WHAT IS UP WITH PAUL STANLEY'S VOICE?
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- What is up with Paul Stanley's voice? Is this the end of the road?
Peter Vox the director and principal teacher of Vox Singing Academy has been a professional singing teacher since 1993 and has taught numerous professional singers with major label recording contracts.
In this video Peter gives his professional opinion about Paul Stanley and Gene Simmons vocals from KISS.
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Paul Stanley's voice was incredible at over 50 years singing for KISS...he is 72 now ,and all is changing with getting elder...also for the 'Starchild'...
Paul has had an amazing voice for decades. He's toured none stop it seems like with little breaks in-between.. Probably one of the hardest working bands in the world has alot to do with his voice along with other issues that comes with age..
@@thomascavanaugh5895 Paul actually ruined his voice when he played Phantom of the Opera. They had him learn a different technique. I've seen KISS over 75 times with the first being when I was 8 in 1977. There's no way this was Paul live as it sounded great.
I have to disagree with hum ruining his voice with learning to sing differently for Phantom. He sand properly during that run, and that won't ruin your voice. My opinion is when he first had the vocal surgery, he didn't take enough time off. He had the procedure and then was at on tour within that same year. I wanna say 6 mths but I can't remember. He should've taken off a year and then work with a vocal coach to make sure he wasn't damaging his voice. It was weird, I saw him on his solo tour, and he sounded amazing, and then just 2 years or so later he started having serious issues. It just happened so quick. But Paul will never say what was wrong and/or what happened. He keeps a wall up between the public and his personal life.
What; up with his voice? The guy's 70 years old. For almost 50 years he has sang in a way that's not easy on your voice.
That’s true but he shouldn’t talk about Ace or Peter then
Yeah ,you hear that Sammy Hagar?
Paul Stanley is one of my favorite singers of all time. Major vocal problems were evident since at least 2008. By 2018, his voice was basically completely shot. His performance of Love Gun in Barcelona that year is an example. On the 2018 KISS Kruise he started miming to backing tracks. He sometimes sings some of the vocals - such as the first verse of Detroit Rock City. These tracks were then used starting on the End of The Road tour that started in 2019 and continues until December 2023. th-cam.com/video/VPDFQoqLN40/w-d-xo.html
Indeed.I noticed it on the Rock the Nation tour in '04.
A little bit of cracking and a little less power in his vocals than all the previous times I had seen them.
Musically they were SO tight though.And outside.So they played LOUD!🤟🎶
And they played a deep cut on that tour.
Love Her All I Can.
Tommy tore my head off with that lead!😉🤟🎶
Age and mileage have surely played a role, but his voice was as good as ever before Phantom of the Opera and he hasn't been the same since.
I don't know if those vocals damaged his voice, or the training for that style of singing destroyed his natural talent. 🤷 But I don't think it's a coincidence.
This was the "Kiss 2020 Goodbye" concert in Dubai. They took all kinds of protocols to make the show happen.
I would say 1985 to 1989 was Paul's singing peak where he was hitting incredible notes.
I think it started to decline around the reunion tour.
He sounded good until '04.
The Alive IV show in Melbourne.Then.I saw them in '04.
I noticed a little bit of cracking and weakness on the Rock The Nation tour.
R.I.P. Pauls voice.😪
Well, I think Paul ´s voice started going away just in Animalize tour. I remember in 1984 I started to think ''this guy is not the super full power guy we have seen in the 70´s...'' . Nevertheless, Paul, you are GREAT!!
i agree in the voice. I think those incredible notes he was hitting is what screwed his voice.
85 to 89 was a lot of vocal gymnastics. Just because he could didn't mean he should.
It served him well when he started singing I was made for loving you differently. Made it a whole different song
Stutter in donnington 1988 was the absolute peak imo
If you listen to the early kiss albums and the 80s kiss albums now what I noticed about the 80s kiss albums is that not only are they some of my faveroutes but vocally wise seem a lot more challenging to sing and certainly combine that with the constant touring over the years it has definatly taken a big toll on Paul’s voice but I’ll give him credit up till a few years ago kiss had been doing fantastic shows and you could tell it was live not pre recorded
I think the 1980s higher octaves are what screwed his voice.
