The Irish Hate Speech bill is back - here’s what that means
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 20 ส.ค. 2024
- According to newly-elected Green Party leader Roderic O’Gorman, Ireland’s hate speech bill should be passed within a matter of months.
Ben Scallan says the Bill is still “an absolute disaster.”
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It amazes me how desperate these people are to handle this utterly toxic bill.
This needs to be completely opposed outright
GRIPT is the only True media platform in Ireland . God Bless and protect you all.
REFERENDUM IS NEEDED IN THIS BILL AND THE EU IMMIGRATION PACT.
Yes as it should be repugnant to the Constitution under article 40.6
neither involve the constitution. They are executive bills. Once passed, however, it will be extremely difficult to backpeddle.
There's no such thing as hate speech there's just speech
Wait until the government change it😢
The criminal law is perfectly adequate. But unfortunately it does not suppress free speech or political dissent.
Communists thought this stuff up a long time ago. It's not new at all.
Between being called racist and now we hate everything our government want to force bring in new laws to keep us under their control this is not democracy 😢😢
The worst thing about this bill is that it doesn't matter what your intent is, it's what someone else interprets it to be and the complaint can come from anyone, even if not involved in the conversation directly.
You won't be able to ask O Gorman about the 28 missing children anymore, will be hate speech. His get out if jail free card He's pathetic. I'd dare ya to put it to a referendum O Gorman you'd lose big time.
Brilliant, thank you
Seriously, how did that creep get elected 😮😮😮
Such a hateful comment. How dare you ask the childless homosexual to account for missing children.
He is not childless, they are just not his children. Rumor has it.
@@NoRats Thanks, there is always an agenda with these creeps, they really do need to be stopped.
Anyone can be arrested at any time for a "perceived" offence.
Correct. But they are only interested in prominent leaders.
@@tadhgcronin175 with respect this applies to every Irish citizen.
You are correct but after arresting you, the state is then required to produce evidence to prove that you are guilty. And if they cannot then you have to be released.
The difference with the hate speech bill is that the onus can be placed upon you to prove that you are innocent. E.g. someone sends you a meme that is deemed to be hateful. You might have done nothing with it, looked at it once and forgotten about it but should you be arrested for being in possession of 'hate material' you must now prove that you did not intend to disseminate the image any further.
That and the fact that they decided not to actually define what hate speech actually is.
@@user-iw6xo7xc1e "two to put her down, two to put her out" and a suspended sentence. Was that hate speech? They are not interested in small fry.
"perceived intent" ; you don't even need to do or say anything, just own a DVD that says bold words. Absurd.
How does Ireland tolerate this stuff
Because we are weak, not like our forefathers
We were subjects to British rule for too long. We are used to doing as we are told as a result
To be honest , it''s a real mystery to me as well but they won't stick together to do anything about it .
@@davidking7298 Have YOU Checked Your Calendar 📆 Lately??? It's over a HUNDRED YEARS SINCE- WHAT THOSE SCABS ARE DOING NOW, HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH BRITAIN. BUILD A BRIDGE, AND GET OVER IT FFS!
What can we do in fairness. ? We have no voice, they ignore us, can email, text never reply, they bring in these laws and nothing we can do @@OurCousinVinny
Hate speech just means silence for the Irish people.
100% fact
There won't even be an Irish people in 20 years.
So you can't deport illegal immigrants because its against the law of EU human rights. You can't talk about it either because it's hate speech and is against the law 🤨
and for the concerned european white migrants.
Silence me arse, if speech is shut down the public's response will get exponentially louder
The whole country hates ogorman and mcentee
PRESIDENT HIGGINS CAN REFUSE TO SIGN THE BILL..he is meant to represent the PEOPLE!!
read below:
POWERS of PRESIDENT HIGGINS 🇮🇪 to STOP something of GREAT IMPORTANCE that is AGAINST the WILL of the Irish PEOPLE, but it has NEVER been exercised by any Irish PRESIDENT BEFORE.
The PRESIDENT of IRELAND 🇮🇪 has the AUTHORITY NOT to SIGN a NEW BILL into LAW.
