The Easiest Ways Federal Employees Can Retire Early

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  • @edhcb9359
    @edhcb9359 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    FERS is a pretty weak pension as far as public sector pensions go.

    • @concken1
      @concken1 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      compared to what? What is best?

    • @edhcb9359
      @edhcb9359 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@concken1 FERS pays you 1% to 1.1% back per year worked vs most state and local pension systems that pay you 2% to 3% back per year worked. So for example, if you worked 30 years for the feds and got 1.1% back per year, a person who made $100k per year peak earnings would get $33k per year as their pension. A pensioner who also spent 30 years working and earned $100k peak at a state that pays 2.5%(for example) would get $75k per year in pension.

    • @jeffreyblanton9877
      @jeffreyblanton9877 8 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      The FERS retirement system was set up to work as a 3 tiered system. You also have to ask how much money the state pulled out of the employees paycheck to fund their pension. I pay less than 1% for my FERS pension and I promise you a state pension is pulling more than 1%. If you take the difference and put it in the TSP C fund for 30 plus years earning 9% you’ll see that the FERS pension is a pretty great retirement system. I’ve actually run the numbers and the FERS system beats the old Civil Service retirement as long as you are disciplined enough to put the difference in the TSP and thus along with the match adds up to a pretty fat stack of cash that you can pass on after death. I’m not saying a State retirement is no good but you have to look at how much it’s cost you to fund the pension. Also the TSP has an annuity that you can purchase at retirement if you choose but I wouldn’t recommend it personally but it’s the same as a “pension” , the only difference is you create your own.

    • @edhcb9359
      @edhcb9359 8 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@jeffreyblanton9877 Even at 9% it’s nowhere near. And 9% is not a guarantee either.

  • @IOSALive
    @IOSALive 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    Haws Federal Advisors, I'm hooked on your videos, keep them rolling

  • @FIRE_DrNinjaTurtle
    @FIRE_DrNinjaTurtle 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    I retired early and kept my medical benefits and kept my full pension. Delayed retirement at 58.5 years, but you have only 18 months to keep healthcare. I paid my part and the feds part to the National Science Foundation, then at 60 my pension kicked in and my health insurance went back down.

    • @dsmith1934
      @dsmith1934 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      That’s not retiring early. Early retirement should be before MRA

    • @jeffreyblanton9877
      @jeffreyblanton9877 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@dsmith1934it sounds like his MRA was 60 because he probably had less than 30 years but more than 20. Just guessing but I know this retirement system pretty good. In the case he would have retired early. I may try this since I will have 39 years at 57. Leave at 55.5 and pay my on insurance. The only down side is that I wouldn’t get my social security supplement but at least it’s an option.

    • @AD-ui2pz
      @AD-ui2pz 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@jeffreyblanton9877you should stay till 57 for the FERS supplement unless you really have to go -i have 33 years now and will go after i turn 57 in 3 years to get the FERS supplement and i’ll work part time maybe under the annual limit so I can prolong taking anything from my tsp account

    • @David-cv3bp
      @David-cv3bp 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@jeffreyblanton9877 it’s Called “cobra” if you are paying for the insurance and not receiving a pension. It plain terms he resigned and when eligible he applied for the pension. Very few could do that without having additional funds coming in.

  • @gregthomas2448
    @gregthomas2448 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I hit the lotto VERA/VSIP age 55 in 2022. Worked 21 to 55 34 years service. I reside in a no state income tax state. The VSIP was 17.5K after taxes and the special social security benefit (bridge) started when I turned 56.5 years of age. My advice make sure you load up in thrift, have no debt and having another revenue stream would be ideal. The bridge is subject to the earnings test. Not sure why because OPM funds that anyway not social security. Seems a bit unfair. Other than that happy tanned and relaxed 👍🏆 🏝️

  • @RichFitzwel
    @RichFitzwel 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Great content. Can you do one on FERS disability retirement

    • @dsmith1934
      @dsmith1934 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Probably useful but this to is not an early retirement since to collect your benefits you have to wait until you’re 62. Or go back to work

    • @PlanYourFederalBenefits
      @PlanYourFederalBenefits  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes, here it is:
      th-cam.com/video/npSaR1wZwJ8/w-d-xo.html&pp=ygUwaGF3cyBmZWRlcmFsIGJlbmVmaXRzIEZFUlMgZGlzYWJpbGl0eSByZXRpcmVtZW50

  • @reidloscidem3562
    @reidloscidem3562 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I'm always hoping for a VERA. 🙏

    • @noblewv70
      @noblewv70 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Me too!!!

