Pep Guardiola or Sir Alex? 😍 Jordan & Souness discuss who's the greatest EVER Premier League manager

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  • @michaeldamon7500
    @michaeldamon7500 2 ปีที่แล้ว +154

    Given that Sir Alex was able to flourish as he did under the glazers ownership is enough to make him the greatest football manager of all time.

    • @ajdesmond9545
      @ajdesmond9545 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      And he knew when to get out to best ever manager of all time don’t think no one will get near him

    • @terryloftus8626
      @terryloftus8626 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      All he had to do is beat Arsenal,then it became Arsenal and Chelsea,then Arsenal,Chelsea and City,then Liverpool,and Sir Purplenose thought "Better get out of here,l will get found out",and don't forget all the refs that gave them pens when they struggled and the unfunny "Fergie time".Peps done it in other countries he blows Purplenose out the water

    • @thesadarsenalfan3319
      @thesadarsenalfan3319 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I have nothing but respect for fergie. This lad could win the prem with an avarge premier league team. He didnt need 11 star players at the bench to sub in (like city), he just needed players with character and winner instinct thats it.

    • @passtime4805
      @passtime4805 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@thesadarsenalfan3319 fergie was European champions with Aberdeen winning in the final against Real Madrid. That’s equivalent to peps time at Barca basically

    • @passtime4805
      @passtime4805 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      And there was always a challenger firstly we was knocking Liverpool of their perch Blackburn Newcastle them Arsenal an so on.. greatest Eva…

  • @cshore1833
    @cshore1833 2 ปีที่แล้ว +119

    Fergie built United up from the depths it was at when he took over. Pep spent half a billion in his first 2 years in a club that was already built for success

    • @aru8302
      @aru8302 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Alex can not even speak other lenguage.. and you say is the best? you must to be a circus clown...

    • @dezmccaw4670
      @dezmccaw4670 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      He did it 3 times, building new squads

    • @marcelohendrix6139
      @marcelohendrix6139 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      he has the class of 92 and then bought every top player. ronaldo, rio, rooney etc

    • @kawhistraightface1462
      @kawhistraightface1462 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@marcelohendrix6139
      What did he have before the class of 92 fella?

    • @cv003799
      @cv003799 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Fergurson first title winning team was the most expensive team in British football history

  • @garywallace5602
    @garywallace5602 2 ปีที่แล้ว +273

    Ralf Rangnik, for me. He took United to levels, United fans have never seen before!

    • @mikehunt1528
      @mikehunt1528 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@elnino9772 Oh dear... Is that what happened to you ?

    • @JRW1886
      @JRW1886 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      🤣🤣🤣

    • @garywallace5602
      @garywallace5602 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@noneofyourbusiness-c7h He's following the blueprints drawn up by Ralf and Fat Frank...to the letter!

    • @ConnorWoodier94
      @ConnorWoodier94 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@noneofyourbusiness-c7h Hilarious man🤣🤣🤣

    • @DeanRyan89
      @DeanRyan89 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      💀💀💀

  • @sacred1827
    @sacred1827 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Nobody comes close to Ferguson if it's an English-based discussion. Did it with young players; did it with superstars; showed he could rebuild without a huge budget at times. And managed the task of winning this tough league and winning the European Cup at the same time. Unrivalled for now.

    • @gavin7miller
      @gavin7miller 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Fergie is Scottish...

    • @sacred1827
      @sacred1827 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@gavin7miller "English-based"

    • @ajaycyriljose9419
      @ajaycyriljose9419 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Well Gents its clear now that Pep is undoubtedly the pl GOAT.

  • @jayakrishnanravindran9618
    @jayakrishnanravindran9618 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    sir Alex didn't leave a team for the future because he didn't plan for his retirement. he made the decision to retire more than half way through his last season due to family reasons. he has described the whole ordeal in great detail in his book and also many many interviews.

  • @bensmith5288
    @bensmith5288 2 ปีที่แล้ว +68

    I cant believe this ... sir Alex...without question. Greatest manager of all time

    • @raybrooking8084
      @raybrooking8084 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Bullocks, Utd was never feared by the big Clubs of Europe as City is today. Just ask them.

