@Joel_YTHQ2 because someone made it. I know why lots of people hate it, and I understand why. Just don’t make fun of someone because of their interests. A lot of cringe 8 year olds made gacha bad and cringe. I understand completely why you dislike it, but just because a majority of the people who use it are toxic, doesn’t mean everyone who uses it is. I’m not trying to start crap, I’m only saying.
If anyone is confused I’ll tell you. You need to escape the map with the most points. Using an item will give you 1 point. Escaping gives you five points. I got this on 5th try which is kinda better compared to other people.
*Devoun always make my day happy btw i think that's the new bots that are coming in piggy book 2 chapter 5 When minitoon said it on twitter it will have a different bots but i came up with an idea it will the bot oofs/kills you but they are like the Piggies in rb battles.. I think it would be like this..*
I wish you could get a skin of the hosts from the badge. extra bonus: If they do that, them all of them spawning and you choose who to be, that would be cool if they stun you like in the event!
Me and Devoun Said the same thing to Russo Piggy I WILL SUE YOU Russo Piggy : Bonk Devoun : RUSSO I WILL SUE YOU Sabrina Piggy : Bonk Devoun : Noooooo Sabrina this is not like you DJ Piggy : Bonk Devoun : Oh c'mon DJ is it because I dissed RoBeats Me : I have found my twin in Piggy law
I want a, “BONK!” UGC hat ngl Can we make that a thing I don’t want anybody getting sued so maybe a dev of Piggy could make it Someone put a petition And I found the glitch area last night So I was in the street and I saw 2 people being chased by the green hair piggy from afar like they turned from the corner so I freaked out and ran into there
Wanna here a SPOOKY SCARY twist for Piggy? So we go back to the safe place but then we get sick and somehow break out of the safe place because we got infected. Then we go to the place from the Piggy Book 2 Trailer and Pony comes to rescue us. We have to place as Pony and find ourselves. Zizzy is with "us" too.
Devoun: *Boi I Will Sue You I Payed The Money From The Dance Dance Revolution Machine.* Me: *Hears I WILL SUE YOU RUSSO I PAYED HERE* Me: *Laughs* 1:40
Lol Devoun your so funny I love watching your piggy news videos! Last time on one of your piggy news videos I said it would be better if you premiered the piggy news videos so it’s kind of live. And you hearted my comment but I accidentally edited my comment so my heart went away. :( so it would make my day if you hearted this comment!
Devoun:plays rb battles piggy Me:i want mrmunchlyumyum Devoun:goes on his devoun twitch account Me:my dissapointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined Btw devoun your face is beautiful
Me when the rb battles even in piggy came ou: *THERES TO MUCH PEOPLE* Me when it closes and reopened but still had a bug: *I finished in in a private server*
I just beat it and I was surrounded by idiots who would hold the yellow key and then go afk and people who would wait until people would leave to do it and it would take forever
![Piggy Hard Mode is TERRIFYING... [The Secret]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/DrDDtae2K_M/mqdefault.jpg)
![Piggy Hard Mode is TERRIFYING... [The Secret]](/img/tr.png)
I just love the way Devoun talks, it’s hilarious. The voices he makes are so amazing.
@Joel_YTHQ2 idk
@Joel_YTHQ2 because someone made it. I know why lots of people hate it, and I understand why. Just don’t make fun of someone because of their interests. A lot of cringe 8 year olds made gacha bad and cringe. I understand completely why you dislike it, but just because a majority of the people who use it are toxic, doesn’t mean everyone who uses it is. I’m not trying to start crap, I’m only saying.
@Joel_YTHQ2 what does their comment have to do with Gacha? Gacha is a good game but most of the community isn’t.
@@GDRose3 it his opinion
Ikrrrrr
“Maybe I should comeback later”
*credits roll*
I’m watching this on my stairs
LOL
Map designer:Minitoon
Story writer:Minitoon
Piggy designer:Minitoon
Cutscene creator:Minitoon
@@thepogdragon7187 Map designer 2: Ikea Store
@@freddyfrostpag nice
" *BOI, I WILL SUE YOU.* "
-devoun in 2020 (possibly bankrupt)
And thats how u become karen in 5 seconds
This should get pinned
Devoun in the thumbnail:
*Why are we still here...*
*JUST TO S U F F E R...*
Am I the only one who loves Devouns face?
Aww this made my day. Thanks Fannixi
No problem 👁️👄👁️👌
(i feel kringe)
devoun le handsome man
Not really
I like Devon bc of his personality
But I erus dead
devoun; “IS THAT A DJ MONOPOLY PIGGY????”
No it's Russo and it's not dj monopoly
noobs
@@carlmarcus6850 green hair is DJ
@@manuelrobledo9727 yes
@@archiekwok915 Yes, also its DJ Monopoli, but thats just the details since im a nerd for rb battles lol :P
1:09 "iS thAt sAbrINa?? iS thAt rUssO?!" XDDD
XD
I love your vids!!!
