the stihl rm series mowers comiong to my stihl dealer here in canada in march plus my kubota dealer waiteing on for new kubota 21,36,48,52 inch walk behinds @@richardlalor2431
Back when I did a few yards by myself, I bought the Exmark Commercial 30. I was using the Honda HRC216K3HXA prior - it's the Cadillac of commercial 21's. I hated to get rid of it but going to a 30" (either the Commercial 30 or the Toro Turfmaster) made more sense to me productivity wise. So in 2016 I bit the bullet and bought the Commercial 30 and sold the Honda to a landscaper friend. I've always mowed with 21" self propelled walk behinds, but I tell you what. Stepping up to the 30" really allowed me to mow faster and get the yards done in reduced time compared to the 21". The real test for me came during the summer of 2018 going into mid fall 2018. It was our wettest summer on record and usually, August grass is dormant. August here looked like May - lush green grass and raining every 2-3 days consistently. I was facing a lot of growth with grass but not only that, it was wet grass. It was all that the Commercial 30 and I could do to keep up with all that growth. To date, the wettest and thickest grass that 30" has cut and it handled it like a champ. Never once bogged down or choked out. Yeah I had to double cut but it got the job done. I kept the underside of the deck clean as well. That lush growth kept on until about early October, which is later than what it does normally. I am fully convinced that if I still had that Honda - even as good a mower as it is - it would not have made it through that summer. The Commercial 30 handled it all like a champ. It impressed me even more! Something else to consider too - the 30's and 21's you can easily induce a slight positive deck rake to improve airflow for discharge or bagging. You can do this by setting the front wheels at your desired cutting height and run the rear one or two notches above what the front is set. This allows the deck to intake a bit more air and thus boosting discharge, whether it be through the chute or into the bag. Doing this makes the mower a bit more effective. i run my Commercial 30 set up in this manner.
So do u have the Turfmaster commercial 30 inch? Any idea how it compares to the newer HDX version with the bigger transmission. I'm considering buying one of those used. As the prices have come down.
I’ve had an ExMark 21” since 2007. Love it!! Only use it for 2 back yards now-- but was a workhorse 2007- 2015. The aluminum body is great. Light weight and corrosion resistant.
I have a couple of Toro 21 inch push mower. My daughters father-in-law mows 10 yards for me that he hauls in his truck. I have a commercial Toro push, but for what I use push mowers for it is too heavy. I am sold on Toro because mine keep running and running.
I am mowing more smaller yards this year and went to Weingart's (Utica) Thursday and bought a Toro Super Recycler. It ran about $900. and I use it to bag grass in small front yards to avoid clippings laying on the lawns. Also it gets me into gates. Prior to this all I used were a 42" and 50" ZTR. Seems to work well. Most customers have yard waste bins in their yards so I can dump the clippings there. BTW, the Toro is self-propelled, great for us old guys.
Using the scag 30 inch and toro turf master 30 inch. Both have larger kohler 224 cc engines .Toro is lighter cuts better in dry grass, scag heavier but with front caster wheels does better in wet grass. Both stripe nicely.
In my business we have about 10% of our properties that we have to hand mow partially or entirely. 30 minutes of mow time with the machine tops. Our toro timemaster 30 seemed like the best choice because with only being used a handful of hours a week, it shouldn’t be completely overdoing the mower and cost half as much as the turfmaster
I have 2 Honda hrn's and 1 Honda hrx for my mowing business this is my 4th season with them and have had no issues at all with any of them . I do a lot of fenced yards and cookie cutter town houses so push mowing is a must .
We have a Exmark 30 commercial push mower at our Davey Tree Flat Rock branch it’s a lot older than that nice new one of that showroom floor at Weingartz but we like it for our commercial properties that have gates or areas with small acreage and also lays down good stripes too👍🏻
So i’m not 100% sold on Exmark but currently i have a commercial 30 with 180 CC Kawasaki engine. cuts good, bags good, mulchs good. 3.5 to 4” is my minimum to max cut range.
Toro timemaster 30 inch bought it last march. Middle of December self propelled cable and belt went out. Got it fixed hopefully it will last me all this year again I’m very happy with it.
Ive been running the honda 21 inch hrx with the plastic deck its been amazing they dont sell them annymore the gonda unit has been super solid its all about how you take care of them. I also run a 30 turfmaster have been for about 2 years thet mower is an absolute BEAST.. the engine is the kholer which imo solid as can be easy to start i bought it semi used homeowner used it one time and took it back and sold it for way less then new so i hopped on that deal the only issue with that mower is its very heavy and if you use it quite a bit all day youll def be able to skip the gym that day😂 so far its been an amazing addition to my businesses.
Honda’s cut quality are unmatched. Stinks to see them go out of the mower business. The Exmark 30 inch with the Kawasaki Engine is really a good machine
I got my first push mower to try out this winter in palm coast Florida on st Augustine grass. We have some large oaks around the property. I have the dewalt that takes 2 batteries. Love it being a battery operated, gets a lot of time out of the batteries, cut quality is nice, light weight. Dislike it’s suction ability, doesn’t pull all the leaves as good as gas but that should be expected with a lightweight blade.
