There's a saying: "Stop forcing kids to have a relationship emotionally abusive family members. You aren't teaching them family first, you're teaching them that regardless of how someone treats them, they're supposed to love them unconditionally, and that's not a good lesson."
The hurt in the daughters voice at the end.. made me so sad. Theres alot more to this story and im glad she chose a toxic free environment for her environment for herself and her son.
The end said it all to me. I can’t imagine a mother saying “she’s not my daughter anymore.” These are two bitter women. I hope they find healing and peace. 🙏🏾
The grandmother didnt appear too dysfunctional, but you can tell by how the daughter spoke at the end there was clearly way way more to their story. Sometimes, mom or not, toxic family members have to be removed out of one's life in order to have peace in one's life. It's always sad when children & their parents are not on good terms. 💔
You are absolutely correct. Sometimes, mom or not, toxic family members have to be removed out of one's life in order to have peace in one's life. It's always sad when children & their parents are not on good terms.
As a mother I could never imagine saying the things she said about “being done with her daughter”. And as a daughter I could never imagine closing the door on my mom. Then again I was blessed with the best mother anyone could ask for. I pray this ladies can resolve their issues and move on pass it.
There’s more to this story for sure cause there’s no way this daughter feels like this about her mother over some bills/cell phone. Judge Mathis would’ve dug deeper to see what’s really going on to expose this toxic relationship. I pray they both find peace & forgiveness🙏🏽🤍, but it doesn’t mean they have to be around each other.
It was part of the agreement to move to entire new city for her daughter and take care of her son. Why you think the judge ain’t give the money for the bills and only for the phone?
It angered me to see the judge violate the daughter again. The mother is clearly cold and abusive. Some people are toxic and shouldn't be in your life, even if it's your mother.
You’re 100000% right. My heart broke for the daughter. Toxic is toxic. Blood ain’t thicker than peace of mind. Honestly, this one made me question continuing watching this judge as a whole.
Did not anger me, for the daughter is toxic to her mother also. This is not how mother/daughter should be, for one day mother will be DEAD and daughter will have wished she treated her mother better. I wish I still had my mother today, for I loved my mother, and we did have our moments.
They both sound evil. Like mother like daughter. To say if your mother was on fire you wouldn't even spit on her is very very low. To disown your own child is extremely low too. Wtf is wrong with the both of them?
@@PR-by6eb Just because they are your family doesnt mean you have to stay and endure anything other than what your mental health allows. I see issues on both sides mainly with the Mother though. That phone was the cherry on top they've had issues for many years before this happened.
My heart goes out to the plaintiff. I know exactly what its like to have someone in your life with the title behave as anything but. People dont view financial abuse for what is, and with mothers like her its the tip of the iceberg. God bless her and her son 🙏🏿 The moment the mom started badmouthing saying she drinks, etc I just knew it. I hope she finds the healing she deserves.
Agree. Just because someone is blood doesn't mean you need them in your life OR your kids lives. The mother needs good mental health to take care of her child. If her mother messes with that then cut ties. Family doesn't mean blood. Can you tell I have experience with this 😆
I know its hard to believe but sometimes you have to cut granny off. If her mother can say "She's not even my child anymore" why would she would bring her son to her? If she isnt her child then hes not her grandchild.
The judge needs to stay in her lane. She's only heard 5 minutes of a case and believes this grandmother should have access to the grandson. No ma'am, we are not exposing children to toxic family members.
Hey it could have been worse. Imagine if Judge Mathis had gotten this one. At least here she will be heard out and given a fair chance to present her case
Except Gramma is already taking care of grand kids And obviously their relationship was good enough for a contract. Just cause you have a fight doesn't mean jack. I argue with my mom, I could NEVER IMAGINE suing her
@@StevenDohif mom can say on PUBLIC TV this isn't her daughter, she looses all access to me and everything attached. You never know what is said behind your back
This is so sad .. if she was on fire she wouldn’t spit on her ?? Her mother? There’s a lot of dysfunction in that family.. I wished the judge would’ve let her play the voicemails .. nevertheless this is a relationship me and my kids will never have !! The embodiment of love between us is too strong ❤
that’s how i feel about my mother as well. i know it’s shocking to people who have good relationships with their mothers but some mothers are just really shitty people. my mother had an affair & left her four kids behind to be with a younger married man, we haven’t talked in 3 years. sometimes it’s better to put up those walls & cut contact with selfish people. there’s no telling what her mother has done in the past bc we don’t truly know but i also wouldn’t be surprised if some fucked up stuff happened in the past! some mothers don’t have that need to always love their child & put them first - it’s so sad!
