Here's one thing I still don't get. When God told the children of Israel to kill everything that breathes (in Canaan) what are we to make of it? Did God not really say that? Did He say it but He was wrong? And furthermore, WHY did he say it? What do we do with these passages of Scripture? I don't hear them answering this directly. Anyone have insight on this?
Part of the problem is the preconception that this life decides our fate. It does not. There will be a resurrection and a Millenium. Before the Shavuot in Acts there could be no indwelling Holy Spirit and hence no rebirth. Evil men had to be slaughtered or their evil would spread through their descendants. This is seen in the world before the Flood. All things will be made new and every knee will bow in worship.
God so ruthlessly had whole villages of men, women, children, and animals killed by the Israelites for a very good reason. It was because of the Nephilum seedline! (enmity between the woman's seed and the serpents seed!) [see Genesis 3:15; chapter 6]
As a retired police officer/detective, and a believer in Christ, I believe you are right in so much of what you say. However, you don't look deeply enough into the causes/results of situations like Ferguson and the issue of dealing with evil in the world as it relates to violence in our world. It's nice to say that you look for better avenues of dealing with evil/violence, but there are seconds where the police have to make life and death decisions to protect and save life or take and injure life. It is easy to blame the police, the media and the activists do all the time. Pacifiism is okay if you never have to make those kinds of decisions. But to live and be able to have freedom to voice such things requires sacrifice for somebody, ultimately Jesus did for us; but "God in us" through our military and police do it every day... otherwise, we would be somebody else's slaves.
There are some serious mistakes in an otherwise good book. I suggest that this book is a good read and recommend it in my video review that is less than 3 minutes. I link to this interview in my description. Thank you for posting it because the violence reported in the Old Testament is a major issue with many atheists who know the Bible well. This book can give the Christian options when responding to questions atheists pose about genocide and other violent issues reported in the Bible.
The Ananias and Sapphira story has to be understood like the Nadab and Abihu story, Aaron's sons who were killed for offering strange fire. Or the guys who were killed for trying to stabilize a tipping cart carrying the Ark of the Covenant. The Presence of Yah is super holy and not to be taken lightly. As this was so close to Shavuot, the holiness factor was extreme and Peter was tuned into it.
"Jesus" as Jesus did not exist until born of Mary. Before that he was the Word of Yah or Alef Tav and very active in the Hebrew text in redemption and judgments. So the Father used the Word to set things straight, all things heading toward the production of the Messiah.
There are basically no errors in the Torah scroll. This is what the Bible calls the Word of God or scripture. No other part was ever to be honored as what Moses received directly from Yah.
Yeshua "skips over" because the judgment was laid on him for us all. He is the Filter that took all of the wrath and so he is communicating ahead of time a world cleansed of wrath. He fulfilled all of the judgments in absorbing all of them upon himself in love.
@@danielvallejo5871 That's not what I believe. John says: He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him. This would probably go back to the Noahide covenant, as Gentiles were never under the Torah of Moses.
Jesus, Peter, Paul, John, Matthew, Mark, John, David, Jude, Luke, Stephen and the Hebrews author believed all the Old Testament stories were 100% true. If Jesus believed they were true, then we are not smarter than Him. If Jesus believed it all happened, and forecast the destruction of 70AD. And even rebuked the Pharisees harshly - then we must trust Him. 2 Timothy 3:15-16 is written by a man who was about to die. The comfy American scholar has no clue the sort of suffering Paul did to evangelize and write his most inspired writings.
Good grief I love you but, there is a difference between the two covenants. We are not under a theocracy now. Render unto Cesar...(Jesus' words). Shall I continue? I agree with many things said here but you can not let politics and emotions skew your vision. Your approach is that of a really smart and genuine college student.
