This new firmware served me very well last week! I shot a corporate video at a dental clinic. Had to capture the procedure, interview with the doctor and the patient, and grab whatever additional B-roll I could get. Had only 2 hours to do all of that. I didn't bring a gimbal with me, had to keep my setup quick and easy. The High E Stabilisation is ridiculously good. The footage I got was like shooting on the gimbal! It can be a bit jerky, but doing some extra stabilisation in post, and the shot was buttery smooth. Honestly, I forgive Lumix for the 1.6x crop. If that is what I can achieve with a minimal handheld setup, I'll gladly take that tradeoff!
Those are the same situations I find myself in. For run and gun corporate work covering conferences and special events this stabilization is a great solution.
Thanks for the information - I do a lot of social media work - I was thinking of adding a S9 to my A7R5 just for the need for the odd stabilised clips, as I hate gimbals
Guys the real hero is the fan they put into the camera. Who ever came with that idea should get a raise. I filmed in full sun 28 degree for 2h in 4k and the camera was cold like a fridge. Lifetime of a sony camera would be 10min.
Dude, I'm so hyped. I just bought the S5 IIX this week and cannot wait to dive in! I'm coming from the Sigma fp (which was great) and excited to use this without all the limitations that held me back before now.
For anyone curious you can use the Sigma 30mm 1.4 Art on the camera without triggering S35 mode. The lens actually covers C4k without a vignette in full frame as well.
Actually, YOUR video at NAB made me switch. No joke. I had just ordered a Sony FX30 when I stumbled on your video. I was so disappointed with the FX30 ibis I immediately returned the camera and am going to order the LUMIX. Perfect camera for my needs. Keep the videos coming!
Correction for 12:03 Super 35 is actually APSC, what you were referring to was Full Frame/35mm equivalent. 35mm FF (8 perf, 36mm x 24mm) and Super 35 (4 perf, 24mm x 18.9mm) are not the same thing.
I’ve been a dedicated Fuji user, who prefers to save his money to afford his gear in cash. After the recent firmware issues with many Fuji products, the upgrade I wanted (the XH2s) made me consider holding onto my loved XT4’s, or switching to the Panasonic S5II. It may be worth switching to this beast and have money to spare for an extra lens.
I normally film quickly and not professionally at art fairs and use the 20-60 with mostly focal length 28 with gimbal. Now I have also filmed without a gimbal with the new e-stabilisation. I will now sell the gimbal... And the crop is not a problem because I filmed with focal length 20. Same look as before.
The new stab in crop is a little bit special and I can see some use cases where I'd use it with long lenses as you have, but... A lot of people already do alright on a onewheel or a rickshaw type setup (where the operator is on a wheeled (but not a full dolly) platform of some kind). to my mind it's mostly useful for documentary and wildlife type situations, where one either wants a lower footprint or there simply isn't pavement to operate on. for the most part, I think most folks gather up their b-roll as static handheld shots, or with simple low pans or jibs...which everybody else's IBIS, from Sony to Fuji to Canon to Olypus, do just fine with. There's a specific shooting style where one REALLLY wants to move with the subject in b-Roll, and *maybe* it could bring an exceptional new kind of style to content if the kids out there come up with a whole new genre of videography to take advantage of it. But I don't see anyone switching systems for this as yet. That would happen *after* the looks of that new style have been achieved, if and when there's a bandwagon folks want to pile onto. someone has to get lightning into the bottle before anyone will be thirsty, tho.
The LUT can be baked on proxys with "Real time lut", it's more simple that using "my photo style". The LUT need to be OFF, because the camera can't bake it and display it at the same time.
Hi Dustin, I loved the results I got with S5II and I’m seriously considering switching to Lumix. I have one quick question for you. What’s the best mic you can recommend for S5II?
In this example up until 70mm it was just in body but after it was with OIS. You'd get an extra stop with OIS. Probably will definitely help but won't see a huge difference
Just saw your video here which is funny. I’ve been a professional full-time Sony shooter for years. Yesterday, I sold my entire Sony dual a1 kit, fx3’s and lenses and have the Panasonic s5iix and lenses arriving today. Stoked to dive in and see what I’ve done! lol! But watching this was great! Thanks
Been exclusively on LUMIX for almost 2 years now from Sony. Haven't looked back. Just know the autofocus on LUMIX functions much different than Sony. Takes a minute to get used to. Enjoy!
@@DustinArmstrongPro thanks brother! I’m excited to dive into the system. Honestly the biggest draws the video functions (scopes etc.), open gate, and the ability to use anamorphic glass is awesome. Starting with the sigma 16-28, the new sigma 24-70, and the pana 70-200 f4. Definitely gave you a subscribe. Great content!
Great video thank you! Quick question about the Sigma ring adaptor + EF lens : have you tried it for photography? One year ago when I first tried it, it was too slow to focus, making it impossible to use for event/sport photography. Thank you!
