I have this GS02 BOM and I agree with you regarding the pros and cons with this platform.....but.....the challenge is making it work. I have spent MANY hours working on my GS02 and I can say that it now one of the best performing crawlers I now own. My main focus is extreme rock crawling, not just a trail rig! (BTW, I have some pretty epic crawlers in my collection). Check out my build thread on RCC. The fact that some aftermarket Axial 10.2 parts are interchangeable means that upgrades are available immediately. Gmade is currently working on a new transmission case that will eliminate the clicking although the clicking can be rectified without these part(s). I absolutely love my BOM and would highly recommend it to the builders that love to make things better from the get-go!
Thanks for commenting Bil, I definitely looked over your thread, and know what you're capable of. Have always been a fan of your work. Like I say, it's a good truck, but here's the million dollar question: Would you take this (stock) over the competitors? I try and review based on what's in the box, not what you can do to make it better, but can definitely appreciate that "x factor". Thanks very much for your comments! And not to worry, I'll keep it, and make some major changes!
@@scalebuildersguild Thanxs SBG, I appreciate the compliment. Comparing the various trucks that are available, stock vs stock, the BOM is not a top competitor although it's not at the bottom of the list IMHO. I look forward to seeing what you do with your BOM.
@Bil Attridge you'll have to post up the news of when the updated transmission case is available on RCC. While I'm not currently running into issues, it'd be nice to get the updated parts as a backup.
Great review! Wish they would have done better on the torque twist. The box under the battery tray is for extra electronics and “you could put your weed in there...”🤣👍
Thanks for the review. I’ve seen a couple of these on the trails and the guys seem to love it. They were hitting the rocks with the rest of us. No issues. There are a lot of videos of them crawling just as good as any other stock truck granted tires were changed and probably suspension upgrades but that’s no different than anything else your going to buy.
I love my BOM! I have about 10 hours of run time on mine and haven't experienced the clicking gears, but then again I'm running a Tekin 45t brushed motor and 5000mah NiMH batteries! The shock hoops were to flexy, so I installed a spare link in between them for a brace!
I'm glad I watched this I've always wanted one but this review definitely changed my mind like the center axles and the transmission case are definite deal breakers..... great honest review....
Fair review and good video. Although there isn't a wide variety of non-GMADE specific aftermarket upgrades available. Keep in mind.... since it does have a lot of similarities with the SCX10.2 up front... some of those parts actually do fit! I'm enjoying my build so far, and while I'm not going to be putting the power you did, I did make sure that everything was bolted down on the transmission case. I noticed that in order for the transmission case to properly have rigidity, you need to make sure the 4 screws on the case, 1 screw on the bottom to the cover, and the 2 screws (to the slider) AND slider are bolted down properly to get that clamp. So 7 points that need to be properly bolted down (along with the sliders) :P. BTW, I've seen people use the bottom box to put some lead weight inside. I'm not sure what I'll do on mine yet. I look forward to trying to get the best out of this platform. Variety is the spice of life :)
You make fun of them for copying then make fun of them for not copying, make up your mind. Pretty sure no stock transmission will stand up to brushless power with locked wheel and full power either, seen a ton of stripped or wrecked transmissions from less than what's showed here. All the differences you complain about are the very things that make me want it more and I applaud Gmade for stepping outside the box a little. Love the rear shock setup and the articulation, the truggy/rear cage, side rails, body mount system, axle design, steering angle, and frankly, how can you complain about the battery/servo location when there's tons of video of people modding older trucks to be exactly like that, seems a smart move to me. Lastly, I'm no fanboy of any brand and all I see is people making apologies for some companies and slamming others. Not to name names but one other brand has made quite a few IMHO lousy changes lately but all you hear is apologies.
I'm not making fun of anyone. Nor do i make fun of them for not copying. You must have misunderstood. Additionally, I can full throttle with much more power in a lot of Axial trucks under the same conditions and not split the transmission case. Steering angle isn't any better than the current crop of competitors, there's too much articulation, axle design is a Currie clone, and I am merely pointing out that the design is VERY similar to current trucks. Whether it's good or bad is moot. Not sure what other brand you're talking about, so can't comment there. Thanks for your feedback!
ArielsSmartyPants It’s called a review and in reviews there is bad points and good points That is subjective to the reviewer ,not to mention if there is nothing perfect on first versions So maybe you should calm down.
Great video :-) You could might put weight in the third box, so you get a lower center gravity... :-) Regarding the "flex" issue: I saw one change the tires on the Gmade GS02 and that made a BIG difference...
I replaced the body with the Proline Ford F-250 super duty cab (meant for the Honcho) and got it to fit perfectly on the bom cage. Very pleased with the looks, trimmed to fit the bom chassis.
Hello SBG! It's only the second video I watch from you and I liked it. You went over everything man! 👍 I would show more footage of the rigs without the body, specially when you're talking about a specific point (5:16 for example, even though you showed that piece). More hands on the car footage and less of your face! 😁 Good humuristic tone!
Thanks for the video, I am planning on buying my 1st crawler, stuck deciding between scx10.2 and the trx4 sport, would like to stay at or below the 350 range, with the ability to upgrade later, what would you recommend and why?
