Duellist's Prerogative actually does NOT allow the bonus-action attack if you're using a shield. If you want a consistent BA attack while using a shield, you need Belm. This is also noted in the wiki.
To be fair, pretty much everything else in the game that requires only a one-handed (non-versatile) weapon _does_ allow for you to have a shield in your off-hand, so it'd be easy to assume the same for Duellist's Prerogative if you missed the note in the wiki. I always think of it like a DM who lets you get away with fun stuff for common weapons, but has stringent rules around legendary weapons.
Markoheshkir is actually obtainable before the boss fight. You do have to speak with him, but you don't have to fight him immediately. After the dialouge you can go wherever you'd like in the area and pick up the staff or other items.
deception - " is dead. i killed her". He runs off to cry ("ruminate")...then you have free reign of the place.... I didn't need boss' gear, so he's still "ruminating" his eyes out...
You don't even have to speak to Lorokhan to raid the vault. You just pick the locked door to the left of the blue portal and go in the back door. Like a true "back door bandito." 🤣
Man the way you talk about this game and the build potential in all of your spell and item tier lists makes me really want to see some gameplay from all of these cool strats.
I've recorded my full golden dice run where I completed the entire run with only seven long rests. I will post the full run and am currently making a video to explain the builds I used and breakdown some boss fights. Hopefully that will give you an idea of how I play.
Probably better to have that gameplay youre discussing with each weapon showcased In the video. A static image from the wiki is so lazy and unengaging.
@@MrThaumaturgical It'd hugely increase the amount of time and editing each video would take, ultimately for something that people are probably just listening to while actually playing the game themselves or just doing something else.
Sword of Chaos + the Broodmother's Necklace + that Tadpole ability that does 1d4 psychic damage to both you and the enemy= 2d4 extra damage. Taste the rainbow!
True Strike Riposte is effectively a riposte that gives you advantage when it connects, it doesn't give extra bonus damage from something like superiority die. It costs a reaction just like riposte, but doesn't cost anything else. If you have Bhaalist's armor you effectively get a riposte that does double damage through Aura of Murder and then use the advantage to do something like sneak attack...which typically doesn't matter when you almost always kill the thing you riposted. When Crimson Mischief is in the mainhand, you get 7 extra piercing damage when attacking with advantage, plus an extra 1d4 on enemies with less than 50% HP. With the advantage off of a true strike riposte, you add more than a 2d6 onto a sneak attack that gets double damage from aura of murder. The combination of two weapons absolutely slays. I've ended a comedic number of fights because something stupid enough attacked Astarion and he one-shot them with TSR. It's the only time True Strike is worth it, because you don't even have to actively cast it.
When you covered Bloodthirst, you said you didn’t want to say who had it to avoid spoilers while the wiki page on screen says “Bloodthirst is a legendary dagger wielded by-“ in the very first line
I am playing Wyll as a 10 Lore Bard/1 Fighter/1 Wiz with Duelist's Prerogative and Fire Accuity. It's nice to be able to use cutting words every turn and still have a reaction to Counterspell, and having a rapier and no shield just fits Wyll so well :). The bonus action attack comes in handy, especially with Eldrich Blast from Magical Secrets + Ring of Arcane Synergy.
I don't think its good. In terms of damage its worse than Deadshot. Mostly what it offers is Haste, and that isn't special at this point of the game. I've never noticed its lethargic free, because I practically never drop concentration in Act 3.
@@Aestus_RPGThe dead shot doesn’t really do any noticeably more damage minus the extra crits. I open up with Mael bolt ability and that makes you do an additional 1d4 radiant damage on attacks. You can stack it with divine favor which does the same thing so 2d4. Using on a bard with slashing flourish you get an extra 1d8 to attack plus 2d4 radiant for each arrow and it’s two per flourish.. thing shreds
I think duelists prerogative is essentially putting the swashbuckler rogue subclass into the game, and because of that I think it is meant to be used similarly. That would just be the have so much movement you force enemies to dash instead of attack, and have disadvantage on attacking your Allies if they try.
Zephyr flash on the Nyrulna was able to multi hit the dragon (perhaps it has multiple hitboxes?) and I had used channel divinity on my tempest cleric. The dragon went from half HP to dead from taking multiple instances of max damage. I do not assume this was intended, but it felt like the Borderlands 2 skill B0re.
Dueller's Perogative, in my opinion, is most suited for a certain monk builds. By leaving your off-hand empty, it allows a monk a lot of flexibility around damage and attack types. I think there might be better uses for a monk's main hand on some OP builds, but I found it to work nicely for the little time you get it before the end of the game.
The duellist's prerogative is a really interesting weapon, I'd say a battle master fighter/college of swords bard multiclass would be good through the combination of riposte and defensive flourish and having 2 reactions, the bonus action attack also allows you to still be able to attack 3 times in a turn without the fighters improved extra attack allowing for multiclassing, 6 or 7 fighter levels for the extra feat at lvl 6 or extra battlemaster dice and manoeuvres at lvl 7, 5 levels in bard will let you restore bardic inspiration on short rests for the flourishes and give you access to 3rd lvl spells, by focusing more on ac you basically become a tank capable of dealing damage and supporting the party or ccing enemies with bard spells(which works really well with the band of the mystic scoundrel and the arcane acuity helmet). You could also go 1 lvl in wizard instead of 7 fighter for the scroll scribing and spells like shield, haste and the like which up your versatility. Sorry for the huge comment credit for the build goes to Stealth on YT.
The two counterspells is a thing. I built a dual wielder bardadin but this looked so good I had to try it. Went into House of Grief without another wizard/sorcerer/warlock and since I couldn’t run around and smite people, being able to counterspell 2 attempts at enemy darkness was huge.
I thought of a crit fishing build some time ago, never tried it, but here goes maybe one you good people will. It revolves around Astarion taking 4 lvls Assassin Rogue, 3 lvls Gloom Stalker Ranger and 5 lvls Champion fighter, giving him Bloodthirst, Under mountain King, Killer's Sweetheart, Risky Ring, Surgeon's and Dead Shot along with Sarevok's helm and the Shade Slayer Cloak so you can crit on 14s. Give him Alert and Sharpshooter, make his fighting style Archery and you can get some pretty fat attacks early in fights from afar while keeping Astarion fairly safe. He will always have advantage because of the Risky Ring, he can paralyse once per long rest because of the amulet and gets two guaranteed crits because of Killer's Sweet heart and Luck of the Far Realms. I am still a bit unsure on armour pieces, but whatever helps with ranged dmg, stealth or crit dmg should do.
@@toddparker514 If you decide to become Bhaal's Unholy Assassin you get access to a vendor that sells you a chest piece that gives you Aura of Murder, making everyone around you vulnerable to Piercing Damage, on top of some gloves that make your crits do additional force damage. Put those two items on top of what I already detailed above and the build is complete. (I did not find any boots that directly help this build, so I just defaulted to giving Astarion Nere's boots, which are some of the best in the game in my opinion. Nothing that directly aids the crit playstyle, but y'know) If you really wanted to take it next level you could also fully upgrade Astarion's Ilithid Skill Tree to get him to proc Cull the Weak when the enemy has like 20 health left, while also making him The Vampire Ascendant, adding an extra 1d10 necrotic to all his attacks. The Risky Ring makes it so he still gets like 90+ chance to hit ranged attacks even in melee range with the Deadshot, which will pay dividends if you have the Aura of Murder activated, doubling your damage. Add a Viciousness pot to increase crit chance with a buff from the Mirror of Loss to your Dex and you will be golden. Also since your Dex will be this high, maybe do not take Alert, but smth else, like a half-feat increasing your Dex by 1 if you need it, Sharpshooter is great tho. Yuanti armour is good, but you do not really need the armour class for this build, it is a very offensive, glass cannon type of thing, I noticed in my last playthrough where I properly tried it, Astarion barely got attacked cause he just killed whatever target posed a threat very quickly. And this was in Honour mode.
