I'm watching this series again because it is so good. All the cast members, all the scripts and dialogues, the sets, and those awesome period costumes are high quality in every way. Thank you for this wonderful series. As it comes to an end, I am glad I found Endeavour and keep re-discovering it.
The opening 10 seconds of this clip are heartbreaking. He is so depressed, in so much pain, yet he pastes a smile on his face as he gets out of the car. Brilliant acting.
I’ve loved this series for all the years it’s been filmed. I understand the end is upon us but it is crushing to think of there being no more Endeavor to look forward to. Then I’ll live on watching them all over again.
Im watching then again on Prime right now, and did all weekend . I’m up to the one where they were on the bus and got stranded at that hotel. Not my favorite!
Shaun Evans is a brilliant actor, subdued, breathing life into this character with ciphers, small gestures, looks. It must be a challenge to play a character so sketchily drawn.
@@robertolee1730 Shaun was Morse from the very first shot and we only saw his back. He says he never watched Inspector Morse, but it’s eerie how he inhabit Morse physically in many ways as John Thaw did. When he handles a telephone, or put on his coat, or touches the back of his neck while he’s thinking… I see John. I see John in his eyes even though Shaun’s are gray and John’s were a brilliant blue. The spirit looking out from them feels the same. That’s why I think Shaun won the part-his eyes. The two actors have no other physicality in common. Shaun is a lanky boyish looking redhead and John certainly was none of those things. But the eyes of both are magnetic and windows to a very deep soul.
@@eventsperson5465grau-blau oder auch blass blau genannt, mit leichter Miosis.Aber die Augenfarbe ist zweitrangig ~es ist der Blick (zusammen mit der starken Mimik👁️)~immer lebendig und tief ~wie seine Seele.
Strange is fine, nice man. But the Morse's unspoken feelings to Joan just break my heart. Morse had never felt anything like this with the other women. He was always confident but not with Joan. I need something between these two in next season.
That's a tough one! We know Morse never marries so that can't happen between them. It will be interesting to see how they handle the plot lines in Season 9 because we know it will be the last season. 😔
@@judygatehouse8528 Judy, thanks for your reply to me. -- but THEY CHANGED everything else, they could have changed that he married Joan and was happy for awhile. (I thought from all the interviews, THIS was the Last season?)???? I tweeted this last night- What you get when producers HATE the fans. (Seen this before) 1. There’s only 3 shows 2. The hero goes to alcohol rehab 3. Someone else gets the girl 4. Win goes crazy again THIS is your last show?????!?? 🤷♀ THANKS A BOATLOAD #ENDEAVOUR #PBS #BBC 👎👎👎👎👎👎
@@pamelaspooner8335 that was the first time i found out she was a scot imagine her playing lorraine from deacon blue in a biopic film on deacon blue lol
I love this show…ever since the very beginning and am so sad this is the last series…I looked so forward to it every week…the acting, the writing, the story line, and the scenery makes it a total winner…bah, bah, bah!
This is such an excellent series. I'm watching it again, from the beginning and they are thoroughly enjoyable. Although the plots are familiar to me the second time around, they are so well written I can never quite remember exactly 'who dunnit' or why. And that's a pleasure!
Didn't know Mr Evans was a Scouser. I love this series, Morse has such a vulnerable and poignantly sad face, he's wonderful. Love Fred Thursday as well. What a great cast.
@@peterburke3944 I only binge watched 'Endeavour' this year so I didn't remember her from Shetland. But yes I did some digging back then and learned she's Scottish ..... like me ☺️🏴
I think it’s a sad story and all these missed opportunities for especially him!. But this is so gentle acting and I was in doubt about which I preferred ( Morse ,Lewis , or Endeavour ) but I have no doubt that Endeavour is not only better produced but especially the manuscript brings it up to another level. The hole team behind it has made a masterpiece and I often see them several times!.
Oh how I HATED for ENDEAVOUR to end but the last episode was BRILLIANT!! The script and the music! and each cast member! I teared up several times; the hug (Morse & Joan) , Morse and Thursdays goodbye, the Wed sandwich special, Brights goodbye and Shakespeare he quoted, the doctor ……AND the PASSING JAGUARS brought flood of tears…. Just BRILLIANT !!! (Glad Sam recovered… now he could star in another sequel!!!!!!!!!) How do you get so caught up in fake , pretend lives????
Yes! And, I’m glad Win and Fred got their money back!!!! I wanted Morse and Joan to get together, no matter what happened in the old shows!! @@peterburke3944
Strange sure is the dark horse! I really didn’t see that coming, but it makes perfect sense. There was the moment where Jim says to Joan, “Mind how you go”. Yes, it’s an idiom of the local parlance, but, even so, it always seemed a bit by-gone days whenever Fred says it, as he is in a way, but a good way. Thursday is old school, but in all the best of what that means. When Strange said it to Joan, it made me see the similarities between Jim and Fred. They’re cut from the same cloth. He would be the kind of person that Joan would feel the most comfortable and safe with. He’s more stable, and would be family oriented. He would be a better match for Joan, and quite the son-in-law for Fred. In a scene in Terminus, Thursday and Strange are basically dressed identically! Literally cut from the same cloth ~ lol! We can’t help but want everything for Endeavour. He’s the protagonist; the eponymous, central character. But, we have to face that the Morse we know from, “Morse”, had to become the bit of a tragic figure he became, some way, yes? Endeavour became Morse through so much emotional loss. Shutting himself off lead to a self-fulfilling prophecy of never having lasting, nurturing relationships. We should want better for Joan, although our hearts break for Morse.
That means she's marrying a clone of her dad who wants that yuk, she would definitely end up having an affair where as with Morse he they ae perfect for each other he has a bit of danger about him which Joan needs Strange is too boring 💤.
Strange is not as smart as Thursday...he is a social climber..i seem to remeber he joined clubs to get ahead....he is not a bad person..but not really deep
Since they’re going to end the show, I so WISH Morse and Joan would get married… He’s loved her so long. Old Morse wasn’t married but they’ve CHANGED other things when they wanted to.
if they had married and had kids they probably be called connie short for constance after morse's mum and freddie short for fred after fred thursday naturally
I always thought that Strange had a bit of a crush on Joan. He would always light up around her and be softer towards her and I don't think it was because she was the boss's daughter. He's also able to give Joan all the things that Morse isn't and they would be a good match. I think Strange and Joan would be happy together and be good to each other.
