my theory as to why it has removable sata spots, is possibly for like easy data backup and removal of drives for possibly off site storage? at least i could see that as one use case.
Looks to be a decent little machine for the price. Would be better if you could get one sans OS for $60 less, lol. I don't hate the design choices made here. What is the power draw like? I recently deployed a little x86-P5 development board with the 4xNVME hat as a low power low heat home NAS/server and it, so far, has been a VERY good solution. Although the overall construction is a little janky, lol.
An additional thought, unraid recently changed their licensing tiers related to updates, in the past you would pay for how many drives you want to have connected to your system, and lifetime updates. Currently they have 2 lower tiers that only get updates for a year, and the upper tier that gets you lifetime updates. They are grandfathering in old lower tier plans to continue lifetime updates, but the new ones will be limited. I'm wondering what plan comes with this and if you're stuck with only a year of updates.
It shows up as a Basic license, which from what I can tell is a legacy lifetime license with a 6 drive limit. I don't know the terms of LincPlus's bulk licensing deal and when it renews, so I'm not sure if future batches will have a different license version.
Yep, got both... 1st time I was like wtf is that... I'll find out later... Later came and the images swapped... I would have clicked anyway but I was confused by the image of the back...
TH-cam has recently been rolling out a new feature to let us upload up to 3 thumbnails and it will record very limited analytics for each one separately. But it usually shows the same user the same thumbnail. Major channel have been doing this for a long time manually, changing the thumbnail every 30-60 minutes and watching the analytics. This just makes it easier for everyone else. This video has 3 thumbnails if you can catch them all. In a few days it will have 1 thumbnail.
My main draw to unraid is the ability of using mismatched sized drives when I first set up my system. I could build something and get it working and then upgrade my drives as the funding would allow.
you can totally install truenas on a 4gb drive, I have my asustor flashtor with 8gb emmc set up that way. But it is not officially supported (and for a good reason of not having much space for older boot environments) and you need to go to shell and edit a setup script to bypass the check. So it can run, you just risk to be left with a corrupted rootfs if something goes wrong during an update
my thoughts are going with bonded 2.5 would be pretty good but overall just get a refurb and build something better for less money, it may work for some people but you also have options
Wonder why, in particular for NAS, if going 2.5gb, why not include two? Is that more expensive then a 10gb? Get the speed will still notbbe 10gb but with link aggregating, etc., maybe it bridges some of the gaps people point out when they say no 10gig no interest
Link aggregation is a lot more complicated for users than just going single 10G. 10G also requires more PCIe bandwidth (in this case, it would need gen 3x2). Realistically 10Gbe is not very popular (at 10G and above, SFP+ and higher dominates) and this is especially true in SMB-priced switches.
@@apalrdsadventures Link Aggregation is more tricky but ServeTheHome keeps showing me all these cheap 10G capable switches. I would be happy if they deleted the 2.5" bays and put the lanes into a 10G interface, preferably SFP+. I would buy that,.
A 10GbE port would draw 8-10W continuously and add a lot of heat. An SFP+ port might be a nice option but at that point it becomes a rather different product and most of the target audience would be excluded unless you also add a conventional Ethernet port. It would be a higher price point too.
@@KeithHanlan I would imagine if there were an SFP+ port, most people would probably just opt to put an RJ45 10GbE module in anyways. Not really getting around the power usage either way. It would be a niche of a niche that would actually want an SFP+ port to use fiber. And using fiber for something like this would just be silly. It's a NAS. There's no reason not to put the thing right next to your switch. You really want an SFP+ port to do a 0.5m run of fiber to save ~5W?
@@pseudonymous1382 A $20 DAC which draws negligible power vs two 10GbE ports? Yes, no contest. Even running fiber from a basement NAS to your video editing desktop is scarcely more difficult or expensive than a cat6 run. This is an inexpensive device that is targeting home users who only intermittently transfer large files. So burning an extra 16-20W continuously is a profligate waste in my opinion.
Thank you for your interest! We're excited to share that you can look forward to our new LincStation N1 Refresh. We've listened to user feedback and made some upgrades to the N1, including a more powerful CPU and 10 GIB Ethernet. Stay tuned! 😆
What is the GPU like? I could see many plugging this into their TV and using it as a media player that can also share the media to the rest of the house using something like jellyfin.
i really don't get why these vendors bother with the low end cpu's when you have all that expandability seems to me that most of them are just scheming their way into the market on the expense of the un-experienced
"So I lost my chair..." - We've all been there :)
my theory as to why it has removable sata spots, is possibly for like easy data backup and removal of drives for possibly off site storage? at least i could see that as one use case.
Looks to be a decent little machine for the price. Would be better if you could get one sans OS for $60 less, lol. I don't hate the design choices made here. What is the power draw like? I recently deployed a little x86-P5 development board with the 4xNVME hat as a low power low heat home NAS/server and it, so far, has been a VERY good solution. Although the overall construction is a little janky, lol.
An additional thought, unraid recently changed their licensing tiers related to updates, in the past you would pay for how many drives you want to have connected to your system, and lifetime updates. Currently they have 2 lower tiers that only get updates for a year, and the upper tier that gets you lifetime updates. They are grandfathering in old lower tier plans to continue lifetime updates, but the new ones will be limited.
