Exactly, she's getting off on the control and apparently dislikes op's wife and brother's wife. I wouldn't be surprised if she's getting off on humiliating the poor girls.
Heard this story and my first thought was "MIL peaked in hs when she was nominated for homecoming queen (didn't win, just nominated)". It's some queen bee ish, but it can be very hard to call out, but damn do we need to start calling it out because it's honestly pathetic when we've got grown women in their 60s acting worse than Regina George. Don't get mad, don't yell, just point out how stupid and immature they look.
Wow!! I didn't think OP could get worse, but hearing that update. He and his brother are both mumma's boys and it's baffling that either of them have wives. This has been going on for years. OP's wife finally had enough. Calling the wife a bad influence is ridiculous
Well, they're the special baby boys who can do no wrong in mommy's eyes, so why would they want ish to change? Honestly, I feel like we're gonna get an update where the OP is confused af why his wife left him and his brothers wife left him, and their mom just says they're crazy and better off or whatever.
When you grow up in a patriarchal home where it's encouraged that the women fight each other, it's no wonder that any and all men will end up feeling special and entitled. OP's wife and brother's wife should contact OP's mother and ask for samples of the dinner, explaining that they're checking if it's acceptable for their tastes and worth attending or if they'll be attending their respective family's dinners instead. If MiL is offended... well, that's just the way the cookie-that-didn't-make-the-cut crumbles, isn't it?
@@remembertobreathe66 OP's wife and SIL should just host their own dinner party. And if the Hubby's don't attend they can always find new husbands for next year.
Momma boys don't provide the real updates when their wives divorce them, should be pretty clear even from the mini update he doesn't see anything wrong with what MIL is doing.
@@sws212 sadly, heck my brain was just thinking, "what if she had hubby make some cookies and send them instead? would momma still deny?" but then again that'd probably be just as cruel >>
*Story 1:* LMAO- the SIL is backing out too, and OP is like “Damn, my wife is staging a coup d'état” instead of thinking, “Maybe SIL is backing out because my mother did the same thing to her as she did my wife?”
The update on #1 cracked me up. He's wringing his hands, acting like "Oh no! The women are starting to become self-aware!" 🤣I love to bake, but It'd be a cold day in hell before I audition my baking for a family dinner. She really is a holiday tyrant, and her sons are idiots. I hope there will be more updates!
It would be a cold day in hell before I'd even entertaining the idea that my wife would have to audition for bringing food over. I'd ask my mom if she was serious, then tell my wife, then call my mom and tell her "I'm going to my wife's parents for Christmas. We're also baking some deserts and bringing them over the homeless shelter. We're thinking of making a yearly tradition out of it."
Story 1: If OP's brother is as equally rude, dismissive, and mama's boy-ish as OP then they can comfort each other while they both go through divorces, but look on the bright side you both have plenty of time to request sample dishes from the family for your divorce party menus!
Definitely this! Seriously, wth is up with this sample bs it's a family get together not a contest/art exhibition. Heck even Gordon Ramsey would tell the OPs mother to knock her crap off. The fact that both the OP and his brother are so oblivious and uncaring of their wives feelings just tick me off even more..... hope the wives wise up and get out...hate to think how MiL would behave around the grandkids....
Story 1: "I don't know how this got out of control so quickly." It wasn't quick, and it got out of control the second that samples were demanded for testing years ago. Even if the mom were a professional cook, that would only create the expectation that she make all the food by herself (since obviously few people meet her standards). The fact that two wives have now dropped out leaves me hopeful this will lead to a mass exodus where many people choose to spend the holidays with the other side of their family.
The exact same line stood out to me. It was already out of control. People are just finally beginning to reign in the tyrant. Hopefully they can finally get her under control.
Tbh I was fully expecting the husband to tell his wife to make as many cookies as she wanted because they’re bringing them regardless of what mother-in-law says. That would’ve made him NTA. But no instead he shows the world just how naïve and thickheaded he is
Story 1, she wasn't unreasonable. I get the feeling that MiL is evil and dislikes op's wife. Your egg donner isn't just about the guests, she's getting off on having the power to exclude someone and is picking on your wife. Your mom is vile for how she's treating your wife and is a tyrant. It's called that MiL is going to get overthrown because of how she's treating their wives and the fact that the husbands don't realize this shows that their blind to their mom's insane behavior.
Right? Like he had the balls to say his wife is crazy and unreasonable but his MOM isn't?! And that update, obviously OP STILL doesn't get it! Nor does his idiot brother. It's 100% obvious she's a MIL from hell and just hates her daughters-in-law.
@@mandymcnalis7551 it makes me mad when someone like that keeps posting updates when their not reading the comments and realizing that they are dumb and blind to not see that THEY are the ones being unreasonable plus that their parent is also evil for treating their spouse like that.
@@onepieceisking5493 I feel for his wife and sister-in-law. Your partner should have your back. Like how does he NOT see how sh*tty his mom is being to his wife?! How can he hear his wife *crying* bc of his mom's actions and still side with his mom?! He's a straight-up momma's boy and obviously doesn't actually *love* his wife.
If the two daughters-in-law go and celebrate with their own families, it may start a rebellion that other offended family cooks may join. Mother-in-law may be dethroned. We can only hope.
Lol I'd have bought cookies from MIL favourite bakery and box it as mine. When she rejects it I'd decline going, tell all the family why and present exhibit A.
I'd send her a box of cookies laced with laxatives... or "creme de testicle" if you get my drift. And on top of it I'd call those kinds of cookies "Jack in the box"es.
Story #1: I learned a long time ago that if you are not going to make all of the food yourself, then you graciously accept whatever is brought. If I were OP's wife, I might have made something which I was sure to make a "sample" which was sure to make MIL sick, but nothing permanent.
@@JoelPerry1 probably right. I would've tested it by putting someone else's name (if possible) on the sample or switching it to one of the faves. If she picks mine with a different name, you KNOW that's her game.
@@khaleesireyna731 I agree that's the best solution. Because if MIL still doesn't like it, I wouldn't say she's in the clear, but she at least has a leg to stand on
That was a quick update lol... MIL is TA... Stop demanding samples... Those comments were dumb saying Cook Something Else Because Baking Sweets Isn't The Only Thing while excluding her from cooking anything and constantly denying their stuff... They just can't read
Really hope we get another update soon. So for now it's his wife and SIL. Wonder if any of the other ladies even those "chosen" will decide to back out do to this showcase for mom's cooking approval.
I think the husband has become too used to his mother's overbearing ways. He definately isn't supporting his own wife. Perhaps the best thing is for people in the family to divide between the MIL's gathering and an alternative gathering, where people can sign up for what they want to bring, then continue to have the two gatherings for each holiday. Otherwise, they will have to wait for the old bat to die to have any freedom.
I think all the rejected female family members get together bake their cookies and drink margaritas without the rest of the family. Have their own tradition.
Story 1: what is wrong with the mother and her sons? I've never heard of anyone requiring samples of pot luck items so the hostess can judge them. That family should be committed for psychiatric evaluation.
Now I love my momma my wife always said she knew I was a good one based on how I treat my Mom, with that said if my Mom ever even suggested my wife send a sample I would laugh in her face and tell her we will save her the trouble and not bring anything. This Op needs to learn how be a partner to his wife.
