there IS a load on the motor: the propeller. it is doing work to move air and thus draws power, even if it is stationary. This explains the RPM as well: if you were running at no load then you would be close (ignoring internal motor friction/losses) to the max RPM, but because torque is being applied to the motor you need high current in the winding so the RPM (and back EMF) has to reduce to allow for the current.
I think the main problem is their rotor design. With low magnetic coupling, back emf is low so current is high. Plus it been an all steel 'ring' the induced magnetic field in the rotor will be doing all sorts of unwanted things. The motors in the Tesla's are a full induction motor with no magnets in the rotor, the specific shape of the steel rotor gets an induced magnetic field in it which becomes the repulsive magnet, quite clever actually.
Nice video! Reduce the battery voltage if you want to decrease losses, the stator windings of an alternator are designed to operate at high currents / low voltages if you use high voltages you will need to increase the frequency in the inverter to increase the speed and thus the back emf. If the inverter does not reach such high frequencies all you are doing is waste the energy heating the windings. So you can add a higher load to increase efficiency using high voltage or if you want to run the motor with no load you need to decrease voltage to increase efficiency.
There is free energy and free energy generators. Yours aren't working. For your personal use and not for commercial purposes, you can build one that is located at the national patent office in Alexandria, Virginia or at international patent offices in Paris, France or in Geneva, Switzerland. With the deep state practically expropriated, there is no longer any need to fear that they will come in with hired killers and take you off. Do your own research.
@@DIYKingSaM even if you use higher frequency you will face skin effect problem (your alternator coils are 1 solid wire not multi thin wires )your coils will not handle the high current and will heat up change the wiring to star wiring
OMG, you guyz are just genius using those neodymuin magnets from the hoverboard motors was just pure genius. you literally just solved a mental block problem I've been having for over three months. thanks Guyz, great video great build. keep it coming
There is free energy and free energy generators. Yours aren't working. For your personal use and not for commercial purposes, you can build one that is located at the national patent office in Alexandria, Virginia or at international patent offices in Paris, France or in Geneva, Switzerland. With the deep state practically expropriated, there is no longer any need to fear that they will come in with hired killers and take you off. Do your own research.
OMG you are a bot!!! Right? The only thing that is genius about these Indians is they have mastered the method of duping stupid people. The law of conservation of energy states that energy can neither be created nor destroyed - only converted from one form of energy to another. This means that a system always has the same amount of energy, unless it's added from the outside.
Hi, thanks for sharing. I also have high power at no load on my conversion, even with original rotor. I have 200w at 24V. Tested with 2 esc , same result. I will test also another alternator
For a permanent magnet synchronous motor the ideal supply voltage at any given rpm will be about the same voltage as what the motor would generate if spun at that same rpm. At the ideal voltage the motor current will be in phase with the voltage and the power factor will be highest and the current draw the lowest.
@@elitehacker1416, I'm not sure how my statement about him making a composite material using thread and superglue constitutes a free energy device. My statement had nothing to do with the project as a whole.
Neodymium magnets pulls steal elements of alternator chesie, induction is generated in all metal elements surrounding magnets. To breake this fore, power is consumed. Replace all steal elements of alternator chesie. Magnetic fiels should induct only inside coils!
The systems I've seen built in off grid living here in America the alternator is placed below the blade system and has a large flywheel and connected via a belt
I think the that the spacing between the stator and rotor should match. Adding more magnets or using magnets with a bigger width may cause negative results.
🤣🤣🤣🤣😅😅 I love how you get as long with your other worker sometimes your got to tell him this is how we are going to do it lol I wish I was this smart to do what you do ..I hope to try this
I've been watching a lot of DIY Car Alternator Conversions and you guys beat them all hands down. You have a very professional approach and way better tools. I just subscribed to your channel and I hope you do a follow-up video on the problems you encountered with this conversion project.
Converting a car alternator to produce free energy is not entirely free. The free energy must be a collapsing Ether field producing electrical transients. Turning car generators into windmills is not entirely free either. However, the cost of converting a car alternator to produce free energy is very low, and the benefits are great.
Updated : you Hook the 12vlt Gen to a 240vlt Motor = free power []__[]----- [] power board =240vlt - Videos about youtube a guy has a great build for this Imagine free elect run that aircon free in summer & heater in winter + run 12vlt LEDs lights be handy in a bush cabin .