I'm wondering what plan comes with this and if you're stuck with only a year of updates.
It shows up as a Basic license, which from what I can tell is a legacy lifetime license with a 6 drive limit. I don't know the terms of LincPlus's bulk licensing deal and when it renews, so I'm not sure if future batches will have a different license version.
@@apalrdsadventures ah yeah ok. They no longer call them basic, so I'm hoping it's still grandfathered.
I have one of these too, although i like Truenas more then Unraid 100%
Yep, the thumbnail showing the front was more interesting then the thumbnail showing the back...
TH-cam showed you both?
@@apalrdsadventuresI get both if I don’t watch the video right away
@@apalrdsadventureshappens a lot on al lot of channels for me.
Yep, got both... 1st time I was like wtf is that... I'll find out later...
Later came and the images swapped...
I would have clicked anyway but I was confused by the image of the back...
TH-cam has recently been rolling out a new feature to let us upload up to 3 thumbnails and it will record very limited analytics for each one separately. But it usually shows the same user the same thumbnail.
Major channel have been doing this for a long time manually, changing the thumbnail every 30-60 minutes and watching the analytics. This just makes it easier for everyone else.
This video has 3 thumbnails if you can catch them all. In a few days it will have 1 thumbnail.
I really like this box
My main draw to unraid is the ability of using mismatched sized drives when I first set up my system. I could build something and get it working and then upgrade my drives as the funding would allow.
you can totally install truenas on a 4gb drive, I have my asustor flashtor with 8gb emmc set up that way. But it is not officially supported (and for a good reason of not having much space for older boot environments) and you need to go to shell and edit a setup script to bypass the check. So it can run, you just risk to be left with a corrupted rootfs if something goes wrong during an update
It has a 128G emmc you can also use for TrueNAS, which is nice. But Proxmox will let you share a zfs pool with the root dataset.
Why are they using Linkin Park's logo ?
my thoughts are going with bonded 2.5 would be pretty good but overall just get a refurb and build something better for less money, it may work for some people but you also have options
How cool is this!
Nice! so Proxmox compatible
Wonder why, in particular for NAS, if going 2.5gb, why not include two? Is that more expensive then a 10gb?
Get the speed will still notbbe 10gb but with link aggregating, etc., maybe it bridges some of the gaps people point out when they say no 10gig no interest
Link aggregation is a lot more complicated for users than just going single 10G. 10G also requires more PCIe bandwidth (in this case, it would need gen 3x2).
Realistically 10Gbe is not very popular (at 10G and above, SFP+ and higher dominates) and this is especially true in SMB-priced switches.
@@apalrdsadventures Link Aggregation is more tricky but ServeTheHome keeps showing me all these cheap 10G capable switches. I would be happy if they deleted the 2.5" bays and put the lanes into a 10G interface, preferably SFP+. I would buy that,.
With a more powerful cpu and 10gib ethernet then i would be interested
A 10GbE port would draw 8-10W continuously and add a lot of heat. An SFP+ port might be a nice option but at that point it becomes a rather different product and most of the target audience would be excluded unless you also add a conventional Ethernet port. It would be a higher price point too.
@@KeithHanlan I would imagine if there were an SFP+ port, most people would probably just opt to put an RJ45 10GbE module in anyways. Not really getting around the power usage either way. It would be a niche of a niche that would actually want an SFP+ port to use fiber. And using fiber for something like this would just be silly. It's a NAS. There's no reason not to put the thing right next to your switch. You really want an SFP+ port to do a 0.5m run of fiber to save ~5W?
@@pseudonymous1382 A $20 DAC which draws negligible power vs two 10GbE ports? Yes, no contest. Even running fiber from a basement NAS to your video editing desktop is scarcely more difficult or expensive than a cat6 run. This is an inexpensive device that is targeting home users who only intermittently transfer large files. So burning an extra 16-20W continuously is a profligate waste in my opinion.
Thank you for your interest! We're excited to share that you can look forward to our new LincStation N1 Refresh. We've listened to user feedback and made some upgrades to the N1, including a more powerful CPU and 10 GIB Ethernet. Stay tuned! 😆
You won't get the benefit of 10gbe with unraid
That old cylinder mac would prob work better. What did they call that?
the trash can mac? famous for overheating but a beautiful bit of industrial engineering?
What is the GPU like?
I could see many plugging this into their TV and using it as a media player that can also share the media to the rest of the house using something like jellyfin.
thank you for the video! please fix the -22db audio :')
Screw UnRaid and TrueNas, and that it why I subscribe!!, thanks for the video
Well, Sata SSDs way cooler. I still encounter overheating nvme drives in small or passively cooled chassies
0:39 One NAS, I don't know why
It doesn't even matter how hard your drives
The license it comes with was a 6 device iirc
When you full build and need attach usb storage voa UD you running out of device quota 😂
i really don't get why these vendors bother with the low end cpu's when you have all that expandability
seems to me that most of them are just scheming their way into the market on the expense of the un-experienced
Synology uses super low end processors too. If you are just storing files, it's perfectly fine. VMs, not so much.
Looks kind of like a Xbox or Playstation of NASes 🤪
Audio level too low
second thumbs up.