Marshall, Steinitz, Lasker: Best of 1890s-1910s | Games to Know by Heart - GM Ben Finegold

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  • @Kabitu1
    @Kabitu1 7 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    The Gold Coin Move, the chess equivalent of "And then the whole bus applauded"

    • @morgard211
      @morgard211 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's extremely accurate 😂😂

  • @princessaiko
    @princessaiko 7 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    For years, I have celebrated GM Ben Finegold for the rule "Never play f3/f6." Then I heard, he had stolen/misappropriated it in blatant violation of US copyright laws. Now I like Ben even more. ;)

  • @bradenstewart6270
    @bradenstewart6270 7 ปีที่แล้ว +74

    So when is Arjun gonna teach a class and call on Finegold for all the answers?

    • @AndrewIsbell
      @AndrewIsbell 7 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      Let's call on a random student -- Grandmaster Ben Finegold!
      No! Didn't you read your lines! Terrible!

  • @MsUncleKevin
    @MsUncleKevin 7 ปีที่แล้ว +129

    Ben: 'This is low rated players move, so its recommended by?'
    Arjin: ''Mike Kummer'

    • @KillianDefaoite
      @KillianDefaoite 7 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      its spelled arjun though

    • @atakanpayman
      @atakanpayman 7 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      It's Arjun

    • @Herkull14
      @Herkull14 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      nobody cares hows the kid called

    • @ianremsen
      @ianremsen 7 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      I do.

    • @ASHISHKUMARDPSG
      @ASHISHKUMARDPSG 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Luka D You never spell Arjin wrong.

  • @Dybbouk
    @Dybbouk 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Lasker vs Napier is an old friend who has kept me company over the years. This is the best analysis I have seen however.

  • @warrenellul
    @warrenellul 7 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    Another finegold video? Exclam!

  • @ravenlord4
    @ravenlord4 7 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    "Some of Marshall's most sparkling moves look at first like typographical errors."
    - William Napier

  • @VladimirTheAesthete
    @VladimirTheAesthete 7 ปีที่แล้ว +59

    "Arjun likes Russian, I told him to slow down."

    • @KillianDefaoite
      @KillianDefaoite 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Vladimir Vilimaitis it's spelled "Arjun"!

  • @mahmoodsaba5046
    @mahmoodsaba5046 7 ปีที่แล้ว +67

    2 finegold videos in one week ?? suspicious

    • @wemser82
      @wemser82 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      mahmood saba Solid!

  • @paulgoogol2652
    @paulgoogol2652 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The mother of all "oh no my queen" games 😮

  • @GlennTolle
    @GlennTolle 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Ben--thanks for your great sense of humor and engaging teaching style. You actually make chess videos fun to watch. Please keep doing what you are doing!

  • @timolyphant9778
    @timolyphant9778 7 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    I need to see Arjun play Ben

  • @dextrodemon
    @dextrodemon 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    yay someone just forced me into playing the marshall variation of the french defence, and now i know i need to do a daring queen sacrifice for mate, thanks!

  • @InsanePokerClips
    @InsanePokerClips 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is gold. He's so entertaining

  • @darktechno8321
    @darktechno8321 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    12:38 "What do I have in common with him [Steinitz] ? I went to his grave."
    Wow

  • @benc6190
    @benc6190 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    everyday a new finegold video pops up is like Christmas !

  • @fabiocanedo6345
    @fabiocanedo6345 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    In 3:00, Ben tell us about the open f-file for attacks against white, but the black king is more exposed at the same time. It always seems confusing to me, as a lower rated player, when GMs teaches these classes, they don't mention the double edged nature of the positions. So, either they dont wanna confuse telling too much, or they have a good reason to ignore other stuff, and this reason is bever explained. This makes it so hard to grasp what is going on.

  • @terrabitic7090
    @terrabitic7090 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ben never gets old.

  • @shyamdas6231
    @shyamdas6231 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Lasker vs Napier should be covered in more details. That game deserves in-depth analysis.

  • @MachineEnterprises
    @MachineEnterprises 7 ปีที่แล้ว +74

    Another grandmaster Ben Finegold video? Is this real life?

    • @ahmedbob423
      @ahmedbob423 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Tomas Zaloudek *Grandmaster Ben Finegold

    • @Avuvos
      @Avuvos 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Love these vids soo much pls more :D

    • @atakanpayman
      @atakanpayman 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Suspicios...

    • @aonarchs7023
      @aonarchs7023 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      of course!Terrible!

    • @AndrewIsbell
      @AndrewIsbell 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      There are 3 more currently as "private" in the channel's finegold playlist. I suggest you subscribe to the playlist.

  • @kinderschubser92
    @kinderschubser92 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    HES BACK! I LOVE IT

  • @augustgreig9420
    @augustgreig9420 7 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    Is anyone here for actual chess analysis, or is everyone here for the memes?

