A moment at 10050 Cielo Drive.
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- In the early 1990’s James stayed at 10050 Cielo Drive in Benedict Canyon. He was the keyboard player in Nine Inch Nails and they were writing and recording their album, the Downward Spiral inside the home.
James stayed in the maid’s quarters, which had a possible paranormal quirk. Every night, at 3:33 am, the closet door in the small bedroom would pop open. He put his suitcase and furniture in front of the door to prevent it from opening, but no matter what he did, at 3:33 am, the door opened. I didn’t really believe him until I experienced the phenomenon for myself.
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It’s a shame they tore the old place down. It had such charm. That new ostentatious structure is way over the top.
That's true of so much of LA Westside.
Ich könnte in diesen Haus nicht mehr leben.
it's a concrete monstrosity
New place is a total eyesore.
@@chop3625 das stimmt. Ich hätte aber trotzdem Angst im mord Haus zu wohnen
NO wonder Sharon liked living there looks very peaceful
It was a lovely home on a beautiful piece of property. What's there now is inexcusable.
Just to think that Sharon once swam in that pool!!! 😳😪💔🕊🙏
This should have never gotten tore down what a beautiful home
I agree. They don't build homes like that anymore.
For obvious reasons it had been.
There's nothing pretty about this house, except for the view.
@@gloriaortiz1227it was a beautiful farmhouse
@beyolighter2131 there was nothing special about it. This house was doomed since those murders occurred. No one in their right mind would have bought that house.
This is amazing footage of this house. The juxtaposition of it all is so weird. It was the place of such a horrific tragedy, but yet it is so serene and peaceful.. Just love the Normandy-French farm house feeling. Upload more if you have it.
Thanks for the never seen footage; I always thought it was such a beautiful home and Ashame to tear it down; hopefully someone else has additional footage prior to the demolition of the home especially a complete walk through video
This is a really cool piece of history. Thanks for sharing 🙂
Oh wow! Thank you for uploading this footage! I’ve always wonder what the inside looked like. It’s plain but very charming. So heartbroken that it was torn down. I hope you find the time to upload more! Again thank you!
RIP James💔..hope you are doing well Kate. Thank you so much for posting this video, I do hope to see more. When you go to this area it's so quiet. You see homes all over but it's very quiet. Such a shame about what happened in 1969 and I remember that day that it did. It's pretty haunting to anyone that was around and lived here. And still is :-(
This was such a beautiful house and property.
I read somewhere that was supposed to be the nursery and Sharon was having it painted, which was why the window was open. I’ve always wondered about that room and if she’d already had it furnished to some degree. Definitely smaller than I’d imagined.
It wasn’t her house lol so I doubt it. They were only renting it for a while.
Oh, and when Sharon & Roman rented it, it came already furnished…
@@janessap1739 the baby room was definitely painted on the day the killers came and was left open to help it dry faster. The time line was published in "Helter skelter" and you can also find it in some videos here.
Heard that the front door was salvaged by NIN band member, then stored in New Orleans, and is now back in LA and is going up for memorabilia auction.
I don’t think it was stored. It was the front door of Nothing Studios.
Given the horror that took place at that house, I don't know how anyone would want to live there. I know it's highly unlikely that lightning would strike the same place twice, but the terrible murders that took place there conjures up too many terrible thoughts.
Hello .. I was a weekend guest in this home on a number of occasions in 1987/88 when I was about 33 yo .. Rudi would leave the front door wide open all night so King could go in and out at will .. I did not feel comfortable with his doing that but it was not my place to say .. I mean I wouldn’t leave my own front door open .. I don’t know why he sold the place as he loved it so much but maybe it was for financial reasons .. I drove up Canon drive and looked up at the home as I always did and it wasn’t there .. I couldn’t believe someone would tear that lovely home down .. My mother didn’t like my staying there at all .. I HAVE lived in a haunted house in Long Beach which I had to have “cleansed” but this home always felt peaceful and serene to me .. and so did the cantilevered Millman house next door where I was also a guest .. at that time there were only 2 other homes at the far end of the drive ..
As far as the crime that was perpetrated there, I was young and didn’t think about it at all at the time .. but in recent years as I’m now almost 70 it bothers me more and more that people could be so incredibly cruel .. I feel surely they must have deeply regretted their actions later ..
the new house is hideous..
Wow. What a view. What a place. Nothing in the house is fancy or updated. Still its a great looking place. 😊
Love to see more of your videos from 10050 Cielo Drive.
The new 'house' is an abomination.
This was such a lovely house
Not anymore….thank goodness.
