*Lower Register:* Tie *Mid-Belts:* Tie *Upper belts:* Mariah (Tori’s upper belts have improved but her best upper belts still pale in comparison with Mariah) *Head Voice:* Tie (the weakest part of both of their voices. Mariah’s is not very developed, Tori takes on a shrill, masked place sound up there) *Vocal agility:* Mariah (Tori has excellent riffs and runs but I have yet to see her do extraordinary transitions between registers, staccato etc.) countless octave jumps live on stage etc. Whistle Register: Mariah
yall will say anything to make mariah look better than everyone else LMAOOOO tori’s lower register is 100% more solid more consistently than mariah. always. mariah has a lot more range & comfort, yes, but she presses her larynx way down & gets way too airy. tori’s technique down there (when she’s in good vocal health) is A1. mid belts go to mariah IMO. i used to say they were equal, but tori’s mid belts aren’t as good as mariah’s now bc she’s singing in more of a mix. it gives her mid belts a lot less power than mariah’s which are probably as “chesty” as she can manage upper belts… we have multiple clips of tori holding Eb5, E5, F5, F#5 with vibrato. & the nobody love clip here even has a tiny bit of vibrato on the G5, though IDK if i’d count it as held. mariah simply does not have that level of comfort above like D5/Eb5. there’s a clip of her holding an Eb5 here but she normally didn’t do that. head voice, respectfully, obviously goes to tori. mariah has some solid moments, but tori is more solid & more comfortable in head voice. say what you like about her tone being nasal, but her A5-C6 range is pretty fire, especially now. mariah has literally never had that presence above like G5. this is the only clip i’ve seen of her holding a G#5, like ever. the Bb5 from her is dubbed, the B5-D6 from her are all lipped. i’ve been debating for a while if vocal agility is mariah or tori, and i’d say it’s still mariah, yea. tori is an amazing improviser and is very good at making complex runs, quick runs and transitions, but she definitely doesn’t incorporate riffing into her singing style nearly as much as mariah. like, mariah’s doing at least a 3 note riff every other word. tori will pop a long complex one a lot, but yea, it’s not much on mariah. LOL whistle obviously goes to mariah. it might as well be her head voice tbh! i don’t even like how tori sounds up there in comparison 😂
@@AnanastygirlI prefer Mariah’s choices when it comes to agility because she places everything so nicely (Tori doesn’t use as many riffs), but I definitely think Tori is just more natural at riffing, she does it so effortlessly, it’s never a question if she’ll be able to do it, she just can and easily. Mariah puts in a lot more effort and has muddy spots (of course she’s still absolutely incredible, I mean this is MC we’re talking about)
Tori is such an underrated gifted vocalist. One of the best of her generation, I genuinely believe she’s one of the few vocalists that can do a Mariah song justice. I wish her more success in the feature.
Low notes:Tie(depending on tone/approach) Mid belts:Tie(I just like the thicker meatier chestier sound, but Mariah’s is just sooo perfectly balanced) Upper belts:Both but more towards Mariah (has a better sound up there not like raspy/thin) Upper register:Tori?(sounds more fuller) Whsitles:obv the queen of whistles, Mariah! Might edit this again after watching it fully
Agility? I'd say it's again a tie Tori is consistent, faster, improumptu. Mariah is then very creative!! And on a good day super complex...Idk it's they're both the best!
@@vanshmishra7119 Mariah on a good day is faster than even Tori tbh. She’s been able to do like 30 notes of a COMPLEX run in 2 secs which I’ve NEVER seen ANY other artist do. Not only that but agility doesn’t only consist of runs, it also includes transitions and register flips, staccato, etc. and when we include all that in, Mariah only leaves Tori further behind because obviously NOBODY is touching Mariah when it comes to register flips and transitions lol
@BaddieRiah Nopes! The other things that mariah adds true! She does have a wider variety of flavour. But explicit agility Tori is ALWAYS on point. And on a good day does leave Mariah behind. That's why I said Tie.
@ ur SO wrong lol. Mariah’s fastest riffs ARE quicker than Tori’s fastest, it’s a fact. Not only that but in most of Mariah’s craziest riffs she’s usually not JUST riffing, she usually does it at the same time as something else, like PHRASING or BELTING (which does make it HARDER to riff because the vocal cords fatten up when belting making them less flexible). An example of this is her Lead the Way riff, in which she’s not only riffing, but also BELTING AND PHRASING ALL AT THE SAME TIME. Now Tori DID actually do the riff, and I do think she’s one of the few who’s done it justice, but overall it’s just NOT touching Mariah’s because she didn’t even phrase it exactly like Mariah did, meaning actually ENUNCIATING WORDS and she ALSO wasn’t even belting when doing it, she was in a light mix which makes it way easier to do the riff, go figures lol.
@@BaddieRiah dude lead the way came to my mind as well. So I AM giving her the due credit. Mariah is my favourite anyway. But you see she hasn't done Lead the way run live like ever meanwhile tori keeps on slaying her recent iconic bridge over troubled water. Plus when Tori did LTW...she was visibly tired and her vocals were kinda dry but even then she nailed each note anf did that while sitting and live! So, as I said They both are top notch but agility also has lots of category Mariah is superior when it comes to: 1) Transitions 2) Artistry/Uniqueness (She envisions sth no one else can) 3) Complexity Tori is superior in terms of: 1) Speed (explicitly) 2) Consistency/Pitch 3) Effortlessness (It's like her daydream mode is always on)
The comparaison feels a little unfair, considering the difference in length of their careers, I would be so excited to see the same video in a few decades!
I don’t understand the people saying Tori has an undeveloped head voice, it’s literally so clean and pure and beautiful. It’s a bright tone, not nasally, it gives her voice a nice connected sound because her voice is very bright in general.
They just wanna knock her down because she’s the only one who can actually be on the same level as Mariah and the lambs get soo defensive when someone or competition comes close to their queen so they try to find something against a singer like their weakness and use it against them the same with Ariana and Beyoncé. But they ain’t got nothing on my girl Tori!! Love Mariah too tho!
