Wrenches that Plier or Pliers that Wrench? That is the question. Knipex, Olsa, Icon Theme&Variation

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  • Wrenches that Plier or Pliers that Wrench? That is the question. Knipex, Olsa, Icon from Harbor Freight. Theme and Variations all get the job done.
    Knipex: (good deal for smaller 180): amzn.to/45c7Qg9
    250 Plier Wrench in video: amzn.to/3R8Rv6f
    Olsa Tools: amzn.to/3R9Cv84

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  • @muzzynat
    @muzzynat 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +31

    I just want to point out that the ornamentation on the Knipex is actually functional, it's used to hold the soft jaw protectors.

  • @ronaldberger4752
    @ronaldberger4752 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +25

    Also, Knipex offers soft jaw protectors when using the pliers wrench on delicate finishes such as nuts on shower heads.

  • @gf2e
    @gf2e 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

    That 10:1 reduction is exactly why they’re so effective at round fasteners. Just squeeze hard enough, and now your fastener is less round! :)

    • @pubcollize
      @pubcollize 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Maybe that's where they diverge from the adjustable wrenches. One is used to round nuts, and the other is used to square them.

  • @Xaluber
    @Xaluber 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    I got the Icons on sale for $30 as my intro to this type of tool and liked them so much that I immediately bought a pair of the Knipex 180s to keep in my bag.

  • @knifetrain3118
    @knifetrain3118 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Knipex plier wrench definitely! I’m old school adjustable wrench guy but since I got a pair of Knipex there’s no going back!

  • @courier11sec
    @courier11sec 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I've had the knipex plier wrench and their shallow jaw raptors for a dozen or so years. I used to use the pliers wrench for an fittings with good success, but lately I use them a lot for their clamping force. They do a great job straightening solid wire, sheet metal, etc. Honestly haven't found the raptors to be as useful, but they do have great leverage.

  • @cafecybernz
    @cafecybernz 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Absolutely brilliant educational introduction to the plier wrench concept! A lot of new tool enthusiasts will thank you in the future, Doc. Another application for the perfectly parallel jaws of a plier wrench: straightening or bending metal.

  • @brianmoore1164
    @brianmoore1164 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    I have every size that Knipex makes and multiples of some sizes. They are some of my all time favorite tools.

    • @write2marko
      @write2marko 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Me too 🦾

  • @GlennC789
    @GlennC789 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    They're also great for straightening metal, either thin sheet sheet or wire; or bending the same with decent precision.

  • @markkempton4579
    @markkempton4579 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Great overview. I picked up the Icon for $30 and love them in my limited use so far, but I would prefer smaller sizes, so I'm planning to get a couple smaller Knipex versions.

  • @ronnovak1604
    @ronnovak1604 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    SK also makes one. I have that one and a small knipex. Both are very good quality and work great.

  • @georgeferlazzo7936
    @georgeferlazzo7936 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Hello again, Doc
    Thank you for another Great Video 👍 I have been considering getting a Knipex pliers. In my I have so many pliers I'm not sure which one or however many will need to be remove to make room. Lol what a problem to have. 😊

  • @jasonstorie8740
    @jasonstorie8740 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    I do a lot of pipe fitting in my appliance installation and service business and I have both the Knipex and Icon and I like them both. I’m die hard Knipex but I the icon works just like the Knipex.

  • @FeralRC
    @FeralRC 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

    I use my Knipex for assembling ARs. They're perfect for it!

    • @wcropp1
      @wcropp1 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      You're not the first person I've heard mention pushing in pins, etc., with their plier wrench. Which size do you find best suited to AR assembly? And what tasks are you primarily using them to accomplish?

    • @FeralRC
      @FeralRC 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@wcropp1 I went with the 12in and I use them for roll pins primarily. I also have found a lot of uses for them building and fixing RC cars.

    • @AF-O6
      @AF-O6 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I use the 5” with plastic jaw protectors to install forward assist roll pins, and 7” ones for trigger guard roll pins. The do a neater job with no marring and les likely to break an ear off the lower. They work better than the expensive, dedicated presses I have for those jobs.