@@Kayla-rd5jd Hi Kayla .. I’m so sorry you had to endure a Mother who would put a man before her own flesh and blood, I don’t know the full dynamics of your story but I will say for a person / Mother who would do that is obviously missing a few cards from her deck. I’m sure after she left you and your family was able to get by just fine without her , when someone shows you who they are you must believe them as Maya Angelou once said. I’m adopted and my birth mother came back into my life 7 years ago after being absent since I was 5 ..Iam now 38 . She put off seeing me numerous of times saying she’s going to spend time with her boyfriend.. mind you I only saw her physically 3 times in 7 years . So you have to think what’s most important quality time with your family your blood.. or a man . I’ve cut my birth Mom off .. so I don’t blame you for your actions. In the long run it’s her lost , in time she’ll realize when that man sucks her dry and there’s no real family around ,she’ll regret it .
I understand where Judge M is coming from and why she always champions for families to work it out but she has to realise that her way of thinking isn’t always right! She clearly comes from a loving family, which is why she can’t imagine how a family can feel the way these litigants do and why family members decide to stop associating with toxic family members. Unless someone has been in that situation or lived through that kind of dysfunction and heartache, they will never understand. I myself come from a loving family and can’t imagine that I will ever be in this situation, but I can also understand that the only experience that I have, is the one that I’ve lived! So I would never tell another person what they should do in their situation based off of my experience, thoughts and feelings. It’s so easy for the judge to say what she says all of the time when it comes to family but she has to stop thinking she knows it all and that she is right, when all that she has is her own experience. Family or not, if someone is toxic in your life, you have the right to back away from them for your own sanity. If someone had a toxic friend or romantic relationship, I guarantee that the judge would tell them to cut that person off, so why should it be any different with family just because they are family? Toxic is toxic!
You took the words right out of my mouth. I love Judge Milan, but I disagree with her on this one big time. I had to cut out my Dad's side of the family after he died. They sued me several times to get his money and won. Actually said to one Judge they did not love me in one lawsuit and that was it. I couldn't take that heartache anymore from them. I hope Judge Milan does read some of these comments to get a different perspective of family issues. Thank you for putting your comments in for those of us who know the pain.
JM addressed the adults to "work it out" in order for the child to not get deprived of grandparent's love. The conflict does not include the child so why should he suffer the loss of a grandmother. Sometimes, working it out means let's stop fighting for now, let's not exchange angry words for now, cease fire!
Her Mom's life was fine. She and her son moved in with her because they needed to. Daughter decided to move and wanted her Mom to go knowing she would be without an income. She should have found means to pay her own phone bill though. People are talking about how the Mom basically disowned her daughter, but I haven't read yet any comments on how the daughter said if her mom was on fire she wouldn't spit on her to save her life. She's mad about the conversation with the boyfriend ( now ex). She WILL need her Mom again. I HAD a friend who's entire family cut ties with her because of how she treated everyone. Her parents helped raise her son ( and was doing a great job), she treated them terribly. She lost several friends who witnessed it. When her parents passed, noone at the funerals spoke to her...Noone. It's heartbreaking that family is like this towards each other. I don't know what ever happened to the person I was friends with, her children haven't spoken to her in years.
If a mother says she doesnt know what happened to their child, I look at that mother sidewise. How could you not know? Where were you? Obviously, you don't know everything your children do or go through, but that statement just reeks of negligence to me. My mother doesn't know every little thing about me, but she knows all of my moods, she knows when I'm sad, she cries for me and with me, she laughs with me, she talks with me, she's THERE for me. I tell her many things. I trust her. This case disturbs me so much. Everyone deserves a loving and present mother who speaks life and love into them.
She learned the bitterness from her mother so I believe her… hate the toxicity but You can’t have people who drain your soul and never feed it. I’m sure her and her son are better off without her 😢
There's gonna be a day that they will regret the things they're saying. My mom passed away and I couldn't imagine not having a relationship with her. I miss my mom so much and we were so close. When one of them passes then it will be too late to fix things between them. They're both immature but I think the daughter was more immature then the mother and the grandson is the one that's going to really lose out. It's so sad that grown adults can't look at themselves in the mirror and look at the way they're acting. Smh..
This is so sad! Couldn’t imagine not seeing my granddaughter. And why is mom’s credit not good enough to get her own phone. This is just terrible! My heart breaks for them
When a person uses their child as ammunition to hurt another person, that's just the lowest of the low, because the person who ends up the most affected, is always the child...
the indication that all grandparents are entitled to their grandchildren is not ok. There are some messed up ppl that you should not have around your child(ren) for their mental. Protecting your child’s peace is just as important as protecting them physically. (“She’s not my child anymore” didn’t help.)
Children DO NOT need to be in the company of toxic grandparents. I wish the whole, "at the end of the day, you're family" would end. Ridiculous. The grandmother is a leech, the daughter is better off
“she’s not my child no more” then that isn’t your grandson anymore! But her also saying she wouldn’t save her mother from a fire is why they have this relationship. They are the same.