    • @jasondoe2596
      @jasondoe2596 7 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      yes

    • @FireBros33
      @FireBros33 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      August Greig memes

    • @xDMrGarrison
      @xDMrGarrison 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      both :P

    • @xDMrGarrison
      @xDMrGarrison 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jasondoe2596 A very suspicious answer.

  • @thijsyo
    @thijsyo 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    "I got married in Hastings... but not at that tournament"

  • @nealsauer3006
    @nealsauer3006 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I DO know Steinitz vs von Bardeleben, so I WILL look smug. The truth hurts, grandmaster Ben Finegold. The truth hurts.

  • @benselectionforcasting4172
    @benselectionforcasting4172 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ben Finegold doing a lecture with games from Steinitz, Suspicious.

  • @hellcopterts8895
    @hellcopterts8895 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am a casual chess player so correct me in case i am wrong:
    8:37 isnt better to play Knight E2 check, White King has to go to H1, Black Rook F2, White Rook F2, Black Queen E1, White Rook F1, Black Queen F1 -> Check mate?
    Looks like a guaranteed mate, as played white can still survive trading both queens.

    • @Garryn_
      @Garryn_ 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I know this is hella late, but in this variation, after black pays Rxf2, I don't see how Qd8+ isn't immediately winning for white.

  • @johnvandenberg8883
    @johnvandenberg8883 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ben is the man!

  • @michaelbauers8800
    @michaelbauers8800 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I wonder if he will ever get a trivia TV show called Win Ben Finegold's money?

  • @suvrob_chess1677
    @suvrob_chess1677 7 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    finegold! raaarrrrr!!!

  • @Ronbo710
    @Ronbo710 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ben's reactions slay me.

  • @aliturk6619
    @aliturk6619 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    11:20
    So that's where Ben gets his sense of humor

  • @obersturm402
    @obersturm402 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    WE ALL LOVE MR FINEGOLD!! HE IS NOT ONLY GREAT AT CHESS (MAYBE NOT AS
    GREAT AS MORPHY, RETI OR CAPABLANCA, BUT STILL, EASILY ONE OF THE BEST
    MASTERS ALIVE) AND HE IS FUNNY ALSO.

  • @citcats4377
    @citcats4377 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    "Noteboom" as a Dutch person I never thought about pronouncing it like that, I like the english version!

  • @jonniehobby3690
    @jonniehobby3690 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thumbs up for accurate year pluraling

  • @AndrewIsbell
    @AndrewIsbell 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    lmao these are the same games in a lecture from december /watch?v=hfnLOkWvkOM
    Published on Dec 27, 2016
    Grandmaster Ben Finegold shows two historical games from at least a century ago. See one of Steinitz's best at Hastings 1895 and the "Gold Coins Game" from Frank Marshall.

    • @kevinbyrne4538
      @kevinbyrne4538 7 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Ben said that viewers should memorize these games. Knowing that viewers didn't memorize them in 2016, he repeats them in 2017. Eventually, with enough repetition, we'll memorize them.

  • @kiwalks6437
    @kiwalks6437 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    5:45 why not g6

  • @senatorsmeagol131
    @senatorsmeagol131 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I really love this man

  • @obersturm402
    @obersturm402 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I've seen all Finegold episodes (even home series), mastered FINEGOLD-WEST gambit (but please dont transpose it to Kummer line!) and with this gambit i'm simply crushing all IM's and FM's.
    my most profound conlusions after master lectures:
    never play f6 (if you forget about all Mr FIngold advices and still play this move you can simply resign)
    b4 is a bad move (too aggresive)
    dont move same piece twice in a row!!
    good bishop is better than bad bishop
    if there are only kings and opposite bishops on the board you can ask your opponent for a draw (playing for the win makes no sense because bishops cant catch each other)

  • @thechessnerd
    @thechessnerd 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    9:14 I’d take the Rook on c5 rather than Queen g3

  • @masaya7
    @masaya7 7 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    It's in Germany

  • @Timepass-cy2ck
    @Timepass-cy2ck 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Who is aurgin (orgin) I want to see his picture more then Ben's video 😂😂

    • @JimmyLundberg
      @JimmyLundberg 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Incorrect! You were close (but not really close).

    • @ASHISHKUMARDPSG
      @ASHISHKUMARDPSG 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      tamilans league It's Arjun. Look up "arjun Saint Louis". There's a video of him analysing his game with Jonathan Schrantz.

  • @kylen6430
    @kylen6430 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    7:20 hey that’s me!

  • @tiagobatista4069
    @tiagobatista4069 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    "Ken West does it all the time by mistake" - Priceless

  • @steelyspielbergo
    @steelyspielbergo 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ben's never heard of the Levitsky attack?

  • @howitsdone1238
    @howitsdone1238 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Im going to count how many jokes Ben delivers per video.

