No, California DID NOT legalize jaywalking...
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- Back in the 1980s, cops in LA wrote 40,000 jaywalking tickets a year. Now they write ZERO.
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Research:
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"AB 1238 Analysis: Pedestrian Access" Sforza, David. Assembly Committee on Transportation, 26 Apr. 2021
AB 1238 Bill Text. California Assembly, 20 Sep. 2021
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AB 1238 Veto Message from Governor Newsom. Office of the Governor, 8 Oct. 2021
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"Fatal Incident Involving Kurt Reinhold" Investigation Case S.A. 20-024, OSCD DR #20-03. Orange Count District Attorney, 7 Feb. 2022
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California Assembly Transportation Meeting. California Assembly, 28 Mar. 2022
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AB 1909 Bill Text. California Assembly, 19 Sep 2022.
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AB 2147 Bill Text. California Assembly, 03 Oct. 2022
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"State motor vehicle registrations, by years 1900-1995," Federal Highway Administration.
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"Vehicle Code - VEH," California Legislative Information.
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News articles and Press Releases:
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"Jaywalking with 'no immediate danger' is now legal in California"
Shaheen, Perla. KGTV, 2 Jan. 2023.
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"Soon, Jaywalking Will No Longer Be a Crime in California" Oxenden, McKenna. The New York TImes, 26 Oct. 2022.
www.nytimes.com/2022/10/26/us...
"Jaywalking to No Longer Be a Crime in California," Vargas, Vikki. NBC Los Angeles, 5 Oct. 2022.
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"Ting Proposes to Eliminate Jaywalking Tickets In California," Press Release, 25 Mar. 2021
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"Ting Reintroduces Proposal to Reform How Jaywalking Tickets Are Handed Out in California," Press Release, 16 Feb. 2022.
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"Ting’s Bill To Reform California’s Jaywalking Laws Heads To the Governor," Press Release, 25 Aug. 2022.
"Virginia becomes first state to decriminalize jaywalking"
Autry, Curt and Turner, Mikea, WWBT TV, 4 Mar. 2021
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History:
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"Mishap Due to 'Jay' Driver"
The Kansas City Times, 21 Sep. 1905.
"Drastic Measure Imposes Many New Restrictions on Drivers and
Cuts the Speed Limit," The Los Angeles Times, 29 Apr. 1906.
"Many Citizens Are Reckless in Cross Streets: Motorists in Favor of
Regulating 'Jay Hawks,'" San Francisco Examiner, 7 Jan. 1917.
The Daily Times (Davenport, IA), 7 Apr. 1917
"Mr. Jay Driver, You Are Found Guilty!"
Los Angeles Times, 20 Sep. 1925
"Who Opposes the Jay-Walking Law Now? Nobody!"
The Los Angeles Times, 27 Sep. 1925
"In L.A., It Pays Not to Jaywalk," Freed, David.
The Los Angeles Times, 8 Sep. 1984
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Time sections:
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Introduction (0:00)
Jay-Drivers (0:51)
Model-T Invasion (2:21)
Jay-Hawk Laws (3:54)
Flashing "Don't Walk" (5:42)
Stop Light Trouble (6:48)
Enforcement Problems (8:37)
AB 1238: No Picnic (10:31)
AB 2147: No Crash (11:49)
Conclusion (13:33) - ยานยนต์และพาหนะ
Crosswalks are usually placed at intersections, where traffic can be coming from many directions, drivers are more distracted, and it’s harder to predict what they will do. I feel much safer crossing in the middle of a long straightaway where cars can only come from my left or right. I can wait until no vehicles are nearby in either direction and take my time crossing without affecting anyone.
I think that's part of the reason why the hawk signal was created
This also occurs with pedestrians on stroads in Orlando. The signalized intersections on a stroad, like OBT, were often more dangerous than just jaywalking midblock. The key difference with Florida to most states is that our stroads have continuous central medians that effectively act as a pedestrian island for jaywalkers and only have to cross one direction of traffic at a time. I also did this when I was dropped off at a bus stop that wasn't near an intersection.