I saw the other video where you used The same motor for the bike saying it's 10KW so you are saying if you could vet efficient wind turbine to turn the alternator at it max it would produce 10KW ?
In your opinion, if we remove the piece that controls the voltage emitted by the generator, and adjust the rotational speed through the stove at a medium speed, neither small nor large, in your opinion, how much electricity will output, volts and amps, approximately. Thanks
Thanks for the video. Please how can someone use a lister generator alternator to generate electricity by using a motor to drive the alternator and the output of the alternator will give load to equipments and still be able to power the driving motor back, in such a continuous way that external power will only be used to jump start it?
One might wonder, if cogging between poles can be reduced in half by introducing another motor on a longer shaft, but with the second rotor's magnets rotated just enough that it falls between cogs on the first rotor. The output of each alternator could be rectified to DC and then their rectified output could be wired in serries, effectively making one alternator with reduced cogging and 12v at closer to 600rpm. By the way, are the coiled connected wye or delta? If it was wired delta, then reconecting the coils as wye will get you more voltage. Where line voltage on delta connected coils becomes 1.732 times as much when the coils are wye connected.
After watching this I wonder if you could make an electric para motor for para gliding. It would be great if you could do this as a project with just hover board motors as they are more readily available.
The free energy must be a collapsing Ether field producing electrical transients. Turning car generators into windmills is not entirely free energy. Converting a car alternator to produce free energy can be done by anyone with some basic knowledge of how electricity works. The process is simple and only requires a few supplies that can be easily found at any hardware store. With a little elbow grease, you can turn your car into a green energy machine that produces clean, renewable power for your home or business.
how do you keep the heat generated by the rotor spinning (friction w/air) from decreasing the magnets magnetic force. You heat magnets up, the become junk metal, so.... Also, the glue has a temp limit as well. There's got to be heat there from eddy current as well?
You may have to rewire the stator with thinner gauge wire and reduce the quantity of the neodymium magnets. Carefully grouping them and spacing the groups might just achieve what you want. It’s all about compromise.
Its about click bait. It is a deception because Newtons third law of motion is unbreakable. Views = cash. that singular reason there are thousands of these videos on youtube. 1 million views in a tier 1 country pays up to $15000.
hello if you want to use it as a generator, it is more useful if you connect the coils in a star. It is as simple as desoldering the ends of the coils and connecting the ends of all the coils to a common point. So it would be 20v, or less kv if you want to use it as a motor. Good job and keep it up
Hi I’ve been watching your DIY projects and I’m loving them, I’m also doing a project with my team “ Alternator driven backup system “ but we in need of car alternator and motor. If possible can you able to sell us components or give us advice what to do
So your alternator was making 12 volts are so when you turned it with drill? others are saying they can make up to 220 volts but i didnt think so. would like to see more experiments with the car alternator w neodynium magnets.
Amazing job guys what’s the dimensions of the new rotor I’m trying to make mine and I’m following you guys steps the electric bike in here are to expensive and the top speed is 25 mph I saw you electric bike and I love it
Can you please tell me where do you outsource the rotor's machining process? I am in Karachi as well. It would be great if you can give me there address. Great video by the way 👍.
In karachi you can get this rotor made by Engine cylinder refurbisher lathe man. Where you get bore the bike cylinder. He can make show him the video and give him stator. The air gap should between rotor magnet and stator should be 1.40 mm rotor dia shorter than stator.
Try using a super capacitor through the brushes from the output, should be able to use some residual magnetism in the rotor to start up the magnetic field, could be that a universal motor would work best seeing that the rotor in those are silicon steel, keeping more residual magnetism than a starter core, mostly from cast iron. Might be wrong as I am only from a mechanical engineering background. 👨🔧🦾
Thread with super glue creates nice hard goodies. I would like to know your technique of winding so symmetrically. Could you make a small video on that.
Hi, I have Doubt...After Conversion into BLDC motor with Permanent magnets like yours, What is minimum/maximum Voltage does it can operate. And what if supply 36/48v input from battery does it work or the winding will burn...?
there IS a load on the motor: the propeller. it is doing work to move air and thus draws power, even if it is stationary. This explains the RPM as well: if you were running at no load then you would be close (ignoring internal motor friction/losses) to the max RPM, but because torque is being applied to the motor you need high current in the winding so the RPM (and back EMF) has to reduce to allow for the current.
