works fine for me. lite and compact. have you seen or used one? i recommend highly.
I got the aluminum Kelly kettle from my girlfriend for Christmas, and it is wicked. Fairly lightweight, but bulky, i keep a scrub pad to clean soot from the inside so i can store shit in the bottom of it.
I've had a honey stove for camping / fishing, pack's flat (8 pieces) , takes wood, charcoal, & meths. I use it every fishing trip in the winter down the beach
Nice once again. I've started taking baby steps in that my wife and I are camping on our deck this week while I am on vacation.Its very interesting with two GSD on the deck in the backyard. But we need to start somewhere! (OUTSIDE MY MILITARY SERVICE BEING MADE TO DO IT IN THE JUNGLE.) . Hey its a start outside of my military service). When will you do another live Q&A with an advanced announcement fr the dates? I hope YT allows for the notification ahead of time.
8:05 This exact unnamed twig stove was offered at Bass Pro Shops in about 1986, my sophomore year in high school. I know this because I bought one on clearance, not knowing a thing about twig burners or portable stoves. Fast forward 37 years and it's still proudly in my collection.
No stove gives you the perfect balance between portability and performances like the VIRE !! I’ve been using mine for over a year now for both camping and hiking!! I Highly recommend it!
Thanks for the overview, nicely done! I love my Lixada. While you mention the price difference between the Lixada and titanium FireAnt, it's a HUGE difference for many people. I can buy 4 or 5 stainless Lixadas for the price of a single titanium FireAnt. Even in SS, I could buy a couple of Lixadas for the price of a FireAnt. Anything the FireAnt can use to burn, my Lixada can do too. Haven't had any problems with warping with the SS, although I mainly use it for my Alocs alcohol stove (Trangia knockoff). Granted, the titanium FireAnt is considerably lighter than the SS Lixada, but few extra ounces of the Lixada isn't enough to outweigh the price difference for me. The only real difference is the size of the opening on top as you mentioned, the Lixada's is too large for the Glacier or GSI cup(or Walmart knockoff). But I've seen (and used) three different hacks to solve the problem - one using a cut-up wire coat hanger, another using large paper clips. Both work, and both use things anyone will have around the house, so 2 minutes and the problem is solved. My permanent hack is a small SS fan grill used for computer fans, just lay it on top and anything fits. You can even use it to grill, once you're down to coals. But it did cost a couple of dollars, so it's not as cheap as the other hacks. The larger Lixadas have pot stands similar to what you showed included, but they're considerably bigger than the FireAnt, so it's a little bit of apples and oranges there.
Im with you... But if companies such as lixada keep stealing designs, tweaking them slightly and selling them 2x - 3x less it will kill those real inventors and innovators of the world eventually. I don’t “hate it” for the money at all. But if i would choose. Id go with an original invention most of the time. Whether its a TV, Phone, Stove, Hammock, etc.
You missed the camco wood stove by using pellets I got a 2 hour burn with two handfuls of hardwood pellets Bonus round I start fires with tiki torch fuel with citronella , always use a tweaker torch to start
You really are a treat to watch, your clearly an everyman channel, your not paying personal trainers, teams of production crew, or lying about some fantastic history in secret squirrel military 3 letter agency pedigree, you come across as an average guy who is passionate about his hobbies, has family/life obligations, and go out of your way to be unpretentious, I've been thoroughly enjoying the content...please keep the authenticity and the "normal" angle of the channel, most of the "Spetznaz/SEAL/SF/Force Recon" style channels tend to be fake as all get out, and are a chore to watch, your content is far more applicable to most situations, including those found in the military for all but the 0.01% hero stories
Firebox Stoves- You've probably done more for Firebox Stoves by not reviewing them as you can see from several of the comments. Compare versatility, design, engineering, optional accessories, customer service, instructional use video, etc.Once you compare it with the others, you will see how it out performs all it's competitors.
Cheers that was super informative, I have the jet boil as my main user for hydrated meals and beverages it's unbeatable. But the gas doesn't work on cold(-5 or below) camp outs so I use one of the folding (hobo style) stoves with a alcohol burner, but have used twigs and wood when steaks or burgers are involved....
"The Kelly Kettle is so hot it actually starts hurting your hand when you put it on"???? It wouldn't if you had read the instructions or watched the many videeos (includinding `kelly's own video). It should be held by the handle at 90 degrees from the kettle with both hands so your hands should NEVER be above the flue when taking it off or putting on the fire bowl. If you are giving a review and demonstrating a product you must, in the interests of safety get it right!
