@@larrypatty8333 Actually, they head-end locomotives are electrically controlled through jumper cables. And, yes, only the lead engine has a crew. That's why William is saying that that specific locomotive saved the crew.
@@larrypatty8333 Ah, right, I'd not noticed the "crewS". Locomotives on the head end are definitely controlled by cables, not by radio. Locomotives in the middle of the train or on the end are radio-controlled, but not head-end power. Look at 1:11 in the video -- the big yellow cable held in a sort of "w" shape at the front of the locomotive is the multiple-unit connection. It's a 27-core cable that carries the control signals between the locomotives. You're seeing it there in the stowed position, presumably because the locomotive was the last in the consist, so the end we're looking at there was connected to the first car of the train, rather than another locomotive. The smaller black cables you see hanging down through holes in the top of the pilot are the locomotive brake connections. Google "US locomotive MU control" for more information -- the article at the Railway Technical Website has a lot of detail.
4067 took that impact like a champ! If anything, this video gives me a huge deal of confidence that no matter what we hit - we will probably come out alive
I would guess this is a daily occurrence. I live in Ashland, VA, and saw a tractor trailer bolting across the track as the gates were coming down. The gate actually came down on top of the trailer. I'm surprised it didn't get ripped off.
@Signaltrack1 the truck did not proceed after the signals were activated. They were stopped and stalled over the tracks when the signals became activated and then did not attempt to clear the crossing up. I used to see it all the time where people were blocked inside the crossing by the gates and freeze. Little do they know those gates are lightweight and easily broken if driven through. If it were up to me as a driver, I'd rather take some scratches on my car from the gate than the scratches a locomotive will put on it as they shove it down the tracks at 40mph+. The other problem I witnessed constantly were people who were going to drive around the gates and spot the train after they've gotten around the first gate. Then they stop, put their car in reverse and try to back up. That's usually when the train strikes them! I wish I could tell them "If you're gonna be stupid, commit to the job and don't back out halfway!" because if they had kept going, I probably would have missed them.
I have a friend who works on the UP in Arizona. 2 months ago he hit and killed a mother and a daughter because she was inpatient. It really messed him up, he’s been on suicide watch for the past month or so because he keeps blaming himself for the accident. So I would definitely agree with you on that one
Considering the way our court systems handle criminal matters these days, they likely accepted a plea offer from the Defendant, gave him a much lighter sentence, which was probably time already served and turned him loose before his court date was scheduled. At best we can hope he never drives anything bigger than an SUV and cannot cause this type of wreck again. Train crewmen are rarely represented in court at a favorable level. I'd wager, the judge probably agreed that the only reason the driver was assessed criminal charges was because there were resulting injuries. Otherwise they would have just given him a ticket. Meanwhile the train crewmen who were injured got time off with no pay and are praying that someday FELA will kick in so the railroad will give them some sort of compensation. If they have to take the railroad to court, then they can never go back to work without constantly looking over their shoulder and making sure they dot ever I and cross every T so as to not get fired.
"Considering the way our court systems handle criminal matters these days" Sorry, but plea bargains and lighter sentences for guilty pleas have been a thing _forever._ "I'd wager, the judge probably agreed that the only reason the driver was assessed criminal charges was because there were resulting injuries." Several million dollars of property damage will also tip that scale. "Meanwhile the train crewmen who were injured got time off with no pay" Yeah, that really sucks. You guys really need to get your labour laws sorted out.
@beeble2003 that is true, but lately it seems like a lighter sentence is imposed so they can say they didn't overpopulate the jail. A train crewman was injured and lost pay because of a careless action of another and the only recourse they'll have is to sue their employer whose not at fault either, technically.
@@SD40Fan_Jason "so they can say they didn't overpopulate the jail" LOL. You know that the USA has the sixth-highest percentage of its population in jail of any country in the world, right?
The crew got compensation while they were off work for this. Railroad retirement handles that. It’s not full pay, but around 70% for sittin at home ain’t bad.
NS is in no hurry to repair these units as they are material evidence in court proceedings against the trucking company and NS ( for spilling diesel fuel into a creek) it will take years before that is adjudicated. NS is getting along without the wreck damaged units.
