Any one of the Adelson’s could have stopped what they ultimately did to Dan. Not one of them, Harvey, Donna, Charlie or Wendi have a conscience. Justice for Dan.
You're profoundly right about Donna's premeditation, Kathy, and we do need to keep that at the forefront of our minds when watching her trial. She's an affront to all of us, but especially for you and others directly affected by moral indifference. I'm so sorry for your loss and the pain that never goes away. Big hugs, Kathy.
This case is close to my heart, having lost my niece brutally in 2010, we still seek justice, my nieces case has gone cold. I’m just happy the Markels are slowly getting justice. I cannot wait for Wendi’s and Harvey’s arrest
As a clinical social worker specializing in trauma, I just want to thank you for sharing what you do about your experiences. It is so profound for other survivors to hear your story. Trauma has a way of making you think you are crazy. When you share what you do, it helps other survivors understand there is nothing wrong WITH them- it’s just that something terrible happened TO them, and see- other people go through similar things BECAUSE of it. So thank you for being brave and thank you for your relentless pursuit of justice for victims and peace to your sister’s soul.
I am always inspired by your generosity in sharing your time and experiences to illuminate the trauma and pain of others. In a world with people like the Adelsons, your example helps me have faith in the goodness of other people, which I generally believe in. ❤
Good morning! Very good chat about Premeditation. Donna could never stop her plan she set into motion because its not in her dna or life choices to “catch herself”.
Hi katie!..RASHY is just the WORST ATTORNEY ever ( and not just because i am PRO-PROSECUTION!). His "toddler style-histrionics" are just soooo offensive!..The way he YELLS at the judge waving his arms about is sheer BAFOON-ERY! tks katie!
I love hearing your thoughts, whenever they strike. You're so real and transparent. That's why your 'talks' are outward expressions of what we're all thinking. Listening to the 'alarms' of the Blue Jays in the background must mean you're onto something.
100% agreed there was plenty of opportunities for them to walk away from this and they did not. I worry that it only takes 1 juror to fall for the “little old lady” routine so Georgia and Sarah (as I am sure they will) will need to shut that down early on. Georgia did that very effectively with Charlie in her closing by reminding them he was a sharply dressed, well spoken, wealthy murderer. The same must be done with Donna
You could do closing arguements for Georgia...no joke. You succeed in putting us squarly in the mind of Donna and exposing her choices throughout. Powerful.
So much love and respect for all your time and care in the pursuit of Justice for Dan Markel ❤️ I am so very sorry for what happened to your sister as well.
❤Yes, I agree, so sorry about your sis. Tragic beyond! Enjoy your soak & day, thank you for your morning thoughts, I agree, She's going down & shou,should,, Mr. Dan cannot help her now, JDM. k.
It breaks my heart Katie that you have to live this daily. We, as decent human beings, cannot imagine plotting, planning the death of anyone. Its different than rage killing that happens in the moment. You having to wake up each day not knowing if a word or a picture will throw you right back to that awful time. Premeditation is so hard for us to understand, especially if its more than one person is involved. All it would take is one of those people to think, wait, is this something worth doing that it will change my life, my family, friends? One person. When the Adelsons, a WHOLE FAMILY, is involved, did not ONE person think, this might ruin my life, i may end up in prison? My God, for Wendi to have such power over her family that they were willing to give up their freedom, their life as they knew it? I know that God will deal with their evilness but i pray every day that they ALL pay for their planning and participation in Danny's murder. ONE PERSON, that could have put a stop to this. We need help Lord. We need a jury to put EVERY SINGLE PERSON in prison for the rest of their lives. Like you, the boys will have memories and triggers to deal with forever.😢 Im so sorry Katie.
Donna is not a shrinking violet! She is a woman of means and has had a privileged life. She thought if they never talk about it, it would just go away. It must be really hard for her in jail.