Taste Test OP: Dang. I was hoping for an update where the female relatives deliberately switched food items, then publicly revealed the truth after Mommy made her choices. Ah well, at least the DILs got a clue even if her sons are still in Mommy's pocket.
Ooooh, yasssss! Or better yet, if BIL (B**ch-in-Law) had a favorite local bakery with cookie items that they knew she liked, go out and buy some and send a sample of THOSE. Then when BIL rejects them, go to the Xmas dinner and do the big reveal. “Why, , I was just so overwhelmed this year I just decided to send some cookie samples from the bakery I KNEW you liked. Are you saying you don’t like them anymore?”
"I don't know how this got out of control so quickly"...It has ALWAYS been out of control but for some reason everyone has just accepted the abuse, control and manipulation of the mother. The wife should have bought the best cookies in town and sent as her sample, and when she was rejected she could have shown how ridiculous her MIL is.
Op mom’s trouble just the tip of the iceberg for Op mom now that people are starting to talk and band together only two now but there will be more and it will end with her at the bottom for her entitlement
Instead of cookie samples, the wives should collectively serve divorce papers with a bow on the day of the Christmas feast. I'm sure that's the gift momster dearest has wanted since both her speshul baby boys got married.
Story 1: Couldn't have been me. OP's wife needs a new husband and a new MIL, since OP can't understand how hurtful his dear mommy is. Story 2: No wonder why OP ended up getting divorced. I don't understand why people like OP are only concerned about themselves, and can't see why they should help out other people once in a while. Glad she got kicked out.
Last story: If I caught a child pulling my dog’s tail they’d be lucky if all they got was barked at. I’d be tempted to yank on their ears or hair to see how they enjoy that feeling.
I'm gonna be honest, I have done this when my niece and nephew pull their cat's tail. They still haven't learned not to do it. Some kids just never learn, apparently.
I know, right? The *only* times I've pulled an animal's tail is when I'm reaching under my sister's bed for my cat (he's not supposed to be in her room) and that's all I could reach. And it's not so much "pulling" as "holding in place while I try to ease him into a better grabbing position."
The kid is lucky to survived unharmed, Mastiffs could kill a grown person in one bite, and All the dog did was barking and growling. It sounds scary, but he was a good boy, and just warned the abusing strangers of.
@@brigidtheirishCan relate, though in my case it’s my dog. He’s normally very obedient but every once in a while he turns into, you know, a *dog* and tries to run away (he sees me with a comb or bolts for the open door to greet a delivery person), and my lack of reaction time means I end up with a handful of his tail.
@@JennA-uf6lo Hoo boy, yeah. Trying to wrangle a determined animal into something it doesn't want to do or *away* from something it wants to do is almost harder than trying the same thing with a toddler. At least you have a chance of *negotiating* with the toddler.
The custody story. Why OP didn't spot the huge red flag is just unbelieveable. First question I would have asked is 'why not?' Then listened to her reasoning. But tbh, it is not a situation I have ever been in, so that is just my personal opinion.
Maddie story NTA. The nerve of that woman calling herself mother in front of the actual mom. You better get this sorted. This might be grounds for custody to be rearranged. Maddie is the one being disrespectful and SEVERELY so.
Except that op wasn't wrong that they have the right to refuse, especially if it wasn't in their agreement of staying there. It's more of an ESH thing.
@@jedimasters1462 Nope. Nope. Nope. This was an emergency. Reddit doesn't live in the real world usually with their 'not my kids, not my problem.' Emergencies happen. OP SHOULD have watched the kids as a human being helping out people who have given them a free place to live! WTF is wrong with you that you wouldn't help someone in need, especially people helping you! Apparently OP doesn't help with simple chores either. Yes, OP had the right to refuse, but more than that, OP should have expected this would be the hill his brother would die on and finally kick his freeloading ass out of there! It was an ACTUAL emergency. Thankfully she was alright but that was NOT the time to argue.
@@dementedqueen4392 I never said that op shouldn't watch the kids, only that she had the right to refuse. I've had to watch my nieces and nephews for emergencies and I've even called into work once to watch the youngest for his mom to go to work. There is a difference between helping because it's right and helping because you are being forced. The reason I'm saying ESH is because op could have helped while the brother should have respected her saying no (especially as it was clear that op shouldn't be left alone with the kids anyway). Also, someone should have the right to say no without the fear that they would be kicked out if they do. Neither are fully innocent or guilty.
@@jedimasters1462 See? That restores my faith in humanity that you help your sibling out in a tight jamb. We do these things not because we have an agreement or have to be forced, but we WANT to do them as good human beings that want to help those around us (while not being a doormat). However, I don't think this was a situation someone was being forced into. Emergencies come up and a person shouldn't have to be forced to do something but WANT to do something because it's for the good of everyone. Technically you are right - the brother should not have kicked her out for refusing to watch the kids, and yes, if the sister really doesn't want to watch the kids and is that much of an AH about watching kids, then yes, it's probably a good idea they don't watch your kids for your own kids' sake, HOWEVER I stand by the fact that the sister SHOULD have done that to help the people who have so graciously been helping her (she could have taken them to her parents). And in the end, I am very glad they did kick her butt out. Why? Because you can not, under any circumstances, have someone who is so obviously a huge user around your family. It's not good for the kids, it's not good for the wife (the wife has to ask the OP to do things around the house - these are things OP should be doing without having been asked because they are staying somewhere for free and once again, it's the right thing to do), and it's not good for the harmony in the house. I really don't think this is an ESH situation. But I hope you can see where I am coming from. Reddit always says you don't have to do something you don't want to do but they never talk about when you SHOULD do them.
Mastiffs are pretty chill dogs. My neighbor’s mastiff used to come visit us every day for pets. But the first time he came bounding right through my open door to the living room where we were sitting was a bit of a start! Fortunately he was a sweetheart. I think we were as upset as his owner when someone stole him.
There are a few breeds of mastiffs that are...less than chill. They'll bond to one human and that's it; everyone else is tolerated at best. But usually, yeah; they're pretty relaxed, unless specifically trained otherwise (guarding, ect). I'm so sorry about your sweet squishy boi~
@@alexisgrunden1556 yeah my mastiff is the same. She is bonded to my mom mostly and everyone else in the house is just people who give her treats and feed her 😂😂😂. Outside guest are viewed with suspicion and she is extremely protective. We do not have guest over as when she was adopted from the shelter, two weeks later was the lockdown for COVID and she didn’t get the proper socialization that she needed.
i met a large mastiff that was just interested in the dog treats in my coat pocket, like he really stood in front of me kind of expecting treats. i did not give him one since he was with a dog walker pack.
Ambulances easily cost $800, sometimes 1000s and OP wants that unnecessary expense. They asked you to watch the kids to go to the hospital. You made your decision and they made theirs. OP keeps saying they should respect her decision, they can respect her decision and STILL kick hurt out for being an AH. OP is using these words but doesn't know what they mean.
Lol OP realized that reddit isn't real life and living rent free as an adult is a privilege with certain obligations if you don't want to get evicted. "Not my kids, not my problems" is such a ridiculous phrase to tell family who you are staying with and just had an emergency.