Chris... I must say... awesome job in this video! This is the Chris that I have been waiting on.... superb on presentation. Very nice selections for comparisons. Even might have sold ol' Big AL a stove or two! Again... awesome job!
I have many stoves and grills but use both large and small lixada and a firebox nano more than any..also BCB Crusader canteen set..all work with wood..alcohol or tablet
The best stove is the one you have with you at that moment FB kayak cobber Tried several and burned even more. Good for motivation and good company at camp
Firebox stoves have normal size and nano sizes. I like the titanium Nano , Gen 2 since it does everything as far as fuel and weight savings. You can even fit a gas Trangia in it. Open fire and grilling it's the Vargo Bi Fold Titanium grill that I grab. Alcohol stoves my favorite is the Evernew Appalachian set. Packs small and light weight for the complete outfit , less the 6 ounces. If your saying why all Titanium , it cools a lot quicker then any other metal and weighs less..
Cool video since I'm just starting to get into solo backpack camping. The titanium Lixada stove I bought a couple months ago from Amazon came with the cross members for cup support. I boiled my water in my Stanley cup and it worked fine. Also cooked up some sausage and eggs in a military kit skillet...just had to keep taking the skillet off because you can't control the heat...lol. Being budget minded and a newbie I also have a small can stove and a pocket stove that I haven't had a chance to use yet.
Biolite stove with grill, by far the best stove, charges your cell phone, tablets, flashlight, camera, batteries AAA,AA,C,D, & 9V . Charge anything that uses a standard USB connector, all while your cooking your meal. Has a built in battery bank as well . I got rid of all my small camping stoves, since I got my Biolite stove & grill. Fuel source is wood.
I have a jet boil style but uses the Coleman green tanks. If I were living out my car this would be my stove because you can make coffee fast. In a car you reheat more than cook just easier to do that . Go to sams club get a chicken rotassary already cooked $5 and place meat in a gallon bag. Add to sandwich , salad , rice bag meals . Clean safe fast just what is required.
Love my fire ant stove the most it's well worth the money. The TI firebox is great to just folds in place no fiddling around also the titanium little pocket gas stoves are the best bud BSR and Lixada I have both you gotta review those tiny things man there as small as mini bic lighter, I store them together. GREAT video man love all your content and no BS.
They're all cool these types of stoves but the one thing that makes a huge difference with the performance is the calorific quality of the (essentially) twigs which go inside. I bought one for my kid (some USA award winning design apparently- one of those TOAKS ) but used in Australia with Australian Eucalyptus wood, very high energy due to the flammable oils within the wood (even green once it gets going!) but found other woods just don't cut it, especially in the smaller stoves. I'm sure Californian Eucalyptus wood would work just fine as well.
*Even if not on this Table.. What is your Favorite Backpacking / Camp Stove of all time you own and Why?*
Could you number the stoves (or anything you put in the description)? It's hard to find which stove I want in your list as it seems to be completely random. Thanks.
Edit: please also add matching numbers in the video.
@@Oxnate I had to rewatch to catch the name of the one I wanted to look more into, the virestove.
@@kennethmathe8969 Same. Except I had to re-watch 3 times and turn on subtitles before I figured it out. Subtitles said "virus stove." Hence the request to make things clearer for us. Several gear round ups could also use numbers. A couple of times I couldn't find the gear I was interested in and just gave up.
@@Oxnate good suggestion
no Firebox stove?
Firebox stoves, they also do all the things (solid fuel, alcohol, Swedish torch, stick, gas. Stainless construction or titanium, no assembly required, folds flat.
Philip Irwin Never used them before.
@@DropForgedSurvival Of all of the gear reviewers i watch and trust, you are one of the very few that haven't.
You have to get a fire box
@@DropForgedSurvival
Firefox stoves are awesome!
you are the first person that I have seen that has never used one of them even the mini is better than the knock offs
Have used the Kelly kettle for decades. The kettle whistles when it's ready, you can use frying pans/saucepans to cook a meal. Haven't taken it hiking but use it all the time to boil water if the power is out or just for an early morning cuppa outside. The Irish Kelly Kettle doesn't use a rubber bung but a metal cap which Whistles when the water boils, and has done for decades. Ours is coming up for twenty years old now and has the the metal cap and whistle, plus the hole in the base is bigger to feed in bigger pieces of wood, we often use peat if we're cooking breakfast as well as boiling water for a cuppa.
