SILVER CLAY made at home.Recipe, ingredients and sculpting a scull pendant.
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 26 ส.ค. 2024
- In this video i show you how i make my own silver clay and sculpting a small scull pendant.
Disclaimer:
The quality of the silver clay resulting from the recipe you see in the video is by no means comparable with commercial clay brands like Art clay,PMC,Prometius or other brands.
However as you can see in the video, its possible to make stunning fine silver creations.
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this is awesome! what a cool process. thanks for sharing
I am an artist from Germany and because of my Multiple Sclerosis and resulting severe disabilities, I sadly can‘t work anymore to have a regular income. Just having my disability-retirement, these silver art clays always were way to expensive for me, to just mess around with and make jewellery and such. When I searched, if there was a way to make such clay myself, your video came up. This is amazing and gives me (at least a tiny bit) hope, that I can work with silver clay in the future. 😅 Thank you very much for sharing this and many greetings from Düsseldorf! Chris
Thanks for the kind words...hope you doing well.
Wow wow wow!!! In YEARS of bullion collecting and slowly moving over to jewelry design, Is never even HEARD OF silver clay before!! I’m not a sculptor in the SIGHTEST, and I won’t even try my hand at wax carving yet, but this awesome method would be FAB for stenciling or doing imprints, and then you simply just FIRE IT!?!?!? I wish you’d not cut to the finishing so fast so we could have seen the total color change and quenching at the end of ftorching. I’m literally going to spend the whole night researching silver clay, now! CHEERS MATE
Nice to hear i inspired you. Thanks.
It's nice technique Michael, and it's definitely a worth of learning the making process of clay in every metal each! Comparing to buying the clay commercially is far away from the metal prices in stocks! Keep on searching and donor your knowledge here in forums!😊
I know I can't make this but I love the video
This is great! Thankyou 😊 I followed your instructions to a “T” and success!
are you still having success? I'm about to try this, I have all the ingredients, wish there was exact measurements, seems very instinctive, do you have an exact recipe you wouldn't mind sharing? It's absolutely genius he figured It out! might even be better than commercial. Thanks
Sorry no exact measurements. It's idd just instinctive.Ones you have the fine silver powder, go slow on adding the ingredients. Use pure ingredients, Paper glue or rise starch won't do it.
It's amazing at many of these followers asking a excact receipt for the jelly? Maybe it's the psychiatrist test to everyone if you cannot repeat the shown in practice WITHOUT having a excact amount of incredients, maybe you should leave the field or maybe go to cooking forums and start to ask a precice amounts of the food done by the chiefs😅😅
could you use 99.9% powderd silver? also would this work for other metals or would you need a different process?
Shure you can! And after you're done this in practice, you'll know how much there is metal in the paste (XXXk) and what will be the metal percentage in the end when the object burned. Also the shrinking percentage you'll gonna get empirically only😊
You're the man! Who's the man? You're the man! Thanks for posting this. I have so much silver bouillon and this will surely help make some inspired pieces. The commercial stuff is excellent, no doubt. But, It's so damn expensive, as everything is these days.🤔
Thank you so much for the bath showing here to make the paste for myself! I'm shure I can use this with other presious metals too, only the metal powdering process will be different!😉
What do you do with the chemicals when you're done? Amazing process thank you so much for sharing.
Dude!!! This is soooo freaking awesome🤩 thank you for sharing🙏
This is silver clay .It's good video Plz mak a video for gold clay .
Yes! That is what I was searching for when I found this.
This is the best video ever
Great video. Now I understand why they charge so much for precious metal clays. Can you share the weight of the silver from beginning compared to the final product?
And you're shrinkage percent? ?
Yes i can do this with my next batch.........hang on.....
Yes please it seems there is a lot wasted, but what an incredible process! Thanks for sharing!
That's a great technique! I'm Impressed! Forgive me if this has been asked 100 times, but what is the concentration of HNO3 and where is a good place to get it?
68% can be found on ebay or amazon
Thanks for sharing Roger Jonker. Where would I get specific measurements for all Specific ingredients to make it usable? Thanks
One year ago, no reply. I have a feeling my question won't be answered either..
@@ericr154 maybe do a trial on ur own and see 😅
Will this work for gold?
Very gracious of you to share such a thing. Great video💗💗💗
hmm, we could probably do this with copper too?
and thats easily sold in power form.
would be great for making master blanks, carving wax is not ideal I find. so I usually make the final master out of copper.