Thanks for the detailed presentation. 2 observations: a. If I understood correctly, using the joystick to change to faces or humans (in a scene with many people) ONLY works, in FULL AREA MODE ? What happens when it is used, focus area or one area ? b. Incredible e-stab, BUT, when using 50 / 60 fps, the crop becomes 2x ??!!! (ie the 24mm lens "becomes" 50mm?)
Bro, great content. Can you please tell me which AUTOFOCUS setting did you use at 9:49 to have the Autofocus working as expected without putting hands in focus?
Great video - as always... Thank you for all that you do. QUESTION: How can I let LUMIX know that removing the "Multiple Exposure" feature from the S5 series and the New Micro 4/3 bodies, was a very bad idea. Where is the best place to submit feedback directly to LUMIX?
A very detailed review, lumix pulls us over and over again, everything is really like a surprise,autofocus,stabilization, remote work on files is super
Hey there.... I have an S1 with Vlog....looking to get a second camera. I am torn between an used S1 with Vlog for 800 euros or get a crazy deal for a S5II 1200 euros. Is that IBIS so much better? Cause video quality everybody seems to confirm S1 is better...
Just finished selling my sony gear, switching to Lumix mosly cos of the stabilization, its just the way i use the gear, I'm tired of always carrying the gimbal with me. I will be shooting much more handheld, and clonking a lighter setup in the future.
Funny enough this Firmware is why i just bought the camera. Nice to have a Lumix as a B camera. (I haven't had a Lumix since the GH4, so it's nice to be back)
Fantastic video, I really like the way you presented the new update 👏🏻👏🏻 Btw is there a Lumix discord server or something like that? I couldn't find any, besides the closed Instagram group that you mentioned in some video. Figured maybe it would be good to have one?
The new high e-stab is great on Lumix 70-300 for videong wildlife and anything far away, the crop acts like a TC this way. I am a stills photographer who just started taking short video clips along with photos and don't do editing... Not so far anyway so this is excellent for the casual videographer. I'm new to mirrorless, not just Lumix S5ii.😊
Was torn between the A7iv and the S5ii but after seeing the firmware update adding animal eye tracking I jumped on a open box S5II bundle with the 50 1.8 and kit lens. Caint wait for it to show up.
The biggest difference I love with this new mode is it reduces rolling shutter artifacts. If they made a mode that just addressed that in camera that would be wonderful.
Oof the doubt is real here! I'm still debating between the A7IV, FX30 and this S5IIX 😅 I mainly do photography, invested in a ZV-E10 some months ago but want to do client shoots using a handheld rig, and that SSD-recording option would be great with that. The S5IIX looks tempting but I have no idea if it will serve me good in the future as I rather stay within one ecosystem during the rest of my carreer w/o having to sell and reinvest when Sony or Lumix lenses (or another brand) later turns out to be better than the other which I then chose as I rather avoid using adapters.
Thank you for the true progression of autofocus with the new firmware. Please could you do a video on Panasonic S5ii X connection to Ninja V and video recording formats
What about the 24-105 OIS lense? Does the Dual IS helps even more with the High e-stabiization? (I am considering buying the 24-105 for the Dual IS and for the extra focal length, compared to sigma 24-70)
in E-standard you can see the bottom corners of the lens hood or ring. but still good 13:28 but shaky but that high was gimbal like but out of all the test, I'd like high
Nice video!, I saw your video running at NAB and I was sheeeesh can't wait to tomorrow to try the firmware and do the same thing. You ran first with the Laowa 10mm zero-D, was wondering how you liked it? Of course it's a niche lens but still, how do you like it? Is it worth the price? or Would you suggest another one (I know it's only manual focus)?
For the price Panasonic is really great! My first real camera was the GH5, loved it. I eventually went full frame which I am happy with still have soft spot for Panasonic. Thanks for the video Dustin.
I've barely tested it but I've made a few driving videos and it's absolutely amazing!! So happy :) 10:52 I'm doing this exact thing! I have the 10-18 and the 55-250 and they're actually amazing on this camera
Excellent video as always. What is really like to know is can this camera with its new firmware save me money. What I mean by that is can I pass on a tripod, gimbal, slider, lidar autofocus and still be able to create high quality work? That’s a video that you should make. Please!!!!
🙏. My opinion is no you can't. Those are all tools that can't be replaced. But this can definitely work in a lot of scenarios if you understand its limitations and disadvantages
@@DustinArmstrongPro I'm really hoping for this year, especially with the A7Siv coming out. really want to see if they can make a true video monster with Sony level epic AF for it.
Do you think the auto focus has improved enough to film fast moving sports? I know its not to the level of Sony or Canon, but do you think it's reliable enough? I'd love to see someone do a video on this but I haven't found anything.
@@DustinArmstrongPro ideally video. I think in terms of its photo capabilities the auto focus should perform well, but for video I’m really curious to see if this firmware has improved its detection capabilities for sports videos. I working on dipping my toes in that arena, but the autofocus is a little concerning.