If you do laezel’s quest you can trade with voss while he’s in sharess’ caress and youre at a dialogue option or pickpocket him or if you accept raphael’s deal, and you can get a +2 longsword with a 1d4 psychic damage addon, a wrathful smite per long rest, and an additional 1d4 damage to creatures from other planes, specifically githyanki, aberrations (mind flayers and spectators, for example), fiends, and elementals. So basically, every big enemy group in act 3. And you can get it in wyrms crossing, provided you dont let voss leave. The only other major group ALSO has a +2 longsword dedicated to doing extra damage to them, the shapeshifting bhaalists, all those doppelgangers and orin take extra damage from the sword of the emperor, which, if youve played prior games and read the description, is actually the original sword of balduran. The whole basement side moment is insane foreshadowing. So if longswords are your thing, these two are worth noting, as well as the blackguard’s sword which boosts smites by giving a chance to daze the victim as well as extra necrotic damage, perfect for an oathbreaker durge imo.
I am currently on a BG3 break and doing my WOTR Lich run but the BG3 run I am pausing from is a cold/frost caster.... Markoheshkir is invaluable for it.
That rapier gives you an extra reaction. A swords bard at 10th level can get counterspell. Turn off the reaction on the weapon and just use your two reactions for counterspell. Fun.
Duelist's Prerogative sounds like it's intended to be used with the Defensive Duelist feat where you can use your reaction to add your proficiency to your AC just like the shield spell.
Wow, for some reason I thought that Kreshka’s favor just gave you elemental resistance to whatever element you choose. I never knew it gave you free spell casts too!
@@nathanfivecoate5848 Yeah I had seen a lot of people talk about how good it is. And so when I got it in my play through it felt a bit underwhelming compared to the staff of cherished necromancy. But I will definitely use it more on my next play through now that I actually know about the benefits of that ability
I believe that tier list videos do really well with the TH-cam algorithm, whether it’s related to BG3 or any other possible topic like food, memes, sorting algorithms, etc.
you can get copies of deva maces. dual wielding them as a 11lvl pally orc with 1 lvl of fighter for that sweet two weapon fighting , or just 12 pally using the dual wield gloves, sounds good.
i’ve put the dead shot with a spell sniper fire acuity wizards and when you upcast scorching ray, you can expect at least 1 or 2 crits it’s pretty great
when they were a little easier to get, i did a full party of dual wielding Deva Maces - just silly, weird and things die fast. It's not finesse, so just have to have everyone be str based.
Speaking of weapons that you can only get through bugs/exploits, there is of course the good ol' upcasted level 6 permanent Flame Blade which does 5d6 fire damage. You can easily get it through Danton the Druid hireling, though technically any hireling works but Danton is the easiest since he's already a Druid. Just have him cast the Flame Blade spell, then dismiss him entirely (as in get rid of him). When you rehire him, he'll have a permanent version of the Flame Blade that just uses your strength modifier. Sadly, it loses the cool flame VFX when you do this. Anyway, aside from the huge damage since it's a light weapon you can have the Belm in your offhand to attack with the Flame Blade w/ your bonus action. It's a very fun weapon that goes well thematically with a sort of fiery avenger type character, and it also procs the Hat of Fire Acuity so it's great on any melee/caster hybrid like a Bardadin or Sorcadin. Of course it'll struggle with fire resistance/immunity, but the rest of the time it really chews enemies up and spits them out.
Fun fact, if you’re a bard/sorcerer multi class you don’t have to pickpocket the genie to win. Via dialogue, you can call him out for cheating (sorcerer), he’ll say you can’t prove it and offer you another spin, then you can distract him on the next spin (bard) to win.
Markoheshkir is a top top priority for my storm sorc whenever we get to the lower city. Someone else already mentioned, but you dont have to do the fight itself to acquire the item, you can save it for later. That said, for my storm sorc I use the thunder version or the lightning version, the lightning version gives you free casts of Chain lightning and Lightning bolt. With that setup, and the staff passive, you can cast 5 events of chain lightning per long rest without a scroll. Twinning with a sorc is also broken. The other version i used more recently was thw thunder version, which is the only way to get Destructive wave, the thunder/radiant AOE spell only available to Tempest Clerics. No matter your choice, this staff makes the rest of the game a wine tasting party for your caster of choice, absolutely broken.
I know the most common strategy for Nyrulna is to use it as a part of throwing builds, but when paired with the Bhaalist Armour (which makes foes within 2m vulnerable to piercing damage) this becomes the best weapon for your 2handed melee strikers to use from a DPR perspective. Absolutely nuts damage
Well. It's even better if you do both, right? Have someone with Bhaalist armor (and tankiness or thunder resistance) be close to your enemy, then throw nyrulna at them. Or stab them yourself with Bloodthirst, then throw nyrulna. You'll take some damage, but the Issue is that tavern brawler makes all damage riders match the damage type of the thrown weapon, so your entire giant 50 damage throw all gets classified as piercing (+ the extra thunder damage)
I'm in the middle of a Drow Wizard playthrough with my eyes on the Duelist Prerogative, but was thinking of going Enchantment Wizard for the two free reaction charms attempts. Abjuration Wizard sounds like an even more surefire way to get value out of reactions and the Compelled Duel ability tho, ty 🙏
I just got to act 2, I’m an Open Hand Monk and I’ve been using the Cocophany quarterstaff and damn that does a lot, then adding my Unarmed Attacked which I can imbue with either Radiant, Necrotic, or Psychic, so I do even more damage.
Since you included the devas mace: You can get the Flail of the Vortex from air myrmidons very easily. You need to destroy something in the city, the myrmidon will get arrested, sent to prison, and just as for characters, the weapon will be in the chest in front. The Flail of the Vortex has a weapon action, that you can do once per turn, that has a guaranteed stun!
Life essence from The Staff of Cherished Necromancy can also be gained from killing inanimate objects. I like to keep a couple cups and other small items in my bag to gain stacks easily when I’m out adventuring. Arcane acuity works the same way which is how I justify the cheese.
I actually really like the Acid Markoheshkir for Hunger of Hadar. There are a lot of act 3 fights where a single cast of this can nullify a room - especially if you can knock people into it or drop other persistent AOE on top.
the duelist rapier is great on a warlock rogue combo. I particularly like it on ascended astarian. between his bites, and the illithid powers he gets a lot of use out of the bonus actions can attack 3times per turn with this weapon and if you give him the right gear he gets a lot of bonuses from arcane synergy.
I ran the Blightbringer for a while on my Astarion Gloomstalker Assassin on my Honour run. It was fantastic, and I combined it with a bunch of improved crit gear (I also specced him as 5 ranger, 4 rogue, 3 champion fighter) for the improved crit there. I ended up swapping it out for the Deadshot eventually though because even though it was casting slow across entire parties on surprised rounds, I simply prioritise frontloaded damage too much, and Astarion was hitting for 300 damage a turn by the end of the game with the Dead Shot.
@@ironbar2009 Here's the set up, definitely not optimal but he definitely hard carried more than 75% of the game for me. Would have felt comfortable soloing with him. Helm: Covert Cowl (+1 crit chance while obscured) Chest: Armor of Agility Gloves: Craterflesh Gloves (1d4 force damage on crit) Boots: Speedy Lightfeet Rings: Smugglers Ring + Risky Ring Necklace: Surgeons Amulet (Para on crit once per long rest) Cloak: Shade-Slayer Cloak (+1 to crit while hiding) Melee: Knife of the Undermountain King (+1 to crit, reroll a 2) Crimson Mischief (this was mainly for the +7 piercing damage on advantage, I never actually checked to see if it worked as a statstick for bows but if it did then this is insane with the risky ring/deadshot set up) Then like I said I was using the deadshot as the weapon for the build as that reduces the crit chance to critting on a 15, which with advantage from risky ring is just insane. The blightbringer has massive synergy with it, you can inflict slow on a full enemy team if you start with surprised, and can selectively choose to slow or paralyse major targets with a quick dip into Luck of the Far Realms for a guaranteed crit. I ended up valuing the deadshot more because I'm a Divinity player at heart and in that series damage, and specifically frontloaded damage, trumps every other strategy. Can't shake those habits lmao. Just for completions sake my levelling setup was 5 gloomstalker ranger for extra attack, 4 assassin rogue because I value the extra feat super highly and 3 champion for the +1 to crit again. Feat choice is alert + sharpshooter.