How funny that you guys feel the need to explain away wrath in Revelation (not Revelations as Derek keeps saying) and the Ananias and Saphira story, since you feel tempted to do the same kind of dishonest harmonizing you spoke against earlier. Why don't you say that the NT contains diversity like the OT and we are meant to pick and choose what is good and what is not? You can easily say that the writer of Revelation was not so enlightened. Likewise with the story of Ananias and Saphira. Derek seems to admit that it was just fiction. It is entirely possible that it was written from a different perspective than the one Derek suggests that Jesus and Paul advocated. He's already said that the church has taken on the attitude of the Pharisees rather than Jesus. Here we have examples in Revelation and Acts of an unenlightened point of view. I have read Derek's book and love it. I think he may be right about his belief concerning Jesus' and Paul's understanding of the OT. But his point of view does logically suggest that the Bible is not really unique as "Scripture" in any way. That it can "become" the Word of God (as Karl Barth said) as it inspires us. Of course, this can happen with any book we read. So why keep calling the Bible "Scripture"? Unless you want to call Harry Potter and Hunger Games "Scripture".
complex issue:) But read Berdyaev Nicolas "On the destiny of man"... www.peteenns.com speaks much on those same issues! Have mercy on Derek in this video, too little space to explain those non trivial issues! Authority of the Bible on the level of the Spirit and not in evry letter!
This is sadly a mix bag of half-truths and lies. Derek Flood rejects the violence of scripture because he can’t fit into his mind a God who is so holy and righteous that rebellious sinners must be punished. He rejects the Old Testament stories as war propaganda and twists the New Testament scripture to his own demise. The book of Jude describes people like this clearly. The book of Jude also affirms that Jesus was the one who led a people out of Egypt and then destroyed those who did not believe. If you approach the scriptures and cannot see the continuity between the God of the Old Testament and the God of the New Testament, then you have seriously misunderstood the scriptures. These are the written words of the Holy Spirit and they are sufficient, clear, authoritative, and necessary for us to walk in truth and godliness. Do not jump on this band wagon. Please. Read the whole counsel of God for what it is and you will see the error here. God bless!
Here's one thing I still don't get. When God told the children of Israel to kill everything that breathes (in Canaan) what are we to make of it? Did God not really say that? Did He say it but He was wrong? And furthermore, WHY did he say it? What do we do with these passages of Scripture? I don't hear them answering this directly. Anyone have insight on this?
Well it does say in scripture to my knowledge that God never spoke to the Israelites while in the wilderness.
Look into it. There are many times where God rebukes stuff from the Old Testament like he never demanded a sacrafice
Part of the problem is the preconception that this life decides our fate. It does not. There will be a resurrection and a Millenium. Before the Shavuot in Acts there could be no indwelling Holy Spirit and hence no rebirth. Evil men had to be slaughtered or their evil would spread through their descendants. This is seen in the world before the Flood. All things will be made new and every knee will bow in worship.
God so ruthlessly had whole villages of men, women, children, and animals killed by the Israelites for a very good reason.
It was because of the Nephilum seedline!
(enmity between the woman's seed and the serpents seed!) [see Genesis 3:15; chapter 6]
As a retired police officer/detective, and a believer in Christ, I believe you are right in so much of what you say. However, you don't look deeply enough into the causes/results of situations like Ferguson and the issue of dealing with evil in the world as it relates to violence in our world. It's nice to say that you look for better avenues of dealing with evil/violence, but there are seconds where the police have to make life and death decisions to protect and save life or take and injure life. It is easy to blame the police, the media and the activists do all the time. Pacifiism is okay if you never have to make those kinds of decisions. But to live and be able to have freedom to voice such things requires sacrifice for somebody, ultimately Jesus did for us; but "God in us" through our military and police do it every day... otherwise, we would be somebody else's slaves.
I like your awareness how people use uncritically those notions like God is the King,etc. Anthropomorphic and Sociomorphic use our twisted images!
There are some serious mistakes in an otherwise good book. I suggest that this book is a good read and recommend it in my video review that is less than 3 minutes. I link to this interview in my description. Thank you for posting it because the violence reported in the Old Testament is a major issue with many atheists who know the Bible well. This book can give the Christian options when responding to questions atheists pose about genocide and other violent issues reported in the Bible.
The Ananias and Sapphira story has to be understood like the Nadab and Abihu story, Aaron's sons who were killed for offering strange fire. Or the guys who were killed for trying to stabilize a tipping cart carrying the Ark of the Covenant. The Presence of Yah is super holy and not to be taken lightly. As this was so close to Shavuot, the holiness factor was extreme and Peter was tuned into it.
They were killed for trying to stabilize the tipping cart, I don't understand? That seems backwards.
The title says it all...
"Jesus" as Jesus did not exist until born of Mary. Before that he was the Word of Yah or Alef Tav and very active in the Hebrew text in redemption and judgments. So the Father used the Word to set things straight, all things heading toward the production of the Messiah.