Hey Katycoolady! I am so sad that you go through "episodes" of bad memories of what Cindy went through & in turn what you have had to overcome & the 💔 that touched you & your family's lives. Thank God you are a beautiful person who has worked hard to remain pure hearted & who has not allowed these evil people to take your joy. Thank you for sharing your commentary on Donna! Hope you had a wonderful weekend with your family! Take it easy! 😊
Wow, a meditation on free meditation, and on a beautiful Sunday morning. I have to admit that you really did make me think. I hadn’t really thought about the free meditation aspect of this terrible crime. I guess I just took it for granted. Did she really, get Harvey the autopsy pictures? That’s something that I missed. Oh my God. I will be going to church later this morning, and I will certainly keep you your family, your dear sister, and all in my prayers. 🙏
I'm so very sorry for your loss. I also understand about loss although on a different level and my heart goes out to you and your loved ones. you got justice somewhat. I did not. Cowards and animals on 2 legs walk free and laws need to change in my opinion. Have a great Sunday. ❤
No fleeting thoughts of sympathy for that evil woman… I can’t begin to understand how black her soul is to contemplate and premeditate Dan’s murder… for months!!! It’s beyond me…!
Hello Katy ❤ Thinking about the fact that $ was moldy. Makes me think since the first attempt (possibly another one) failed, just adds another month for them to change their minds. What sick & wicked people. I feel strongly she will be convicted and that justice is coming for Wendi soon. Thanks for sharing your thoughts with us. Have a wonderful day 🥰🌸🌷🪻
Correct KC Lady 💕 And Rashy seems to think because this took place years ago that the case should be dismissed Its even more significant because of all the years since the crime took place that she has not giving it a “ backward glance” She as we know, how Premiditated this crime was
Wow, Katiecoolady. I’ve never really thought of Donna’s level of premeditation quite this deeply. Your insight is incredible. You do your sister’s memory justice by using the horrific story of her murder to help us all understand more fully the evil intent of murderers. This story you’ve told this morning explains why a premeditated murder of an innocent person is the most horrible crime. I hope Rashbaum hears this video. While I do believe that everyone deserves a legal defense, he has gone too far with his words of adulation about Donna. Especially when deep down, he knows the truth. I’m sure he has to suppress it to try to defend her properly, but the truth is there in the evidence he has to try to explain away.
The image of Donna discussing and planning Dan Markel's fate with her co conspirators makes my blood boil. Sympathy for sweet little granny? Donna Adelson has made it to 74 years of age. This privilege was denied to Dan Markel. Planned behind his back as he went about his daily life. I don't care if she is 'elderly and frail' - she needs to live whatever time she has left locked in a cell. The two remaining co conspirators need to be dealt with swiftly and rightly by the law. I am against the DP for various reasons, but in the case of your sister Cindy's incarcerated killer I make an exception.The planning, discussions and ultimate betrayal involved was beyond evil.
Katie So very sorry to what happened to your sister......May she rip ..... You do healthy and. Pretty women........maybe oneday Ruth and phil markell may need someone like you beside them for trial off Donna...many prayer's for you all on that day... .Frem Canada
This is why they are going down, one by one. The jury did and will continue to see right through their arrogance. They don’t even try to hide it. Dawna is practicing her pitiful old lady look for the trial but it’s just laughable. #JusticeForDanMarkel ❤️🩹🙏🏼🕊️🕯️
And to me “their” also applies to Dan Rashbaum who has been conspiring w this family in a variety of ways for nearly a decade. He’s not just giving them an adequate defense. He’s a collaborator in that arrogance - having the audacity to say to Charlie’s jury “what would Dan do?”.
@@katiecoolady_theheartspaceYes! I agree totally! AdelRASH has gone EONS beyond the obligations/responsibilities of a criminal defense attorney. His shouting & histrionics on Friday were outrageous & performative, *and for an audience of one, DONNA.* He seems to have taken a page from the Tara Kawass School of Courtroom Theatre & BUFFOONERY!🤡💩
@@MiaWallace137 yes, Mia 💯- Carl Steinbeck even brought up how Cashbaum’s courtroom decorum is so bad. I also love the comment he brought up how someone described Wendi as tying up her family on a train track and leaving them there! So evil.
Hello Katie, I wonder what spin the Adelsons have put on this tale? to tell their supporters. Anyone who has listened to each trial, can say why aren't the real perpetrators behind bars. The Adelsons had plenty of people in high places pulling for them in the beginning. I believe the Weinsteins probably got tired of constantly having to tie up loose ends. I hope they all live with the consequences of what they have done, my prayer is for Ben and Lincoln and the whole Markel Family. I pray that one day they will all be reunited.