Just a side note... from an amateur. OK, I get it, Lumix is so much more realistic and accessible financially, and has better ergonomics and IBIS than the competition. I'll stick to Lumix, since the GH2 I like the idea. But just for a principal consideration, is there anything else besides those three factors in S5ii that can compete with Sony and Canon and their AF and IQ? Or that of Nikon Z6iii?
I have a problem with my S5iiX. When I connect my monitor (HDMI - Info Display - on) I can have Display info only on 1 display (HDMI monitor or camera display) and not both. Do you have a solution for this?
TL:DR If there isn't a setting to fix jerky pans, the Stabilization feature is super over hyped compared to reality use... The downside I've been experiencing with the stabilization is when I DO want to pan handheld either up/ down or left/right, diagonal etc. the stabilization wants to lock in place to mimic a tripod but then does a big jerking movement in the direction i'm panning. This is not ideal and unless there is a setting i'm missing, this totally defeats the point of stabilization.
@@DustinArmstrongPro In 1080p at 50 and 60 fps if you are in APSC mode then you have PDAF not contrast. In full frame 1080p 50 or 60fps you have contrast AF.
@@DustinArmstrongPro the thing is though Dustin, some of us still use 1080 and rely on auto focus. It wasn’t stated at launch that PDAF was not available for this and for people like me, who rushed out and bought it we found out the hard way.
@@DustinArmstrongPro yeah but that is unfortunate lots of people recording 50/60p for that occasional 2x slowmo in post, optical flow is heavy on hardware
Map Camera ( Japan's largest camera shop ) recently shared the list of the most sold 20 cameras during their fiscal year 2023 (April 1 2023 to March 31 2024): Nikon Z8 Nikon Z f Sony α7C II Canon EOS R6 Mark II Sony α7RV Sony α7IV Fujifilm X-T5 Ricoh GR IIIx Sony α6700 Canon EOS R8 OM system OM-1 Fujifilm X-H2 Fujifilm X-T30 II Ricoh GR III Nikon Z fc Fujifilm X-S10 Sony ZV-E10 Leica Q3 Canon EOS R10 Sony ZV-E1 - looks like no one is switching
Was looking at switching from my Fuji xh2s to the s5ll mainly because Fuji firmware seems to be screwing things up with each iteration, lumix looks pretty good but these updates look ok but AF still looks and issue and eye/face more so, improved for sure but a long way to go. So much to like from lumix though I’m sorely tempted, man in bonus would be to do away with the Fuji fanboy tantrums all over the internet 😂 time for a grown up camera LOL
Watching this video made me realize how far lumix af is from sony Af 😅😅😅 we are at a point with the a9iii where it can focus a flying bird at 120 fps while lumix is still trying to focus 24 fps 😢n no tracking in 2024 😢
@@DustinArmstrongPro no excuse for Panasonic, they deliberately chosed not to go pdaf and as an ex pana user, they were easily 4-5 years ahead of everyone in the mirrorless/ hybrid space. Cameras are just tools and I don't support people hyping outdated gear to newcomers...so chill. If tmrw Panasonic is ahead again in both body and optics, I will surely switch as long as it's making my job easier ;)
Maybe in AF they're a bit behind but specs and features this camera still has things and has got new things added that many other cameras don't have that are newer. Depends on what you need no camera will fulfill every job 100%
I mean that's fine. Choose the tool that's best for what you do most not because it's the cool thing to do or your favorite content creator or something uses a certain camera/brand
The auto focus is bad dam was hoping lumix would have improved this. This unfortunately is nowhere near as good as canon or Sonys autofocus. Hoping lumix continues to attempt to improve this.
@@DustinArmstrongPro see this is the confusing part, in your video it looked bad and definitely would not hang with my canons not even the r5c, but then I see videos both pro and anti auto focus. I’m a canon shooter and also a lumix guy. I sold my lumix cameras because I really want the s5iix but this whole auto focus thing has me concerned. My r3 would run circles around what you just showed and my r5 and r5c would both beat it easily. So what did I miss? Did they do another firmware update since this video? Again I really wanna buy this camera I have the money ready to spend and I am a big lumix fan. I just can’t seem to get a straight answer from watching videos if the auto focus is good or bad as I have seen both. We both know that though Sony gets the credit for putting features in their cameras it’s in fact lumix that leads that catagory by a large margin. Anyways I really hope it is improved as I have had my eye on this camera since it was announced.
