How to Catch Finicky Walleyes
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 29 ก.ย. 2020
- Well we all have those days. Finding fish and not getting bites is a problem all of us will face when we fish for walleyes. There are a ton of different things to try during a tough bite but this is one of our favorite tips. On this trip we encountered some very difficult fall walleye fishing. We found fish all over in deeper water however we could not get them to eat many of the normal offerings. This video focuses on speed jigging and how productive it is for getting a reaction from tight lipped fish. Thanks for watching!
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You have got to be kidding me, the wise walleye slayer, Tom Boley is mortal after all just like the rest of us here in northern Wisconsin.
Love the videos you do a phenomenal job presenting the information.
I get more from Tom's videos than I get from the rest of TH-cam
Grinder days makes you better and appreciate good days even more
Sorry about your slow day, but it is reassuring that even you can have an off day where the fish don’t bite. Thanks for the honesty and explanation of what you do about it.
Really appreciate videos like this let's guys like me know I'm not doing everything wrong it's just a tough bite thanks keepem comin
Thanks Mitch for pointing out the difference between vertical jigging mono and casting braid as well as the fact that you don't want to control the fall. Even after watching so many of Tom's videos I never picked up on that. Good to know! Can't wait to get out tomorrow and give it a try as I've been snapping the crap out of that braid and trying to control the fall. It will be interesting to see how this works.
Love the videos Tom! Hard reality of fishing is they aren’t always biting when you are able to fish.
Watching this video reminds me of what Larry Smith has said on some of his shows.
IT'S THE LITTLE THINGS THAT MAKE THE DIFFERENCE.
One of my favorite videos is when you were on the show.
One word to describe the show is (educational)
Keep them coming
Thank you for being real! I'd be happy with 1 fish some days.
Thank you Tom. U and your friends/family, and your work on and off the water is the best.
good job Tom!!! Always honest and clear!! thanks
Great videos tom your just smashing it with all the new videos keep it up
Great video. I was fishing with a friend yesterday and you passed us on the lake and fished the humps after us. We recognized you and were excited. We experienced exactly what you describe - tough bite. We had discussions about topics you covered in the video. Best videos ever.
Thanks for the tips on deep-water fishing
Thanks Tom, very good information on the tough times
Yep it was the same for us last week/weekend in central MN. We only managed one walleye, but bass and pike were biting. We gave up on the walleye fishing and moved on to bass.
Yep. Tried fatheads on Green and got the same. Was 66 degree water so shoulda stuck with crawlers.
Thank you Tom for your advice.
Tom, when the fish don't bite, you drink. :) Good video
Thanks Tom - great information and enjoyed learning.
Glad to know I'm not the only one struggling in MN trying to get these walleyes to bite!! That's ok tho just love to get out.
As said below thanks so much showing this side of fishing!
Good video, thanks. We were going through that a lot as of late but had a good day yesterday.
Thank you for keeping it real you could have edited your video and made it look better than what it was like others due. Thank you. Nice to see even you struggle like the majority of us do when out on the water.
My buddy saw you at the launch yesterday. Says he appreciates you being cool about discussing the fishing. You made some even bigger fans because of it. I’ll be on (that lake you were on) next Thursday and Friday. Same boat as yours.
Ditto's on appreciating whenever folks 'keep it really real, and that's with any/everything (not just rod n' reeling).
It won't be news to everyone here, but speaking as a retired aquatic ecologist and after 57yrs of chasing fish tails? We can and must take solace in one fishing fact:
Fish do NOT become active in order to feed. But active fish feed.
If that sounds like a riddle, well it did to me too, back in my early fisheries student days. It's not hard to resolve when we accept the reality that we CANNOT very well or often anthropomorphise (project our perceptions upon a so fundamentally different creature).
First, being warm-blooded puts an imperative on keeping fuel in our metabolic furnace. Even during warm weather, if we go long enough without eating, and may not have a lot of fat stores available besides, we start to feel chilled. Not fish! They never feel chilled, because they are NOT trying to maintain homeostasis (a near-constant internal environment, against any/all external gradients, such as colder air). temperatures). Below their thermal optimum, their metabolic rate shifts along with the temperature of the surrounding water.