Counterpoint: it's -10°F some days when I'm walking across the unmarked crosswalk at the intersection between my apartment and my parking lot. Everyone driving is warm and listening to music. I am cold and trying not to die. Is the brake pedal that hard to use when I'm standing in the parking lane, fully upon the crosswalk, waving for the driver to pay attention to their legal obligation to yield the right of way?
@@cbar687 Sadly, it’s way too easy and tempting for drivers to ignore them. We need to be more willing to slow down and de-prioritize cars. That’s the only way pedestrians can be safe, and there’s no feasible way to make everyone stop being pedestrians, especially since environments where the maximum number of people drive are unsafe for the drivers, too.
@@AssBlasster I agree with you completely. !!! One time when I was staying in Orlando and I just needed to cross the street to get to the place near Seaworld and there was a crosswalk, but since drivers were allowed to turn right one driver almost ran into me, and then I tried carrying an umbrella so they could see me over the bushes they didn’t trim, and I had the crosswalk, signal but I still felt unsafe so I started jaywalking because it was much safer because you can watch like you said where are the cars are stopped me and block
I'd be interested to see the ratio of tickets written for Jay walking vs failure to yield for pedestrian in crosswalk....
Good idea! I would also be for in the major crosswalks and cities were walkers using the crosswalks that the police should monitor and ticket and save car drivers right away. The car is turning right or not yielding to the walker.
The production value has increased tremendously, and I'm loving it. Also keep the chicken!
Thank you! This video was a lot of work, so it's really good to hear that 👍
Production value was always high.
I second that. More chicken, please.
Yes, please keep the chicken 😭
In the Netherlands the rule used to be: if there is a crossing (a zebra, or with pedestrian lights) available within 30m (or 100 feet) you are obliged to use it. Otherwise you are free to cross the street directly. Exceptions exist for blind people, who always have priority if they have the appropriate cane with them. Pedestrians are never allowed on larger roads of highways, so crossing them is not a concern. It's a simple rule, but that is what traffic rules need. Easy to understand.
Edit: Upon researching this further I found that this rule was dropped a while ago. There is no obligation whatsoever anymore. Belgium seems to still have this rule.
There is no rule that you have to use a pedestrian crossing if you are within a certain distance of that in the Netherlands Jay walking just does not exist in many European countries.
yes, afaik it is in general covered by the 'rule' that one shouldn't purposefully create a dangerous situation.
In Belgium it's 20m now.
in Oregon there is a rule that any road junction is implied to have a pedestrian crossing, whether it is marked or not, unless it is specifically posted that it is not a pedestrian crossing. it is also a rule that a driver must always give way to a pedestrian wanting to cross at a crossing; unless there is a traffic light or other traffic control, at which point, everybody must obey the traffic control.
@@Holland1994D You might want to read up on that. Almost all Europeans nations ban pedestrians on highways, and many go even further. True, the term "jaywalking" does not exist in many Europeans countries, but the laws are there.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaywalking
In my experience, jaywalking is no more dangerous than crossing at a crosswalk with a lighted “walk” sign. Drivers just don’t notice, don’t care, or even become aggressive when they see pedestrians or bicycles. No matter how you cross a busy road, you need to assume everyone wants to kill you - if you start with this assumption, you will not be disappointed.
I agree Jethro, Jaywalking rule should never exsist.
Agree I trust no driver. If it's safe to walk on a walk signal or not I go.
Seriously. I've nearly been ran over twice, both times were when I was crossing legally as at an intersection with the light telling me to walk and someone was zooming to make a turn right after it their stoplight turned red.
@@everett6072 Same thing happened to me as a walker several times. !!!
" No matter how you cross a busy road, you need to assume everyone wants to kill you - if you start with this assumption, you will not be disappointed."
that makes me want to drive even more to my destination, just for the added safety benefits of a vehicle, and im pretty sure a lot of people would agree with me on that. my take is we need stricter driving tests and driving schools situated near interstates or freeways so people would have to take them to legally drive.
I speak English as a second language, and I still remember being utterly confused in class when we learned the word "jaywalking" because that entire concept was foreign to us.
sometimes english is just confusing even to english speakers...