@wadesweeney2200 in this video it's showing the weaknesses of the autofocus. I have plenty of videos though since the S5II came out showing how good it is. One even on the S5IIX
S5ii is worthless without 4k60 full frame no crop regardless of how good the IBIS is. I sold mine after this firmware update because it wasn't included.
not as good as I wish it could be. High E Stabilisation provokes ghosting and gives blurry 4k . Only good for vlogging and home videos , not for serious work
This new firmware served me very well last week! I shot a corporate video at a dental clinic. Had to capture the procedure, interview with the doctor and the patient, and grab whatever additional B-roll I could get. Had only 2 hours to do all of that. I didn't bring a gimbal with me, had to keep my setup quick and easy. The High E Stabilisation is ridiculously good. The footage I got was like shooting on the gimbal! It can be a bit jerky, but doing some extra stabilisation in post, and the shot was buttery smooth. Honestly, I forgive Lumix for the 1.6x crop. If that is what I can achieve with a minimal handheld setup, I'll gladly take that tradeoff!
I think most the time the crop is not really a big deal if you have enough light. Huge game changer!
Those are the same situations I find myself in. For run and gun corporate work covering conferences and special events this stabilization is a great solution.
What lens did you use 😊
@@bangforyourbuck101 Lumix 24-105 f4
Thanks for the information - I do a lot of social media work - I was thinking of adding a S9 to my A7R5 just for the need for the odd stabilised clips, as I hate gimbals
Guys the real hero is the fan they put into the camera. Who ever came with that idea should get a raise. I filmed in full sun 28 degree for 2h in 4k and the camera was cold like a fridge. Lifetime of a sony camera would be 10min.
Fan is really nice
Dude, I'm so hyped. I just bought the S5 IIX this week and cannot wait to dive in! I'm coming from the Sigma fp (which was great) and excited to use this without all the limitations that held me back before now.
You're going to love it if you're coming from the fp.
I also lowkey love that you can update your camera via the Lumix app on the Cameras wifi network. Less arduous... when it works. lol
Yep did add that in to this video but definitely very convenient
For anyone curious you can use the Sigma 30mm 1.4 Art on the camera without triggering S35 mode. The lens actually covers C4k without a vignette in full frame as well.
I guess some sigma lenses work
Actually, YOUR video at NAB made me switch. No joke. I had just ordered a Sony FX30 when I stumbled on your video. I was so disappointed with the FX30 ibis I immediately returned the camera and am going to order the LUMIX. Perfect camera for my needs. Keep the videos coming!
I think you're not the only one😂 glad you found it!
Same man i was going for Sony until i Saw the stabilization so painfully worst
Hand's down best firmware update video out there! Great job mate!
Thanks man! It's OP
@@DustinArmstrongPro FACTS! I am working on a Gimbal VS Lumix soon 🤫
@@MatthewDangyou 😲
Correction for 12:03 Super 35 is actually APSC, what you were referring to was Full Frame/35mm equivalent. 35mm FF (8 perf, 36mm x 24mm) and Super 35 (4 perf, 24mm x 18.9mm) are not the same thing.
I’ve been a dedicated Fuji user, who prefers to save his money to afford his gear in cash. After the recent firmware issues with many Fuji products, the upgrade I wanted (the XH2s) made me consider holding onto my loved XT4’s, or switching to the Panasonic S5II. It may be worth switching to this beast and have money to spare for an extra lens.
Worth giving a try🤷♂️
I normally film quickly and not professionally at art fairs and use the 20-60 with mostly focal length 28 with gimbal. Now I have also filmed without a gimbal with the new e-stabilisation. I will now sell the gimbal... And the crop is not a problem because I filmed with focal length 20. Same look as before.
There you go!
The new stab in crop is a little bit special and I can see some use cases where I'd use it with long lenses as you have, but...
A lot of people already do alright on a onewheel or a rickshaw type setup (where the operator is on a wheeled (but not a full dolly) platform of some kind).
to my mind it's mostly useful for documentary and wildlife type situations, where one either wants a lower footprint or there simply isn't pavement to operate on.
for the most part, I think most folks gather up their b-roll as static handheld shots, or with simple low pans or jibs...which everybody else's IBIS, from Sony to Fuji to Canon to Olypus, do just fine with. There's a specific shooting style where one REALLLY wants to move with the subject in b-Roll, and *maybe* it could bring an exceptional new kind of style to content if the kids out there come up with a whole new genre of videography to take advantage of it.
But I don't see anyone switching systems for this as yet. That would happen *after* the looks of that new style have been achieved, if and when there's a bandwagon folks want to pile onto. someone has to get lightning into the bottle before anyone will be thirsty, tho.
I have the Viltrox EF-L Pro lens mount and I found it did a good job with the auto-focus on the Canon EF-S 24mm lens too. thanks for the video!
Good to know. Thanks for watching🙏
The LUT can be baked on proxys with "Real time lut", it's more simple that using "my photo style".
The LUT need to be OFF, because the camera can't bake it and display it at the same time.
Thanks!
Hi Dustin, I loved the results I got with S5II and I’m seriously considering switching to Lumix. I have one quick question for you. What’s the best mic you can recommend for S5II?