I gotta agree with this tho. They be rating the low notes and mid belts in terms of technicalities and when it comes to hv, they be switching to preferences lol, because they prefer Mariah’s tone 😂
This is my opinion: Low Notes - G#3: Mariah G3: Tori F#3: Tie F3: Mariah E3: Mariah Eb3: Tie D3: Tori C#3: Tie C3: Tori B2: Tori Bb2: Tie Belts - G#4: Mariah A4: Tie Bb4: Tori Bb4: Tori B4: Mariah B4: Mariah C5: Mariah C5: Mariah C#5: Mariah C#5: Tie D5: Mariah D5: Tie Eb5: Mariah Eb5: Tori E5: Tie E5: Mariah F5: Tie F5: Mariah F#5: Tie F#5: Mariah G5: Mariah G5: Mariah Upper Register - F5: Tori F#5: Tie G5: Tori G#5: Mariah A5: Tori Bb5: Mariah B5: Tie C6: Tori C#6: Tori D6: Tie E6: Tori F6: Mariah F#6: Tie G6: Mariah G#6: Mariah A6: Mariah Bb6: Tie C7: Tori C#7: Mariah Lows - Tori > Mariah Belts - Mariah > Tori Upper Register - Tie Tori has 29 points and Mariah has 38 points. Mariah wins (obviously)! Tori is a STELLAR vocalist though and I think she could really hold her own against the greats and do justice to someone like Mariah (especially in her cover of Vision of Love; she was nervous so the whistle note didn't come out well but she ATE the rest of it).
You can really hear the influence that Mariah has on Tori's voice its insane. Obviously Mariah is better, imo, but i see and hear a lot of Mariah in Tori.
Here is my opinion: Lower register:Tori Mid-belts:Tie Upper belts: Tori (Unpopular opinion: Tori has more ease on her upper belts and she is the actual queen of F#5 belts) Head voice: Tori Whistle Tone: Mariah: Vocal Agility:Tie
*Lower Register:* Tie, Tori completely disappears around C3 and that Bb2 had no tone. *Mid-Belts:* Tie *Upper belts:* Mariah (Tori’s upper belts have improved but her best upper belts still pale in comparison with Mariah) *Head Voice:* Tie (the weakest part of both of their voices) *Vocal agility:* Mariah (Tori has excellent riffs and runs but I have yet to see her do extraordinary transitions between registers, staccato etc.) countless octave jumps live on stage etc.
@@Ananastygirl “Mariah was never” kindly look up the definition of “never”. She was consistent below F#3 hence why she can go all the way down to Bb2 with her tone still clear and present while Tori disappears. The issue is, some of you do not know the difference between actual consistency and techniques that are employed for artistic/stylistic reasons.
@@Gui-mt2wu If you really think that the lower the better, you are mistaken. Vivian Reed for example never went below A2 and she would wipe the floor with Mariah Carey without breaking a sweat lol GOOD projection, clarity and depth >>>>
Something important to note is that Tori Kelly never specifically only imitate Mariah (yes! Mariah was an inspiration for sure) but Tori Kelly had so many other artists that she drew inspiration to create her own unique sound. Stylistically, each artist uses more of their vocal register by style (Mariah enjoys whistles and high belts and Tori enjoys low notes and falsettos). With the amount of skill and sheer dedication to their vocal craft, both could easily be unmatched but we adore these queens for their songs, voice and vocal style, not always for their amount of vocal talent per se (however, that's up to the listener). Also Mariah drew inspiration from the greats before her too, but never wanted to copy them, but be the best version of herself! :)
Tough one, they are both excellent and similar to the fact they can reach healthy lows and healthy highs. Lows: both. Tori was better from D3 to B2 though. Belts: both up to D5. Mariah was excellent up to F5/F#5 since the beginning of her career. Tori was only up to D5, becoming inconsistent past that. Nowadays, she has developed her technique to reach higher and better, but 90-96 Mariah is still better. Tori for head voice. Prime Mariah for whistle register. Currently Tori is a tie.
Another great match up (although it has been done plenty it is still a great one). Its like mother and daughter, they're styles have so many similiariries. You can definitely hear Mariahs influence in Tori vocal. It makes for a great comparison. Anyway, basing my opinion purely on these clips. Tori wins for on the lows as she is has better consistency throughout, decent ease and tonal quality and is able to maintain that throughout most of her lower range (b2 and bb2 were clearly just a bit too low imo, so they werent very audible) whereas, mariah does not have great consistency or control in this part of her voice and the tonal quality is not great due to it being mostly air and not having great vocal fold closure. We can clearly tell she has a naturally ability to go low but doesnt necessarily have the technical prowess to have control, ease tomal quality to more than an okay standard. Occasionally there are some better moments (the eb3 and d3 were her best here) but these are overshadowed by tori's being really great to an e3 and maintaining a good standard on every note down to the c3. So in my opinion, Tori's clips show a better technical approach to the lower range. The belts were a bit closer. Both gave superb mid belts with very similar approach, but the upper belts are have a bit more variation to them. Tori has better ease, control and sustainability than Mariah, but mariah has better tonal quality and resonance. Tori can becoming a bit contrained at time making the sound a little tight and mariah pulls a lot of weight into it making it a bit pushed and putting extra pressure on the voice (which due to its exhaustive nature makes it harder to maintain). I'm leaning more toward Tori here mainly because I feel that her technique here is more sustainable in the long run, and she has more ease so is able to do more and stay there for longer. So overall, I'm gonna give the belt to Tori but i can definitely understand why soneone would prefer Mariahs. Head voice. Mariah has very poor consistency, its extremely airy (even in falsetto its surprising how breathy it is) and I'm not sure if that's stylistic, but considering the loss of control at times and just generally how weak the sound is i doubt stylistic. I'm trying to think of nicer things to say but im struggling which kinda says everything, so im just gonna lace that there. Tori's has decent consistency, although the tonal quality, control and support could do with work. And she demontrates decent control. Nothing super amazing but pretty decent. So tori wins here. Mariah wins the whistle hands down. Her control over the whistle is unparalleled. The tonal quality, being able to phrase there, the agility, its unbelievably impressive. Tori is really great this register but she does not have the same level of consistency, control, or just general mastery that mariah has achieved here. So yeah mariah on the whistle. So overall, for me, Tori has the better technique, but obviously, they're both world class at what they do.