I just heard you say something I enjoy so much cause I said this back in 2011 when I got into crawlers to much flex is a bad thing or can be a bad thing
Thought there was 3 rear shock options with these, there's an option to run with an anti roll bar at the rear and one where the shocks mount in the A shape, both of those options perform better than the lay down shocks.
Ive been into rc's for two decades now and there has not been much new designs since 2012. Kids nowadays wont be able to tell but every company (even traxxas and axial) has their own little "copied" designs off others. Thats just how marketing works. Durability and performance is the real question. there is no perfect rc. Dont just have fun playing with the rc, have fun experiencing the build and the failures. Its all apart of the hobby. Good review btw.
Hey Matt, I've seen on the SBG forum a TFL Bronco build. Q.? Whats your take on the TFL Bronco kit and performance..??? Thanks for the review of the Bom..!
Very good review, you were fair and i appreciate that. The proprietary drive shafts are what will keep me away, and i agree that the transmission is an odd design. Thumbs up, thanks!
You can use junfac steel scx10 driveshafts, you just need to remove the female ball end and install the ball end on the axle the same as the stock one is.
Really good review. Finally i got a good explanation on the clicking in the gearbox. Now i get it. Thank you. And for the box which is under the car, I think this is the oil pan, and you can add some weight in it. This car really need that, since it tips over very easy. And to keep the axles to the ground, I added the ssd aluminium knuckles and weights for scx10ii on it and it made a difference. Note that the knuckles ONLY fits to the plastic bom c-hubs, not the aluminum one. Overall great review, a lot of good information. The car is worth it. It's a super fun car. Thank you. Have a good day :)
A lot of people have picked up on the transmission skid plate issue under load. Gmade have now made a revised skid plate and top half that when used fully fixes the issue and has much better fitment. Most people have emailed Gmade to state the issue they're having, show pictures of their truck with the issue (bad fitment) then they will ship out replacement parts. The problem at the moment there are that many emails and limited stock of the new part that although they get sent out it's a slow response
Love the truggie aspect, don't particularly care for the front end, but still kinda cool overall for something different. Not sure that trans was intended for brushless. Will aftermarket build an aluminum skid/transfer case to handle brushless? Guess time will tell. Seems they left the interior totally up to the buyer.
Another great review. I'm really up on the fence with this one. I think I'd really like it, i just can't come to make the commitment... ***The extra box up front is where you would put the winch controller***
It definitely has the looks of the ‘89-‘92 Danger Ranger. The similar looking S10 didn’t have turn signals under the headlights, whereas the Ranger did. The Buffalo, while it still has flaws, seems miles ahead of this. Although I may have to find this body so I can get a Ranger since nobody will make one.
forgot the Komodo, my first trail truck. Really was hoping for more from GMade, it seemed pretty well hyped up, but time with reviews I am happy that I went with the SG4C. More expensive, sure.. but by the time I spent money on things that I would want to upgrade/change for the BOM, be right there with the Cross rig.
@@scalebuildersguild Really not all that bad, performance puts a bit more on the trail side rather than crawling. Where I go and what I wanted it to do, upgrades. Put the R1 Axles on it and a whole lot of Metal parts because I wanted it to be a bit of a slight Mega Truck. Interior and accessories puts it at almost 11lbs with battery. th-cam.com/video/LkJTkjAo_vk/w-d-xo.html
Love the Ford Chevy symbol, perfect for the Chevy S10 Ford Ranger look ! 😂 the offset front housing I really liked, small scale designs that matter, Gmade is designing a revised transmission right now and will ship the new transmission out once it is completed to people who show proof of purchase of the BOM, another thing that I like is the servo for the drag link is on the proper side for North American people. Nothing like driving a trailfinder or the hpi cruiser, seeing that link dropping down from the chassis on the passenger side all while having a scale interior with a steering wheel on the North American driver side 😂😂great video tho !
contact@gmade.net. They took a few days to respond but have been contacting me back every email I sent . I had to send proof I bought it along with pictures of the transmission proving it was built correctly. As of now they are in the testing stages of the new trans mold but stated they will ship it to me when it’s ready to go . 👍👍
That third box could be used for like a winch controller. Or a light box. I guess it's kinda cool that it's built in and van be used to hide some electronics.
Looked at this truck when they introduced it. It was kinda exciting at the time, but not that exciting. The trx-4 sport peeked my interest enough to grab one and try it out. I'm still an Axial guy after that experience. If I do get something else, I think the gen8 is the only thing I see that may get me to try a different platform.
Excellent review man!! I agree %100 .. Sounds to me that your hesitation on saying "go and get it", probably started with the way the parts and screws came in the kit. And clicking? Just can't handle the clicking, so I am out, right off the bat.. I do like the look of the body and cage though...
Thank you very much for the in depth video I learned alot about this product I must say I had high Hope's for this truck kit ...but it seems generic and lack of quality control I will just take this $ and get raw builder kit instead
@@scalebuildersguild I forgot to mention that I ran internal shocks up front, with a droop setup, that made the difference. Stock front is too much up travel. In the rear I added the sway bar kit. As a side note, the chassis panhard bar mount has too much flex, causing loss of steering in forward and excessive steering in reverse. I corrected that with a custom stainless steel brace running from the panhard bolt accross to the bottom of the battery tray. Problem 100% solved. As for torque twist, the weight transfer to the rear is of course unloading the front, however, when weighted front wheels (I don't weight rears) are added it reduced that conciderably. Lastly, if you extend the upper link lenth on the rear axel by about 2mm, it puts a bit more up angle on the rear driveshaft, this has 2 advantages. One it reduces the strain on the drive shaft and more importantly it significantly reduces torque twist (in addition to the weighted front tires).
