KTM Pannier Saddlebag Review | 1190 1290
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- A subscriber asked me to review the factory KTM Panniers (Saddlebags). These bags came stock on my 2016 KTM 1290 Super Adventure and fit all Super Adventure models plus the Adventure and Adventure R models.
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Awesome video. List bought a 1090 and wondered what the factory bag setup would be like. Perfect video. Straight to the point
Great comprehensive review , as always . Keep up the good work 👍
Thx Lawrence
Great video. Thanks for posting. You answered every question I had. Awesome !!
Thank you sir! Was hoping I answered everything for you!
Dude, you have me so excited to get my new bike!!! I live in northern NC and I have the 2017 1290 Super Adventure R being delivered mid April. My wife and I go on weekend trips to the outer banks and the mountains now on my Honda NC700X, when she just saw that top bag with the back rest she freaked out. The guy at the KTM dealership where I ordered my bike told me to pick out around $2500 worth of accessories for free. You made up my mind on the KTM hard bags.
Thanks!
First off, congrats on the new bike (I'll be testing on of those just as soon as it's delivered and can't wait!) It's going to be a huge step up from the NC700x in terms of power, handling and comfort. Your wife is gonna love that top case even more once she sits on the bike.
Sorry, I do not speak English, that's why I use the Google translator! Excellent videos ... I decided to buy the 1290 Super Adventure and your videos were helpful! Thanks from Argentina!
No worries! I was just kidding with you. Congrats on your purchase! I'm sure you'll enjoy your new bike.
I didn't realize that the 1290 came with the bags ! Thanks for the review.
No prob. Pretty good value since they're included standard.
Only in the US...
Great review, you can go grocery shopping with those bags and trunk. Thanks for sharing, be safe and Happy New Year!
You really could. There is tons of space.
Absolutely necessary for that
Great review as always.
Thanks Scott! I know the stock bags are a highly subjective and debated topic on the adv forums.
Watched the video... I have the 1190 R, and spend 30% of my riding time on teeth rattling terrain. I have the KTM Pannier bags that have top & bottom mounting points. Very stable. My only complain is that the mounting points R & L side of the bike are too far from the bike frame giving the bike a very wide posterior. I like how the bags presented in the video are mounted close to the bike, and accommodate the tailpipe. Probably not for me due to the mounting design.
I would double check if the vibration is coming from the case or a bad balance performed. Some shops don't really care as much as they should. Definitely they are not for off-road but in case of a fall any bracket could brake or damage the soft bags.
I need to get more luggage for my bike. Loved the overview man!
Thanks! Givi makes some awesome tank lock bags that are a good first piece of luggage. I have a video on one I put on last year.
I'll have to check that one out for sure. I have some simple zipper bags for the tank and tail, but locking ones would be nice. Not sure what they would look like on a Ninja, but having that extra security would be nice to have.
Thanks for the video on the bags. There is a Super Adventure at our local KTM dealer in LR.I'm torn right now between getting a 2016 1190 Adventure R, a 2017 1090 Adventure R, or a 2016 Super Adventure. I live in Arkansas near the Ouachita Mountains and honestly any of these would burn up a rocky National Forrest trail...but I kinda want one I can ride from Little Rock to California too in comfort.
If you want a bike to go cross-country the 2016 Super Adventure is probably your best bet. With a larger windscreen and cruise control (an easy an on) the 1190 would do fine cross country and be better for trail riding. The jury is still out on the 1090 until I can throw a leg over one.
Maybe they have updated these Panniers and top case since this video but you are able to open the top case with one hand if you push the left top case latch first then the right..... the left stays down until you relatch the lid. This action makes it so you can open one handed.
good informative video...best review on you tube...i like the look of it..how well has it lasted..
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Nearly 17,000 miles in one year including a recent 7,300 mile cross country trip...no problems.
Great review!!! thanks!!!