From Ireland
For the Lixada, I use 2 tent pegs as a cross frame. Works a treat for smaller pots or cups. 👍
I personally own the VIRE stove for about half a year now and it is as good as it gets, we used it about 15-20 times and still feels like new!!!
I fully agree with every word you said, changed our outdoor cooking experience (before I was using gas) for good.
Highly recommended!!
edited for spelling
Right on bud. Thanks for the feedback
Thanks very much itay.
Happy to hear that we have a satisfied customer.
Vonderful day
VIREteam
I have that same little folding 'Chinese' stove, got it about 25 years ago from a random catalog for around $6.00, it's comparatively heavy but has been surprisingly durable
Lane Gardinier at what time is your stove please?
Amazing how outdoor, hiking and camping stoves have evolved over the years from the standard green Coleman stove or even their smaller Peak 1 stuff.
I’ve been making (and collecting) “survival” kits for over 35 years now, and have quite a few. I’ve have recently started collecting stoves for my kits.
Have always used the basic canteen cup stove, and I still like it a lot.
But of all the stoves I’ve put in my kits, I keep the Emberlit Fireant in my bag.
Arctodus Simus I hear you
I carry a fire ant in my day pack. I carry it year round but I originally got it for Nordic skiing because its hard to build a fire when there is 5 to 10 feet of snow.
I can put it on a rock, piece of bark etc.
Cool collection
NOW, the Kelly Kettle has a new stopper that is green (and is standard on all the new models) that whistles when the water starts to boil. Another new improvement is the folding pot holder that fits on top of the kettle OR under the fire pan to keep it stable on uneven terrain or to protect the surface from heat that you would normally place the firepan on, like a picnic table.
Right on
i am a big fan of the firebox nano, for folding flat and packability, as well as its multi-fuel capabilities.
That’s a good collection of wood burners! Personally my favorite stove system is the trangia 25 duossal. It can run alcohol, butane, with an accessory burner as well as gasoline or kerosene with a different accessory burner. It’s an absolutely solid cook system that can be configured for lots of different situations from small to medium groups.
Never used the original trangia
Another plus one for Firebox! Amazing little stove, well thought out and built to last. Both versions. And their people (shout out to Steve and the CS folks!) are just stellar. I will never go back!
Finally got on in the mail!
I have that little no-name stove you showed. It works well enough. I recently invested in a kelly kettle base camp in stainless. They now come with a whistle stopper. It can operate well enough with an alcohol stove or the tabs. I even got a gel fuel pan for it. I haven't used it except to test it but I will soon enough. Thanks for the great vid and info.
Damian Bloodstone Right on man!
Chris, thanks for including my stove on the table. Good feedback on some improvements I can make and features that can be added. The flat-pack Vyre Stove is pretty amazing. Some incredible engineering to get that in one piece. Wow! Loved the set for the video too. Perfect visuals in the background. Keep up the good work.
Firebox, both versions. My Ti Nano never leaves my truck kit, so I have it no matter what. I also bought a Soto Windmaster last year and I am really digging it too.
The MSR Whisperlite International is the best stove for the serious survivalist. This legendary, multi-fuel backpacking stove burns white gas, kerosene, and unleaded auto fuel, so you'll be able to siphon gas from abandoned cars to run your stove post-TEOTWAWKI. The stove is incredibly reliable and can be cleaned, maintained, and repaired in the field.
@The Kraken Yes, most MSR stoves come with a spare parts kit, otherwise you can always buy parts aftermarket from the company.
@The Kraken Yes, most local retail stores that carry camping goods will likely have the replacemnt parts kit, it around 14.99- 20.99 depending on where you look
I 100% agree with you, i have an original whisperlite with the self cleaning jet nozzle, that thing is a trooper for sure winter temps dont even really slow it down since gasoline doesnt freeze unless youre like -30degrees. Though i suspect it would work even in a blizzard at the north pole or southpole.
I got my whisperlite 20yrs ago and bought the service kit at the time. Ive used it heaps over the years and it still runs like the first day. The only thing Ive had to replace was an oring on the pump.
I've got an msr copy and would second it as an excellent choice provided you have/find flammable liquid you're pretty much good to go. For a survival situation I'd also have my folding pocket stove as a solid fuel option too. Allows you to have the best of both worlds and conserve liquid fuel for when either the weather is against me or there's no solid fuel.
