Toshiro Vs Halibel EXPLAINED! - #4

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  • @ericrobinson1513
    @ericrobinson1513 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Let’s just say this torshiro never used the ice “dummy” ability again EVER in the anime.

  • @bradleyhall5847
    @bradleyhall5847 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Finally someone gets it people just keep down playing Halibel but she is way stronger then they give her credit

    • @BLACKSTA361
      @BLACKSTA361 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      shes also bad asf

  • @thetranscendent6927
    @thetranscendent6927 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Great video i think this fight is underrated people think the fact harribel is more strong and has more reiatsu doesnt have Any Sense she getting defeated but toshiro is a counter for harribel and plus He get some help with the vizards

    • @Highwaystar31
      @Highwaystar31 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Did toshiro win the fight?

    • @thewarrior8497
      @thewarrior8497 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Highwaystar31 nope, I did

  • @quany5521
    @quany5521 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Hailbel and torshio was a really good matchup for torshio. If hailbel faced off any other captain she would’ve won and if torshio faced any other Espada he would lose

    • @quany5521
      @quany5521 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I don’t think it’s that deep it came down to their ability. Toshio realized that his counters his. The fight would go on and on if Aizen didn’t kill her.

  • @lemondeestloeuvredunenfant4633
    @lemondeestloeuvredunenfant4633 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    In fact, the Hallibell ability can only cancel Toshiro's only because she has "a lot of more" reiatsu than him and so can create more water. Without that, Ice has elemental superiority on water.

  • @ACagedBird364
    @ACagedBird364 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Remember when they kept freezing and thawing out the water they were making more. According to science when water freezes it expands. Therefore when it thaws out there's more. So with they were doing that, they were slowly making more. The winner would've been whoever could freeze or thaw the water at a faster pace

  • @mbh7798
    @mbh7798 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Halibel and Toshiro weren't fighting in the world of the living. Fake Karakura Town is actually in the soul society. They explain it in the anime.

    • @RGA301092
      @RGA301092 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Fake Karakura Town IS in the World of the Living. The pillars switched Fake Karakura (previously in Soul Society) with real Karakura so that now Fake Karakura is in the World of the Living and real Karakura is in Soul Society.

    • @mbh7798
      @mbh7798 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@RGA301092 Oh yh my bad I got mixed up

  • @undertaker9991
    @undertaker9991 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Zack the Espadas numbers signify their rank and strength. Halibel, Starrk, and Barragan are the strongest. Up until Yammy was was revealed to be zero Espada.

  • @lemondeestloeuvredunenfant4633
    @lemondeestloeuvredunenfant4633 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    After a lot of thoughts, I haven't any doubt on that.
    As you said, Ichigo has clearly shown, during his battle with Byakuya that he had the level of a captain.
    The fact the hollow of Ichigo helped him doesn't change that. Ichigo was at least as strong as the first form of Byakuya bankai and as we are shown at several moments Byakuya is at least equal if not superior to Toshiro, so Ichigo bankai is equal or superior to Toshiro
    You spoke about problems of Ichigo with his hollow, and that's good, but you forget an important thing.
    One of main reasons which made Ichigo mess with espadas is the fact he is not able to cut their hierro on all along of the arrancar, except for Yammy at the beginning, during their first fight.
    Despite, Yammy is the tenth espada, Yammy is an adjuchas as Grimmjow and I don't think there is such differences in their hierro resistance.
    I would even say, counting the first four espadas, the hierro resistance is not so far away between all of them.
    Ichigo achieves to cut Yammy's hierro, but after this fight, he begins to lose two important elements because of his hollow, the first is his motivation, murderous instinct or willingness to fight that he begins to get back during his third battle with Grimmjow at the point where he achieves to crush the most powerful attack of the former with just his bankai.
    Desgarron has been crushed by Ichigo bankai without mask. Why ? not because training or because his power has progressed through fights, just because he had get back his "motivation" and this regain of motivation closed him to the old level he had before to have his problems with his hollow.
    In fact, I don't even think this ichigo who crushed Desgaron was still even as powerful as this one who fight Byakuya in Soul Society, notably because his inability yo cut hierro and his speed who is not even close of the speed displayed during his fight with Byakuya.
    He regained the raw power of a captain level fully determined fighter, but he still lacked to regain a fair control of his reiatsu, which handicaped both of them, his speed and his ability to cut through a barrier such that hierro.
    Zommarie has said he was the fastest espada. It wasn't pride and foolishness. he is effectively clearly the fastest. His ability to create speed mirages is a proof of that.
    We can see that in other series like GetBackers with Wang Pore.
    The ability to create speed mirages is an indicator of a character's speed and in Soul Society Arc, against Byakuya, we can see clearly that Ichigo is able to create dozens of speed mirages, which is much more than Sommarie, Soi Fon or even Yoruichi and largely more than Aizen who hasn't shown any speed mirage during his fights.
    To cut through hierro, Ichigo had need at each time to have a raw power more important the so-called resistance, while captains as Toshiro or Kyoraku had not at all need of that.
    Everyone consider that because Kyoraku has defeated Stark, he must be equal and even superior in Shikai to Ichigo bankai vizard, but that's a wrong addition.
    Kyoraku could cut Stark, because he had a better reiatsu control that Ichigo, although his reiatsu was still inferior to Ichigo bankai vizard.
    The difference between Arrancar Arc Ichigo and Toshiro or Kyoraku during Arrancar Arc is the same that Kakashi/Sakura and Naruto in Naruto.
    Ichigo achieves to cut Ulquiorra hierro in sealed form with his mask + bankai, because his sheer force overthrow the resistance of Ulquiorra hierro, while Toshiro or Kyoraku can cut hierro of Top 3 espadas in sealed form without effort or powerful attack, they cut as it was butter and have not need to increase in strength between sealed form and released form, although the hierro resistance must increase as for Ulquiorra.
    That added to the fact he benefited of a surprise effect with vizard diversion place clearly Stark above of him.
    For Hallibell, I do the same analysis, without forget the elemental advantage of Toshiro(Ice beat water when quantity is equal).
    Hallibell clearly crushed Toshiro bankai in sealed form and you recognize yourself that Toshiro bankai is equal to Ichigo bankai who fought in equal level with Ulquiorra sealed in bankai form.
    In speed and raw power, Ichigo was clearly equal to Ulquiorra.
    The only problem who did that Ichigo had to pull out the mask was the hierro resistance of Ulquiorra, one more time,
    so the manner whose Hallibell crushed Toshiro bankai, who is equal to Uchigo in reiatsu and battle power places clearly her at the same level that Ichigo bankai vizard.
    In my mind, I see her able to push Ulquiorra in the same manner whose Ichigo bankai vizard made it with any problem.