  • @Hazan1fan
    @Hazan1fan 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    If I had to choose 1, I would choose the cobra simply because it’s more versatile. In a pinch, I can use the cobra on something designed for the pliers wrench, but vise versa isn’t always doable

  • @Yonni6502
    @Yonni6502 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Nice video. Thank you. You might look at the Wera Joker. It's a sort of spring loaded plier wrench. Although they oddly enough have a whole separate wrench also called the Joker that is more like a traditional combination wrench. We use the plier-wrench version of the Wera Joker for 8 mm SMA connectors.

  • @DarylOster
    @DarylOster 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    My EDC go-to is my 150mm (95% of the time) or my 180mm (30% - so about 25% of the time both are in my pocket(s)). The jaws on my 150 knipex PW have a lot of wear from heavy EDC use - still function fine with many more years of life left in them. There is room for improvement too. My wish list includes: harder and more wear resistant jaws, and tighter tollerances (less slop)...

  • @write2marko
    @write2marko 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    Gedore produce plier wrenches, too. They have "blue" and "red" line of this tool.

    • @andrewscott8892
      @andrewscott8892 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Have you seen Hazet's new ones

    • @funkmon
      @funkmon 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      For metric and standard?

    • @scotts4125
      @scotts4125 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@funkmon It think it's more a level system like Snap-On and Blue Point.

    • @write2marko
      @write2marko 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Blue is their top tier product line. Mostly made in Germany and Austria.
      Red is budget produst line. Mostly made in Asia.

    • @nachoisme
      @nachoisme 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@funkmon😂😂😂

  • @Olsatools
    @Olsatools 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Great comparisons!

  • @ozyrob1
    @ozyrob1 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Another great video. Id love to see you with some Japanese Koken sockets and ratchets. Its beautiful stuff. Try the Zeal or "Z" series (Its the same) You will 100% be impressed with the quality.

  • @shadow7796
    @shadow7796 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I picked up one of the Icon a couple of months ago and have been very satisfied so far. They perform well for the design and are holding up just fine. It'd be nice if HF would start carrying a couple of different sizes of them, like a 7 inch and maybe 12. Capri carries a 7 and 10 inch on their site, so I'll probably pick up a pair of their 7 inch. I haven't had a problem with any of their tools either.

  • @cafecybernz
    @cafecybernz 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I wish Knipex would make a 200mm - 8" Pliers Wrench. Their 180mm - 7"1/4 is a bit too small for my hand, and their 250mm - 10" is too heavy and bulky (more so than the Cobra 250 that is lighter at the front so well balanced). The Knipex TwinGrip, at 200mm, is the perfect handle size for my fingers to wrap around (I have the dual component version 82 05 200.) Ironically, all their competitors have blindly copied Knipex models, down to the same sizes, so I can't find any 200mm - 8" plier wrench made by Hazet, Gedore, Stahlwille, etc.

  • @831savageoutdoorsman6
    @831savageoutdoorsman6 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I wish they would make the pliers wrench upright like a adjustable

  • @ptstouring49
    @ptstouring49 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Nice, going to pick up the Hazet ones as I had to put a Carlyle (I think it’s fujiya or some Japanese brand) in my Hazet tools as Hazet previously never made pliers wrenches.

  • @VeniVidiVid
    @VeniVidiVid 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    “In a pinch” you can try it.
    🥁

  • @Arcticwhir
    @Arcticwhir 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    sk go for 27, love em

  • @nriyo3
    @nriyo3 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Those Olsa ones have jaws like my Grey Tools Germany ones.

  • @adamnoles7999
    @adamnoles7999 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Klein's plier wrench is very similar but has an easier to locate button to my hands as it is lower towards the handle. It has a reversible lower jaw but I found that to be more of a gimmick than useful.

  • @noahrichards553
    @noahrichards553 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I have the Craftsman V-Series version. They’re very nice.