Oops I just heard them address it. Hadn't listened to it all. My mistake
There are basically no errors in the Torah scroll. This is what the Bible calls the Word of God or scripture. No other part was ever to be honored as what Moses received directly from Yah.
Following Yeshua is following Torah in the power of the Indwelling Spirit.
The A and S story was not about money but about lying to the Spirit of Yah.
Yeshua "skips over" because the judgment was laid on him for us all. He is the Filter that took all of the wrath and so he is communicating ahead of time a world cleansed of wrath. He fulfilled all of the judgments in absorbing all of them upon himself in love.
Are you saying that God became man to save us from God himself and his wrath?
@@danielvallejo5871 That's not what I believe. John says: He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him. This would probably go back to the Noahide covenant, as Gentiles were never under the Torah of Moses.
Liberals promote godliness without an indwelling God which is impossible. Conservatives promote justice without the sacrificial love of Yeshua.
Watch what Jesus affirms :)
Jesus, Peter, Paul, John, Matthew, Mark, John, David, Jude, Luke, Stephen and the Hebrews author believed all the Old Testament stories were 100% true. If Jesus believed they were true, then we are not smarter than Him. If Jesus believed it all happened, and forecast the destruction of 70AD. And even rebuked the Pharisees harshly - then we must trust Him. 2 Timothy 3:15-16 is written by a man who was about to die. The comfy American scholar has no clue the sort of suffering Paul did to evangelize and write his most inspired writings.
I'm hearing a lot of Greek thinking here. Hebrew book gentlemen. Concrete thought steeped in Torah culture.
Brilliant!!! Also read Nicolas Berdyaev "On the destiny of man" (and other books)! He is very very deep on those issues! Also www.peteenns.com
Good grief I love you but, there is a difference between the two covenants. We are not under a theocracy now. Render unto Cesar...(Jesus' words). Shall I continue? I agree with many things said here but you can not let politics and emotions skew your vision. Your approach is that of a really smart and genuine college student.
How funny that you guys feel the need to explain away wrath in Revelation (not Revelations as Derek keeps saying) and the Ananias and Saphira story, since you feel tempted to do the same kind of dishonest harmonizing you spoke against earlier. Why don't you say that the NT contains diversity like the OT and we are meant to pick and choose what is good and what is not? You can easily say that the writer of Revelation was not so enlightened. Likewise with the story of Ananias and Saphira. Derek seems to admit that it was just fiction. It is entirely possible that it was written from a different perspective than the one Derek suggests that Jesus and Paul advocated. He's already said that the church has taken on the attitude of the Pharisees rather than Jesus. Here we have examples in Revelation and Acts of an unenlightened point of view.
I have read Derek's book and love it. I think he may be right about his belief concerning Jesus' and Paul's understanding of the OT. But his point of view does logically suggest that the Bible is not really unique as "Scripture" in any way. That it can "become" the Word of God (as Karl Barth said) as it inspires us. Of course, this can happen with any book we read. So why keep calling the Bible "Scripture"? Unless you want to call Harry Potter and Hunger Games "Scripture".
complex issue:) But read Berdyaev Nicolas "On the destiny of man"... www.peteenns.com speaks much on those same issues! Have mercy on Derek in this video, too little space to explain those non trivial issues! Authority of the Bible on the level of the Spirit and not in evry letter!
:)
This is sadly a mix bag of half-truths and lies. Derek Flood rejects the violence of scripture because he can’t fit into his mind a God who is so holy and righteous that rebellious sinners must be punished. He rejects the Old Testament stories as war propaganda and twists the New Testament scripture to his own demise. The book of Jude describes people like this clearly.
The book of Jude also affirms that Jesus was the one who led a people out of Egypt and then destroyed those who did not believe. If you approach the scriptures and cannot see the continuity between the God of the Old Testament and the God of the New Testament, then you have seriously misunderstood the scriptures. These are the written words of the Holy Spirit and they are sufficient, clear, authoritative, and necessary for us to walk in truth and godliness. Do not jump on this band wagon. Please. Read the whole counsel of God for what it is and you will see the error here. God bless!
I like his theology in this book but his politics are idiotic, skewed, and simply incorrect/dishonest.