At 3:50 minutes in your video, the Honda HRX217 (w/orange handle cruise control) is the best small walk behind mower I've used. The Honda HRX217 is light, dependable, a true self-propelled mower with cruise control, and goes everywhere that I can't get a stand on or sit down mower. I had the Toro "personal pace" mowers in the past and hated them.
The first walk behind I bought was a 21 in Toro commercial. That mower is great. Most reliable engine in a mower I have ever used. Everything on it seems to be built well. I picked up a SCAG SFC30 this last year. My dealer m also sells Toro but I felt the feature set in the SCAG was better because you get single lever height adjust, hour meter, higher cc engine, and swivel casters. I kinda wish I saved the $300 and not got the swivel caster add-on. I almost always have the casters locked from swiveling.
Went from the exmark commercial 30 to the Honda Commercial 21. Best decision ever! The 30's are way way too heavy for all day mowing. Yes I know heavier is better built but the difference on the body is night and day.
Great video brian I love using my toro 42inch mower stripes like a pro just finished the regular yearly maintenance new plug new filter cleared the bottom off all good to go Happy new year to all
I've been using Arins 21 classic with swivel front wheels. Love that mower, but it is 15 years old and has hundreds of hours on it, so i then went to the cub cadet cc600 28" cut. Had a love hate relationship with that one, great mulcher, but terrible bagging mower to do design. Only 4 years old and completely falling apart. Now I've upgraded to the scag 30fc commercial graid walk behind mower. I have put only 3.4 hours on it, yes it has an hour meter on it. I'm liking it so far.
I have a ferris fw15 for my main “push” and a time master for a back up as well a condo that has a bunch of curbs to go over for individual unit yards so its much lighter but as efficient.
I’m not a business, just a homeowner, with about an 8,000 sqft yard. I’ve really enjoyed picking up yard maintenance as a hobby. I use the Honda there but was looking at something more refined. I don’t do electric. I’m in Deep South Texas and keep my Milwaukee batteries in the garage… they don’t last with the heat… lesson learned Thoughts?
Our very first season was done with toro timemasters. We bought used that ended up crapping out 4 lawns into the season so we ended up with a new one very early on. I would say spend the extra and get the Exmark 30" as the Toro is nice, But has definitely taken a beating and shows its " residential " use very quickly.
For a long time, as the price of Chanel increased, I no longer thought I could afford it. I think I'll be happy that I have the kislux as my travel bag that I don't have to take care of. By the way, I'm sure no one will have a hard time telling the difference. Thanks for the comparison.
Exmark 30 inch vs the toro 30 inch is the self propel operation. The Exmark is one speed for fast mowing which might be too fast moving for certain people and the toro goes as fast as you push the handle in which is more controllable.
I use the 21 inch SCAG with the 5hp Kohler. I only use it on a few lawns for the back area of 10X15 worth of grass. I don't take any push mow only lawns.
I have the timemaster for homeowner use and its a beast, also won the entry level toro battery pushmower and it cuts just as good but the bagging sucks, not enough power
Hi Brian, I follow your videos and appreciate them. This is my first year in the lawn business wondering what software for invoicing you might be able to recommend. Was a challenging year for me up in Wisconsin being so dry, but I’m spending too much time on invoicing and keeping track of my numbers..
Honda still manufacturing their gas push mowers, out of their France factory. The Toro Commercial push mower with the Honda engine is a very decent, inexpensive, entry level beginner class mower. Well suited for a homeowner.
I sure like my time master 30” gas i will be buying another this spring for the 2nd guy that will be working with me to knock out the small lawns that the rest of my larger decks will not fit through the fenced gates.
Would you recommend the ex mark commercial 21 or toro commercial 21? Is the Kawasaki fj engine the best or the kohler command engine. Also what do you think of the scag commercial 21 mower
Brian, you said you don’t do much push mowing but you do snow removal I would really appreciate a video of best snow blowers for snow removal business for removing snow on commercial property walkways etc… thank you in advance
Wish someone would make a 33 in like the Cub only better quality/ more heavy duty !! Belt drive that would pull a sulkie. Speaking of belt drive, pretty much everyone has stopped makind belt drive. I used to have a belt drive 36" Ex Mark and it was a great mower. Simple and more affordable than a hydro !!
Exmark 30 is good for sidewalks, that’s about it. Needs caster wheels to turn that beast. Plus raising and lowering deck isn’t the best. I’d go with the scag 30 with front caster wheels. Or just a commercial walk behind.
I am going to try to pick up a few yards next year. My point? No local dealers of Toro and especially Exmark stock the 21 commercial. Scag won’t even talk about them (21 in mowers). I did find dealer that will order a Toro commercial 21. I don’t want the super expensive Honda engine. Thinking Kawasaki. Is blade brake clutch worn the extra money?