@@stefaniavanni5906 True, passion is important. But passion isn't everything. As much as I love Morse and Joan, they also had their pros and cons of being in a relationship together. One of the saddest things about them was their timing and how they kept getting in their own way when it came to being there. Like the time Joan set him up with her friend when it was clear he was there for her, or the several times he let his demons overtake him.
@@banannakis6723 we can thank the writers for that...they should have had others...passion is needed ..goodness esp in the beginning---just do not see settling
@@elizabethbrower1878 Really they remind me a lot of Fred and Win. Where in many ways Fred had more passion with that lady from the war who he had an affair with. But he loved Win and made a happy and fulfilling life with her.
@@peterburke3944 Morse still can't bring himself to call her Joan. It's still "Miss Thursday". Not a promising sign after all the time they've known each other.
I recently watched several episodes again, including the final one. It was so powerful, it just seems to get better when you watch it again, picking up on all the bits you missed. As for THAT scene in the church, wow! tremendous stuff.
I've not been able to emotionally invest in Endeavour and Joan's "Will they/won't they" thing (that's the issue with being a prequel; you know the answer is no). But the actors have done such a good job of it that I've been surprised how close I've come at times.
How strange Joan and Strange (pun on wirds) going out. He looks fantastic after losing weight. Really hope that Endeavor and Joan end up in the very last episode of this show.
How very unexpected to hear Shaun Evans speaking with such a strong Scouse accent! As Endeavour Morse, he never gives away any hint of it & speaks perfect RP English! Also, I was surprised how Scottish Sara Vickers sounds. Again, no sign of that accent as Joan. Even Sean Rigby hides his Lancashire accent until this interview. Amazing how they all hide their regional accents so effectively (whereas not all actors can & their native inflections or vowels often sneak in.)
Disappointed with only three episodes in S8. What I’d like to see is not just for Morse & Joan to get together but for Morse to pull himself out of the dark with the help of Joan, and then see their love grow into a strong relationship & marriage like Keith Urban & Nicole Kidman did during Keith’s really tough times with addiction. THAT would be a useful & popular path for viewers to experience! Perhaps if Morse saw the possibility of losing Joan to Srange as a wake-up call. Viewers would LOVE it!!!
Since my comment, I’ve watched the original MORSE series& the LEWIS series. Original MORSE is my least favorite show & character. He’s got a miserable life & was miserable to watch! Leaves no hope of any real love story for ENDEAVOUR show unless the writers decide to vary from the original story line. Really sad.
@@frenchcafe7342 I thought I was alone. I watched Lewis years ago and quite enjoyed it. I've just finished binge watching Endeavour and will watch again. But I can't bring myself to watch Morse. It's sacrilege to say so, but I didn't really care for John Thaw as an actor.
Yes, I later watched both sets of series where Morse originated on TV. Didn’t like the first series, the second series was better (can’t remember the name of it), but sadly shows he never married; the fact that he never did made him who he was later. I’m glad that other shows with the similar set up (an older more mature inspector with a younger detective partner) is usually married or gets married.
My Lord, Sean Rigby has lost weight! Looking very dapper. From the moment we saw Jim at the top of the stairs in “Girl” I knew he was “Strange” to the life. If you’ve watched Inspector Morse, you know that Jim Eventually becomes Morse’s boss as the DCS of Thames Valley. We never meet Mrs. Strange, But to envision her as Joanie Thursday adds a whole other layer to their backstory. Endeavour begins by out ranking a lowly PC Who becomes his friend, Only to rocket past him in promotion and then steal the girl he loved. The two became estranged over the Masons and never recover their friendship, but they retain a mutual respect for one another, even if the future DCI Morse will continue to be a giant pain in the ass to the future DCS strange as an employee. And, if you watched Inspector Morse all the way till the end, do you know that Jim is sitting by Morse’s bedside when he dies. If Joan winds up with Jim, she will have a happier and more peaceful life than she ever could with Endeavour, the self pitying and emotionally closed off alcoholic. Faint heart never won fair Lady, and Morse Is too damaged to make anyone happy, least of all himself.
Well, said. Yes, I don’t think Joan loves Endeavour. It’s more brother and sister like. Hope the writers don’t do a cliché ending bc we know that Morse never marries. Violetta was probably the most passionate of his lovers, but he’s unable to sustain any long-term relationship.
@@5877user I feel like Morse could've been happy with Nurse Monica. But unfortunately he cocked that up by flat-out ignoring her after he got out of prison
@@Sarah_9132 Shvorne Marks is gorgeous and I enjoyed the Monica storyline. It was quite bold of Russell Lewis to put it in but ultimately it could not go anywhere. Morse never takes a wife, and certainly not a black one. I do not think the character of Endeavour was inherently racist by any means, but this romance as presented was decidedly more of our time than what Is supposed to be 1967. Even supposing that Oxford in the 1960s was more open minded toward integrated couples than the United States would have been at that time, I find the character of Monica much too forward with the white bachelor policeman who lives on her hall. Standards of conduct for nurses at the time were very strict… As a single woman, She might’ve even been compelled to live in a dormitory if she was not living with family. It doesn’t seem very likely to me that a young woman living alone would feel so comfortable barging into the apartment of an unclothed male neighbor such as Monica did. As a young lady of color, she would be even more circumspect about being overly familiar with a white man she’s only just met. Also with the realities of the time being what they were, I doubt rental buildings were integrated. Monica seems to be welcomed without comment into Apartment buildings, pubs, and department stores where all the other patrons are white. The scene where she in Morse are rolling around together on a mattress in a department store and are invited to do so by the store clerk who assumes that they are a couple feels particularly unrealistic. Russell Louis is depicting of course how it should have been according to our modern sensibilities, not how it was. There is a plot line in the series “inspector George gently” which is set in the 60s contemporaneous with endeavor, in which the senior officer advises his junior colleague that continuing a romance with a black woman would be career suicide. No such conversation ever takes place here, even though Fred seems to be acquainted with Monica. He knows about her at any rate, since he goes to her when he’s looking for Morse. George gently is set in the North, But I have a hard time believing that Oxford would’ve been so progressive that everyone would have accepted Monica without question as Morse’s girlfriend. The other show is far more realistic. Monica is simply a plot device, and she deserved far better because she is a very lovely person. In fact none of the female characters in the series get to do much other than prop up our hero. It might be nice to see an offshoot series dealing with being a young black professional woman in Oxford. I would say the same for Miss Frazil and the departed WPC Trewlove… Each of these women could have interesting stories to tell in her own right, but get wasted as minor supporting characters.