    • @KittySofttpaws
      @KittySofttpaws 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@raybrooking8084 City so feared in Europe that they've yet to lift the trophy. 😂😂😂😂😂😂 PS Manchester United were the first English club to win the champions league back in the 60s. You have the same amount of Champions leagues as Arsenal, Spurs, and every other current PL club except for United, Liverpool, Chelsea, Forest and Villa. 🤫🤫🤫🤫🤫🤫🤫🤫🤫🤫🤫🤫🤫🤫🤫

    • @shikaka2325
      @shikaka2325 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Pep inherited a team with messi,iniesta,xavi,puyol… Then went to a team that had just won the CL. Then went to City who had a decent squad and had already won the league when he got there. How this is even a debate is crazy.

    • @bensmith5288
      @bensmith5288 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@raybrooking8084 I cant even respond to that . Its too stupid

    • @MrPaling12345
      @MrPaling12345 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@raybrooking8084 hahahahha they haven't won in Europe you melt

  • @artminusme
    @artminusme 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    As a City fan and Pep guy it's Sir Alex
    I know this is just for Premier League we are talking about but for Pep to be better than Sir Alex in world football with City he needs to win Champions League, win a treble or more, AND Pep needs to stay long term. Sir Alex has the reps and the stats.

    • @tonyh8965
      @tonyh8965 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Great honest post we need more people like you. Rival fan but an honest one. Salute you sir.

    • @artminusme
      @artminusme 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@tonyh8965 🍻 Thank you mate, Growing up my mum was a blue and my dad was a red 😂 both from Bury then they moved to Essex. So I had to make a choice on a club, chose City purely because Ian Curtis from Joy Division (a band I love) supported City then the next thing I know we got a boat load of money lol
      So I watched the Man United dominance thru my dad's fandom and City's woeful times in leagues below as a kid and if your a football fan, Sir Alex is easily the best premier league manager/UK manager and most likely the best in all of Football (Ancelotti probably 2nd then Pep 3rd for me all time)
      Pep does have potential to eclipse both Sir Alex and Ancelotti but it all hangs on if he stays super long term at the club and for the modern game I can't see that happening.

    • @leevancleef451
      @leevancleef451 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@artminusme can you get any deeper up Tony's hole..

    • @Mr.93.20
      @Mr.93.20 ปีที่แล้ว

      Pep won that treble and if he wins the Prem that’s 4 in a row and won manager of the year in Europe.

    • @mysticalA153
      @mysticalA153 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Mr.93.20Fergie could’ve won won the prem 7 in a row if they didn’t bottle the league in 2010 to Chelsea and 2012 to City 😂😅

  • @stevechase6671
    @stevechase6671 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    SAF without question, no one is ever going to do what he did over an extended period, he also built that squad to dominate the English game. Pep had the best squad at Barca handed to him on a plate, same with Munich and the same with City. Until he builds something from scratch he shouldn't be mentioned in the same breath.
    This from a Liverpool fan too.

  • @Kaya.
    @Kaya. 2 ปีที่แล้ว +96

    Ferguson hands down and that's coming from an Arsenal fan. Look at the Man Utd side he won the premier league with before he retired.

    • @Alice-th9lu
      @Alice-th9lu 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Wenger never spent more than 10Mil for a defender till Mustafi was signed and still qualified for CL 20 years in a row. If he had the option to spend as much as our competitors he would have signed every top player that came to EPL after we moved to the Emirates. So the comparison between the managers is not legit without applying proper context.

    • @21DMN
      @21DMN 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      In trophies Ferguson wins, in what he has contributed to football Pep Guardiola wins.

    • @samueldavids3704
      @samueldavids3704 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@Alice-th9lu Thank you. Someone with a brain. Im not an Arsenal or United fan (I dont support anyone in the premier league) but people overlook the fact that Arsene Wenger defeated Ferguson at a time where Ferguson was already established and had all the power, money and coverage. United were a franchise when Arsene came along with his few quid and took a few titles from ferguson. Arsene Wenger doesn't get enough cfredit for what he did. Chelsea's cash injection took a bigger hit towards Arsenal than it did against united because Arsenal were still significantly smaller than United. United were big enough to take Chelsea's hit. How people forget.

    • @limofootball
      @limofootball 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Look at the referees. Pep is clear of this fraud and his aftermath shows it. No philosophy left behind HAHAHA

    • @diehard21000
      @diehard21000 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@Alice-th9lu How about this for proper context fergie won the Scottish title with Aberdeen the last team to win league title outside of the old firm, and won Cup winners Cup beating Real Madrid in final and bayern munich in run, there's no comparison fergie was another level to wenger

  • @bh629
    @bh629 2 ปีที่แล้ว +89

    For Premier League it's Fergie and I don't think anyone can argue.
    As a tactician Pep is far superior. As a motivator Fergie is far superior.
    Overall Pep built better teams and played better football. And I think the trophies count will be close too by the end.
    But in terms of influencing football in this country it's Wenger and Pep.
    Fergie was a winner, but not a revolutionary.