Thank you so much for this, been waiting to watch it while doing my plates. Btw I found one fail video for Tori. Do you still need it? Sorry it took more time to find one, I’m bad at determining flats and sharps not unless they’re too obvious.
My only problem with TK is her nasal tone. Her riffs are STELLAR, her agility is really impressive and she sings with so much ease it’s outrageous. But I can’t quite appreciate the nasality in her voice. It’s like a watered-down version of Kristin Chenoweth 😵💫
u guys are always complaining, back then on 2015-2018, tori's voice was so dark & chesty, in 2019-2021, she was into that nasally tone for gaining ease, nowadays she sounds great, the vocal sounds rounded & light at the same time
This video is about vocal skill butttt Preference wise, Mariah’s tonal quality wins out, Her timbre, tonality and musicality for me is head and shoulders above Tori, Again that’s just preference! Both are vocal queens! Great video!
Mariah Carey BY FAR. Superior vocal and musical talent. Not only is her sound production much more optimal, she's also a far more intelligent vocal musician.
Correct me if I’m wrong but to y’all saying they’re tied in upper belts… I have NEVER seen Tori Kelly support a belt above Eb5/E5 live… Mariah has supported up to G5. Not only that but the quality of Mariah’s upper belts are MUCH thicker and she can ACTUALLY resonate extraordinarily well in them, something Tori can’t rlly do. So the only reason yall put Tori above Mariah for upper belts is because she has gone above G5 live multiple times (which Mariah doesn’t rlly do) yet all of those notes are almost ALWAYS strained… Same for agility, they might be on par in terms of riffs and runs but agility isn’t JUST riffs and runs, ya’ll forget transitions & register flips, staccato, and all these other things also are in the agility department, to which Mariah IS superior at.
@BaddieRiah Y'all and this word "support"....💀💀💀 Tori has more ease in her upper belts than Mariah. Mariah does not has ACTUAL resonance in her upper belts, and she is NOT the queen of F#5s. Tori is actually the queen of F#5s. Mariah can't even sustain an F#5 belt for her life.💀💀💀 Tori has WAYYY more ease in sustaining upper belts.🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️ And she has more ease now due to lightening her belts, something that Mariah couldn't do.🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️
@@randall4528Please,go and watch her singing in Make it happen in 1995 MSG, vanishing in 1993 MSG, even if it's over Grammy's 1992, vision of love MSG 1995,I"ll be there there Acapella 1992, and let's see what if you are saying is true lol, Also Mariah singing emotions in 1992 Des Connor.
Lows: Tori (I prefer Mariah's lows tho. She can create a very masculine sound down there, especially on GMA 1990. But Tori I suppose are "safer" lows) Mids: Mariah (Tori's are too thin and whinny, sounds like somebody is pinching her nose. Mariah's mid belts had far more CORE, and foundation, especially in 1994). Uppers: TIE but not really... Mariah wins tbh (Tori's are more effortless, but NOT from the CORE... It's mostly mixed in M2. Mariah's upper notes are actually belted (M1), it peaked in 1994. Those are COREFUL upper belts. But I think the safer way to do those high notes are thru the M2 mix or mask. Tori be sounding like she singing thru her nose). Head Voice: Both are weak, but Tori wins. Mariah wins overall, bc at her vocal peak. Her voice created far more COREFUL resonance, richness & depth. It's not about range it's about the RICHNESS and DEPTH of the voice quality. Tori is a GREAT singer tho. Agility is tie. Mariah's agility (at her best) was very coreful. Tori's best agility is mostly in the mix or heady mix. Tori's more smooth, but Mariah's more foundational. I'd say tie.
It's hard to compare 2 top notch vocalists of diff generations especially when one is current! Coz of the obvious unavoidable biases. I'd say Tori is yet to reach her prime she just keeps improving. And for me Daydream Mariah is the best possible vocalist one can dream of being in this genre! That being said, Lows: Tie (I mean Mariah is a natural But Tori has exceptionally developed this part of her voice) Mid-Belts: TIE (They're perfect) Upper Belts: Daydream Mariah will always be my favourite. BUT Tori these days is hitting G#5/A5 like anything so...quality goes to mariah but quantity to Tori. Head: I think Tori, Mariah never focused here. WHISTLES: Mariah Duh (Tori is developing this as well 😅) Agility: Consistency: Tori Transitions: Mariah Speed: Tori (Prime Mariah Ties this though) Studio Creativity: Mariah Hands Down! Live Creativity: Tori (By little margin) Pitch: Tori Complexity: TIE Tone: In Most songs Tori sounds beautiful/perfect/angelic. But MARIAH will always have the most beautiful tone ever, for me. (For this genre) Overall: Pheww, They are similar yet very different and I'd say to each one their own!! Tori Kelly is making Mariah Carey roud at the end of day!
In My Opinion: G#3 - Tie G3 - Tori F#3 - Tori F3 - Mariah E3 - Tori Eb3 - Mariah D3 - Tie C#3 - Tori C3 - Tori B2 - Mariah Bb2 - Mariah G#4 - Tori A4 - Tie Bb4 - Mariah B4 - Mariah C5 - Tori C#5 - Tie D5 - Tori Eb5 - Tori E5 - Mariah F5 - Tori F#5 - Tori G5 - Tie F5 - Tori F#5 - Mariah G5 - Tori G#5 - Tie A5 - Tori Bb5 - Tie B5 - Tori C6 - Tori C#6 - Tie D6 - Mariah E6 - Mariah F6 - Mariah F#6 - Tori G6 - Tori G#6 - Mariah A6 - Tie Bb6 - Mariah C7 - Tie C#7 - Mariah
She should be the one to do the Mariah movie! She is a sing writer as well on top of being a beautiful emotive singer. She just has to get her tens from Mariah first 😉
@@MommyyriahAs much as I love Mariah, I don’t think she’s ever LIVE belted any G#5s/A5s you say she’s tryna preserve her voice yet she’s been going above and out of her limits since the start of her career! And already had a damaged voice with nodules please be so fr!
I just feel like they’re two iconic legends and musicians that you just can’t compare. Two rightfully earned and deserved legends!! I have nothing but respect for the two!!