Last story, I'd tell the mom, that "If she tries to sue me, I have her dead to rights on trespassing and assault on my dog. Let's play chicken and see who flinches first huh? I have witnesses that will tell i told you no, yet you did it anyways and i have the proof of the assault". might even tell her all my security cameras are miced just so she has something to worry about
The fact that all the dog did was bark and growl actually proves that the dog is trained. Mastiffs are huge and can really do damage if you are bitten by them. Playing, pulling or really doing anything to a dog’s tail is a sure fire bet you are going to be on the receiving end of something unpleasant. The mom and kid were told “no” and were told why and yet trespassed into the house and abused the dog. The lady is lucky OP didn’t contact the police and press charges. People that think they have a right to pet someone’s dog really irritate me.
Lol...YTA... if ANYONE insisted I get pre approval on the dish / dessert for a family meal, I'd have opted out of the "competition" from the 1st time. MIL is an AH. Husband is an AH.
Dog Story: You *never* pull a dog's tail. The biggest proof that OP's dog is well trained is that the kid *wasn't* bit or scratched. What the *hell* was that mother thinking? Was she *trying* to start a lawsuit?
Our dog is pretty well trained but i never claim 100% that he won't bite and I do still keep him away from kids in certain situations. though that is more because he is an elephant in a porcelain shop when he is excited then i fear he will bite. he will bowl kids over even when he does not mean it.
@@brigidtheirish yea or 'or cookie, nom nom nom, little human gave cookie slobber slobber' and he is a pretty big dog so with little kids i am a bit more careful lol :p
Story 1: HA hahahahaha, OP how gullible ARE you? Gosh... what do you know, OP's SIL, the woman married to OP's Mommy's other precious son is also being bullied by her. What a stunning coincidence, how could this be?? Lol.
HA! I would have asked the mil to send ME samples of what she will be serving, and then decline the dinner invitation after telling her the food was inadequate.
YTA. If I were the wife, I would go with OP, but tell MIL at the doorstep she had 'sampled' her son and was rejecting him with divorce papers and leave. MIL is very controlling and her sons are both mama's boys for not standing by their wives and not seeing what their mother is doing is wrong.
Living with brother and sil: Normally I'm team not forcing someone to babysit your kids. That however, goes out the window during a medical emergency. For all OP knew SIL was having appendicitis which can be fatal. If OP didn't feel comfortable watching the kids on their own the entire time that's fine, either call grandma and grandpa over or drive over to at least keep them company. The SIL giving OP chores to do sounds like typical roommates sharing household chores, which OP will have to do even if they are living on their own. OP: "Not my kids, not my problem" Brother "YOU are not my kid, so not my problem" OP: - surprise pikachu face -
Not to mention the fact that ambulances, especially if they’re private and not part of the city’s Fire Department, can cost thousands of dollars, even for a six block ride. And a lot of times, even GOOD insurance (like employer insurance) won’t cover it, unless you can “prove” that it was an absolutely life threatening situation. And don’t even bet on that.
*snorts* Your partner being upset because no matter how hard she tries your mother rejects her is “crazy” but your mom holding court and demanding the women compete for her favor isn’t?
Last story - that absolutely infuriated me !!!! Here we have an actual responsible pet owner vs a couple of entitled twats !!! I would have given them something to cry about if they had messed with my dog like that !!! Name and shame them !!! Post the vid of that brat teasing the dog online and lying about it !!!
Story two: YTA. You aren't required to help but if you are receiving help from somebody and refuse to return the favor then you don't get to complain about them stopping.
Is this woman hosting royalty? At holidays, people bring desserts, people take what appeals, leftovers are taken home. That's it. This ritual of curating the dessert table by the mother is so absurd and arrogant.
The Dog story: NTA. Look I'll give an example of the two dogs we've had. Doggo 1 was a GSD mix that ONLY liked family, anything else that breathed in the yard was an intruder, so we kept him in the back yard if we ever had visitors. You could look at photos but you weren't gonna pet him. Doggo 2 (The current dog) is another GSD and she's an attention seeker who'll bark until visitors acknowledge the Queen with appropriate belly rubs but she has a habit of peeing out of excitement so we don't let her interact with guests indoors. Both of those stories and the one in the video have a common thread: You set limits to protect both your guests and your pet, which OP did. So they're NTA. If Brian's mom calls again, I was telling her to take me to court and show off the evidence of who the aggressor was.
Absolutely, animals like people are all different and have different temperaments. I had an abused rescue, she was a gooey sweet fluffy pudding pop with me and was my soul dog. But she would literally try to take off everyone else's face. I suffered no illusion that she was not fit around other people. The owners of animals like that DO know what they are talking about, no matter how much of a critter whisperer you think you are.
I wonder if OP can take the first step, get a lawyer, put out a restraining order, and flood social media, "warning" everyone about Brian' mom and Brian, that they don't respect boundaries, Brian's mom puts him in danger on purpose, possibily to extort money from people? Salt the earth. No one will invite them near because of liability.
@@lyndatuttle I dunno if I was going to throw that punch first but I would use it in retaliation. If it's me in that position, it'd be better to show that I had everyone's better interests in mind rather than just destroy Brian's mom. You do however raise a good point, they trampled boundaries, which is a clear case of trespassing. I'm pretty sure normal thinking people aren't of the mind that someone's entire house is open for a party.
@@a3s1r1986 especially after being told repeatedly that upstairs were off limits. Perhaps the better thing to have done was not allow her son and his friends to go up there to see the dog, but then it was the son's house too.
@@lyndatuttle Yeah, that was my logic too. The other kids know the dog and vice versa, so for them it's safe. The boundary (both the gate and no permission from OP) are enough. with those breached, it's a pretty easy to prove trespassing case
OP in Story is TA. That It's clearly a mind game designed to exclude OP's wife. To be honest, if my MIL demanded a sample of my cooking every year like that, I'd do it one year but thereafter decline and eat holiday dinner at home. If my DH called me unreasonable, I'd pack his bags for him so that his holiday visit could go on forever. Fortunately, my MIL is an angel and my DH truly is Dear.
First story- ugh, I'd just buy something from a bakery and pass it off as my own. And hubby should be sticking up for his wife waaaay more, what an arse
Won't See Mom: I would take the hint that she REALLY doesn't want to be around her mom or stepsibling for some reason. Instead of forcing her, maybe find out why that is. And clearly the mom is not an impartial source of info. If it's bad enough that she doesn't want to visit at all, that is not mere sibling rivalry. To me it suggests that she doesn't even want to be around her mom enough to put up with the irritant. Or that her mom may be one of the irritants.
Story 1 They aren't rebellious teenagers, they're grown adults. Instead of dehumanising they're wives, they should grow tf up and cut the apron strings.
Of COURSE her mom will say nothing is wrong, she doesn’t want to lose child support nor have CPS called on her. Her mom never protested when your daughter wanted to be with you more. Isn’t that concerning you? Protect your daughter.
First Story - OP's wife should make the cookies, package them up, and give them to everyone in the family except MIL. After all, she already has said she doesn't like them.
Please, please, please give us an update to story one when it posts. I have no doubt that his SIL did not "band together" with his wife and any other in-law women will also be doing the same thing. I have to know what happens with this one.
Tell Maddie that she isn’t Presley’s mom, she’s not even a step mom. Ask her how she’d feel if someone did that to a child she had. IF you decide to actually marry this woman I’d come up with a different name for your daughter to call her. Mommydearest comes to mind. Maybe she can call her auntie M. Watch closely OP, I’ve seen many women be all sweet, sparkles & twinkle lights UNTIL they got the ring on their finger & the signed certificate in their clammy hands, then they became worse than the wicked witch of the west.