Nyruna is awesome. I had it on Laz’hel with radiant boosts and just throwing it a couple times would do huge aoe damage and also single target with triple attack. She carried my whole run
I recently got the deva mace a totally different way. The character that has the deva summoned got arrested, and while I was sneaking out, I found the mace in the chest that stored the rest if my gear. I don't know if it got patched out, but this did happen in my last honor playthrough so it would have to be a recent patch.
38:26 regarding getting the Deva to spawn and attack, you don’t need to use a character that worships a specific god. You can pray/donate money to any of the statues you want, so just pick one that results in the Deva spawning after you rob the church. At least that’s the way it worked for my tav, though he was a barb and so had not preselected any specific god to worship as part of character creation. Not 100% sure if it still allows you to pray to any god if you did already designate a god you worship, but I believe only clerics do that as part of character creation
Have they patched that out? I've never been able to get the Deva to drop its weapon. I kill the Deva and it stays a corpse even after a long rest (with nothing on it).
@@ShermTank7272 I just obtained it fairly recently, maybe two weeks ago at most. It sounds like your game might be bugged if the body is not even disappearing after long rest. Though the mace appearing there after the body disappears is also most likely a bug, so 🤷♂️
@@ShermTank7272 I used this exploit last week to harvest a bunch of Deva Maces and Djinni Scimitars. I had to drag the bodies back to camp to get the weapons. It's possible leaving them in the basement where the chests are may prevent despawning on long rest.
@ShermTank7272 as of patch 5 hotfix 15, you could: 1. Kill Deva in basement 2. Pick up corpse with strong character 3. Open that characters inventory, search "Deva" (it's invisible otherwise and you can't look it up by clicking your weapon slot anymore). Not sure if it still works since I think there has been a few additional hot fixes but worth a try.
Staff of Cherished Necromamcy is even more bugged than that. It counts a "kill" as anything with an HP bar, so you can get Life Essence by destroying barrels or chairs etc.
Challenge to Duel only triggers bleed if the target attacks someone else besides the character using Duellist's Prerogative, not automatically. Its to incentivise the target to fight that character instead of attacking the squishies.
Yes, Bloodthirst + Helldusk Armor + Cloak of Displacement is insane in a dual wield class. You just need to literally throw the character at the enemies and grab some popcorn.
I was rocking Myrulnah on my gwm fighter but ended up giving it to my bear totem, open hand Karlach cause she deals +2 acid +1d4 fire +rage +tavern brawler when thrown and can follow it up with a flurry of blows that deal extra necrotic 😎 now to find a sick sword for my fighter (hes geralt-esque and is currently using the +1d4 to shape changers sword for a certain someone)
The Deva Mace is still obtainable another way! If you summon a Deva and get imprisoned, the guards will stash away all weapons - including the mace - and you can simply loot it from the weapon / evidence box once you escape.
I have not tested it yet, but I think the dwarven thrower might take the slot of best thrown weapon? At least for single target damage on a throw build. It's probably close though and there are advantages to each.
@@Ajatus11 Yeah I'm definitely aware of the Bhaalist armor, I used that with this spear in a run for sure. Personally, I don't think I'll ever use it again because it trivialized the game too much lol, but in that cause any piercing weapon will always win out. One interesting thing about the Dwarven thrower is that it does have more weight for crushing damage when thrown from height too.
@@croket07The thing with the dwarven thrower too is that in order for it to actually be good you have to be, well, a dwarf. And since there are no dwarf companions, unless your Tav happens to be a dwarf it’s a pretty average weapon.
@@hobojoe9717 True, I would be assuming you're building to use the weapon and duergar are one of the best classes in the game too. But it is limiting in that regard.
I haven't tried the thunder hat and didn't even know about the trident, but for what it's worth, I tried the hat of fire acuity along with a fireball, and despite hitting 3 targets with my fireball it only counted as one instance of damage as far as the acuity goes.
Duellists prerogative probably works on a lot of builds, but in my opinion it is the lore bards best weapon simply because of the two reactions a turn. To have two of the best reactions in the game (Cutting Words + Counterspell) available twice a turn is extremely debilitating for enemies. Most enemies, including end game bosses, can’t withstand spells with their saving throws if they are taking the 1d10 penalty from cutting words, and lore bards with that weapon get those twice a turn.
Surprised to not see Gontr Mael on this list. Celestial Haste is amazing since you can't even go Lethargic after it. And at-will Guiding Bolt is insane, especially if you use literally any special arrow with an AoE effect (or, of course, Many Targets).
It just loses to Deadshot for accuracy/crit and Titansring for damage. The guiding bolt has to go through enemy saves and risky ring exists. The haste can be easily replaced by potions, they last shorter but fights hardly ever goes beyond 3 rounds anyway so the lethargy also doesn't matter. Radiant retort fucks with its bonus radiant damage. It's really just a +3 bow most of the time.
@@abednegokurio9244 Risky Ring just helps you. Guiding Bolt helps an ally who attacks after you. Inflicting it as an AoE (special arrows, Volley, ranged Flourish) is even better. It also works with Diadem of Arcane Synergy, so it can keep up with damage in that regard if your spellcasting stat is good.
Deva mace is insane. I was using the orphic hammer and was pretty happy with it, but now I have the deva mace and I think my average hit damage is like 15 points higher lol
For Blightbringer, I suppose there's a Bhaal aspirant that you'll be fighting, and... maybe you end up fighting the Ironhands? Yeah it confused me too.
Should note that Silver Sword of the Astral Plane is by far the best melee weapon for a Githyanki. I can see leaving it off this list because it's only good if you are a Githyanki, but it's easily better than both Sword of Chaos and Balduran's in a Githyanki's hands.
I don't think its that good. Its problem is its a mostly defensive weapon that is a primarily offensive weapon type, which gives it a kind of tension. I honestly prefer Giantslayer, even on my gith builds.
@@Aestus_RPG You could say the same for Sword of Chaos, except Silver Sword is a +3 as opposed to a +2, so it's better on offense just from that. Fewer things resist or nullify psychic damage (from a Gith) than necrotic. And advantage on mental stats (again for a Gith) is better than healing on hits since the former can keep you from being disabled while the latter just offsets damage. CC effects are a bigger threat than damage in Act 3. The Silver Sword's per short-rest stun is also really good and lasts 2 rounds, as opposed to the Balduran's prone attack which is limited on what it prones anyway.
@@tiradegrandmarshal Yes, Sword of Chaos is also mostly defensive, but its more valuable defensively if you build around it and its also much easier to get. SIlver Sword IS better on Githyanki once you get it. The stun attack is really nice, no doubt. To be honest though, I've had runs where I don't even swap out Soulbreaker Greatsword for SIlver Sword, because I value the the initiative more than the saving throws.
The way to get 2 deva's mace (or even more) is to long rest to remove the curse instead of casting Remove Curse. Removing this way causes 2 Devas to spawn per curse removed (works with both long rest or the potion). You can also multiply this by applying the Castigated by Divinity on multiple characters, making 2 Devas spawn for up to every member of your camp, including hirelings. It is a great way to instantly crash your game lmao
Ive thought about doing a battle master build with duelist perogative. Using the goading attack to force eneimes to attack my character and try to get riposte to trigger twice per turn. Figured armor of agility and the cloak of displacement should generate a lot of missed attacks.
The staff of cherished necromancy also grants life essence from destroying inanimate objects. The makes it hard to walk by corpses because why not just create 3 ghouls?