I didn’t know Donna gave Harvey a photo from Danny’s autopsy. Did I misunderstand that? I read the article about Cindy. It was so hard to read. I don’t know how you came through in it. Your compassion for the Markels, and other victims of violent crime is remarkable. 💕
Wendi is the mastermind of this dumb crime and everyone who had any involvement in helping this get done is as responsible as if they themselves pulled the trigger.
Hi Kathy, so glad you guys had a great day yesterday & the cake sounds fantastic :) I am so sorry of the constant reminders, of the pain you have had to endure, due to those monsters. What you are describing is the “but for rule” in law. But for Donna’s actions, this murder would not have taken place. And as for AdelRASH, he is not only suborning perjury with Charlie (& perhaps Donna now ,too), but he is also encouraging it! That man knows this how impossible their stories are! I believe that years of having to coddle them, and throw his reputation in the gutter, along with any dignity he may have at one point had…. is one of the reasons he has drastically physically deteriorated since Charlie’s trial. Hypercortisolism, Rash, it’s real. And all the money they are paying you, can never make it go away. You may be rich off them, but you will not be healthy enough to enjoy it. Id quot circumiret, circumveniat.
l think Dan Markel's murd3r was primarily a business deal between Donna and Wendi. The most sociopathic narcissists of the Adelsons...Like you said, Donna would be a mom again to the two sweetest boys and Wendi wouldn't bother herself with raising the them, instead she would go back to her single life again. They wouldn't be able to do that if Dan were alive.There are other reasons as well, no Dan or Amy around the boys and financial gains.
Thank you Kathy. Another one I missed, catching up now. It was Donna who planned this entire murder and her children pushing for it to happen, they’re all guilty.
Oh my lord. They gave the autopsy photo to harvey as a gift? Literally? (I agree...rashbaum accessory after the fact. So much more than an atty. Rashbaum is a 🐛) Peace to you re your dear sister.
l am sorry for Cindy, horrible people. Also the Adelsons, imagine Donna washing money and talking to Wendi, Chawlie and Harvey about it, how tired she got etc... By the way l think the money got moldy because she must have washed it to prior to June trip. Then it didn't happened, because the 'clever' Donna didn't dry the money properly it got moldy by July.
At the moment …Donna is bloated with darkness and everything evil. Her only hope is to repent to God for taking Dan’s life…a man who was trying his best to grow closer to God…..and beg forgiveness from Ruth Markel. After reading Ruth’s book and watching her interviews…I actually think she would forgive Donna. I am so sorry concerning your sister, Kathy. 😢
I’m not comparing the crimes although there are comparisons. I’m referencing premeditation and how killlers prepare and plan and similarities there. And my own lived experience. Not “just sayin” but deeply reflecting.
Any one of the Adelson’s could have stopped what they ultimately did to Dan. Not one of them, Harvey, Donna, Charlie or Wendi have a conscience. Justice for Dan.
You're profoundly right about Donna's premeditation, Kathy, and we do need to keep that at the forefront of our minds when watching her trial. She's an affront to all of us, but especially for you and others directly affected by moral indifference. I'm so sorry for your loss and the pain that never goes away. Big hugs, Kathy.
Off topic, but I’ve been wondering what your tattoo means.
This case is close to my heart, having lost my niece brutally in 2010, we still seek justice, my nieces case has gone cold. I’m just happy the Markels are slowly getting justice. I cannot wait for Wendi’s and Harvey’s arrest
How heart breaking 💔
As a clinical social worker specializing in trauma, I just want to thank you for sharing what you do about your experiences. It is so profound for other survivors to hear your story. Trauma has a way of making you think you are crazy. When you share what you do, it helps other survivors understand there is nothing wrong WITH them- it’s just that something terrible happened TO them, and see- other people go through similar things BECAUSE of it. So thank you for being brave and thank you for your relentless pursuit of justice for victims and peace to your sister’s soul.
@@TreeseRunsOnBatteries thank you for this!
Your thoughtful commentary and deep insights lift me up. Thank you, Katie!
What would we do without your heartfelt wisdom & advocacy?❤️❤️❤️
Thank you for a pleasant morning visit, and for your perspective on Donna’s premeditation.