I think the main problem is their rotor design. With low magnetic coupling, back emf is low so current is high. Plus it been an all steel 'ring' the induced magnetic field in the rotor will be doing all sorts of unwanted things. The motors in the Tesla's are a full induction motor with no magnets in the rotor, the specific shape of the steel rotor gets an induced magnetic field in it which becomes the repulsive magnet, quite clever actually.
Nice video! Reduce the battery voltage if you want to decrease losses, the stator windings of an alternator are designed to operate at high currents / low voltages if you use high voltages you will need to increase the frequency in the inverter to increase the speed and thus the back emf. If the inverter does not reach such high frequencies all you are doing is waste the energy heating the windings. So you can add a higher load to increase efficiency using high voltage or if you want to run the motor with no load you need to decrease voltage to increase efficiency.
Will try that as well, seem like a good idea.
There is free energy and free energy generators. Yours aren't working. For your personal use and not for commercial purposes, you can build one that is located at the national patent office in Alexandria, Virginia or at international patent offices in Paris, France or in Geneva, Switzerland. With the deep state practically expropriated, there is no longer any need to fear that they will come in with hired killers and take you off. Do your own research.
@@DIYKingSaM Answear should be : I will try, thank you.
@@DIYKingSaM hi, i already test and see the efficiency problem you need to change the coils wiring to star not delta wiring
@@DIYKingSaM even if you use higher frequency you will face skin effect problem (your alternator coils are 1 solid wire not multi thin wires )your coils will not handle the high current and will heat up change the wiring to star wiring
OMG, you guyz are just genius using those neodymuin magnets from the hoverboard motors was just pure genius. you literally just solved a mental block problem I've been having for over three months.
thanks Guyz, great video great build.
keep it coming
There is free energy and free energy generators. Yours aren't working. For your personal use and not for commercial purposes, you can build one that is located at the national patent office in Alexandria, Virginia or at international patent offices in Paris, France or in Geneva, Switzerland. With the deep state practically expropriated, there is no longer any need to fear that they will come in with hired killers and take you off. Do your own research.
Newtons third law of motion is the reason its doesn't work. The north and south poles of a magnet are of equal strength. Think about it.
@@paulsmith1981 could a magnet be applied elsewhere to negate the pull between the poles?
OMG you are a bot!!! Right? The only thing that is genius about these Indians is they have mastered the method of duping stupid people. The law of conservation of energy states that energy can neither be created nor destroyed - only converted from one form of energy to another. This means that a system always has the same amount of energy, unless it's added from the outside.
@@Flea-Flicker Did u watch the video before commenting?
A lot of people talk about environmentalism, but you guys are actually making it happen. Good channel!
Hi, thanks for sharing. I also have high power at no load on my conversion, even with original rotor. I have 200w at 24V. Tested with 2 esc , same result. I will test also another alternator
For a permanent magnet synchronous motor the ideal supply voltage at any given rpm will be about the same voltage as what the motor would generate if spun at that same rpm. At the ideal voltage the motor current will be in phase with the voltage and the power factor will be highest and the current draw the lowest.
Superglue/Thread Composite; ingenious solution using available resources!
Except there's no such thing as a free energy generator. Ask any engineer if you dont believe me.
@@elitehacker1416, I'm not sure how my statement about him making a composite material using thread and superglue constitutes a free energy device. My statement had nothing to do with the project as a whole.
Brilliant video! Reminds me when I was at school . Propper problem solving a natural way to common sense :)
I love smart and creative people , thank you guys 👍❤️
Great effort
Great work bros.
Love from India 🇮🇳
I suggest to paint bright color stripe at the tip of the propeller for safety reason, just like how an aircraft propeller works.
I wish I had friends like you guys!
good work guys full respect
Terrific repurposing project and documentation!
Awesome project, start 0 to 100%
All making part in house 🏠
This motor used in electric bike , how much speed will achieve
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Neodymium magnets pulls steal elements of alternator chesie, induction is generated in all metal elements surrounding magnets. To breake this fore, power is consumed.
Replace all steal elements of alternator chesie. Magnetic fiels should induct only inside coils!