    • @goncaloamaral7846
      @goncaloamaral7846 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Pep is not a revolutionary, there’s some evolution but everything he does has been seen before.
      Pep prevented Ferguson from being in the greatest ever argument by tea bagging SAF in two CL finals. Had Ferguson won those & had 4 CL’s it’s a different conversation. Ferguson is the most successful boss domestically, his European record lets him down.

    • @thelimey351
      @thelimey351 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Yup, Ferguson got schooled in those two CL finals.

    • @louislim2004
      @louislim2004 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@thelimey351 come on. That team has a prime messi, xavi and iniesta. That team was unbeatable!

    • @MrChrisBarker
      @MrChrisBarker 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Class of 92 says different.

    • @mosespelican3507
      @mosespelican3507 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@goncaloamaral7846 in reality you can’t truly come up with something new in football that hasn’t been done before, but you can’t deny Wenger and Pep influenced the league like no other

  • @markmiller9447
    @markmiller9447 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    There isn't even a debate. Sir Alex was a monster.

  • @vickywitvicky
    @vickywitvicky 2 ปีที่แล้ว +57

    Greatest will be Ferguson for sure but there are managers who brought different approach and impact in Premier League first would be Arsene Wenger then Mourinho now Pep and Klopp.

    • @ih4447
      @ih4447 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      What has Klopp done ? 1 premier league title in 6 years, it is an insult to put him in the conversation.

    • @saranshsharma4005
      @saranshsharma4005 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Lol, Ranieri would have been the better choice to put in there..
      Klopp is a flopp, Loserpoops

    • @fredrikdahl1230
      @fredrikdahl1230 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ih4447 well to be fair, City has won some of them, although it still might be kinda underwhelming. I mean, he still has some second place finsishes. City is not a bad team remember , so you could say it is disappointing but in my opinion at least, it goes both ways. Also klopp made the champions league final with dortmund in 2013. Longevity wise i agree he is not in the Convo yet, but neither is pep, since he has only been at City one more season than klopp. At their best as managers , sure, pep might be better, but they both have their strengths and weaknesses. And pep has had and still has a lot of great players . Both are the best now, but imo it all comes down to preference. I dont know, just my opinion 🤷‍♂️⚽️⚽️🤔 for me it's also about having a ceiling raiser and a floor raiser. Ceiling raiser means you as a manager make a already good team, great. While a floor raiser makes a bad/decent/average team a better team/ a good team, maybe even great. Pep is the first and klopp is a floor raiser. None of them is better than the other. But lets not pretend that klopp has been a bad manager. Thats just not right imo. Say what you want, but as a city fan and Barcelona fan myself , i think klopp gets overlooked sometimes. If thats down to tactics or style of play, i dont know. But klopp is one of the pl goat managers as much as guardiola.

    • @seandaly7020
      @seandaly7020 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@ih4447 klopp rebuild Liverpool as a whole since he’s arrival in 2016, he won every trophy you possible could amongst giants like city and United and their billions spent.
      And he’s brought in some of the most entertaining football styles in years

    • @fredrikdahl1230
      @fredrikdahl1230 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@seandaly7020 yeah thats what i mean aswell. I just think it's important to remember that although pep guardiola has had to perform with all the great players he has managed, he still has had alot of financial resources to buy players, especially at City. Yeah fair enough, you could say that about others aswell ,like Ancelotti, those Milan teams were amazing. And real madrid and etc. But compared to klopp, klopp, although having some financial abundance at liverpool aswell, might not have had the same as city has. Just my opinion.😃🤷‍♂️🤔⚽️

  • @BigNaz1
    @BigNaz1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    SAF built his team from scratch and restructured the whole club from what he inherited, which incidentally wasn't very great. Hence the reason why it took him a while to get started. PG inherited a decent squad and a blank cheque to go and buy whatever he wanted. There is a big difference. SAF did the same at Aberdeen, where PG has walked into good clubs in previous managerial positions with decent sized budgets and a good group of players. The test would be, PG walking into a club like SAF walked into and seeing what he can do with that club. I would love to see how far he would get if he became the new Utd manager now...