You were right, I was looking forward to this one. Also sad there was no Rhapsody for Scarlet Remittance but compared to arcane acuity plus 3 to save dcs isn't that great
*Unfortunatly patched now* there is a glitch used to get other summon weapons to, you can get dryad staff, fire myrm's scimitar air myrm's flail and water myrm's trident think you can get deva mace the same way to 1. summon the myrm or dryad etc in an area you can go to prison 2. seperate the summon from your party and have them smash random things 3. they'll get the guard dialouge send them to prison 4.pick up the weapon from the evidence chest i got sylvan crook for my druid save doing this lol, it has entangle on hit just posted it incase anyone wants to play about with it, i didn't create the method but there are videos about it on youtube
@@jimking8342 just tested it in the druids grove and you're 100% correct it no longer works thanks for this update I'll re-edit the original comment but keep it up in the hopes someone may post a new method in the future if one is found
The bow you get for defeating the boss inside the foundry is the best bow in the game. It's a +3 with a built in haste that doesn't make you lethargic when it runs out. I always get that for my main archer and if they have the sharpshooter feat then they become death incarnate lol.
@@Aestus_RPG a whole extra attack round available every short rest isn't better than a slight increase to crit that u can get from other items? I mean ok... I don't agree at all, but ok.
@@loonyman83 By the time you get Gontr Mael, you already have plenty of sources of Haste, and it being lethargic free isn't really much of a selling point since losing concentration is so rare in Act 3. Its giving something you don't need because you already have it.
I’ve used the Everburn Blade the whole game on my tiefling oath of Vengeance Paladin only swapping it out to a the moon glave against Raphael because my build was built around burning the fuck out of enemies and he’s fire proof so I needed radiant damage and that whooped his ass. Even fighting Cazador by casting daylight on it and i put him in the coffin in 1 round by having Tav and Karlach who I changed into a fighter cause having my tav, karlach, and Lae-zel all with multiple attacks and with weapons that stack a damage type ends most encounters fast and for the 4th spot I like having Astarion who I make a Fighter/Theif cause having him get 2 attacks and 2 off hand attacks is plus action surge is amazing cause that’s 6 attacks on top of Karlach and lae-zel with their 6 attacks and my Tav with 2 SMITE attacks I tear through encounters pretty easily
Nyrullna on my 22 Strength, drow lady potion, sorry Astarion, Karlach Berserker Throw Build is nuckin futs, although be careful because i accidentally killed a lot of innocent bystanders with that thunder damage
If it's any help, I've used the Blightbringer. It's quite nuts. Needs to go on a crit-fishing archer instead of a CC Acuity-type archer (haven't had a run where both were the same character yet), but just slowing one to tow targets a turn is pretty powerful.
True Strike Riposte sounds good until you remember True Strike requires concentration. You're probably not concentrating on anything major with a dagger wielder but I've lost concentration on my ranger with it.
What about the devotee mace you can get from the house of hope by using hope's once per run divine intervention to make it then disarm her. I've been using it since I got it. Mainly because of its radiant buffs
Regarding Balduran's giantslayer (I guess you knew this but just didn't mention): You don't have to complete Wyll's quest or even have him in your party, if you know where the boss is you can go there whenever. Although as you said the boss is hard, I wouldn't go there at the start of the act on honor mode XD
Well, unless they changed it in one of the patches, you can technically start the conversation with 1(preferably invisible) character, switch to another, loot the sword of the still 'dead' boss, leave, finish the conversation and leave again for a free sword
@Aestus_RPG I thought so, just wanted to make a comment in case someone watching didn't know and wanted the item if Wyll was dead. It wasn't meant to be criticism of the video
Is there a way to equip a throwable along with a sword and shield? I equipped Shart with Viconia’s armaments but I still want to use Shar’s spear, especially since I spec-ed Shart for exclusive melee.
For the Staff of Cherished Necromancy the creature doesn't have to be hostile. I was killing citizens with magic missle after every long rest to charge the staff.
Yeah, I didn't either. I wanted to see how the economy works if you never steal and I ended up missing Nyrulna and Band of the Mystic Scoundrel for it...
You don’t have to pickpocket to get it. My bard was able to accuse him without taking his ring, and I had another character that just bought the ring off him during conversation, although I don’t know whether that’s been patched out because I haven’t done it in awhile.
I find the bonus action attack from duellist's prerogative to be unavailable when using a shield. I assume the bonus crit chance is also disabled. Is this a bug?
The bonus to crit chance only works if your off-hand is free, so it won't work with a shield. My understanding is that the bonus action attack works even when you have something in the off-hand. I tested with a dagger, not a shield, and it worked, but it was a while ago. Maybe its been patched.
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Duellist's Prerogative actually does NOT allow the bonus-action attack if you're using a shield. If you want a consistent BA attack while using a shield, you need Belm. This is also noted in the wiki.
I used Belm as a backup weapon with my Oath of Ancients Pala-Durge when he wasn't using the Shadowblade+Resonance Stone. It was quite good
To be fair, pretty much everything else in the game that requires only a one-handed (non-versatile) weapon _does_ allow for you to have a shield in your off-hand, so it'd be easy to assume the same for Duellist's Prerogative if you missed the note in the wiki.
I always think of it like a DM who lets you get away with fun stuff for common weapons, but has stringent rules around legendary weapons.
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Markoheshkir is actually obtainable before the boss fight. You do have to speak with him, but you don't have to fight him immediately. After the dialouge you can go wherever you'd like in the area and pick up the staff or other items.
deception - " is dead. i killed her". He runs off to cry ("ruminate")...then you have free reign of the place....
I didn't need boss' gear, so he's still "ruminating" his eyes out...
I'm pretty sure you don't even need to talk to the guy
i did this and it broke aylin's AI not sure if this is causation though
You don't even have to speak to Lorokhan to raid the vault. You just pick the locked door to the left of the blue portal and go in the back door. Like a true "back door bandito." 🤣
Man the way you talk about this game and the build potential in all of your spell and item tier lists makes me really want to see some gameplay from all of these cool strats.
I've recorded my full golden dice run where I completed the entire run with only seven long rests. I will post the full run and am currently making a video to explain the builds I used and breakdown some boss fights. Hopefully that will give you an idea of how I play.
@@Aestus_RPG I would love to see that, sounds awsome!!
Probably better to have that gameplay youre discussing with each weapon showcased In the video. A static image from the wiki is so lazy and unengaging.
@@MrThaumaturgical It'd hugely increase the amount of time and editing each video would take, ultimately for something that people are probably just listening to while actually playing the game themselves or just doing something else.
Sword of Chaos + the Broodmother's Necklace + that Tadpole ability that does 1d4 psychic damage to both you and the enemy= 2d4 extra damage. Taste the rainbow!
True Strike Riposte is effectively a riposte that gives you advantage when it connects, it doesn't give extra bonus damage from something like superiority die. It costs a reaction just like riposte, but doesn't cost anything else.
If you have Bhaalist's armor you effectively get a riposte that does double damage through Aura of Murder and then use the advantage to do something like sneak attack...which typically doesn't matter when you almost always kill the thing you riposted.
When Crimson Mischief is in the mainhand, you get 7 extra piercing damage when attacking with advantage, plus an extra 1d4 on enemies with less than 50% HP.
With the advantage off of a true strike riposte, you add more than a 2d6 onto a sneak attack that gets double damage from aura of murder. The combination of two weapons absolutely slays. I've ended a comedic number of fights because something stupid enough attacked Astarion and he one-shot them with TSR.
It's the only time True Strike is worth it, because you don't even have to actively cast it.
When you covered Bloodthirst, you said you didn’t want to say who had it to avoid spoilers while the wiki page on screen says “Bloodthirst is a legendary dagger wielded by-“ in the very first line
You don't even need to fight Loroakkan to get Markoheskir, you can just drop down into his area and yoink it.