    • @jasondoe2596
      @jasondoe2596 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      The Online Mentor just don't turn it into a drinking game - it would be fatal :D

    • @fastpace101
      @fastpace101 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Liar

  • @Detherocable
    @Detherocable 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Finagled and The Great Carlini should have a face-off. :P

  • @xDMrGarrison
    @xDMrGarrison 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Queen g3 was badass.

  • @kylen6430
    @kylen6430 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    “What kind of move is that?”
    I was hoping someone was going to say…”A Check!!”

  • @Athenian888
    @Athenian888 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ben for FIDE president!!!

  • @1Ma9iN8tive
    @1Ma9iN8tive 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    "Arjun likes Russian ... I told him to slow down"
    Epic chess humour

    • @scroogietw6878
      @scroogietw6878 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Isaac Bishara i dont get it :'(

    • @z-man1938
      @z-man1938 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Scroogie TW maybe they play faster??!z i didnt get it either

    • @NihilSubSole
      @NihilSubSole 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      ORo Hasan Russian is pronounced like rushing

    • @xDMrGarrison
      @xDMrGarrison 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@NihilSubSole Thanks xD I didn't get it when Ben said it, now I'm cracking up. Man Ben is so funny xD

  • @channelnamechannel
    @channelnamechannel 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Qe1?

  • @cornerstonefencecompanyser8680
    @cornerstonefencecompanyser8680 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    5:57 Rxf2 Rxf2 Qe1+ Rf8 Qxf8#

    • @danambru2917
      @danambru2917 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Qe1+ it's risky... due to Rxe1 exclam

    • @JohnSutcliffe1988
      @JohnSutcliffe1988 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Rf8 instead of Rxe1! Recommended by GM Ken West.

    • @JohnSutcliffe1988
      @JohnSutcliffe1988 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      But honestly Rxf2 is the best move, cause your idea works with Qa1+ instead of Qe1+.

    • @danambru2917
      @danambru2917 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      very suspicious...

  • @gunsimar
    @gunsimar 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love

  • @websnarf
    @websnarf 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    @ 10:56 GM Finegold forgot to mention that Qe5 attempting to defend against Qxh2++ loses Nf3+ Kh1 Rxh2++

  • @mamuelpapito
    @mamuelpapito 7 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Why doesnt he grow his beard, i demand answers!!!!!

  • @leventeadamszabo5852
    @leventeadamszabo5852 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    That golden shower-joke though...

  • @xDMrGarrison
    @xDMrGarrison 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    That last game lol.

  • @filipdilmaghani9594
    @filipdilmaghani9594 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    18:31 I'm guessing Karen was in the room.

  • @jsgovind
    @jsgovind 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    We need kid's class. preferable 1 o clock. :D

  • @jgbarber3375
    @jgbarber3375 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    So some of you are confused... but... you were confused when you walked in.
    No? Nothing? ... terrible

  • @Pincsi01
    @Pincsi01 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    it's in germany

  • @pranayrawat1
    @pranayrawat1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    why does Ben keeps on making his Bedroom eyes....ROFL

  • @Rotation364
    @Rotation364 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    very suspicious

  • @PlayerMathinson
    @PlayerMathinson 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    "Guess I'm not white"
    -Ben finegold the black guy
    At 28:25 btw and no I'm not racist.

  • @Jealod24
    @Jealod24 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can someone explain why there is a separate women’s class? And as a developmental psychologist I am well aware of differences seen between men and women... but these differences are negligible except at the extremes, as you would see with any distribution curve. And while men score slightly higher with spatial reasoning, again, it’s not enough to justify an entirely different chess class

    • @irainercosmic7326
      @irainercosmic7326 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      AND ME I can't tell if you're joking or not

    • @xDMrGarrison
      @xDMrGarrison 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Probably nobody knows why, but men are just better at chess :P Also isn't the 2000+ level pretty much an extreme?

    • @insouciantFox
      @insouciantFox 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Historical reasons mostly. Now it's used to popularize the game to women, but the "men's" section is really the open section. Women are welcome in the open section, but the highest rated woman is like 2600, while the men reach into the 2800s. That's a clear separation.

  • @malachickisawesome
    @malachickisawesome 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dub

  • @backyard282
    @backyard282 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    terrible

  • @FloydMr0709
    @FloydMr0709 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    First omg :)

  • @giakhanh-piano3849
    @giakhanh-piano3849 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    F full
    I intelligent
    N ninja
    E Everest
    G gold
    O online
    L Lamborghini
    D dad
    All of it made in to a great Finegold

  • @tomer2724
    @tomer2724 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    first

  • @giakhanh-piano3849
    @giakhanh-piano3849 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why Ben is so fat????? He is a vegetarian.Please answer my question, Ben Finegold. Thank you for the video!