1983: The Making of THE HACIENDA | Riverside | Classic BBC Music | BBC Archive
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- "A club for the future that intends to stay."
Dr Fraser Diagram is in Manchester, to visit The Hacienda nightclub on Whitworth Street West. The club, opened by Factory Records in 1982, is already an integral part of the growing Manchester music scene. He chats to Ben Kelly, the architect whose bold interior design choices give The Hacienda its unique feel, and to Factory Records founder Tony Wilson about the importance of building 'cathedrals' for youth culture.
This clip is from Riverside, originally broadcast 17 January, 1983.
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Tony Wilson is a hero to me , much love and respect for what he did for the music world .
"Mr. Manchester" legend
Me too.. And i miss his presence. I didnt know him ,but yeah...mr manchester :)
Hero, not many like him in my lifetime.
They put so much thought into the design and architecture which doesn't always happen so it's quite sad when you read it's history.
Yeah the way ended... but it played a massive part in popular culture history at the end of the 80's. . It was pretty much the only legal nightclub venue that was tailor made for the club/rave explosion, with it's New York inspired design. Maybe Heaven in London too. The rest of the legal venues were all cheesy 80's style discos.
Without the architecture and design, the Hac wouldn't have been so cool and unique in the late 80's and early 90's.
The club scene is always changing so nothing lasts more than a few years (apart from Ministry, but that lost it's cool factor a long time ago). Cream became massive for a few years after the Hac.. but that went bust in 2002. Clubs these days are being closed down more than ever.
The Hacienda will always be the first 'superclub', before the 90's brands like Ministry of Sound, Cream, Renaissance and all the others.
You can't really put a price on that kind of historic status.
Standard "It's apartments now" comment
Isn’t everything? Overpriced and underused
of course 🙄
24 Hour Party People is a wonderful movie.
A must watch!
It's fair to say Manchester has a lot to thank Tony Wilson and his gang for. I suppose the roots of the Madchester & Britpop scene (the best music period ever, in my opinion) can trace It's roots back there.
And I for one am thankful, and I've never even been to Manchester
There isn’t very much left of the city’s musical heritage anyway so you’re not missing anything by not visiting
Mr Manchester, well ahead of his time, thanks for the city you helped transform and thanks for the music 🎶 🎵 👍
ahhhh, the good old HAC.....so many good memories.... R.I.P 😭
Tony Wilson may be gone, but what a legacy he left to the world of music.
Heroic figure for his contribution to the arts and culture. Erudite, always interesting and larger than life. Amazing television presenter on So It Goes, Granada Reports and Up Front, the late night somewhat unpredictable late night show he co-presented with Lucy Meacock. He is sadly missed but not forgotten. The manner in which he faced up to cancer and refused to go private to pay for treatment that would have extended his life showed pure class. Shameful that Granada sacked him in around 2004 for accidentally swearing in an afternoon news bulletin watched by a few pensioners. No disrespect to pensioners, of course.
That shot of Oxford Road is almost unrecognisable now except from the Kimpton Building! It's got Principle written over it now
drugs destroyed this place and a damn pity because it was at that time the parthenon of the nw.
Thankyou Tony Wilson
What a visionary! RIP Anthony H Wilson.
Joined May 82 and met my (still wife) in Aug 82. Regular 82 to 87
I think that year 1983 is the year New Order had a massive hit with Blue Monday.👍👍
That massive hit that paid for the hacienda.😄 🤣 😂
Changed music forever
Year of the first Smiths single as well
They were playing Wham, though! Not that they were bad.
Yeah 83 blue Monday came out
My Gob has been Smacked. I still dance like that.
Fantastic! Im going to love this watch! Thanks a lot, Sonique 🎶😁
Manchester has a lot to thank Tony Wilson for
A blast from the past. Thanks for the upload 😀
"Not to have the facilities that New York and Paris have for the young people would be a disgrace."
This man's entire philosophy and worldview are truly exemplary.
Magical time to be young it really was ❤
Love The Cat's Eyes 👀
The young Mancunians are so trendy, but the crowded floor seems empty.
It started to get busy after '87.
Thank you Tony Wilson!
The Hacienda: Tony Wilsons vision, New Orders money.
Fantastic clip. Never seen that before. It was around 93 when I started going.
What is the music playing right at the end?