I like the Sennheiser MKE 400 for a shotgun type mic or the DJI mic 2s
That E stabilization High looks like gimbal almost, impressive
Pretty wild
Very helpful. Purchased the camera with 2 lens deal plus the 24-105 with IS. Are you testing the stabilization with or without an IS lens?
In this example up until 70mm it was just in body but after it was with OIS. You'd get an extra stop with OIS. Probably will definitely help but won't see a huge difference
I'm really hype with this firmware. I don't have the S5iiX but one floated online in my area for less than 1500 usd. Would I jump and get it?
$1500 is a really good price for one I won't lie
Just saw your video here which is funny. I’ve been a professional full-time Sony shooter for years. Yesterday, I sold my entire Sony dual a1 kit, fx3’s and lenses and have the Panasonic s5iix and lenses arriving today. Stoked to dive in and see what I’ve done! lol! But watching this was great! Thanks
Been exclusively on LUMIX for almost 2 years now from Sony. Haven't looked back. Just know the autofocus on LUMIX functions much different than Sony. Takes a minute to get used to. Enjoy!
@@DustinArmstrongPro thanks brother! I’m excited to dive into the system. Honestly the biggest draws the video functions (scopes etc.), open gate, and the ability to use anamorphic glass is awesome. Starting with the sigma 16-28, the new sigma 24-70, and the pana 70-200 f4. Definitely gave you a subscribe. Great content!
@@Robert.hodgsonhow are you doing with the new environment?
If the G9ii focus is faster, could that be down to not the motor being faster, but the micro 4/3 lens having much less mass of glass to move?
Great video thank you! Quick question about the Sigma ring adaptor + EF lens : have you tried it for photography? One year ago when I first tried it, it was too slow to focus, making it impossible to use for event/sport photography. Thank you!
I haven't for photography, although I'm not sure it'll do great for sport photography. Maybe? But I have doubts
@@DustinArmstrongPro Thank you for your reply!
Thanks for the detailed presentation. 2 observations:
a. If I understood correctly, using the joystick to change to faces or humans (in a scene with many people) ONLY works, in FULL AREA MODE ? What happens when it is used, focus area or one area ?
b. Incredible e-stab, BUT, when using 50 / 60 fps, the crop becomes 2x ??!!! (ie the 24mm lens "becomes" 50mm?)
Not sure if the crop becomes 1.9x in S35 or if it's not as much in S35. I'll have to test and see
Bro, great content. Can you please tell me which AUTOFOCUS setting did you use at 9:49 to have the Autofocus working as expected without putting hands in focus?
On my talking head or the test footage?
@@DustinArmstrongPro Your talking head at 9:49. Thank you for the response!
Great video - as always... Thank you for all that you do. QUESTION: How can I let LUMIX know that removing the "Multiple Exposure" feature from the S5 series and the New Micro 4/3 bodies, was a very bad idea. Where is the best place to submit feedback directly to LUMIX?
Probably during the LUMIX live stream that happens on the LUMIXusa youtube channel with Sean
Brooooooo that new stabilization is 🔥
🔥
19:47 Hi Dustin, will the frameio upload work simultaneously as the camera is shooting tethered to a computer with LRC or Capture One for stills?
Would a sigma 18-35 1.8 work with the new trick discovered (S35 + High E-stabilization) ?
A very detailed review, lumix pulls us over and over again, everything is really like a surprise,autofocus,stabilization, remote work on files is super
Wonder what kind of surprises they got next?
Here you can see the start with a jerk
Hey there.... I have an S1 with Vlog....looking to get a second camera. I am torn between an used S1 with Vlog for 800 euros or get a crazy deal for a S5II 1200 euros. Is that IBIS so much better? Cause video quality everybody seems to confirm S1 is better...
I would choose a S5II all day but that's just me
Just finished selling my sony gear, switching to Lumix mosly cos of the stabilization, its just the way i use the gear, I'm tired of always carrying the gimbal with me. I will be shooting much more handheld, and clonking a lighter setup in the future.
Seems to be the trend is going for lighter setups
Funny enough this Firmware is why i just bought the camera. Nice to have a Lumix as a B camera. (I haven't had a Lumix since the GH4, so it's nice to be back)
Welcome back my brother
Man that Robot is sick. How much is one of those? I bet it's expensive af. Do you have a link to that?
have they fixed the HDMI latency issues ?
I put the focus limiter for talking head if i know my mic will be visible in the foreground
Round about way that can work for some
Fantastic video, I really like the way you presented the new update 👏🏻👏🏻
Btw is there a Lumix discord server or something like that? I couldn't find any, besides the closed Instagram group that you mentioned in some video. Figured maybe it would be good to have one?
Glad you enjoyed! None currently, but someone is working on that. Not me, but I'll be apart of it. Stay tuned in the next couple of months
@@DustinArmstrongPro Oh, nice! Thank you for the info! 🤘🏻🤘🏻
What was the name of that friend of yours who has great video tutorials done by and about the G9 mark I ?