I couldn't tell if crossing signals were flashing. IMHO he escort company failed by not advising the railroad - they should know the route in advance. Also should have measured the crossing height/load length/load clearance. In the case of an escorted load, I do'nt know who is the "Captain of the ship". A good driver would not blindly follow the escort. When I was riding a school bus, the driver had to stop B4 the crossing, open the door and his side window, and also would holler to the kids to quiet down. He then waited, listening, for at least 30 seconds before proceeding. And he proceeded without delay. STM had I been this driver I would stop, get on the ground and feel/listen to the rail. You can sense an approaching train. I drove 53' TV trucks with low clearance, and never crossed a hump without checking clearance. I guess it worked, I am retired now with an accident free record. I got called out as an old woman. But I retired alive and my escuchtion was unsmirched.
"I do'nt know who is the "Captain of the ship" " The truck driver is always responsible for the safety of their truck. "STM had I been this driver I would stop, get on the ground and feel/listen to the rail." No. Stop and call the railroad. Don't try to figure it out yourself.
when you have a over size load you have to get a permit from the state dot..dot tells you what route you have to take....looks like trailer was stuck on the tracks...
Never knew that, in 1978. I took an Amtrak to Altoona. From there I went to a small Town called Patton PA. Your story was nice to hear. I have enjoyed watching a lot of videos about trucks getting stuck on the tracks. I was a truck driver for 10 years. Sorry it was the semi's, it was the straight trucks. I respected the Trains as I crossed them.
The locomotives from the Collegedale TN train versus truck incident are probably gonna get fixed. In the meantime they're in the Altoona Pennsylvania shops for repairs.
THE LUCKIEST CAB CREW OF A LOCOMOTIVE WAS IN 1967 IN POMONA KANSAS! A SANTA FE PASSENGER TRAIN WITH A NEW GENERAL ELECTRIC U -28-CG LOCOMOTIVE WHACKED A FULL SIZED FORD STATION WAGON AT FULL SPEED. THE CAR ROLLED ITSELF INTO A LOG, THEN ROLLED UNDER THE PILOT PLATE AND COUPLER, AND DERAILED THE # 1 AXLE AND WHEELS. WHAT WAS LEFT OF THE CAR ROLLED INTO A METAL LOG UNDER THE TRUCK FRAME , AND SKIDDED IT UNTIL THE STOP, SAFELY STILL ON THE RAILS. EVERYONE IN THE CAR PERISHED, BUT THE CREW MAY HAVE HAD ONLY DIRTY UNDERSHORTS!
2:00 Are they meant to though? Usually (at least on this side of the pond) it's the escort's job to ensure safety, the truck driver is meant to follow the escort unless they tell him not to.
Most of you trip'n on the old cliche of going around the signals. If you saw the video or bothered to read you'll see the trailer was already on the crossing, also if you bothered to listen to this narration it stated the driver did not coordinate with the railroads nor local police. Geeez, read before you comment!!
Insurance? If the truck insurance is paying the train rebuild costs or write-off replacement costs that changes it a lot. But, I suppose it comes down to how bent the frame is.
You keep up date about court case and what the trucking outfit on this and I much it will take repair locomotive with hard hit on this.thank about this video.
Is it possible for you to make a video of these engines coming into the workshop, then video as they are repaired and upgraded and then the exit from the machine shop as completed engines again ready to go back to work Thank you 👍🏿.
Incidents like this are frustrating especially when these so called Truck Drivers test their luck! What was the big hurry to jeopardize so much? There were 2 accidents near me Saturday that involved the DCR short line railroad. One drove around the gates and BAMM! That person is in ICU now. Not sure about the other accident with injuries. Felt sorry for the engineer who definitely had a bad day! Please people don't test your luck with a train bcuz you'll NEVER win!
I suspect that the problem was the truck grounding or getting stuck, not running the gates. And, with a load that long, it's entirely possible that the gates came down while the truck was half-way across. They should have stopped and contacted the railroad before entering the crossing.
@@ohgary How common are reinforced concrete beams on the tracks compared to other obstacles? It may not always be 100% effective, but 90% justifies its use.
im sorry for being late to this vid but wifi issues but the clip with the train vs truck tells us a reminder no matter how big the vehicle is i will never win fight against a train and i also hate it when those truck drivers with those damn freightliner Cascadia's think they can defeat a train but in reality there truck gets annihilated
It never ceases to amaze me how stupid some truck drivers can be when it comes to crossing a railroad track. If you’re pulling a lowboy type trailer across a raised railroad track crossing it seems to me you would think about possibly getting “high centered” and not cross.
There is some question that the truck driver in this incident is an illegal alien and was using a fake license. You might not find local court records because it looks like the feds took him.
You beat me to the conclusion that they would be rebuilt. It is amazing what these engine shops can do.