As far as the lisp, I've noticed that since the '70s. I always attributed it to his microtia and being deaf in one ear. I am no speech expert but I noticed that many hearing-impaired people have a similar impediment. Regarding his voice, his "stage" voice is very different, much higher, than his speaking voice. It must have been a strain over the decades. His recent Motown covers album, where he sings in a more relaxed voice, seems to me to be more in his range, for lack of a better term.
I think the lisp has become more pronounced since having teeth worked on. That happens to a lot of people. Affects tongue position
Paul performed one of THE most challenging vocal roles EVER when he played in Phantom of the Opera.
Not just any vocalists gets asked to OR can do that.
He pushed and belted out his voice in smoke filled clubs,arenas and through stage smoke for 30 + years before it took its toll.
R.I.P. Pauls voice.😪
@@thomascavanaugh5895 I kinda wish they stopped in '04.Then did some surprise shows or residencies here and there.Could have been a better "ending" to the bands legacy.
I'm glad I've seen them several times.Last 2 times,Pauls voice was really shot.😔
@@thomascavanaugh5895 I don't know how Paul and Gene maintain their balance in those boots.😳Tommy and Eric are not kids either.62,65.
And costumes,lights,etc...can't even imagine.I get winded mowing my small lawn which only takes 30 minutes.😮
Rock and Roll All Night!
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@@thomascavanaugh5895 They were HORRIBLE in '88?
Why?
That performance is him using tracks. That's not his live voice.
Also, this was after having most of 2020 off due to the pandemic. I think their tour was postponed in February. So Paul's voice was rested.
Thank you for watching and thank you for the information!!
It happens to most musicians, I feel. The only one he was able to preserve his a good majority of his power was Dio. I mean, my favorite vocalist Phil Anselmo, he can barely sing anything from the Pantera days. But thousands upon thousands of shows, coupled with age and distortion/falsetto will do that to you.
Paul does have some hearing issues because he was born with a defect where one of his ears didn't develop properly.
And it's funny that you noticed that Gene wasn't singing the right lyrics. It's a well known fact that Gene forgets the lyrics to their songs, and quite often.
this concert was 2020 and 2020 was Paul Stanley 68 years i tips you to listen on I Still Love You live 1994 and hear his voice
There was a time when Paul had one of the best voices in rock. His vibrato was so natural. His tone was very easy on the ears.
Hardly
This was the NYE concert in Dubai. Done in various lockdowns. Audience watching from the hotel!
He is 70 yearss old like a joke.. God bless the best Frontman ever Paul Stanley..
You're working with a singer who was born with one ear. Amazing in its own right that he was able to front a band. The years and his style of singing has just aged and worn his voice to a point that we hear now. Stayed at it too long. There was a time he was in tune and his voice was a perfect example of a great, hard rock voice but that was many years past.
Paul Stanley has always had a lisp. Go watch his interviews throughout the decades. I was lucky enough to meet him during the filming of Detroit rock city. He is a stand up dude! I’ve seen kiss play live and also saw Paul Stanley when he was in Toronto performing the Phantom of the opera! I wish I could sing half as good as he does today at 71 !
there’s not many rock stars from the 70s who have kept their voices going all the way to today like Paul Stanley has! Dudes voice is legendary!🤘🏽
Did you meet the guys in the band that were the "doubles" for KI⚡⚡?
I knew the drummer,Andrew.
We were friends in school and when we were 20 somethings.😮🤭
Pauls a workaholic and never took any real extended breaks through his career.
Couple that with being 70 yrs old and it's easy to understand why his voice is shot.
Wow!. I didn't know that. I didn't know he was an alcoholic. I thought he was clean living, now!
@@voxsingingacademyHe said WORKAHOLIC dude!