The systems I've seen built in off grid living here in America the alternator is placed below the blade system and has a large flywheel and connected via a belt
I've been waiting for this ! Thanks guys
Nice video Bro!! is it possible for you to give the design of the 3D rotor u bilt?
Great Job Guys 🤓👍🏽Good Luck!!
I love this kind of environment friendly projects.
Fantastic Job my friend
YOU da Man! Thanks Happy trails
I think the that the spacing between the stator and rotor should match. Adding more magnets or using magnets with a bigger width may cause negative results.
🤣🤣🤣🤣😅😅 I love how you get as long with your other worker sometimes your got to tell him this is how we are going to do it lol I wish I was this smart to do what you do ..I hope to try this
You are making so many nice things
Great job very impressive thank you from the USA Ozarks
The iron rotor will be affected by the magnets and affect your bearings. I have one I purchased for wind power and it’s built that same way.
Love from Bangladesh
Thank you very much for sharing your video👍
You can add hi power low watts dc 12v solar electric fan to power your wind turbine for more Rpm.
You do a very very important job guys!
Water cooled car alternators from BMW and Mercedes are 3 phase with permanent magnets build in.
I've been watching a lot of DIY Car Alternator Conversions and you guys beat them all hands down. You have a very professional approach and way better tools. I just subscribed to your channel and I hope you do a follow-up video on the problems you encountered with this conversion project.
Converting a car alternator to produce free energy is not entirely free. The free energy must be a collapsing Ether field producing electrical transients. Turning car generators into windmills is not entirely free either. However, the cost of converting a car alternator to produce free energy is very low, and the benefits are great.
Could the internal wheel, in which the new magnets are mounted, be resin printed?
Great job. Wish u all the best for next project.
Hi, my friend. Great educational video. I’ve got a question: where can we get the battery cells?
Updated : you Hook the 12vlt Gen to a 240vlt Motor = free power []__[]----- [] power board =240vlt -
Videos about youtube a guy has a great build for this Imagine free elect run that aircon free in summer & heater in winter +
run 12vlt LEDs lights be handy in a bush cabin .
I saw the other video where you used The same motor for the bike saying it's 10KW so you are saying if you could vet efficient wind turbine to turn the alternator at it max it would produce 10KW ?
Amazing! Thank you for sharing!
Fantastic Gonzo Engineering
Excellent project 👍
In your opinion, if we remove the piece that controls the voltage emitted by the generator, and adjust the rotational speed through the stove at a medium speed, neither small nor large, in your opinion, how much electricity will output, volts and amps, approximately. Thanks
god bless you brother
One of the first things I learned in life is nothing is free, remember that it will save you mucho time
Thanks for the video.
Please how can someone use a lister generator alternator to generate electricity by using a motor to drive the alternator and the output of the alternator will give load to equipments and still be able to power the driving motor back, in such a continuous way that external power will only be used to jump start it?
When i need a professional engineers to build stuff .my first call will be to them. All the best for your next video.but pls upload early
These guys just ROCK :-)))
This device is very useful for generating energy
Modification if best engineering 👍👍
I also work on electricity generation
Please sell these on Etsy or somewhere.
You can use Scott cast instead of glue.
Well , that could be apply to an electric motor to power a car would it ???
One might wonder, if cogging between poles can be reduced in half by introducing another motor on a longer shaft, but with the second rotor's magnets rotated just enough that it falls between cogs on the first rotor.
The output of each alternator could be rectified to DC and then their rectified output could be wired in serries, effectively making one alternator with reduced cogging and 12v at closer to 600rpm.
By the way, are the coiled connected wye or delta?
If it was wired delta, then reconecting the coils as wye will get you more voltage. Where line voltage on delta connected coils becomes 1.732 times as much when the coils are wye connected.
Brilliant input.
Esta bien hecho pero necesitas modificar el cobre es muy grueso y consume mucho Amperaje, agregale un alambre mas delgado y mas bueltas aldevanado
After watching this I wonder if you could make an electric para motor for para gliding. It would be great if you could do this as a project with just hover board motors as they are more readily available.
just use a box fan
Well I got interested..cause I love car stuff so now I have to watch the videos
2:08 Why are you sure that excessive eddy currents occur in the stator of the alternator?