Brian my mower of choice is any 30” push mower I started with toro time master and then got toro commercial 30 now to do the smaller yards. If I was to start over today I’d get time master and work my way up to a 36” standard.
It's a real shame we can no longer buy a great estate to full commercial grade side discharge 21" mower, We side discharge with our standers or Z's without worrying about clippings. I am old enough to remember when you could get a great side discharge 20-22" mower that dispersed clippings well. I don't bag anything if I can help it and I don't like being forced to deal with dumping a bag every few minutes and/or handling the clippings after dumping them.
Exmark 21 is a tank of a push mower. The wheel design is better than the toro or honda so it has less maintenance. Also for some reason the Exmark use less gas than Toro. Used Toro for the longest until I switch to all Exmark.
Honda mowers going totally electric now. Last year they were discontinued from the US by September. Good mowers for sure. Still using a 21" cut entry level self propelled nearing 11 years.
Hey Brian love the videos make,but I’m 11 have 1 customer and my mom is going to let me knock on more houses till I get 5 more clients at least, but can you make a video of the best equipment and like a reasonable price for my equipment,and like say how much we should charge for services and stuff please and thank you
I got a big garden, the grass is long at the beginning of the season, we have tried sit on mowers, I want a heavy duty, propelled gas mower what are we looking at
The Toro Turfmaster and Exmark equivalent are expensice, heavy as hell, and the transmissions are not good. I was always needing to tinker with the Turfmaster even with minimal use.. I sold my turfmaster and bought a $600 21" honda which works great and has been totally dependable.
Have a Husqvarna with the honda engine ...that engine has given me trouble since day one Im 3 years in and its shot ...and I only mow my yard once a week
The Exmark 30 and commercial Toro 30 will beat you up if you're doing 10+ lawns a day. If you're a younger guy or you got a crew, they're great as long as you get one of the Kohler command pro engines with the updated transmission, but they're really too heavy to not have casters if it's your main mower. They really kill your wrists after a while. Skag makes a version of that mower with casters, but I've yet to use one. The residential version of that mower that Toro makes is great. It's got good power, It's much lighter, and the overall ergonomics are superior. Just know that it's residential grade, including the engine. It's not going to last more than a few seasons if you're really running it more than a niche mower. These mowers also do not bag or mulch well, outside of well maintained weekly accounts. If you get one of these mowers to start a small business, it is in your best interest to get a quality bagging/mulching mower as well. I've used them all, and IMO the commercial Honda's are the most durable/reliable, the Toro/Exmarks are the best performers, and the Yravo/badboy is the best your best bang for your buck. They are no longer making Honda's as of last year, and their commercial mowers are very hard to find right now. You can get the Ybravo/Badboy in 25" that is an excelent machine. It really does save you a bit of time, but you lose a bit of torque in the tall or wet stuff. Electric can be done as a niche mower. I use an Echo for wett soggy laws I don't want to tear up, but even with an inverter and a pie of batteries, it's hard to be as productive with them. If I were starting a business on a budget and could only have 1 trim mower, it would be the Ybravo/badboy 21" simply because they bag really well, and if you open up the back of them, the grass comes out at an angle because of the shape of the deck that it fans pretty well and doesn't hit you n the shins if you position yourself out of the way. This allows you to prop it open with something and sorta use it as a side discharge if you encounter an overgrown lawn. It also is an absolute race car in the higher speed setting if you're in shape. You can pick up a gen2 Ybravo 21" for like $1200, and they're worth every penny.
I have a Scag vride 2. I never use it anymore. Bagging is too much work. I have two employees who just use push mowers. Both my Honda 21” commercial mowers are done so I need to replace them
I got a question for you.... How does the honda commercial mower stack up against the exmark 21 inch commercial mower? Im considering buying used so i was just wondering.
Briggs and Stratton boo - I just purchased a lawn mower in the spring, and it won't work. It is a Briggs and Stratton. I clean the carburetor. I prime it, starts and stops.
Hey Brian love the videos you make,but I’m 11 have 1 customer and my mom is letting me knock until, I get 5 clients but can you make a video of reasonable prices for my age what we should price and stuff please and thank you that other comment was my other account but this is my real account please and thank you
I’m sure I’ve asked this before and can’t remember if you answered my comment …… but how do you stay white as a ghost being outside all day ?? I wear a hat with cape, and long sleeve and am still all burned up everyday, maybe it’s the camera but im curious 😅
Well this video was in March when we just got out of not seeing the sun form like 4.5 months in Michigan lol. During the summer I'm just as tan as anyone else. But, we do strive to keep the sun off us as much as possible, hats and long sleeves at a minimum.