Perhaps the most tranquil and wholesome looking place in all of Los Angeles. It's a genuine travesty they tore it up. Sickening.
Would you want to live in that death house? I wouldn’t. I’m glad they tore it down. The place was cursed.
@@laurenurban3942 I can understand your trepidation, but I would have loved to live in that house. The people that constructed it and made it a home were talented and kind human beings. The only horror, stemmed from the people outside. The only curse is shitty human beings that walk among us.
I think I would have, too.
Wow, thanks for sharing all this Kate. In memory of James. May rest in peace ❤
😳 wow I've never seen this before. Thanks for sharing. The house has been torn down...so these videos of it a really special to me.💯👍❤️
Wow, you sure captured some great video. It was a beautiful charming house.
Thank you, thank you, thank you for sharing. This video is deeply touching.
Wow so beautiful. The new place is a monstrosity.
Kate, this is an absolute gem. Thanks.
I was a guitar tech for NIN on TDS '94. started at Salt Lake City. Crazy show! 1st assignment was to drive an hour away to pick a cranberry Les Paul that Trent destroyed during MR SD.
Thank you for the comment. Did you travel with the crew on the bus or were you a tech for the show just in SLC? I’m not surprised you were sent to replace a guitar - most of their equipment and instruments suffered some form of abuse. They worked hard and played hard. ❤
I was a "filler" basically on call. I was temporarily living in SLC that summer after 4 years with Prince and waiting to get onboard with Janet Jackson. I got the call from Jim McNeil with United Concerts saying they needed extra help for the NIN show @DeltaCenter. Beefed up all employees 10x fold because of MM Jim Rose and NIN. The band made a statement ripping up the Book of Mormon on stage. BW was paid by United Concerts "not to play" Trent called MM on stage and the rest is history. He loves me ...he loves me not. Warner continued to scream as he tore pages out of the BOM. It was deep! After party was crazy too. Then I toured with Rene Elizondo and Janet for 4 years. after that back with Prince...then I'd had enough.@@katevanburen
Absolutely beautiful house. I don't know why they just didn't restore it instead of tearing the whole thing apart. What's there now is an absolute monstrosity.
No one would buy the old house.
@@detaildon 2 people did though before it was pulled down. 1 owner rented it to Trent Reznor and the keyboard player filmed this video.
The house was reportedly haunted before Sharon moved in. A woman had killed herself when her husband cheated on her. Other previous owners/tennants spoke of the haunting. After the murders, no one really dared to live there.
@@mirandarights9635 Rudi Altobelli was the owner of the home at the time of the murders. He lived in the guest house and rented out the main house until after the murders. After that, he moved into the main house and rented out the guest house until he sold the home in 1988 for 1.6 million dollars. The home sold two more times between 88-94 at which time it was demolished and replaced with that spectacle that currently stands in its place.
"Why"? Mostly because people want to move on and not buy a building associated with murder. Money makes the world go round, and it's not really good for real estate business to be near there.
Love it. My childhood home built in 1971 was ranch style with the same color and banisters.
Considering it's history and the horrific incidents that once occurred, I believe there was sure to be some paranormal incidents involved. Today's 10060 Cielo Mansion has no such news. But interesting things happened at the nearby David Oman house.
Thanks for sharing. I always wondered what that room looked like. It was such a great house.
Were you able to visit before it was demolished?
No, I did not. I’ve only seen pictures,. I love the farm style design and setting of the house which is away from the noise. It’s sad the it was torn down. I do not like the new mansion which I think is ugly.
This is awesome!!
Wonderful history that house had. Thank you so much for sharing. love to see more.
The Valentino house, right below this residence, was also, recently, torn-down. It was very much the way Valentino left it in 1926. The house was good enough for Gloria Swanson to rent while filming "Sunset Boulevard," in 1949. And was bought by billionairess Doris Duke in 1953, it is where she died.i think her butler, Bernard Lafferty who inherited a large part of her estate, and the house??? also passed-away there. Benedict Canyon is FULL of ghosts, indegenious sprits,bad mojo, broken dreams and paranormal activity.
Thanks so much for the footage, I cant imagine what tori amos picked up when she stayed there with NIN in that era…with her gift i imagine she picked up alot of energy. Please post more footage! I did step on the property once of the new horrible house… the energy was strange
Thanks alot for this video 😊
Stunning view
It’s sad that they knocked this house down
It’s not sad at all. What’s sad is what happen to the four people inside the house and a young man in the driveway.
Jeff Franklin, the now controversial creator and producer of Full House built the mansion that replaced this gorgeous home. I believe though he either just sold it or is still looking to offload the house. So peaceful that piece of history looked yet eerie it would be at night with the quiet and obvious history.