I will never forgive you guys for throwing around the words 'icon' and 'legend' to the point where they have lost their meanings. Mariah Carey? ABSOLUTELY a legend. Tori Kelly? How? How is she a musical icon and a legend LMAOOO Of course you'd say something so false. Very on brand of you.
Lows: Tori is more consistent down there, but Mariah has some great moments. I'll give it to Tori. Mids: Tori has more volume, Mariah has better resonance, I'll give to Mariah. Upper belts: Mariah at her best was better than Tori up there, I'll give it to Mariah. Head voice: Neither have well developed head voices. I prefer Mariah's tone up there, so Mariah. Whistle: obviously Mariah I'm gonna ruffle some feathers here, but Tori is overrated imo. She's great by today's standards, but is nowhere near the all time greats like people make her out to be. I also personally find her tone to be quite unpleasant.
@joshuarexrode8533 Tori is not overrated.💀💀💀 Just because her tone isn't pleasant to you doesn't mean that she's overrated.💀💀💀 Honestly, Tori has more ease than Mariah in the upper belts.🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️
Thanks for sharing the unfiltered truth! She is definitely an impressive vocalist but at her best, Mariah in her prime is still undoubtedly stronger. We saw her have a hard time with Vision of Love and even We Belong Together, which is from Mariah after her prime.
idk about you but ive never seen anyone put tori on the same level as the vocal trinity, adele on the other hand... lots of delusional ppl😥now what im about to say might trigger some, but tori is more fitting for the title of mariah's daughter than ariana
What are you on about? Mariah is a notoriously difficult diva, with an obviously fragile ego despite her undeniable talent and attractiveness, whereas Tori has always surprised by her humility, kindness and generosity. And if we're involving God in there too, Tori is a women of faith, whereas Mariah is more of a nominal/cultural believer. The voice question is one thing, but in terms of life, I know the one who's healthy, and the one who's questionable...
@@burburchacha 😂😂 I love how you're calling me a Karen expecting it to have a calming effect I mean, I would love to be wrong on Mariah, but I don't see the fruits of a deep faith in her behaviour unfortunately. I do see them in Tori, but I might be wrong of course, it's difficult to assess things like this from a distance. But I will give the song a listen for sure, thanks for the recommendation. Just next time try to not criticise artists you don't know enough...
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*Lower Register:* Tie
*Mid-Belts:* Tie
*Upper belts:* Mariah (Tori’s upper belts have improved but her best upper belts still pale in comparison with Mariah)
*Head Voice:* Tie (the weakest part of both of their voices. Mariah’s is not very developed, Tori takes on a shrill, masked place sound up there)
*Vocal agility:* Mariah (Tori has excellent riffs and runs but I have yet to see her do extraordinary transitions between registers, staccato etc.) countless octave jumps live on stage etc.
Whistle Register: Mariah
Tori has better lows
mariah has a better head voice
yall will say anything to make mariah look better than everyone else LMAOOOO
tori’s lower register is 100% more solid more consistently than mariah. always. mariah has a lot more range & comfort, yes, but she presses her larynx way down & gets way too airy. tori’s technique down there (when she’s in good vocal health) is A1.
mid belts go to mariah IMO. i used to say they were equal, but tori’s mid belts aren’t as good as mariah’s now bc she’s singing in more of a mix. it gives her mid belts a lot less power than mariah’s which are probably as “chesty” as she can manage
upper belts… we have multiple clips of tori holding Eb5, E5, F5, F#5 with vibrato. & the nobody love clip here even has a tiny bit of vibrato on the G5, though IDK if i’d count it as held. mariah simply does not have that level of comfort above like D5/Eb5. there’s a clip of her holding an Eb5 here but she normally didn’t do that.
head voice, respectfully, obviously goes to tori. mariah has some solid moments, but tori is more solid & more comfortable in head voice. say what you like about her tone being nasal, but her A5-C6 range is pretty fire, especially now. mariah has literally never had that presence above like G5. this is the only clip i’ve seen of her holding a G#5, like ever. the Bb5 from her is dubbed, the B5-D6 from her are all lipped.
i’ve been debating for a while if vocal agility is mariah or tori, and i’d say it’s still mariah, yea. tori is an amazing improviser and is very good at making complex runs, quick runs and transitions, but she definitely doesn’t incorporate riffing into her singing style nearly as much as mariah. like, mariah’s doing at least a 3 note riff every other word. tori will pop a long complex one a lot, but yea, it’s not much on mariah. LOL
whistle obviously goes to mariah. it might as well be her head voice tbh! i don’t even like how tori sounds up there in comparison 😂
@@archangellic Idk I give agility to Tori
@@AnanastygirlI prefer Mariah’s choices when it comes to agility because she places everything so nicely (Tori doesn’t use as many riffs), but I definitely think Tori is just more natural at riffing, she does it so effortlessly, it’s never a question if she’ll be able to do it, she just can and easily. Mariah puts in a lot more effort and has muddy spots (of course she’s still absolutely incredible, I mean this is MC we’re talking about)
two vocal queens 👑
AGREED
I'm a mariah Stan but Tori Kelly is incredible as well, definitely one of the best vocalist we have now.
Tori is such an underrated gifted vocalist. One of the best of her generation, I genuinely believe she’s one of the few vocalists that can do a Mariah song justice. I wish her more success in the feature.
I really want her to play Mariah in the biopic
OH YAYY, both are vocal queens!!
Low notes: Tie
Mid belts: Tie
Upper belts: Mariah
Whistle notes: Mariah
One of the best vocal battles I’ve seen this year!! These vocalists truly resemble each other
honestly i personally think tori resembles xtina if anything
@@archangellic Tori doesn't scream and holler tho.
@@Sttephy30 yeah, screaming while having control of your voice, that's hard
@ She does a lot of screaming and hollering. Regardless of control. And the strain is immense
@Sttephy30 Xtina does not scream, and she doesn't strain now!🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
Low notes:Tie(depending on tone/approach)
Mid belts:Tie(I just like the thicker meatier chestier sound, but Mariah’s is just sooo perfectly balanced)
Upper belts:Both but more towards Mariah (has a better sound up there not like raspy/thin)
Upper register:Tori?(sounds more fuller)
Whsitles:obv the queen of whistles, Mariah!