I think Fred would approve the match. Young Strange is a lad with prospects, Being a company man through and through. He will be the DCS one day. And he is a self-confident and emotionally healthy individual who does not have a drinking problem and he knows how to treat a woman in a romantic relationship. Morse Is the brighter one by far, but he winds up alone for a reason. Too many demons. Fred regards him as a son in many ways But Morse is too unstable to be a good partner for anyone. I I would’ve preferred to see Morse end up with WPC Trewlove. I think she was more like endeavor in her make up, being career driven, and very smart in the ways which he is smart. It might’ve worked between them because she would have given him space to breathe. Joan had always been boy mad and Easily influenced by bad boys.
@@marywenzel3199 In the books they never mention who Strange married, but in the final book, Morse keeps a secret about Strange's cheating on his wife...
feels like a inspector george gideon novel because in the gideon book series one of gideon's daughters actually marries gideons deputy and in the inspector gamache novels gamache's deputy jean guy beaviour marries annie gamache's daughter. i guess thats where the writers got the idea
i feel morse and joan are like harry and hermione the pairing so many people wanted but never happened. come to think of it i think if morse ever looked into the mirror of esired at hogwarts he would see his mum alive and if he looked again he would see himself and joan together.
i think if morse had a younger brother (he would probably look like either james norton or eddie redmayne) that was about the same age as joan than the brother would be the lucky one to marry joan instead of strange or morse
he mentions in the last enemy he has daughters that went to redbrick universities and in cheribum and seraphim he has a son demanding money with menaces
With Mulder and Sculley we knew one day they'd have a cuddle if not an alien together. With Morse and Joan we know it can't happen, which makes it progressively more tortuous and more tragic for them both. Who wouldn't want Fred as your father-in-law, and as we know, Fred's not in the Morse incarnation, I think that will break our hearts even more so....sniff
I felt real love and passion between Morse and the Italian girl....she died in his arms and told him she loved him and I truly believe he felt the same love for her. After all, he was ready to go away with her....no hesitation there. That was the saddest ending I saw in the series.
I don’t like Strange, he changed after getting promoted from Constable. Endeavour helped him get promoted yet Strange’s attitude towards Endeavour became stroppy and superior. In the U.K. I am awaiting series’s 9.
@@kaf8821 when the original series was on, I always thought that was a sort of naval thing -- like Strange had been in the Royal Navy. But in Endeavour, they don't really give Strange a backstory with anything like that.
@@davidk7958 I don’t know about the Naval thing, but I remember Strange being a Bobby on the beat and Endeavour gave him encouragement and gave him a leg up, so to speak. But Strange got promoted before Endeavour. Didn’t something fishy happen with Endeavour’s exam if I remember correctly? Sabotage was suspected. Thereafter Strange’s attitude seemed very disrespectful towards Endeavour. Looking forward to the new series being filmed now
@@davidk7958 i've often wondered about the royal naval stuff in strange's office in the old series. i've often wondered if strange or his dad must have done a tour of duty in the navy or something
The most interesting and touching relationship is that between Morse and DCI Thursday. - Though Morse's loneliness is hard to bear, I no longer consider a close personal relationship between Morse and Joan Thursday to be possible or desirable for him. Professionally, Joan is not a competent social worker. Social work means "supporting a self-determinate und compentent life" and not constant unnecessary evaluation and intervention, especially not in a conflict between her parents or in Morse`s police questioning of an adult witness.
i dont really get or buy joan as a social worker at all now you mention it. i often imagined her becoming a school teacher or classroom assistant or maybe a nursery helper. i even imagined her working at burridges in the hosiery section where fred's italian ladyfriend from the war worked.
When I realized in what direction they seem to be taking Joan, Morse, and Strange, in order for the story timeline to match up with the tv series starring John Thaw, I tapped out. Season 7 will be the last season for me because I shipped Joan and Morse too much.
if morse had gone through with being best man it would have been too much like those scenes from love actually the ones with mark juliet and peter. lol i can just picture morse standing outside joan and stranges house holding up placards to joan summing up how he feels about her including the classic "say its carol singers"
much as i hate the idea of joan and strange being a couple. i can imagine strange beating up joan's boyfriend from series 4 because jim certainly looks as though he could rip the guy's head off
I wasn't to convince on the Joan and Jim relationship. It was thrown together too quickly. It's more like a friendship. It's sad cause on shows like Endeavour, characters like Morse. They have to make the character be all alone by themselves. I would just like to see more shows that have a happy ending for characters like his.
I really don't care what the explanation is. It's way too late in the series to make this sort of drastic change. It would have been slightly more plausible to bring in some guy she met while she was away in Season 7 than put her with Strange. Joan and Strange together is cringeworthy plus I feel part of her appeal for him is that she's his boss's daughter.
i have to agree with you on that. i did have a theory that joan would return to the show with someone she met on secondment and with a child that she adopted herself while she was away. for me pairing her up with strange is creative suicide (much as i want for her to be with morse though russell lewis isnt going to roll over for it)
@@peterburke3944 Hi Peter, I love your idea of Joan returning with a new partner and an adopted child! That would have been great. Her adopting might even reflect back on the sense of loss she must have felt during her miscarriage in Harvest. You know, there are so many ways Russ could play this, and since he’s the writer and will have his way, all we can do is toss around our own ideas. If I were writing the show, lol, I would have a dramatic moment where Endeavour finds out that Joan is dating Strange. Maybe first some bad thing happens involving the Masons, then Strange himself lets slip he’s seeing Joanie. Endeavour would flip out enough to hasten to her flat and actually ask her to give him another chance. How about that coffee, Joan (he’d ask, using her first name, finally). Joan would smile and say yes and they’d leave the flat together. END SHOW. Haha. That way, we’d all know they never got together since Morse is alone, but we’d be free to have hope they were happy for a little while. Thanks for listening to my ramble!
I also think Strange could do something fun with a series in.say the drug squad in London in say Thatchers 1970s. I mean the Lewis series hung on for a while. I'm interested in how he became I think Chief Inspector Bright rank towards the end of the Morse series.