  • @rolandcuadra
    @rolandcuadra 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thanks for the video. I'm going deferred all the way! My American dream is to get out.

  • @zenawarrior7442
    @zenawarrior7442 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    My mom got an early out from the VA, loved it. Seems they don't offer these as much tho? Thanks Dallen again 😊

  • @lashadow8
    @lashadow8 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    SOLID breakdown and explanation, thank you!

  • @scottschuler7940
    @scottschuler7940 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Could you cover discontinued service retirement in a future video? We are about to go through a RIF.

    • @PlanYourFederalBenefits
      @PlanYourFederalBenefits  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Certainly, we can also meet with you one on one if you would like. Feel free to book a meeting here:
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  • @Fro_Low
    @Fro_Low 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Q: I currently have around $500k in the Traditional TSP, but am seeing the advantages of having a Roth pot to help offset some taxes in the retirement years. I know I can do Roth conversations after retirement if I move to an IRA, but with 6-9 years potentially left, should I start putting my into the Roth TSP to build that pot of money up or just stay with the Traditional and pay the Piper down the road?

    • @SpookyEng1
      @SpookyEng1 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I am until the end of 25 because tax rates will most likely revert to 2017 schedule (higher) after 2025. You can always put 25-50% in Roth to get the benefits of both and not take the huge tax hit now. Most convert after retirement and before SSA when I come is lower.

    • @David-cv3bp
      @David-cv3bp 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Leave it where it is and just allocate new money to the Roth

  • @rola4721
    @rola4721 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    What happens if you have 20 yrs combine federal service. And decide to leave service early, but not 62?

    • @jimmywalters3071
      @jimmywalters3071 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      You can retire normally with at least 20 years of federal service at age 60. It 's best to wait till you are 62 as you got 10% more in retirement $$ so 1.1% instead of 1% of your high 3 year salary.

    • @delbrett2257
      @delbrett2257 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You still get a pension at age 60, so if you are younger the tsp savings each month might work till the pension starts at age 60 but not automatically.

    • @delbrett2257
      @delbrett2257 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Also no health insurance benefit.

    • @scottgold1054
      @scottgold1054 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yep 60 is earliest.

    • @David-cv3bp
      @David-cv3bp 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@jimmywalters3071 , its not really 10% as one thinks it. It is one tenth more for each year, which at 20 yr for age 62 is 22% of pay and not the 20% . So it is 10% more of your 20% only.

  • @MartinIrizarry
    @MartinIrizarry 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    In 2027, I will reach my MRA at 57, with but I will have 27yrs of service. Will my pension be reduced if I retired at 57 with 27 yrs of service?

    • @PlanYourFederalBenefits
      @PlanYourFederalBenefits  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Great question. You will not be eligible for a full retirement at age 57 with 27 years of service. But, you could either do an MRA + 10 retirement and get your pension immediately, but it would be reduced by 25%. You could also do a postponed retirement and wait to get your pension until the age of 62 to avoid pension penalty.

    • @MartinIrizarry
      @MartinIrizarry 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you for responding to my question. How about if i retire at MRA of 57yo and postpone the pension for three years. Then, I will have MRA+27 years of service and be 60y/o. Will the pension still be reduced?

    • @David-cv3bp
      @David-cv3bp 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@MartinIrizarry it’s not a retirement if you do not collect immediately and you may lose health benefits

  • @davidrex9592
    @davidrex9592 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you for the constant advice.

  • @bradgro2921
    @bradgro2921 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Currently I'm 45 yo with 20 years in. I'm assuming I'd be able to do deferred retirement as well.