The PRESIDENT has 2 FURTHER POWERS in RELATION to LEGISLATION, which have NEVER been EXERCISED to DATE:
PROPOSALS of NATIONAL IMPORTANCE:
ARTICLE 27
of the CONSTITUTION, the PRESIDENT MAY REFUSE to SIGN a BILL IF a MAJORITY of the MEMBERS ofSEANAD and at LEAST ONE-THIRD of
the MEMBERS of the DÁIL PETITION the PRESIDENT NOT to SIGN IT, on the GROUNDS that the BILL CONTAINS a PROPOSAL of such NATIONAL IMPORTANCE, that the WILL of the PEOPLE SHOULD be FOUND OUT. 🤔 👍
The President MUST CONSULT with the COUNCIL of STATE BEFORE DECIDING whether or NOT to SIGN the BILL.
In this situation,
IF the PRESIDENT
DECIDES NOT to SIGN the BILL,
an ORDINARY REFERENDUM is HELD.
To date, NO ORDINARY REFERENDUM has taken place.
It's NOW TIME, for the IRISH PEOPLE to DEMAND that PRESIDENTHIGGINS repres ents the PEOPLE of IRELAND 🇮🇪 and REFUSE to SIGN the EU IMMIGRATION PACT, and any new HATE SPEECH LAW Into law / LEGALISATION,
until he EXERCISES his position as President of Ireland & representative of the people, in this matter of GREAT IMPORTANCE;
to 'FIND OUT the WILL of the PEOPLE'
of Ireland, by way of a REFERENDUM for the people of IRELAND to DECIDE on the EU IMMIGRATION PACT & on any new HATE SPEECH bill.
The people of Ireland need to request & demand this from President Higgins in this matter of GREAT IMPORTANCE to the Irish people.
🇮🇪 ☘️
He's a dribble and she is incompetent.
@@damienhunt4264amazing how these people got into government.
@TheNorman1169 not amazing but Criminal
@@damienhunt4264MC entee is one of the most dangerous Irish politicians there is right now.
NO NO NO
Considering how he lied so badly to the public about the referendum, how o gormon or any other politician for that matter thinks anyone could trust him ever again is actually amazing. Get o gormon out!
Encouraging Censorship , instead of out there combatting Hate. Thank you Ben. 🙏🇮🇪🙏
I hate working and I hate paying tax … is that now going to be a crime ..
RTE wonders why we dont trust them anymore yet cant do real journalism like this
At least we know how RTE is funded ,unlike Gript media
@@michaelogrady1002 well i mean, fair enough
@@michaelogrady1002Gript is funded by the public. Also what do you mean at least we know. What you mean to say is RTE are State propaganda right?
@@Klaus-777 Gript states that its funding is from Subscriptions only.Could you tell me how many subscribers Gript media has and what is the income it receives from those Subscriptions. What I mean is that we know RTE is funded by a combination Licence and advertising. With regard to State propaganda RTE is subject to regulation overseen by the Broadcasting Authority of Ireland. We haven't a clue as to how Gript Media obtained its original start up funding or who the investors were and the amount it receives from its Subscriptions and if this its only source of funding.
@@michaelogrady1002 Any funding they have is legitimate otherwise they would not be allowed to operate. You really think the State has not tried that angle to take them down?
I’m not censoring myself for NOBODY !
I bet you censor yourself around your mammy
I aint backing down with the truth.
The guards could be at your door.
@@reigninblood123 do you think i give a hoot.
@@reigninblood123gestapo you mean
I hate this government.......not a joke either .......
Honestly can't look at or listen to that O'Gorman thing.
Makes me feel physically sick.
He is a truly unwholesome creature.
Now,now that's hate 😮
@@liamcronin5959 My gut don't lie when a person talks SHITE
@@liamcronin5959 No hate.. only contempt..
Speech they hate.
Bingo pal, folks are waking up to the fact it's about protecting corporate interests.
Anything can be hate speech can't win 🤷♀️
Please don't give up.
They won't make public transport safe because they're to busy chasing people online who hurt their feelings
Absolutely true God they are idiots.
It's a dangerous future ahead by the look of it.
The backlash will be massive, it already is, sure it failed because the upper house flat out said no.
Willy O Dea runs with the fox and the hounds.. he knows exactly what he's doing!!