Endeavour can’t end up with Joan………he’s Morse!!! But nevertheless I also wanted him to end up with Joan… we know that if he had, he would have messed it up… because his heart was broken long ago when his mum died xxxxx
its a good thing morse didnt go through with being best man because it would felt like a cheap copy of the first inspector lynley episode. at the beginning of that ep lynley is best man at his best mates wedding but he's depressed about it because the bride to be is an old girlfriend of lynley and lynley is still in love with her. so morse would have been the lynley character in the whole strange and joan storyline.
listen producers writers Shaun Sara the powers that be - endeavour and Joan need to end up together on this show. NO one absolutely no one thinks of Joan and strange as any type of OTP. life sucks we need a break. ENDEAVOUR+JOAN (you will get terrible post show repeat ratings if Joan gets with strange and not with endeavour. no one likes to see something that will end in a car crash) - canon be damned. thanks. sincerely.
Joan and Endeavor will NOT end up together. She and Strange are the far better match-up and I think most fans would agree. It would also be a good way to illustrate the VERY strained relationship Endeavor and Strange have in the "old" Morse episodes, the fact that Jim stole away his unrequited love interest.
@@jamesscully4714 if they were marrying joan off to someone from welfare or someone she met in stevenage or someone from the army or a black guy then okay fine fair enough but i still hate the idea of joan marrying strange
I loved it until last night's finale of Season 8, I finally turned it off, it seemed ridiculous and not like the rest of the series. My humble opinion which no one asked for. 😉
I’m not that impressed with these latest seasons. They’re predictable and have become unexciting to watch. The characters have become cliches of themselves. The soul is gone.
This current series is weak. Not sure what happened but the plots are very inferior to earlier writing. The last of the three is laughable......scary house, lots of people, no lighting, they die one by one.....does this sound like a cheap teen horror film or what?
i agree on that. i think the show really dipped after series 5. series 6 just felt so negative with the time it took to solve george fancy's death, series 7 was too rushed and series 8 was a slight improvement but the last episode ruined it for me
@@toomuchinformation dunno its something ive always had in my head since the earlier series i think its probably because the whole inter racial relationship storyline with morse and monica worked so well in series 2 it would have been nice to reuse that for joan
@@peterburke3944 It’s one thing to show the white male leading character having a relationship with a black woman, because in this series we already know that he WON’T marry her. But having a white woman (esp Thursday’s daughter) MARRYING or even DATING a black man in the 60s and 70s, it’d be beyond the pale. Audiences wouldn’t accept it AT ALL, esp as she’d be REJECTING Endeavour. To make it realistic, you’d have to show Thursday’s and Endeavour’s honest reaction, which wouldn’t be pleasant. Joan, the character, is unpopular in some quarters already; the actress would probably get trolled on social media if her character did that.
I'm watching this series again because it is so good. All the cast members, all the scripts and dialogues, the sets, and those awesome period costumes are high quality in every way. Thank you for this wonderful series. As it comes to an end, I am glad I found Endeavour and keep re-discovering it.
The opening 10 seconds of this clip are heartbreaking. He is so depressed, in so much pain, yet he pastes a smile on his face as he gets out of the car. Brilliant acting.
I’ve loved this series for all the years it’s been filmed. I understand the end is upon us but it is crushing to think of there being no more Endeavor to look forward to. Then I’ll live on watching them all over again.
Im watching then again on Prime right now, and did all weekend . I’m up to the one where they were on the bus and got stranded at that hotel. Not my favorite!
Great series. The actors are professionals in every sense of the word. Thank you PBS.
Shaun Evans is a brilliant actor, subdued, breathing life into this character with ciphers, small gestures, looks. It must be a challenge to play a character so sketchily drawn.
I belong to a cinema club and we all agree with you; Shaun Evans is always in total ownership of Morse character; he is indeed a brilliant actor!
@@robertolee1730 Shaun was Morse from the very first shot and we only saw his back. He says he never watched Inspector Morse, but it’s eerie how he inhabit Morse physically in many ways as John Thaw did. When he handles a telephone, or put on his coat, or touches the back of his neck while he’s thinking… I see John. I see John in his eyes even though Shaun’s are gray and John’s were a brilliant blue. The spirit looking out from them feels the same. That’s why I think Shaun won the part-his eyes. The two actors have no other physicality in common. Shaun is a lanky boyish looking redhead and John certainly was none of those things. But the eyes of both are magnetic and windows to a very deep soul.
@@marywenzel3199 Shaun's eyes are blue, not gray.
@@eventsperson5465 That’s relative. Blue is on a spectrum and Shaun’s eyes are definitely on the paler and more Grey toned end than were John Thaw’s.
@@eventsperson5465grau-blau oder auch blass blau genannt, mit leichter Miosis.Aber die Augenfarbe ist zweitrangig ~es ist der Blick (zusammen mit der starken Mimik👁️)~immer lebendig und tief ~wie seine Seele.
I enjoy hearing the actors natural accents. It demonstrates for us Westerners their skills and nuanced character development. Cheers!
I LOVE this show......AND the cast members.....and I loved the "ORIGINALMORSE"‼️🙌🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
I'm sure this is the best show I've ever seen ever
Strange is fine, nice man. But the Morse's unspoken feelings to Joan just break my heart. Morse had never felt anything like this with the other women. He was always confident but not with Joan.
I need something between these two in next season.
The show is ending…. !
That's a tough one! We know Morse never marries so that can't happen between them. It will be interesting to see how they handle the plot lines in Season 9 because we know it will be the last season. 😔
@@judygatehouse8528
Judy, thanks for your reply to me. -- but
THEY CHANGED everything else, they could have changed that he married Joan and was happy for awhile.
(I thought from all the interviews, THIS was the Last season?)????
I tweeted this last night-
What you get when producers HATE the fans. (Seen this before)
1. There’s only 3 shows
2. The hero goes to alcohol rehab
3. Someone else gets the girl
4. Win goes crazy again
THIS is your last show?????!?? 🤷♀
THANKS A BOATLOAD #ENDEAVOUR #PBS #BBC
👎👎👎👎👎👎
Too much of a cliché trying to put Morse w Joan. Jim has the stability and would make Joan a good husband. Morse is too broken, too much angst.
@@5877user
ENDEAVOUR Morse is NOT about JIM!
It's fun to hear the actors speaking in their regular accents. I forget Sara Vickers is Scottish.
I have sympathy for Strange
..but Joan how can do this.....I love so much the two ..ho my God
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Watch her in series 3 of Shetland. Excellent!
@@pamelaspooner8335 I have
@@pamelaspooner8335 Just watched that a few days ago.