The new high e-stab is great on Lumix 70-300 for videong wildlife and anything far away, the crop acts like a TC this way. I am a stills photographer who just started taking short video clips along with photos and don't do editing... Not so far anyway so this is excellent for the casual videographer. I'm new to mirrorless, not just Lumix S5ii.😊
Never even thought about that
GHX is a good idea but I want a compact L mount body and a cinema L mount body with VND over IBIS
Guess we'll see what LUMIX is working on😉
You gotta start running in every video! Just carry the Lumix on your next jog. Quality content!
Good exercise
Was torn between the A7iv and the S5ii but after seeing the firmware update adding animal eye tracking I jumped on a open box S5II bundle with the 50 1.8 and kit lens. Caint wait for it to show up.
Enjoy it!
The biggest difference I love with this new mode is it reduces rolling shutter artifacts. If they made a mode that just addressed that in camera that would be wonderful.
That's true
Oof the doubt is real here! I'm still debating between the A7IV, FX30 and this S5IIX 😅 I mainly do photography, invested in a ZV-E10 some months ago but want to do client shoots using a handheld rig, and that SSD-recording option would be great with that. The S5IIX looks tempting but I have no idea if it will serve me good in the future as I rather stay within one ecosystem during the rest of my carreer w/o having to sell and reinvest when Sony or Lumix lenses (or another brand) later turns out to be better than the other which I then chose as I rather avoid using adapters.
If using a gimbal would you recommend turning off all IBIS?
Yes because it can end up fighting the gimbal. Not a set rule but for the most part yes
Thank you for the true progression of autofocus with the new firmware. Please could you do a video on Panasonic S5ii X connection to Ninja V and video recording formats
Thanks for watching. I use black magic assist so unfortunately I probably won't do a video on the ninja
how is lumix s5iix after the latest update last week ? is it possible 4K recording in apple pro res?
S5IIX can do apple pro res in 4k
Great honest Video as always Dustin, much appreciated from London UK
🙏🙏🙏
does it work with linux s1
Thumbs up for the horsiessss
Fun fact I grew up with horses so your boy can ride🤫
are you using the sigma mc-21 adapter for the ef canon lens?
Yes
What about the 24-105 OIS lense? Does the Dual IS helps even more with the High e-stabiization?
(I am considering buying the 24-105 for the Dual IS and for the extra focal length, compared to sigma 24-70)
I was using the 28-200mm in some of the shots on the longer end which has OIS
Welcome in the lumix era
I like the sound of that
in E-standard you can see the bottom corners of the lens hood or ring. but still good 13:28 but shaky but that high was gimbal like but out of all the test, I'd like high
Does the new high level e stab allow for shooting braw at the same time.
Nice video!, I saw your video running at NAB and I was sheeeesh can't wait to tomorrow to try the firmware and do the same thing. You ran first with the Laowa 10mm zero-D, was wondering how you liked it? Of course it's a niche lens but still, how do you like it? Is it worth the price? or Would you suggest another one (I know it's only manual focus)?
Fun video. I was actually using the 7artisans 9mm in that video. It's an f5.6. the loawa is a f2.8 though
14:08 hope there’s a way to fix the corners flickering between light and dark with the establisation
For the price Panasonic is really great! My first real camera was the GH5, loved it. I eventually went full frame which I am happy with still have soft spot for Panasonic. Thanks for the video Dustin.
🙏
I've barely tested it but I've made a few driving videos and it's absolutely amazing!! So happy :)
10:52 I'm doing this exact thing! I have the 10-18 and the 55-250 and they're actually amazing on this camera
Very welcomed addition!
Excellent video as always.
What is really like to know is can this camera with its new firmware save me money.
What I mean by that is can I pass on a tripod, gimbal, slider, lidar autofocus and still be able to create high quality work? That’s a video that you should make. Please!!!!
🙏. My opinion is no you can't. Those are all tools that can't be replaced. But this can definitely work in a lot of scenarios if you understand its limitations and disadvantages
The 18mm with the high setting is crazy! I’m switching.
Pretty wild! Super nice for run and gun!
Hey Dustin, with all the firmware update, do you think the S5IIX is the new S1H ii, or do you think they will renew the S1H line?
They'll renew it. Trust. Might have to wait a little time still
@@DustinArmstrongPro I'm really hoping for this year, especially with the A7Siv coming out. really want to see if they can make a true video monster with Sony level epic AF for it.
Man, I watch and learn so much of your content its Crazy! thank you!!
Thanks for watching 🙏
can you compare ibis to zve 1 dynamic active?
I can tell you without even testing it won't be close. LUMIX IBIS is better
Do you think the auto focus has improved enough to film fast moving sports? I know its not to the level of Sony or Canon, but do you think it's reliable enough? I'd love to see someone do a video on this but I haven't found anything.
For photography or video? I'd like to do a video on this as well just haven't had the opportunity
@@DustinArmstrongPro ideally video. I think in terms of its photo capabilities the auto focus should perform well, but for video I’m really curious to see if this firmware has improved its detection capabilities for sports videos. I working on dipping my toes in that arena, but the autofocus is a little concerning.