Might edit this again after watching it fully
Agility? I'd say it's again a tie Tori is consistent, faster, improumptu. Mariah is then very creative!! And on a good day super complex...Idk it's they're both the best!
@@vanshmishra7119 Mariah on a good day is faster than even Tori tbh. She’s been able to do like 30 notes of a COMPLEX run in 2 secs which I’ve NEVER seen ANY other artist do. Not only that but agility doesn’t only consist of runs, it also includes transitions and register flips, staccato, etc. and when we include all that in, Mariah only leaves Tori further behind because obviously NOBODY is touching Mariah when it comes to register flips and transitions lol
@BaddieRiah Nopes! The other things that mariah adds true! She does have a wider variety of flavour. But explicit agility Tori is ALWAYS on point. And on a good day does leave Mariah behind. That's why I said Tie.
@ ur SO wrong lol. Mariah’s fastest riffs ARE quicker than Tori’s fastest, it’s a fact. Not only that but in most of Mariah’s craziest riffs she’s usually not JUST riffing, she usually does it at the same time as something else, like PHRASING or BELTING (which does make it HARDER to riff because the vocal cords fatten up when belting making them less flexible). An example of this is her Lead the Way riff, in which she’s not only riffing, but also BELTING AND PHRASING ALL AT THE SAME TIME. Now Tori DID actually do the riff, and I do think she’s one of the few who’s done it justice, but overall it’s just NOT touching Mariah’s because she didn’t even phrase it exactly like Mariah did, meaning actually ENUNCIATING WORDS and she ALSO wasn’t even belting when doing it, she was in a light mix which makes it way easier to do the riff, go figures lol.
@@BaddieRiah dude lead the way came to my mind as well. So I AM giving her the due credit. Mariah is my favourite anyway. But you see she hasn't done Lead the way run live like ever meanwhile tori keeps on slaying her recent iconic bridge over troubled water. Plus when Tori did LTW...she was visibly tired and her vocals were kinda dry but even then she nailed each note anf did that while sitting and live! So, as I said They both are top notch but agility also has lots of category Mariah is superior when it comes to:
1) Transitions
2) Artistry/Uniqueness (She envisions sth no one else can)
3) Complexity
Tori is superior in terms of:
1) Speed (explicitly)
2) Consistency/Pitch
3) Effortlessness (It's like her daydream mode is always on)
The comparaison feels a little unfair, considering the difference in length of their careers, I would be so excited to see the same video in a few decades!
I don’t understand the people saying Tori has an undeveloped head voice, it’s literally so clean and pure and beautiful. It’s a bright tone, not nasally, it gives her voice a nice connected sound because her voice is very bright in general.
They just wanna knock her down because she’s the only one who can actually be on the same level as Mariah and the lambs get soo defensive when someone or competition comes close to their queen so they try to find something against a singer like their weakness and use it against them the same with Ariana and Beyoncé. But they ain’t got nothing on my girl Tori!! Love Mariah too tho!
@@whitneyhouston1122A Whitney Houston fan saying this is very ironic.
I gotta agree with this tho. They be rating the low notes and mid belts in terms of technicalities and when it comes to hv, they be switching to preferences lol, because they prefer Mariah’s tone 😂
@@ReikyellahWell, never judge a book by its cover..
@Reikyellah Do NOT judge the book by its cover. Just because this person is a Whitney stan doesn't mean they don't like other vocalists.
This is my opinion:
Low Notes -
G#3: Mariah
G3: Tori
F#3: Tie
F3: Mariah
E3: Mariah
Eb3: Tie
D3: Tori
C#3: Tie
C3: Tori
B2: Tori
Bb2: Tie
Belts -
G#4: Mariah
A4: Tie
Bb4: Tori
Bb4: Tori
B4: Mariah
B4: Mariah
C5: Mariah
C5: Mariah
C#5: Mariah
C#5: Tie
D5: Mariah
D5: Tie
Eb5: Mariah
Eb5: Tori
E5: Tie
E5: Mariah
F5: Tie
F5: Mariah
F#5: Tie
F#5: Mariah
G5: Mariah
G5: Mariah
Upper Register -
F5: Tori
F#5: Tie
G5: Tori
G#5: Mariah
A5: Tori
Bb5: Mariah
B5: Tie
C6: Tori
C#6: Tori
D6: Tie
E6: Tori
F6: Mariah
F#6: Tie
G6: Mariah
G#6: Mariah
A6: Mariah
Bb6: Tie
C7: Tori
C#7: Mariah
Lows - Tori > Mariah
Belts - Mariah > Tori
Upper Register - Tie
Tori has 29 points and Mariah has 38 points. Mariah wins (obviously)! Tori is a STELLAR vocalist though and I think she could really hold her own against the greats and do justice to someone like Mariah (especially in her cover of Vision of Love; she was nervous so the whistle note didn't come out well but she ATE the rest of it).
You can really hear the influence that Mariah has on Tori's voice its insane. Obviously Mariah is better, imo, but i see and hear a lot of Mariah in Tori.
Here is my opinion:
Lower register:Tori
Mid-belts:Tie
Upper belts: Tori (Unpopular opinion: Tori has more ease on her upper belts and she is the actual queen of F#5 belts)
Head voice: Tori
Whistle Tone: Mariah:
Vocal Agility:Tie
I agree with this!
*Lower Register:* Tie, Tori completely disappears around C3 and that Bb2 had no tone.
*Mid-Belts:* Tie
*Upper belts:* Mariah (Tori’s upper belts have improved but her best upper belts still pale in comparison with Mariah)
*Head Voice:* Tie (the weakest part of both of their voices)
*Vocal agility:* Mariah (Tori has excellent riffs and runs but I have yet to see her do extraordinary transitions between registers, staccato etc.) countless octave jumps live on stage etc.
@@GarageStudio7 Mariah was never consistent below F#3 lol she only started to "improve" after her voice dropped. Tori is better in the lower register
@@Ananastygirl “Mariah was never” kindly look up the definition of “never”.
She was consistent below F#3 hence why she can go all the way down to Bb2 with her tone still clear and present while Tori disappears. The issue is, some of you do not know the difference between actual consistency and techniques that are employed for artistic/stylistic reasons.
See now this is the most accurate one that I’ve seen and actually agree with!!