For us, just standing and maintaining balance all day burns energy above and beyond our base metabolic rate associated with essential functions like breathing, blood circulation, digesting, and even thinking/dreaming (our brain activity alone consumes something like 20% of our total dailu energy expenditure).
Operating on (autopilot) instinct, and with the lessened force of gravity nearly passively compensated for by the countering buoyancy of a swim bladder, fish face lower energetic 'bills' in their moment by moment existence.
What's more? Since fish pay lower 'bills', they are much more capable of 'plastic' growth, simply meaning that while their frame (skull and bones) don't shrink back, their soft tissues are quite capable (as does a balloon, only not hollow of course) both expanding and contacting with the net balance of energy acquired versus that expended.
Bottom line here:
Unlike us, fish can well afford to 'chillax' and even for long periods (essentially all/every winter!), and then make up for it quickly by feeding well whenever 'the getting is good and do exactly that - routinely.
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Very interesting
Fascinating, thanks for sharing that!
Thanks for that info! Very intriguing!
Bro. My helix looked exactly the same. Would catch the odd one or two using a gulp bait but super aggressive. Was pure reaction. Fun when they strike cause its a huuugggeee strike. Great video Tom. Your becoming #1 with your great content. You give the viewer exactly what they want. Fishing in a sense. Love it.
Love Tom videos , learn something every video !
Great video again, keep up the good work!
Lol I thought it was me! Was getting mad but took a break and hit up bass. Came back to walleyes later and pulled up only two. Not easy learning new species and patterns. Great video Tom👍
Usually I just give up and focus on drinking
Love your videos
Appreciate the honesty in this video. It was like that for us this last weekend. Fish everywhere on the graph, just couldn't get them to bite, no matter what was offered. That's the reality of it at times. You appreciate it when the bite is on, so much more. Keep on Fishing.
Yea i got that last weekend on the Mississippi, no walleyes just bass and crappies, nice reality video.
Was out a bit east of you during the same time. It was a grind for a couple of days. Spoons tipped with crawlers was the only thing they'd bite. It gets like that but you got to get the grind on to get it done.
great video Tom, you should do an old school video just a bottom bouncing worm harness no fish finder challange, that be awesome
Great video friend
Thats how its been for me too, its easy to be locating fish in 18- 35 ft of water but just not biting.
A cold snap that fast will turn them off for a day. Had the same thing happen last week in Michigan. The barometer affects bigger fish. Maybe that's why mostly smaller fish biting.
Hyper-Rattles......sold out all summer long
Tom, use hyper-rattles over hyper-glides?
Tom you should get some hoodies made with hooked up fish on!
appreciate the vid
Tom thanks for the video. It was the same for me here in central Ontario. If you don't mind me asking, what was the water temperature (at transducer)? Thanks again.
Hey Tom, would you reccomend the alijoz 300 for musky fishing with lures under 10 inches?
I ask because im between this and a lews super duty 300. Im also gonna try for an okuma komodo (the komodo will be on a new setup), i just want the lews or piscifun to replace my old reel (too slow for my liking.)
Tom use lot ice rap rip raps? Blade baits? Good video
Glad to hear everyone is struggling right now ha
Tom,
Do you find the Hyper Rattle as productive working it the same way at night?
I assume you answer this question a lot sorry, but which Simms bibs and coat are you using. The cool weather (Prodry) or the cold weather (Challenger Insulated). Thanks!
Just discovered your channel this year, I really wish we could find Hyper-Rattles...
FWIW, I found them at fishusa.com . They delivered them in a few days. I ordered 4, but only 3 came and the other was back-ordered. They sent a nice email right away telling me it was back-ordered and gave me a phone number to call if I didn't want to wait. A lot of them are out of stock on their web site, but better than most places. I'm not affiliated with them, just letting you know I found some and they seemed like a pretty good web site.
@@donaldjdickinson Awesome, thanks. Stock says they have a few colors I like in the 2" so I'll pick some up.
I’ve been waiting for them to come back to FishUSA. They have been out of stock on the larger sizes forever! So that’s good to know that they’ve got them back! Ordering now
@@DirtyJobsGuy1 Still no 2.5"
@@DirtyJobsGuy1 I just checked and most of the larger ones are out of stock (again?). Ug. hard to find these things, but I'll post back here if I find the 2.5" in stock anywhere.
Hyper rattles or glides work if your drifting? Or just stationary?