I am always inspired by your generosity in sharing your time and experiences to illuminate the trauma and pain of others. In a world with people like the Adelsons, your example helps me have faith in the goodness of other people, which I generally believe in. ❤
Wendi & “the banana 🍌 bread” remark is telling. Obviously not baked Kosher so why would Dan eat it? Like Mother Like Daughter. Evil to the core.
Katie you’re a true survivor,god bless you x
Good morning! Very good chat about Premeditation. Donna could never stop her plan she set into motion because its not in her dna or life choices to “catch herself”.
How profoundly sad Katie💔Prayers for your beautiful sister🙏🏻💔🕯️💙
hi katie.. i am so sorry for your loss and thankful for your profound thoughts that you share!
Hi katie!..RASHY is just the WORST ATTORNEY ever ( and not just because i am PRO-PROSECUTION!). His "toddler style-histrionics" are just soooo offensive!..The way he YELLS at the judge waving his arms about is sheer BAFOON-ERY! tks katie!
He's an annoying mosquito.
I love hearing your thoughts, whenever they strike. You're so real and transparent. That's why your 'talks' are outward expressions of what we're all thinking. Listening to the 'alarms' of the Blue Jays in the background must mean you're onto something.
100% agreed there was plenty of opportunities for them to walk away from this and they did not. I worry that it only takes 1 juror to fall for the “little old lady” routine so Georgia and Sarah (as I am sure they will) will need to shut that down early on. Georgia did that very effectively with Charlie in her closing by reminding them he was a sharply dressed, well spoken, wealthy murderer. The same must be done with Donna
Wow Katie thanks for putting premeditated into perspective
I can't wait to get your daily briefing from the trial
Tick-Tock Donna...
You could do closing arguements for Georgia...no joke. You succeed in putting us squarly in the mind of Donna and exposing her choices throughout. Powerful.
I agree! Kathy has so much insight!
Good morning ! Weather is the same here in Indiana. Very beautiful.
So much love and respect for all your time and care in the pursuit of Justice for Dan Markel ❤️ I am so very sorry for what happened to your sister as well.
❤Yes, I agree, so sorry about your sis. Tragic beyond! Enjoy your soak & day, thank you for your morning thoughts, I agree, She's going down & shou,should,, Mr. Dan cannot help her now, JDM. k.
It breaks my heart Katie that you have to live this daily. We, as decent human beings, cannot imagine plotting, planning the death of anyone. Its different than rage killing that happens in the moment. You having to wake up each day not knowing if a word or a picture will throw you right back to that awful time. Premeditation is so hard for us to understand, especially if its more than one person is involved. All it would take is one of those people to think, wait, is this something worth doing that it will change my life, my family, friends? One person. When the Adelsons, a WHOLE FAMILY, is involved, did not ONE person think, this might ruin my life, i may end up in prison? My God, for Wendi to have such power over her family that they were willing to give up their freedom, their life as they knew it? I know that God will deal with their evilness but i pray every day that they ALL pay for their planning and participation in Danny's murder. ONE PERSON, that could have put a stop to this. We need help Lord. We need a jury to put EVERY SINGLE PERSON in prison for the rest of their lives. Like you, the boys will have memories and triggers to deal with forever.😢 Im so sorry Katie.
Donna is not a shrinking violet! She is a woman of means and has had a privileged life. She thought if they never talk about it, it would just go away. It must be really hard for her in jail.
Hey Katycoolady! I am so sad that you go through "episodes" of bad memories of what Cindy went through & in turn what you have had to overcome & the 💔 that touched you & your family's lives. Thank God you are a beautiful person who has worked hard to remain pure hearted & who has not allowed these evil people to take your joy. Thank you for sharing your commentary on Donna! Hope you had a wonderful weekend with your family! Take it easy! 😊
Wow, a meditation on free meditation, and on a beautiful Sunday morning. I have to admit that you really did make me think. I hadn’t really thought about the free meditation aspect of this terrible crime. I guess I just took it for granted. Did she really, get Harvey the autopsy pictures? That’s something that I missed. Oh my God.
I will be going to church later this morning, and I will certainly keep you your family, your dear sister, and all in my prayers. 🙏
So sorry for your loss. Love your thoughts.