Locomotives badly damage but the first engine saved the crews so shout out to that unit ❤
Usually only the lead engine has a crew. The other units are radio controlled.
@@larrypatty8333 Actually, they head-end locomotives are electrically controlled through jumper cables. And, yes, only the lead engine has a crew. That's why William is saying that that specific locomotive saved the crew.
@@beeble2003 They are radio controlled. And he said crews, not crew, indicating he thought the other units were manned. Maybe it was just a typo.
@@larrypatty8333 Ah, right, I'd not noticed the "crewS".
Locomotives on the head end are definitely controlled by cables, not by radio. Locomotives in the middle of the train or on the end are radio-controlled, but not head-end power. Look at 1:11 in the video -- the big yellow cable held in a sort of "w" shape at the front of the locomotive is the multiple-unit connection. It's a 27-core cable that carries the control signals between the locomotives. You're seeing it there in the stowed position, presumably because the locomotive was the last in the consist, so the end we're looking at there was connected to the first car of the train, rather than another locomotive. The smaller black cables you see hanging down through holes in the top of the pilot are the locomotive brake connections. Google "US locomotive MU control" for more information -- the article at the Railway Technical Website has a lot of detail.
I said crews because the guy said hopefully there doing better now
4067 took that impact like a champ! If anything, this video gives me a huge deal of confidence that no matter what we hit - we will probably come out alive
Then don’t hit an 18 wheeler propane tanker, the results aren’t pretty.
I hate people when they cross the railroad crossing when the lights are flashing it doesn’t matter if the gates are down yet you should still stop
I would guess this is a daily occurrence. I live in Ashland, VA, and saw a tractor trailer bolting across the track as the gates were coming down. The gate actually came down on top of the trailer. I'm surprised it didn't get ripped off.
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Great video you do a great job I really enjoy them I HO scale trains I have had every size love train frights the most
@Signaltrack1 the truck did not proceed after the signals were activated. They were stopped and stalled over the tracks when the signals became activated and then did not attempt to clear the crossing up. I used to see it all the time where people were blocked inside the crossing by the gates and freeze. Little do they know those gates are lightweight and easily broken if driven through. If it were up to me as a driver, I'd rather take some scratches on my car from the gate than the scratches a locomotive will put on it as they shove it down the tracks at 40mph+. The other problem I witnessed constantly were people who were going to drive around the gates and spot the train after they've gotten around the first gate. Then they stop, put their car in reverse and try to back up. That's usually when the train strikes them! I wish I could tell them "If you're gonna be stupid, commit to the job and don't back out halfway!" because if they had kept going, I probably would have missed them.
I have a friend who works on the UP in Arizona. 2 months ago he hit and killed a mother and a daughter because she was inpatient. It really messed him up, he’s been on suicide watch for the past month or so because he keeps blaming himself for the accident. So I would definitely agree with you on that one
Thanks for the update! I always like to hear "the rest of the story."
Always great videos. Your narratives and facts and figures are always quite accurate. Keep up the good work. Very professional channel.
The units are currently sitting in Altoona they arrived this morning via 13V and will eventually be unloaded and the units will be examined further
Considering the way our court systems handle criminal matters these days, they likely accepted a plea offer from the Defendant, gave him a much lighter sentence, which was probably time already served and turned him loose before his court date was scheduled. At best we can hope he never drives anything bigger than an SUV and cannot cause this type of wreck again.
Train crewmen are rarely represented in court at a favorable level. I'd wager, the judge probably agreed that the only reason the driver was assessed criminal charges was because there were resulting injuries. Otherwise they would have just given him a ticket. Meanwhile the train crewmen who were injured got time off with no pay and are praying that someday FELA will kick in so the railroad will give them some sort of compensation. If they have to take the railroad to court, then they can never go back to work without constantly looking over their shoulder and making sure they dot ever I and cross every T so as to not get fired.
"Considering the way our court systems handle criminal matters these days"
Sorry, but plea bargains and lighter sentences for guilty pleas have been a thing _forever._
"I'd wager, the judge probably agreed that the only reason the driver was assessed criminal charges was because there were resulting injuries."
Several million dollars of property damage will also tip that scale.
"Meanwhile the train crewmen who were injured got time off with no pay"
Yeah, that really sucks. You guys really need to get your labour laws sorted out.
@beeble2003 that is true, but lately it seems like a lighter sentence is imposed so they can say they didn't overpopulate the jail. A train crewman was injured and lost pay because of a careless action of another and the only recourse they'll have is to sue their employer whose not at fault either, technically.