If a kid does not want to see their parent, they don’t have to. She chose you and I think it’s great respecting your ex-wife but you also need to listen to your daughter.
I wouldnt constantly send cooking samples if each year what I cooked was declined. Wouldnt want to join that kind of Christmas. OP is YTA for calling his wife unreasonable when the person who has been unreasonable is his mom. They should have chrismas with her family. Maybe they have more Christmas spirit than OP's mom. Cant blame Sil for feeling the same way. Maybe they should have a chrismas dinner together!
Why do I have a feeling that in the custody time with the daughter and the mother story that if OP ever went to court he will be called the idiot for not having a grown-up conversation or not thinking about his child whatsoever? Is he too afraid of court cost or the stress of going back to court for custody? Because I’d say if my daughter was in potential danger this will be worth going to court for regardless of cost?
What's this trend of people living on other people's homes and refusing to help?😂 Yes Op, they respect your thoughts and feelings on the matter, that's why they are kicking you out.😂
Refuse to Sit: Normally I would say nobody should be forced to watch kids, they don't make for the most responsible sitters. But I would also say if you're staying with someone, do everything in your power to be a welcome guest. So the least OP could have done was be considerate in their refusal, and not have an entitled attitude. OP has the right to refuse. And they have the right to decide OP is no longer welcome. The lesson here is be careful when you decide to mouth off to someone who is sharing their home with you, as they could always decide to stop, and then where will you be? Crying to mom and dad, apparently.
...wow. That is next level JNMIL! And when the DIL's have enough, the menfolk throw hissy fits. If these woman are clever they'll leave their wedding bands behind, too.
Sample Rejection: YTA. You're allowing your wife to be disrespected, and refused to see how she uses this to do so. He also refuses to see how it's always the DILs that are treated terribly. I bet OP caved to his mother when they talked Kid Watch: INFO I feel like there are more things at play here. OP doesn't talk about what she actually does around the house See your Mom: YTA. Why didn't you ask her why she didn't want to go? You're simply telling her to see her bully and refuse to address the issue Not the Mama: NTA. I feel she's moving too fast Dog Play: NTA. Child and Mom were completely wrong, do they not know dogs don't like their tails pulled?! Pull the kids hair and see how he likes it and say "Oops"
Daughter doesn't want to go to mother's house AT ALL EVER? And for some reason this dad doesn't perceive that there is a problem at the mother's house that his daughter wants to get away from so badly that she chooses to never go to her mother's house again. This dad is absolutely clueless, to him a raging inferno is a light show (rather than a death trap).
I can no longer bring goodies for Christmas, but that's because of so many family allergies. Gluten-free cookies would cost a fortune in ingredients I'd not use again so I'm not upset. Plus, less baking.
Cookie Post: Clearly the mama's boys are AH. I honestly hope that this leads to most if not all the women who didn't make the list deciding not to attend. I hope the humiliation and cookies were worth it.
My Ex is an absolutely amazing Chef! Every time I’d ask what I could bring, I was told “Him” 😂 In 29 years of our being married, I’ve never cooked a Holiday meal! I wouldn’t know how lol I still miss his cooking!
_"Please submit a baking sample so I can judge if it 'makes the cut'."_ _"No. I simply won't be bringing anything."_ Seriously, that's *all* it takes. Jesus...
This isn't about cookies, it's about control. OP and his mother are the AHs here.
Update: And so is OP's brother.
Exactly, she's getting off on the control and apparently dislikes op's wife and brother's wife. I wouldn't be surprised if she's getting off on humiliating the poor girls.
Heard this story and my first thought was "MIL peaked in hs when she was nominated for homecoming queen (didn't win, just nominated)". It's some queen bee ish, but it can be very hard to call out, but damn do we need to start calling it out because it's honestly pathetic when we've got grown women in their 60s acting worse than Regina George. Don't get mad, don't yell, just point out how stupid and immature they look.
I can’t believe op is so incredibly stupid that he doesn’t see it. What an absolute moron.
Wow!! I didn't think OP could get worse, but hearing that update. He and his brother are both mumma's boys and it's baffling that either of them have wives. This has been going on for years. OP's wife finally had enough. Calling the wife a bad influence is ridiculous
Well, they're the special baby boys who can do no wrong in mommy's eyes, so why would they want ish to change? Honestly, I feel like we're gonna get an update where the OP is confused af why his wife left him and his brothers wife left him, and their mom just says they're crazy and better off or whatever.
When you grow up in a patriarchal home where it's encouraged that the women fight each other, it's no wonder that any and all men will end up feeling special and entitled. OP's wife and brother's wife should contact OP's mother and ask for samples of the dinner, explaining that they're checking if it's acceptable for their tastes and worth attending or if they'll be attending their respective family's dinners instead. If MiL is offended... well, that's just the way the cookie-that-didn't-make-the-cut crumbles, isn't it?
Whole family of a holes.
@@remembertobreathe66 OP's wife and SIL should just host their own dinner party. And if the Hubby's don't attend they can always find new husbands for next year.
@@remembertobreathe66 what the hell how is this patriarchal one mom is the boss so matriarchal and toxic as crap
Mmm mini update doesn't feel satisfying enough but at least the women are starting to stand their ground and plan on ditching the Xmas-zilla
Momma boys don't provide the real updates when their wives divorce them, should be pretty clear even from the mini update he doesn't see anything wrong with what MIL is doing.
@@sws212 Yep. He is annoyed now because he guesses he has to talk to his mother about her tyranny.
@@sws212 sadly, heck my brain was just thinking, "what if she had hubby make some cookies and send them instead? would momma still deny?"
but then again that'd probably be just as cruel >>
Yep. The other women are going to have to band together to take down the tyrant.
@@anastasiacaffee4930 IF OP WAS to send in His wife's sample and THEY STILL GOT REJECTED, IT MIGHT OPEN his Eyes about His Mother.
*Story 1:*
LMAO- the SIL is backing out too, and OP is like “Damn, my wife is staging a coup d'état” instead of thinking, “Maybe SIL is backing out because my mother did the same thing to her as she did my wife?”
Exactly, same for op's brother. Just shows how dumb and blind they are to what's the actual cause of the problem. THEIR. MOTHER.
I also like how he's surprised it all happened "so quickly." 😂
What a surprise when YEARS of simmering resentment "suddenly" boil over!
The update on #1 cracked me up. He's wringing his hands, acting like "Oh no! The women are starting to become self-aware!" 🤣I love to bake, but It'd be a cold day in hell before I audition my baking for a family dinner. She really is a holiday tyrant, and her sons are idiots. I hope there will be more updates!
When I saw that, my though was: "Did he even read the comments calling him out?" The answer, of course, seems to be no.
It would be a cold day in hell before I'd even entertaining the idea that my wife would have to audition for bringing food over. I'd ask my mom if she was serious, then tell my wife, then call my mom and tell her "I'm going to my wife's parents for Christmas. We're also baking some deserts and bringing them over the homeless shelter. We're thinking of making a yearly tradition out of it."
Scared to death that the stand up to their mother!