I have a Kelly kettle and a gasifier... The hobo stove from my kelly kettle fits my gasifier perfectly... I didn't like the instability of my gasifier... That little springy thing is slippery. But the hobo stove attatchment has completely transformed it. Thanks for the review 👍
I love this simplistic and comprehensive viewing of all of these products, this is one of the best hiking and camping stove reviews I've ever seen, definitely keeping this video in mind for future reference.
Real good job.
Can you do a video about what you would do if you got serious injuries in survival situations? Broken bones, burns, cuts etc? I think that would be very beneficial and informative. Or even survival simulations like lets say you started with a broken leg, what should you do?
TheKraigShow fun idea for a video... in the meantime... watch my “Zipstitch” episode
My favorite bomb proof stoves are msr xgk ex and my firebox stove for its versatility and being so robust. I can even put the xgk inside the firebox if I need to use it as a windscreen, also it can use all the alcohol stoves and works great with sternos just raise or lower where it sits for more/less heat. For cleaning soot off, my two ways are throw a little soap on the burn areas before cooking as it helps when you wipe it down or use aluminum foil crunched up cleans it like new.
We are looking into the MSR whisper lite and / or the MSR Deluxe
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How would you use this when it’s raining?
What could be sued as a shelter that is both fire and water proof?
Thank you great job I have never seen so many stones and grills
What?! No Firebox Stove. That's the best of the best...you need a 5" and a Nano. Nice video, thanks for sharing.
I would not know. Firebox never returns my emails
Why not just purchase one like the rest of us and test it. You don't need to have a business relationship with them do you. Nor Steve's permission to do a video or demo of it.
you can get a hold Of Steve and maybe he could give you a break the fire box is the best fold up there is or as others said buy one then if you dont like it you can sell it on gear trade and get your money back
@@DropForgedSurvival we have replied since you emailed, just have been very busy with a few things. We apologize for the delay in response though.
Firebox is the best 👌
Best video by far I’ve seen. Loved that you actually showed how the product works. Great job. Thank you so much.
bmmeup1 Thanks bud
For me I love the sterno inferno. Uses gel fuel I can get 2 tins to fit inside this will literally give you weeks of usage. Very efficient and lightweight
Right on
Thank you!!
I've wanted to see several of these. This really helped!!
I also suggest you try the Firebox stove/grill and the Firebox nano.
Very very durable. Both offered in titanium as well.
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Right on
I had the jetboil. Worked great in no wind. When the wind kicked up it went out. I returned it and grabbed an MSR windburner. More efficient than the jetboil. Boils faster and is more consistent in my testing. Also stayed lit in the wind.
Good list of stoves to look into. Am very impressed with a few of them. However, you should have included the stoves from Firebox, the Nano, Double Nano and the 5 " in both stainless steel and titanium.
Kalvin Noble You buying those stove for me? Lol 😆 Firebox is ok in my opinion.
@@DropForgedSurvival OK, saw your reply above. You say that the Firebox stoves are OK in your opinion, but have you really tried them? If you haven’t, I think that this video misses the mark.
Buy a Nano and the 5” Firebox. These will probably cause you to re-think your recommendations.
#fireboxstove
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@@TBNTX 100% the best, favorite piece of all my survival gear after 10k spent
If you buy the nano by itself it’s very limited. You have to buy the other parts separately and it isn’t cheap. I regret the purchase
Love my UCO Flat Mini (thanks for showing me that one!) and I've modded my Lixada to use Hex and alcohol along with the wood and made a cross piece out of an old Coleman stove that stopped working. Thanks for sharing bro!
the alcohol burner with a windscreen/cookset. It is a Trekmate, a smaller, less expensive version of the Trangia set. It surprises me all the time. Coddling the hot alcohol flame is the secret. I can boil & simmer, fry, and bake. LOL- my home made small rocket stove is next, though. ;)
Im looking into the Titanium Burners... But alcohol is incredibly inefficient if you plan on more than 7 Days... You need a Liter Bottle of Fuel, Pour 2oz of Fuel Minimum if you are doing more than simple boiling per meal. Ill take the twigs in most cases but a few solid cubes or a canister Stove like the Pocket Rocket or MightyMo since the Fuel lasts ALOT longer. But for shorter Trips... Absolutely ZERO things wrong at all with Alcohol Stoves.