@@BriansLawnMaintenance good to see a response from a big TH-camr, wasn’t sure if you bathed in sunscreen before starting your day, I try to stay away from that because I’m sure with sweating you’d have to apply it like 5 times a day, maybe I just tan and stay tan easily, thanks
Got the 30 exmark and at around 25 hours replacing a sprocket and belt!! Only use for home use on my front yard!! And of course warranty is only 1 year and I’m just beyond that so not happy with this mower at all or Exmark 😡😡
I bought the 30” toro timemaster (used) and I dropped 300 in it after the first 4 uses. I figured hey it happens… then after getting it out of that shop I had to bring It back in about 2 months later, got it tuned up for about $160. The next day it started fluttering on me and so I instantly blamed the mechanic that serviced it… took it to another small engine mechanic. Paid $150 this time and it worked for about a week and broke down again. Will start up but will die right when I engage the damn blades. They suck ass
The 30 wide HDX commercial is junk the kawasaki engine won't stay tight to the frame comes loose and messes up the engine mounts and always some issue with the drive system I sold it and bought a 30 wide with the briggs and stratton and it's a step down but a better mower never had any problems with it other then a belt and 1 drive cable over 3 years!!
Careful with the new Honda push mowers. Those GCV170's and 200's have a recall on the decompression cam. It's not a big deal, but ask if it has been updated before buying. Also, the cams are plastic in these engines. Not good at all, and there's problems with the drive belt coming off with the self drive system and yes Honda is not making push mowers in North America. With the new briggs and statton engines, I wouldn't never buy one. Briggs is no longer, and parts are made cheaply in China and takes time to get if you need repairs. Kawasaki and the Commander Kolher would be the only engines out there I would buy these days. I've been a small engine mechanic for some time now and keep up on these things. Just some information for you
Honestly we rarely talk prices just because every dealer is different. Some have incentives, different markets have different prices, and frankly dealers can undercut and do whatever they want to earn a sale. Most every brand website has MSRP listed so I would just go with that if you want to see retail pricing.
There's children that work in every section of the energy industry once you get out of the first world. There's absolutely children working in refineries in places like Syria, Nigeria, Venezuela, Iraq etc. They literally use slaves in the form of North Korean political prisoners in places like Siberia. Then you have offshore rigs where slaves are used in the form of children that were captured in war torn countries in Africa. They work for food, they can't leave, and many of them are neutered to make them more docile. Most of that product doesn't end up in the first world, but our consumption of oil creates these scenarios regardless. Renewable fusion energy along with renewable battery technology in the form of sodium ion is the only way any of this stuff will change anytime soon. With the use of AGI, we're probably less than a decade away, which is why all of these massive companies like Honda, Toyota, GM etc are stopping the production of gas engines. Big big changes are coming, whether people like it or not.
What is your guys go to mower of choice for push mowing?
Honda
I have a Honda push mower, runs pretty well. I've only needed to use it a hand full of times tho
21” toro Kawasaki engine
my go to lawn mower are toro and cub cadet
the stihl rm series mowers comiong to my stihl dealer here in canada in march plus my kubota dealer waiteing on for new kubota 21,36,48,52 inch walk behinds @@richardlalor2431
Going from a 21” to a 30” commercial was like a revolution for my mowing game back in 2013. Hallelujah 😊
Back when I did a few yards by myself, I bought the Exmark Commercial 30. I was using the Honda HRC216K3HXA prior - it's the Cadillac of commercial 21's. I hated to get rid of it but going to a 30" (either the Commercial 30 or the Toro Turfmaster) made more sense to me productivity wise. So in 2016 I bit the bullet and bought the Commercial 30 and sold the Honda to a landscaper friend. I've always mowed with 21" self propelled walk behinds, but I tell you what. Stepping up to the 30" really allowed me to mow faster and get the yards done in reduced time compared to the 21". The real test for me came during the summer of 2018 going into mid fall 2018. It was our wettest summer on record and usually, August grass is dormant. August here looked like May - lush green grass and raining every 2-3 days consistently. I was facing a lot of growth with grass but not only that, it was wet grass. It was all that the Commercial 30 and I could do to keep up with all that growth. To date, the wettest and thickest grass that 30" has cut and it handled it like a champ. Never once bogged down or choked out. Yeah I had to double cut but it got the job done. I kept the underside of the deck clean as well. That lush growth kept on until about early October, which is later than what it does normally. I am fully convinced that if I still had that Honda - even as good a mower as it is - it would not have made it through that summer. The Commercial 30 handled it all like a champ. It impressed me even more! Something else to consider too - the 30's and 21's you can easily induce a slight positive deck rake to improve airflow for discharge or bagging. You can do this by setting the front wheels at your desired cutting height and run the rear one or two notches above what the front is set. This allows the deck to intake a bit more air and thus boosting discharge, whether it be through the chute or into the bag. Doing this makes the mower a bit more effective. i run my Commercial 30 set up in this manner.
So do u have the Turfmaster commercial 30 inch? Any idea how it compares to the newer HDX version with the bigger transmission. I'm considering buying one of those used. As the prices have come down.
I have the Exmark 30s and 21s and they are great. Hold up for years, I have two 21s that are 11 years old now and still run.