I couldn't wait to get rid of these when I got the bike (2015)(no top case). Had one warranty box replacement on the right side, the latch pin fell out. The other side would not latch when it got hot. Had to slam it so many times I put a dent in it. Not a fan of the two hand operation. Mechanism felt like it would break at any time. Side opening to me meant if it opened accidently, the contents could fall out. Put down some money for Touratech Zega Pro Panniers. All problems gone, probably shouldn't have gotten black. Pros (when it worked): roomy, integrated one lock key operation. Bike looks great when they are removed.
Thanks for the informative videos. I am in shopping mode for a new bike with the KTM 1290 SA and the BMW R1200 GSA being the two serious contenders. When you get to a point where you are performing chain maintenance, i.e. slack adjustment and lubrication, please post a video on the subject. Also, what is your height? I am 5'9"+ with a 32" inseam and wondering if this bike would be a good fit or too tall.
4,000 miles in and the chain is still within spec but I will definitely make a video when adjustment time comes. I've lubed it a few times (easy to do with the center stand). I'm 5'10" with a 32" inseam; should fit you well.
Hey nice review. I’m just wondering do you know if they will fit a 2017 sar. I think these look much better than the one for the updated model and I think these inner bags are amazing.
Yes, they will fit
Great honest review. Will be getting a Superadventure hopefully end of 2018. Keep them coming. Oh one question, Im 5'10", do you think I will have any height issues? Thanks.
Thanks Roger! I plan to keep the videos coming this year. You should have no issues; I'm 5'10" as well.
Thanks bud
Hi Mario
I had a reasonable speed crash on the border of Ecuador, Peru in slippery conditions and also on Ruta 40 and the panniers actually just popped out, no damage at all. My first thought (after turning the bike off of course) was the panniers, I was pretty shocked as I thought I would break them, but no, on both occasions, the top case and a side case popped out and went straight back in. So, I dont know if this is a feature, or if it just happened, but they worked!
Hmm...that's good to know. Hope you made it through unscathed as well!
Yes, there was no one around both times, so saved myself the embarrassment of laughter at my lack of skill :)
Hey Mario, how did you get the lock into your top case? I have the lock assembled, all the keys sit flush with the key in except for the lock tab. It doesn't seem to matter what way I rotate the lock it won't go all the way into the mounting hole...what gives?
That's one thing I can't answer. Since I ordered the top case with the bike the guys at the shop had already assembled the tumblers for me so I've never messed with them.
Damn! Oh well, you can't do everything for me I suppose ;) Thanks for the speedy response..."back to the garage"
do you know what proform bagliners i should purchased. i got the same setup but, purchased used and did not come with inner liners. thank you!
Nice video! Go Herd! I'm from Ashland, KY! Took calculus at Marshall!
Just bought 2017 KTM 1290 SA. T. The reviews were great and your videos were a big help. Was going to get the back case and backrest for wife to get comfortable. How does backrest mount to case. Dealer said adhesive and a review I saw said bolt on but no directions. Wanted to find out before I order one. How did you mount yours and is it comfortable for your passenger or should I get a different after market one. Thanks
Your dealer is incorrect. It attaches with screws. If you look inside the top case (use a flash light) you'll see two little indentations that are your template for drilling. As for comfort, Kristen never complained during out 7,300 mile trip so I'd say it's pretty good.
Great Thank you. Was also going to ask where you store your helmets when eating. Dealer also said two helmets won’t fit in top case. Appreciate your feedback.
Gary K we use a HelmetLok and cable. Here’s a link to it www.amazon.com/shop/2wheeledrider
Thanks for your feedback and videos. There great, 👍
Ordering a new 1290 Adventure R soon and instead of the factory bags, going with the metal ones. Loved the overview but I don't want to run the risk of these bags breaking with a fall. If you're ever headed up North to Mass, let me know.
Congrats on your bike! It's been a couple years since I've ridden up to Mass but I'll be sure to hit you up next time I'm gonna be in that area.
Thanks bud, had a Ducati Hyper 821 for a few years, bought that new, added the trekker bags, aux lights, damper, hand guards, etc. Tried turning a motard into a travel bike. After putting 18,000 miles on it I decided I needed a bigger bike with all the bells and whistles. KTM has their bikes loaded out the door compared to Ducati and BMW, you're paying close to 30 grand when you option them out, a bit ridiculous! -I also go to Long Island every summer as well, but I have plans for a Canada trip too. Ride safe.