“She don’t love my son” I believe her! The way she disowned her daughter so readily n willingly I absolutely believe she ain’t got no love for that baby and milian just go fall for the whole cuz they related there’s love script.
It took me a long time to realize my "family" is not family. It took me a long time to walk away. They deprived me, I didn't deprive my children. I gave them more by walking away. I lost a lot of respect for judge in that moment.
@@manadesta6277sometimes that’s what you have to do to protect yourself and your children. Not every family is like your own and there are some extremely difficult situations and toxic people out there.
Both of these ladies have unresolved trauma and it's heartbreaking. This isn't about a phone, it's about unresolved pain. I'm 45 and my mom is and will always be my best friend. I could never imagine life without her. These ladies can't be in the same room with each other and that's not good for the little boy. They both need prayer and healing
Mom owed $600 for the phone. Daughter owes her mother $600,000 for giving birth to her and raising her up- otherwise she would not be here. Ungrateful wretched kids- they will have paybacks ; because their kids will treat them the same way they treated their parents.
I hate when people on the outside don't know what's going on in the inside. It's so easy for people to sit there and say this is wrong this is wrong and not know the full story. Judge Milian does not know the full story. I know exactly what she means by know she doesn't want her mom seeing her son because there's just some mothers that are so evil and so diabolical and so hateful because of what they say to you when you're growing up. Because they love one kid more than they love another kid. And for her to say that she loves that grandchild and that she is raising two other ones those other ones need to be pulled out of that house because that woman is evil. I know she's evil because I grew up with a mother like that they're all nice and nice on the outside. But behind closed doors they're the devil themselves
Judge was hard on the defendant, She didn't even try to understand the defendant's side. Apparently, Judge doesn't understand how the cell phone system works,or how daughters can also take advantage of mothers.
That Mama showed her true colors in the hall. She disowned her child because of a lawsuit. But then expects for that [former] child to give her access to her child.... I understand the daughter's plight. However. They probably don't get along because they're the same person😅
Its annoying that the judge tries to give relationship advice about a situation she knows nothing about. That woman could be toxic and unhinged and she pushes that the son should spend time with her.
This case is far deeper than a phone. They actually needed *Iyanla - fix my life* The vitriol coming from the plaintiff at the end...whew chile I knew she meant that.
I love judge Milian but she needs to stay out of people’s business. She doesn’t know anyone enough to tell her that she needs to let her see her grandson. Toxic family members, whether is a grandmother, brother, cousin, WHOEVER does not need to be around kids. We cut those people out!
One never know where their children may end it. Daughter keep drinking and driving having wrecks, end up dead mama may to raise your son. Mama was good enough to come live with you at your request & be your built in babysitter, allow her to have a relationship with her grandson
It's saddening to know that things happen this way between individuals. It's important to remember that blood makes you related and not family. Family is work. Just because someone is a sibling or parent, doesn't mean you will get along or care to be around each other. Now, I don't think one should continue to harbor hatred toward another and should instead do the work to resolve the issue (even if without the other party).
THE DEFENDANT GOT SOME NERVE & BALL. EXPECTING HER DAUGHTER TO CONTINUE SUPPORTING HER CAR NOTE , INSURANCE, FURNITURE BILL ETC. NOW @ 7YRS OF AGE THE CHILD IS IN SCHOOL EVERYONE SHOULD BE WKG THEN ABLE BODIED & NOT WKG = A BUM. HAVING CONVERSATIONS W/ HER BOYFRIEND IS OUT OF POCKET& WEIRD TO ME. BUT SHE KILLED ME WHEN SHE SAID THAT SHE WAS INDEPENDENT 😐😵💫🤔 NO YOU'RE NOT MA'AM. THE PLAINTIFF ALLOWED THAT BS SO I BELIEVE IT WAS AN AGREEMENT TO BE A LIVE IN BABYSITTER. MARILYN IS ALWAYS OVER STEPPING THAT'S HER CHILD & IF SHE DOESN'T WANT HER MOTHER ARD THAT'S HER CHOICE ALOT MORE IS GOING ON HERE & HAS BEEN FOR A WHILE IT'S BEYOND A CELLPHONE & CONVERSATION W/ A BOYFRIEND SO SHE'S DEAD ASSSS WRG THERE. SO MS SHARPIE BROWS PAY UP FOR THAT CELLPHONE I WOULD BE SO EMBARRASSED BUT I DON'T LEECH OFF MY GROWN CHILDREN EITHER.
So sick of the excuse “they’re still family” no, toxic is toxic. You have the right to cut anyone off who is unhealthy to you!! Blood ain’t thicker than peace of mind.
It's comical that everyone is pegging the grandmother as toxic. Was she toxic when the drunk dropped her son off to be cared for? How toxic was she when she uprooted her life to move and be a 24/7 live caregiver. The drunken daughter is a petty, entitled, ungrateful lil #itch. Because trust me, if her mother was that bad before, she definitely would have made it known.