People ask what is this hate speech all about?? Simple, its their way to try to shut us up. Never. What happened to freedom of speech?😢😢
Freedom of speech only exists in the United States of America because of the first amendment and a 300 years of case law. The European Union hates free speech.
It's censorship, plain and simple.
"I'm gay, you can't criticise me or I'll have you arrested for hate speech" Roderic O'Gorman
__________" These Native Irish out protesting Immigration Have NO RIGHT to Determine What or How Many Migrants We can put in their Neighborhoods as they will soon learn !"----------Nick Henderson CEO of Irish Refugee Council 2023
He's another one with a computer full of .pdf files.
🙏🏻🇮🇪🙏🏻
Henderson is the one pulling a lot of government strings whilst they pay him to do it.
And afaik he is English?
@@annedonnellan6876 what
Please someone return the sanity. The whole world has gone mad. I am officially in the twilight zone.
Watch out for a distraction in the coming weeks in politics and that'll be when this is sneaked through. How do we stop it?
Be very alert.
@@HOLLYHOCKFLOWERS true. But even if we see it coming how do we stop it. Its not like there'll be a referendum. It just happened 3 weeks ago when the govt agreed on the immigration policy with Europe without a much as a whisper of dissent from any quarter.
Personally I don't think we can. They will rush this through just like the Migration Pact
Completely useless legislation
It's very useful for alphabet people. They can insist night is day.
That works both ways I’m Irish white,and a hard working man who was the youngest of seven children and was last to get into the bath on a Sunday night before school,both my father and mother worked and still we all got the hand me downs,but the government will tell me i had white privilege so in my eyes that’s hate speech
Yes I had the same type of upbringing. It irritates me so much when these buzz words are thrown around the place these days.😮
Last person in Luke warm water ,jasus how did we survive ,but survive we did ,must've been great for the immune system, stay well
Yep same. The white privilege in finglas was every where when I was growing up.
Yes in the village in finglas they were giving it away I'm told ,packets of white privilege, just like Dorset street
Scraping the mould off the bread on a cold winters morning, see your breath in the kitchen...80s were character building for sure. Haughey telling us to tighten our belts.
White privilege my ar$e
Didn't the upper house annihilate it? It got support in the established parties, yet it was annihilated in the senate
There is no upper house.
@@tadhgcronin175 there is, it's the senate. Google it. Seanad Eireann Upper house of the Oireachtas
😂😂😂 thé Senate threw it back to the chimps in the dail …. and now, we’ll see ?
@@tadhgcronin175upper house = Seanad
They hate the public
I knew the passing of the EU migration pact would bring the hate speech bill back😂
I personally do not want or need a hate speech bill. This government has to go.
6:24 will migrants be prosecuted under this hate speech bill if they use hate speech against native Irish people in Ireland or online? I think not
Correct. I'm studying the Quoran at the moment because I suspect I might have more in common with Islam than the alphabet people.
@@tadhgcronin175
Study Political Islam and get a clue of what an Unbeliever is actually viewed as by "the religion of peace"!
No this bill is for them. This isn't for the Irish.🤔
@@tadhgcronin175That’s a very dangerous route to go down. Islam portrays Muhammad as infallible, the perfect role model. The man stoned a new mother to death, married a 6 year old girl when he was 51 and consummated the marriage when she reached 9 years of age. He owned and traded slaves. He had between 9 and 11 wives. Islam teaches to fight against and subjugate all nonbelievers and states that disbelievers will serve as fuel for the hellfire and will constantly have their skin burned off and replaced, before being burned off again. Forever. Simply for not submitting totally to Islamic doctrine. Read the quran in chronological order and the Sahih al-Bukhari hadiths.
Of course not, don't be silly
I wonder does he realise how much he’s hated in Ireland
Does he care?
He's an A HOLE
He's an A HOLE
The people are to blame for losing their own Freedom of Speech. They keep voting FF and FG. You get what you vote for 🤷♂️
These people who continually vote for these parties are only depending on MSM for the news but not the real independent media like gript and only looking after themselves they do not want or care about the country our futures and our young people futures
You are not allowed to have an opinion bill...that is it...
Stop voting for mediocre politicians who despise you.