I am playing Wyll as a 10 Lore Bard/1 Fighter/1 Wiz with Duelist's Prerogative and Fire Accuity. It's nice to be able to use cutting words every turn and still have a reaction to Counterspell, and having a rapier and no shield just fits Wyll so well :). The bonus action attack comes in handy, especially with Eldrich Blast from Magical Secrets + Ring of Arcane Synergy.
Ah, Balduran's Giantslayer
AKA Giant Lae'zel kills the red dragon in the final battle in a single round.
Gontr Mael is great. 5-turn lethargic free Haste, stacks with callous glow ring, guiding bolt procs a lot to brand targets.
I don't think its good. In terms of damage its worse than Deadshot. Mostly what it offers is Haste, and that isn't special at this point of the game. I've never noticed its lethargic free, because I practically never drop concentration in Act 3.
@@Aestus_RPG Fair enough. Its also locked behind a super annoying quest if you want to save the Gondians.
At-will Guiding Bolt also works very nicely with Diadem of Arcane Synergy if you happen to have a good spellcasting stat.
@@prkeene No it isn't. There is nothing stopping your from just killing the boss that has it right away.
@@Aestus_RPGThe dead shot doesn’t really do any noticeably more damage minus the extra crits. I open up with Mael bolt ability and that makes you do an additional 1d4 radiant damage on attacks. You can stack it with divine favor which does the same thing so 2d4. Using on a bard with slashing flourish you get an extra 1d8 to attack plus 2d4 radiant for each arrow and it’s two per flourish.. thing shreds
Duelists Prerogative was what i used on my lore bard tav, two reactions per round means two uses of cutting words, plus I couldnt use a shield anyway
2 cutting words, 2 counter spells. It's kind of insane how many fights this alone shuts down.
I think duelists prerogative is essentially putting the swashbuckler rogue subclass into the game, and because of that I think it is meant to be used similarly. That would just be the have so much movement you force enemies to dash instead of attack, and have disadvantage on attacking your Allies if they try.
Zephyr flash on the Nyrulna was able to multi hit the dragon (perhaps it has multiple hitboxes?) and I had used channel divinity on my tempest cleric. The dragon went from half HP to dead from taking multiple instances of max damage. I do not assume this was intended, but it felt like the Borderlands 2 skill B0re.
Dueller's Perogative, in my opinion, is most suited for a certain monk builds. By leaving your off-hand empty, it allows a monk a lot of flexibility around damage and attack types. I think there might be better uses for a monk's main hand on some OP builds, but I found it to work nicely for the little time you get it before the end of the game.
The duellist's prerogative is a really interesting weapon, I'd say a battle master fighter/college of swords bard multiclass would be good through the combination of riposte and defensive flourish and having 2 reactions, the bonus action attack also allows you to still be able to attack 3 times in a turn without the fighters improved extra attack allowing for multiclassing, 6 or 7 fighter levels for the extra feat at lvl 6 or extra battlemaster dice and manoeuvres at lvl 7, 5 levels in bard will let you restore bardic inspiration on short rests for the flourishes and give you access to 3rd lvl spells, by focusing more on ac you basically become a tank capable of dealing damage and supporting the party or ccing enemies with bard spells(which works really well with the band of the mystic scoundrel and the arcane acuity helmet). You could also go 1 lvl in wizard instead of 7 fighter for the scroll scribing and spells like shield, haste and the like which up your versatility. Sorry for the huge comment credit for the build goes to Stealth on YT.
Duelist's prerogative is fantastic with lore bard. You can use two cutting words or counterspells per turn
@@yeassttdidn't even think of double counterspell I don't think there are scrolls of counterspell but it would be sick on to scribe it for this build
The two counterspells is a thing. I built a dual wielder bardadin but this looked so good I had to try it.
Went into House of Grief without another wizard/sorcerer/warlock and since I couldn’t run around and smite people, being able to counterspell 2 attempts at enemy darkness was huge.
@@davidrainhohkbard learns counterspell
Valor bard 🕺🏽
I thought of a crit fishing build some time ago, never tried it, but here goes maybe one you good people will.
It revolves around Astarion taking 4 lvls Assassin Rogue, 3 lvls Gloom Stalker Ranger and 5 lvls Champion fighter, giving him Bloodthirst, Under mountain King, Killer's Sweetheart, Risky Ring, Surgeon's and Dead Shot along with Sarevok's helm and the Shade Slayer Cloak so you can crit on 14s. Give him Alert and Sharpshooter, make his fighting style Archery and you can get some pretty fat attacks early in fights from afar while keeping Astarion fairly safe. He will always have advantage because of the Risky Ring, he can paralyse once per long rest because of the amulet and gets two guaranteed crits because of Killer's Sweet heart and Luck of the Far Realms.
I am still a bit unsure on armour pieces, but whatever helps with ranged dmg, stealth or crit dmg should do.
Yaunti armor is great full dex bonus for med armor I use it on my rogue build and have a 24 ac plus the displa event cloak I very rarely get hit
@@toddparker514 If you decide to become Bhaal's Unholy Assassin you get access to a vendor that sells you a chest piece that gives you Aura of Murder, making everyone around you vulnerable to Piercing Damage, on top of some gloves that make your crits do additional force damage. Put those two items on top of what I already detailed above and the build is complete. (I did not find any boots that directly help this build, so I just defaulted to giving Astarion Nere's boots, which are some of the best in the game in my opinion. Nothing that directly aids the crit playstyle, but y'know) If you really wanted to take it next level you could also fully upgrade Astarion's Ilithid Skill Tree to get him to proc Cull the Weak when the enemy has like 20 health left, while also making him The Vampire Ascendant, adding an extra 1d10 necrotic to all his attacks.
The Risky Ring makes it so he still gets like 90+ chance to hit ranged attacks even in melee range with the Deadshot, which will pay dividends if you have the Aura of Murder activated, doubling your damage. Add a Viciousness pot to increase crit chance with a buff from the Mirror of Loss to your Dex and you will be golden. Also since your Dex will be this high, maybe do not take Alert, but smth else, like a half-feat increasing your Dex by 1 if you need it, Sharpshooter is great tho.
Yuanti armour is good, but you do not really need the armour class for this build, it is a very offensive, glass cannon type of thing, I noticed in my last playthrough where I properly tried it, Astarion barely got attacked cause he just killed whatever target posed a threat very quickly. And this was in Honour mode.
Discovered your channel in the last few months, so this felt right on time. Thanks for the great content, by far my favorite BG3 channel.
If you do laezel’s quest you can trade with voss while he’s in sharess’ caress and youre at a dialogue option or pickpocket him or if you accept raphael’s deal, and you can get a +2 longsword with a 1d4 psychic damage addon, a wrathful smite per long rest, and an additional 1d4 damage to creatures from other planes, specifically githyanki, aberrations (mind flayers and spectators, for example), fiends, and elementals. So basically, every big enemy group in act 3. And you can get it in wyrms crossing, provided you dont let voss leave. The only other major group ALSO has a +2 longsword dedicated to doing extra damage to them, the shapeshifting bhaalists, all those doppelgangers and orin take extra damage from the sword of the emperor, which, if youve played prior games and read the description, is actually the original sword of balduran. The whole basement side moment is insane foreshadowing.
So if longswords are your thing, these two are worth noting, as well as the blackguard’s sword which boosts smites by giving a chance to daze the victim as well as extra necrotic damage, perfect for an oathbreaker durge imo.
I am currently on a BG3 break and doing my WOTR Lich run but the BG3 run I am pausing from is a cold/frost caster.... Markoheshkir is invaluable for it.
Dual-wielding Markoheshkir and Mourning Frost is even better!
@@JosieJOK That is exactly my set-up in fact!
That rapier gives you an extra reaction. A swords bard at 10th level can get counterspell. Turn off the reaction on the weapon and just use your two reactions for counterspell. Fun.
Duelist's Prerogative sounds like it's intended to be used with the Defensive Duelist feat where you can use your reaction to add your proficiency to your AC just like the shield spell.
Wow, for some reason I thought that Kreshka’s favor just gave you elemental resistance to whatever element you choose. I never knew it gave you free spell casts too!