@@pamelaspooner8335 that was the first time i found out she was a scot imagine her playing lorraine from deacon blue in a biopic film on deacon blue lol
I love this show…ever since the very beginning and am so sad this is the last series…I looked so forward to it every week…the acting, the writing, the story line, and the scenery makes it a total winner…bah, bah, bah!
There's one more series - 9 - filming now. Not sure when it will air, though.
@@judygatehouse8528 Will it air on PBS like the previous seasons?
This is such an excellent series. I'm watching it again, from the beginning and they are thoroughly enjoyable. Although the plots are familiar to me the second time around, they are so well written I can never quite remember exactly 'who dunnit' or why. And that's a pleasure!
Well said! I feel exactly the same way as I'm watching all the episodes again as well.
Didn't know Mr Evans was a Scouser.
I love this series, Morse has such a vulnerable and poignantly sad face, he's wonderful. Love Fred Thursday as well. What a great cast.
i found it surprising that sara vickers was scottish when i saw her in shetland series 3
@@peterburke3944 I only binge watched 'Endeavour' this year so I didn't remember her from Shetland. But yes I did some digging back then and learned she's Scottish ..... like me ☺️🏴
Wow, I did not see that coming! Couldn't happen to a lovlier guy.
I think it’s a sad story and all these missed opportunities for especially him!. But this is so gentle acting and I was in doubt about which I preferred ( Morse ,Lewis , or Endeavour ) but I have no doubt that Endeavour is not only better produced but especially the manuscript brings it up to another level. The hole team behind it has made a masterpiece and I often see them several times!.
Such a great program…Sean has come along way from the early parts he played when much younger
we want more 4/5 seasons
Oh how I HATED for ENDEAVOUR to end but the last episode was BRILLIANT!! The script and the music!
and each cast member!
I teared up several times; the hug (Morse & Joan) , Morse and Thursdays goodbye, the Wed sandwich special, Brights goodbye and Shakespeare he quoted, the doctor ……AND the PASSING JAGUARS brought flood of tears….
Just BRILLIANT !!!
(Glad Sam recovered… now he could star in another sequel!!!!!!!!!)
How do you get so caught up in fake , pretend lives????
seeing morse get a hug and kiss from win was something that should have been in the show ages ago
Yes! And, I’m glad Win and Fred got their money back!!!!
I wanted Morse and Joan to get together, no matter what happened in the old shows!!
@@peterburke3944
Love this show. Greetings from Canada.
Strange sure is the dark horse! I really didn’t see that coming, but it makes perfect sense. There was the moment where Jim says to Joan, “Mind how you go”. Yes, it’s an idiom of the local parlance, but, even so, it always seemed a bit by-gone days whenever Fred says it, as he is in a way, but a good way. Thursday is old school, but in all the best of what that means. When Strange said it to Joan, it made me see the similarities between Jim and Fred. They’re cut from the same cloth. He would be the kind of person that Joan would feel the most comfortable and safe with. He’s more stable, and would be family oriented. He would be a better match for Joan, and quite the son-in-law for Fred. In a scene in Terminus, Thursday and Strange are basically dressed identically! Literally cut from the same cloth ~ lol!
We can’t help but want everything for Endeavour. He’s the protagonist; the eponymous, central character. But, we have to face that the Morse we know from, “Morse”, had to become the bit of a tragic figure he became, some way, yes? Endeavour became Morse through so much emotional loss. Shutting himself off lead to a self-fulfilling prophecy of never having lasting, nurturing relationships.
We should want better for Joan, although our hearts break for Morse.
Well thought out and well said.
@@marym8028 thank you
That means she's marrying a clone of her dad who wants that yuk, she would definitely end up having an affair where as with Morse he they ae perfect for each other he has a bit of danger about him which Joan needs Strange is too boring 💤.
@@joanie3452 It happens often enough. Morse and Joan wouldn't last very long. Morse needs to be on his own, he needs his space.
Strange is not as smart as Thursday...he is a social climber..i seem to remeber he joined clubs to get ahead....he is not a bad person..but not really deep
Absolutely love a little romance. So sweet.
Since they’re going to end the show, I so WISH Morse and Joan would get married…
He’s loved her so long.
Old Morse wasn’t married but they’ve CHANGED other things when they wanted to.
if they had married and had kids they probably be called connie short for constance after morse's mum and freddie short for fred after fred thursday naturally
@@peterburke3944 Love it! I so wish it would end this way!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I wish that too, but I've read that it's not going to happen (bawling)
YES totaally agree
@@whatever3573 am crying too
I always thought that Strange had a bit of a crush on Joan. He would always light up around her and be softer towards her and I don't think it was because she was the boss's daughter. He's also able to give Joan all the things that Morse isn't and they would be a good match. I think Strange and Joan would be happy together and be good to each other.
Yes but where is the passion?
@@stefaniavanni5906 True, passion is important. But passion isn't everything. As much as I love Morse and Joan, they also had their pros and cons of being in a relationship together. One of the saddest things about them was their timing and how they kept getting in their own way when it came to being there. Like the time Joan set him up with her friend when it was clear he was there for her, or the several times he let his demons overtake him.
@@stefaniavanni5906 Yup seems boring
@@banannakis6723 we can thank the writers for that...they should have had others...passion is needed ..goodness esp in the beginning---just do not see settling
@@elizabethbrower1878 Really they remind me a lot of Fred and Win. Where in many ways Fred had more passion with that lady from the war who he had an affair with. But he loved Win and made a happy and fulfilling life with her.
I like Strange, but it's Morse who should end up with Miss Thursday! If he doesn't, I'll be very disappointed!
you're not alone there. i had a funny thought imagining strange marrying carol joan's cousin from series 5 episode 2
@@peterburke3944 Morse still can't bring himself to call her Joan. It's still "Miss Thursday". Not a promising sign after all the time they've known each other.
Sorry to disappoint but Morse doesn't end up with Joan , if you'd have watched original series with John Thaw, Morse never married.
Yep Morse end up alone with a couple of bird watching books and Strange his boss
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I recently watched several episodes again, including the final one. It was so powerful, it just seems to get better when you watch it again, picking up on all the bits you missed. As for THAT scene in the church, wow! tremendous stuff.
I love this show!
I've not been able to emotionally invest in Endeavour and Joan's "Will they/won't they" thing (that's the issue with being a prequel; you know the answer is no). But the actors have done such a good job of it that I've been surprised how close I've come at times.
Loved this series from the start, got mu brother hooked too; best success from Mexico
How strange Joan and Strange (pun on wirds) going out. He looks fantastic after losing weight. Really hope that Endeavor and Joan end up in the very last episode of this show.