Do you have a tutorial or PDF that shows the formula amounts and everything in a detailed process? I would be willing to pay for a book or anything, Ive been trying to learn this for a while and this information is so useful
Thanks ❤️
No, just this video showing the basic steps for making pmc.
That's very impressive and cool! 👍😀 Thanks for sharing! 😊
Nice to see you having fun with new projects.
Keep up the good work!
cheers mate.
I love a bit of science so I'll trust my instincts as you have, take it slow and give it a go, thanks very much
Hello Roger, I saw your video a while back when I first started getting into jewelry making. I find myself here again as I would likento begin making my own clays, I am wondering if the process for making gold clay would be any different. Perhaps you or one of your wonderful viewers can help answer my question, thanks!
Hi Erick
Thanks.
Yes i think the process for making gold clay is the same as you see here. Except for making fine gold powder you need aqua regia to dissolve the gold. I never tested it, so I can't give you advise how the outcome will be.
Hi, I saw your post for gold clay, have you tried? I am also interested as where I live is IMPOSSIBLE to buy..... thanks.
Is their anything you didn't add :-).. Highly rewarding, video thank you Friend
Compare to ready made its looks cracks. And yes, join to the people who want to use it with gold. Is it work same way with aqua regia?
Hello thanks for nice video , how many gram of silver do you used for this proses?
I think the acid disolved around 70 grams silver at the start.
Very impressive, looks like a coin from a shipwreck!
Do you know offhand how long the technique has been around? This is the first I’ve heard of it and it’s really cool.
And of course (by the way) thanks for the sub because otherwise I wouldn’t have seen your videos! Subbed!
Thanks....
From wikipadia: Metal clay first came out in Japan in 1990.
Hint> Silver oxide thermite :-)
Roger Jonker wow I didn’t think it’d be that late of a discovery but very cool nonetheless! Have you tried the same thing with gold or copper?
And thanks for the hint, I do plan on doing silver thermite. :) I have got a little under a pound of silver oxide I want to react for a future episode
Have you figured out how much it cost to make your own precious metal Clay versus buying it premade?
Great video Roger, thanks.
A question - what happens to the Ascorbic acid and the NO3 after the silver precipitates out ? Do they go out the clay as gases while firing?
If you rinse the powder with hot clean water this would wash out.
Hi 🙂 perfect video. Thanks for nice tutorial. I would like to ask, what is the shrinkage in %? I saw after firing, that the product is more smaller. Thanks for reply 🙂
Thanks.... I think the shrinkage is around 10 to 15 %
@@RogerJonker Thanks for fast answer, and I have the last question. I guess, if I use 0.999 silver and really clean nitric acid, all others ingredients like oil, cellulose and others will be fired out and I'm able to get again 0.999 clean product? I'm new in this brand and I'm not chemists 😄
@@loszelos4069 There are maybe some carbon atoms left after firing, and some open voids between the silver particles i think. I'm not chemists to.
Very cool.
Wow! So cool dude! Thank you so much! What kind of breathing mask would you recommend (if you do recommend using one)?
Regards from Italy 🌟
Bravo! Thank you! Please, how strong was nitric acid in % ?
+- 50% at start.Mixt with di water around 25%
@@RogerJonker Thank you! :)
Hi! Love your videos! Can you tell me what brand of controller you’re using with your kiln? I’m refurbishing an older kiln and looking at controllers for it, thanks 👍
Wooow 😍
It was nice to see exact step by step and quantities, is nice to see but not posible to reproduce.
I just wonder about the material loss along the way... you showed a gram weight of the final product but what was the starting weight?
Well silver was purified to about 0.999 fine, so it should be less, but later you can clearly see it was 75g of clay from which at 9:43 he took only a bit of it.
that was very interesting. thank you.
Thank you so much for this tutorial! I have a lot of silver scraps that i wanted to use in my projects this is fantastic. Unfortunately I can only buy 9% nitric acid here is the percentage too low? If it’s possible to use do I dilute with less water? What percentage (water + nitric acid) should I aim for?
Thanks.
Sure you can use 9% nitric acid.
Just put silver in and boil it down.
The nitric acid will convert to silver nitrate, it takes a little more time tho.
Please remember to only use 99.9% pure silver at the start to make the clay ( see comments below )
gretings...
Thank you so much for your reply much appreciated! Most of the silver scraps I have are about 0.60- 0.85sv I guess I will have to save them for other projects.. or break them down into pure silver first. Non the less this was extremely interesting. Have you tried this process with gold or brass/copper pieces? Gold clay is ridiculously expensive would love to be able to create at home.
where can I buy all those ingredients or supples?