I was looking for this comment! Thank you! Maybe they did have problems, but obviously they weren't enough for mom to come to daughter's rescue. That's what parents do!
Sometimes the judge needs to just rule on the case in front of her and stop trying to get involved in family issues. You never know the history behind these cases…
There's a saying: "Stop forcing kids to have a relationship emotionally abusive family members. You aren't teaching them family first, you're teaching them that regardless of how someone treats them, they're supposed to love them unconditionally, and that's not a good lesson."
I like this. This is really deep and true.
You are absolutely correct.
This!
Exactly
That’s not a saying b*tch those your own words 😂
"She's not my child anymore because she brought me to court" sounds super toxic to me.
It is!
The hurt in the daughters voice at the end.. made me so sad. Theres alot more to this story and im glad she chose a toxic free environment for her environment for herself and her son.
Me too 😢
My mom acts exactly like her narcissistic people
The end said it all to me. I can’t imagine a mother saying “she’s not my daughter anymore.” These are two bitter women. I hope they find healing and peace. 🙏🏾
Being raised by a mother like this can definitely make someone bitter.
Like Mother, like Daughter.
Is it better to have more people loving your child or better to have the right people loving them, I CHOOSE THE RIGHT PEOPLE & GOD is at the head🙏🏼❤️
THEY BOTH HAVE ICE, NOT BLOOD RUNNING THROUGH THEIR VEINS, VERY COLD- BLOODED HATEFUL WOMEN, SMH 😡😡
I 💀💀and gasp when I heard the mother say that!!! 😮
The grandmother didnt appear too dysfunctional, but you can tell by how the daughter spoke at the end there was clearly way way more to their story. Sometimes, mom or not, toxic family members have to be removed out of one's life in order to have peace in one's life. It's always sad when children & their parents are not on good terms. 💔
Using your mom as a nanny while you go on vacations. Great mom
@@dicktracy5234 The defendant said that, the plaintiff refuted it. There is no evidence to show who was telling the truth.
Sometimes the most toxic one doesn't appear to be the most toxic one.
Who raised who?
You are absolutely correct. Sometimes, mom or not, toxic family members have to be removed out of one's life in order to have peace in one's life. It's always sad when children & their parents are not on good terms.
As a mother I could never imagine saying the things she said about “being done with her daughter”. And as a daughter I could never imagine closing the door on my mom. Then again I was blessed with the best mother anyone could ask for. I pray this ladies can resolve their issues and move on pass it.
There’s more to this story for sure cause there’s no way this daughter feels like this about her mother over some bills/cell phone. Judge Mathis would’ve dug deeper to see what’s really going on to expose this toxic relationship. I pray they both find peace & forgiveness🙏🏽🤍, but it doesn’t mean they have to be around each other.
You got that right, there is some deep dysfunction. Both of them are full of rage. Sad!
Yeah. I almost wish that they could go to his show to see how he would've handled it.
Mom says she is a very independent person,but her daughter has to help her financially!!!
Thank you! Finally, someone said it
That part
It was part of the agreement to move to entire new city for her daughter and take care of her son. Why you think the judge ain’t give the money for the bills and only for the phone?
Right
I know right! Right when the mother said that I thought to myself “but she’s paying for your phone bills”
It angered me to see the judge violate the daughter again. The mother is clearly cold and abusive. Some people are toxic and shouldn't be in your life, even if it's your mother.
You’re 100000% right. My heart broke for the daughter. Toxic is toxic. Blood ain’t thicker than peace of mind. Honestly, this one made me question continuing watching this judge as a whole.
Shame on the judge. This is infuriating
Did not anger me, for the daughter is toxic to her mother also. This is not how mother/daughter should be, for one day mother will be DEAD and daughter will have wished she treated her mother better. I wish I still had my mother today, for I loved my mother, and we did have our moments.
I agree doesn't matter who you are if your toxic you gotta go!!
Yes the mother is and it seems like the daughter is too
🛡 It is our parental duty to PROTECT our kids, even from TOXIC family members!
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This is crazy . Mother and daughter disowning each other over something so simple but i guess we don’t truly know the real hurt there ….
They both sound evil. Like mother like daughter. To say if your mother was on fire you wouldn't even spit on her is very very low. To disown your own child is extremely low too. Wtf is wrong with the both of them?
Speaking as someone with 2 toxic parents...this goes far beyond a phone issue.
It’s not really over something so simple. The phone just set off all the underlying issues. It’s not about the phone
I think there’s way more to this story than we will ever know.
@@PR-by6eb Just because they are your family doesnt mean you have to stay and endure anything other than what your mental health allows. I see issues on both sides mainly with the Mother though. That phone was the cherry on top they've had issues for many years before this happened.