I’ve had an ExMark 21” since 2007. Love it!! Only use it for 2 back yards now-- but was a workhorse 2007- 2015. The aluminum body is great. Light weight and corrosion resistant.
Ferris fw15 for me, technically it’s a walk behind but the footprint is the same as a turfmaster/ commercial 30 but with way more power, love it
Love mine.
How is it on hills?
@@jamesbuchanan5752 super steep not good going sideway. It will go up them if you can walk up them.
Love mine plenty of power and has reverse. Wish the tank was bigger thou
@@oliverjarquin8716 yes the tank is only good for maybe 2 properties which is kind of ridiculous
I have a couple of Toro 21 inch push mower. My daughters father-in-law mows 10 yards for me that he hauls in his truck. I have a commercial Toro push, but for what I use push mowers for it is too heavy. I am sold on Toro because mine keep running and running.
I ran the Honda mower a ton last yr that thing did me very well. If you in market for a push and you find a leftover I’d buy it
I started with the toro timemaster 30” push mower. Still have it but don’t use it any more. I feel like it was a great mower for what I used it for.
I am mowing more smaller yards this year and went to Weingart's (Utica) Thursday and bought a Toro Super Recycler. It ran about $900. and I use it to bag grass in small front yards to avoid clippings laying on the lawns. Also it gets me into gates. Prior to this all I used were a 42" and 50" ZTR. Seems to work well. Most customers have yard waste bins in their yards so I can dump the clippings there. BTW, the Toro is self-propelled, great for us old guys.
Using the scag 30 inch and toro turf master 30 inch. Both have larger kohler 224 cc engines .Toro is lighter cuts better in dry grass, scag heavier but with front caster wheels does better in wet grass. Both stripe nicely.
In my business we have about 10% of our properties that we have to hand mow partially or entirely. 30 minutes of mow time with the machine tops. Our toro timemaster 30 seemed like the best choice because with only being used a handful of hours a week, it shouldn’t be completely overdoing the mower and cost half as much as the turfmaster
I have 2 Honda hrn's and 1 Honda hrx for my mowing business this is my 4th season with them and have had no issues at all with any of them . I do a lot of fenced yards and cookie cutter town houses so push mowing is a must .
We have a Exmark 30 commercial push mower at our Davey Tree Flat Rock branch it’s a lot older than that nice new one of that showroom floor at Weingartz but we like it for our commercial properties that have gates or areas with small acreage and also lays down good stripes too👍🏻
So i’m not 100% sold on Exmark but currently i have a commercial 30 with 180 CC Kawasaki engine. cuts good, bags good, mulchs good. 3.5 to 4” is my minimum to max cut range.
Toro timemaster 30 inch bought it last march. Middle of December self propelled cable and belt went out. Got it fixed hopefully it will last me all this year again I’m very happy with it.
Ive been running the honda 21 inch hrx with the plastic deck its been amazing they dont sell them annymore the gonda unit has been super solid its all about how you take care of them. I also run a 30 turfmaster have been for about 2 years thet mower is an absolute BEAST.. the engine is the kholer which imo solid as can be easy to start i bought it semi used homeowner used it one time and took it back and sold it for way less then new so i hopped on that deal the only issue with that mower is its very heavy and if you use it quite a bit all day youll def be able to skip the gym that day😂 so far its been an amazing addition to my businesses.
Honda’s cut quality are unmatched. Stinks to see them go out of the mower business. The Exmark 30 inch with the Kawasaki Engine is really a good machine
I got my first push mower to try out this winter in palm coast Florida on st Augustine grass. We have some large oaks around the property. I have the dewalt that takes 2 batteries. Love it being a battery operated, gets a lot of time out of the batteries, cut quality is nice, light weight. Dislike it’s suction ability, doesn’t pull all the leaves as good as gas but that should be expected with a lightweight blade.
At 3:50 minutes in your video, the Honda HRX217 (w/orange handle cruise control) is the best small walk behind mower I've used. The Honda HRX217 is light, dependable, a true self-propelled mower with cruise control, and goes everywhere that I can't get a stand on or sit down mower. I had the Toro "personal pace" mowers in the past and hated them.
The first walk behind I bought was a 21 in Toro commercial. That mower is great. Most reliable engine in a mower I have ever used. Everything on it seems to be built well. I picked up a SCAG SFC30 this last year. My dealer m also sells Toro but I felt the feature set in the SCAG was better because you get single lever height adjust, hour meter, higher cc engine, and swivel casters. I kinda wish I saved the $300 and not got the swivel caster add-on. I almost always have the casters locked from swiveling.
Went from the exmark commercial 30 to the Honda Commercial 21. Best decision ever! The 30's are way way too heavy for all day mowing. Yes I know heavier is better built but the difference on the body is night and day.