Two questions.
1) can you only use fine silver scraps in the first step?
2) why is there metal left at the end of the first step? Do you just repeat the process with the metal in your glass flask?
Please read the comments below!
can we use clear glue as binder
🤨 challenging but I love a challenge
What model of ultrasonic cleaner you have?
Oh man I should have paid attention in school
Het ziet er netjes uit. Top man !!!
so cool, thanks
Can u precipitate poor man's aqua regia the same way as you have done and get the same results? In Canada it is very difficult to find nitric acid. And could you use tylose powder instead of the methycellulose?
Could one use the power that one recovers from gold scrap processing and add it the methylcellulose mix to make gold clay?
Yes, sure.
I was planning to make a vid for making gold clay soon :-P
@@RogerJonker AWESOME
Roger Jonker: I’d love to see that!
Are measurements necessary or is it OK to eyeball?
This no measure technique triggers my ocd. Lol
I really wish there were measurements by weight on here. I would even settle for volumetric measurements (and I *hate* volumetric recipes). At least these ingredients don't have as much difference as most food ingredients. 😁
Wow that is nuts. Hope come the silver particles stick together after firing it when you aren't getting higher than the silver melting temp? Or are you?
The point is you have to get close to the melting point of silver ( 900 C - 910 C). The particles stick together as a solid mass. It's not like you have regular pored silver. You cant bend, form or shape it, it breaks.
Amazing
This is great! Thanks for sharing, can this be done with any silver items? I have quite a bit of sterling silver 92.5% as well as 80% and some 60% will the process work the same?
Yes i think so, Bud....
The outcome will bee around 99.8 % puur silver.
If you make jewelry with it and planing to hallmark it you have a bad day.
So first refine the silver and then make powder for the clay.
Gretings :-)
Hi,
Thank you so much for sharing this. It is very helpful.
Do you if the process would be the same with gold? It is impossible to buy where I live..... thank you. Stephanie
Thanks! Yes. Read some comments below for the process. Pure gold is way to soft for making useful items tho, so i'm not going to try to make gold clay, sorry. ( maybe some gold paint? )
This is like an amsr video. Oddly satisfying.
If you use silver powder you just have to use the methyl cellulose, the arabic gum, the lavender and the glycerin?
It works for me.
Thank u so much for sharing.
I have three questions: the jewels that were disolved at the beginning were 925?
The final skull is 1000 ?
If i have silver 1000 is works too? Or I must to allow to work
I'm not a chemist, but your 999/1000 silver should be fine to do this project. If you use 925, I think there are extra steps to remove the copper.
how the hell did you crack the code? are you a scientist?
No scientist, bud thanks.All the info is in the internet to find.
Thats an amazing and informative video! Thank you! Could you use silver nitrate as the starting substrate instead of silver scraps?
Thanks. Yes sure. The reason i make my own silver nitrate is that it is way to expensive for me to by.
@@RogerJonker thank you! Do you know how much silver nitrate you would need to make a similar amount as you did in your video?
You are some kinda chemist!
how come there where still lots of unresolved bits of fine silver in the nitric beaker when you poured the silver nitrate liquid through the funnel?
All nitric acid must be converted to silver nitrate. So always use excess silver while dissolving.
Hoi Roger, bedankt voor dit filmpje! Ik heb 2 vragen;
Is het niet nodig om iets toe voegen om het salpeterzuur te neutraliseren? (Ammoniak bv)
Is het van belang om bepaalde hoeveelheden aan te houden?
Nee niet nodig
Als je zilver gaat oplossen in salpeterzuur zal het zuur volledig omgezet worden naar zilvernitraat.
Wat wel belangrijk is dat je overtollig zilver erin doet .
Als je het op een warmhoudplaatje een dag laat oplossen moet er altijd zilver over zijn wat niet opgelost is.
Zo weet je zeker dat er geen salpeter meer over is.
NOOIT Ammoniak bij zilvernitraat doen!!!
Er ontstaat een zilver ammoniak verbinding die explosief is!!!
Wowsers, this is really cool. Great job!
Hoi Roger, ik heb een vraagje: de salpeterzuur is die 53% of hoger?
Alvast dank voor je reactie!
Hoi
Ja, de sterkte van het zuur was zo ongeveer 53%.
Het is echter niet zo belangrijk voor het maken van zilvernitraat.