Attache a fan blade on the end of the alternator blowing towards the alternator to cool it down.
good job guys keep it up
The free energy must be a collapsing Ether field producing electrical transients. Turning car generators into windmills is not entirely free energy. Converting a car alternator to produce free energy can be done by anyone with some basic knowledge of how electricity works. The process is simple and only requires a few supplies that can be easily found at any hardware store. With a little elbow grease, you can turn your car into a green energy machine that produces clean, renewable power for your home or business.
how do you keep the heat generated by the rotor spinning (friction w/air) from decreasing the magnets magnetic force. You heat magnets up, the become junk metal, so.... Also, the glue has a temp limit as well. There's got to be heat there from eddy current as well?
I would love to see if you guys can improve a standard golf cart motor
You may have to rewire the stator with thinner gauge wire and reduce the quantity of the neodymium magnets. Carefully grouping them and spacing the groups might just achieve what you want. It’s all about compromise.
Its about click bait. It is a deception because Newtons third law of motion is unbreakable. Views = cash. that singular reason there are thousands of these videos on youtube. 1 million views in a tier 1 country pays up to $15000.
hello if you want to use it as a generator, it is more useful if you connect the coils in a star. It is as simple as desoldering the ends of the coils and connecting the ends of all the coils to a common point. So it would be 20v, or less kv if you want to use it as a motor.
Good job and keep it up
Really interesting -I am learning a lot from this video!
The design reminds me of a a/c auto compressor
Hi I’ve been watching your DIY projects and I’m loving them, I’m also doing a project with my team “ Alternator driven backup system “ but we in need of car alternator and motor. If possible can you able to sell us components or give us advice what to do
Bhai AP na is ma Jo Esc contoral istaml Kiya ha vo Kitna amp ka kaha or 46 volt use Kiya ha
Very good editing and narration, well done!
So your alternator was making 12 volts are so when you turned it with drill? others are saying they can make up to 220 volts but i didnt think so. would like to see more experiments with the car alternator w neodynium magnets.
That would make an excellent clothes dryer
instead of thread you can try epoxy 2 part resin. And then turn it on your lathe to a smooth finish
Yes we did thought of that but the down side is without any fibre a crack in epoxy can panetrate quickly.
using the star configuration can reduce power consumption but reduce the maximum rpm
More volt need more coil or more powerful magnets
Amazing job guys what’s the dimensions of the new rotor I’m trying to make mine and I’m following you guys steps the electric bike in here are to expensive and the top speed is 25 mph I saw you electric bike and I love it
Can you please tell me where do you outsource the rotor's machining process? I am in Karachi as well. It would be great if you can give me there address. Great video by the way 👍.
In karachi you can get this rotor made by Engine cylinder refurbisher lathe man. Where you get bore the bike cylinder. He can make show him the video and give him stator. The air gap should between rotor magnet and stator should be 1.40 mm rotor dia shorter than stator.
Thank you 😊
This is great work. Well done guys.
True bromance.
How many amps the car alternator has? Why didn’t you reuse the original rotor by converting it to permanent magnet?
Please keep going!!!! I’d like to see you actually using one to produce power for your home or something.
yes
If you keep that stator, keep also the number of poles- magnets on the rotor.
This video legit unlike does other free energy bllsht using 2 sparkplugs and 1 magnet to produce electricity
Try using a super capacitor through the brushes from the output, should be able to use some residual magnetism in the rotor to start up the magnetic field, could be that a universal motor would work best seeing that the rotor in those are silicon steel, keeping more residual magnetism than a starter core, mostly from cast iron. Might be wrong as I am only from a mechanical engineering background. 👨🔧🦾
How did you fix the drawing power?
A finer wound field might give you better results and a freer running motor..
VERY COOL! I saw in your other video that it is 10KW. Is that continuous or peak? Thank you.
Thread with super glue creates nice hard goodies.
I would like to know your technique of winding so symmetrically. Could you make a small video on that.
from where did you got the old hoverboard motors?
These guys are great
Tall you thanks, its not right, too much thanks, formidable , super
good work❤❤❤
brilliant video...
I have a question about what solution you use to move glue from magnets
Well made Dude really great
a job very done....
Hi, I have Doubt...After Conversion into BLDC motor with Permanent magnets like yours, What is minimum/maximum Voltage does it can operate.
And what if supply 36/48v input from battery does it work or the winding will burn...?
Have they tried carbon fibre propellers? Did not make it clear in the video.