That was a really cool house. It's easy to see why she called it her dream house.
Its a shame that these people didnt get to live their lives ! I still say prayers for all the victims. All good and respectful individuals !
Thank you for this upload. I had never seen beyond the kitchen in any photos or video of the home. Now the only parts of the home I haven't seen are the dressing room and bath off from the master bedroom. Also, I've seen very few photos or video of the interior of the guest house. If you have anymore video, please post it. It will be much appreciated.
I've often wondered about those rooms as well, master dressing room and bathroom. Also what are the stairs in the rear of the house, exterior access to loft???
NICE! more nine inch nails from 1994 1995 please!!!
THANKS!
In the beginning of video, is that the bedroom where the housekeeper Winnifrid Chapman would stay? Next to the laundry room/kitchen? I always loved the look of this house, seems like a cozy cottage in the country, that overlooks LA! I would much prefer this house over that crazy monstrosity they put in its place!!
Yes, that was the housekeeper’s quarters. It was a cozy house ❤
Such a beautiful peaceful setting , so,sad that such a grisly act took place there.
Beautiful view. Too bad that house was demolished and replaced with a concrete jungle of a "house" and that was build to the edge of the property.
It will be forever in remembrance of innocent blood that was shed on the foundation of the Land that cannot be removed or replaced with anything New
Wow! New to me! Do you have any other footage of this house? Thank you so much for sharing this.
What a glimpse into the past!
2:29 I was born 1986. I just had a major flashback of those damn things . Those small little tapes . Coming home and checking your messages lmao wow
Man what a.great view I would never live there rather be homeless
Wow the vuew is stunning
What a waste of a beautiful home. Overwhelming tragedy all around .....
The house looks very much like my Grand Fathers house in South Hamptons. he Built it and called it CraigDon after his two sons.
Sharon and Roman were interested in buying Patty Dukes home in Beverly Hills but they couldn’t agree on a price and therefore ended up at Cielo Drive. 😢
This was the horror of my childhood.
Everything in Los Angeles changed after this.
20 years later here and it looks just like it did.
Had to be torn down but the reason for this persisted.
The new mansion is haunted.
@caspermilquertoast411 I think things changed everywhere after the murders. I wasn’t quite four years old and I remember it as if it were yesterday. Hearing all about it and being afraid that someone might come in the night and murder us in our sleep. Everybody was locking their doors at night and they’d never done that before.
This Hasti be the best footage of this house
The nursery! I don't think I've ever seen it before.
I think this was just the guest room. 💕
@@katevanburen No, the guest room during the Tate/Polanski time was on the other side of the house. It's was a much larger room. This room was intended for Sharon's baby and I've never seen a photo of it before.
@@padraiggillon I believe you - I don’t know anything about what Sharon planned for the rooms.
Her house was very beautiful. That big house is up for sale and no one wants it. It could be because what happened on the land
I have many memories. Apparently, YT only allows minimal characters. JW rocked.
Thank you for uploading this Kate. Did you stay in the home many times? A scene of the worst tragedy but the actual home was breathtakingly beautiful.
It was a beautiful home with a lovely view. I did not stay there very often. The landscaper shared that there was a patch of grass in the front yard that would not grow. He had tried everything from laying new sod to fertilizing, but that area remained dead. He said that was where one of the victims died. At the time I was creeped out by stories like that, but now, if I had the opportunity, I would have spent more time there. The original house has since been torn down. I don’t blame the owner for doing that, but what a loss.
@@katevanburenwow how long did you stay there for?
Hi There, Just had another look at 10050 Cielo Drive ,& looking at the New Building im lost for words, Hard to believe what happened There in 1969 even after all those Decades ago, It's a shame the old lovely home of Sharon's had to go , But i suppose if those events dident happen would it still be standing today,? As ive just read the New owner of this Property says There isn't a blade of Grass there left there now to remember of those Awful events in 1969 ,
God Bless, ❤
Wow, thanks for sharing Kate.
Who’s the one filming?
Edit: oh it’s probably James, RIP.
Yes, James filmed this scene. ♥️
I just saw this house in my dreams recently.
This wasn't the nursery, the nursery was actually a dressing room off of the master bedroom. ❤
That makes more sense to have the nursery beside Sharon's bedroom. I always thought the room she was getting painted seemed far away from her bedroom.
I had always heard that was supposed to be the nursery, the room at the far end of the house, but it does make sense to have it right by the master bedroom. It makes me wonder though if she still had the other bedroom painted and was planning to have her son eventually sleep in that one when he got older and just wanted it ready. Then again, who knows if they were planning to stay in that house for more than a year or two...I guess Roman *would* know, though.