Lows: Mariah
Mid: tie
Upper: Mariah
Head voice : tie
Whistle: Mariah
Agility: Mariah (almost tie)
Mariah lows are overrated, Tori is way better
@ Tori after Eb3 is just air and it’s barely audible, Mariah can go down the F2 so she is way better
@@Gui-mt2wu that's not how it works lol
@@Gui-mt2wu If you really think that the lower the better, you are mistaken. Vivian Reed for example never went below A2 and she would wipe the floor with Mariah Carey without breaking a sweat lol GOOD projection, clarity and depth >>>>
@@Gui-mt2wuand Mariah isn’t airy???
Something important to note is that Tori Kelly never specifically only imitate Mariah (yes! Mariah was an inspiration for sure) but Tori Kelly had so many other artists that she drew inspiration to create her own unique sound. Stylistically, each artist uses more of their vocal register by style (Mariah enjoys whistles and high belts and Tori enjoys low notes and falsettos). With the amount of skill and sheer dedication to their vocal craft, both could easily be unmatched but we adore these queens for their songs, voice and vocal style, not always for their amount of vocal talent per se (however, that's up to the listener).
Also Mariah drew inspiration from the greats before her too, but never wanted to copy them, but be the best version of herself! :)
mariah has done more falsetto than anything else in her voice lmao
i said this in another comment but i think tori draws more inspiration from xtina
I love them both
Tough one, they are both excellent and similar to the fact they can reach healthy lows and healthy highs.
Lows: both. Tori was better from D3 to B2 though.
Belts: both up to D5. Mariah was excellent up to F5/F#5 since the beginning of her career. Tori was only up to D5, becoming inconsistent past that. Nowadays, she has developed her technique to reach higher and better, but 90-96 Mariah is still better.
Tori for head voice.
Prime Mariah for whistle register. Currently Tori is a tie.
Send this to The Honest Vocal Coach finally a fair video for both singers lol
Omg I agree! I love the honest vocal coach.
Another great match up (although it has been done plenty it is still a great one). Its like mother and daughter, they're styles have so many similiariries. You can definitely hear Mariahs influence in Tori vocal. It makes for a great comparison.
Anyway, basing my opinion purely on these clips.
Tori wins for on the lows as she is has better consistency throughout, decent ease and tonal quality and is able to maintain that throughout most of her lower range (b2 and bb2 were clearly just a bit too low imo, so they werent very audible) whereas, mariah does not have great consistency or control in this part of her voice and the tonal quality is not great due to it being mostly air and not having great vocal fold closure. We can clearly tell she has a naturally ability to go low but doesnt necessarily have the technical prowess to have control, ease tomal quality to more than an okay standard. Occasionally there are some better moments (the eb3 and d3 were her best here) but these are overshadowed by tori's being really great to an e3 and maintaining a good standard on every note down to the c3. So in my opinion, Tori's clips show a better technical approach to the lower range.
The belts were a bit closer. Both gave superb mid belts with very similar approach, but the upper belts are have a bit more variation to them. Tori has better ease, control and sustainability than Mariah, but mariah has better tonal quality and resonance. Tori can becoming a bit contrained at time making the sound a little tight and mariah pulls a lot of weight into it making it a bit pushed and putting extra pressure on the voice (which due to its exhaustive nature makes it harder to maintain). I'm leaning more toward Tori here mainly because I feel that her technique here is more sustainable in the long run, and she has more ease so is able to do more and stay there for longer. So overall, I'm gonna give the belt to Tori but i can definitely understand why soneone would prefer Mariahs.
Head voice. Mariah has very poor consistency, its extremely airy (even in falsetto its surprising how breathy it is) and I'm not sure if that's stylistic, but considering the loss of control at times and just generally how weak the sound is i doubt stylistic. I'm trying to think of nicer things to say but im struggling which kinda says everything, so im just gonna lace that there. Tori's has decent consistency, although the tonal quality, control and support could do with work. And she demontrates decent control. Nothing super amazing but pretty decent. So tori wins here.
Mariah wins the whistle hands down. Her control over the whistle is unparalleled. The tonal quality, being able to phrase there, the agility, its unbelievably impressive. Tori is really great this register but she does not have the same level of consistency, control, or just general mastery that mariah has achieved here. So yeah mariah on the whistle.
So overall, for me, Tori has the better technique, but obviously, they're both world class at what they do.
All I'm gonna say is, I hope when it comes to a biography, they better choose Tori Kelly to play Mariah.
Mariah Was A Great Vocalist, now is a great lypsinger 💋
Thank you so much for this, been waiting to watch it while doing my plates. Btw I found one fail video for Tori. Do you still need it? Sorry it took more time to find one, I’m bad at determining flats and sharps not unless they’re too obvious.
Yesssss, can you link me? Is fine don't worry!
My only problem with TK is her nasal tone. Her riffs are STELLAR, her agility is really impressive and she sings with so much ease it’s outrageous. But I can’t quite appreciate the nasality in her voice. It’s like a watered-down version of Kristin Chenoweth 😵💫
u guys are always complaining, back then on 2015-2018, tori's voice was so dark & chesty, in 2019-2021, she was into that nasally tone for gaining ease, nowadays she sounds great, the vocal sounds rounded & light at the same time
@@danjulianoIts just biasness at this point
@@grandeflamesbutera3949 Right. They be using that to degrade our queens.
Tori is the only person to come close to Mariah vocally, if anyone it’s gotta be her doing the biopic
This video is about vocal skill butttt Preference wise, Mariah’s tonal quality wins out, Her timbre, tonality and musicality for me is head and shoulders above Tori, Again that’s just preference! Both are vocal queens! Great video!
Mariah Carey BY FAR. Superior vocal and musical talent. Not only is her sound production much more optimal, she's also a far more intelligent vocal musician.
Mariah all day. Her range, tone is so soothing.
Correct me if I’m wrong but to y’all saying they’re tied in upper belts… I have NEVER seen Tori Kelly support a belt above Eb5/E5 live… Mariah has supported up to G5. Not only that but the quality of Mariah’s upper belts are MUCH thicker and she can ACTUALLY resonate extraordinarily well in them, something Tori can’t rlly do. So the only reason yall put Tori above Mariah for upper belts is because she has gone above G5 live multiple times (which Mariah doesn’t rlly do) yet all of those notes are almost ALWAYS strained… Same for agility, they might be on par in terms of riffs and runs but agility isn’t JUST riffs and runs, ya’ll forget transitions & register flips, staccato, and all these other things also are in the agility department, to which Mariah IS superior at.