Zelfs een 10% sterkte is voldoende om zilver op te lossen, het gaat dan wel iets langer duren.
Belangrijk is wel dat alle zuur heeft kunnen reageren en dat aan het eind zilverresten over zijn.
groet
This is awesome I've been colecting all the little silver ends from my jewellery don't have enough yet to do this but am getting my first bag of pms for Xmas it's a natural progression from polymerclay work with silver chains fittings etc , will keep this n start to search the ingredients as I colect silver I'm loving this ...what would happen if one of my spoils of wire wasn't pure silver I've baught most of them from goldsons in London but there is wire from my start would it fuck it up?
Thanks....
Maby it's just me, but i want my silver clay to be 99.9 % pure silver.
So i refine my unpure silver first to 999 and then make my clay.
You can make it using unpure silver.Not sure how the outcome will be.
Good luck....... :-)
Tonya Antony: that would work if you use molds, but I custom sculpt. It’s nice to know how to create the clay.
Super video, dank je wel. Ik denk er aan om zelf zilver verf te maken welke met een airbrush gespoten kan worden, dan drogen en dan verhitten. Volgens mij kan ik dan de glycerine en lavendel olie wel weg laten, denk je ook? En ben je nog van plan een goud klei tutorial te maken?
Danke. Super ID. Ik gebruik die pasta wel eens om poselein potjes te beschilderen met een kwastje.Je kan het allicht eens proberen met de airbrush.Glycerine en olie zin indd niet nodig daarvoor.Suc6...
@@RogerJonker I don't understand you my love
Hi there! Im so sorry for adding another question after you've gotten so many already. But i was wondering of you could please help me with the process if i have all the ingredients, but all in powder form? I am only confused at the fact that everything was mixed in liquid form and i was wondering if it was only because the silver nitrate was already in liquid form after being processed. Gosh! I dont even know if i am asking my question correctly.lol im so sorry. Would i be able to mix all the powders together in a coffee grinder or something, then add the water to get the clay consistency?
What would be the fun in that? And maybe the ingredients are just unreactive in dry form, but when dissolved in water become very different players. Some research into chemistry principles might answer your questions - good luck!
So the binder is water, methyl cellulose, and gum Arabic? And pure silver powder. Could other metal powders be used?
i think you should try by yourself, im not sure
Yes. You can experiment with other metals. The firing temp will be different tho.
Do you have to use the acid? I don't like hazardous chemicals...
The acid is used for making silver nitrate.
If you can by silver nitrate directly then you can skip the acid step.
Can Silver clay press without altrasonic clener possible . Plz tell me .I have not ultrasonic clener
Yes....sure.Just stir or shake a lot...
Recipe, recipe and one more time recipe. Everything made "more less". It will be great if is shown with balance and real concentration of every ingredients.
Hii this is yash
I have done all the process like you as you tell till the clay you spread over a plet but I can’t got that sticky clay after drying then how did i do to it
Not sure, maby it's to dry now.Try taking a small sample and add some water or other ingredients.
@@RogerJonker sir how should i minimise the loss while stirring and at the time of drying on plate which chemical should i add more so it doesn’t stick to the surface and become perfect clay.positively waiting for your reply😇
Amazing science project but I don’t think it would be safe in my hands so I will just carry on buying the ready made! I would probably blow the house up! Lol😂
Yes! you have to have a little know how about chemistry. I spilled a whole beaker with silver nitrate on my sofa a while back. The first few days nothing was visible. But after light hits it the sofa turned black. :-(
@@RogerJonker oops! My dad used to do acid etching on metal so all this sort of stuff fascinating.
Hi!
Thanks for the amazing video.
Can you please add a list of chemicals and quantities to be used?
Just melt silver shot and pour into a graphite mold. This process is cool but totally unnecessary.
@@totalbullion5882 you do you personalise a graphite mould?
Is there anyway to make it good as commercial pmc nd other brands
Not sure.I never tested commercial pmc.
What's the shrinkage rate of the clay when you make it this way? Because in the video it looks like it shrunk a whole lot, i was just wondering.
About 10 to 15 %
@@RogerJonker thanks for replying I really appreciate it very much.
Thanks for sharing....is it possible to use fine silver powder which is available in some online market?
Sure! you can try a small sample first, be sure to get the finest possible particle size.
@@RogerJonker thanks a lot..😊
what does the ultrasonic cleaner do?
The ultrasonic action helps to make finer "nano" silver particles.