Markoheshkir is my favorite staff
@@nathanfivecoate5848 Yeah I had seen a lot of people talk about how good it is. And so when I got it in my play through it felt a bit underwhelming compared to the staff of cherished necromancy. But I will definitely use it more on my next play through now that I actually know about the benefits of that ability
@@hobojoe9717 I just finished a run where gale dual wielded markoheshkir and the necromancy staff and it was beyond overpowered
I believe that tier list videos do really well with the TH-cam algorithm, whether it’s related to BG3 or any other possible topic like food, memes, sorting algorithms, etc.
Yep, tier list videos or "Top 20" lists are get great exposure.
you can get copies of deva maces. dual wielding them as a 11lvl pally orc with 1 lvl of fighter for that sweet two weapon fighting , or just 12 pally using the dual wield gloves, sounds good.
i’ve put the dead shot with a spell sniper fire acuity wizards and when you upcast scorching ray, you can expect at least 1 or 2 crits it’s pretty great
Markoheshkir is not locked behind a boss; you can get it through passing an arcane check on a lever below said boss :)
I shouldn't have said "locked." Just kinda slipped out.
Yo man, thanks for putting these videos out. Really really appreciate what you do for the community.
when they were a little easier to get, i did a full party of dual wielding Deva Maces - just silly, weird and things die fast. It's not finesse, so just have to have everyone be str based.
DEUS VULT EVERYTHING!!!
Speaking of weapons that you can only get through bugs/exploits, there is of course the good ol' upcasted level 6 permanent Flame Blade which does 5d6 fire damage.
You can easily get it through Danton the Druid hireling, though technically any hireling works but Danton is the easiest since he's already a Druid. Just have him cast the Flame Blade spell, then dismiss him entirely (as in get rid of him). When you rehire him, he'll have a permanent version of the Flame Blade that just uses your strength modifier. Sadly, it loses the cool flame VFX when you do this. Anyway, aside from the huge damage since it's a light weapon you can have the Belm in your offhand to attack with the Flame Blade w/ your bonus action. It's a very fun weapon that goes well thematically with a sort of fiery avenger type character, and it also procs the Hat of Fire Acuity so it's great on any melee/caster hybrid like a Bardadin or Sorcadin. Of course it'll struggle with fire resistance/immunity, but the rest of the time it really chews enemies up and spits them out.
Love your videos, especially your attempts to not spoil anything despite having most of the spoiler info on the page in front of you
Fun fact, if you’re a bard/sorcerer multi class you don’t have to pickpocket the genie to win. Via dialogue, you can call him out for cheating (sorcerer), he’ll say you can’t prove it and offer you another spin, then you can distract him on the next spin (bard) to win.
Markoheshkir is a top top priority for my storm sorc whenever we get to the lower city. Someone else already mentioned, but you dont have to do the fight itself to acquire the item, you can save it for later.
That said, for my storm sorc I use the thunder version or the lightning version, the lightning version gives you free casts of Chain lightning and Lightning bolt. With that setup, and the staff passive, you can cast 5 events of chain lightning per long rest without a scroll. Twinning with a sorc is also broken.
The other version i used more recently was thw thunder version, which is the only way to get Destructive wave, the thunder/radiant AOE spell only available to Tempest Clerics.
No matter your choice, this staff makes the rest of the game a wine tasting party for your caster of choice, absolutely broken.
I know the most common strategy for Nyrulna is to use it as a part of throwing builds, but when paired with the Bhaalist Armour (which makes foes within 2m vulnerable to piercing damage) this becomes the best weapon for your 2handed melee strikers to use from a DPR perspective. Absolutely nuts damage
Well. It's even better if you do both, right? Have someone with Bhaalist armor (and tankiness or thunder resistance) be close to your enemy, then throw nyrulna at them. Or stab them yourself with Bloodthirst, then throw nyrulna. You'll take some damage, but the Issue is that tavern brawler makes all damage riders match the damage type of the thrown weapon, so your entire giant 50 damage throw all gets classified as piercing (+ the extra thunder damage)
I'm in the middle of a Drow Wizard playthrough with my eyes on the Duelist Prerogative, but was thinking of going Enchantment Wizard for the two free reaction charms attempts. Abjuration Wizard sounds like an even more surefire way to get value out of reactions and the Compelled Duel ability tho, ty 🙏
I just got to act 2, I’m an Open Hand Monk and I’ve been using the Cocophany quarterstaff and damn that does a lot, then adding my Unarmed Attacked which I can imbue with either Radiant, Necrotic, or Psychic, so I do even more damage.
Since you included the devas mace:
You can get the Flail of the Vortex from air myrmidons very easily.
You need to destroy something in the city, the myrmidon will get arrested, sent to prison, and just as for characters, the weapon will be in the chest in front.
The Flail of the Vortex has a weapon action, that you can do once per turn, that has a guaranteed stun!
Nyrulna my beloved.
I've accidently made the build perfectly fitting for this one before getting it in act 3.
Life essence from The Staff of Cherished Necromancy can also be gained from killing inanimate objects. I like to keep a couple cups and other small items in my bag to gain stacks easily when I’m out adventuring. Arcane acuity works the same way which is how I justify the cheese.
I actually really like the Acid Markoheshkir for Hunger of Hadar. There are a lot of act 3 fights where a single cast of this can nullify a room - especially if you can knock people into it or drop other persistent AOE on top.
the duelist rapier is great on a warlock rogue combo. I particularly like it on ascended astarian. between his bites, and the illithid powers he gets a lot of use out of the bonus actions can attack 3times per turn with this weapon and if you give him the right gear he gets a lot of bonuses from arcane synergy.
I ran the Blightbringer for a while on my Astarion Gloomstalker Assassin on my Honour run. It was fantastic, and I combined it with a bunch of improved crit gear (I also specced him as 5 ranger, 4 rogue, 3 champion fighter) for the improved crit there. I ended up swapping it out for the Deadshot eventually though because even though it was casting slow across entire parties on surprised rounds, I simply prioritise frontloaded damage too much, and Astarion was hitting for 300 damage a turn by the end of the game with the Dead Shot.
I honestly think Assassin is an underrated subclass! So many ways to build around the guaranteed crits.
Curious as to what gear you’re running for a crit ranger build.
@@ironbar2009 Here's the set up, definitely not optimal but he definitely hard carried more than 75% of the game for me. Would have felt comfortable soloing with him.
Helm: Covert Cowl (+1 crit chance while obscured)
Chest: Armor of Agility
Gloves: Craterflesh Gloves (1d4 force damage on crit)
Boots: Speedy Lightfeet
Rings: Smugglers Ring + Risky Ring
Necklace: Surgeons Amulet (Para on crit once per long rest)
Cloak: Shade-Slayer Cloak (+1 to crit while hiding)
Melee: Knife of the Undermountain King (+1 to crit, reroll a 2)
Crimson Mischief (this was mainly for the +7 piercing damage on advantage, I never actually checked to see if it worked as a statstick for bows but if it did then this is insane with the risky ring/deadshot set up)
Then like I said I was using the deadshot as the weapon for the build as that reduces the crit chance to critting on a 15, which with advantage from risky ring is just insane. The blightbringer has massive synergy with it, you can inflict slow on a full enemy team if you start with surprised, and can selectively choose to slow or paralyse major targets with a quick dip into Luck of the Far Realms for a guaranteed crit. I ended up valuing the deadshot more because I'm a Divinity player at heart and in that series damage, and specifically frontloaded damage, trumps every other strategy. Can't shake those habits lmao.
Just for completions sake my levelling setup was 5 gloomstalker ranger for extra attack, 4 assassin rogue because I value the extra feat super highly and 3 champion for the +1 to crit again. Feat choice is alert + sharpshooter.
@@99_Elixirreally similar to my build. Here's my question. Did you just go 17 plus hags hair for dex?