  • @magnaz26
    @magnaz26 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    After the Soul Society Arc Ichigo received the Substitute Soul Reaper Badge from the sick captain. Ichigo's power was greatly weakened after that as it is stated that the Badge weakens him by constantly absorbing his power, similar to how Kenpachi's eye patch constantly absorbs his power. This is the reason why, Ichigo just after going to toe with Byakuya and Kenpachi in the SS Arc, then afterwards he so weak that he can't even beat an Espada's Fracction without 1st going Bankai. I think you should dedicate a video to explain how the Substitute Soul Reaper Badge greatly nerfs Ichigo's power, on top of the other 2 nerfs Ichigo was experiencing from his hollow side and his Quincy side. I also believe this is the reason Ichigo's Hollow side was able to restrain him so easily as well.

    • @berserkerjeanne7563
      @berserkerjeanne7563 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Dude...Uhm, Ichigo's Substitute doesn't absorb THAT much energy from him, if it did Ichigo would have commented on feeling weaker than usual. Besides,why would the Soul Society weaken him that much if they just wanna analyse his power heck Ichigo only feels different or weaker when he's in his human body, this is literally in the manga when Ginjo says "Don't find it weird that your powers are always leaking and going out of control when you're in Soul form but you don't feel a thing when you're in your human body ?"

    • @magnaz26
      @magnaz26 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@berserkerjeanne7563
      I was going to write a lengthy comment proving it to you that it did but this guy already did the work for me:
      th-cam.com/video/ugHzWa-qopE/w-d-xo.html
      According to the manga "80%" of Ichigo's power was restricted by the badge as this video evidence proves.

  • @lemondeestloeuvredunenfant4633
    @lemondeestloeuvredunenfant4633 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The filler scene is totally logical and justify. The fact an attack used to defeat Luppy, a Grimmjow level espada is not enough to defeat an Ulquiorra level espada is just fair.
    The quantity and quality of the ice in this technique is just not enough to trap Hallibell, contrary to the next move who doesn't use only Toshiro reiatsu to create ice, but as the technique Kirin of Sasuke in Naruto, use all natural water present in atmosphere, which increase the scope of the attack compared which Toshiro could create with only his reiatsu.

  • @thequincy_
    @thequincy_ 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This video isn't bad but there alot of flaws. For one majority of Espada have trained for long periods of time even before becoming Arrancar, so how you said "Toshiro has trained hard unlike the Espada " isn't a true statement. For two Espada #3 name is spelled Harribel not "Halibel".

    • @AceOfficial337
      @AceOfficial337 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      No it’s Halibel Aizen even says Halibel in the anime it’s self.

  • @wanttogetfood
    @wanttogetfood 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Espada are more powerful in HM but Kenpawnchi and Byakuya curbed their foes there. Maybe in HM, soul peoole are stronger in general

  • @mannije78
    @mannije78 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So many people would have died from their fight

  • @lemondeestloeuvredunenfant4633
    @lemondeestloeuvredunenfant4633 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    hallibell "sealed" = ichigo bankai vizard > Toshiro bankai base(without techniques such Sennen hyorio or Hyouten Hyakkasou).
    As I say already above, not agree on your Espada classing. Hallibell is effectively more powerful than Ulquiorra.

    • @pyromania1018
      @pyromania1018 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      We don't know how she'd stack up against the Segunda Etapa, though.

  • @Blah2000Blah
    @Blah2000Blah 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I'm pretty sure Ichigo can beat Soifon and Sajin in Bankai alone as well. Gonna check your other vids for your logic on only Hitsugaya being that weak.

  • @thetranscendent6927
    @thetranscendent6927 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Why ichigo cant defeat mayuri in he
    First Bankai?

    • @quany5521
      @quany5521 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      helio sena ??

    • @thetranscendent6927
      @thetranscendent6927 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@quany5521 im saying why He cant win mayuri in her First Bankai form?

    • @fadilsetiawan6202
      @fadilsetiawan6202 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Her?

    • @thetranscendent6927
      @thetranscendent6927 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@fadilsetiawan6202 ichigo First Bankai form omg people its easy to understand

  • @noaholvera8921
    @noaholvera8921 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Pretty sure ichigo can beat most of the captains

  • @berserkerjeanne7563
    @berserkerjeanne7563 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Stop considering Halibel weaker than Ulquiorra other wise the ranking doesn't make much sense, heck Halibel's release actually pretty big compared to other Espada, if anything make them completely even with the exception being with Segunda Etapa