  • @zx2kain
    @zx2kain 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What about a special provisions, like a LEO or fire fighter, that can't see anymore or has a health issue?

  • @drmitofit2673
    @drmitofit2673 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    My similar age colleague hired around the same time, opted to go half-time at the mid peak of his career at 10 years service for "family/work balance". I worked full-time continuously and retired at 30 years service at age 58, which everyone said was "early" for an MD. My pension plus FERS supplement and 100% C fund TSP are ridiculously generous. It will take him 50 years working to reach 30 years of service (i.e. forever), although he could retire at 62. Plus, I imagine that my TSP now is bigger than his will ever be. Who do you think has the better family/work balance?

  • @peteryi980
    @peteryi980 หลายเดือนก่อน

    With mra+30 yrs does 10% penalty incur for TSP traditional $ direct rollover to my individual ira with my brokerage?

  • @DanKulibert
    @DanKulibert 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I always think of Deferred as the Death of additional benefits

    • @joghog
      @joghog 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Good way to remember it since it's easy to get Deferred confused with the Postponed Retirement.

  • @ray.d.oeaux1230
    @ray.d.oeaux1230 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Your videos are extremely informative. Can you provide the link for the MRA +10/Postponed?

    • @PlanYourFederalBenefits
      @PlanYourFederalBenefits  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you very much. Here it is:
      th-cam.com/video/V01_2ITIdA4/w-d-xo.html&pp=ygUnaGF3cyBmZWRlcmFsIGJlbmVmaXRzIE1SQSArMTAvUG9zdHBvbmVk

    • @ray.d.oeaux1230
      @ray.d.oeaux1230 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@PlanYourFederalBenefits Thank you.

  • @KillerBandaid
    @KillerBandaid 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    What about retired military that transitioned to GS?

    • @reidloscidem3562
      @reidloscidem3562 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You could buy your years back, but I rarely see that since it is not beneficial for the employee.

    • @glasshalffull2930
      @glasshalffull2930 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I know a retired FBI/military guy and he said it is very common for those with former military service to buy their time back.

    • @SpookyEng1
      @SpookyEng1 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      If you are getting a mil retirement the math on the buyback usually doesn’t make sense unless there is a huge disparity between the two grades (like a retired E-6 and then a GS-14 in Civil Service)

    • @David-cv3bp
      @David-cv3bp 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@glasshalffull2930 , some of those agents retired from Reserve military. The FBI has a maximum entry age and a retired military person normally would not meet the age requirement. Now days they do subtract some military years off your age, but still it’s hard to get hired that way.

  • @joseperez2372
    @joseperez2372 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great videos!
    Scenario: 48 yrs old. Looking at CBPO. Buying back 2.5 yrs of Active Duty military. Can I just work 7.5 yrs and be considered MRA+10?

    • @PlanYourFederalBenefits
      @PlanYourFederalBenefits  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Great question. Yes, as long as you reach your MRA which is probably age 57.

  • @conniegarcia5005
    @conniegarcia5005 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hi Mr. Haws! Love your videos on Federal Government Retirement! I would like a one on one. I have too many questions to post. :) Hope to hear from you! - Connie

    • @PlanYourFederalBenefits
      @PlanYourFederalBenefits  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Hey Connie,
      Great to hear from you. Feel free to schedule a one-on-one meeting with us through this link: app.hawsfederaladvisors.com/whatservicemakessense

  • @jennifermayo8293
    @jennifermayo8293 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wonderful explanation!

  • @mattbrown7961
    @mattbrown7961 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Question I’d like to see for SEC employees. Are there advantages in going all the way to mandatory vs retirement at eligible age? I’m a LEO .

    • @glasshalffull2930
      @glasshalffull2930 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I’m retired LEO from a different agency. The vast majority either retire at 50 and get a second career or the go to the 57 mandatory. Advantage to going to mandatory is that you get an extra 1% towards your pension for each year you continue to work. Another advantage is the TSP catchup provision after 50. LEOs also get the Supplemental Social Security, but if you get another job then if you get pay above (I think) $24K then it is reduced by 50% for every dollar over.