Great video brian I love using my toro 42inch mower stripes like a pro just finished the regular yearly maintenance new plug new filter cleared the bottom off all good to go Happy new year to all
I've been using Arins 21 classic with swivel front wheels. Love that mower, but it is 15 years old and has hundreds of hours on it, so i then went to the cub cadet cc600 28" cut. Had a love hate relationship with that one, great mulcher, but terrible bagging mower to do design. Only 4 years old and completely falling apart. Now I've upgraded to the scag 30fc commercial graid walk behind mower. I have put only 3.4 hours on it, yes it has an hour meter on it. I'm liking it so far.
I have a ferris fw15 for my main “push” and a time master for a back up as well a condo that has a bunch of curbs to go over for individual unit yards so its much lighter but as efficient.
I’m not a business, just a homeowner, with about an 8,000 sqft yard. I’ve really enjoyed picking up yard maintenance as a hobby. I use the Honda there but was looking at something more refined.
I don’t do electric. I’m in Deep South Texas and keep my Milwaukee batteries in the garage… they don’t last with the heat… lesson learned
Thoughts?
the best thing ive done was take one of my beat up toro timemaster 30" and repower it with a Kohler 224 and upgraded the pulleys from the turf master
Our very first season was done with toro timemasters. We bought used that ended up crapping out 4 lawns into the season so we ended up with a new one very early on. I would say spend the extra and get the Exmark 30" as the Toro is nice, But has definitely taken a beating and shows its " residential " use very quickly.
🎉 Thank you for the information.
I use the Ariens 22" rear wheel drive push mower. That extra inch does go a little quicker than a 21".
For a long time, as the price of Chanel increased, I no longer thought I could afford it. I think I'll be happy that I have the kislux as my travel bag that I don't have to take care of. By the way, I'm sure no one will have a hard time telling the difference. Thanks for the comparison.
Exmark 30 inch vs the toro 30 inch is the self propel operation. The Exmark is one speed for fast mowing which might be too fast moving for certain people and the toro goes as fast as you push the handle in which is more controllable.
I bought a used toro 21 inch commercial mower and it runs like a beast. Looks identical to the exmark mower shown in this video.
Good advice covering battery vs. gas mowers Brian. Your knowledge shines bright.✨💯👍🏾😀✝️💜🙏🏾🇺🇸
We use the Black Toro Super Recyclers. We have 6 of them, and they get used daily. Guys like them because they are light and fast.
Really love the Toro timemaster 30”.
I use the 21 inch SCAG with the 5hp Kohler.
I only use it on a few lawns for the back area of 10X15 worth of grass. I don't take any push mow only lawns.
I have the timemaster for homeowner use and its a beast, also won the entry level toro battery pushmower and it cuts just as good but the bagging sucks, not enough power
Hi Brian, I follow your videos and appreciate them. This is my first year in the lawn business wondering what software for invoicing you might be able to recommend. Was a challenging year for me up in Wisconsin being so dry, but I’m spending too much time on invoicing and keeping track of my numbers..
Starting up I’d suggest Yardbook. As you grow north of $500k, I’d consider LMN.
The prices are of push mowers is very impressive! Wow!!
Honda still manufacturing their gas push mowers, out of their France factory. The Toro Commercial push mower with the Honda engine is a very decent, inexpensive, entry level beginner class mower. Well suited for a homeowner.
I sure like my time master 30” gas i will be buying another this spring for the 2nd guy that will be working with me to knock out the small lawns that the rest of my larger decks will not fit through the fenced gates.
I would go with the toro I love toro
Would you recommend the ex mark commercial 21 or toro commercial 21? Is the Kawasaki fj engine the best or the kohler command engine. Also what do you think of the scag commercial 21 mower
Are all those toro mowers propelled
Brian, you said you don’t do much push mowing but you do snow removal I would really appreciate a video of best snow blowers for snow removal business for removing snow on commercial property walkways etc… thank you in advance
Let me see what I can do brother
Wish someone would make a 33 in like the Cub only better quality/ more heavy duty !! Belt drive that would pull a sulkie. Speaking of belt drive, pretty much everyone has stopped makind belt drive. I used to have a belt drive 36" Ex Mark and it was a great mower. Simple and more affordable than a hydro !!
Exmark 30 is good for sidewalks, that’s about it. Needs caster wheels to turn that beast. Plus raising and lowering deck isn’t the best. I’d go with the scag 30 with front caster wheels. Or just a commercial walk behind.
I am going to try to pick up a few yards next year. My point? No local dealers of Toro and especially Exmark stock the 21 commercial. Scag won’t even talk about them (21 in mowers). I did find dealer that will order a Toro commercial 21. I don’t want the super expensive Honda engine. Thinking Kawasaki. Is blade brake clutch worn the extra money?
Guys, I was hired to translate for Brian & he was saying BUY the Exmarks!!! LOL!! Hoping all is well Bud, Dirty Jersey out!!
Push mower!! I have troy bilt / honda moter 21..bagger. Very light. 4yr now..about 300$ big box store. 👍
I have 2 Toro 30 Turfmasters HDX. They are awesome!!
Brian my mower of choice is any 30” push mower I started with toro time master and then got toro commercial 30 now to do the smaller yards. If I was to start over today I’d get time master and work my way up to a 36” standard.