Story 1: If OP's brother is as equally rude, dismissive, and mama's boy-ish as OP then they can comfort each other while they both go through divorces, but look on the bright side you both have plenty of time to request sample dishes from the family for your divorce party menus!
Definitely this! Seriously, wth is up with this sample bs it's a family get together not a contest/art exhibition. Heck even Gordon Ramsey would tell the OPs mother to knock her crap off. The fact that both the OP and his brother are so oblivious and uncaring of their wives feelings just tick me off even more..... hope the wives wise up and get out...hate to think how MiL would behave around the grandkids....
Seems like both siblings have shiny spines of uncooked spaghetti.
I'm no baker, but it sounds like MIL could use some brownies. I have a wonderful recipe by someone named Alice B Toklas...
Wife and sis-in-law might as well send samples of divorce papers with their half already signed....also a sample of the alimony....
@@benlutz1974 That should chill MIL out for the entire party.
Story 1: "I don't know how this got out of control so quickly." It wasn't quick, and it got out of control the second that samples were demanded for testing years ago. Even if the mom were a professional cook, that would only create the expectation that she make all the food by herself (since obviously few people meet her standards). The fact that two wives have now dropped out leaves me hopeful this will lead to a mass exodus where many people choose to spend the holidays with the other side of their family.
The exact same line stood out to me. It was already out of control. People are just finally beginning to reign in the tyrant. Hopefully they can finally get her under control.
Tbh I was fully expecting the husband to tell his wife to make as many cookies as she wanted because they’re bringing them regardless of what mother-in-law says. That would’ve made him NTA. But no instead he shows the world just how naïve and thickheaded he is
Story 1: From the mini update, it sounds like OP still doesn't get what the real problem is. Did he even read the comments?
he probably hoped people would say his wife overreacted and should just go
Story 1, she wasn't unreasonable. I get the feeling that MiL is evil and dislikes op's wife. Your egg donner isn't just about the guests, she's getting off on having the power to exclude someone and is picking on your wife. Your mom is vile for how she's treating your wife and is a tyrant. It's called that MiL is going to get overthrown because of how she's treating their wives and the fact that the husbands don't realize this shows that their blind to their mom's insane behavior.
Same.
Right? Like he had the balls to say his wife is crazy and unreasonable but his MOM isn't?! And that update, obviously OP STILL doesn't get it! Nor does his idiot brother. It's 100% obvious she's a MIL from hell and just hates her daughters-in-law.
@@mandymcnalis7551 it makes me mad when someone like that keeps posting updates when their not reading the comments and realizing that they are dumb and blind to not see that THEY are the ones being unreasonable plus that their parent is also evil for treating their spouse like that.
@@onepieceisking5493 I feel for his wife and sister-in-law. Your partner should have your back. Like how does he NOT see how sh*tty his mom is being to his wife?! How can he hear his wife *crying* bc of his mom's actions and still side with his mom?! He's a straight-up momma's boy and obviously doesn't actually *love* his wife.
If the two daughters-in-law go and celebrate with their own families, it may start a rebellion that other offended family cooks may join. Mother-in-law may be dethroned. We can only hope.
After seeing the patterns I'd just send mother in-law a box of no name cookies with a "please stop wasting my time" note.
Genius
Lol I'd have bought cookies from MIL favourite bakery and box it as mine. When she rejects it I'd decline going, tell all the family why and present exhibit A.
6-8 pack of Oreo's came to my mind - in wrapper of course
I'd send her a box of cookies laced with laxatives... or "creme de testicle" if you get my drift. And on top of it I'd call those kinds of cookies "Jack in the box"es.
@@emanymton7184 😂😂😂😂 you’re straight up evil 😂😂😂
The holiday tyrant… Lol!!
Story #1: I learned a long time ago that if you are not going to make all of the food yourself, then you graciously accept whatever is brought. If I were OP's wife, I might have made something which I was sure to make a "sample" which was sure to make MIL sick, but nothing permanent.
I doubt MIL is even trying the food. Just looking at the name and dumping it in the trash.
I would have had a fancy bakery make my 'sample' and embarass tf outta MIL and call her out for hating based on who she THOUGHT made it.
@@mandymcnalis7551 or get a DIL to switch names on the samples.
@@JoelPerry1 probably right. I would've tested it by putting someone else's name (if possible) on the sample or switching it to one of the faves. If she picks mine with a different name, you KNOW that's her game.
@@khaleesireyna731 I agree that's the best solution. Because if MIL still doesn't like it, I wouldn't say she's in the clear, but she at least has a leg to stand on
Wow! Even with the update OP is still obtuse!
Yep! 😆
My first thought with the custody story was is the brother not just bullying her but abusing her.
If my mil asked me for a cookie sample, I'd buy something in a store and send. I'd be happy to not have to bake or cook something for Christmas
Just 1 cookie.
My heart just broke. My brother and i will go to mothers tomorrow to work it out. COME ON MAN!!!! These brothers dont deserve thier wives.
What a momzilla!!!!!! The wife is right to stay away from the bullying.
I'm a step mom. I'd never say "call me mom" and Infront of her mom
That was a quick update lol... MIL is TA... Stop demanding samples... Those comments were dumb saying Cook Something Else Because Baking Sweets Isn't The Only Thing while excluding her from cooking anything and constantly denying their stuff... They just can't read
Really hope we get another update soon. So for now it's his wife and SIL. Wonder if any of the other ladies even those "chosen" will decide to back out do to this showcase for mom's cooking approval.
I’d have definitely brought whatever I wanted. That MIL is such an AH.
The way I would have laughed in their faces when they requested "samples for testing". I'd bring nothing
I think the husband has become too used to his mother's overbearing ways. He definately isn't supporting his own wife. Perhaps the best thing is for people in the family to divide between the MIL's gathering and an alternative gathering, where people can sign up for what they want to bring, then continue to have the two gatherings for each holiday. Otherwise, they will have to wait for the old bat to die to have any freedom.
I think all the rejected female family members get together bake their cookies and drink margaritas without the rest of the family. Have their own tradition.
Story 1: Oh it must be pure bliss being that damn dense.
Story 1: what is wrong with the mother and her sons? I've never heard of anyone requiring samples of pot luck items so the hostess can judge them. That family should be committed for psychiatric evaluation.
Now I love my momma my wife always said she knew I was a good one based on how I treat my Mom, with that said if my Mom ever even suggested my wife send a sample I would laugh in her face and tell her we will save her the trouble and not bring anything. This Op needs to learn how be a partner to his wife.
Taste Test OP: Dang. I was hoping for an update where the female relatives deliberately switched food items, then publicly revealed the truth after Mommy made her choices. Ah well, at least the DILs got a clue even if her sons are still in Mommy's pocket.
Ooooh, yasssss! Or better yet, if BIL (B**ch-in-Law) had a favorite local bakery with cookie items that they knew she liked, go out and buy some and send a sample of THOSE.
Then when BIL rejects them, go to the Xmas dinner and do the big reveal.
“Why, , I was just so overwhelmed this year I just decided to send some cookie samples from the bakery I KNEW you liked. Are you saying you don’t like them anymore?”
"I don't know how this got out of control so quickly"...It has ALWAYS been out of control but for some reason everyone has just accepted the abuse, control and manipulation of the mother. The wife should have bought the best cookies in town and sent as her sample, and when she was rejected she could have shown how ridiculous her MIL is.