Love these assumed lawyers here y’all are funny
@@SD40Fan_Jason "so they can say they didn't overpopulate the jail"
LOL. You know that the USA has the sixth-highest percentage of its population in jail of any country in the world, right?
The crew got compensation while they were off work for this. Railroad retirement handles that.
It’s not full pay, but around 70% for sittin at home ain’t bad.
NS is in no hurry to repair these units as they are material evidence in court proceedings against the trucking company and NS ( for spilling diesel fuel into a creek) it will take years before that is adjudicated. NS is getting along without the wreck damaged units.
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Nice video Charlie! I got to see them when they were still derailed in Collegedale earlier this year.
I saw these go through on NS 154 On a RailCam I was surprised about it I went out to go see it was pretty cool to see
Great job. Thanks for the update.
Another interesting and complete report. Thanks for posting.
I couldn't tell if crossing signals were flashing.
IMHO he escort company failed by not advising the railroad - they should know the route in advance. Also should have measured the crossing height/load length/load clearance. In the case of an escorted load, I do'nt know who is the "Captain of the ship". A good driver would not blindly follow the escort.
When I was riding a school bus, the driver had to stop B4 the crossing, open the door and his side window, and also would holler to the kids to quiet down. He then waited, listening, for at least 30 seconds before proceeding. And he proceeded without delay.
STM had I been this driver I would stop, get on the ground and feel/listen to the rail. You can sense an approaching train. I drove 53' TV trucks with low clearance, and never crossed a hump without checking clearance. I guess it worked, I am retired now with an accident free record. I got called out as an old woman. But I retired alive and my escuchtion was unsmirched.
"I do'nt know who is the "Captain of the ship" "
The truck driver is always responsible for the safety of their truck.
"STM had I been this driver I would stop, get on the ground and feel/listen to the rail."
No. Stop and call the railroad. Don't try to figure it out yourself.
when you have a over size load you have to get a permit from the state dot..dot tells you what route you have to take....looks like trailer was stuck on the tracks...
A train just a hit semi truck yesterday in Austell,GA
They took 12R up the Washington District the other day, I imagine they’re at Juniata by now
You saw it to same I even I caught it on video
Never knew that, in 1978. I took an Amtrak to Altoona. From there I went to a small Town called Patton PA. Your story was nice to hear. I have enjoyed watching a lot of videos about trucks getting stuck on the tracks. I was a truck driver for 10 years. Sorry it was the semi's, it was the straight trucks. I respected the Trains as I crossed them.
That is not how you structure sentences.
Good footage and information, as usual!
it depends tho. If the framing is cracked, you can say bye bye to them...
The locomotives from the Collegedale TN train versus truck incident are probably gonna get fixed. In the meantime they're in the Altoona Pennsylvania shops for repairs.
1:45 What ??? he was just filming a train !
It was the driver of the truck, not the person who filmed it.
Nice and I’m at Atlanta ga now but going back home sometime tomorrow and I want to Inman yard for the first time and saw a kcs loco and 2 ups
I could swear that there’s video of at least two of the locomotives being dropped back onto their re-railed trucks and rolled away. 🤯
I think the railroads have committed to rebuilding their locomotives forever and never buying anything new again
I saw that 3 unit and it was on 12R and great video
glad that the Police not only arrested Him but also served justice to the train Crew
THE LUCKIEST CAB CREW OF A LOCOMOTIVE WAS IN 1967 IN POMONA KANSAS! A SANTA FE PASSENGER TRAIN WITH A NEW GENERAL ELECTRIC U -28-CG LOCOMOTIVE WHACKED A FULL SIZED FORD STATION WAGON AT FULL SPEED.
THE CAR ROLLED ITSELF INTO A LOG, THEN ROLLED UNDER THE PILOT PLATE AND COUPLER, AND DERAILED THE # 1 AXLE AND WHEELS.
WHAT WAS LEFT OF THE CAR ROLLED INTO A METAL LOG UNDER THE TRUCK FRAME , AND SKIDDED IT UNTIL THE STOP, SAFELY STILL ON THE RAILS.
EVERYONE IN THE CAR PERISHED, BUT THE CREW MAY HAVE HAD ONLY DIRTY UNDERSHORTS!
Awesome video thanks 😊
It's good to know these ladies will see the rails again
Great report
2:00
Are they meant to though? Usually (at least on this side of the pond) it's the escort's job to ensure safety, the truck driver is meant to follow the escort unless they tell him not to.