It's a real shame we can no longer buy a great estate to full commercial grade side discharge 21" mower, We side discharge with our standers or Z's without worrying about clippings. I am old enough to remember when you could get a great side discharge 20-22" mower that dispersed clippings well. I don't bag anything if I can help it and I don't like being forced to deal with dumping a bag every few minutes and/or handling the clippings after dumping them.
I have 2 21” Exmarks. I do inside lawns ins SELA and they are beasts! Looking at getting a used 30” Exmark for the upcoming season.
Exmark 21 is a tank of a push mower. The wheel design is better than the toro or honda so it has less maintenance. Also for some reason the Exmark use less gas than Toro. Used Toro for the longest until I switch to all Exmark.
I have the Timemaster. I’ve had it in for repairs 3 times in 2 years. Dealer said that’s not typical, but…
Which is the best 30-33 inch commercial push mower; Scag SCF 30, Toro Turf Master or Cub Cadet 33 inch 10.5 HP?
Been using exmark 30 for 9 years
ive got the 30 inch commercial Exmark exellent mower just wish it had the swivell wheels on front make it easer to turn their heavy mowers
Honda mowers going totally electric now. Last year they were discontinued from the US by September. Good mowers for sure. Still using a 21" cut entry level self propelled nearing 11 years.
I use a old school lawn-boy commercial mower and exmark 30.
Hey Brian love the videos make,but I’m 11 have 1 customer and my mom is going to let me knock on more houses till I get 5 more clients at least, but can you make a video of the best equipment and like a reasonable price for my equipment,and like say how much we should charge for services and stuff please and thank you
Sadly the Honda was discontinued. I was lucky enough to get one last year that wasn’t self propelled. I prefer the non self propelled personally.
Nice like how you tell it like it is reality work smarter
Thank you sir for important information.
Honda are still available? My local dealers never got any back since they pulled it off the shelves last year
I got a big garden, the grass is long at the beginning of the season, we have tried sit on mowers, I want a heavy duty, propelled gas mower what are we looking at
Thanks For Your Help 👍👍
X-Mark 31" is awesome! Loved it until I moved to my Ferris push mower.
I use snappers and they’re pretty good mowers
One choice only toro timemaster at the moment.
The Toro Turfmaster and Exmark equivalent are expensice, heavy as hell, and the transmissions are not good. I was always needing to tinker with the Turfmaster even with minimal use.. I sold my turfmaster and bought a $600 21" honda which works great and has been totally dependable.
The Honda hrc216 is our go to at the company I work at but unfortunately Honda ended it's production of commercial push mowers
Is there a huge difference in the turf master 30 and the turf master 30 hdx? I just picked up a really big yard. So id love any feedback.
Have a Husqvarna with the honda engine ...that engine has given me trouble since day one Im 3 years in and its shot ...and I only mow my yard once a week
The Exmark 30 and commercial Toro 30 will beat you up if you're doing 10+ lawns a day. If you're a younger guy or you got a crew, they're great as long as you get one of the Kohler command pro engines with the updated transmission, but they're really too heavy to not have casters if it's your main mower. They really kill your wrists after a while. Skag makes a version of that mower with casters, but I've yet to use one. The residential version of that mower that Toro makes is great. It's got good power, It's much lighter, and the overall ergonomics are superior. Just know that it's residential grade, including the engine. It's not going to last more than a few seasons if you're really running it more than a niche mower. These mowers also do not bag or mulch well, outside of well maintained weekly accounts. If you get one of these mowers to start a small business, it is in your best interest to get a quality bagging/mulching mower as well. I've used them all, and IMO the commercial Honda's are the most durable/reliable, the Toro/Exmarks are the best performers, and the Yravo/badboy is the best your best bang for your buck. They are no longer making Honda's as of last year, and their commercial mowers are very hard to find right now. You can get the Ybravo/Badboy in 25" that is an excelent machine. It really does save you a bit of time, but you lose a bit of torque in the tall or wet stuff. Electric can be done as a niche mower. I use an Echo for wett soggy laws I don't want to tear up, but even with an inverter and a pie of batteries, it's hard to be as productive with them. If I were starting a business on a budget and could only have 1 trim mower, it would be the Ybravo/badboy 21" simply because they bag really well, and if you open up the back of them, the grass comes out at an angle because of the shape of the deck that it fans pretty well and doesn't hit you n the shins if you position yourself out of the way. This allows you to prop it open with something and sorta use it as a side discharge if you encounter an overgrown lawn. It also is an absolute race car in the higher speed setting if you're in shape. You can pick up a gen2 Ybravo 21" for like $1200, and they're worth every penny.
Exmark 30 for me, bought used
30 inch double blade toro timemaster is a decent option
I have a Scag vride 2. I never use it anymore. Bagging is too much work. I have two employees who just use push mowers. Both my Honda 21” commercial mowers are done so I need to replace them
Yo - What about best boots/shoes to wear when mowing?