Geezus.😮
That's Ace who's clean living now
@@pattymacleod1210 He doesn't sound like he's clean.He's sloppy.Playing.Talking.
Too many years of abuse.😒
Your comments are to kind.
It's kind of hard to critique Paul Stanley... He's much older and still kills it
Don't think I've seen a more obvious lip sync job. His speaking voice is shot to heck but his singing voice is smooth as silk. That's believable.
it’s tuned one step down from the original, nowadays they’re playing in the D tuning.
almost every single one fo their song is recorded in D# but in the 80s they played a couple of shows with the E tuning
Eric doesn’t wear a wig … he dye’s his hair , definitely not a wig
Paul only has one ear so saying something about his hearing isn’t going to change anything. He’s older and his voice is gone.
Paul has been singing live is 71 years old.
He has been giving 100% each night. He has nothing else to prove.
Paul flies on a cord across the arena on this song.
He cant hit the high notes like he used to.
Roger daltry and some others are maybe a slight younger,,,but kiss hasnt stopped touring for 50 years. Its just wear and tear. Like kiss or not, they remain one the biggest and most influential bands of all time
I think Paul sounds great especially for his age. Ain't nobody should be talking crap about his voice till you've done what he's done
Thankfully most aren't as naive about Music as you.
Long story short Paul's voice packed in sometime in 2008. Which is when kiss should have called it a day. I was lucky enough to see Paul's solo tour in Sydney and he blew the roof off the house that night vocally speaking. Now that was Feb 2007. I still remember watching letterman 2009 and it was the first time I became aware his voice was having problems. He was in my opinion the greatest singer in rock before that. I mean he played the phantom in phantom of the opera for 6 months so the guy could once sing opera
I remember Animalize tour, in 1984, I started realizing his voice started going away. Paul´s voice in 1984 was not the super full power voice and ''I do what I want voice'' that the guy had in the 70´s.
I dislike critics, what have you done with your singing that comes close to what Paul has done. Seriously, let's see you do this level of performance in your seventies.
This is a difficult one to analyze, imo. Paul lip syncs a lot nowadays and even if this is a live performance, it’s certainly touched up. You can hear him getting snapped into pitch by some species of autotune. Analyzing modern live performances can be quite a chore
I noticed the auto tune and pitch correcting too lol
Hi! Paul is Lip Syncin' at this show 95% of the setlist. I love Paul and he was one ons the best singers in the world, But sadly is the Truth... He is using Live Tracks from 2018 to today (2023). He pre recorded all his voices on studio and you can notice the autotune and the diference when he is singind Live (For example: Detroit Rock City starts, then start the lipsyncin') Nice Video. And even you can notice that he is singing falsetto doing a mimic and a few times you can hear the double voice... Nice Video!
More problems at 14:00. Eric drops his drumstick and Gene plays a terrible out of key fill.
Paul Stanley used to have a great voice, but I think he was in his late 60s when they did this show, so maybe it's understandable that he couldn't sustain the high notes. Also, he was born with microtia, which affected his outer ear and his hearing on one side.
Roger Daltrey is much older than Paul and managed to maintain his voice fairly well and the reason is he's taken care of it over the years. So it's not always age.
Thank you for watching!
He's had one, maybe two operations on his vocal cords and he is deaf in one ear. His stage voice is much different than his speaking voice i find. If you haven't heard him at his peak,you should. Listen to MTV Kiss Unplugged and listen to Forever
Paul Stanley is one of the very best front men ever.. whether you believe it or not, that's okay but that is my opinion..
Ti si ljubomoran na njega jer je bolji od svih vas. U njegovim zlatnim godinama privlacnije je od svih. Jedan je jedini Paul Stanly
and you said “probably he has some ear issues”, yeah he does. he is deaf from one ear to another
Ever since he got veneers he's had that lisp. And by the way he uses tracks. So if u look closely you will catch him stepping away from the mic before his vocals end or missing his cue. And their in Dubai.
Thank you so much for all of the information. Stay safe.