The kelly kettle I purchased recently is the same size as that one you show here. Its called the 'scout' and it has a whistle and a pot stand that can go on top. I'm very impressed how quickly it worked and the fuel was free. Kelly Kettle also do a smaller model called the trecker which I would love to get for solo adventures.
I also recently purchased an amazing small solar cooker called the Gosun Go which I'm waiting to arrive. I think it will be a great contender for fire ban situations. It can boil or bake using no flame and no fuel but the sunshine.
I'm definitely a fan of my lixada folding stove. Simple and gets the job done. Got two and had them for around 1-2 years. No warping so far, one is titanium and the other is stainless. For fuel I've used Alcohol (trangia), hexamine or wood/leaves/brush etc all work well. Alcohol is a great fallback fuel for when the elements are against you. My personal favourite is to use pinecones for a solid burn and even as a small camp fire it is really pleasant to have. These easily fit in my back pocket with two lighters and a decent legnth of jute twine in the pouch. I've been able to cook for two from scratch no problem on mine using my 750ml titanium pot/cup.
I also have an msr style multifuel stove that works on pretty much any flammable liquid and ordinary camping gas. Pretty solid and dependable overall.
Pine cones are fun... If you have pine trees.. lol
So many good options. When I was young and where I come from, we used what we had. I remember using grills from old refrigerators. Maybe that's why I'm partial to the modern grills.
Ive done that before... well before the coated them in enamel and such.
Yeap. You don't want to be eating paint with your steak. Nobody told us that when I was a kid.
Many areas ban open flames entirely, when fire danger is high. It matters not of wood, tablet or liquid fuels. I have not seen a ban affecting wood fire only for decades. Thanks for the video, makes me want to get out more.
One thing you missed on the Kelley- you can fill it with water and the rubber cork holds it - the gillie cant . Also bought the new whistle plug. Great review.
That is a very solid Point.
I can’t go past my Trangia which has been serving me well for 35 years. Very simple, true all weather capability, and can be used in a total fire ban (important in Australia). Not the lightest or most efficient, but will work every time regardless.
If it works for you! Then its right for you
For the Kettle style stoves, I have learned using my Kelly Kettle to get it off the fire without torching your hand is to use both hands and grab the bail handle, hold it 90° from the chimney (or level with the ground) and lift the kettle off the fire with it held that way. No more scorched fingers! And I think the bottle plug on the Kelly is more to keep bugs and trash out and to secure the water while carrying the thing around. I never leave mine plugged when on the fire because when you hit a boil, it will violently blow the plug out along with a large quantity of boiling water.
Super complete and great explanations of why or when to use each type. We've been looking at stoves for some time (using our jetfoil for now) and this was sooo helpful!
This is good information. I would like to see your favorites with different size pans and pots on them., especially for cooking for a family
I do like the Kelly kettle, I've had a brew from burning a discarded pizza box in the past. I like the way you can burn just about anything you find, and you don't need much of it.
trangia was my mess kit stove in my backpacking days... still have most of it and use it in the RV with a Coleman two burner propane stove . which , I admit , is no back pack stove but does fold up nicely . we have a little ecco [I think ] bbq that folds up very small if not exactly a featherweight. it burns wood as well as briquets.
I make sets of penny can burners to use with alcohol or gels like sterno for a clean fuel. Then convert steel coffee cans into stove and oven sets. They use the penny cans or slope feed wood and never fail to work. So whenever needed it isn't actually an open flame. The best thing is they get stolen from me more often than damaged. So each set is done from memory. Knowledge is the best tool humans can survive on.
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I love that you’re just so no nonsense. You’re straight up. Mad respect.
Thanks Mac
Last year I got the UCO Flatpack Mini and am absolutely in love with it. I have a few luxida ones but I can't say I am in love with em to much. Haha. That Vire stove looks amazing though. Would love to try it out. Thank you for the video. So many options!
Thank you for this video. Didn't know about the Vire Stove. Like how the sticks slide in as they burn, less attention needed to feeding the fire.
I brought a cheap charcoal rotisserie from Bunnings (a store here in Australia) and i use the grill from that when 4wding. It's perfect but it is a little too big for a backpack.
Will definitely look at the fire ant.
Thanks Chris. Keep up the good work
Ben Johnson Thanks alot ben
You really need to check out Firebox stove. The mini will be right up your alley if your impressed with the Emberlit Fireant. I was actually surprised it wasn't in the list.