Ive tried so many, and cant seem to find a right pair
Kujo man. Jags are the best shoes I’ve ever worn. Brians10 saves 10% too ❤️
I got a question for you....
How does the honda commercial mower stack up against the exmark 21 inch commercial mower? Im considering buying used so i was just wondering.
I’m not sure but the part availability for the Exmark will be much more prevalent
Briggs and Stratton boo - I just purchased a lawn mower in the spring, and it won't work. It is a Briggs and Stratton. I clean the carburetor. I prime it, starts and stops.
Hey Brian love the videos you make,but I’m 11 have 1 customer and my mom is letting me knock until, I get 5 clients but can you make a video of reasonable prices for my age what we should price and stuff please and thank you that other comment was my other account but this is my real account please and thank you
I’m sure I’ve asked this before and can’t remember if you answered my comment …… but how do you stay white as a ghost being outside all day ?? I wear a hat with cape, and long sleeve and am still all burned up everyday, maybe it’s the camera but im curious 😅
Well this video was in March when we just got out of not seeing the sun form like 4.5 months in Michigan lol. During the summer I'm just as tan as anyone else. But, we do strive to keep the sun off us as much as possible, hats and long sleeves at a minimum.
@@BriansLawnMaintenance good to see a response from a big TH-camr, wasn’t sure if you bathed in sunscreen before starting your day, I try to stay away from that because I’m sure with sweating you’d have to apply it like 5 times a day, maybe I just tan and stay tan easily, thanks
Keep an eye out for Stihls gas powered walk behinds…😏
Hey man are you going to be buying the new Redmax backpack blower this year because I’m thinking about getting one this year
If one comes out, than most likely. The rumors are for this spring! We shall see..
Got the 30 exmark and at around 25 hours replacing a sprocket and belt!! Only use for home use on my front yard!! And of course warranty is only 1 year and I’m just beyond that so not happy with this mower at all or Exmark 😡😡
can someone help me and tell me if it is worth buying a lawn mower Solo by AL-KO 548K ???
Toro turf master is a great push mower
Ok, you comparing the home owners toro mowers to the exmark commercial, why don't include the commercial toro, is the same with the commercial exmark
I bought the 30” toro timemaster (used) and I dropped 300 in it after the first 4 uses. I figured hey it happens… then after getting it out of that shop I had to bring It back in about 2 months later, got it tuned up for about $160. The next day it started fluttering on me and so I instantly blamed the mechanic that serviced it… took it to another small engine mechanic. Paid $150 this time and it worked for about a week and broke down again. Will start up but will die right when I engage the damn blades. They suck ass
Boss hat Toro vest. “Not here to sell any brand or anything like that” 😂
😂😅 I wear the free swag what can I say
I use the exmark 30 it's so heavy to use.
Turf master or scag 30 also are good
The 30 wide HDX commercial is junk the kawasaki engine won't stay tight to the frame comes loose and messes up the engine mounts and always some issue with the drive system I sold it and bought a 30 wide with the briggs and stratton and it's a step down but a better mower never had any problems with it other then a belt and 1 drive cable over 3 years!!
Careful with the new Honda push mowers. Those GCV170's and 200's have a recall on the decompression cam. It's not a big deal, but ask if it has been updated before buying.
Also, the cams are plastic in these engines. Not good at all, and there's problems with the drive belt coming off with the self drive system and yes Honda is not making push mowers in North America.
With the new briggs and statton engines, I wouldn't never buy one. Briggs is no longer, and parts are made cheaply in China and takes time to get if you need repairs.
Kawasaki and the Commander Kolher would be the only engines out there I would buy these days.
I've been a small engine mechanic for some time now and keep up on these things.
Just some information for you
I have the 30 brother toro self propel that one does really good better than the 21 thanks for the help on the cone thing bro it really helped 👍
Right on
Why you don’t show the mower prices?
It will be great to know the prices and compare it.
Honestly we rarely talk prices just because every dealer is different. Some have incentives, different markets have different prices, and frankly dealers can undercut and do whatever they want to earn a sale. Most every brand website has MSRP listed so I would just go with that if you want to see retail pricing.
I’d rather pay for gas for ADULTS to drill for oil than kids mine for battery minerals.
Feel ya there mate
There's children that work in every section of the energy industry once you get out of the first world. There's absolutely children working in refineries in places like Syria, Nigeria, Venezuela, Iraq etc. They literally use slaves in the form of North Korean political prisoners in places like Siberia. Then you have offshore rigs where slaves are used in the form of children that were captured in war torn countries in Africa. They work for food, they can't leave, and many of them are neutered to make them more docile. Most of that product doesn't end up in the first world, but our consumption of oil creates these scenarios regardless. Renewable fusion energy along with renewable battery technology in the form of sodium ion is the only way any of this stuff will change anytime soon. With the use of AGI, we're probably less than a decade away, which is why all of these massive companies like Honda, Toyota, GM etc are stopping the production of gas engines. Big big changes are coming, whether people like it or not.