My heart goes out to the plaintiff. I know exactly what its like to have someone in your life with the title behave as anything but. People dont view financial abuse for what is, and with mothers like her its the tip of the iceberg. God bless her and her son 🙏🏿 The moment the mom started badmouthing saying she drinks, etc I just knew it. I hope she finds the healing she deserves.
What kind of parent disowns their own child? Ma'am, she probably learned a lot of this toxicity from your example.
100% correct, you either learn from your toxic mother or you become just like her...I speak from experience.
This is beyond sad. My prayers to them. They should make it right before it's too late.
Sometimes its beyond repair sadly😢
After watching the end
It ain't gonna happen
lawd that wig is sending me 😩😩
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Lmbo. I had to behold it to sis. It looks like one of those wigs George Washington nem use to wear.
@@runwitvision47 girl a complete mess 🤣😩
Gettin’ Wiggy With It
@@runwitvision47I’m crying not George Washington 😩😂😂😂😂
I don't agree with the judge. This grandmother is toxic. I wouldn't have her around my kids.
Agree. Just because someone is blood doesn't mean you need them in your life OR your kids lives. The mother needs good mental health to take care of her child. If her mother messes with that then cut ties. Family doesn't mean blood. Can you tell I have experience with this 😆
I know its hard to believe but sometimes you have to cut granny off. If her mother can say "She's not even my child anymore" why would she would bring her son to her? If she isnt her child then hes not her grandchild.
Exactly!
The judge needs to stay in her lane. She's only heard 5 minutes of a case and believes this grandmother should have access to the grandson. No ma'am, we are not exposing children to toxic family members.
What she heard was enough.
You're a person who is petty...proved the judges point.
@StevenDoh and you seem like a person that thinks it's ok for people to be toxic and SHOULD have access to kids......
Hey it could have been worse. Imagine if Judge Mathis had gotten this one. At least here she will be heard out and given a fair chance to present her case
Exactly!
I can’t see as a mother, talking down about any of my children.😢 the sad part is I hear this A LOT!!!!
The mother is a cold narcissist. Kids don’t act that way towards their parents for no reason
Yes they will and they do
@@nevergivingupmission1370I still think her mom may have been toxic when she was a kid. That may be hard to get over
She not a kid she's an adult.
@@nununicole9408yes, but she was raised and shaped into the adult that she is, from and because of her mother and her upbringing.
@@kyliemarie6386? How the hell would y’all know? You people have too much sympathy. You do not know that lady
The mother is a messy disgrace, the daughter needs to cut this toxic mother out of her life.
Parents have a right to keep their children away from toxic ppl even if they are family members
Good example of a bad mother/daughter relationship.
Judge stay in your lane if grandparents are toxic no they shouldn't have access to the child you don't know everyone's family stay out of it
Except Gramma is already taking care of grand kids
And obviously their relationship was good enough for a contract.
Just cause you have a fight doesn't mean jack.
I argue with my mom, I could NEVER IMAGINE suing her
Right! She need to just focus on the matter at hand! 🙄😒
@@StevenDohat the end of the day you don’t know what’s going on with them outside of this case
@@StevenDohif mom can say on PUBLIC TV this isn't her daughter, she looses all access to me and everything attached. You never know what is said behind your back
@@destinymiller6122 exactly
Honestly I can't even watch the mother vs daughter cases because of my own toxic relationship with my mother. Blah it brings back trauma 😣
This is so sad .. if she was on fire she wouldn’t spit on her ?? Her mother? There’s a lot of dysfunction in that family.. I wished the judge would’ve let her play the voicemails .. nevertheless this is a relationship me and my kids will never have !! The embodiment of love between us is too strong ❤
That was deep
that’s how i feel about my mother as well. i know it’s shocking to people who have good relationships with their mothers but some mothers are just really shitty people. my mother had an affair & left her four kids behind to be with a younger married man, we haven’t talked in 3 years. sometimes it’s better to put up those walls & cut contact with selfish people. there’s no telling what her mother has done in the past bc we don’t truly know but i also wouldn’t be surprised if some fucked up stuff happened in the past! some mothers don’t have that need to always love their child & put them first - it’s so sad!
@@rjhowtos4130 ❤️
I say this same thing about my mom and I mean ever word of it
@@Kayla-rd5jd Hi Kayla .. I’m so sorry you had to endure a Mother who would put a man before her own flesh and blood, I don’t know the full dynamics of your story but I will say for a person / Mother who would do that is obviously missing a few cards from her deck. I’m sure after she left you and your family was able to get by just fine without her , when someone shows you who they are you must believe them as Maya Angelou once said. I’m adopted and my birth mother came back into my life 7 years ago after being absent since I was 5 ..Iam now 38 . She put off seeing me numerous of times saying she’s going to spend time with her boyfriend.. mind you I only saw her physically 3 times in 7 years . So you have to think what’s most important quality time with your family your blood.. or a man . I’ve cut my birth Mom off .. so I don’t blame you for your actions. In the long run it’s her lost , in time she’ll realize when that man sucks her dry and there’s no real family around ,she’ll regret it .