I hate how Russell Lewis has milked this will-they-or-won’t-they storyline to DEATH!!!
i always had the impression he lost the weight for a different role in another project
@@peterburke3944 Unfortunately I don't get alot of British shows here in America. Only thru Cablevision, so.I can't answer the weight loss. Sorry.
How very unexpected to hear Shaun Evans speaking with such a strong Scouse accent! As Endeavour Morse, he never gives away any hint of it & speaks perfect RP English! Also, I was surprised how Scottish Sara Vickers sounds. Again, no sign of that accent as Joan. Even Sean Rigby hides his Lancashire accent until this interview. Amazing how they all hide their regional accents so effectively (whereas not all actors can & their native inflections or vowels often sneak in.)
i think jim is more convincing as a protective older brother for joan rather than a husband or boyfriend to be honest
Certainly not a love interest.
Disappointed with only three episodes in S8.
What I’d like to see is not just for Morse & Joan to get together but for Morse to pull himself out of the dark with the help of Joan, and then see their love grow into a strong relationship & marriage like Keith Urban & Nicole Kidman did during Keith’s really tough times with addiction. THAT would be a useful & popular path for viewers to experience! Perhaps if Morse saw the possibility of losing Joan to Srange as a wake-up call. Viewers would LOVE it!!!
Need to be aware that this series is a prequel. Morse never gets married!
Since my comment, I’ve watched the original MORSE series& the LEWIS series. Original MORSE is my least favorite show & character. He’s got a miserable life & was miserable to watch! Leaves no hope of any real love story for ENDEAVOUR show unless the writers decide to vary from the original story line. Really sad.
@@frenchcafe7342 I thought I was alone. I watched Lewis years ago and quite enjoyed it. I've just finished binge watching Endeavour and will watch again.
But I can't bring myself to watch Morse. It's sacrilege to say so, but I didn't really care for John Thaw as an actor.
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Yes, I later watched both sets of series where Morse originated on TV. Didn’t like the first series, the second series was better (can’t remember the name of it), but sadly shows he never married; the fact that he never did made him who he was later. I’m glad that other shows with the similar set up (an older more mature inspector with a younger detective partner) is usually married or gets married.
My Lord, Sean Rigby has lost weight! Looking very dapper. From the moment we saw Jim at the top of the stairs in “Girl” I knew he was “Strange” to the life. If you’ve watched Inspector Morse, you know that Jim Eventually becomes Morse’s boss as the DCS of Thames Valley. We never meet Mrs. Strange, But to envision her as Joanie Thursday adds a whole other layer to their backstory. Endeavour begins by out ranking a lowly PC Who becomes his friend, Only to rocket past
him in promotion and then steal the girl he loved. The two became estranged over the Masons and never recover their friendship, but they retain a mutual respect for one another, even if the future DCI Morse will continue to be a giant pain in the ass to the future DCS strange as an employee. And, if you watched Inspector Morse all the way till the end, do you know that Jim is sitting by Morse’s bedside when he dies. If Joan winds up with Jim, she will have a happier and more peaceful life than she ever could with Endeavour, the self pitying and emotionally closed off alcoholic. Faint heart never won fair Lady, and Morse Is too damaged to make anyone happy, least of all himself.
Well said, mate. I'm all aboard the Jim/Joan ship!!
Well, said. Yes, I don’t think Joan loves Endeavour. It’s more brother and sister like.
Hope the writers don’t do a cliché ending bc we know that Morse never marries. Violetta was probably the most passionate of his lovers, but he’s unable to sustain any long-term relationship.
@@Sarah_9132 Me, too. Jim looks like another man w all the weights loss.
@@5877user I feel like Morse could've been happy with Nurse Monica. But unfortunately he cocked that up by flat-out ignoring her after he got out of prison
@@Sarah_9132 Shvorne Marks is gorgeous and I enjoyed the Monica storyline. It was quite bold of Russell Lewis to put it in but ultimately it could not go anywhere. Morse never takes a wife, and certainly not a black one. I do not think the character of Endeavour was inherently racist by any means, but this romance as presented was decidedly more of our time than what Is supposed to be 1967. Even supposing that Oxford in the 1960s was more open minded toward integrated couples than the United States would have been at that time, I find the character of Monica much too forward with the white bachelor policeman who lives on her hall. Standards of conduct for nurses at the time were very strict… As a single woman, She might’ve even been compelled to live in a dormitory if she was not living with family. It doesn’t seem very likely to me that a young woman living alone would feel so comfortable barging into the apartment of an unclothed male neighbor such as Monica did. As a young lady of color, she would be even more circumspect about being overly familiar with a white man she’s only just met. Also with the realities of the time being what they were, I doubt rental buildings were integrated. Monica seems to be welcomed without comment into Apartment buildings, pubs, and department stores where all the other patrons are white. The scene where she in Morse are rolling around together on a mattress in a department store and are invited to do so by the store clerk who assumes that they are a couple feels particularly unrealistic. Russell Louis is depicting of course how it should have been according to our modern sensibilities, not how it was. There is a plot line in the series “inspector George gently” which is set in the 60s contemporaneous with endeavor, in which the senior officer advises his junior colleague that continuing a romance with a black woman would be career suicide. No such conversation ever takes place here, even though Fred seems to be acquainted with Monica. He knows about her at any rate, since he goes to her when he’s looking for Morse. George gently is set in the North, But I have a hard time believing that Oxford would’ve been so progressive that everyone would have accepted Monica without question as Morse’s girlfriend. The other show is far more realistic. Monica is simply a plot device, and she deserved far better because she is a very lovely person. In fact none of the female characters in the series get to do much other than prop up our hero. It might be nice to see an offshoot series dealing with being a young black professional woman in Oxford. I would say the same for Miss Frazil and the departed WPC Trewlove… Each of these women could have interesting stories to tell in her own right, but get wasted as minor supporting characters.
There was definitely a Mrs. Strange in the original MORSE - maybe Joan Thursday?
bit of a stretch i always use to picture strange marrying trewlove before george fancy came into the show
There was a Mrs Strange but Joan Thursday wasn't created by Colin Dexter.