Do this for gold clay
How to buy this . ascorbic acid vitamin c. and methyal cellulose. Plz send me details .plz
What do you think about using dust sweeps in making metal clay? Could it work?
I don't think this will work, never tried it tho. The dust must be very clean to fuse together.
@@RogerJonker That's what I thought. =) Thank you for your reply and great video! Will definitely try this.
@@RogerJonker Also, would love to post your video on my blog! I write a eco-friendly jewelry blog. Would you mind?
@@AnnaHarper Sorry for the late reply. Post it.
Amazing! Just what I’ve been looking for. Do you happen to have a website with written instructions on this?
Thanks... no, just this video showing the basic steps. You have to experiment a little to get it working for you.
@@RogerJonker hi there what would you say the price difference per gram is making it yourself thanks
@@peterdryden1408 Hi
Not sure. If i count the ingredients ( and i just use a little in this vid ) and the power consumption for making the nitric acid, i think the price per gram is just above the metal price.
@@RogerJonker thanks for your reply, have you not thought about selling your own clay privately thanks?
@@peterdryden1408 No, i have a nice full time job, just love the science. I have zero experience in doing business.
How can u do with rice starch
Not sure, you can try.
Can I use citric acid as a reducing agent ?
Not sure! Never tested this. U have to read some info about this...
Hello what is DI water ?
Distilled Water means purified water no ions in it
Do you sell silver clay? Can I buy silver clay from you please?
Sorry...no
My ascorbic acid didn't precipitate the silver from my silver nitrate... any idea why?
I need some more info. How did you made the silver nitrate.
@@RogerJonker dissolved silver in nitric acid. I did add methyl cellulose before I precipitated with ascorbic acid. I wonder if that caused it to not work correctly?
@@luckymetalsrefining8201after dissolving the silver in nitric acid, was there silver left ore was it all dissolved?
@@RogerJonker I had some silver still in the bottom to make sure there was no nitric active
@@luckymetalsrefining8201 Another question: did you leave it this way dissolving on a hotplate for a while?
The greatest of detail in every part except the final returning to metal. Why?
Thanks.
This vid is not about me sculpting my finest object.
I get that. But would it hurt to do the extra 10 seconds of video. It's still why?
shut up loser
kevin james dawes: I don’t see any purpose to your point. Being able to manipulate the clay and create something from it is the message you missed I think. The purpose of this video isn’t about critiquing art taste, and if you’re actually discerning, you know that. Some POV’s are simply petty and distracted, not to mention unappreciative. He showed the finished piece, no more is needed.
@@Gasp7000 not if the process is a lie. My remark was not about artistic merit. I'm baffled as to how you missed that point.. if I say I'm going to make a solid gold item out of butter and sand. And show mixing the components adding heat or waving a stick over it. Then show the finished item that is totally bogus.
Which chemical should i add more so it doesn't stick to my hand and while on drying plate to reduce loss of clay
I've seen people use oil/hand lotion when working with silver clay from the shops
Imagine if someone could turn this stuff into 3d printer filament.?
Do you make custom
?
@@RogerJonker custom jewellery
Did you try the CMC instead of MC ? It is easier to buy.
Not tested CMC.
Good idea tho.i'll try it one day
Hi Roger, thank you for sharing this amazing video!
Does methyl cellulose acts the same as hydroxypropyl methyl cellulose (HPMC)? Because I cant find MC here in my area.
How did you make your kiln?
My home made kilns die after 5 or 6 firings.
So i don't plan to make a tutorial any time soon.
Need to do some improvements first.
have a good day sir, could you give your information for contact about metal clay
Nou kan ik niet bij jou bestelen hahah klei , bedoel is kapot duur
Hice todo pero no me gustó para nada❌️ ! Solo material y tiempo perdido se hace una masilla de plata pero se rompe muy fácilmente y aunque estés 20 minutos con soplete es realmente frágil a no ser que se hagan piezas muy gruesas y toscas. No recomiendo perder tiempo con esto, me quedaré con las arcillas comerciales y ya!🙇♀️🙅♀️❌️
I have a few questions, i want to send private messages to you so know your facebook account-translation prison google translate
You can ask questions here!
I do'n't use facebook.....
@@RogerJonker I do not understand the operating principle of the material chamber in the video th-cam.com/video/KQdy8-2x0fU/w-d-xo.html. can you explain it to me? -the translation from google translation
I'm so sorry....
This was a prodject i did years ago....
You have to do some research on the internet for making clear alum cristals......
@@RogerJonker oh thanks
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