A csx train did the same thing but it didn't derailed luckily
Oh yea I got them on flatcars in mableton on ns 371
Can you tell me if the hump at Inman yard is still active
It didn't make the News in Australia.
So I don't know how international it was
Most of you trip'n on the old cliche of going around the signals. If you saw the video or bothered to read you'll see the trailer was already on the crossing, also if you bothered to listen to this narration it stated the driver did not coordinate with the railroads nor local police. Geeez, read before you comment!!
Great video
Great documentary
Does anyone know the song he uses in his intro?
Another Awesome Video Man! 😃👍 Off topic but, what kind of scanner do you use?
Insurance? If the truck insurance is paying the train rebuild costs or write-off replacement costs that changes it a lot. But, I suppose it comes down to how bent the frame is.
i finally saw a train again
2:28 cause container in background
Fair dinkum....those Locos will be Bonza in no Time
You keep up date about court case and what the trucking outfit on this and I much it will take repair locomotive with hard hit on this.thank about this video.
the locomotives go to Altoona PA Juniata world class locomotive repair shop!
Does anyone know if 4067 3601 and 1058 are repaired
No not yet. They were just moved the locomotive repair shop. It will be a while before you see these big boys on rails again.
Alright maybe in a couple of years they will be back on the rails again.!
I live in Altoona
You and 43,962 other people. Are you all gonna comment?
funny enough I'm starting school in the spring for Altoona's Rail Transportation Engineering Program So perhaps I will see them.
The truck drivers union probably "convinced" the judge he really wasnt guilty.
He probably wasn't working for a union carrier.
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They just now took the locomotives away?
They went to the shadow realm lol.
Is it possible for you to make a video of these engines coming into the workshop, then video as they are repaired and upgraded and then the exit from the machine shop as completed engines again ready to go back to work Thank you 👍🏿.
It's over 700 miles, an 11hr drive on a good day. I don't think he's going to go there each day to video little updates.
Yeah I'm sure these three NS locomotives will be scrapped by LTEX Rail soon.
I'm From Chattanooga
Interesting
Incidents like this are frustrating especially when these so called Truck Drivers test their luck! What was the big hurry to jeopardize so much? There were 2 accidents near me Saturday that involved the DCR short line railroad. One drove around the gates and BAMM! That person is in ICU now. Not sure about the other accident with injuries. Felt sorry for the engineer who definitely had a bad day! Please people don't test your luck with a train bcuz you'll NEVER win!
I suspect that the problem was the truck grounding or getting stuck, not running the gates. And, with a load that long, it's entirely possible that the gates came down while the truck was half-way across. They should have stopped and contacted the railroad before entering the crossing.
All because some idiot truck driver did something totally stupid.They should throw the book at him!
Wow
They need to go back to using cowcatcher but on steroids and call it truckcatcher
A large object traveling at 40-50 MPH striking a solid concrete beam would not benefit from a massive cow catcher😮
@@ohgary How common are reinforced concrete beams on the tracks compared to other obstacles? It may not always be 100% effective, but 90% justifies its use.
I thought were good for scrap but guess not
Simple. They're part of the Norfolk Southern, though the Union Pacific is apparently becoming just as bad. Oh well, ain't that 'murica... 🤔🙄
honestly glad the truck driver got arrested
im sorry for being late to this vid but wifi issues but the clip with the train vs truck tells us a reminder no matter how big the vehicle is i will never win fight against a train and i also hate it when those truck drivers with those damn freightliner Cascadia's think they can defeat a train but in reality there truck gets annihilated
And then Palestine OH
It may be yet before NS decides to do anything with those three damaged locos, but you can expect more derailments coming soon though.
It never ceases to amaze me how stupid some truck drivers can be when it comes to crossing a railroad track. If you’re pulling a lowboy type trailer across a raised railroad track crossing it seems to me you would think about possibly getting “high centered” and not cross.
An atheist caused this travesty.
Cool video. Driver of truck was a dumbass, and hope the crew are making a full recovery.
Along with new underwear when they return. 😜
Scrap 4067
Of course an illegal immigrant cause this
First
Who cares?
There is some question that the truck driver in this incident is an illegal alien and was using a fake license. You might not find local court records because it looks like the feds took him.
I hope the truck driver got arrested. This accident could have been easily prevented if he was not so careless.
i still think it should be a federal crime for a semi to cos a train crash.. these truckers know and dont care
First
Yea