I believe the concept of jaywalking is very american. I never heard of it until I moved to the usa. People everywhere understand the danger of crossing the road, but level of criminalization in the usa is too extreme. The funny thing is that most people ignore that law except when they're very close to an intersection or the traffic is too dangerous to cross.
Carefully crossing the street is only illegal in the "land of the free".
american english has a peculiarity for (mis)using common words and compounding them to describe something entirely different.
i mean why does pedestrian crossing become "zebra" crossing ? why are the priority triangles "shark teeth" ? and why are some types of traffic lights "hawks" ?
what is the point of using low level words to describe these concepts ? not to mention the frankly insulting overuse of mnemonic devices (yes, "HAWK" is one of them)
I'm from the northeast of the US. I heard the term jaywalking in movies (made in California) and I thought it was a joke, or maybe a law that was not ever enforced. As noted in the video, Chicago never fined people for jaywalking, and I assume Boston same thing. But later I learned it's a real thing that's enforced in some cities.
“Honey there is parking spot across the street from our house” ok I’ll park and see you after a 30 minute walk from the car
They used to sit near my highschool (in California) and ticket students, in a residential neighborhood.. Also, they would ticket people at the city bus hub for spitting on the ground..
The tide is turning. Washington state is removing the "right on red is allowed" law in heavy pedestrian areas, so places like school zones and shopping centers. The logic being that cars wind up hitting people in crosswalks because they think "I can go on red, I don't have to think about it." I'm talking about when the cross sign is white. People just don't stop on right-reds a lot of the time.
It's good that we're finally removing all these lobbied pro-car laws that only exist because car companies lobbied to get foot traffic banned. Jaywalking, quite literally, was a term that was made to shame walking pedestrians.
That's why the association of crooked sherrifs was opposed to the change. They wanted to keep writing tickets and stealing the money, like the criminals that they are.
Infinite money glitch 🤑💰
Basing laws off of what “Karens” want is where the US fucked up. Democrat or Republican, all Americans should agree that Karens shouldn’t have the say so in the language of the law.
Truly protecting and serving !!!!
3:14 has wonderful old terminology. The speed limits are given as "a mile in four minutes" or "On curves and corners is must be seven minutes." Also the whole article begins with, "Automobilists...." instead of calling them drivers. So entertaining.
Only times I have almost been hit crossing the street, I was crossing according to the letter of the law, when the crosswalk light was on for me, and cars were supposed to yield. But people were in too much of a hurry or just didn't care that I was already out in the crosswalk and went anyway - even cars that had stopped for the red light or just went right through as if there wasn't one. Usually they were in big cars that were so tall that the front end nearly comes up to my shoulders, which makes it extra dangerous.
Meanwhile, every time I have crossed against the signal, I have not had this problem, but of course I am doing it when there is a lull in traffic.
I also noticed every time I bring this up people try to look for a way to blame my behavior when I did everything right - hence why these were near-misses rather than collisions - rather than people behind the wheel in too much of a hurry, driving oversized vehicles with dangerous blind spots and not having *any* regard for the rules of the road or the responsibility inherent in driving such a massive machine.
Yes, happened to me too so many near misses scared me and I was crossing on the crosswalk with the signal
Yeah, I was crossing in a crosswalk and a car made a right against the red, hit my bike knocked me over and fled the scene. I was, maybe 8 just going to the corner store. This was the first time this happened, there are similar stories two or three more times in my life, so as a teenager I just crossed where I deemed it safe crosswalk or not. I don't trust drivers as a pedestrian, nor as a driver. Especially in California the lights may be on but no one here really cares.
The problem is mostly on the drivers. In such a hurry they don't yield to people walking. Even on a walk signal they keep turning. It's either wait for them or get hit.
People who think jaywalking is terrible have never had to walk across the street.
@@kyle333halfevil so true! People who think jaywalking is terrible never had to walk across the street on a crosswalk on the right signal with the car driver still turning right and the walker doing the right thing and still having to jump out of the way.
Your videos are insanely well made and researched! You are one of the top creators in this platform and we need more videos like this, real value and no bs. I'm living in Greece and it's really great to see the difference between driving codes, street designs and way of thinking. Already waiting for your next video.