I think it's Moskwa Television, "Techno Talk", quite appropriate for the evolving electronic music thanks to Factory and A.H. Wilson.
th-cam.com/video/3cLDnOIKm5I/w-d-xo.html
Was called the Hacienda after a slogan by Ivan ChtChegov "The Hacienda must be built" part of a Radicacalist situationist group for new urban development
Nothing more than a continuation of the drugs scene introduced in the 60s that has destroyed so many lives.
Thats the spirit
Is that Eddie Murphy at 4:57 ?
Went three times but never got in.
nah
Cats eyes on the dancefloor so you do that funny trip up thing and try not to look stupid.
Where's my bucket hat, glow stick and whistle 🙌🙌
Lol Were you old bill
what a brilliant piece of film this is. so expertly shot. absolutely everything was intentional.
With the Hacienda, Punk steels back the Dancefloor from Disco!
As anybody seen Bez 😍
The men's bogs though... Just always flooded.
Is that Caroline Aherne in the queue at 4:40?
Don't think so.
Could be. She'd have been 20 around 1983 and this would have certainly been on her radar..
Paused it .. screenshotted it .. expanded it .. VERY similar, if not her!
She went out with Peter Hook of Joy Division who funded the place so 🤷🏻♂️
@@badger_claws Not sure when they met but they didn't marry until 1994.
So... why is it called the Haçienda 😳
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It's a from a slogan by Ivan Chtchegov "The Haćienda must be built " he was part of a radicalist situationist group for urban development
Legendary club but also a legendary carbuncle that ended up being a financial black hole. Not that it mattered to Mr Wilson. For the gory details I refer you to Peter Hooks The Hancienda: How Not To Run A Club.
The gangs didn’t help
But why IS it called Hacienda? They kept cutting away whenever someone started to explain
it's at the end
Went on a coach from shoot in London .,, hardly any of us got in coz we looked to different ,,,and we was out of our heads on e and there wasn’t a lot doing it up there then ,, ended up in the cypress club ,,, so funny
Yes, but why was it called the Hacienda?
Because The Hacienda must be built!
@@a34rwl Yes, there's a section on the Wikipedia article about the name.
blimey charlie ... *falls off zimmer* ...
❤
1983, the year I left school to join a Youth Training Scheme.
Was it 'a government scheme designed to kill your dreams'?
What camera was this filmed on? Is this 16mm?
8mm I think
16mm reversal yes and 1/4 inch audio on a crystal synced nagra. Standard back in the day :)
@@colourist. aw brilliant thank you :)
Congrats on 200k BBC Archive!! 🎉 Kx
and in 88 acid house and mdma, world would never ever again be the same
0:28 Projecting Ian Curtis or what..
Everyone dressed like that. I was 14 and had the best overcoat in Britain, actually, from some New York tailors. I wore it till it was so ragged I got raided by the police when I was 17 cos it was the middle of the Just Say No drugs nonsense and I think loads of people in my small town had phoned their tips line to claim i was a heroin addict. When they found nothing but a joint butt they (and these guys had travelled to Hertfordshire from Paddington Green) just ordered me never to wear my coat again.
"Here are the young men, with weight on their shoulders" is a joke on this theme. Curtis wasn't actually much of a fashion leader, most of us were copying Ian McCulloch.
“Why is it called the Hacienda?”
“It’s something to do with….”
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double like
Some of those moves on the dancefloor...😁
The Haçienda must be built.
what a time
Ben Kelly you spent a fortune!!!❤
🎹🎹🎹🎹
know, these were people like you
Super clip - had forgotten what the interior looked like. Anthony HW only moderately pretentious by his lofty standards. Interesting to see Fraser Diagram's career path - PHD, Project Manager....
The sentimental memories of the 80's has just been destroyed by watching the clubbers here. Bring on the 90's...
industrial environment
Yes it was a warehouse.
Clubbing died in 2000. Its now a vacuous sanitised experience.
Depends where you live.
Corporate drudgery, just like festivals
To be honest it had already gone corporate and lost it's feel of newness and excitement by around '97. It kicked off in 1988. The best years were late 80's and the first half of the 90's, before it became about superclub branding and big business. In 2000 it was already overkill with the likes of Cream, MOS and Gatecrasher adverts and CD's all over the place.
(7:30) Where did he record his speech? In the underground carpark..?
he's reading a situacionist manifesto
@@94definicion Oh, so you think he had the situation under control then?
Oh OK.
I thought he might have had to duck out for a moment.
No, inside the hacienda
@@StoutProper I see, end.. a.
Tony Wilson created for art and youth. We need more Tony in the world. RIP