You're right. The base prices are all about the same between those 3 until you realize that the full loaded price on the KTM is the base price.
Hey Mario my plastic limit strap snapped. Any replacement options factory or aftermarket or home repairs you have tips on?
I don't know of any factory replacement. I'd make a visit to the craft store. I'm sure something can be fabricated for a few bucks.
Very nice...to the point, practical and sharp...Can you rec some luggage for Baby KTM 390 ADV ?
Thanks but as for the 390, don't know of anything at the moment.
Just saw this post. I just picked up an 1190 Adventure R 2016 last summer. I really like those panniers. I’ve been looking on the KTM Powerparts and can’t find them. Are they not the hepco Becker boxes? Would you be able to give me the parts numbers for the mounting plate and all three boxes please. Also for the inner bags if you don’t mind.
KTM has since updated their panniers and these were discontinued. May be able to find some new old stock somewhere. The following link will show you all of the part numbers issuu.com/ktm_orange/docs/2016ktm_streetpowerpartscatalog_iss
@@2WR thank you very much for the response. 😎👍💯
Excellent review! I do like the convenience of the hybrid top/side loading but think that they are best for road (local) as you mentioned. They are plastic after all. And yes they do jitter around a bit on the highway maybe causing some vibration throughout the entire bike. I have had my 2016 SA since Sept of 2016 and I have not been on any long trips yet. I have researched many hard panniers and in my opinion, the Globescout panniers are by far the most bomb-proof. They are even wider than the KTMs measuring 41" across!
Damn! That's wider than some small cars!
Does the top box use the same key as the ignition/side cases? Because you have to buy it afterwards, I'm guessing it has a separate key? Thanks!
You key the tumbler so yes, it’s the same key.
@@2WR oh ok, thanks! Never done this before so I guess I'll find out how it goes 😂
Any protection to put on the bike over the panniers? I'm thinking if the bike drops, or bags don't properly seat into the bracket and the pannier falls off ... dooohhh! Note: You can lock the panniers with out properly seating onto the brackets, and yet it feels seated and stays on :( . These bags don't have the strongest external case.
None that I know of. A few guys I know have dropped this bikes with the cases on and everything actually held up...much better than I would have though.
Yes there is
In a future video, could you demo taking the top case off?
Just removing the top case or completely removing the mounting bracket as well?
Looking for that plastic plate for this specific top box, atleast where we can buy... thanks in advance
Do you know if these will work on a 2018 Ktm sar? The key is on the fob so I don’t know if that will fit. Bracket on the bike looks to be the same? Thanks
They’ll fit fine. You can get tumblers to work with the key on the fob as well if you want them keyed alike
Awesome! I found someone selling their side cases for $500. I think that’s pretty good deal for the pair? Thanks for the quick response! Happy new year and keep up with the great vids!!
I went through 4 sets of those bags with latch issues. The final straw was when one of them fell off in the middle of the road when I was traveling in NC. the brackets are extremely flimsy. if you are planning on going offroad or taking a long trip that requires a decent amount of gear " even super lightweight "back packing" gear, these things will fail you. pay the extra money for better bags.
I just bought a 2016 Super Adventure and while riding with both saddle bags plus the top bag on, I noticed the 1290 SA starts shaking at speeds greater than 85 mph as I am passing vehicles on the highway. Assuming it’s because of the lack of aerodynamics of the ktm bags. Thoughts?
Page 83 of the owner's manual. "Unstable handling characteristics at high speed. -Adapt your speed according to your payload. Ride more slowly if your motorcycle is loaded with cases or other baggage. Maximum speed with luggage 150 km/h (93.2 mph)." So yep, the big square boxes catch a lot of wind. May also want to adjust your suspension settings for 1 up plus luggage if it's not already set on that one.
I am aware of this ... and as a result the suspension was set at 2 up plus luggage. The real question is, "is there a bolt on (triangular cone) to the front sides of these bags to make them more aerodynamic at higher speeds?”