To Mr. VOX Singing academy. I wish at the risk of upsetting some of your commentors, that you would clear up once and for all "age" and singing. Many of these apologists here are thinking that a rocker cannot maintain a very high level of singing well into their life. You have soooo many comments that are saying "but he is 70 years old"
I would think it would be your job to straighten these folks out.
So here is a list of rock singer's that are up and some waaaaay up in their years that still bring it.
Tommy Shaw (Styx), Derek St. Holmes (Ted Nugent Band), Robin Zander (Cheap Trick), Steven Tyler, Glen Hughes, Tom Johnston (Doobie Brothers), Dennis DeYoung (formerly of Styx), Joe Lynn Turner, Roger Daltry (The Who),
Alice Cooper, Jack Blades (Night Ranger), last but not least is Paul's bandmate Gene Simmons
and the list goes on and on and on.
Thank you!
Yes totally agreed. The above singers is still bring it. Thank you for your comments and for watching.
It's just a full step down, its been that since sometime 2011/2012
Age may be the reason why a voice loses it's strength but it's not he reason for singing totally off key.
Go and watch Glenn Hughes und you'll find proof of what an outstanding voice you can have even in your 70s.
Yes Glenn Hughes is still amazing. I love Glenn Hughes.
Pauls voice is just broken. It has been for a while. It's painful watching him try to sing. I was actually surprised that Pauls voice went before Genes. Gene still has his voice.
This show was filmed in the middle east during covid...that's why there's no audience...Paul also has ear damage from when he was young.
Perhaps Paul had some new caps/crowns - that often causes a breathy lisp.
Understand something! Paul was in his 70'S!😱
Really? Is he that old
Might have new teeth from photos I've seen online. Could explain the lisp
Very interesting! Great pick up. Thanks for watching!
Only one issue is paul stanley is lip syncing on stage these days 🤷♂️ pre recorded tracks
DANDENONG:MUSICAL CAPITAL OF OZ! LOL!
the drummer needs a new wig thats for sure .... he also needed to get his own idenity #petercrisstherealcatman
Over the years its definitely gotten worse im a huge kiss fan and have played alot of there songs over the years in cover bands on the drums its sad to hear him struggle he was great for along time but not anymore im sorry to say They have more money then just about ever band time to call it quits for sure they should have been done after the 1996 1997 reunion tour and gone out on top in style jeff from saint francis mn
Both verses are lip synced. They were only a half step lower than the record. Original key-Eb. Live key-D
Okay! Thank you very much for the information. Thank you for watching
he does have a lisp. Saw him in 96...and he had a lisp then and it surprised me as well
No he doesn’t
@@RobFultz-f8w look it up, he does. ive also heard it and im a Speech Pathologist as well
@@RobFultz-f8w He does, im sorry to let you down Im a specialist in the area and ive heard him live as he talks to the crowd at the top of his lungs...he has one
He's always had that lisp
Really? I've never noticed it
piped in vocal ?
Ngl that backing track or paul's chorus vocals sound tuned to hell (and with tuned I mean like production went over the vocals)
No joke
Paul can't hit the notes because he croons now and doesn't want to go out of tune
Sadly, most of what your hearing is pre-recorded. He doesn't sing all his songs live anymore. Only 2-3 per show. That said have a listen to my voice. I don't practice that much. Maybe you could use one of my songs for training (on what not to do!)
It was done in the heights of covid .Thats why the people were in hotel rooms .
That explains it! Thank you for watching and thank you for letting me know.
fake cat and ace...that was the end of the road....
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I think the lisp is the result of being deaf in one ear since birth.
Dude you tour for 50 yrs and see how you sound and also everyone knows about Paul's ear
The problem with Paul Stanley's voice is he was never a proper singer. Paul was a screamer and he has screamed into a microphone for 50 yrs. Paul never took proper care of his voice and he never used proper singing techniques. Now I know Paul had surgery on his vocal chords but that was because he didn't properly care for his voice. Other singers in his age range don't have problems with their voices because they took care of themselves. Kiss needed to retire about 15 yrs ago.