Thanks! I try to add as much "meat" as I can. Someday, if enough people want to contribute, I'd love to do some videos about roads in Europe (including Greece!)
@@RoadGuyRob If you make the call a lot of people will be there, including me!
This is basically how Jaywalking laws have always been used in New Zealand where it's only an issue if you are putting yourself or the driver in danger. I don't know of anyone who has been given a Jaywalking ticket in even our biggest cities (which to be fair is 1/25th the size of LA at the biggest).
Mmm. In New Zealand, a lot of minor traffic laws are enforced only in the sense of 'the one breaking the rules gets hit with the penalties in the event of an accident'. Jaywalking laws (not called that, and already more reasonable than what I hear about American ones) fall in that catagory.
Squirrels are the weirdest jaywalkers. They'll make it almost all the way across the street--I mean, within a few FEET of the curb--and when they sense a car rapidly approaching, they'll dart back to the OTHER SIDE of the street. What a bunch of weirdos.
Yeah, and deer do the same thing, so watch out.
Yeah, I noticed that almost all the time with squirrels
I can't count how many times I've had to jump out of the way of a car when I was legally using a crosswalk. Either from them turning or just running a stop sign or traffic light. I've even dealt with drivers cursing me out and honking when they tried to turn right during an all walk signal and there's a massive "no turn on red" sign. There's a 4 way all stop intersection in my neighborhood that is notorious for people running through so I prefer to go a block down the street and jaywalk. That way I only have to look in two directions for traffic instead of having to figure out if the people are going to actually stop or if they're turning and just not using a signal. I've almost been hit at that intersection even as a driver so it's not like they just can't see me.
The same happened with me
Great video! I appreciate how hard it can be to talk about jaywalking in the US because the topic can be so heavily politicised over issues like racism and car centrism, and I think you handled it very well by saying grounded in the practical effects of the law as it currently stands, and the impacts on pedestrian and driver safety.
As a Brit I do often have to be careful abroad since jaywalking laws pretty much don't exist here, you can only be arrested if you are walking on a motorway, or anywhere where a "no pedestrians" road sign is present. In terms of crossing the street you have no obligation to cross at a pedestrian crossing or obey the pedestrian crossing signal. However, if you are hit by a car who couldn't have reasonably stopped in time then the driver can't be charged with a crime and you won't win suing them for damages, and if you stop in the middle of the road for no good reason and hold up traffic, you absolutely can be arrested for "obstructing the highway".
In Australia I believe it's only jaywalking if there's a designated crossing point within 20m of where you cross the street (or if you start crossing when there's a red light). I think that language would avoid the problem mentioned in the video where the nearest crossing is far away.
Yep, that's correct. Only illegal to cross normal roads in those two situations (20m from a crossing [traffic lights, or pedestrian crossing etc] or if the lights are red for pedestrians).
However it's also illegal for pedestrians to cross freeways etc.
That's still not really a fair system, 20m *isn't far away in walking distant.
There is another condition to cross the road directly but, this is really only used if the person is creating a hazard (NSW).
It's similar in Poland but the distance to nearest designated crossing point is 100m (328ft) instead of 20m.
@@milliedragon4418 20 metres is not far at all to walk lol
All those puns and not once was the bird flipped. lol
Great video, Rob.
Thus another reason why we should be building streets for PEOPLE FIRST!!
It is important to remember that the jaywalking laws at the time was largely placed by legislatures lobbied by auto interests. Pedestrian safety could have easily been obtained by stricter licensing requirements and speed governors.
This decriminalization of jaywalking is a step in the right direction, since it slightly shifts the responsibility of pedestrian safety to drivers. Ironically, car technology has gotten to the point where we can in theory have speed limiters based on the current speed limit.
Keep up the good work. I hope the state I moved to, New York, takes a hint from California and largely legalizes jaywalking.
another important thing to consider is that the braking systems on early cars, really cars up until the 1960s, were absolute garbage. Cars quite literally could not stop. So instead of creating better braking systems they just lobbied to get foot traffic off the road.