Wow those words are so harsh. Like Mother like daughter!
I understand where Judge M is coming from and why she always champions for families to work it out but she has to realise that her way of thinking isn’t always right! She clearly comes from a loving family, which is why she can’t imagine how a family can feel the way these litigants do and why family members decide to stop associating with toxic family members. Unless someone has been in that situation or lived through that kind of dysfunction and heartache, they will never understand. I myself come from a loving family and can’t imagine that I will ever be in this situation, but I can also understand that the only experience that I have, is the one that I’ve lived! So I would never tell another person what they should do in their situation based off of my experience, thoughts and feelings. It’s so easy for the judge to say what she says all of the time when it comes to family but she has to stop thinking she knows it all and that she is right, when all that she has is her own experience. Family or not, if someone is toxic in your life, you have the right to back away from them for your own sanity. If someone had a toxic friend or romantic relationship, I guarantee that the judge would tell them to cut that person off, so why should it be any different with family just because they are family? Toxic is toxic!
You took the words right out of my mouth. I love Judge Milan, but I disagree with her on this one big time. I had to cut out my Dad's side of the family after he died. They sued me several times to get his money and won. Actually said to one Judge they did not love me in one lawsuit and that was it. I couldn't take that heartache anymore from them. I hope Judge Milan does read some of these comments to get a different perspective of family issues. Thank you for putting your comments in for those of us who know the pain.
Well said!
JM addressed the adults to "work it out" in order for the child to not get deprived of grandparent's love. The conflict does not include the child so why should he suffer the loss of a grandmother. Sometimes, working it out means let's stop fighting for now, let's not exchange angry words for now, cease fire!
Her Mom's life was fine. She and her son moved in with her because they needed to. Daughter decided to move and wanted her Mom to go knowing she would be without an income. She should have found means to pay her own phone bill though.
People are talking about how the Mom basically disowned her daughter, but I haven't read yet any comments on how the daughter said if her mom was on fire she wouldn't spit on her to save her life.
She's mad about the conversation with the boyfriend ( now ex).
She WILL need her Mom again.
I HAD a friend who's entire family cut ties with her because of how she treated everyone. Her parents helped raise her son ( and was doing a great job), she treated them terribly. She lost several friends who witnessed it. When her parents passed, noone at the funerals spoke to her...Noone.
It's heartbreaking that family is like this towards each other.
I don't know what ever happened to the person I was friends with, her children haven't spoken to her in years.
Listen, removing a toxic relative is fine, but never wish bad on people. They both need therapy whether it be together or separately
If a mother says she doesnt know what happened to their child, I look at that mother sidewise. How could you not know? Where were you? Obviously, you don't know everything your children do or go through, but that statement just reeks of negligence to me. My mother doesn't know every little thing about me, but she knows all of my moods, she knows when I'm sad, she cries for me and with me, she laughs with me, she talks with me, she's THERE for me. I tell her many things. I trust her. This case disturbs me so much. Everyone deserves a loving and present mother who speaks life and love into them.
Exactly!!!
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Seriously?? She's an adult 😊
What a shame to bring family to court for such trivial matters.
Her personal life has nothing to do with a contract judge.
The judge just can't help herself from interfering where she doesn't have any business. She won't let them speak but she makes a speech.
Crazy! I would never not be close to my mom over ANYTHING material or money
I let my mom steal 100k before I start suing.
yeah, but you probably have a normal mom...
Then be grateful you are privileged enough to be blessed with a good mother. Not everyone is as lucky, unfortunately.
It's more than the money...I sense it's been toxic for a while.
I believe the defendant said something on the voicemails and I believe she owes for the monthly charges. The judge was unfair.
Judge was using her emotions as a mother and grandmother 🤐 that's why she made a hasty emotional decision
From how the mother said "she got money" that tells me why she didn't feel the need to pay no bils.
When she said lawsuits aren’t a career move 😂😂
The nerve to call someone else a leech when you're leeching off your own daughter!
Wow...I am so BLESSED TO HAVE 2 PHENOMENAL QUEENS...ITS SO SAD TO SEE A DAUGHTER SUING HER MOTHER AND VICE VERSA...NOT GOOD...REAL TALK!!!
Wow. *A mother and daughter relationship just GONE*
Some of us whose parents are no longer here would *LOVE* to have just one more day with them.
Well, if you have a toxic mother? It’s very difficult to continue a relationship with her. Sometimes, you just have to let them go...
She learned the bitterness from her mother so I believe her… hate the toxicity but You can’t have people who drain your soul and never feed it. I’m sure her and her son are better off without her 😢
Nah judge if the mother is a narcissist she gotta go!!!!