@BaddieRiah Y'all and this word "support"....💀💀💀 Tori has more ease in her upper belts than Mariah. Mariah does not has ACTUAL resonance in her upper belts, and she is NOT the queen of F#5s. Tori is actually the queen of F#5s. Mariah can't even sustain an F#5 belt for her life.💀💀💀 Tori has WAYYY more ease in sustaining upper belts.🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️ And she has more ease now due to lightening her belts, something that Mariah couldn't do.🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️
Mariah was never consistent above Eb5 in her prime...
@@AnanastygirlTHANK YOU!💯💯💯
@@randall4528Please,go and watch her singing in Make it happen in 1995 MSG, vanishing in 1993 MSG, even if it's over Grammy's 1992, vision of love MSG 1995,I"ll be there there Acapella 1992, and let's see what if you are saying is true lol, Also Mariah singing emotions in 1992 Des Connor.
@JesseAtataAre you serious?!💀💀💀 Mariah has never been consistent above Eb5 in her prime even in the Daydream era when she has ease in her upper belts.
Para mí gusto prefiero a Tori Kelly😂❤🎉 la amo
Lows: Tori (I prefer Mariah's lows tho. She can create a very masculine sound down there, especially on GMA 1990. But Tori I suppose are "safer" lows)
Mids: Mariah (Tori's are too thin and whinny, sounds like somebody is pinching her nose. Mariah's mid belts had far more CORE, and foundation, especially in 1994).
Uppers: TIE but not really... Mariah wins tbh (Tori's are more effortless, but NOT from the CORE... It's mostly mixed in M2. Mariah's upper notes are actually belted (M1), it peaked in 1994. Those are COREFUL upper belts. But I think the safer way to do those high notes are thru the M2 mix or mask. Tori be sounding like she singing thru her nose).
Head Voice: Both are weak, but Tori wins.
Mariah wins overall, bc at her vocal peak. Her voice created far more COREFUL resonance, richness & depth. It's not about range it's about the RICHNESS and DEPTH of the voice quality.
Tori is a GREAT singer tho. Agility is tie. Mariah's agility (at her best) was very coreful. Tori's best agility is mostly in the mix or heady mix. Tori's more smooth, but Mariah's more foundational. I'd say tie.
@Sttephy30 I'm sorry, but heady mix doesn't exist. Plus, Tori Kelly is belting 80% of the time.
@ She’s not really belting. Most of her uppers are in M2
@@Sttephy30 She is mostly belting her upper 5th octave.💀💀💀
@ No, she’s mixing, heavily. Those uppers have little to no core attached. They’re clearly in M2. It’s the same thing Ariana Grande does.
@Sttephy30 You clearly don't know Tori's technique.💀💀💀 Tori is a full belter, and she only use mixed voice above G#5.
On tone alone Mariah wins. But kelly is great too.
5:30 what is the name of the song plss
Shine on
It's not @@GuhTorrez
underneath the stars
Underneath the stars
Man, they need to do a song together!
Mariah Carey is so angelic ❤❤❤
G#3 - Mariah
G3 - Mariah
F#3 - Tori
F3 - Tori
E3 - Tori
Eb3 - tie
D3 - Tori!
C#3 - Mariah!
C3 - Tori!
B2 - Mariah
Bb2 - Mariah
G#4 - Mariah
A4 - tie
Bb4 - Mariah!
Bb4 - Tori!
B4 - Mariah
B4 - Mariah
C5 - Mariah! HER RESONANCE!
C5 - Mariah
C#5 - Mariah!
C#5 - Tori! RESONANCE!
D5 - Tori
D5 - tie
Eb5 - Mariah
Eb5 - Tori
E5 - Mariah
E5 - Mariah! LOVE THAT GROWL!
F5 - tie
F5 - tie
F#5 - Tori
F#5 - Mariah!
G5 - Mariah
G5 - Mariah
F5 - Tori
F#5 - Tori
G5 - Mariah
G#5 - tie
A5 - Tori
Bb5 - Tori
B5 - Tori
C6 - Tori
C#6 - Tori
D6 - Tori
E6 - Tori
F6 - Mariah
F#6 - tie
G6 - tie
G#6 - Mariah
A6 - Mariah
Bb6 - Mariah
C7 - Tori
C#7 - Mariah
Mariah - 32
Tori - 28
TWO VOCAL BEASTS!
It's hard to compare 2 top notch vocalists of diff generations especially when one is current!
Coz of the obvious unavoidable biases.
I'd say Tori is yet to reach her prime she just keeps improving. And for me Daydream Mariah is the best possible vocalist one can dream of being in this genre!
That being said,
Lows: Tie (I mean Mariah is a natural But Tori has exceptionally developed this part of her voice)
Mid-Belts: TIE (They're perfect)
Upper Belts: Daydream Mariah will always be my favourite.
BUT Tori these days is hitting G#5/A5 like anything so...quality goes to mariah but quantity to Tori.
Head: I think Tori, Mariah never focused here.
WHISTLES: Mariah Duh (Tori is developing this as well 😅)
Agility:
Consistency: Tori
Transitions: Mariah
Speed: Tori (Prime Mariah Ties this though)
Studio Creativity: Mariah Hands Down!
Live Creativity: Tori (By little margin)
Pitch: Tori
Complexity: TIE
Tone: In Most songs Tori sounds beautiful/perfect/angelic. But MARIAH will always have the most beautiful tone ever, for me. (For this genre)
Overall: Pheww, They are similar yet very different and I'd say to each one their own!! Tori Kelly is making Mariah Carey roud at the end of day!