How do you decide who's boat your gonna take when you guys are together? lol heads or tails
Why not try trolling? Just trying to learn how you think. Thanks
Could I get the Timestamp for Lakers catch footage?
So Tom is human!
But did you try a Banjo Minnow?
Damnit
#realfishing
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Upshot for us as anglers? Making some slight allowance for the exploiting the walleye's predatory instinct via 'cat and string' methods (e.g. snap jigging), for all practical purposes we can only catch active fish. We can be atop 10,001 temporarily INACTIVE fish, and even using 'normal' effective presentations, our quarry is going to remain immune to temptation, in a 'comatose' state, until such time as its natural environmental 'scope for activity' (or combination of factors such as water depth. clarity, temperature and thermal trending, dissolved oxygen levels, ambient light levels, presence or absence of their enemies, the availability / abundance /vulnerability of prey species, recent history of feeding successes, timing of preparations for spawning or for overwintering, and likely other, more subtle or not so obvious factors,
ALTOGETHER and on balance, meets a certain threshold level for success (achieving a net positive energetic balance, likewise without taking undo risk of becoming the prey - catastrophic loss of all prior net growth).
Iow's, unless independent wealthy and so able to hire servants to attend to our every need and want, we people must routinely maximize our potential gains.
Whereas instead, enjoying a much wider latitude in their energetics, fish routinely minimize their potential losses. They lay relatively low much of the time, and then interspersed within that passive and inactive lifestyle, every so often (whenever conditions conspire to making it rewarding) they go on an all-out binge, 'top off their tanks', and then go back to an inactive state.
The casual way of describing (in priority order) how to achieve maximum angling success might go like this:
1) Fish where fish are.
2) Don't scare them by our presence.
3) Give fish what they want.
But once we factor in the very dynamic scope for fish activity? If we want to be efficient as anglers (which is just an option, unless subsistence fishing and starving), these guidelines tighten up and narrow down:
1) Only soend time and energy fishing when and where active fish are either known to be,, or may be found.
2) Practice scrupulously stealthy habits, so as NOT to ever be directly responsible for any active fish become alarmed and threatened into an inactive state. Hunt fish like a heron (the onlyvpiscivorous bird we humans can emulate, that catches the large and/or cautious adult fish)
3) Bend our preconceived notions and any preferences quickly, so to cover the gamut and determine what fish want as quickly as possible. Recognizing that fish couldn't care less about what we may want to effer.
We have but only so many hours to find, to not put to fright, and to dial in upon a presentation method that matches their 'mood of the moments". The more efficiently we can cover those bases, the sooner our program can begin to produce, and at least until their scope for activity closes down (on account of changes in one or more environmental conditions over which we have no control), exploit the opportunity supplied where, when and while fish remain active (hence quite catchable).
Thus while many and varied skills might contribute precipitating periods of epic catching, those skills are no substitute for bringing them to bear over active fish. When we arrive at a location where their are active fish, it typically takes very little time to make first contact - even if what and how we are offering it isn't ideal. Our technical skills don't produce bites out of 'thin air (empty or sparsely occupied water)', but but our discipline and our talent employing our process skills (management of angling efforts) make or break the catch that can ever be expected under the present moment's prevailing conditions. Objectively, that won't always be a lot, no matter who we may think we are. "A man's gott'a know his limitions".
So fish as often and as well as we can, but also throughout those expenditures of time and effort, know 'when to say when' and cut your losses by either changing up (not just our lure or retrieve), but our entire approach. Our task on any given outing is to apply insight to the circumstances, and hit them with what we may believe is our best shot, but if our initial play doesn't produce a score, then to shrug off that result and efficiently control what we can control, in order to quickly make and cover multiple bets.
In my own fishing, I'm reverting back to warmwater venues after decades focused on trout on the fly in flowing water (which is fairly easy to read, and likewise determine if/where there are catchable fish present, because the typical trout takes many small bites on many more days. )
The hardest thing for me to do is to take the time (with my hooks dry and my lines all stowed) using my electronics to prospect for areas to THEN break out my tackle, and then to make a only a half dozen casts, with each of just a few sorts of lures, before pulling the plug on that immediate venue in favor of just as efficiently sampling the next.
That's what I was gonna say.
So tough last week or so 👎👎👎