I agree.
I bought a Bio Lite stove at Cabela's. It somehow uses the fire to create electricity and powers a light that shines on the cook area, and you can charge your phone, too.
I haven't used it yet.
Firebox Nano, uco grillieput mini.
Jonah Yue Never used those
@@DropForgedSurvival Why not? Your review is probably incomplete without trying them.
Alcohol stove: Vargo Triad. The out-of-production model. It's not very fast, but it's efficient, it heads 2x the amount of water as my Evernew for the same amount of fuel.
Twig stove: Lixada Titanium clone of Uberleben Stoker. Folds flat. Lightweight. Burns fast & hot.
Vargo does make some solid stuff for sure.
Just a bit of info to be passed on for everyone. In reference to the Lixada stove, which i own. The top opening is a bit wide. Expedition Research makes a 2 pack grill grate kit. The 5x5 grate fits perfectly on the top of the Lixada. You still have to balance your cook ware or cup but it is a cheap answer and works well. Thanks.
Interesting collection and review but I think a few oversights. I’d agree that the trangia meth/alcohol burner is convenient and compact, and yes the jetboil is fast but as you point out the gas canisters are a limiting factor for longer treks. So, what’s missing? Fireboxes, there’s one that is very well made, it’s made so it folds flat but already all four sides already connected, also holds meths cooker too. I’m ex military, so the ezbit fuel tablets are an obvious go to, but for non military treks the Coleman sportster multi fuel cooker. All weathers, very economical with fuel, and solid cooking base for small to large pots. Not lightweight, but worth carrying, easy to use and control safely.
Already bought one. Lmao 😂 Good grief
Optimus SVEA. Nearly 100 years old. One moving part. Works on petrol that you can find anywhere. Solidly built. Not particularly heavy or big compared to more modern stoves. Not too expensive given the quality. Quite efficient.
Wood gasifier with bowl for meths is what I used for almost a year. Having meths is very handy and boils water fast.
Gasifier Stoves are solid.
"Meals" ur welcome👍
Oh, nevermind
That was great information on stoves. Yes please do more about stoves and other backpacks equipment.
God Bless.
Thanks for the info! Looking into backpacking stoves. This video made it easy to compare and choose.
Glad you found the episodes useful.
Check out Firebox Stoves! The Nano is amazing, versatile and efficient! I have both sizes the 5 inch is certainly heavier. Great for a base camp and serious cast iron cooking. Happy trails!
for gas/ liquid fuel type stove, I have the Primus Omni fuel, because you can use multiple liquid and gas fuels. I use with Aspen 4, unleaded fuel, great little stove.
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You should revisit gasifier/Ohuhu stoves. My absolute fav, when you pack them right they will give a no-smoke clean burn for over an hour without any refueling.
Right on!!!
Same. I'm STILL rocking the Gas One version of the Ohuhu. Identical stoves. I can run sticks, chips, pellets, alcohol, Esbit tabs, gel, etc. If I need more wood before the food is done, just lift the pot off and toss more in. Takes 5 seconds. If you're running a big pan, you can't really feed a side chute like the Solo stove anyways. Paid $16 for it and worth every penny. I rarely use any of my jet burner stoves, hobo stove, or even campfire.
I have the uberleben and couldn't be happier with it. Well maybe if it was titanium lol, but I've been using it for 3 years now in Northern Ontario throughout all 4 seasons and its served me well
I love my Kelly Kettle.. I know it ways 2.5 lbs BUT... I can boil 3/4 gal. of water in about 5 mins. with twigs and sticks. I think that is awesome! I won't leave home without it.
i have a core4. it's a little expensive, but breaks down flat and is very adaptable. change from three sided ultra lite configuration to a four sided gassifier. it holds a 8 inch iron skillet very easily, feeds from the side, and can use a alcohol burner. takes a minute to set up, but works fine for me. lite and compact. have you seen or used one? i recommend highly.
I have honestly never used one before. Sounds legit for sure
I got the aluminum Kelly kettle from my girlfriend for Christmas, and it is wicked.
Fairly lightweight, but bulky, i keep a scrub pad to clean soot from the inside so i can store shit in the bottom of it.
huffingfarts Kelly kettle is indeed a monster
I've had a honey stove for camping / fishing, pack's flat (8 pieces) , takes wood, charcoal, & meths. I use it every fishing trip in the winter down the beach
Nice once again. I've started taking baby steps in that my wife and I are camping on our deck this week while I am on vacation.Its very interesting with two GSD on the deck in the backyard. But we need to start somewhere! (OUTSIDE MY MILITARY SERVICE BEING MADE TO DO IT IN THE JUNGLE.) . Hey its a start outside of my military service).