I wish there was pics of the dressing room.
🐇🕯What a beautiful quaint house; I would have taken it but they tore it down...What a shame is the monolithic bldg that sits there now...Tku for sharing...Take care
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I want to know who left the message on the machine that led to it being destroyed and then thrown in the pool. That's hysterically on point for that period of time being in that world. Thanks for sharing, I laughed when the camera zoomed in on it. Perfect. 👌
I wondered that myself! I don’t remember if James told me why or not.
Thank you for sharing this rare footage. It’s a shame that he didn’t record the 3:33 phenomena. 😮 What is the electronic equipment in the pool?
It was an answering machine - not sure if it stopped working or they didn’t like the message…
That room is so smaller than I thought. What I never understand is why put your nursery on the other side of the house. So far away. I would have put my baby in abigails room. But I think her mom was gonna stay in there with baby. I heard. Thx for video 📹 😀 🙂
Such a nice house. Sad to hear its gone.
Side question... Who's black Toyota MR2 was that?
Good question - I don’t remember!
What year was this ?
When it shows the front lawn, I think of Abigail Folger running in terror from Patricia Krenwinkel.
Heartbreaking 💔
Do you have any footage of Sharon's bathroom? I'd love to see it.
Unfortunately, no.
AND I WOULD BET THAT IF THE ONES WHO THINK THE HOUSE SHOULD HAVE STAYED....WOULD U FEEL THE SAME IF IT WERE YOUR FAMILY.
Anyone know what the item thrown in the pool was ?
Could it have been tossed in by a member of Nine Inch Nails ? Who claim Recording equipment would randomly turn on in the middle of the night ?
It was an answering machine. Not sure if it stopped working or if they just didn’t like the voicemail from someone.
What a view she had.
Kate, thank you for sharing these footage. May I ask how or why do you have it?
Yes- I took quite a bit of the footage myself, and the rest was shot by James Woolley who was a touring member of the band in the early 90’s. Thank you for watching.
@@katevanburen
Commiserations on James' passing. I know that you remembered him fondly.
When was this footage taken? And who took it?
early 90s (probably 93/94), and the video was taken by James Woolley, former nin member & late husband of the woman who runs this channel
Such a pretty house they don’t make homes like that anymore
Thank God !
The birthplace of Nine Inch Nails' The Downward Spiral
I read that the house was a rental and that Terry Melcher (Doris Day's son) previously lived in that house. Was he the owner?
The house was owned by a few different people, starting with French actress Michelle Morgan, who commissioned the house to be built in the early 1940s. Rudy Altobelli, an openly gay talent agent, bought the house in the early 1960s and rented it out to celebrities such as Cary Grant and Dianne Cannon before renting to Melcher and his girlfriend Candice Bergen and Mark Lyndsay of the 60s music group Paul Revere and his Raiders. Mark Lyndsay swore up and down that the house was haunted, even going so far as to sleep with a loaded gun close to his bedside. Roman and Sharon were living with actress Patty Duke when they found the house on Cielo. They were house hunting because Sharon was pregnant and wanted their own home to start their family. Rudy Altobelli was a horrid man who actually sued Sharon's family for "the mess" left behind from the murders and for loss of rent because he couldn't rent it out for awhile. Utterly disgusting. Especially since it was Sharon's father who had to clean up his daughters blood. Altobelli was simply a wretched man who tried renting it out for awhile before moving into it and lived there for twenty years. He could make no more money on it so he sold it. Such a lovely home but...should never had been constructed in Benedict Canyon. Those hills are sour with evil.
@@FrankiesFancy Thank you for this very informative history.
It was a beautiful house with a grand view. Terrible that it had such a tragic, violent and sad Ending history.
If I hit the enormous lotto I'd buy the current abortion that sits there and have the house rebuilt to it's former glory.
@@LesterMoore I forgot to mention that there was a story about a dark haired female ghost who was extremely jealous of the male residents and would torment the female guests/residents that even Rudy Altobelli believed in. Supposedly haunted the house until it's demise. I often wonder if she's haunting the new structure or if she is far too appalled to be seen on that site anymore...?
May I ask what year this was recorded?😢
This was filmed in either 1992 or 93.
@@katevanburen Thank you
NIN recorded the Downward Spiral there.
Cette maison cet endroit est une horreur absolue ,, aussi belle qu ai ete cette propriete rien n aurzit du subsister de cette tragedie ,juste un endroit pour honorer les victimes
Mais la terre est si chere a L A .RIP. ❤
I can recall the outrage Trent feigned by renting the house to record “The Downward Sprial “, and I was thinking “Of course Trent Reznor didn’t know anything about it,he was 4 years old when the murders took place!”.😂
Valentinos horse stables were down the hill.