So sorry you have to live with the pain of losing your sister.😢
Good point - no excuse for depravity!☮&💙&⚖
I'm so very sorry for your loss. I also understand about loss although on a different level and my heart goes out to you and your loved ones. you got justice somewhat. I did not. Cowards and animals on 2 legs walk free and laws need to change in my opinion. Have a great Sunday. ❤
Good evening from Western Australia 🇦🇺 it’s 10:06 pm here ❤
Your story yesterday was hilarious!
@katiecoolady_theheartspace thanks Katie I'll need a warning next time when you do the Morgan/Tova voice 😂❤
Totally agree with your thoughts on this ❤
PS: you’re a badass
No fleeting thoughts of sympathy for that evil woman… I can’t begin to understand how black her soul is to contemplate and premeditate Dan’s murder… for months!!! It’s beyond me…!
Hello Katy ❤ Thinking about the fact that $ was moldy. Makes me think since the first attempt (possibly another one) failed, just adds another month for them to change their minds. What sick & wicked people. I feel strongly she will be convicted and that justice is coming for Wendi soon. Thanks for sharing your thoughts with us. Have a wonderful day 🥰🌸🌷🪻
Correct KC Lady 💕
And Rashy seems to think
because this took place
years ago that the case should
be dismissed
Its even more significant because of
all the years since the crime took place
that she has not giving it a “ backward glance”
She as we know, how Premiditated this crime was
Wow, Katiecoolady. I’ve never really thought of Donna’s level of premeditation quite this deeply. Your insight is incredible. You do your sister’s memory justice by using the horrific story of her murder to help us all understand more fully the evil intent of murderers. This story you’ve told this morning explains why a premeditated murder of an innocent person is the most horrible crime. I hope Rashbaum hears this video. While I do believe that everyone deserves a legal defense, he has gone too far with his words of adulation about Donna. Especially when deep down, he knows the truth. I’m sure he has to suppress it to try to defend her properly, but the truth is there in the evidence he has to try to explain away.
Great analogy.
The image of Donna discussing and planning Dan Markel's fate with her co conspirators makes my blood boil. Sympathy for sweet little granny? Donna Adelson has made it to 74 years of age. This privilege was denied to Dan Markel. Planned behind his back as he went about his daily life.
I don't care if she is 'elderly and frail' - she needs to live whatever time she has left locked in a cell.
The two remaining co conspirators need to be dealt with swiftly and rightly by the law.
I am against the DP for various reasons, but in the case of your sister Cindy's incarcerated killer I make an exception.The planning, discussions and ultimate betrayal involved was beyond evil.
You are insightful.😊
Good Morning Katie! 💕🍀🧿🌹
Anyone who knew and didn’t stop this plot, including Harvey, should be prosecuted. They all premeditated this awful crime.
Katie So very sorry to what happened to your sister......May she rip ..... You do healthy and. Pretty women........maybe oneday Ruth and phil markell may need someone like you beside them for trial off Donna...many prayer's for you all on that day... .Frem Canada
Good morning to you and yours 💕.
Hi, TY for you videos
This is why they are going down, one by one. The jury did and will continue to see right through their arrogance. They don’t even try to hide it. Dawna is practicing her pitiful old lady look for the trial but it’s just laughable. #JusticeForDanMarkel ❤️🩹🙏🏼🕊️🕯️
And to me “their” also applies
to Dan Rashbaum who has been conspiring w this family in a variety of ways for nearly a decade. He’s not just giving them an adequate defense. He’s a collaborator in that arrogance - having the audacity to say to Charlie’s jury “what would Dan do?”.
@@katiecoolady_theheartspace yes, Kathy, Cashbaum as well! 😠
@@katiecoolady_theheartspaceYes! I agree totally! AdelRASH has gone EONS beyond the obligations/responsibilities of a criminal defense attorney. His shouting & histrionics on Friday were outrageous & performative, *and for an audience of one, DONNA.*
He seems to have taken a page from the Tara Kawass School of Courtroom Theatre & BUFFOONERY!🤡💩
@@MiaWallace137 yes, Mia 💯- Carl Steinbeck even brought up how Cashbaum’s courtroom decorum is so bad. I also love the comment he brought up how someone described Wendi as tying up her family on a train track and leaving them there! So evil.
@@Jaymie4Justice I love that tied up to the train track analogy, too!