Gmade is actually testing a redesigned transmission for the BOM, per some email correspondence with them, they will be providing these to anyone who purchased this original version. I was thinking the bottom box would be good for brass if you wanted more sprung weight up front?
@@scalebuildersguild one of the guys in the GS02 group on Facebook has a contact there, he's doing a follow-up for all of us. I recommend you join it and throw your hat into the ring. Chris Lindgren is his name. He ran the BOM to get it's "G6 The Fix" rating.
What about some shoe goo or sealant/adhesive that's not permanent to hold the transmission together but still something that allows you to pull apart if you have to
Extra box is for the extra hardware left over from building the kit. Or maybe for extra trans gears if they fit. Squeeze in what holes and dreams you can to pack it tight.
Its not a bad lookin truck. I agree it looks ALOT like a scx10.2 n the trx4. On the tranny issue... Wat about drilling the hole thru, bevel the shid side for a bevel head screw n put a nyloc nut on the top side? That would help keep the case together n stop the slip of the gears.
Hi Matt...base on your experience what's the best rtr crawler that have good,effective design...beeffy plastic parts,bearings,linkages,etc. I know its tough but I know you can do it:) thanks!
Are those two extra electronics boxes waterproof/resistance? If not, how hard would it be two make them waterproof? I often add electronics boxes to my builds for things like winch and light controllers, as well as BECs. These are things that will not need to be futzed with all that much once installed, and it makes the main RX box cleaner, easier to access and easier to dress wires when closing up. So, having G-Made throw extra electronics boxes in is a plus for me.
Hello, which one do you recommend? I have an axial scx10ii and I want to buy another one and I have doubts between this gmade the trx4 Sport and the new enduro?Thanks
Nice job on the review,im torn between the similarities because in a way its good that there doing what they know people like and at the same time it opens alot of doors for the aftermarket upgrades but i do agree companies should all be doing there own thing to make there own mark on the hobby.
the problem with each company doing there own thing is that there is no reason to reinvent the wheel. Fact is some stuff works and some doesnt, that is why each company doesnt do there own thing although they do try. Personally I'll still rock my first gen scx10, yes it is heavily modded but in reality there is nothing new out there that performs better for me. I drive scale, I run full sag and my truck is 12lbs, because it's a crawler! I never even been tempted to run brushless in a crawler. Anyway, off topic now. To each their own, that is rc and that is what makes it interesting.
i agree,my trucks are all set up the same way,droop,brushed motor,and are all heavy.i enjoy driving them as realistic as possible also.i agree why keep reinventing what works,but at the same time those front shock hoops look like they bought them directly from axial..they couldve made them atleast look different is what im saying.
Brushless is wonderful. Very efficient, smooth and gobs of power when needed. It's a decent truck, just not different enough to not warrant going with others that have done it better.
Yea I disagree with a couple points made. Where is I agree with the goofy trans design, my bom is brushless and ran on a 3s and I have not had ANY nosie or slipping from the trans gears. Also I agree with the rear being loose due to the cantilever but a thicker fluid in the rear greatly helps and I will say the aftermarket sway bar is a must. Part I really disagree on is your torque twist test. Mine takes off perfectly flat every time. If your test wouldn’t have pulled the front end up it wouldnt have twisted. With the axles both on the ground the reverse rotation works as it should, but the second the front end comes up you lose the effect
Glad it's working for you James, entirely cool to disagree. Perhaps you got the updated pieces in your kit. Have to disagree with your second point, as torque twist is exactly what is being shown. It's pretty difficult to overcome, for any tiny truck.
@@scalebuildersguild I received the updated trans parts last week, finally installed them today....much better! No clicking even with my Castle Mamba X 2850kv combo, on 4S. Happy day!
1 - The tray under the front is for "scale smuggling" lol . 2 - GMADE G stands for G why would i buy this ? You do the best reviews, informative yet impartial. Thanks !
Your right. Could have been more thought out. But I wouldnt go buy 1 only because I have 1 just like it called a trail Honcho2. Not much different. besides the rear shocks were replaced with cantilever shocks and that questionable trans. Not Impressed.
I have so much invested in Deans though, switching ALL of them now would be a monumental, and costly change. I have some Deans to XT60 adapters, and have already started using them. (and I'm Old AF)
I feel the opposite. IF I have no rc trail truck I would go axial or traxxas or even redcat first. They have a good reputation along with aftermarket support. This would be in my collection after I have all those named.
Yeah the front grille headlight decals is absolutely taken from a Ford Ranger the rest of the truck? It might as well be made from a child's drawing of a truck
I’ll revise my comment that way it’s constructive and not a blah comment so seeing how gmade is going in this semi axial sorta way gom very close to the bomber and the bom being more honcho like would you have rather seen gmade stick to a leaf sprung truck and continued to improve in that sense not so much as a rival to the tf2 but more as just a different option for us that prefer leafs to coils
I presume at some point that there'll be a new Sawback on the market. I for one embrace new and different, provided it works. This is just a little off the mark.