Since you mentioned speed governors being reasonable with today's tech, the NHTSA is trying REALLY hard to make all SUVs and Trucks in the US have emergency auto-braking systems. The reasoning is that trucks and SUVs kill more people in what would otherwise be routine traffic accidents. So what should be a small fender bender turns into a fatality because some dumbass has to drive a giant vehicle.
Vehicle size is also why everyone complains about headlight brightness now. Try driving around in a small hatchback sometime. Almost every SUV/Truck will be basically brighting you. This gets even worse if you live in an area where "truck culture" means everyone is modifying their trucks without adjusting their headlights.
6:03 Imagine commuting to work at 7AM and you just see a chicken dancing across the street
What's kind of baffling about the whole thing, is that instead of a peace officer helping you safely cross a road, they would write a citation instead. You're obviously not busy, just help a person out. Maybe with that big expensive car and warning system.
Thank you Rob for the fun and informative videos!
Thanks for doing this video. It was very helpful as a California resident, and I am hopeful that the data will show no significant difference in 2028.
I didn't know this but in Winnipeg, MB jaywalking has always been legal as long as the pedestrian doesn't jump in front of a car, which lots of people do actually do. But there's lots that also jaywalk safely too.
Congrats on 100K!!!! Welp deserved. What an interesting video, living in CA it’s always a mess and now feels like it’s still ambiguous.
Great, well researched video as always, Rob. Thank you so much for putting it out. I'm happy to be supporting you on Patreon!
Thank you!
@@RoadGuyRob you should start a Rail Guy Rob channel. Personal automobiles are generally awful for American society. Trains are the future.
I love how you included statistics and real world incidents in order to support your point that jaywalking laws may be more harmful to the general public rather than keeping us safe. It’s sad that two people were killed for just trying to get somewhere - and as a pedestrian/cyclist I definitely support decriminalizing jaywalking. I mean, when you’re a civil engineer you’re usually working to save lives, so… thanks Rob!!
I'm fascinated for that CHP/UC report to the legislature in 2028. That's when we'll have real data to peruse.
@@RoadGuyRob Liked the video after the terrible start. Skipping the entire start of people getting mowed down by reckless drivers with the pedestrians blamed. Which you dishonestly represent with that one bicyclist.
Yeah, I definitely support decriminalizing jaywalking specially, since when I was in a city without my car, I was almost ran over several times and I was in the crosswalk at the right time. I’m also for no right turns for cars when there are crosswalks for walkers .
Excellent production, informative, and humorous. Great job!
In the US, I'm not afraid of the ticket. I'm scared of being hit because no car would slow down or stop. We need crossing guards for children near schools for people to stop, blows my mind still every time in the EU how every car will stop for the stripes on the ground
The consequences for bad driving over there are way higher
I know that here you're being told to drive in a way that you could break in time if a kid would suddenly emerge behind a parked car, sure maybe not the case for more buys roads, but in sidestreets and traffic reduced zones that's a good rule to drive by.
in NZ we have crossing guards, or near enough, but the entire situaiton's kind of complicated. It's Mostly not down to bad driving, basically.
@@laurencefraser "It's Mostly not down to bad driving, basically."
In America that's considered communist stuff. In america we have the right to drive 15 over the speed limit and if a pedestrian walks in front of my Ford F-350 Heavy Duty Diesel Monstrosity(2mpg) it's THEIR FAULT I was playing candy crush on my phone and not paying attention.
(This is satire/sarcasm) A lot of americans actually think this way though, which is very sad.
That's not why there are crossing guards. There are crossing guards because it's impractical to have the crossing signals set for the outflow of kids when school gets out. Crossing guards don't do anything that a traffic control device wouldn't do.
Dude the amount of work that goes into your videos is just amazing. You really deserve more subs than you have. Keep it up!
the insane production value on these videos is amazing
Came upon you by a comment you left with Peter Dibble who has done a number of Oregon based video stories. The one you hit on was the Portland, OR freeway system. You both have a great way of putting out a story. Very much enjoyed.
Don't forget thw part where car companies everywhere created and mass produced the original term jaywalking and paid to have mocking comics posted everywhere in cities.
These videos are Masterpieces Rob :) Thank you for these!