This poor house. It didn't deserve the fate it had gotten. I dont know why but usually houses where people have been murdered always freaked me out. (Like the Chris Watts house) Except this one. You can just feel the sadness coming from this house. Getting ready to house a new baby only to have a horror to happen instead. And of course, like everything in LA, is tworn down and in its place is an ugly eyesore of a building/home.
They dont make beautiful homes like this anymore.
But why is there no video of the door opening?
I wish we would have set the camera up to record all night - but in those days we just had 120 minute tapes.
@@katevanburen That’s ok thankyou for video
Superbe maison, superbe jardin. Pensée à toutes les victimes de Manson et sa bande.
crazxy
C est un peu dommage d avoir fichu du bazar partout !
I understand people are freaked out by what happened in this place, however if people really knew what happened in so so many places everywhere that we all live in. You know you think about some of the states where some of these serious wars happened such as even the Civil War, excetra excetra you think about all the deaths that occurred half the grounds we live on. And then all the murders and suicides that have happened in so many houses over the years. Yes this one is considerably worse than many, but the real issue is how famous this story is. I think this had a lot to do with why it was torn down. Similar to why the town burned down Ed Gein's house, because it was going to turn into a tourist attraction. I get people having a curiosity, I would definitely want to go there myself just out of curiosity since I've heard about the story for so many years. I'm also a New Yorker so I've never even seen the West Coast let alone California. But I think it's the freaks that make things into so much more that are the problem. Like I mean there are some serious mental case losers out there that want to glorify things and just they have no personal life so they feel cool by thinking they're badass is whatever they think. But yes that new house is just absolutely ridiculous. There is no taste in that house
I have wanted to see that back room, the intended Nursery.There aren't any pictures of it. Thank you for posting. May I share it to my Sharon Tate Group? I won't be offended if you say no.
Yes of course!
@@katevanburen Thank you!
RIP Sharon, Abigale, Voytec, Jay, and baby Paul Roman. Beautiful property. It was torn down and the address was also changed. I can see why. Sad how Sharon's dream house because her biggest nightmare. An innocent flower child. And her friends were good people too. Abigal was the Folger airess but she donated her time to help inner city kids. Voytec had escaped the nazis as a child in WW2. So had Sharon's husband Roman. Although Roman will never be able to come back to the US, I always felt he kinda should have been given a break because nazis and racists murdered his whole family and that took up most of his life. I don't think he was a normal adult because he had not had the chance to have a family until much later in life. All the brainwashed kids who commited the crime must have been off to do what they did. Brainwashing still happens today. The building in place of this house is just horrendous. It looks way too big to fit the property.
It was heartbreaking but I have an old vintage "Life" magazine that blames the poor victims for thier own murders! Horrible. It took months for the true story of what happened to be put together. Vincent Bugliosi thankfully wrote a great book about it. The kids who did the killing were not hippies they were racist nazis! They might have looked like hippies but they were not at all about free love. More like free hate! This mentality of hate and the phenomenon of the racist cult mentality is still alive and very well. God bless.
The baby's name was PAUL RICHARD. Not Roman.
@@FrankiesFancy Thank you! Sorry Paul Richard.
Don't forget Stephen Xx
@@valjackson9050 You are right. Poor kid. I feel sorry to forget Steve Parent. Just a young teenager!
Wasn't that just inside the little guest house?
No this video was taken inside the main house.
@@katevanburen TY
who got the door
I believe Trent took the door.
very morbid atmosphere.
Such a pity it was torn down, there was no need for that even though a horrible tragedy took place, why get rid of a piece of history of Sharon Tate, she should be remembered for the beauty she was, not forgotten.
You all are crazy. Yes they needed to tear it down to get rid of the bad JuJu there. What they really should’ve done is make a memorial garden and park for the victims of the Horrible evil that was done there
I've got to admit is was a lovely looking House & the views aswell, The Gardens hedges Beautifully cut.
& That lovely Tree, Who in there wright mind would cut that Tree Down, 😢, Anyway, Under the Circumstances & in so many Murder cases like this, John Casey Murders, & in England to Fred West Murders it had to come down,
But in this Case Sharon Tates home, ? What if this Buitifull home went up for SALE, Would it sell Under the Circumstances,? With one Clurse in the Sale price, It stays exsacly as it is, Sorry to bore you with all that crap.
The rest is History as they say, Very sad for everyone concerned Who were Murdered Aspesely Sharron Tate .God bless Them all, ❤,