New firmware is 🔥 wish I could do proxies in open gate tho!
I know probably a processing thing
Resolution has some effect in the stabilization? I mean can a video be more stable using 6k instead of 4K?
I think just being at S35 vs full frame has an effect is what I was trying to get across
Great video man! Cheers from Bali
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wow that e-stabalisation is on the S9 I think, worth buying just for that alone
Yep same IBIS on the S9
Just a side note... from an amateur. OK, I get it, Lumix is so much more realistic and accessible financially, and has better ergonomics and IBIS than the competition. I'll stick to Lumix, since the GH2 I like the idea. But just for a principal consideration, is there anything else besides those three factors in S5ii that can compete with Sony and Canon and their AF and IQ? Or that of Nikon Z6iii?
you should do a ibis test with the 24-105 lumix because its also stabilized :)
I was using the 28-200mm after the 24mm test which has OIS as well
I have a problem with my S5iiX. When I connect my monitor (HDMI - Info Display - on) I can have Display info only on 1 display (HDMI monitor or camera display) and not both. Do you have a solution for this?
I didn't think you can do both
@@DustinArmstrongPro that is sad...the S1H didn't had this problem. I hope they address it in an update. BTW love your video ✌😁
Great job on this video. First class.
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Yo what was the sick shirt you were wearing when messing with the robot. I need one!
You can get them at the Lumix base in Tokyo Japan!
@@DustinArmstrongPro darn. They got an online shop?
How do I use s35 lenses on the full frame mount? Is there a certain adapter?
Just needs the same mount. There's L Mount lenses that are S35 (SIRUI night walkers) or use a PL-L mount adapter
Picked up a lumix s5iix from pawn america for $1607 out the door I think i did pretty good
Damn that's a really good find
Love the honest review!
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"Wireless G Spot"
Nice.
It's all about the "Deep Penetrating Networks" and "Unprotected Sect" (my other WIFI bands)
@@DustinArmstrongPro HHahha love it
Like this content better than reviews stuffs
I'm with you there
TL:DR If there isn't a setting to fix jerky pans, the Stabilization feature is super over hyped compared to reality use...
The downside I've been experiencing with the stabilization is when I DO want to pan handheld either up/ down or left/right, diagonal etc. the stabilization wants to lock in place to mimic a tripod but then does a big jerking movement in the direction i'm panning. This is not ideal and unless there is a setting i'm missing, this totally defeats the point of stabilization.
Do you have boost IS on?
I just wish they would enable PDAF in 1080. Some of clients request 1080 when shooting combat sports
PDAF works in 1080p at 24 and 30 fps and in APS-C modes. It's only at 60fps does it switch to contrast
Yes it’s 60fps in 1080 I use
@@DustinArmstrongPro In 1080p at 50 and 60 fps if you are in APSC mode then you have PDAF not contrast. In full frame 1080p 50 or 60fps you have contrast AF.
Seems like I have an echo
@@DustinArmstrongPro the thing is though Dustin, some of us still use 1080 and rely on auto focus. It wasn’t stated at launch that PDAF was not available for this and for people like me, who rushed out and bought it we found out the hard way.
I gotta get this camera
It's pretty sweet in my opinion
for animals, if you select animal eye, it only looks for 1 animal. If you select without the eye, it shows all animals like for people.
Decided to cut this out of the video so it doesn't confuse people
Why not just mount the camera upside down and flip in post?
What?
Oh you mean on the robot arm? We needed 2 points to screw in to the camera not just 1
what about the af in 1080?
No change as before. 1080p 24 and 30 fps is phase detect, 50 and 60fps in 1080 full frame it's contrast detect. APS-C in 1080p is phase detect
@@DustinArmstrongPro ah ok cool thanks
Yeah alright. Subscribed!
Bravo from France
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I wish some if this would come to the S5, like the Animal eye
It won't. The sensor doesn't have phase pixels so it's a hardware limitation
@@DustinArmstrongPro oh good to know. Thx
LUMIX is too good man
So are tacos
IS IT TRUE THAT 60p FULL-FRAME DISABLES PDAF? NO ONE TALKS ABOUT THAT
In 1080p yes PDAF is disabled I believe still. 4k60 S35 it's not though
@@DustinArmstrongPro yeah but that is unfortunate lots of people recording 50/60p for that occasional 2x slowmo in post, optical flow is heavy on hardware
Map Camera ( Japan's largest camera shop ) recently shared the list of the most sold 20 cameras during their fiscal year 2023 (April 1 2023 to March 31 2024):
Nikon Z8
Nikon Z f
Sony α7C II
Canon EOS R6 Mark II
Sony α7RV
Sony α7IV
Fujifilm X-T5
Ricoh GR IIIx
Sony α6700
Canon EOS R8
OM system OM-1
Fujifilm X-H2
Fujifilm X-T30 II
Ricoh GR III
Nikon Z fc
Fujifilm X-S10
Sony ZV-E10
Leica Q3
Canon EOS R10
Sony ZV-E1 - looks like no one is switching
Japan is 1 market. From January 1 2023 to December 2023, the LUMIX S5II was actually number 9 at the time
perfect. Proud owner of Lumix S5ii. The best. For those who know what they re buying. So sorry for all those toxic brain washed haters out there...