Makes total sense. Strange is a solid, stand up guy and more complicated than he seems to get credit for. A lot like Joan's dad :)
I think Fred would approve the match. Young Strange is a lad with prospects, Being a company man through and through. He will be the DCS one day. And he is a self-confident and emotionally healthy individual who does not have a drinking problem and he knows how to treat a woman in a romantic relationship. Morse Is the brighter one by far, but he winds up alone for a reason. Too many demons. Fred regards him as a son in many ways But Morse is too unstable to be a good partner for anyone. I
I would’ve preferred to see Morse end up with WPC Trewlove. I think she was more like endeavor in her make up, being career driven, and very smart in the ways which he is smart. It might’ve worked between them because she would have given him space to breathe. Joan had always been boy mad and Easily influenced by bad boys.
@@marywenzel3199 In the books they never mention who Strange married, but in the final book, Morse keeps a secret about Strange's cheating on his wife...
i can picture jim knocking the shit out of joan's boyfriend from series 4
feels like a inspector george gideon novel because in the gideon book series one of gideon's daughters actually marries gideons deputy and in the inspector gamache novels gamache's deputy jean guy beaviour marries annie gamache's daughter. i guess thats where the writers got the idea
Fred I think would wany Morse to be his son in law, he's not impressed at Strange being with Joan.
we want to see Morse-Joan as couple
i feel morse and joan are like harry and hermione the pairing so many people wanted but never happened. come to think of it i think if morse ever looked into the mirror of esired at hogwarts he would see his mum alive and if he looked again he would see himself and joan together.
Thank you the chemistry is electric with Morse and Joan.
Love this programme.
this was one of my fav parts of the episode.
Sorry to see it end.
One more season to go.
Season 9
When will it air on PBS?
One of the best...the very best.
i think if morse had a younger brother (he would probably look like either james norton or eddie redmayne) that was about the same age as joan than the brother would be the lucky one to marry joan instead of strange or morse
We never find out who Superintendent Strange is married to in the 'Inspector Morse' series, yet we know he has kids and grandkids.
he mentions in the last enemy he has daughters that went to redbrick universities and in cheribum and seraphim he has a son demanding money with menaces
With Mulder and Sculley we knew one day they'd have a cuddle if not an alien together. With Morse and Joan we know it can't happen, which makes it progressively more tortuous and more tragic for them both. Who wouldn't want Fred as your father-in-law, and as we know, Fred's not in the Morse incarnation, I think that will break our hearts even more so....sniff
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read the comments. Joan with strange is like sick. she has to be with endeavour. thanks ta!
As much as I would love to see Joan and Morse together, Strange is a really amazing man to be with!
I prefer Strange than Morse for Joan.
it feels a bit repetitive to me making joan a coppers wife like win
I love Morse. I love Shaun Evans.
I felt real love and passion between Morse and the Italian girl....she died in his arms and told him she loved him and I truly believe he felt the same love for her. After all, he was ready to go away with her....no hesitation there. That was the saddest ending I saw in the series.
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I don’t like Strange, he changed after getting promoted from Constable. Endeavour helped him get promoted yet Strange’s attitude towards Endeavour became stroppy and superior. In the U.K. I am awaiting series’s 9.
As we know from the Morse series, Strange becomes Morse's boss.
@@jasminderpinder Yes I found that odd. I don’t like how he keeps calling him ‘Matey’ either.
@@kaf8821 when the original series was on, I always thought that was a sort of naval thing -- like Strange had been in the Royal Navy. But in Endeavour, they don't really give Strange a backstory with anything like that.
@@davidk7958 I don’t know about the Naval thing, but I remember Strange being a Bobby on the beat and Endeavour gave him encouragement and gave him a leg up, so to speak. But Strange got promoted before Endeavour. Didn’t something fishy happen with Endeavour’s exam if I remember correctly? Sabotage was suspected. Thereafter Strange’s attitude seemed very disrespectful towards Endeavour. Looking forward to the new series being filmed now
@@davidk7958 i've often wondered about the royal naval stuff in strange's office in the old series. i've often wondered if strange or his dad must have done a tour of duty in the navy or something
The most interesting and touching relationship is that between Morse and DCI Thursday. - Though Morse's loneliness is hard to bear, I no longer consider a close personal relationship between Morse and Joan Thursday to be possible or desirable for him. Professionally, Joan is not a competent social worker. Social work means "supporting a self-determinate und compentent life" and not constant unnecessary evaluation and intervention, especially not in a conflict between her parents or in Morse`s police questioning of an adult witness.
i dont really get or buy joan as a social worker at all now you mention it. i often imagined her becoming a school teacher or classroom assistant or maybe a nursery helper. i even imagined her working at burridges in the hosiery section where fred's italian ladyfriend from the war worked.
A few seasons ago this would have enraged me, but they’ve turned his character around.
When I realized in what direction they seem to be taking Joan, Morse, and Strange, in order for the story timeline to match up with the tv series starring John Thaw, I tapped out. Season 7 will be the last season for me because I shipped Joan and Morse too much.
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this triangle between these three feels very eerily like that cars song my best friends girl
Except she was never Morse's really.
if morse had gone through with being best man it would have been too much like those scenes from love actually the ones with mark juliet and peter. lol i can just picture morse standing outside joan and stranges house holding up placards to joan summing up how he feels about her including the classic "say its carol singers"
Season 6 was my favorite!
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this tension between with joan and morse and now with strange is like mr brightside by the killers
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Such ongoing pain… they squeezed us on this like poor people squeezing lemons.
remember macliesh? morse's mate from carshall who only appeared in the pilot episode imagine if joan married him instead of strange
much as i hate the idea of joan and strange being a couple. i can imagine strange beating up joan's boyfriend from series 4 because jim certainly looks as though he could rip the guy's head off
Is this a different actor as Strange, or he changed?
He was chubby in the earlier series
Same guy, just lost a lot of weight.
4 episodes? Come on!
I wasn't to convince on the Joan and Jim relationship. It was thrown together too quickly. It's more like a friendship. It's sad cause on shows like Endeavour, characters like Morse. They have to make the character be all alone by themselves. I would just like to see more shows that have a happy ending for characters like his.