Op mom’s trouble just the tip of the iceberg for Op mom now that people are starting to talk and band together only two now but there will be more and it will end with her at the bottom for her entitlement
The guy in the story one has earned the internet slap with a metaphorical 2x4 ,for his complete blindness when it comes to his mother's cruelty.
Love how the women in the family have decided not to participate in this hunger games type competition! Good on them! Viva the revolution!
Agree it only two now but soon it will be every in laws Op mom have
"I was stunned when I heard she was backing out..." what a clueless jackass. 😂😂😂
Instead of cookie samples, the wives should collectively serve divorce papers with a bow on the day of the Christmas feast. I'm sure that's the gift momster dearest has wanted since both her speshul baby boys got married.
Story 1 op YTA, for standing up for your AH mother
I hope Op wife call every family member that got rejected and start excluding his mom
First story, absolutely insane. Who ask for samples? I would submit something really horrible maybe with lots of hot pepper.
Only to find out she never tried them in the first place
I figured especially if the family is rather big the more people bring dishes the better.
Story 1: Couldn't have been me. OP's wife needs a new husband and a new MIL, since OP can't understand how hurtful his dear mommy is.
Story 2: No wonder why OP ended up getting divorced. I don't understand why people like OP are only concerned about themselves, and can't see why they should help out other people once in a while. Glad she got kicked out.
Last story: If I caught a child pulling my dog’s tail they’d be lucky if all they got was barked at. I’d be tempted to yank on their ears or hair to see how they enjoy that feeling.
I'm gonna be honest, I have done this when my niece and nephew pull their cat's tail. They still haven't learned not to do it. Some kids just never learn, apparently.
I know, right? The *only* times I've pulled an animal's tail is when I'm reaching under my sister's bed for my cat (he's not supposed to be in her room) and that's all I could reach. And it's not so much "pulling" as "holding in place while I try to ease him into a better grabbing position."
The kid is lucky to survived unharmed, Mastiffs could kill a grown person in one bite, and All the dog did was barking and growling.
It sounds scary, but he was a good boy, and just warned the abusing strangers of.
@@brigidtheirishCan relate, though in my case it’s my dog. He’s normally very obedient but every once in a while he turns into, you know, a *dog* and tries to run away (he sees me with a comb or bolts for the open door to greet a delivery person), and my lack of reaction time means I end up with a handful of his tail.
@@JennA-uf6lo Hoo boy, yeah. Trying to wrangle a determined animal into something it doesn't want to do or *away* from something it wants to do is almost harder than trying the same thing with a toddler. At least you have a chance of *negotiating* with the toddler.
The custody story. Why OP didn't spot the huge red flag is just unbelieveable. First question I would have asked is 'why not?' Then listened to her reasoning. But tbh, it is not a situation I have ever been in, so that is just my personal opinion.
sounds like he likes his days without having a kid around
Maddie story NTA. The nerve of that woman calling herself mother in front of the actual mom. You better get this sorted. This might be grounds for custody to be rearranged. Maddie is the one being disrespectful and SEVERELY so.
Time to go the Bitter Almond Cookie sample for the MIL route!
😂
Cyanide?
Ex lax choc chip cookies!
OMG that second story. 😂 Clueless. Glad they kicked that freeloader out.
Except that op wasn't wrong that they have the right to refuse, especially if it wasn't in their agreement of staying there. It's more of an ESH thing.
@@jedimasters1462 Nope. Nope. Nope. This was an emergency. Reddit doesn't live in the real world usually with their 'not my kids, not my problem.' Emergencies happen. OP SHOULD have watched the kids as a human being helping out people who have given them a free place to live! WTF is wrong with you that you wouldn't help someone in need, especially people helping you! Apparently OP doesn't help with simple chores either. Yes, OP had the right to refuse, but more than that, OP should have expected this would be the hill his brother would die on and finally kick his freeloading ass out of there! It was an ACTUAL emergency. Thankfully she was alright but that was NOT the time to argue.
@@dementedqueen4392 I never said that op shouldn't watch the kids, only that she had the right to refuse. I've had to watch my nieces and nephews for emergencies and I've even called into work once to watch the youngest for his mom to go to work. There is a difference between helping because it's right and helping because you are being forced. The reason I'm saying ESH is because op could have helped while the brother should have respected her saying no (especially as it was clear that op shouldn't be left alone with the kids anyway). Also, someone should have the right to say no without the fear that they would be kicked out if they do. Neither are fully innocent or guilty.
@@jedimasters1462 See? That restores my faith in humanity that you help your sibling out in a tight jamb. We do these things not because we have an agreement or have to be forced, but we WANT to do them as good human beings that want to help those around us (while not being a doormat). However, I don't think this was a situation someone was being forced into. Emergencies come up and a person shouldn't have to be forced to do something but WANT to do something because it's for the good of everyone. Technically you are right - the brother should not have kicked her out for refusing to watch the kids, and yes, if the sister really doesn't want to watch the kids and is that much of an AH about watching kids, then yes, it's probably a good idea they don't watch your kids for your own kids' sake, HOWEVER I stand by the fact that the sister SHOULD have done that to help the people who have so graciously been helping her (she could have taken them to her parents). And in the end, I am very glad they did kick her butt out. Why? Because you can not, under any circumstances, have someone who is so obviously a huge user around your family. It's not good for the kids, it's not good for the wife (the wife has to ask the OP to do things around the house - these are things OP should be doing without having been asked because they are staying somewhere for free and once again, it's the right thing to do), and it's not good for the harmony in the house. I really don't think this is an ESH situation. But I hope you can see where I am coming from. Reddit always says you don't have to do something you don't want to do but they never talk about when you SHOULD do them.
Mastiffs are pretty chill dogs. My neighbor’s mastiff used to come visit us every day for pets. But the first time he came bounding right through my open door to the living room where we were sitting was a bit of a start! Fortunately he was a sweetheart. I think we were as upset as his owner when someone stole him.
There are a few breeds of mastiffs that are...less than chill. They'll bond to one human and that's it; everyone else is tolerated at best. But usually, yeah; they're pretty relaxed, unless specifically trained otherwise (guarding, ect). I'm so sorry about your sweet squishy boi~
The poor boy! Too friendly for his own good.
@@alexisgrunden1556 yeah my mastiff is the same. She is bonded to my mom mostly and everyone else in the house is just people who give her treats and feed her 😂😂😂. Outside guest are viewed with suspicion and she is extremely protective. We do not have guest over as when she was adopted from the shelter, two weeks later was the lockdown for COVID and she didn’t get the proper socialization that she needed.
i met a large mastiff that was just interested in the dog treats in my coat pocket, like he really stood in front of me kind of expecting treats. i did not give him one since he was with a dog walker pack.
Last story: thankfully OP has CCTV, so often dogs got punished for people's stupidity.
Ambulances easily cost $800, sometimes 1000s and OP wants that unnecessary expense. They asked you to watch the kids to go to the hospital. You made your decision and they made theirs. OP keeps saying they should respect her decision, they can respect her decision and STILL kick hurt out for being an AH. OP is using these words but doesn't know what they mean.
Lol OP realized that reddit isn't real life and living rent free as an adult is a privilege with certain obligations if you don't want to get evicted. "Not my kids, not my problems" is such a ridiculous phrase to tell family who you are staying with and just had an emergency.