I mean I don't get many toxic people. Sometimes but I'm usually the one making them question how loyal they are to their brand😂
Was looking at switching from my Fuji xh2s to the s5ll mainly because Fuji firmware seems to be screwing things up with each iteration, lumix looks pretty good but these updates look ok but AF still looks and issue and eye/face more so, improved for sure but a long way to go. So much to like from lumix though I’m sorely tempted, man in bonus would be to do away with the Fuji fanboy tantrums all over the internet 😂 time for a grown up camera LOL
I waaaaaasss into a7m4, a7c2, then i found this ❤❤ yosss
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Watching this video made me realize how far lumix af is from sony Af 😅😅😅 we are at a point with the a9iii where it can focus a flying bird at 120 fps while lumix is still trying to focus 24 fps 😢n no tracking in 2024 😢
Yeah and that took years for Sony to figure or. LUMIX has only had good AF for a year chill
@@DustinArmstrongPro no excuse for Panasonic, they deliberately chosed not to go pdaf and as an ex pana user, they were easily 4-5 years ahead of everyone in the mirrorless/ hybrid space. Cameras are just tools and I don't support people hyping outdated gear to newcomers...so chill. If tmrw Panasonic is ahead again in both body and optics, I will surely switch as long as it's making my job easier ;)
Maybe in AF they're a bit behind but specs and features this camera still has things and has got new things added that many other cameras don't have that are newer. Depends on what you need no camera will fulfill every job 100%
@@DustinArmstrongPro for filming weddings, will s5iix better than fx30?
@@houghmadefood Yes I think so, but the FX30 still a decent camera
I was about to change to LUMIX from canon, but that 24-105 2.8 PZ is a game changer for documentary videos, so NO!!!
I mean that's fine. Choose the tool that's best for what you do most not because it's the cool thing to do or your favorite content creator or something uses a certain camera/brand
Why not use and adapter from ef to L mount? Like the sigma Mc21?
@@DustinArmstrongPro overall LUMIX beat all the brands, I love the features but for now canon is the best for what I need
Apsc crop it’s not S35!
Look in the camera menu in image area and it'll say APS-C and then in parentheses (S35)
@@DustinArmstrongPro Yes, but the APCS size is not the same as the S35 size. They're two different things
af now works better , but still not as good as Canon/Sony, still no good tap follow focus function.
Depends how you're using it. I came from Sony and the way I use AF I don't miss my Sonys
@@DustinArmstrongPro yep, that's true . I have Sony , it used to be my main cam , but after buying Lumix I can't use Sony anymore .
The auto focus is bad dam was hoping lumix would have improved this.
This unfortunately is nowhere near as good as canon or Sonys autofocus.
Hoping lumix continues to attempt to improve this.
It's actually pretty damn close to Sony and I would definitely put it up there with Canon. I shoot all the time with the AF and it's pretty flawless
@@DustinArmstrongPro see this is the confusing part, in your video it looked bad and definitely would not hang with my canons not even the r5c, but then I see videos both pro and anti auto focus.
I’m a canon shooter and also a lumix guy.
I sold my lumix cameras because I really want the s5iix but this whole auto focus thing has me concerned.
My r3 would run circles around what you just showed and my r5 and r5c would both beat it easily.
So what did I miss? Did they do another firmware update since this video?
Again I really wanna buy this camera I have the money ready to spend and I am a big lumix fan.
I just can’t seem to get a straight answer from watching videos if the auto focus is good or bad as I have seen both.
We both know that though Sony gets the credit for putting features in their cameras it’s in fact lumix that leads that catagory by a large margin.
Anyways I really hope it is improved as I have had my eye on this camera since it was announced.
@wadesweeney2200 in this video it's showing the weaknesses of the autofocus. I have plenty of videos though since the S5II came out showing how good it is. One even on the S5IIX
I think Jeoff should switch to Lumix
But only if he can get one with a sun dragon at full price because value
Did he switch?
Update video soon
S5ii is worthless without 4k60 full frame no crop regardless of how good the IBIS is. I sold mine after this firmware update because it wasn't included.
Another one from Japan
And I'd still be making the same videos regardless of any of that cause I did it for years before LUMIX did anything for me
not as good as I wish it could be. High E Stabilisation provokes ghosting and gives blurry 4k . Only good for vlogging and home videos , not for serious work
Depends what your definition of serious work is. But still it won't replace a gimbal that's for sure