    • @mattbrown7961
      @mattbrown7961 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@glasshalffull2930 actually there is no reduction in the supplemental until you meet your MRA. Hence you are leaving money on the table. So I’ve been told.

    • @glasshalffull2930
      @glasshalffull2930 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@mattbrown7961 That’s not what I heard, but I never exceeded the limit after I retired, so I cannot be sure. Have you checked out FERSGUIDE? It is produced by a retired FBI agent who was a CPA and has made it his life’s mission to completely understand the federal employment system. The guide is about $15.

  • @jnm-eh6qt
    @jnm-eh6qt 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    In other words, don't retire early unless you're offered a VERA, which will likely never happen.

    • @dsmith1934
      @dsmith1934 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Exactly, while I like this guys content it seems to be repetitive. If you need FEHB, then there is no way to retire earlier than MRA other than VERA, which they are not going to do for a long time. We can’t get enough new hires as is.

    • @MH-yh8rz
      @MH-yh8rz 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      My agency offers VERA all the time, once or twice per year. They want to get rid of the high earners.

    • @itguru2037
      @itguru2037 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@MH-yh8rzwhat agency?

    • @MH-yh8rz
      @MH-yh8rz 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Federal court. The one I work at is always trying to get rid of the high earners due to the budget. I get the sense that management pressures some employees to take VERA. It always seems like there’s a mass exodus at least once per year around here.

    • @jnm-eh6qt
      @jnm-eh6qt 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@MH-yh8rz Amazing. I have 25 years of service and I have never seen a VERA offered.

  • @soldierryemusic
    @soldierryemusic 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ok let’s see if I understood. I’m planning on leaving the government at 51 with 30 years. I can do either postponed or deferred. Was hoping to get pension at 57 but that means I would get penalized until 60?

    • @PlanYourFederalBenefits
      @PlanYourFederalBenefits  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Great questions. You cannot retire with a postponed retirement at age 51. Only a deferred. You would have to wait until your MRA (probably age 57) to get a full retirement. In your situation, you wouldn't qualify for a postponed retirement (MRA + 10) retirement because you would have 36 years of service at your MRA.

    • @soldierryemusic
      @soldierryemusic 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@PlanYourFederalBenefits oh got it! Ok thank you so much!
      So then I could get a fers supplement at 57 which can cover my penalties.

    • @David-cv3bp
      @David-cv3bp 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@soldierryemusic at 57 with 30 years there is no penalty, that is a full retirement with supplement

  • @nealp1487
    @nealp1487 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Are "years" offered under VERA or VSIP? I heard people say in the past the the agency was offering "4 years" and "$50,000. Would this help me if I am 53 with 18 years of service?

    • @PlanYourFederalBenefits
      @PlanYourFederalBenefits  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Great question. Here is a great article about VERA and VSIP: hawsfederaladvisors.com/fers-early-out-retirement-vera-and-vsip-the-ultimate-guide/

    • @nealp1487
      @nealp1487 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@PlanYourFederalBenefits I did not see an answer to my question there

  • @jakej5855
    @jakej5855 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If you hit your mra (57) with 22 years and decide to draw pension is it the 5% per year reduction...until age 60. So 15%...since you have 20 plus years or is it still 5% per year to age 62...

  • @concken1
    @concken1 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How does the Military Deposit play into this?

    • @PlanYourFederalBenefits
      @PlanYourFederalBenefits  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Great question. Here is a great video about that:
      th-cam.com/video/oNwgLMfPNfk/w-d-xo.html&pp=ygUvaGF3cyBmZWRlcmFsIGFkdmlzb3JzIGJ1eWluZyBiYWNrIG1pbGl0YXJ5IHRpZW0%3D

  • @sandragibson2221
    @sandragibson2221 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Im 63 with 35 years of Federal service I plan to work 3 more years. Will i be abe to retire with my Federal BCBS health insurance?