I wonder why product makers think if they add a bunch of proprietary components they'll sell more as opposed to making it compatible with an existing aftermarket? Or do they not even consider that replacement and upgrade parts availability is a big part of the conversation about what RC we buyers spend our money on?
I don't like the looks. Im not a fan of the tube railing for a bed.. i'm kinda confused on the fact that it's a bad thing, that they copied in some part from axial and traxxas. But it's also a bad thing that it's too different to use existing aftermarket parts. Its like bad if they copy and bad if they don't. Lol
I have this GS02 BOM and I agree with you regarding the pros and cons with this platform.....but.....the challenge is making it work. I have spent MANY hours working on my GS02 and I can say that it now one of the best performing crawlers I now own. My main focus is extreme rock crawling, not just a trail rig! (BTW, I have some pretty epic crawlers in my collection). Check out my build thread on RCC. The fact that some aftermarket Axial 10.2 parts are interchangeable means that upgrades are available immediately. Gmade is currently working on a new transmission case that will eliminate the clicking although the clicking can be rectified without these part(s). I absolutely love my BOM and would highly recommend it to the builders that love to make things better from the get-go!
Thanks for commenting Bil, I definitely looked over your thread, and know what you're capable of. Have always been a fan of your work. Like I say, it's a good truck, but here's the million dollar question: Would you take this (stock) over the competitors? I try and review based on what's in the box, not what you can do to make it better, but can definitely appreciate that "x factor". Thanks very much for your comments! And not to worry, I'll keep it, and make some major changes!
@@scalebuildersguild Thanxs SBG, I appreciate the compliment. Comparing the various trucks that are available, stock vs stock, the BOM is not a top competitor although it's not at the bottom of the list IMHO. I look forward to seeing what you do with your BOM.
@Bil Attridge you'll have to post up the news of when the updated transmission case is available on RCC. While I'm not currently running into issues, it'd be nice to get the updated parts as a backup.
One of the best RC truck review I've seen .not enough honest straight to the point reviews on TH-cam .keep it up .
If anything, I'm honest. Thanks for watching!
Great review! Wish they would have done better on the torque twist. The box under the battery tray is for extra electronics and “you could put your weed in there...”🤣👍
Havent heard that line in a long time, ha
That's pretty funny, thanks!
😂😂😂😂😂😂
Thanks for the review. I’ve seen a couple of these on the trails and the guys seem to love it. They were hitting the rocks with the rest of us. No issues. There are a lot of videos of them crawling just as good as any other stock truck granted tires were changed and probably suspension upgrades but that’s no different than anything else your going to buy.
I love my BOM! I have about 10 hours of run time on mine and haven't experienced the clicking gears, but then again I'm running a Tekin 45t brushed motor and 5000mah NiMH batteries! The shock hoops were to flexy, so I installed a spare link in between them for a brace!
Good feedback, thanks! Don't think I could go back to NiMH!
I'm glad I watched this I've always wanted one but this review definitely changed my mind like the center axles and the transmission case are definite deal breakers..... great honest review....
Great job cool to see the honesty
Thanks for the honest review. 😀👍🏁
Love that green.
I think it looks like my old 87 Chevy S10.
Thanks for watching!
great review.. aways amazed on the editing too!
Thanks very much!
Fair review and good video. Although there isn't a wide variety of non-GMADE specific aftermarket upgrades available. Keep in mind.... since it does have a lot of similarities with the SCX10.2 up front... some of those parts actually do fit! I'm enjoying my build so far, and while I'm not going to be putting the power you did, I did make sure that everything was bolted down on the transmission case. I noticed that in order for the transmission case to properly have rigidity, you need to make sure the 4 screws on the case, 1 screw on the bottom to the cover, and the 2 screws (to the slider) AND slider are bolted down properly to get that clamp. So 7 points that need to be properly bolted down (along with the sliders) :P. BTW, I've seen people use the bottom box to put some lead weight inside. I'm not sure what I'll do on mine yet. I look forward to trying to get the best out of this platform. Variety is the spice of life :)
Best of luck with your build. Rest assured, I used all the supplied hardware and torqued each bolt to it's capacity. Not user error here!
You make fun of them for copying then make fun of them for not copying, make up your mind. Pretty sure no stock transmission will stand up to brushless power with locked wheel and full power either, seen a ton of stripped or wrecked transmissions from less than what's showed here. All the differences you complain about are the very things that make me want it more and I applaud Gmade for stepping outside the box a little. Love the rear shock setup and the articulation, the truggy/rear cage, side rails, body mount system, axle design, steering angle, and frankly, how can you complain about the battery/servo location when there's tons of video of people modding older trucks to be exactly like that, seems a smart move to me.
Lastly, I'm no fanboy of any brand and all I see is people making apologies for some companies and slamming others. Not to name names but one other brand has made quite a few IMHO lousy changes lately but all you hear is apologies.
I'm not making fun of anyone. Nor do i make fun of them for not copying. You must have misunderstood. Additionally, I can full throttle with much more power in a lot of Axial trucks under the same conditions and not split the transmission case. Steering angle isn't any better than the current crop of competitors, there's too much articulation, axle design is a Currie clone, and I am merely pointing out that the design is VERY similar to current trucks. Whether it's good or bad is moot.