Rob deserves a million subs for the level of quality in the content he produces.
Robs chicken suit will be the new channel mascot... give it time.
I've only had to glue it back together once...
I really love your video and presentation style. These videos are phenomenal.
What incredible production value, yet again!
Excellent video Rob from start to finish, giving a history lesson and breaking down the revised law change. Love it!
Props on your 100k subs RGR! love the vids!
Props to the Patrons tofurkey enabling Rob to seemingly have Jollibee as the channel’s go-to fast food chicken restaurant
Another high-quality video. A small detail I noticed was at 6:30 when you put the document behind the chicken's arm
Glad you noticed! Rotoscoping and other tricks...
Dude your content is so eye opening
Love it. Great video as always. Have a good rest of your weekend!!
Hey that light underneath the overpass is right around the corner from my car dealership in Redlands! I drive through there all the time LOL.
Great video! Always entertaining and educational
Really interesting! Thank you for digging into this. :)
I COMPLETELY appreciate the lack of ads. I would be totally fine if you said the episode was brought to you by your patreon supporters. Even if it was a 30 second ad for them. I'm so tired of in video ads for bs games and vpns
I would rather cross in the middle of the street, on my own terms, where I have all the power, instead of trusting that drivers are paying attention and doing the right thing at controlled intersections.
I agree with that. Also, I was almost hit several times crossing at the correct way at the intersection crosswalk so now I cross in the middle of the street of course carefully looking that cars are stopped and I never come close to getting hit anymore.
Every new road guy rob video sets the road guy Rob precedent higher.
Can you please make a video about how emergency vehicles make the traffic light green?
Still researching. High on my list!
@@RoadGuyRob thank you
@@RoadGuyRob opticom. Formerly a 10/12/14 Hz (from lowest priority to highest) strobe or IR LED array. Rapidly moving to GPS & computer-aided dispatch (CAD) based systems where the route to the call is plotted & signals are changed based on GPS data.
They have a device that shots a Lazer at a sensor next to or on the pole which will make the light green.
Would be an interesting topic. My understanding is traffic lights can have sensors installed to detect a certain type of sound or strobe light on the emergency vehicle and give it priority.
Several years ago I started seeing reports of cheat devices being sold to the general public to get this priority treatment. I believe there are more advanced systems now that only authorized vehicles can use.
These are the best produced infrastructure planning videos I’ve ever seen
I'll never forget the time it took three officers to write me a jaywalking ticket in SLC.
Congrats on 100K Rob!
Thanks!
Hey Rob, absolutely love your videos and enjoy watching every single one of them sometimes repeatedly. Did you notice the black Nissan was parked about 30 in past the yellow striped marking about 14 minutes in to your video?
Which black Nissan? I don't see it...
I'm only 2 min and I've already seen GTA V, RDII and a Top Gear reference! Great video just for that.
sometimes i just have to pause, rewind, laugh, contemplate my life, rewind again, and remind myself that i'm not hallucinating xD
your style is honestly unique and so entertaining. especially the part 5:56 where the chicken is moonwalking on the crossing, while you're delivering dead serious information xDDDDDD
Road guy rob i love you so much you’re a real artist you’re a real youtuber
“Don’t make case law”. Scary stuff…
How self unaware does onehave to be for the officer to say that and then escalate it into a shooting?
Congrats on 100k subs!
Thank you!!
Imagine a world where people don't need to be TOLD BY LAW how, when and where to cross the friggin street...
Go to the United Kingdom. That's the law there: no such thing as jaywalking.
@@johntracy72 It'll take WAAAAAAY more than that to get me to move there...lol
This has me so ready to drive through the mall
I love how you constantly use GTAV to visualize things in your videos
I love all the old-timey video and audio (both real and fake) in your video!
Rob! Nice to see 'ya! Great video!
5:57 But with your usual attention to detail on things, I'm surprised you didn't make make the Don't Walk signals 🟠Portland Orange like they should be! 😲
It's not listed on my FHWA color sheets I use. Good catch for next time. Thanks!
Looking forward to the next time Rob is in the SCV (unless he lives here) - looking forward to meeting you sometime.
