Ingemar had so few fights, just 30 as a pro. He actually was in his prime between 1956 and 1958 when he was European champion. He was in super shape and form when he beat Eddie Machen in 1958. Unbeatable I would say. When he won over Patterson, imo, he was actually not as good as the year before. Had he kept that spirit from 1957/58 Floyd would have been knocked out within 2 minutes.
What was Brian angry about? Round was over. But so too was Ingo's boxing career. He wisely chose to retire, perhaps already sensing the neurological damage he had received in his short career, and which would hit him hard in later years. If I remember correctly, this put an end to talk about Ingo going up against Liston, but I don't think he was looking forward to that. Better to promote Sonny, which Ingo did in Sweden.
Yes Ronald you're right. Ingo had no wish to fight Liston. He had no spirit left and never became the same after having been brutally knocked out by Patterson in their 2nd bout. Before turning pro I believe that Ingo hah had about 100 amateur fights. Ingo often trained and fought in retreat, which meant he never really developed good defense skilled but just tried to block punches with his gloves and arms, but still had to take a lot of hard punches through the years which as you say of course affected his health later in life.
Brian London was a warrior, who was afraid of no-one. Had he got a title shot at Liston he would have fought to the bitter end. Ingo in this last fight of his career wasn't "hungry" anymore and therefore slow and lazy, just waiting for the bell, which ironically as many suggest here actually saved him. A defeat would have given him a chance to fight Sonny Liston who at this day was the champ that everybody feared.
Brian and some members of his family were involved in a riot inside a boxing ring in a place called Porthcawl, South Wales in 1960, when he was beaten by Wales' Dick Richardson for the European heavyweight title. Shameful scenes
Cooper was no winger. London didn't cut as easily as Cooper, and he had a more durable chin. But when you said that you said it all. London didn't have a punch in the same league as Coopers left hook. Cooper was knocked out by a peak Johansson, not this washed up has been in his last fight. In their first fight Cooper stopped London in 1 round. And if you're gonna make comparisons, lets compare how they both did against Muhammed Ali, where Cooper did incomparably better in both their fights than London's 3 round effort.
London was a poor mans version of Jerry Quarry. A record of 37-20 seems to indicate he gave the crowd a decent effort but was not too skilled. He was a champion in Britain at least.
These guys were soon to be obliterated by the new generation of American heavyweights like Liston,Ellis,Frazier and of course Ali. They were too slow,barely fit and technically poor. Even small blokes like Hagler and Duran and Bob Foster would have beaten them.
Remember Brian this way. As a guy who fought the best and had a colourful, controversial, career. R.I.P.
Ingo’s last fight. To this point, I had only seen pictures of him on his back with his legs up. Cool..thanks for this.
Twitching crazily after Floyd Paterson nailed him.
London said after the fight "Ingo's sister hits harder than he does".
Then I must say, London was lucky enough that he never had to face Ingo's sister in life.
Rest in peace, Brian.
...Ingo also.
Although he lost, this is probably the most impressive result of London's career - considering that he was fighting a former world champion.
For an ex-champ there is not much footage on Johansson other than the Patterson fights.
Watch him fight Eddie Machen on youtube
Ingemar had so few fights, just 30 as a pro. He actually was in his prime between 1956 and 1958 when he was European champion. He was in super shape and form when he beat Eddie Machen in 1958. Unbeatable I would say.
When he won over Patterson, imo, he was actually not as good as the year before. Had he kept that spirit from 1957/58 Floyd would have been knocked out within 2 minutes.
That's because he sucked.
Good footage of the Machen bout in 58 including some shocking refereering.
There’s no way Ingo would have survived there.
He was in a bad way.
5 years for the power fighters. This seems about right.
What was Brian angry about? Round was over. But so too was Ingo's boxing career. He wisely chose to retire, perhaps already sensing the neurological damage he had received in his short career, and which would hit him hard in later years. If I remember correctly, this put an end to talk about Ingo going up against Liston, but I don't think he was looking forward to that. Better to promote Sonny, which Ingo did in Sweden.
Yes Ronald you're right. Ingo had no wish to fight Liston. He had no spirit left and never became the same after having been brutally knocked out by Patterson in their 2nd bout. Before turning pro I believe that Ingo hah had about 100 amateur fights. Ingo often trained and fought in retreat, which meant he never really developed good defense skilled but just tried to block punches with his gloves and arms, but still had to take a lot of hard punches through the years which as you say of course affected his health later in life.
robbery bell rang early to save johannsen
Brian London was a warrior, who was afraid of no-one. Had he got a title shot at Liston he would have fought to the bitter end. Ingo in this last fight of his career wasn't "hungry" anymore and therefore slow and lazy, just waiting for the bell, which ironically as many suggest here actually saved him. A defeat would have given him a chance to fight Sonny Liston who at this day was the champ that everybody feared.
Brian London was little more than a human punchbag....stop this outpour of nonsense. He was a bum.
Liston v London? I wouldn't even watch the funeral
My God, how far had Johansson deterioated by this fight?
Brian and some members of his family were involved in a riot inside a boxing ring in a place called Porthcawl, South Wales in 1960, when he was beaten by Wales' Dick Richardson for the European heavyweight title. Shameful scenes
Johansson got saved by the bell. London had him!!
Liston would have destroyed both of them in the same night !
@Michael Mall ok, maybe, but what does my comment have anything to do with Liston?!!
Wow
Notice how dear old Brian, honest as they come, put up a better show against both Johansson and Patterson than the whinger Cooper.
Cooper was no winger. London didn't cut as easily as Cooper, and he had a more durable chin. But when you said that you said it all. London didn't have a punch in the same league as Coopers left hook. Cooper was knocked out by a peak Johansson, not this washed up has been in his last fight. In their first fight Cooper stopped London in 1 round. And if you're gonna make comparisons, lets compare how they both did against Muhammed Ali, where Cooper did incomparably better in both their fights than London's 3 round effort.
London was a poor mans version of Jerry Quarry. A record of 37-20 seems to indicate he gave the crowd a decent effort but was not too skilled. He was a champion in Britain at least.
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These guys were soon to be obliterated by the new generation of American heavyweights like Liston,Ellis,Frazier and of course Ali.
They were too slow,barely fit and technically poor.
Even small blokes like Hagler and Duran and Bob Foster would have beaten them.
Forget Hagler Duran or Foster beating these Heavyweights. Don't forget Cooper had young Ali out.
@@kevinmahon7848 Ali got up at the count of three, how is that out? Watch the bout FFS
@@Caskchap And lurched into the ropes and Dundee ripped the Glove and bought Him more time.
@@kevinmahon7848Yes and his corner used smelling salts to revive Ali, which was not allowed under the boxing rules in Britain.
Ingo barely trained....
Nothing succeeds like success. "Hammer of Thor" got the decision, he was the last one standing🧍
Rubbish, London was standing, Ingo was rocking, the bell saved Ingo from being knocked out
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As I said - "Nothing succeeds like success"