Yes same
4:43
Yeah first I learned in preschool was trying not get wacked by youtuberified pig
SAME FOR ME
I actually found this straight away when the red door was open and tried to find anything ( I am sorry if rude)
Some
same
What? That doesn’t make sense.
@@svetlanakostioutchek8004 he meant that he unlocked the red key door and randomly touched one of the buildings and he found it
same
Devoun be like : *time to speedrun.*
hey *munchly much yum* wanna see me speedrun?
We all speedran to this video
Minitoon servers that could 60 players: “Try it.”
@@AsrielTheInkling ✨No✨
What up My dudes
1:57 I can see that Devoun is getting tired of getting bonked on the head by the piggy hosts XDD
Surely he his
If anyone is confused I’ll tell you.
You need to escape the map with the most points. Using an item will give you 1 point. Escaping gives you five points. I got this on 5th try which is kinda better compared to other people.
E
Baby Alexander: BAPA ALICANTA PAG
Choley pig: KLUEY PAG
Uncle pig: ANCLN PAG
Auntie pig: ONDIO PAG
*1 minute ago*
Everyone: GOTTA GO FAST
*Devoun always make my day happy btw i think that's the new bots that are coming in piggy book 2 chapter 5
When minitoon said it on twitter it will have a different bots but i came up with an idea it will the bot oofs/kills you but they are like the Piggies in rb battles.. I think it would be like this..*
Devoun: I will sue you! Everybody else: Your a student. You can't sue him
“This place is almost as magical as Disney land.”
-Devoun
Yep
I’m gonna commit more replies
yes
Yes
Yes
teacher:why are you laughing
me:nothing
my brain:DJ Monopoly
I wish you could get a skin of the hosts from the badge.
extra bonus: If they do that, them all of them spawning and you choose who to be, that would be cool if they stun you like in the event!
Devoun, Your a Legend
Yes
Real words
facts
spitting fax tho
But it's true..
@@fannixiimoved1430 trueeeeeeeeeeee=D
Me and Devoun Said the same thing to Russo Piggy I WILL SUE YOU
Russo Piggy : Bonk
Devoun : RUSSO I WILL SUE YOU
Sabrina Piggy : Bonk
Devoun : Noooooo Sabrina this is not like you
DJ Piggy : Bonk
Devoun : Oh c'mon DJ is it because I dissed RoBeats
Me : I have found my twin in Piggy law
Congrats on finding your twin bro
Devoun: *Tries to communicate with girl*
Girl: *Wondering why he wants to Invade cuba with his Mango Army*
I saw ToxicJim's video and saw this area and I was so confused, so thanks for explaining it.
great content devoun, keep up the good work :D
“ I WILL SUE YOU! I PAID MONEYS TO BE HERE!!”-Devoun 2020 lol
Russo not even a minute later: :(
Devoun: Is that a da monopoly pigg- *gets bonked*
Also Devoun: I am immeasurable and my day is ruined.
Love how devoun all ways makes everything funny!
2020 minitoon: eh. Noobs are noobs.
2021 minitoon: RANKED MODE
Devoun: in gonna meet my favourite TH-camrs kreekcraft, Russo and the hosts
Also him: I honestly don't care
Devoun: I WILL SUE YOU RUSSO
Russo: *avoids him*
piggy: exist
minitoon: hippity hoppity on every event one place is my property
thats true
Wha
@@keeleyrasche4039 i meant that piggy is in player two and rb battle event
Kid: Mom look it's Russo can I buy him?
Mom: no son we have Russo at home
Russo at home: 1:40
*Y E S*
@@ARedbirbxd
My favorite part is when devoun jams out to music we cannot hear
is Devoun the new sketch because...
*comedy?*
I want a, “BONK!” UGC hat ngl
Can we make that a thing
I don’t want anybody getting sued so maybe a dev of Piggy could make it
Someone put a petition
And I found the glitch area last night
So I was in the street and I saw 2 people being chased by the green hair piggy from afar like they turned from the corner so I freaked out and ran into there
1:59 i don’t think that’s called camping-
*that’s something else*
Devoun should make a mad city video. Cause when I saw mad city in your adopt me vid my heartbeat went up to 145 mph.
Wanna here a SPOOKY SCARY twist for Piggy?
So we go back to the safe place but then we get sick and somehow break out of the safe place because we got infected. Then we go to the place from the Piggy Book 2 Trailer and Pony comes to rescue us. We have to place as Pony and find ourselves. Zizzy is with "us" too.
“What emoji would be a swear?”
does this answer you’re question? 🤬🤬🤬
Your* 😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐
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It’s 🤬, 🖕,
Can You KidNap Me Devoun? That’s How Much I Love Your Vids!