I got a jaywalking ticket in Hollywood in '89 (crossing Ivar half a block from Hollywood). Motorcycle Cop saw me in his rearview and was either having a bad day or hadn't met his quota. Went to court to fight it and tried the old driving school trick to get out of paying anything. Judge said there was no such thing as "walking school". Whole courtroom got a good laugh but he dropped my fine to $50. Another LA Cop let me off for vagrancy once - I wasn't homeless or anything, I was 17 and didn't have a drivers license or state issued ID yet. It was illegal to not have ID in Los Angeles in the 80's apparently.
Makes me wonder what "walking school" would cover for 8 hours... 🤣
Early Crew! & first. Love the videos Rob!
Or, you know, *late* crew... Zzzzzzzzz 🥱
Every Road Guy Rob episode I see conjures up memories of sharing the road with people who don't know the law or how to SHARE the road properly and legally.
Great Work Rob!👍👍
Thanks, Eddie! 👍
@@RoadGuyRob Anytime Brother. My wife, and I loved your videos.
I love your content! thank you!
Great team of characters in you short movie. I am still watch but smile for the dancing ticketed rooster I mean why did the chicken cross the road.
As a NYC area resident I didn’t know that you could even get a ticket for jaywalking
7:10 woah! didn’t expect the bakersfield feature!
I see that you filmed this episode partly in Bakersfield, CA based on locations Valley Plaza and Fox Theater in your background shots.
So, California is aligning with the Canadian practice. In Ontario, pedestrians should cross the road only at a designated crossing if one is nearby (which is not defined, but I have seen lawyers and police online say about 30 m away is considered the limit of being near). If crossing otherwise, pedestrians should not interfere with traffic. Otherwise, it is cool. And if you are crossing while the light switches from green to red, you still have the right of way.
12:00 that's basically how some of our rules here work - it's legal to lane filter on a motorcycle on a multilane road, so long as it's safe - This stops you from getting fined simply for lane filtering but if you get into an accident while lane filtering it brings heaps of scrutiny to the rider because it's clearly not safe (the argument becomes then "was it safe when they started lane filtering, etc, etc")
Not legal where I am while cops usually don't care unless something happens and then fault is directed. Last week saw someone lane split and cross over right in front of a semi and between another car at stop instead of stopping in the front where they would be visible. Some people like to be special.
The outro made me laugh. Fewer VPN ads! 🤣
I really expected those 'zombie' jawalkers from your live stream to show up in this video.
JOLLIBEE!!! hahaha I like that insert
Glad you caught it! Expensive? Yes. Crispy? Also, yes!
Where I'm at in Canada, you're free to cross anywhere, any time, provided you don't make a hazardous situation.
And even if you do step out with cara inbound, they're obligated to avoid impacting, obviously.
Cities need to do more to cover pedestrians if they want to be dense, basically.
Good road design will make people either be intrinsically safe, or when that isn't possible, make people want choose the safer option because that's the one that's most convenenient. Unfortunately in North America and lots of other places, that safer option still means taking the car. A sad state of affairs.
Not just bikes?
@@DiogenesOfCa probs it makes sense tho
@Road Guy Rob, could you do a video on TMA "crash" trucks and the changing requirements for more flashing lights, retroreflective markings, rumble strips, etc. to get the attention of drivers?
Good idea! Can't promise how quickly it would get made, but I added your idea to my production pile. Thanks, Garrison!
In Boston, jaywalking is technically a crime that Carrie’s a max fine of $5. So it’s never enforced, and everyone in Boston is practically an expert at it.
In Ontario Canada, you have a Jay-Walking which takes place at an intersection and an unmarked crossing, which is anywhere else. Unmarked crossing are legal and the driver and pedestrian often split the responsibility for a cross, although circumstances are examined
"Catch you guys in the next one. Peace." is a fantastic tombstone epitaph
As a European, I still laugh at the idea that walking across the street could be a crime.
And then I cry a little.
Why do you cry?
I wish you had covered uncontrolled intersections more in this video. Pedestrians have the legal right of way in the crosswalks at these intersections, but because there is no traffic signal, drivers rarely yield the right of way, even if the crosswalk is marked with paint or lights (my nearest intersection, and the one we must use to get to the parking lot where our car is parked, is completely unmarked)
"and fewer VPN ads" Amazing!