Betcha there art no kids or responsibilities living in his car...
Last story, I'd tell the mom, that "If she tries to sue me, I have her dead to rights on trespassing and assault on my dog. Let's play chicken and see who flinches first huh? I have witnesses that will tell i told you no, yet you did it anyways and i have the proof of the assault". might even tell her all my security cameras are miced just so she has something to worry about
The fact that all the dog did was bark and growl actually proves that the dog is trained. Mastiffs are huge and can really do damage if you are bitten by them. Playing, pulling or really doing anything to a dog’s tail is a sure fire bet you are going to be on the receiving end of something unpleasant. The mom and kid were told “no” and were told why and yet trespassed into the house and abused the dog. The lady is lucky OP didn’t contact the police and press charges. People that think they have a right to pet someone’s dog really irritate me.
@@pickle_pup8187 Hell, I've had dogs snap at me just for *standing* near their tails. Gotten some bad bites, too, mostly from the small, yappy dogs.
I suspect the cookies were in fact delicious but everybody is either so afraid or so up Mother-in-laws butt they won’t taste them.
Op mom is the only one that test them and banned everyone that she didn’t like
@@joimumu yes but when she is permitted to bring cookies nobody touches them.
Lol...YTA... if ANYONE insisted I get pre approval on the dish / dessert for a family meal, I'd have opted out of the "competition" from the 1st time. MIL is an AH. Husband is an AH.
Dog Story: You *never* pull a dog's tail. The biggest proof that OP's dog is well trained is that the kid *wasn't* bit or scratched. What the *hell* was that mother thinking? Was she *trying* to start a lawsuit?
She might have and it people like her why we have cameras everywhere
Our dog is pretty well trained but i never claim 100% that he won't bite and I do still keep him away from kids in certain situations. though that is more because he is an elephant in a porcelain shop when he is excited then i fear he will bite. he will bowl kids over even when he does not mean it.
@@velvety2006 LOL! Yeah, sometimes I think friendly dogs are almost more dangerous than aggressive ones. *PLAY!* Squish.
@@brigidtheirish yea or 'or cookie, nom nom nom, little human gave cookie slobber slobber' and he is a pretty big dog so with little kids i am a bit more careful lol :p
@@velvety2006 lol Yeah. I've felt like I was about to drown in slobber a couple times.
Story 1: HA hahahahaha, OP how gullible ARE you? Gosh... what do you know, OP's SIL, the woman married to OP's Mommy's other precious son is also being bullied by her. What a stunning coincidence, how could this be?? Lol.
XO left out the part that OP's younger sisters also didn't make the cut, so it's just not the DL's the crazy mother will say no too.
@@bucknuts8198 That's fantastic, then they'll have some blood-related leverage when they start abandoning her dinner parties en masse.
Tell the mom that you’ll be happy to show family, friends & all authorities the footage.
HA! I would have asked the mil to send ME samples of what she will be serving, and then decline the dinner invitation after telling her the food was inadequate.
My step daughter calls me OT. It's short for other mama. That's what her mom came up with. I am OG, got other grandma.
YTA. If I were the wife, I would go with OP, but tell MIL at the doorstep she had 'sampled' her son and was rejecting him with divorce papers and leave. MIL is very controlling and her sons are both mama's boys for not standing by their wives and not seeing what their mother is doing is wrong.
Men who cling to their mothers in spite of their wives end up divorced.
Living with brother and sil: Normally I'm team not forcing someone to babysit your kids. That however, goes out the window during a medical emergency. For all OP knew SIL was having appendicitis which can be fatal. If OP didn't feel comfortable watching the kids on their own the entire time that's fine, either call grandma and grandpa over or drive over to at least keep them company.
The SIL giving OP chores to do sounds like typical roommates sharing household chores, which OP will have to do even if they are living on their own.
OP: "Not my kids, not my problem" Brother "YOU are not my kid, so not my problem" OP: - surprise pikachu face -
Not to mention the fact that ambulances, especially if they’re private and not part of the city’s Fire Department, can cost thousands of dollars, even for a six block ride. And a lot of times, even GOOD insurance (like employer insurance) won’t cover it, unless you can “prove” that it was an absolutely life threatening situation. And don’t even bet on that.
I expected the wife to send in a "Sample" that was bought from a 5-star bakery to prove mother was excluding her.
*snorts* Your partner being upset because no matter how hard she tries your mother rejects her is “crazy” but your mom holding court and demanding the women compete for her favor isn’t?
Oooooof the OP in the first story is about to be single along with his brother XD
Last story - that absolutely infuriated me !!!!
Here we have an actual responsible pet owner vs a couple of entitled twats !!! I would have given them something to cry about if they had messed with my dog like that !!!
Name and shame them !!! Post the vid of that brat teasing the dog online and lying about it !!!
Story two: YTA. You aren't required to help but if you are receiving help from somebody and refuse to return the favor then you don't get to complain about them stopping.
The MIL and those damn mammas boys need some percussive maintenance to the noggin via framing hammer.
Is this woman hosting royalty? At holidays, people bring desserts, people take what appeals, leftovers are taken home. That's it. This ritual of curating the dessert table by the mother is so absurd and arrogant.
The Dog story: NTA. Look I'll give an example of the two dogs we've had.
Doggo 1 was a GSD mix that ONLY liked family, anything else that breathed in the yard was an intruder, so we kept him in the back yard if we ever had visitors. You could look at photos but you weren't gonna pet him.
Doggo 2 (The current dog) is another GSD and she's an attention seeker who'll bark until visitors acknowledge the Queen with appropriate belly rubs but she has a habit of peeing out of excitement so we don't let her interact with guests indoors.
Both of those stories and the one in the video have a common thread: You set limits to protect both your guests and your pet, which OP did. So they're NTA. If Brian's mom calls again, I was telling her to take me to court and show off the evidence of who the aggressor was.
Absolutely, animals like people are all different and have different temperaments. I had an abused rescue, she was a gooey sweet fluffy pudding pop with me and was my soul dog. But she would literally try to take off everyone else's face. I suffered no illusion that she was not fit around other people. The owners of animals like that DO know what they are talking about, no matter how much of a critter whisperer you think you are.
I wonder if OP can take the first step, get a lawyer, put out a restraining order, and flood social media, "warning" everyone about Brian' mom and Brian, that they don't respect boundaries, Brian's mom puts him in danger on purpose, possibily to extort money from people? Salt the earth. No one will invite them near because of liability.
@@lyndatuttle I dunno if I was going to throw that punch first but I would use it in retaliation. If it's me in that position, it'd be better to show that I had everyone's better interests in mind rather than just destroy Brian's mom. You do however raise a good point, they trampled boundaries, which is a clear case of trespassing. I'm pretty sure normal thinking people aren't of the mind that someone's entire house is open for a party.
@@a3s1r1986 especially after being told repeatedly that upstairs were off limits. Perhaps the better thing to have done was not allow her son and his friends to go up there to see the dog, but then it was the son's house too.
@@lyndatuttle Yeah, that was my logic too. The other kids know the dog and vice versa, so for them it's safe. The boundary (both the gate and no permission from OP) are enough. with those breached, it's a pretty easy to prove trespassing case
Op1 stand up to your Mom wth!