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Mariah❤❤❤❤❤❤
In My Opinion:
G#3 - Tie
G3 - Tori
F#3 - Tori
F3 - Mariah
E3 - Tori
Eb3 - Mariah
D3 - Tie
C#3 - Tori
C3 - Tori
B2 - Mariah
Bb2 - Mariah
G#4 - Tori
A4 - Tie
Bb4 - Mariah
B4 - Mariah
C5 - Tori
C#5 - Tie
D5 - Tori
Eb5 - Tori
E5 - Mariah
F5 - Tori
F#5 - Tori
G5 - Tie
F5 - Tori
F#5 - Mariah
G5 - Tori
G#5 - Tie
A5 - Tori
Bb5 - Tie
B5 - Tori
C6 - Tori
C#6 - Tie
D6 - Mariah
E6 - Mariah
F6 - Mariah
F#6 - Tori
G6 - Tori
G#6 - Mariah
A6 - Tie
Bb6 - Mariah
C7 - Tie
C#7 - Mariah
Mariah carey 👑
She should be the one to do the Mariah movie! She is a sing writer as well on top of being a beautiful emotive singer. She just has to get her tens from Mariah first 😉
Mariah
Shouldve done f#2 to f#8 if yk what i mean 😏
You trynna embarrass Kelly lmao
then add some G#5 / A5 belted notes
@ you thought you ate Mc could belt that high she choses not to to preserve her one and In a billion treasure voice 🥰
@@Mommyyriah or she couldn't do it live🤣
@@MommyyriahAs much as I love Mariah, I don’t think she’s ever LIVE belted any G#5s/A5s you say she’s tryna preserve her voice yet she’s been going above and out of her limits since the start of her career! And already had a damaged voice with nodules please be so fr!
May I have the video link to Tori's A4 please
Love both but Mariah is top top tier. Tori isn't far behind.
I just feel like they’re two iconic legends and musicians that you just can’t compare. Two rightfully earned and deserved legends!! I have nothing but respect for the two!!
Ditto!
I will never forgive you guys for throwing around the words 'icon' and 'legend' to the point where they have lost their meanings. Mariah Carey? ABSOLUTELY a legend.
Tori Kelly? How? How is she a musical icon and a legend LMAOOO Of course you'd say something so false. Very on brand of you.
@arachnidlupus7625 How about you stop discrediting Tori?💀💀💀 She is a stronger vocalist than Mariah!💀💀💀
@@randall4528 In your mind? Yeah, sure. In reality? Nope.
@arachnidlupus7625 No, it's reality! Tori is a stronger vocalist than Mariah!💀💀💀 You Mariah stans are TRULY something else!💀💀💀
one of them sounds like a chipmunk version of the other
I love Mariah, but i hate Hailey Kalel bullying her on her shorts. 😿
*Low Notes*
G#3/G3: Tori
F#3-E3: Mariah
Eb3: Tori
D3/C#3: Mariah
C3: Tori
B2/Bb2: Mariah
*Belted Notes*
G#4: Tori
A4-B4: Mariah
C5: Tori
C#5: Mariah
D5-E5: Tori
F5-G5: Mariah
*Upper Register*
F5/F#5: Tori
G5: Mariah
G#5-C#6: Tori
D6: Mariah
E6: Tori
F6/F#6: Mariah
G6: Tori
G#6: Mariah
A6: Tori
Bb6: Mariah
C7/C#7: Mariah
Mariah: 22 semitones
Tori: 20 semitones
Mariah wins 🎉
Lows: Tori is more consistent down there, but Mariah has some great moments. I'll give it to Tori.
Mids: Tori has more volume, Mariah has better resonance, I'll give to Mariah.
Upper belts: Mariah at her best was better than Tori up there, I'll give it to Mariah.
Head voice: Neither have well developed head voices. I prefer Mariah's tone up there, so Mariah.
Whistle: obviously Mariah
I'm gonna ruffle some feathers here, but Tori is overrated imo. She's great by today's standards, but is nowhere near the all time greats like people make her out to be. I also personally find her tone to be quite unpleasant.
@joshuarexrode8533 Tori is not overrated.💀💀💀 Just because her tone isn't pleasant to you doesn't mean that she's overrated.💀💀💀 Honestly, Tori has more ease than Mariah in the upper belts.🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️
Thanks for sharing the unfiltered truth!
She is definitely an impressive vocalist but at her best, Mariah in her prime is still undoubtedly stronger. We saw her have a hard time with Vision of Love and even We Belong Together, which is from Mariah after her prime.
As for the tone, that is exactly what Simon was referring to but many are taking it as he said she is bad singer.
idk about you but ive never seen anyone put tori on the same level as the vocal trinity, adele on the other hand... lots of delusional ppl😥now what im about to say might trigger some, but tori is more fitting for the title of mariah's daughter than ariana
@@gleamingtwinklingandsoinviting Honestly, Tori Kelly is on the same level as the vocal trinity, but Adele, I don't agree.
Mariah has a God given talent that she's grateful for. The other lady's thing is something different.
Don't try to shade Tori Kelly, because she is a great vocalist
@JesseAtata not on Mariah's level. we can't even compare the two.
What are you on about? Mariah is a notoriously difficult diva, with an obviously fragile ego despite her undeniable talent and attractiveness, whereas Tori has always surprised by her humility, kindness and generosity. And if we're involving God in there too, Tori is a women of faith, whereas Mariah is more of a nominal/cultural believer. The voice question is one thing, but in terms of life, I know the one who's healthy, and the one who's questionable...
@@ambergris5705 Calm down Karen. I was just stating the fact. Try listening to Mariah's Fly Like A Bird, her worship of God is real here
@@burburchacha 😂😂 I love how you're calling me a Karen expecting it to have a calming effect
I mean, I would love to be wrong on Mariah, but I don't see the fruits of a deep faith in her behaviour unfortunately. I do see them in Tori, but I might be wrong of course, it's difficult to assess things like this from a distance. But I will give the song a listen for sure, thanks for the recommendation. Just next time try to not criticise artists you don't know enough...
Am i the only one who finds Mariah's tone unpleasant especially her riffing style? I just can't listen to her riffs and i am addicted to riffs
Yes, you are
@fernando_alfradique Some of you almost worship her like she's flawless and it's crazy lol
@@addd9936 Right!💯💯💯 You Mariah stans are SOOOOOO delusional!
can u clarify what about mariah’s riffing style you don’t like? that’s a very unique thing to say
@archangellic idk how to explain it but it's the way she executes her riffs and runs and her tone combined.