Why are we following the rules when it's clear they aren´t?
Exactly.
Any chance of President Higgins referring the legislation to the Supreme Court, if the legislators admit to not having considered the legislation they are passing ? Government wants to criminalize the expression of opinions that anyone regards as offensive. This is not the same thing by a country mile as incitement to hatred, which is already an indictable crime.
Guessing that'd be highly unlikely.
Fair play to Willie O'Dea for owning up thaf the bill was rushed thru and they hadnt time to even read the bill.
There is NO DEMOCRACY if this bill has passed.
Rushed through like the bailout which was voted on in the middle of the night. O dea, disgrace to vote without reading the bill.
The law makers should not be the law breakers.
We ALL know the " fix " for this!!!
I definitely would get my toolbox and fix things. We need to before it's too late
DO THE PUBLIC HAVE A SAY IN THIS .
Infrastructure can't cope with it, it's pathetic running of the country. Suspended sentence's, no prison space. Such a mess.
Thank you Ben. Im depressed.....😢
Who are these people ACTUALLY working for?
Agenda! Agenda! Agenda! follow through for your WEF Bosses!
I Hate it!! 😢
What about comedy...no place in society any more...no more craic? 😢
@@hellowhocares Hardly even a venue!! All the woke are abjectly miserable and the epitome of killjoys 😢😢.
They are clearly being instructed to apply this Act, much in the same way the Family Bill had a completely different set of objectives buried within, to achieve it's real planned goal.👍
It's so sad to see all these soft woke politicians. It makes me sick listening to their bullshit.
“Restrict those freedoms for the common good” wow this Government need to go..
Ireland voted for for these people and I can assure you they will surely vote for them again. It seems voters have no sense at all.
True but no one else getting to organise a new party. Too many independents with similar views.
PRESIDENT HIGGINS CAN REFUSE TO SIGN THE BILL..he is meant to represent the PEOPLE!!
read below:
POWERS of PRESIDENT HIGGINS 🇮🇪 to STOP something of GREAT IMPORTANCE that is AGAINST the WILL of the Irish PEOPLE, but it has NEVER been exercised by any Irish PRESIDENT BEFORE.
The PRESIDENT of IRELAND 🇮🇪 has the AUTHORITY NOT to SIGN a NEW BILL into LAW.
The PRESIDENT has 2 FURTHER POWERS in RELATION to LEGISLATION, which have NEVER been EXERCISED to DATE:
PROPOSALS of NATIONAL IMPORTANCE:
ARTICLE 27
of the CONSTITUTION, the PRESIDENT MAY REFUSE to SIGN a BILL IF a MAJORITY of the MEMBERS ofSEANAD and at LEAST ONE-THIRD of
the MEMBERS of the DÁIL PETITION the PRESIDENT NOT to SIGN IT, on the GROUNDS that the BILL CONTAINS a PROPOSAL of such NATIONAL IMPORTANCE, that the WILL of the PEOPLE SHOULD be FOUND OUT. 🤔 👍
The President MUST CONSULT with the COUNCIL of STATE BEFORE DECIDING whether or NOT to SIGN the BILL.
In this situation,
IF the PRESIDENT
DECIDES NOT to SIGN the BILL,
an ORDINARY REFERENDUM is HELD.
To date, NO ORDINARY REFERENDUM has taken place.
It's NOW TIME, for the IRISH PEOPLE to DEMAND that PRESIDENTHIGGINS repres ents the PEOPLE of IRELAND 🇮🇪 and REFUSE to SIGN the EU IMMIGRATION PACT, and any new HATE SPEECH LAW Into law / LEGALISATION,
until he EXERCISES his position as President of Ireland & representative of the people, in this matter of GREAT IMPORTANCE;
to 'FIND OUT the WILL of the PEOPLE'
of Ireland, by way of a REFERENDUM for the people of IRELAND to DECIDE on the EU IMMIGRATION PACT & on any new HATE SPEECH bill.
The people of Ireland need to request & demand this from President Higgins in this matter of GREAT IMPORTANCE to the Irish people.
🇮🇪 ☘️
@@manc66If we had a nationalist party, most would vote for that. I find it ironic how nationalism is viewed as evil cause if you talk to the average irish person most have nationalist beliefs.