Not sure what other brand you're talking about, so can't comment there. Thanks for your feedback!
ArielsSmartyPants
It’s called a review and in reviews there is bad points and good points
That is subjective to the reviewer ,not to mention if there is nothing perfect on first versions
So maybe you should calm down.
I think I was pretty calm, no shouting (capitals). No name calling, just criticism. I didn't like his review, pretty simple.
Very honest video, was gonna get one but to many negative points thanks for posting this
Great video :-) You could might put weight in the third box, so you get a lower center gravity... :-)
Regarding the "flex" issue: I saw one change the tires on the Gmade GS02 and that made a BIG difference...
4:56 nice soldering my friend :D AND great review - I like it.
Hey, it's on there, isn't it?! Hahaha
I replaced the body with the Proline Ford F-250 super duty cab (meant for the Honcho) and got it to fit perfectly on the bom cage. Very pleased with the looks, trimmed to fit the bom chassis.
Nice choice!
Hey not to sure but that lower box would be a great place to load up some lead for weight up front
Nice review and test run. Liked the way review video & test run video mixed. And you are right, everybody needs limit some suspension flex! ;D
#ENDFLEXFRIDAY :)
I found your review very informative. Thanks. I'm a TRX4 fan but like to see what is new in the rc world. Not jumping ship on this one!
Not yet!
Hello SBG! It's only the second video I watch from you and I liked it. You went over everything man! 👍 I would show more footage of the rigs without the body, specially when you're talking about a specific point (5:16 for example, even though you showed that piece). More hands on the car footage and less of your face! 😁 Good humuristic tone!
Thanks for the video, I am planning on buying my 1st crawler, stuck deciding between scx10.2 and the trx4 sport, would like to stay at or below the 350 range, with the ability to upgrade later, what would you recommend and why?
Love your reviews
Yeah..... Great review!!! Definitely something to think about. It has potential 🤷🏼♂️😃👍🏻
Potential, provided they fix the errors.
You know what needs work? Your soldering on deans plugs. 4:51 Bahaha! Great review as always.
I couldn't agree more! That was a shoddy job from ages ago.
I just heard you say something I enjoy so much cause I said this back in 2011 when I got into crawlers to much flex is a bad thing or can be a bad thing
Thought there was 3 rear shock options with these, there's an option to run with an anti roll bar at the rear and one where the shocks mount in the A shape, both of those options perform better than the lay down shocks.
That might be an option now, but I don’t think it was when this kit first came out.
That's a great green color...what specific paint did you use to get that shade of green (brand and color name if you can recall)? Thanks!
Tamiya PS-21, and if I recall correctly, I backed it with neon green and then white before spraying the black logos. Cheers!
Ive been into rc's for two decades now and there has not been much new designs since 2012. Kids nowadays wont be able to tell but every company (even traxxas and axial) has their own little "copied" designs off others. Thats just how marketing works. Durability and performance is the real question. there is no perfect rc. Dont just have fun playing with the rc, have fun experiencing the build and the failures. Its all apart of the hobby. Good review btw.
Thanks for your comments!
As always a damn fine review.
Thanks very much!
Hey Matt, I've seen on the SBG forum a TFL Bronco build. Q.? Whats your take on the TFL Bronco kit and performance..???
Thanks for the review of the Bom..!
Sorry sir, no experience with the TFL - wasn't my build.
Very good review, you were fair and i appreciate that. The proprietary drive shafts are what will keep me away, and i agree that the transmission is an odd design. Thumbs up, thanks!
Thanks for the feedback Chris!
You can use junfac steel scx10 driveshafts, you just need to remove the female ball end and install the ball end on the axle the same as the stock one is.
Great Video, Matt.....but that Dean's plug though! lol
I know, living on the edge with that one. ;)
Extra boxes possibly for light controller, winch controller, maybe route a bec into it
Good idea there Joe! Hope you're well!
Very nice kit and a great Rig I like it, great video
Thanks for watching!
Really good review. Finally i got a good explanation on the clicking in the gearbox. Now i get it. Thank you. And for the box which is under the car, I think this is the oil pan, and you can add some weight in it. This car really need that, since it tips over very easy.
And to keep the axles to the ground, I added the ssd aluminium knuckles and weights for scx10ii on it and it made a difference. Note that the knuckles ONLY fits to the plastic bom c-hubs, not the aluminum one.
Overall great review, a lot of good information. The car is worth it. It's a super fun car. Thank you. Have a good day :)
Thanks for the feedback! I no longer own a BOM anymore unfortunately.
@@scalebuildersguild That's to bad. Then you only have one thing to do, get a new one 😊
@@scalebuildersguild 👍
A lot of people have picked up on the transmission skid plate issue under load. Gmade have now made a revised skid plate and top half that when used fully fixes the issue and has much better fitment.
Most people have emailed Gmade to state the issue they're having, show pictures of their truck with the issue (bad fitment) then they will ship out replacement parts. The problem at the moment there are that many emails and limited stock of the new part that although they get sent out it's a slow response
I received my new top plate, and promptly sold the whole thing.
@@scalebuildersguild I see. Not a fan in the long run?