There's gonna be a day that they will regret the things they're saying. My mom passed away and I couldn't imagine not having a relationship with her. I miss my mom so much and we were so close. When one of them passes then it will be too late to fix things between them. They're both immature but I think the daughter was more immature then the mother and the grandson is the one that's going to really lose out. It's so sad that grown adults can't look at themselves in the mirror and look at the way they're acting. Smh..
Y’all was close but everyone doesn’t have that relationship. Parents can be toxic and her mother is an example.
@@theycallmedopenessRIGHT!!!
@@theycallmedopenessAGREE
Mom crossed boundary with daughter's boyfriend. The mom creates the issues, and wanted daughter to provide for her financially.
This is so sad! Couldn’t imagine not seeing my granddaughter. And why is mom’s credit not good enough to get her own phone. This is just terrible! My heart breaks for them
When a person uses their child as ammunition to hurt another person, that's just the lowest of the low, because the person who ends up the most affected, is always the child...
the indication that all grandparents are entitled to their grandchildren is not ok. There are some messed up ppl that you should not have around your child(ren) for their mental. Protecting your child’s peace is just as important as protecting them physically. (“She’s not my child anymore” didn’t help.)
YES TRUE
The daughter got free child care and got angry when the ex and her mom was talking.
Just because you give birth doesn't make you a mother. Imagine suing your mom? Its sad on both accounts.
Children DO NOT need to be in the company of toxic grandparents. I wish the whole, "at the end of the day, you're family" would end. Ridiculous. The grandmother is a leech, the daughter is better off
Mom: I am a very independent person
Also Mom: I am not working and she is paying all of my bills. 😂
Love each other from a distance.. It's unbelievable, but not surprised.SMH
“she’s not my child no more” then that isn’t your grandson anymore!
But her also saying she wouldn’t save her mother from a fire is why they have this relationship. They are the same.
“She don’t love my son” I believe her! The way she disowned her daughter so readily n willingly I absolutely believe she ain’t got no love for that baby and milian just go fall for the whole cuz they related there’s love script.
It took me a long time to realize my "family" is not family. It took me a long time to walk away. They deprived me, I didn't deprive my children. I gave them more by walking away. I lost a lot of respect for judge in that moment.
Wow. She's not my child. Who could ever say that. Toxic is true, and I would never let someone like that around my child. Never.
Toxic is toxic. Family doesn't get to stick around and act like that just because they're blood.
The mom is toxic she just disowned her daughter
the daughter toxic too since she disowned her mom
@@manadesta6277sometimes that’s what you have to do to protect yourself and your children. Not every family is like your own and there are some extremely difficult situations and toxic people out there.
So make her son be around a toxic grandmother??? Judge needs to stay in her place and focus on the case!
He has a grandmother on his father's side. NEXT!
I bet the defendant didn’t raise the plaintiff.
Hands down yup.
Grandma probably lived with them too
The judge needs to stick to the case and not judge someone’s family life from the 2 minutes she heard
Both of these ladies have unresolved trauma and it's heartbreaking. This isn't about a phone, it's about unresolved pain. I'm 45 and my mom is and will always be my best friend. I could never imagine life without her. These ladies can't be in the same room with each other and that's not good for the little boy. They both need prayer and healing
Girl sounds definitely spiteful. Ughhh poor mother
Mom owed $600 for the phone. Daughter owes her mother $600,000 for giving birth to her and raising her up- otherwise she would not be here.
Ungrateful wretched kids- they will have paybacks ; because their kids will treat them the same way they treated their parents.
Why did the grandmother have to take care of HER son while she went on vacation and out partying, where was the daddy?
I hate when people on the outside don't know what's going on in the inside. It's so easy for people to sit there and say this is wrong this is wrong and not know the full story. Judge Milian does not know the full story. I know exactly what she means by know she doesn't want her mom seeing her son because there's just some mothers that are so evil and so diabolical and so hateful because of what they say to you when you're growing up. Because they love one kid more than they love another kid. And for her to say that she loves that grandchild and that she is raising two other ones those other ones need to be pulled out of that house because that woman is evil. I know she's evil because I grew up with a mother like that they're all nice and nice on the outside. But behind closed doors they're the devil themselves
people who dont have toxic family members won't understand this
Judge was hard on the defendant, She didn't even try to understand the defendant's side.
Apparently, Judge doesn't understand how the cell phone system works,or how daughters can also take advantage of mothers.
The mother should've never talked to the boyfriend. Why was he comfortable talking about your daughter??? Exactly
What a way to run our life mom!
That Mama showed her true colors in the hall. She disowned her child because of a lawsuit. But then expects for that [former] child to give her access to her child.... I understand the daughter's plight. However. They probably don't get along because they're the same person😅
Wow! God please let my daughters and I continue having a great relationship
Its annoying that the judge tries to give relationship advice about a situation she knows nothing about. That woman could be toxic and unhinged and she pushes that the son should spend time with her.