@@sambaker1121 that I did 🙂
Nyruna is awesome. I had it on Laz’hel with radiant boosts and just throwing it a couple times would do huge aoe damage and also single target with triple attack. She carried my whole run
I recently got the deva mace a totally different way. The character that has the deva summoned got arrested, and while I was sneaking out, I found the mace in the chest that stored the rest if my gear. I don't know if it got patched out, but this did happen in my last honor playthrough so it would have to be a recent patch.
38:26 regarding getting the Deva to spawn and attack, you don’t need to use a character that worships a specific god. You can pray/donate money to any of the statues you want, so just pick one that results in the Deva spawning after you rob the church. At least that’s the way it worked for my tav, though he was a barb and so had not preselected any specific god to worship as part of character creation. Not 100% sure if it still allows you to pray to any god if you did already designate a god you worship, but I believe only clerics do that as part of character creation
Have they patched that out? I've never been able to get the Deva to drop its weapon. I kill the Deva and it stays a corpse even after a long rest (with nothing on it).
@@ShermTank7272 I just obtained it fairly recently, maybe two weeks ago at most. It sounds like your game might be bugged if the body is not even disappearing after long rest. Though the mace appearing there after the body disappears is also most likely a bug, so 🤷♂️
@@ShermTank7272 I used this exploit last week to harvest a bunch of Deva Maces and Djinni Scimitars. I had to drag the bodies back to camp to get the weapons. It's possible leaving them in the basement where the chests are may prevent despawning on long rest.
@ShermTank7272 as of patch 5 hotfix 15, you could:
1. Kill Deva in basement
2. Pick up corpse with strong character
3. Open that characters inventory, search "Deva" (it's invisible otherwise and you can't look it up by clicking your weapon slot anymore).
Not sure if it still works since I think there has been a few additional hot fixes but worth a try.
Staff of Cherished Necromamcy is even more bugged than that. It counts a "kill" as anything with an HP bar, so you can get Life Essence by destroying barrels or chairs etc.
On Balduran's Giantslayer, I have found Banishment to be an easier spell to utilize for that boss than Globe
Challenge to Duel only triggers bleed if the target attacks someone else besides the character using Duellist's Prerogative, not automatically. Its to incentivise the target to fight that character instead of attacking the squishies.
Yes, Bloodthirst + Helldusk Armor + Cloak of Displacement is insane in a dual wield class. You just need to literally throw the character at the enemies and grab some popcorn.
I was rocking Myrulnah on my gwm fighter but ended up giving it to my bear totem, open hand Karlach cause she deals +2 acid +1d4 fire +rage +tavern brawler when thrown and can follow it up with a flurry of blows that deal extra necrotic 😎 now to find a sick sword for my fighter (hes geralt-esque and is currently using the +1d4 to shape changers sword for a certain someone)
Damn boy you took your sweet time! Been looking forward to your next video
I've been spamming Honour Mode to research my next batch of videos.
@@Aestus_RPGfair enough, keep up the good work!
The Deva Mace is still obtainable another way! If you summon a Deva and get imprisoned, the guards will stash away all weapons - including the mace - and you can simply loot it from the weapon / evidence box once you escape.
I got it by removing curse and summoning the Deva in camp. Killing it, long resting, and bag with the mace spawned
I have not tested it yet, but I think the dwarven thrower might take the slot of best thrown weapon? At least for single target damage on a throw build. It's probably close though and there are advantages to each.
It loses to Nyrulna/Shar's Spear due to the very strong ways to access piercing vulnerability
@@Ajatus11 Yeah I'm definitely aware of the Bhaalist armor, I used that with this spear in a run for sure. Personally, I don't think I'll ever use it again because it trivialized the game too much lol, but in that cause any piercing weapon will always win out. One interesting thing about the Dwarven thrower is that it does have more weight for crushing damage when thrown from height too.
@@croket07The thing with the dwarven thrower too is that in order for it to actually be good you have to be, well, a dwarf. And since there are no dwarf companions, unless your Tav happens to be a dwarf it’s a pretty average weapon.
@@hobojoe9717 True, I would be assuming you're building to use the weapon and duergar are one of the best classes in the game too. But it is limiting in that regard.
@@hobojoe9717 Use Disguise Self instead. Can always cast Seeming from another party member if need be.
I haven't tried the thunder hat and didn't even know about the trident, but for what it's worth, I tried the hat of fire acuity along with a fireball, and despite hitting 3 targets with my fireball it only counted as one instance of damage as far as the acuity goes.
The acuity items feel bugged/inconsistent, I agree. If you use wall of fire, sometimes you get acuity when enemies walk in it, sometimes not.
Duellists prerogative probably works on a lot of builds, but in my opinion it is the lore bards best weapon simply because of the two reactions a turn. To have two of the best reactions in the game (Cutting Words + Counterspell) available twice a turn is extremely debilitating for enemies. Most enemies, including end game bosses, can’t withstand spells with their saving throws if they are taking the 1d10 penalty from cutting words, and lore bards with that weapon get those twice a turn.
Surprised to not see Gontr Mael on this list. Celestial Haste is amazing since you can't even go Lethargic after it. And at-will Guiding Bolt is insane, especially if you use literally any special arrow with an AoE effect (or, of course, Many Targets).
It just loses to Deadshot for accuracy/crit and Titansring for damage. The guiding bolt has to go through enemy saves and risky ring exists. The haste can be easily replaced by potions, they last shorter but fights hardly ever goes beyond 3 rounds anyway so the lethargy also doesn't matter. Radiant retort fucks with its bonus radiant damage. It's really just a +3 bow most of the time.
I don't think Gontr Mael is that good. In terms of damage, it doesn't compete with Deadshot, and the Haste isn't crucial at this point of the game.
@@abednegokurio9244 Risky Ring just helps you. Guiding Bolt helps an ally who attacks after you. Inflicting it as an AoE (special arrows, Volley, ranged Flourish) is even better. It also works with Diadem of Arcane Synergy, so it can keep up with damage in that regard if your spellcasting stat is good.
I love duelist prerogative with my lore bard. With counterspell and class ability, very useful reactions.
You saw my comment! Thank you for making this video, it came out just when I'm getting into act 3 🙏
Deva mace is insane. I was using the orphic hammer and was pretty happy with it, but now I have the deva mace and I think my average hit damage is like 15 points higher lol
I was just thinking what Aestus' next upload was going to be, just in time for my honour mode run hitting Act 3
For Blightbringer, I suppose there's a Bhaal aspirant that you'll be fighting, and... maybe you end up fighting the Ironhands?
Yeah it confused me too.
Would love some vids showing off your builds, especially those built around a specific item or spell
I working on a video that explain the entire team composition I used to get my golden dice.
Sweet 🥳@@Aestus_RPG
It's very easy to stealth past the dilophosauruses and lockpick the chest for Nyrulna using Astarion.
Should note that Silver Sword of the Astral Plane is by far the best melee weapon for a Githyanki. I can see leaving it off this list because it's only good if you are a Githyanki, but it's easily better than both Sword of Chaos and Balduran's in a Githyanki's hands.
I don't think its that good. Its problem is its a mostly defensive weapon that is a primarily offensive weapon type, which gives it a kind of tension. I honestly prefer Giantslayer, even on my gith builds.
@@Aestus_RPG You could say the same for Sword of Chaos, except Silver Sword is a +3 as opposed to a +2, so it's better on offense just from that. Fewer things resist or nullify psychic damage (from a Gith) than necrotic. And advantage on mental stats (again for a Gith) is better than healing on hits since the former can keep you from being disabled while the latter just offsets damage. CC effects are a bigger threat than damage in Act 3. The Silver Sword's per short-rest stun is also really good and lasts 2 rounds, as opposed to the Balduran's prone attack which is limited on what it prones anyway.
@@tiradegrandmarshal Yes, Sword of Chaos is also mostly defensive, but its more valuable defensively if you build around it and its also much easier to get. SIlver Sword IS better on Githyanki once you get it. The stun attack is really nice, no doubt. To be honest though, I've had runs where I don't even swap out Soulbreaker Greatsword for SIlver Sword, because I value the the initiative more than the saving throws.