@@manc66the independents need to stand together
@@jamiemohan2049I think that's what their afraid of
This sort of law is no law at all.
It means the government can shut up people they don’t like.
WAKE UP IRELAND. Stop voting for FF, FG and SF and Labour, Green and the rest.
Absolutely!
Please vote him out 🤣
Cheers Ben and the Gript crew. God bless
They have no idea what hate is, time will tell
The common good in Ireland, famed for its literary Nobel Laureates and banter, surely implies freedom of sprech is a prerequisite to preserving our heritage?
This is such an old fashioned way of thinking.
It’s about control.
@@carmellarkin4803💯 About control, nothing else
Their speech is hateful towards us, so will they be held accountable for their anti Christian anti traditional family rhetoric..
If far right is seen as a danger then the extreme opposite far left must be equally offensive..
You cant have a one sided argument constantly blaming one viewpoint, because that is a reaction to the opposite viewpoint, therefore logically both are equally provocative. Especially when a certain young woman us being promoted by the media as a hero representing the left viewpoint, if she was a traditional minded woman ahe wouldn't get airtime or public adulation from the rainbow clad people.
The ministers?? The mid level senior civil servants in Social Protection, Justice , Health, don't even know what goes on at ground level
Well done Ben, EVERY ONE IGNORE THE HATE BILL, can't put us all in prison!!
I really hate his speech
Don't care theyll never shut me up
Nice one Ben :)
Irish people do not want this bill passed. NcEntee, O'Gorman Michael Martin and the rest need to go.
Don't pass hate speech bills, nonsense idea
Roderic the Rodent need's to go.
Reckless behaviour is subjective. And can be open to all manner of interpretation. These politicians are guilty of their own bill for their reckless behaviour in governing the country atm if you ask me.
So true
Because he's one of the most, if not the most hated person in eire, simple simon and Helen mc enteehotly contested this position
Government, if you dont wsant to hear what people say about you, dont read it!
How is this guy still around? His deceit in the massively unpopular referendum which he championed alone should have ended his political career, and yet he's promoted and now pushing more legislation which the people don't want? How is this possible?
The problem now is that people know what this is and the political climate has changed from 2022. I'd be surprised if they managed to get it through in its current state.
Ahhh sheet here we go again!!!
Never ending ...
Referendum needs to be had....
Roddy loves his hate.
Im sure good brains like Úna and Tracey will be on to this.
I was present in a Garda station when Helen McEntee visited. I'm not a member of the Garda but I was there because of my job. She had been to at least two other stations that day and she spent about an hour there. Local senior officers spoke to her about issues they had a problem with and how young people get involved in crime, in their experience. The Minister didn't speak once, took no notes and didn't record anything. Perhaps, a transcript was sent to her later, I don't know but to me, she looked to be going through the motions but not very interested.
He's so far left it's not funny
FWEE WODERWIC!!
Thanks!
Alice in wonderland stuff,with a pinch of Kafka's 'the trial'.
Marches? Demonstrations? Petitions even?
Free Speech Ireland has 20,000 signatures
@annedonnellan6876 great, I will let my circle know
Good video
They wont ask the public this time
Censorship, breach of civil rights
It means people will be criminalized for disagreeing with the Government 😂🤦
"Restricting freedoms for the common good" to protect minorities.
Anyone see the Irony here?
I would have thought the "common good" applied to the majority.
O gorman is too immature for his position. Doesn't know what responsibility is because his ego won't let him admit his mistakes.
Terrible minister for child protection, tusla never held accountable for abhorrent mismanagement of vulnerable children in state care
Freedom of speech is a human right the reason these people are bringing this in. Is to protect themselves from people saying what these people have done. Is the new as we say prime minister of Ireland a Jew is he a married person
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Should be put to Referendum
They were always going to run with that.. no surprise there..
They,ll never shut the public up, they pay the bills.
WHY ISNT THAT HATE SPEACH BILL PUT TWO THE PEOPLE,
Great work Ben
Great work as always, Ben!
Top class journalism as always. Much appreciated
It wont happen...
What is the problem with this O' Gorman, we don't need this bill