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i think joan would be more convincing as a soldiers wife rather than a coppers wife
No se lo qué dice pero ella quiere a Morse
I really don't care what the explanation is. It's way too late in the series to make this sort of drastic change. It would have been slightly more plausible to bring in some guy she met while she was away in Season 7 than put her with Strange. Joan and Strange together is cringeworthy plus I feel part of her appeal for him is that she's his boss's daughter.
i have to agree with you on that. i did have a theory that joan would return to the show with someone she met on secondment and with a child that she adopted herself while she was away. for me pairing her up with strange is creative suicide (much as i want for her to be with morse though russell lewis isnt going to roll over for it)
@@peterburke3944 Hi Peter, I love your idea of Joan returning with a new partner and an adopted child! That would have been great. Her adopting might even reflect back on the sense of loss she must have felt during her miscarriage in Harvest. You know, there are so many ways Russ could play this, and since he’s the writer and will have his way, all we can do is toss around our own ideas. If I were writing the show, lol, I would have a dramatic moment where Endeavour finds out that Joan is dating Strange. Maybe first some bad thing happens involving the Masons, then Strange himself lets slip he’s seeing Joanie. Endeavour would flip out enough to hasten to her flat and actually ask her to give him another chance. How about that coffee, Joan (he’d ask, using her first name, finally). Joan would smile and say yes and they’d leave the flat together. END SHOW. Haha. That way, we’d all know they never got together since Morse is alone, but we’d be free to have hope they were happy for a little while. Thanks for listening to my ramble!
Morse truly deserves happiness, but it is not to be.
yeah unless you want to take a dump on colin dexter's grave by giving morse a happy ending
Wait, when did he ask her to marry him?! I've somehow missed that bit.
The finish spoiled the ending, did not need a Wedding anyways, much better Endeavor with Joan, left with our own imagination.
He was fantastic as Morse. He's also fun in Silk and Teachers!
I also think Strange could do something fun with a series in.say the drug squad in London in say Thatchers 1970s. I mean the Lewis series hung on for a while. I'm interested in how he became I think Chief Inspector Bright rank towards the end of the Morse series.
So disappointed in the last episode. After all the seasons, I was hoping for a happier conclusion for Morse. I felt let down 😔
yeah morse got friend zoned in the end
@@peterburke3944 He friendzoned himself. But they wouldn't have been good together. Morse was the eternal bachelor.
Endeavour can’t end up with Joan………he’s Morse!!! But nevertheless I also wanted him to end up with Joan… we know that if he had, he would have messed it up… because his heart was broken long ago when his mum died xxxxx
and that bitch stepmother of his made things worse i would have loved to have seen fred and jim question her as a suspect
How I wish that Ms Thursday and Morse got together..😊
Don't believe there put Strange and Joan together yuk she better of with Morse8
This season just threw things into the air and left them there. There were good story lines developing and then nothing.
yeah just felt like empty promises
its a good thing morse didnt go through with being best man because it would felt like a cheap copy of the first inspector lynley episode. at the beginning of that ep lynley is best man at his best mates wedding but he's depressed about it because the bride to be is an old girlfriend of lynley and lynley is still in love with her. so morse would have been the lynley character in the whole strange and joan storyline.
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For me I see the Thursdays being a family for Morse….J more sister….Mr. and Mrs. Mom and Dad..
Strange should’ve been sent to an island. We know he had curious doings and may’ve been the mob’s inside man.
I've always thought Sara Vickers looks so much like Kate Middleton, the future Queen. Quite a resemblance, in my opinion.
yeah i know what you mean. funny enough sara vickers did play a royal in the earlier series of the crown called marion crawford.
listen producers writers Shaun Sara the powers that be - endeavour and Joan need to end up together on this show. NO one absolutely no one thinks of Joan and strange as any type of OTP. life sucks we need a break. ENDEAVOUR+JOAN (you will get terrible post show repeat ratings if Joan gets with strange and not with endeavour. no one likes to see something that will end in a car crash) - canon be damned. thanks. sincerely.
Joan and Endeavor will NOT end up together. She and Strange are the far better match-up and I think most fans would agree. It would also be a good way to illustrate the VERY strained relationship Endeavor and Strange have in the "old" Morse episodes, the fact that Jim stole away his unrequited love interest.
@@jamesscully4714 if they were marrying joan off to someone from welfare or someone she met in stevenage or someone from the army or a black guy then okay fine fair enough but i still hate the idea of joan marrying strange
@@peterburke3944 Strange is good to her, is he not?
@@jamesscully4714 nope a boring oaf
I loved it until last night's finale of Season 8, I finally turned it off, it seemed ridiculous and not like the rest of the series. My humble opinion which no one asked for. 😉
The mystery side of the story in this episode was a mess.
At least Morse finds out that he can handle a very difficult situation after he's been falling down drunk.
yep thats one jaguar that should have been left in the garage
Hell mend Endeavour, avoidantly attached mythical creature that he is.
This explains why Morse became a curmudgeon!!!
that and also because he lost susan twice the first time at lonsdale and the second time in the episode dead on time.
Is this really love?
I see a future for Joan and Strange!
i think joan can do a lot better than strange to be honest
Overall, Season 8 was very disappointing. Not as tight as the earlier episodes.
i liked the first two eps of that season but not the third
I’m not that impressed with these latest seasons. They’re predictable and have become unexciting to watch. The characters have become cliches of themselves. The soul is gone.
This current series is weak. Not sure what happened but the plots are very inferior to earlier writing. The last of the three is laughable......scary house, lots of people, no lighting, they die one by one.....does this sound like a cheap teen horror film or what?
@@pamelaspooner8335 that episode does feel like the omen of the show's wheels falling off now you mention it
i agree on that. i think the show really dipped after series 5. series 6 just felt so negative with the time it took to solve george fancy's death, series 7 was too rushed and series 8 was a slight improvement but the last episode ruined it for me
ive often pictured joan marrying a black guy
Why?
@@toomuchinformation dunno its something ive always had in my head since the earlier series i think its probably because the whole inter racial relationship storyline with morse and monica worked so well in series 2 it would have been nice to reuse that for joan
@@peterburke3944 It’s one thing to show the white male leading character having a relationship with a black woman, because in this series we already know that he WON’T marry her. But having a white woman (esp Thursday’s daughter) MARRYING or even DATING a black man in the 60s and 70s, it’d be beyond the pale. Audiences wouldn’t accept it AT ALL, esp as she’d be REJECTING Endeavour.
To make it realistic, you’d have to show Thursday’s and Endeavour’s honest reaction, which wouldn’t be pleasant. Joan, the character, is unpopular in some quarters already; the actress would probably get trolled on social media if her character did that.
Shaun Evens’s real accent is just awful. He should try to sound like Endeavour in his real life.
we Americans like it
@@elizabethbrower1878. His real voice, or his Endeavour voice?
@@oldman1734 both
Strange certainly looks younger and handsome in season 8.