The way to get 2 deva's mace (or even more) is to long rest to remove the curse instead of casting Remove Curse. Removing this way causes 2 Devas to spawn per curse removed (works with both long rest or the potion). You can also multiply this by applying the Castigated by Divinity on multiple characters, making 2 Devas spawn for up to every member of your camp, including hirelings. It is a great way to instantly crash your game lmao
Doesn't work anymore :(
Ive thought about doing a battle master build with duelist perogative. Using the goading attack to force eneimes to attack my character and try to get riposte to trigger twice per turn. Figured armor of agility and the cloak of displacement should generate a lot of missed attacks.
The staff of cherished necromancy also grants life essence from destroying inanimate objects. The makes it hard to walk by corpses because why not just create 3 ghouls?
You were right, I was looking forward to this one. Also sad there was no Rhapsody for Scarlet Remittance but compared to arcane acuity plus 3 to save dcs isn't that great
*Unfortunatly patched now*
there is a glitch used to get other summon weapons to, you can get dryad staff, fire myrm's scimitar air myrm's flail and water myrm's trident think you can get deva mace the same way to
1. summon the myrm or dryad etc in an area you can go to prison
2. seperate the summon from your party and have them smash random things
3. they'll get the guard dialouge send them to prison
4.pick up the weapon from the evidence chest
i got sylvan crook for my druid save doing this lol, it has entangle on hit just posted it incase anyone wants to play about with it, i didn't create the method but there are videos about it on youtube
Wow, that is absolutely hilarious! I doubt it's intentional but I hope they don't patch it
@@exantiuse497 same here it's definitely not intentional as the myrm weapons have no animation when swung
I think the last patch removed this exploit. Guards won't arrest a summoned dryad or myrmidon, they aggro directly into combat.
@@jimking8342 i tried it the other day i'll use we mods try it in druids grove and update if it doesn't work thanks for the info
@@jimking8342 just tested it in the druids grove and you're 100% correct it no longer works thanks for this update I'll re-edit the original comment but keep it up in the hopes someone may post a new method in the future if one is found
Duellist's Prerogative works great on my Minsc multiclass ranger-rogue-fighter build.
Finally! Been hoping you'd do another one of these types of videos
The bow you get for defeating the boss inside the foundry is the best bow in the game. It's a +3 with a built in haste that doesn't make you lethargic when it runs out. I always get that for my main archer and if they have the sharpshooter feat then they become death incarnate lol.
I don't think it's better than Deadshot.
@@Aestus_RPG a whole extra attack round available every short rest isn't better than a slight increase to crit that u can get from other items? I mean ok... I don't agree at all, but ok.
@@loonyman83 By the time you get Gontr Mael, you already have plenty of sources of Haste, and it being lethargic free isn't really much of a selling point since losing concentration is so rare in Act 3. Its giving something you don't need because you already have it.
I’ve used the Everburn Blade the whole game on my tiefling oath of Vengeance Paladin only swapping it out to a the moon glave against Raphael because my build was built around burning the fuck out of enemies and he’s fire proof so I needed radiant damage and that whooped his ass. Even fighting Cazador by casting daylight on it and i put him in the coffin in 1 round by having Tav and Karlach who I changed into a fighter cause having my tav, karlach, and Lae-zel all with multiple attacks and with weapons that stack a damage type ends most encounters fast and for the 4th spot I like having Astarion who I make a Fighter/Theif cause having him get 2 attacks and 2 off hand attacks is plus action surge is amazing cause that’s 6 attacks on top of Karlach and lae-zel with their 6 attacks and my Tav with 2 SMITE attacks I tear through encounters pretty easily
Nyrullna on my 22 Strength, drow lady potion, sorry Astarion, Karlach Berserker Throw Build is nuckin futs, although be careful because i accidentally killed a lot of innocent bystanders with that thunder damage
Sarevok was one of like two total bosses I actually had a problem with lol
If it's any help, I've used the Blightbringer. It's quite nuts. Needs to go on a crit-fishing archer instead of a CC Acuity-type archer (haven't had a run where both were the same character yet), but just slowing one to tow targets a turn is pretty powerful.
True Strike Riposte sounds good until you remember True Strike requires concentration. You're probably not concentrating on anything major with a dagger wielder but I've lost concentration on my ranger with it.
What about the devotee mace you can get from the house of hope by using hope's once per run divine intervention to make it then disarm her. I've been using it since I got it. Mainly because of its radiant buffs
i'd still like to see your eldritch knight build that would be awesome
Wake up babe, Aestus_RPG just uploaded
Regarding Balduran's giantslayer (I guess you knew this but just didn't mention): You don't have to complete Wyll's quest or even have him in your party, if you know where the boss is you can go there whenever.
Although as you said the boss is hard, I wouldn't go there at the start of the act on honor mode XD
I only mentioned Wyll's quest as a hint for players who want to know how to get the weapon without any spoilers.
Well, unless they changed it in one of the patches, you can technically start the conversation with 1(preferably invisible) character, switch to another, loot the sword of the still 'dead' boss, leave, finish the conversation and leave again for a free sword
@Aestus_RPG I thought so, just wanted to make a comment in case someone watching didn't know and wanted the item if Wyll was dead. It wasn't meant to be criticism of the video
welcome back glad to see a new upload!
Is there a way to equip a throwable along with a sword and shield? I equipped Shart with Viconia’s armaments but I still want to use Shar’s spear, especially since I spec-ed Shart for exclusive melee.
Holy shit. You are back!!!
Was looking forward to this video!
For the Staff of Cherished Necromancy the creature doesn't have to be hostile. I was killing citizens with magic missle after every long rest to charge the staff.
Not sure if it's patched but that staff used to get charges from destroying inanimate objects like pots and crates with a cantrip.
Now for top 10 non weapons :)
I missed the jungle too. I just never pickpocketed first run.
Yeah, I didn't either. I wanted to see how the economy works if you never steal and I ended up missing Nyrulna and Band of the Mystic Scoundrel for it...
You don’t have to pickpocket to get it. My bard was able to accuse him without taking his ring, and I had another character that just bought the ring off him during conversation, although I don’t know whether that’s been patched out because I haven’t done it in awhile.
You don't need to beat the boss to get the Markoheshgir. Just jump or fly down after talking to him.
Thanks for uploading this bro
Duellist's Prerogative does NOT work with a shield. It even says so on the wiki page at the bottom Notes section.
Parts of it do and parts of it don't.
Where is the spooky brain powers tierlist Aestus come on that's how you get those juicy views
I can tell you, I was interested!
I find the bonus action attack from duellist's prerogative to be unavailable when using a shield. I assume the bonus crit chance is also disabled. Is this a bug?
The bonus to crit chance only works if your off-hand is free, so it won't work with a shield. My understanding is that the bonus action attack works even when you have something in the off-hand. I tested with a dagger, not a shield, and it worked, but it was a while ago. Maybe its been patched.
Dwarven thrower is the best thrown weapon single target, not nyrulna, but you’ll need to be a dwarf of use disguise self.
I never said single target. I just said the best thrown weapon.
If Bladesingers were int he game, Duelist's Prerogative would be their top weapon.
"Rapier tank build"... let me introduce you to armor of agathys my man. Make em wet, compel them to duel.
I was making AoA builds for BG3 back in 2021.
@Aestus_RPG I know you're very knowledgeable, was just making a cheeky comment. Love the vids :)
Lol, duelist works great for tank monk combine with the robe that let u used a react to counter attack
Great video, but why are you trying to avoid spoilers (Example 13:45) when first line of the wiki page you show literally states who drops it
TBH, I never assume people watch the videos. I treat my videos like a podcast for the most part.
been waiting to hear about Aestus’s thoughts on Duellists Prerogative
Throwing thunder damage hits allies too, be warned, and npcs. It killed an innocent bystander for me.