Thomas, in part you do NOT know as much as you think you do. Paul most certainly DID have proper technique and he gives the credit I believe to SLS Speech Level Singing. It is well known that Paul was a student of SLS of which was Seth Riggs outfit. I recall hearing Paul give credit a LOT to his proper technique as a result of his training with SLS. If I am not mistaken this was around the reunion tour or possibly before but Paul would always get hit with the question of how he kept his voice in such good shape. And the answer would always be the same.
Okay,so....He's not even joining in the chorus....Eric/Gene are doing it,so it's a hard pass on my part.
Paul is deaf on one ear.
His speaking voice is basically Roger Rabbit. And now you can't unhear it. Sorry, not sorry.
you do know paul Stanley is deaf in one ear, since birth, right?
I didn't know that, but it hasn't affected his voice in the past. Thank you for watching
BS listen to his peak!
HE'S 70 YEARS OLD, FOR CRYING OUT LOUD!🤬
So is Graham Bonnet, or Arthur Brown alm 80, still signing as good as ever!
These are a bunch of old men, probably hit musical menopause and have harmonic imbalances. He's down a full step at least. I think he does have a lisp. Maybe Gene bit his tongue and he felt the pain?
Please prestani revati!!!!!! Falshas
Paul is also deaf in one ear. He has microtia.
doesn't sing well at all.. never liked him. He's as David Lee Roth And Anthony Kiedis.
In the 80s and 90s he was one of the greatest singers in rock. Completely different voice to now.
WRONG!
I was four minutes into this video before I had to cut it short... Dude your trying to analyze human behavior...one certainly , the ability to sing. His voice isn't the same as it was in his youth . But neither was yours, but the difference between is .
When you are constantly critical of all other bands and even your own band mates. Carma may come to you. Paul has had horrible things to say and I.M.O. he is paying the price. That was a Covid show. Funny they screwed the fans who payed for V.I.P. packages.
Paul was miming it Peter!
No! Really? I'm so disappointed.
@@voxsingingacademy Bits & pieces anyway! That vocal sound way too produced at the start.
In the early days, its said they froze his vocal cords for the show because he'd lose his voice 20 min in to thw show. I've never heard of that being done. I would think that'd hurt more than help. Idk. I think it was Bill Aucoin who said it.
I'd love to know my vocal range loo😂
Sto neanaliziras Axl Rosessa?????
I have seen Kiss a few times and could tell that Paul is not singing 100% of the time. A few times during a show it is obvious, but so what? The band is playing (piano for Beth is the exception) the whole time. Paul sings 95+% of the time. They entertain their fans and give it their all. If Paul lips a little here and there, a) after 50 years he's earned it, b) they want to sound their best, c) still give a kick ass performance, d) so what?
Paul lip sync's 95% off the time
You wanted the best and you got the best!
Yes The Palm Jumeirah, Atlantis Hotel & resort, I can confirm 😎. Paul is an entertainer and KISS are a bussiness. Yes a great show if even using two members dressed as ex members, hey it’s all about the brand.
Backing vocals are definitely tracked, I guess Gene and Paul needed that security. Great observations and criticism, all on point, Paul is getting old but he’s still a great front man & that original vocal in the bridge is damn high!
All I can say is, seeing them in ‘96 here in Australia with Ace and Peter was the bomb.
Still, ( and as you stated ) credit must be given for their hard work and quality show, Gene and Paul after all were the ones who started the whole empire that is KISS.
Thanks Peter.
👏👏👏👏
Great but 1995 was a better show with Kulick and Singer.
Thank you mate. Thank you for confirming the venue.
Gene is KISS' money making brains......he'd probably has the vision to keep it going like a corporation with new younger members performing the KISS catalogue for the decades to come to carry on with the KISS legacy. BTW after your performance on The Voice you should be elevated to the rank of Sergeant.......I dub thee not the unforgiven.....I dub thee Darren 'Sergeant'. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Yes but did you see the kiss mtv unplugged? Flawless if you ask me