Not that I've seen thus far. You could try the "floating case carrier kit" which is supposed to help. Earlier this year they released another set of bags for the ADV bikes that "look" more aerodynamic but I haven't read or heard if they actually are.
I bought the floating case carrying kit, had it installed and then road the bike to a (safe :) 105 mph and no issues of fish tailing. It works differently than one might think ... it truly floats (i.e., moves) so as to get out of the way of the wind. In other words, the high speed wind cannot cause enough pressure on the flat surface of the bags, as the bags are floating and therefore moving (out of the way of the wind), which means there is not enough wind force (pressure) on the flat surface of the bags to apply pressure onto the frame, causing the bike to slowly fish tail at high speeds.
George, thanks for the info. I've seen that kit and wondered how well it worked.
I wonder if you can get them keyed alike if you buy them aftermarket. ::thinkingface::
I'm sure it could be done but you'd likely have to go to a locksmith.
Thank you 🙏
Dealer says 1290 don't come with bags. Did they stop offering bikes with it or you have a different model?
2015-2017 KTM 1290 Super Adventure came stock with bags in North America
These bags are okay. They're not what I would consider a long lasting solution and I agree that the locks need regular lubrication to remain operational but they work well for me. I keep my rain gear in the smaller, muffler side and use the other one for carrying crap around. I don't do much offroading but the times I've ridden down a gravel road, I didn't notice too much vibration. I think the full size box is pretty spacious, large enough for a 2x helmet or a load of groceries.
If I were outside the US market and had to buy them separate, I'd go for a more heavy-duty solution but to come standard with the bike, I don't have many complaints.
Yeah, mine have developed a new problem. When I stick the key in to lock or unlock the bags and pull the key out, I have to hold the lock cylinder with my thumb or the whole lock cylinder comes out with the key. I have to take it in and get some little cheap clip replaced that broke off on the back of the cylinder. I agree, Khaja, very disappointing.
Do they still have that kind of pannier on 2019?
I think they've been updated now but these can still be found.
Important! : For anyone having trouble with the locking mechanism (getting it to latch) : loosen the screws of the locks (backside, on the inside of the panniers) a quarter turn or more, all of them. Problem solved! Found it out the hard way on the way to the nothcape. Couldn't close the cases by any means because I left the bike under a tree at night and resin covered everything on the bike, sticking everything to everything. Loosened the screws just a tad and they have been great even since, warm or cold, clean or covered in snow and muck. No problems! Hope this helps some people!
Thanks for sharing that tip!
Can you send me where u bought bags ? I have a 2020 ktm adventure R
So, the US models came with the saddlebags from the factory; I only had to buy the top case. It's my understanding the bags are now discontinued but you may be able to find some NOS somewhere. You can use this link to find the part numbers (pages 118-119) issuu.com/ktm_orange/docs/2016ktm_streetpowerpartscatalog_iss
Can you fit a helmet into the left side case?
If you mean drivers side then yes. An xl shoie full face fits.
I often grocery shop with my decker bags and trunk are great
Also good for fitting cases of beer :)
Very nice hw coast of three bags??
The US spec model came with the saddle bags standard and I believe the top case was about $600. If you have to purchase all 3 you'll be around $1,800.
Hey 2 wheeled rider, How is the bike for passenger comfort?
Kristen finds it more comfortable to ride than my last bike the Yamaha FJR1300.
2 Wheeled Rider Awesome, Thanks for the info great review also! New to the road bike scene, and trying to figure out what route to take. You've been a big help.
No prob man!
Can you put a full face helmet on the top case?
No.
81/5000
Hello, could you kindly give me the maximum width measure that the suitcases occupy? Thankyou
Did you not watch the video? Because I gave the exact measurement. 5:55
39” or roughly 1 mtr
Newer models like 2023 cost 900.00 For side cases and 500.00 for top bag. Oh, and mounting kit is 200.00 however look great
Can u fit a jerry can in the bag?
Haven't tried but I'm thinking probably not. It's almost the exact same dimensions, I believe.
Can you fit a helmet on the top bag?