When will you do another live Q&A with an advanced announcement fr the dates? I hope YT allows for the notification ahead of time.
BL W Slow and steady wins the race bud
8:05 This exact unnamed twig stove was offered at Bass Pro Shops in about 1986, my sophomore year in high school. I know this because I bought one on clearance, not knowing a thing about twig burners or portable stoves. Fast forward 37 years and it's still proudly in my collection.
No stove gives you the perfect balance between portability and performances like the VIRE !!
I’ve been using mine for over a year now for both camping and hiking!! I Highly recommend it!
Thanks for the feedback. Its pretty legit overall
Gal much appreciation for the comment!!
Wish you all the best from the VIREteam,
Have a vonderful week.
Thanks for the overview, nicely done!
I love my Lixada. While you mention the price difference between the Lixada and titanium FireAnt, it's a HUGE difference for many people. I can buy 4 or 5 stainless Lixadas for the price of a single titanium FireAnt. Even in SS, I could buy a couple of Lixadas for the price of a FireAnt. Anything the FireAnt can use to burn, my Lixada can do too. Haven't had any problems with warping with the SS, although I mainly use it for my Alocs alcohol stove (Trangia knockoff). Granted, the titanium FireAnt is considerably lighter than the SS Lixada, but few extra ounces of the Lixada isn't enough to outweigh the price difference for me.
The only real difference is the size of the opening on top as you mentioned, the Lixada's is too large for the Glacier or GSI cup(or Walmart knockoff). But I've seen (and used) three different hacks to solve the problem - one using a cut-up wire coat hanger, another using large paper clips. Both work, and both use things anyone will have around the house, so 2 minutes and the problem is solved. My permanent hack is a small SS fan grill used for computer fans, just lay it on top and anything fits. You can even use it to grill, once you're down to coals. But it did cost a couple of dollars, so it's not as cheap as the other hacks. The larger Lixadas have pot stands similar to what you showed included, but they're considerably bigger than the FireAnt, so it's a little bit of apples and oranges there.
Im with you... But if companies such as lixada keep stealing designs, tweaking them slightly and selling them 2x - 3x less it will kill those real inventors and innovators of the world eventually. I don’t “hate it” for the money at all. But if i would choose. Id go with an original invention most of the time. Whether its a TV, Phone, Stove, Hammock, etc.
Firebox stove is my #1
I HAVE NEWS! They are Finally Sending me one to Rock out in the woods.
@@DropForgedSurvival .Awesome sauce! It's great!
Rocket King Flat Pack Stove is really great idea.
Add one short stainless steele screw to lock things in place.....
You missed the camco wood stove by using pellets I got a 2 hour burn with two handfuls of hardwood pellets
Bonus round I start fires with tiki torch fuel with citronella , always use a tweaker torch to start
Definitely wasn’t trying to get every stove in the world in a single video
You really are a treat to watch, your clearly an everyman channel, your not paying personal trainers, teams of production crew, or lying about some fantastic history in secret squirrel military 3 letter agency pedigree, you come across as an average guy who is passionate about his hobbies, has family/life obligations, and go out of your way to be unpretentious, I've been thoroughly enjoying the content...please keep the authenticity and the "normal" angle of the channel, most of the "Spetznaz/SEAL/SF/Force Recon" style channels tend to be fake as all get out, and are a chore to watch, your content is far more applicable to most situations, including those found in the military for all but the 0.01% hero stories
This is an epic one stop shop for stoves!
Outdoor Momma Thanks Lady
I don't know much about stoves but the bio lite looks pretty cool
Firebox Stoves- You've probably done more for Firebox Stoves by not reviewing them as you can see from several of the comments. Compare versatility, design, engineering, optional accessories, customer service, instructional use video, etc.Once you compare it with the others, you will see how it out performs all it's competitors.
Dennis Conner I simply don’t own any of them. Has nothing to do with doing anything for or against any design or brand
Cheers that was super informative, I have the jet boil as my main user for hydrated meals and beverages it's unbeatable. But the gas doesn't work on cold(-5 or below) camp outs so I use one of the folding (hobo style) stoves with a alcohol burner, but have used twigs and wood when steaks or burgers are involved....