  • @ericchase5421
    @ericchase5421 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Much better than the Knipex version are various offerings across Stanley Black and Decker brands, which offer the superior groove lock ratcheting size size adjust and other innovations. The Lenox set has the widest opening in a 10” size tool, not surprisingly excellent for plumbing large drain pipes. The offer the highest quality French made versions in their higher end brands, and very affordable Irwin Taiwan versions that are quite thin for good access. Klein offers the reversible jaw version which grips round things, as well as solves the Knipex awkward size adjustment problem by moving it down to the beginning of the handle. Really useful tools. I find the size adjustment mechanism on these and the Cobra’s to be very inconvenient, and require to much playing around and readjustment. I have a couple versions of the predecessor Proto 234, 10x compound force pliers, which were great for that, but had a slightly out of parallel head, even though they were patented as parallel jaw pliers in the ‘50’s. Thanks for another good video.

  • @twatmunro
    @twatmunro 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    So is it 'Doc out' because you're a doctor by profession or is Doc just a nickname? (I have the Knipex 150mm in my EDC.)

    • @write2marko
      @write2marko 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      He is the one Bugs Bunny talk about all the time.🙂

  • @jjpellergene466
    @jjpellergene466 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    olsa rebrand, same as greytools...made by Orbis Will...a knipex company...

  • @redkey6538
    @redkey6538 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Which size is an all around best for most jobs would it be the 10 inch or the 7 inch or do you suggest a bigger size?

    • @cafecybernz
      @cafecybernz 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Good question. Of course depends on what jobs you are doing. For home / DIY use, I only wanted to keep one plier wrench. Initially, I bought the 180mm - 7"1/4 but found the handles a bit too small for my hand. Also it did not provide a huge strong grip when straightening or bending metal. So I purchased a 250mm - 10". Heavy and bulky (more so than the Cobra 250 that is lighter at the front and more balanced) but the 10" has a bigger jaw opening and can handle both small and big jobs. I will now sell the 180mm. I wish Knipex would make a 200mm - 8" Pliers Wrench however, like their Knipex TwinGrip, as it is the perfect handle size for my fingers to wrap around.

  • @Ale1456
    @Ale1456 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    Knipex is the inventor of the pliers wrench. They are the best and none of the other alternatives are comparable to it in my opinion.
    And good Lord why would someone buy an ICON pliers wrench priced at 40+ USD ?! At least get the Stahlwille or Gedore versions...

    • @JohnLennon-yg4ut
      @JohnLennon-yg4ut 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      yeah I’m not buying a shitty harbor freight tool when I can spend 10 dollars more and get a German made tool that will lasts forever. harbor freight needs a reality check

    • @GlennC789
      @GlennC789 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      You have a point. Harbor freight is pricing Icon dangerously close to screw-it-I'll-get-the-real-thing levels.

  • @dominiccampbell947
    @dominiccampbell947 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I have a foreman who regularly warns me not to use these when he sees me with them and if I hand them to him when he's after an adjustable he demands I give him a half worn out draper adjustable instead. He seems to enjoy telling me in a stern yorkshire accent that they're water pump pliers.
    That dog just ain't gonna hunt.

  • @Streifenhoernchen2
    @Streifenhoernchen2 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I always need to laugh when I see the icon version. They didn’t even bother to remove the outline of the knipex logo on both sides 😂 That shape is no coincidence, Knipex made that on purpose. That just tells me that a company does not understand the product they copied…

  • @davidpickard9393
    @davidpickard9393 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Pronounced "NIPPEX" silent K

    • @j.gtheautotech8455
      @j.gtheautotech8455 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      No it’s not! Lots of videos online proving it’s Kuh Nippex. The official Knippex TH-cam channel has a video. Lots of TH-cam’s have gone to Sema and even the representatives/ sales people say it’s Kuh Nippex. We learn something new everyday 😎

    • @brianfackrell4139
      @brianfackrell4139 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Company reps also say las wegas.

  • @Ritcheyyy
    @Ritcheyyy 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I should stop buying them, I have like 10 of these knipex beautys… love them.