Tbh i think it would be cool if da hosts had their swords with them XD but probs not be fair for da players
Devon: I don't think anybody found this yet
Me:dude I found this a billion years ago
4:56
Minitoon:umm..... Patch it👁👄👁👍
Devoun: I Found this cool secret!
Me: 👁👄👁
7:56 *random kid laughing* devoun: *kicks*
Devoun:Chill DJ
Me:He's a Savage lol
Me: *sees video*
Me again: *goes straight to piggy*
Piggy: *doesn’t let me join*
Me: NANI
Devoun poosts. me: I AM SPEED
Almost 160k, congrats!
Me: *sees the thumbnail*
Me: I also found it, guess what i found nothing except buildings.
Devoun be like: _"Hippity Hoppity your coin is now my property"_
2:52 I love when he does this
Your holiday vids were so nostalgic
Kid;can we have piggy rb battles event
Mom: we have piggy rb battles event
Piggy rb battles event: the end of the video
When are the members happening!? If I can have members for my channel, so can you 😂
Maybe he doesnt want members
Yeah he said he aint doin it cuz there would be to much work
hey devoun, i think you should made a vid on rb battles winner's wing glitch. some of people got it early without even getting the 12 badges.
Petition to make Devoun a host for RBbattles 2021.
It happened lol
You are a champion....champion of piggy memes
PIGGY MEMES
Yes
Devoun, your voice and face is iconic am I the only one who thinks that like if I see that face and or hear the voice I'm would think "That's Devoun"
That Devoun avatar will never get old UwU
the piggy badge 4 rb battles was a mess when it first released.
Devoun: *Boi I Will Sue You I Payed The Money From The Dance Dance Revolution Machine.*
Me: *Hears I WILL SUE YOU RUSSO I PAYED HERE*
Me: *Laughs*
1:40
Me:"misses the video by 12 hours" DID I TURN ON NOTIFICATIONS?
The numbers on top of you are points, if you open a room or do other things you get points.
Lol Devoun your so funny I love watching your piggy news videos! Last time on one of your piggy news videos I said it would be better if you premiered the piggy news videos so it’s kind of live. And you hearted my comment but I accidentally edited my comment so my heart went away. :( so it would make my day if you hearted this comment!
"i bet no one else has found this"
but i did, give me the money
Devon runs from The RB Battles hosts then gets a badge then goes to a Piggy Rp game then questions life
The video
“I’m gonna see my favorite TH-camrs like Kreekcraft and DenisDaily and DEVOUN”
I need a piggy character but I can't show you it because I'm too young to have Discord
I mean made not need
devoun can insult people without sounding mean and its amazing
the whole comment section be complimenting Devoun
Devoun I have a question for you....
Do you think that all of the games have there own hosts of the 3 or do you think it’s only for piggy?
Devoun:Rb battles
Captions: *Rp battles* take it or just turn off captions
Sabrine, pirate of the talk show. Has an obsession to bonk devoun
Devoun:plays rb battles piggy
Me:i want mrmunchlyumyum
Devoun:goes on his devoun twitch account
Me:my dissapointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined
Btw devoun your face is beautiful
I am finally early to a Devoun vid
😭🥳🥳
Am a huge fan
Ok but nobodys gonna talk about the cat on his shirt-
Looks cool actually!
Me: Put the white key into the white door
Noob: Okie but give me robux now
devoun said in one of his videos "kreek craft, dont you dare make better piggy ideas..." devoun just thinks he's a master of piggy.
I actually found that earlier- but great video!!
Me when the rb battles even in piggy came ou: *THERES TO MUCH PEOPLE*
Me when it closes and reopened but still had a bug: *I finished in in a private server*
Legend says that nufegun4983 is still looking at the light
I just beat it and I was surrounded by idiots who would hold the yellow key and then go afk and people who would wait until people would leave to do it and it would take forever
I was just watching your other videos lol
those numbers I love your head mean how many times you’ve gotten Bunk’d with the piggies
Devoun, being cool as usual.
Idk why but i played the RB Battles Event in Piggy and i found DJ Piggy in the same place like the video photo
6:41
Scary Gary has had to much coffee
Run for your lives
Play some kind of FNaF clone on Roblox like Five nights at cleetus, that even kaden played
lol i know this has nothing to do with anything but
i figured out a rhyme :
" FE FI FO FUM YOU BETTER NOT HAVE TAKEN MY/ THE GUN!!!!"
3:17
Good job on the video 😃
Pony has a wooden sword and u die and with plastic u don't? What LE DIFFERENCE
Little Timmy wants epic reblacks
The reason you couldn’t escape the first time is because only one person can escape per game
when devoun doesnt know when all the secrets stuff is over and done with
That's another thing I got before mango god
(Plus I got the shrine)
Hey Devoun if u read this I actually found it first but I did not rec cuz I thought it was just some bug yea
I remember watching this years ago I feel old
i miss this so much cant wait for rbb3 ong
I REALLY whished it supported Private Servers cuz its hard to find peolle who would let you win