Love the truggie aspect, don't particularly care for the front end, but still kinda cool overall for something different. Not sure that trans was intended for brushless. Will aftermarket build an aluminum skid/transfer case to handle brushless? Guess time will tell. Seems they left the interior totally up to the buyer.
Not building a transmission to withstand even mild brushless power like this is an oversight in this day and age.
Another great review. I'm really up on the fence with this one. I think I'd really like it, i just can't come to make the commitment...
***The extra box up front is where you would put the winch controller***
Yeah, sort of how I feel, not sure what to do with it now...
It definitely has the looks of the ‘89-‘92 Danger Ranger. The similar looking S10 didn’t have turn signals under the headlights, whereas the Ranger did. The Buffalo, while it still has flaws, seems miles ahead of this. Although I may have to find this body so I can get a Ranger since nobody will make one.
forgot the Komodo, my first trail truck. Really was hoping for more from GMade, it seemed pretty well hyped up, but time with reviews I am happy that I went with the SG4C. More expensive, sure.. but by the time I spent money on things that I would want to upgrade/change for the BOM, be right there with the Cross rig.
Ah, the Komodo. Yeah, how was that truck?
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Really not all that bad, performance puts a bit more on the trail side rather than crawling. Where I go and what I wanted it to do, upgrades. Put the R1 Axles on it and a whole lot of Metal parts because I wanted it to be a bit of a slight Mega Truck. Interior and accessories puts it at almost 11lbs with battery.
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Love the Ford Chevy symbol, perfect for the Chevy S10 Ford Ranger look ! 😂 the offset front housing I really liked, small scale designs that matter, Gmade is designing a revised transmission right now and will ship the new transmission out once it is completed to people who show proof of purchase of the BOM, another thing that I like is the servo for the drag link is on the proper side for North American people. Nothing like driving a trailfinder or the hpi cruiser, seeing that link dropping down from the chassis on the passenger side all while having a scale interior with a steering wheel on the North American driver side 😂😂great video tho !
Whom should I get in touch with to get this updated trans? Thanks!
contact@gmade.net.
They took a few days to respond but have been contacting me back every email I sent . I had to send proof I bought it along with pictures of the transmission proving it was built correctly. As of now they are in the testing stages of the new trans mold but stated they will ship it to me when it’s ready to go . 👍👍
That third box could be used for like a winch controller. Or a light box. I guess it's kinda cool that it's built in and van be used to hide some electronics.
Thanks!
Hey, Are you going to get the updated transmission and do review of that?
I'm not. But apparently it fixes everything. I've since sold off my Bom.
Looked at this truck when they introduced it. It was kinda exciting at the time, but not that exciting. The trx-4 sport peeked my interest enough to grab one and try it out. I'm still an Axial guy after that experience. If I do get something else, I think the gen8 is the only thing I see that may get me to try a different platform.
I'd like to try out the TRX4 Sport! Gen 8 has potential, for sure.
The box standing upside down triggers my inner Monk. 😂
Hell yes, why wouldn’t you, you don’t like fun? That sound is fixed with a massive update
Super, glad it got fixed.
Good vid, as always 👍
Thanks!
awesome review!btw,how's your trekker build going?
Slowly!
Excellent review man!! I agree %100 .. Sounds to me that your hesitation on saying "go and get it", probably started with the way the parts and screws came in the kit. And clicking? Just can't handle the clicking, so I am out, right off the bat.. I do like the look of the body and cage though...
That part sucked a lot. Thanks for watching!
Thank you very much for the in depth video I learned alot about this product I must say I had high Hope's for this truck kit ...but it seems generic and lack of quality control I will just take this $ and get raw builder kit instead
I still feel there's a place in the market, but not sure it's got enough going for it to make it a strong contender.
I added weighted aluminum wheels and am running a brushed system, articulation is awesome and I can take some very steep side angles :)
Glad you're enjoying it. Just wasn't for me I don't think.
@@scalebuildersguild I forgot to mention that I ran internal shocks up front, with a droop setup, that made the difference. Stock front is too much up travel. In the rear I added the sway bar kit.
As a side note, the chassis panhard bar mount has too much flex, causing loss of steering in forward and excessive steering in reverse. I corrected that with a custom stainless steel brace running from the panhard bolt accross to the bottom of the battery tray. Problem 100% solved.
As for torque twist, the weight transfer to the rear is of course unloading the front, however, when weighted front wheels (I don't weight rears) are added it reduced that conciderably.
Lastly, if you extend the upper link lenth on the rear axel by about 2mm, it puts a bit more up angle on the rear driveshaft, this has 2 advantages. One it reduces the strain on the drive shaft and more importantly it significantly reduces torque twist (in addition to the weighted front tires).
I neeeeedddssss to know know how you're mounting the Trekker to the Raw Builder's Kit but thumbs up regardless. Not a fan of the GOM trans though lol
Custom 3D mounts from Mod19 on Shapeways.
Gmade is actually testing a redesigned transmission for the BOM, per some email correspondence with them, they will be providing these to anyone who purchased this original version. I was thinking the bottom box would be good for brass if you wanted more sprung weight up front?
I got mine via RcMart.. And what qualification is required to obtain this redesigned transmission you're talking about? If it comes?
@@loquitos1972 proof of purchase, screen shot of your invoice.
Ok. Any contact info available?