The ending said everything we needed to know… very sad case. 😢🙏🏾
There's more to this story yall its more than the phone issue
This case is far deeper than a phone. They actually needed *Iyanla - fix my life* The vitriol coming from the plaintiff at the end...whew chile I knew she meant that.
I love judge Milian but she needs to stay out of people’s business. She doesn’t know anyone enough to tell her that she needs to let her see her grandson. Toxic family members, whether is a grandmother, brother, cousin, WHOEVER does not need to be around kids. We cut those people out!
Stop thinking you’re going to have a relationship with someone’s child and you don’t get along with them. That’s not happening.
One never know where their children may end it. Daughter keep drinking and driving having wrecks, end up dead mama may to raise your son. Mama was good enough to come live with you at your request & be your built in babysitter, allow her to have a relationship with her grandson
🙋🏾♀️ in the black community some black mothers are jealous of their daughters…. 🧘🏾♀️
Let’s hear those voicemails from Grandma 🧐
Oh well mother you no longer have a grandson smh. FAMILY!!.. But wait, is she was on fire and if it took for me to spit took me out lol smh..
That last comment by the daughter is wild
It's saddening to know that things happen this way between individuals. It's important to remember that blood makes you related and not family. Family is work. Just because someone is a sibling or parent, doesn't mean you will get along or care to be around each other.
Now, I don't think one should continue to harbor hatred toward another and should instead do the work to resolve the issue (even if without the other party).
Fools say, "God bless her", then spew vile hate.
Sounds like they use words as weapons. They are two peas in a pod. The best of enemies
I think this child knows what shes been through, more than we would ever know. I think Iv been through same.
THE DEFENDANT GOT SOME NERVE & BALL. EXPECTING HER DAUGHTER TO CONTINUE SUPPORTING HER CAR NOTE , INSURANCE, FURNITURE BILL ETC. NOW @ 7YRS OF AGE THE CHILD IS IN SCHOOL EVERYONE SHOULD BE WKG THEN ABLE BODIED & NOT WKG = A BUM. HAVING CONVERSATIONS W/ HER BOYFRIEND IS OUT OF POCKET& WEIRD TO ME. BUT SHE KILLED ME WHEN SHE SAID THAT SHE WAS INDEPENDENT 😐😵💫🤔 NO YOU'RE NOT MA'AM. THE PLAINTIFF ALLOWED THAT BS SO I BELIEVE IT WAS AN AGREEMENT TO BE A LIVE IN BABYSITTER. MARILYN IS ALWAYS OVER STEPPING THAT'S HER CHILD & IF SHE DOESN'T WANT HER MOTHER ARD THAT'S HER CHOICE ALOT MORE IS GOING ON HERE & HAS BEEN FOR A WHILE IT'S BEYOND A CELLPHONE & CONVERSATION W/ A BOYFRIEND SO SHE'S DEAD ASSSS WRG THERE. SO MS SHARPIE BROWS PAY UP FOR THAT CELLPHONE I WOULD BE SO EMBARRASSED BUT I DON'T LEECH OFF MY GROWN CHILDREN EITHER.
Just get over it? The one time i do NOT agree eith the Judge. You do not know their past, you don't know the pain or use she did to that girl.
Wow! That's so sad. You can hear in the daughter's voice that she is hurt. I pray that God repairs their relationship.
So sick of the excuse “they’re still family” no, toxic is toxic. You have the right to cut anyone off who is unhealthy to you!! Blood ain’t thicker than peace of mind.
It's comical that everyone is pegging the grandmother as toxic. Was she toxic when the drunk dropped her son off to be cared for? How toxic was she when she uprooted her life to move and be a 24/7 live caregiver. The drunken daughter is a petty, entitled, ungrateful lil #itch. Because trust me, if her mother was that bad before, she definitely would have made it known.
I was looking for this comment! Thank you! Maybe they did have problems, but obviously they weren't enough for mom to come to daughter's rescue. That's what parents do!
Great point why live with a joke of a mother as an adult smh
No grand kid is better off WITHOUT that lady in their life!
Sometimes the judge needs to just rule on the case in front of her and stop trying to get involved in family issues. You never know the history behind these cases…
Dang I felt that when she spoke at the end sent chills she is hurt 😞
BOTH of them are disappointing 🤦🏽♀️ unreal. SO THANKFUL FOR MY MOM AND MY DAUGHTERS #BLESSED!!!!!!!
The mother saying, "She's not my daughter anymore. Cross her off," was absolutely disgusting. That's not a mother.
I paid my Mom's cell phone and would NEVER think of asking for $$! Couldn'tbe no more $50-$60 more!! My Mom is gone and this MESS BREAKS MY ♥!!
She got a couple lawsuits...😩🤣
It's not often she stays and talks after she leaves the bench, I love when she does that. She doesn't do it often