1:09 as someone named Jaylen I’m questioning my entire existence 😅
In the uk every one just walks across the road anywhere. I even used to longboard across the odd big intersection insead of waiting for the lights 😎
In the 3 jurisdictions of the UK (England and Wales, Scotland, and Northern Ireland) you have the can cross anywhere except a motorway or place where signage prohibits it. We have a 'Green Cross Code' advising children to "Stop, Look, Listen" a Pedestrian has priority at junctions or crossings, and regardless of where it occurs a pedestrian has priority when they are already on the road, excepting places already mentioned. Pedestrians do not need to obey crossing lights they are merely advisory, cycles and animals are exempt on shared crossings but not on three-light specialist crossings.
The fundamental problem with American culture is the idea of personal responsibility being the end all be all of anything that happens. Instead of building infrastructure that makes it physically impossible for cars to hurt pedestrians the pedestrian (and sometimes driver) is blamed. Where are the raised cross walks, pedestrian only zones, narrowed streets, bollards etc.? Easier to change infrastructure than fallible human beings. Signs and paint are NOT infrastructure.
I disagree. It is much easier to teach children right from wrong when they are young, and enforce it with a good swat on the backside. The problem is that this is not being done anymore. I've seen pedestrians cross under pedestrian bridges, and they had to climb walls to do it, but it was faster and easier than doing it the right way.
@@rogerwilcojr you basically just said "beat your kids instead of building sensible infrastructure." stop advocating child abuse. "The problem is people aren't abusing their children anymore" is peak idiot-american speak.
If there's a quicker way to cross something then that's poor design from a foot-traffic viewpoint. "but it was faster and easier than doing it the right way" is a weird way of saying "the pedestrian bridge was poorly designed and implemented" When things are designed with humans in mind then human behavior needs to be accounted for. When it isn't accounted for then people won't use it as designed. That's not a reason to BEAT YOUR KIDS.
Stop advocating people blindly follow rules that aren't well thought out. That isn't how humans operate or approach problems.
Holy shit Rob when did you get so good at editing?
Great vid as usual
Glad you enjoyed it
Wow, great job! I came to similar conclusions when I did my research and video. I found it a challenge because there is not a lot of good quality data to really understand the traffic safety perspective for jaywalking. Also, there are many issues with drivers and pedestrians who are distracted nowadays, which one would think certainly plays a role.
I would actually agree with a law that requires pedestrians to not be looking at their phone, regardless they're crossing in a designated crossing zone or elsewhere. I do not ever want to be that driver who hits someone who was not paying attention because they had to attend to a very important TikTok video
@@johnchedsey1306 It's definitely a big issue. Many of the solutions proposed haven't really stuck yet or has privacy/intrusiveness concerns.
@@johnchedsey1306 you're way, way more likely to be the driver on their phone who hits someone on foot. There's a reason almost every state has a law stating you cannot be on your phone while operating a moving vehicle.
Not enforcing it doesn't work and most of the arguments against it are specious. Blaiming the enforcement of the law for people killed for stealing a cops gun and being shot as a result is a stretch at best. Since the local cops stopped writing jaywalking tickets and making the guilty go to educational classes, it's been a mess. I've nearly hit morons who were wearing all black and were completely invisible apart from where they blocked the light coming back from the lane markers. That is inevitably what happens and yes, that would still technically be illegal, but you don't get the opportunity to intervene while some education might make a difference if it's not allowed for officers to use it as their primary reason for contacting the jaywalker.
@@CRneu Yes, but how many actually enforce it with any regularity?
Isn't it simple? At crosswalks you have the right of way, in other places cars do.
Shop I work in is across from a speedway. A four lane road with a center turning lane. If I don’t jay walk over there to get a small lunch or a coffee or whatever, it’s at least a 10 minute walk to the next crossing in either direction. The key is to know what times it’s mostly empty and when it’s just not safe at all.
This is interesting. Curious to see how it pans out.
So glad you finally got to expense that chicken costume!