They haven't replied to me yet Rich. Hope they do!
@@scalebuildersguild one of the guys in the GS02 group on Facebook has a contact there, he's doing a follow-up for all of us. I recommend you join it and throw your hat into the ring. Chris Lindgren is his name. He ran the BOM to get it's "G6 The Fix" rating.
Would it be for winch
What about some shoe goo or sealant/adhesive that's not permanent to hold the transmission together but still something that allows you to pull apart if you have to
I guess I could do that. Not a very clean solution. But possible! Thanks!
@@scalebuildersguild yeah I guess a black adhesive sealent would be better to match probably a black rtv sealent. Enjoy the vids!
Hey Matt! Maybe you should tighten the screws of the gearbox completely! 😂. Just joking! Nice and funny review as always from you! 😄👍
Hahahah Matteo! Trust me I did (again). Thanks for watching!
Awesome review I had same issue with transmission lol and tt 🤐
They've got a fix out there, I've yet to get it, but it's on the way.
Extra box is for the extra hardware left over from building the kit. Or maybe for extra trans gears if they fit. Squeeze in what holes and dreams you can to pack it tight.
Of which there was tons! Hahaha
Thanks, this is called 'doing the research'. Any tips for a good quality rally kit?
I like the Tamiya XV01. Never owned one, but dig it. Bigger? Try the DRX from Kyosho. I had one and that thing was kickass amazing.
Thank for the review. This kit reminds me of Kia’s suv back in the day when they reverse engineered lexus’ (rx300) lol
I'm going to have to look into that. Thanks for the research project!
Good overview. I still like the Sawback more.
Sawback was a good truck.
Its not a bad lookin truck. I agree it looks ALOT like a scx10.2 n the trx4. On the tranny issue... Wat about drilling the hole thru, bevel the shid side for a bevel head screw n put a nyloc nut on the top side? That would help keep the case together n stop the slip of the gears.
An option for sure, but shouldn't have to do it at all. Apparently there's a fix coming from GMade.
Correction you can use other drive shafts I put the ones out of my scx 10 2 metal shafts
Okay?
Correct. I’m using junfac scx10 driveshafts without the female ball end on and the male ball end connected to the axle.
The third box is for the teeth you blow off the gears!!! Plus its on the bottom so it keeps the weight low!!
BAHAHAHAHAHA
Hi Matt...base on your experience what's the best rtr crawler that have good,effective design...beeffy plastic parts,bearings,linkages,etc. I know its tough but I know you can do it:) thanks!
TRX4 kit or an SCX10II Kit.
@@scalebuildersguild Matt you really are a SBG:) I hope axial have portal axles too by then its equal...thanks bro!
Are those two extra electronics boxes waterproof/resistance? If not, how hard would it be two make them waterproof? I often add electronics boxes to my builds for things like winch and light controllers, as well as BECs. These are things that will not need to be futzed with all that much once installed, and it makes the main RX box cleaner, easier to access and easier to dress wires when closing up. So, having G-Made throw extra electronics boxes in is a plus for me.
No, they're not. No gaskets.
Hello, which one do you recommend? I have an axial scx10ii and I want to buy another one and I have doubts between this gmade the trx4 Sport and the new enduro?Thanks
Either Enduro or TRX4 Sport. Stay away from the BOM in my opinion.
Trail Turk ? :P ...on the left front fender..made me smile :)
I chopped up the sticker to make it more SBG appropriate.
The electronics box on the bottom is actually spare transmission gear storage, so when you clean the teeth of of the original set, there you go.
Hahahahaha, good one.
3rd box is for the flux capacitor to go back in time and redesign the shocks and transmission lol.
Ha! Could be. I have the new transmission parts on the way.
Nice job on the review,im torn between the similarities because in a way its good that there doing what they know people like and at the same time it opens alot of doors for the aftermarket upgrades but i do agree companies should all be doing there own thing to make there own mark on the hobby.
the problem with each company doing there own thing is that there is no reason to reinvent the wheel. Fact is some stuff works and some doesnt, that is why each company doesnt do there own thing although they do try. Personally I'll still rock my first gen scx10, yes it is heavily modded but in reality there is nothing new out there that performs better for me. I drive scale, I run full sag and my truck is 12lbs, because it's a crawler! I never even been tempted to run brushless in a crawler. Anyway, off topic now. To each their own, that is rc and that is what makes it interesting.
i agree,my trucks are all set up the same way,droop,brushed motor,and are all heavy.i enjoy driving them as realistic as possible also.i agree why keep reinventing what works,but at the same time those front shock hoops look like they bought them directly from axial..they couldve made them atleast look different is what im saying.
Brushless is wonderful. Very efficient, smooth and gobs of power when needed. It's a decent truck, just not different enough to not warrant going with others that have done it better.
Great reviews, trans has to be strong and capabilities should not be limited to design features, then put it on the market
Yep, test, and then test some more!
Appreciate your honest and fair review. Have been debating between this truck and the Cross Demon. Demon it will be. 👍
Hmmm, I think I'd choose this over the Demon if I'm honest. But, having not had one in hand, can't say for sure. Thanks for the comment!