    • @SpookyEng1
      @SpookyEng1 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yes

  • @cpaul57
    @cpaul57 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Question???? I did 4 years active duty and then transfered to the air guard. If I bought back my active duty time and air guard tempAGR tours, will i lose out on my military retirement?

    • @PlanYourFederalBenefits
      @PlanYourFederalBenefits  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Great question. You will be able to buy back those 4 years. But, once you retire from the FERS, you cannot receive your military retirement.

    • @cpaul57
      @cpaul57 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@PlanYourFederalBenefits I didn't retire from the military side. So if I bought back the 4 year active duty time, I will lose out on the 4 years towards military pension?

    • @David-cv3bp
      @David-cv3bp 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@PlanYourFederalBenefits , I disagree with your remark. Active duty retirement is offset, not Reserve or National guard retirement, which isn’t paid until a person is atleast 60 on most cases. I know so many who get 5 sources of income. FERS, SSA, TSP, MILITARY RESERVE AND DISABLED VETERAN (va)

  • @BMWi-nc7nv
    @BMWi-nc7nv 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can you included same info but with LEO

    • @PlanYourFederalBenefits
      @PlanYourFederalBenefits  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes, here it is:
      th-cam.com/video/r1l_3_ySli8/w-d-xo.html&pp=ygUzaGF3cyBmZWRlcmFsIGJlbmVmaXRzIHNwZWNpYWwgcHJvdmlzaW9ucyByZXRpcmVtZW50

  • @tala9499
    @tala9499 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    For the deferred option, how do I calculate my retirement I would receive when I hit 60. Let’s say I have 28 years of service

    • @delbrett2257
      @delbrett2257 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      you would get about 28% of your base pay but no health care benefit.

    • @PlanYourFederalBenefits
      @PlanYourFederalBenefits  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Great question. Here is a great video to look at for that:
      th-cam.com/video/NfiYISKKEIU/w-d-xo.html&pp=ygUpaGF3cyBmZWRlcmFsIGJlbmVmaXRzIGRlZmVycmVkIHJldGlyZW1lbnQ%3D

  • @ronisley9716
    @ronisley9716 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How is it that I can retire with a pension, although reduced, at 58 years and 20 years pluses 2 months?

    • @delbrett2257
      @delbrett2257 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      If you waited till age 60 and used thrift savings for income till 60, there is no deduction but a little less each month for not working the last few months.

    • @PlanYourFederalBenefits
      @PlanYourFederalBenefits  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You cannot retire with a full retirement with 20 years of service at age 58. You can at 60 though.

    • @ronisley9716
      @ronisley9716 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@PlanYourFederalBenefits yes I have figured that out. I will retire at 58 with 20 years service under the MRA + 10. I will get a reduced benefit. I can live with that.

  • @ykcirsedroc30
    @ykcirsedroc30 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’m 58 years old with 28 yrs creditable service, and want to use MRA +10 postponed retirement. I’m unclear if I will need to wait until I’m 60 or 62 years old to receive retirement benefits? Appreciate any input on this matter. Thanks.

    • @kenhart2516
      @kenhart2516 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      If you can go to 60 you qualify for unreduced pension and FERS supplement. That’s a good deal imo. You are almost there

    • @ykcirsedroc30
      @ykcirsedroc30 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks buddy!! 🎉

    • @adriennesmith2133
      @adriennesmith2133 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Yes, get the supplement before 62. I wish I did. But when you reach 62 the supplement stops because you are eligible for social securty.

    • @David-cv3bp
      @David-cv3bp 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@adriennesmith2133 the supplement is only for individuals who are eligible for immediate pension, not delayed, not MRA+10,

  • @javiersmith2216
    @javiersmith2216 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    If my birthday is 25 dec. Can i walk out w an immediate fers retirement 31 dec.

    • @Royale_with_Cheeze
      @Royale_with_Cheeze 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      If your birthday is Dec 25th, you may be able to walk on water 😉

    • @delbrett2257
      @delbrett2257 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      probably but how many years service and your age would be important to know for sure.

    • @scottgold1054
      @scottgold1054 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Depends on age and years.

    • @wengs2004
      @wengs2004 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      😆