Hello Katie, I wonder what spin the Adelsons have put on this tale? to tell their supporters. Anyone who has listened to each trial, can say why aren't the real perpetrators behind bars. The Adelsons had plenty of people in high places pulling for them in the beginning. I believe the Weinsteins probably got tired of constantly having to tie up loose ends. I hope they all live with the consequences of what they have done, my prayer is for Ben and Lincoln and the whole Markel Family. I pray that one day they will all be reunited.
I didn’t know Donna gave Harvey a photo from Danny’s autopsy. Did I misunderstand that?
I read the article about Cindy. It was so hard to read. I don’t know how you came through in it.
Your compassion for the Markels, and other victims of violent crime is remarkable.
💕
Not literally but according to the State, the murder was his 70th bd gift.
@@katiecoolady_theheartspaceIt was pretty clear that you were speaking metaphorically. More so for those familiar with the timeline.
I never heard about the birthday autopsy photo. WOW 😢
@@grandmaof4811 it’s a metaphor as the state believes the murder itself was the birthday gift to Harvey
Paella 🙄
Exactly 😢
Wendi is the mastermind of this dumb crime and everyone who had any involvement in helping this get done is as responsible as if they themselves pulled the trigger.
Hi Kathy, so glad you guys had a great day yesterday & the cake sounds fantastic :)
I am so sorry of the constant reminders, of the pain you have had to endure, due to those monsters.
What you are describing is the “but for rule” in law.
But for Donna’s actions, this murder would not have taken place.
And as for AdelRASH, he is not only suborning perjury with Charlie (& perhaps Donna now ,too), but he is also encouraging it!
That man knows this how impossible their stories are!
I believe that years of having to coddle them, and throw his reputation in the gutter, along with any dignity he may have at one point had….
is one of the reasons he has drastically physically deteriorated since Charlie’s trial.
Hypercortisolism, Rash, it’s real. And all the money they are paying you, can never make it go away. You may be rich off them, but you will not be healthy enough to enjoy it.
Id quot circumiret, circumveniat.
l think Dan Markel's murd3r was primarily a business deal between Donna and Wendi. The most sociopathic narcissists of the Adelsons...Like you said, Donna would be a mom again to the two sweetest boys and Wendi wouldn't bother herself with raising the them, instead she would go back to her single life again. They wouldn't be able to do that if Dan were alive.There are other reasons as well, no Dan or Amy around the boys and financial gains.
Thank you Kathy. Another one I missed, catching up now. It was Donna who planned this entire murder and her children pushing for it to happen, they’re all guilty.
Good morning Katie!❤❤
Good morning Kathy ❤!!
I never knew your story Katie. Your sisters story. How awful…. ❤😢
I wonder just what they told the boys when uncle Charlie was convicted or even where their grama gotti is all this time???
Oh my lord. They gave the autopsy photo to harvey as a gift? Literally?
(I agree...rashbaum accessory after the fact. So much more than an atty. Rashbaum is a 🐛)
Peace to you re your dear sister.
Not literally but they discussed the murder as his 70th bd gift.
Good morning!!😊
Good morning!
l am sorry for Cindy, horrible people. Also the Adelsons, imagine Donna washing money and talking to Wendi, Chawlie and Harvey about it, how tired she got etc... By the way l think the money got moldy because she must have washed it to prior to June trip. Then it didn't happened, because the 'clever' Donna didn't dry the money properly it got moldy by July.
At the moment …Donna is bloated with darkness and everything evil. Her only hope is to repent to God for taking Dan’s life…a man who was trying his best to grow closer to God…..and beg forgiveness from Ruth Markel. After reading Ruth’s book and watching her interviews…I actually think she would forgive Donna. I am so sorry concerning your sister, Kathy. 😢
Ps. Are you still working on all the frozen Ita.ian food? 😊
@@karennaumann3408 lol.- no it’s all still there tempting us to
❤️
Sorry to disagree, there is no comparison to your sisters murder and Dan's, I have followed both - just sayin'
I’m not comparing the crimes although there are comparisons. I’m referencing premeditation and how killlers prepare and plan and similarities there. And my own lived experience. Not “just sayin” but deeply reflecting.
@@katiecoolady_theheartspace Of course, I understand both horrible murders. I have been invested in most
Both were incredibly insidious 💯