The box underneath is probably to add weight to it
Great review Matt, well it was either the Boom or Redcat Gen 8. I believe it will be gen 8
P.S. It's strange how Redcat painted the Gen 8 a similar blue like your VS 410 and what looks like an orange for Josh 😎👍
I'll have to see if the Gen 8 is worth reviewing. And yes, since I modeled my VS4-10 after the Scout, not surprised they chose that look.
Yea I disagree with a couple points made. Where is I agree with the goofy trans design, my bom is brushless and ran on a 3s and I have not had ANY nosie or slipping from the trans gears. Also I agree with the rear being loose due to the cantilever but a thicker fluid in the rear greatly helps and I will say the aftermarket sway bar is a must. Part I really disagree on is your torque twist test. Mine takes off perfectly flat every time. If your test wouldn’t have pulled the front end up it wouldnt have twisted. With the axles both on the ground the reverse rotation works as it should, but the second the front end comes up you lose the effect
Glad it's working for you James, entirely cool to disagree. Perhaps you got the updated pieces in your kit. Have to disagree with your second point, as torque twist is exactly what is being shown. It's pretty difficult to overcome, for any tiny truck.
Glad GMade was able to figure out a way to eliminate torque twist lol...
It's magic!
U forgot to shrink wrap the esc deans connector
@5:00
I certainly did. But I like to live on the edge. ;)
That box is for the winch or lights controller, (I think)
Good though Fern, thanks!
That box is definitely to smuggle things🤔👍👍
The upside down box an indicator of your opinion of the truck? 🤔
Nah, just my comedy. If you're a fan of SBG forums, you'll know we often spend more time on the box than the product. ;)
There’s something about this look that I do like, definitely reminds me of a Ford n maybe one day I’ll put one together, great review of this kit
Ya after watching idk if I’d wanna get this sounds like it’s got some issues
Apparently, they have a fix on the way, but, I still don't know if I'd get one.
I got a reply from Gmade today, they will be shipping the transmission parts soon.
Thanks Rich, awaiting confirmation that they'll be sending me one as well.
@@scalebuildersguild I received the updated trans parts last week, finally installed them today....much better! No clicking even with my Castle Mamba X 2850kv combo, on 4S. Happy day!
1 - The tray under the front is for "scale smuggling" lol . 2 - GMADE G stands for G why would i buy this ? You do the best reviews, informative yet impartial. Thanks !
Haha! Thanks very much sir!
Your right. Could have been more thought out. But I wouldnt go buy 1 only because I have 1 just like it called a trail Honcho2. Not much different. besides the rear shocks were replaced with cantilever shocks and that questionable trans. Not Impressed.
Thanks for your feedback!
Wonder if you could put the scx10ii transmission on the gmade bom
Not likely, skid is different.
What about transmission and skid if the frame is the same as a scx10ii
Scale Builder's Guild also got too say is I really like your videos
Winch controller maybe, on the 3rd box issue?
Could be!
Enough on the market that is better than this review complete!!! I do like that cage though!
Amen!
I have a scx10 .1 that was chopped and heavily modded . And its mint . The trany issue bugs me
Right on!
Wait... you still use Dean's plugs? But it's 2018 (almost 2019)
I have so much invested in Deans though, switching ALL of them now would be a monumental, and costly change. I have some Deans to XT60 adapters, and have already started using them. (and I'm Old AF)
The transmission issue is a definite deal breaker
And proprietary outputs on the axles! Seriously?
You could add weights to the third box
Yeah, but off center?
True
I like the rearend being loose 🙀
Tmi
Agreed! Ha!
I feel the opposite. IF I have no rc trail truck I would go axial or traxxas or even redcat first. They have a good reputation along with aftermarket support. This would be in my collection after I have all those named.
You're totally right, and I worded that sentence wrong. Thanks!
Yeah the front grille headlight decals is absolutely taken from a Ford Ranger the rest of the truck? It might as well be made from a child's drawing of a truck
I’ll revise my comment that way it’s constructive and not a blah comment so seeing how gmade is going in this semi axial sorta way gom very close to the bomber and the bom being more honcho like would you have rather seen gmade stick to a leaf sprung truck and continued to improve in that sense not so much as a rival to the tf2 but more as just a different option for us that prefer leafs to coils
I presume at some point that there'll be a new Sawback on the market. I for one embrace new and different, provided it works. This is just a little off the mark.
Omg I’m dying torque twist
WHAT TORQUE TWIST?! HA!
I wonder why product makers think if they add a bunch of proprietary components they'll sell more as opposed to making it compatible with an existing aftermarket? Or do they not even consider that replacement and upgrade parts availability is a big part of the conversation about what RC we buyers spend our money on?
Agreed, and it's asking the 3rd party folks to make yet another product... I don't get it.
The third box is to keep your weed in.... 🤣🤣🤣
Hahaha
I thought I was the only one.
That answer sir got you a sub 👍🏻💯
From the reviews I have seen, they should have added a "b" on the end. Close but missed the mark, in my opinion.
Ha, I see what you did there!
I don't like the looks. Im not a fan of the tube railing for a bed.. i'm kinda confused on the fact that it's a bad thing, that they copied in some part from axial and traxxas. But it's also a bad thing that it's too different to use existing aftermarket parts. Its like bad if they copy and bad if they don't. Lol
I think you misunderstood, they copied the designs, but not so much that you can use other parts easily.