Great video! I hope you do more mash-ups like this.
Another vote for the Firebox stove! Plus Steve's videos are the best on TH-cam. 👍
"The Kelly Kettle is so hot it actually starts hurting your hand when you put it on"???? It wouldn't if you had read the instructions or watched the many videeos (includinding `kelly's own video). It should be held by the handle at 90 degrees from the kettle with both hands so your hands should NEVER be above the flue when taking it off or putting on the fire bowl. If you are giving a review and demonstrating a product you must, in the interests of safety get it right!
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Damn. Never met someone who cries as much as you do
@@stagger9660 nah he right
Chris... I must say... awesome job in this video! This is the Chris that I have been waiting on.... superb on presentation. Very nice selections for comparisons. Even might have sold ol' Big AL a stove or two! Again... awesome job!
Alan Williams Thanks alot brother
I have many stoves and grills but use both large and small lixada and a firebox nano more than any..also BCB Crusader canteen set..all work with wood..alcohol or tablet
No firebox?
Paul Leach I dont any of their models
Should probably give the 5" Titanium FireBox a shot.
The best stove is the one you have with you at that moment
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Tried several and burned even more. Good for motivation and good company at camp
Firebox stoves have normal size and nano sizes. I like the titanium Nano , Gen 2 since it does everything as far as fuel and weight savings. You can even fit a gas Trangia in it. Open fire and grilling it's the Vargo Bi Fold Titanium grill that I grab. Alcohol stoves my favorite is the Evernew Appalachian set. Packs small and light weight for the complete outfit , less the 6 ounces. If your saying why all Titanium , it cools a lot quicker then any other metal and weighs less..
Awesome video and a must watch for anyone going motorcycle camping!
Thanks so much for your show, the information is very valuable especial these days. Good to be prepared...your friend form Canada..
Just bought myself the Lixada. It now comes with the cross beam on top so it will take any size pot.
Right on right on
Cool video since I'm just starting to get into solo backpack camping. The titanium Lixada stove I bought a couple months ago from Amazon came with the cross members for cup support. I boiled my water in my Stanley cup and it worked fine. Also cooked up some sausage and eggs in a military kit skillet...just had to keep taking the skillet off because you can't control the heat...lol. Being budget minded and a newbie I also have a small can stove and a pocket stove that I haven't had a chance to use yet.
For the Luxada, I've bought a dollar worth oven grill, cut it to size, bent the edges and used in the top of the stove as a mug holder.
Biolite stove with grill, by far the best stove, charges your cell phone, tablets, flashlight, camera, batteries AAA,AA,C,D, & 9V .
Charge anything that uses a standard USB connector, all while your cooking your meal.
Has a built in battery bank as well .
I got rid of all my small camping stoves, since I got my Biolite stove & grill.
Fuel source is wood.
Nice work
Chris Leeks Thanks alot bud!
I have a jet boil style but uses the Coleman green tanks. If I were living out my car this would be my stove because you can make coffee fast. In a car you reheat more than cook just easier to do that . Go to sams club get a chicken rotassary already cooked $5 and place meat in a gallon bag. Add to sandwich , salad , rice bag meals . Clean safe fast just what is required.
Great list and vid as always
Great show thank you. Quite a few of these aren't available now a year later.
That was super informative and comprehensive. Thanks for sharing.
That agency was bombed 🤣🤣
Love my fire ant stove the most it's well worth the money. The TI firebox is great to just folds in place no fiddling around also the titanium little pocket gas stoves are the best bud BSR and Lixada I have both you gotta review those tiny things man there as small as mini bic lighter, I store them together. GREAT video man love all your content and no BS.
Golden Gildo The fire ant is a champ!
The Fireant, and the MSR Universal stoves...is all I ever use. I'm going to be picking up the..whistling kettle. Thanks for the video!!
They're all cool these types of stoves but the one thing that makes a huge difference with the performance is the calorific quality of the (essentially) twigs which go inside. I bought one for my kid (some USA award winning design apparently- one of those TOAKS ) but used in Australia with Australian Eucalyptus wood, very high energy due to the flammable oils within the wood (even green once it gets going!) but found other woods just don't cut it, especially in the smaller stoves. I'm sure Californian Eucalyptus wood would work just fine as well.
Kelly Kettle has added a whistle to their new cap and a wider convertible potstand that can be used to hold the fire base.
Awesome Update