Might be a little late, but yes. It will fit with ease :)
depends on the helmet size and model.
my shoei xr1100 XL does not fit...yeap, i have a big head lol
good video
Thanks John
I need info on how key new lock for ktm bags on 1290sas
Are you taking about the more rounded Powerparts bags?
@@2WR yes
drive.google.com/file/d/14cbFU0kIvMrUVOPJ2Y5FQdpCLWAUGaFK/view?usp=sharing I have the pdf on my google drive. Try that.
Thanks man that really helps I looked for ever last night try to find no instructions in the box with bag so I winged got them to work but tumble keeps coming back out now I know y thanks agian
nits : crap lock mechanisms, right bag gets HOT, had to add thermal barrier to rh bag but still gets hot after long rides. latches are super flimsy
Here in Peru the bags are additional, doesn't come with the bike. I like your vids.
Thanks Rafael.
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Those bags will fit more than 2 thumbs
As good as this video is , the panniers are far too expensive at over £800 and the key doesn't match the KTM Givi top box I have. Personally I think they're a waste of money.
They come standard on the US model (no charge).
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I have a 2015 SA and the latches on mine are a pain in the butt.. could be cuz the dust but i wash they were a little better...
I lubed mine up with a little silicone when I first got them and they've been pretty good.
I gotta give that a shot again, my issues is the key is hard to turn but we have really fine dirt in my area.. I gotta check out some more of your vids.. im looking to get a new ktm ergo seat and an akraprovic. i modified the stock slip on a little for sound... subbed as well :D
Appreciate the sub!
What's 39 'inches' in the unit that the entire rest of the developed world uses?
ToxicDonut81 39 inches is 1 meter.
Hi guys. Let me give my opinion as a former user. There's no other way to say it, this is a fact: these panniers are a piece of sh&%, and too dangerous, they shake a lot and create a big wobble on the front, i could not go more than 150/160kms/h. Also the locks are no good, you always need to lube them so they can work. I fell on the snow (very soft fall in Morocco last Easter), no more than 5/10kms/h and the pannier cracked and broke the plastic tooth that goes inside the suport. Sold them soon as a could and bought the givi outbacks...great panniers, very solid on the bike, and i can go 220/230kms/h without any probs. Also they look a lot better (but that's personal opinion).
While I don't agree that they're total "sh&%" but you're right about the speed, tip over etc. Glad you got some bags that work well for you. Safe riding!
One thing to note is these bags come FREE with the bike when you buy it new.
I have used these bags for calgary alberta to Prudhoe Bay Alaska and later from Calgary to New Orleans.
My plan was it use them till they died and after two years and forty thousand kilometres they are still waterproof and work great.
Interesting ..... I never like those Stock Plastic or Semi-Plastic Panniers that manufacturers put on the ADV bikes, I got the Stock Aluminum Panniers on my GSA and they take lot beatings with no problems, and for most of the "Problems" a hummer will bring them back in no time ......
You are absolutely correct. I have had a 1290 Super adventure for 3 years, and both of my "free" panniers were busted within six months. The latching mechanism is an over-complicated piece of cheap plastic. This is an adventure bike that comes stock with CRASH BARS and if it falls over it WILL break off the plastic internal locking/latch mechanism! I broke 3 of the mechanisms before I tossed the cases and just got some TUSK cases that have been indestructible. As for the cost of them, at the time the Super Adventure was $2500 more than the 1190. Cruise control and a heated seat isn't worth $2500, part of that cost is the cases..
1290 Super Adventure has a safety flaw in its design, the motorcycle has a major safety problem.
I bought mine six month ago and since day one I have been experiencing head wobble at speed ranging from 100 to 120 mph.
I contacted the dealer and they said “there is a software upgrade regarding the head wobble”
I took the motorcycle to the dealer, after the software upgrade I discovered that the four setting for the damping is not working any more there is not difference in the performance between sports, street, comfort or off-road.
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Agree. These panniers are sh1t. Locking mechanism jammed shut after two years light use. Key turns but box doesnt open. Check for yourself the locking mechanism feels like it was nade out if second hand lego bricks. Shame on KTM.
dont buy these things if you plan to do even the slightest offroad section. they wont survive it
You dont buy them they are free Moron.