OP in Story is TA. That It's clearly a mind game designed to exclude OP's wife. To be honest, if my MIL demanded a sample of my cooking every year like that, I'd do it one year but thereafter decline and eat holiday dinner at home. If my DH called me unreasonable, I'd pack his bags for him so that his holiday visit could go on forever. Fortunately, my MIL is an angel and my DH truly is Dear.
First story- ugh, I'd just buy something from a bakery and pass it off as my own. And hubby should be sticking up for his wife waaaay more, what an arse
Won't See Mom: I would take the hint that she REALLY doesn't want to be around her mom or stepsibling for some reason. Instead of forcing her, maybe find out why that is. And clearly the mom is not an impartial source of info. If it's bad enough that she doesn't want to visit at all, that is not mere sibling rivalry.
To me it suggests that she doesn't even want to be around her mom enough to put up with the irritant. Or that her mom may be one of the irritants.
Story 1 They aren't rebellious teenagers, they're grown adults. Instead of dehumanising they're wives, they should grow tf up and cut the apron strings.
I'm... Speechless.
How the F. did that mother of the last story think that it's appropriate to let her kid pull an animal's tail ?! 💀💀💀
Pushed to the limit and demoralized over cookies 🍪 🤣🤣🤣
Momma boy telling wife she's not acting unreasonable ? Drop him off at mommies.
yah,have a discussion with Mamma..you big mamma boys...
Hope there’s another update to story 1 after the Holidays
I hope they (Op wife and SIL’s) do a not Homers club but with Op mother
Of COURSE her mom will say nothing is wrong, she doesn’t want to lose child support nor have CPS called on her. Her mom never protested when your daughter wanted to be with you more. Isn’t that concerning you?
Protect your daughter.
If op doesn't send the daughter, the mom could go after him and get him in contempt of court. She could use it to get more custody.
First Story - OP's wife should make the cookies, package them up, and give them to everyone in the family except MIL. After all, she already has said she doesn't like them.
They is doing your part and then there’s doing everything. Big difference.
Please, please, please give us an update to story one when it posts. I have no doubt that his SIL did not "band together" with his wife and any other in-law women will also be doing the same thing. I have to know what happens with this one.
That would be very easy to do when they all share the mistreatment by Op mother and I doubt it only during Holidays
Tell Maddie that she isn’t Presley’s mom, she’s not even a step mom. Ask her how she’d feel if someone did that to a child she had.
IF you decide to actually marry this woman I’d come up with a different name for your daughter to call her. Mommydearest comes to mind. Maybe she can call her auntie M.
Watch closely OP, I’ve seen many women be all sweet, sparkles & twinkle lights UNTIL they got the ring on their finger & the signed certificate in their clammy hands, then they became worse than the wicked witch of the west.
After hearing that mini update, I'm guessing things aren't going to go well for OP and their mother.
If a kid does not want to see their parent, they don’t have to. She chose you and I think it’s great respecting your ex-wife but you also need to listen to your daughter.
I wouldnt constantly send cooking samples if each year what I cooked was declined. Wouldnt want to join that kind of Christmas. OP is YTA for calling his wife unreasonable when the person who has been unreasonable is his mom. They should have chrismas with her family. Maybe they have more Christmas spirit than OP's mom. Cant blame Sil for feeling the same way.
Maybe they should have a chrismas dinner together!
Or let the hubby's go to see mommy. Then the wives go to their own family Christmas.
Waaaah! waaaahhh!
Loved the acting here :D
If I have visitors disobeying rules at my house, banned.
I can sort of understand OP1 being oblivious cause it's sort of behind his back so he doesn't notice, but OP2 come on dawg, are you serious?
Story 1. I can't wair for the update after Thanksgiving.
I don't understand why people go along with this kind of bs. If the mother wants to be a masterchef judge she can cook for herself😂
Story 1: I say make and bring them and let the _guests_ decide
Mother in law is eating the samples and sharing with others I would bet.. maybe even passing the deserts off as hers as gifts.
Why do I have a feeling that in the custody time with the daughter and the mother story that if OP ever went to court he will be called the idiot for not having a grown-up conversation or not thinking about his child whatsoever? Is he too afraid of court cost or the stress of going back to court for custody? Because I’d say if my daughter was in potential danger this will be worth going to court for regardless of cost?
Ex-wife should just divorce op and sue for alimony...for the cost of all those samples....op then just go back to his mommy....
Story 1: What kind of weird, Machiavellian bullshit is MIL playing!?
What's this trend of people living on other people's homes and refusing to help?😂
Yes Op, they respect your thoughts and feelings on the matter, that's why they are kicking you out.😂
Refuse to Sit: Normally I would say nobody should be forced to watch kids, they don't make for the most responsible sitters.
But I would also say if you're staying with someone, do everything in your power to be a welcome guest.
So the least OP could have done was be considerate in their refusal, and not have an entitled attitude.
OP has the right to refuse. And they have the right to decide OP is no longer welcome.
The lesson here is be careful when you decide to mouth off to someone who is sharing their home with you, as they could always decide to stop, and then where will you be? Crying to mom and dad, apparently.
There can’t be this many oblivious people
...wow. That is next level JNMIL! And when the DIL's have enough, the menfolk throw hissy fits. If these woman are clever they'll leave their wedding bands behind, too.
If I was a guest at his mothers dinner I would be irritated with the mother thinking she has any idea what I would want to eat!
Sample Rejection: YTA. You're allowing your wife to be disrespected, and refused to see how she uses this to do so. He also refuses to see how it's always the DILs that are treated terribly. I bet OP caved to his mother when they talked
Kid Watch: INFO I feel like there are more things at play here. OP doesn't talk about what she actually does around the house
See your Mom: YTA. Why didn't you ask her why she didn't want to go? You're simply telling her to see her bully and refuse to address the issue
Not the Mama: NTA. I feel she's moving too fast
Dog Play: NTA. Child and Mom were completely wrong, do they not know dogs don't like their tails pulled?! Pull the kids hair and see how he likes it and say "Oops"
Wow!!! What a control freak!!
Daughter doesn't want to go to mother's house AT ALL EVER?
And for some reason this dad doesn't perceive that there is a problem at the mother's house that his daughter wants to get away from so badly that she chooses to never go to her mother's house again.
This dad is absolutely clueless, to him a raging inferno is a light show (rather than a death trap).
Last sory, don't ever invite Karen and her golden child to your house again!
I can no longer bring goodies for Christmas, but that's because of so many family allergies. Gluten-free cookies would cost a fortune in ingredients I'd not use again so I'm not upset. Plus, less baking.
Cookie Post: Clearly the mama's boys are AH. I honestly hope that this leads to most if not all the women who didn't make the list deciding not to attend. I hope the humiliation and cookies were worth it.
My Ex is an absolutely amazing Chef! Every time I’d ask what I could bring, I was told “Him” 😂 In 29 years of our being married, I’ve never cooked a Holiday meal! I wouldn’t know how lol I still miss his cooking!
_"Please submit a baking sample so I can judge if it 'makes the cut'."_
_"No. I simply won't be bringing anything."_
Seriously, that's *all* it takes. Jesus...
With how crazy MIL are, I doubt that will be acceptable.
@@Kimmie_78 Who cares? Let The MIL take a minute and get over it.
Last story: Brian's mom is setting up for a lawsuit against OP!