    • @BigNaz1
      @BigNaz1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @John Wilson World class football? 50 times more difficult to win games like that? What are you on about?

    • @BigNaz1
      @BigNaz1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @John Wilson Sounds like you're a deluded City fan!

    • @userafpk
      @userafpk 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I’m a Celtic fan and don’t particularly like United but to say they were simply effective is mad. They were completely electric to watch for the majority of the Ferguson years. Drinking too much of the pep kool aid making you oversimplify things

    • @carlturner6625
      @carlturner6625 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@BigNaz1 Yeah Nasar an Oil City F.C fan since 2012 🇾🇪👹🇾🇪👹 .

    • @BigNaz1
      @BigNaz1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @John Wilson Maybe you've got a thing for Pep. Or you seriously lack football knowledge!

  • @myamwezmyamwez8669
    @myamwezmyamwez8669 2 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    These guys literally ignore the fact that Wenger single-handedly built Arsenal a new Stadium and made sure he stabilized the finances at Arsenal throughout the decade in which he wasn't getting much silverware! The current financial stability of the Gunners is partially down to Wenger's legacy over his last decade as a manager!

    • @neiljameson4275
      @neiljameson4275 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Wenger hasn't even got his cscs card so doubt he built a stadium as he wouldn't be aloud on site

    • @oghaze9318
      @oghaze9318 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Wengerball existed long before Man City or prime Barca were a thing, the media bias against him is real...

    • @mister3566
      @mister3566 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@oghaze9318 As a Man united fan I disliked Arsene but now I think it's disgraceful he never gets a mention

    • @CollinY818
      @CollinY818 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@oghaze9318 it was nowhere near Barca or city's ball today let's be real 6 trophies 99 points and 4 trophies in a season 100 points

    • @oghaze9318
      @oghaze9318 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@CollinY818 That's because back then defenders actually defended, you had to be a special team to get 3-0 scorelines regularly let alone more than 5 wins in a row, now any team can win 4-0 and go on a 10 game unbeaten run

  • @maino_Da_Loc
    @maino_Da_Loc 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Its funny how the media try to change history to you young ones... Wenger is defintely a great .. not only on the pitch but off the pitch too..his intelligence is unmatched, humanitarian, i garuntee there are more ex players who love wenger over fergie etc

    • @philbarton2832
      @philbarton2832 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Wenger had a great impact on the league sure but his last year's were of stagnation and stubbornness to change. SAF's longevity and success for almost his entire utd career puts him firmly at the top of the tree. I'd rate wenger higher than pep though

    • @bighands69
      @bighands69 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No body is talking about love. If you want that go and read an LGBTQAP++ publication. In a man's game it is all about football style and winning.

  • @neveryoumind1980
    @neveryoumind1980 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Wengers is gold,something no other manager has,he made the English game great again…

  • @alantheangler6768
    @alantheangler6768 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Pep has never won anything with an average squad of players to my knowledge. Sir Alex won the European title with Aberdeen. You can’t even compare them. Yes Pep can get elite players to play a very particular way and it’s very good but I doubt he could turn an average club with limited budget into title contenders.

    • @hen5555
      @hen5555 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      And you can't compare European football in 83 to modern times, he won it twice in 20 odd year with United, hardly prolific.

    • @tlangelanishikwambana8596
      @tlangelanishikwambana8596 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Did Sir play average players at United?

    • @barramundi9863
      @barramundi9863 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Bingo!

    • @laurabrooks9213
      @laurabrooks9213 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Pep needs to manage in the premier League for 20 years to compare the both

    • @danadams8649
      @danadams8649 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      pep has never been an average manager to ever manage an average team...

  • @grinchoi1
    @grinchoi1 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Scots gonna stick up for each other. Guardiola for me is the greatest coach. The man has revolutionized football in the modern era with the philosophy of Renus Michels and Johan Cruyff

  • @vcsl14
    @vcsl14 2 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    The fact that Souness can't summarise Pep's tactical legacy beyond "playing out from the back" demonstrates just how clueless he is about modern football. He has no place providing insight in today's game tbh. He's the archaic grandad who can only tell you about the game from the 80s. Irrelevant

    • @paulmcnamara9272
      @paulmcnamara9272 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Shut up he played in a better team than citys and won three European cups something those City players can't even win once.

    • @vcsl14
      @vcsl14 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      What's that got to do with his validity as a modern day pundit? Keep your low IQ comments to yourself. Muppet

    • @Harry65921
      @Harry65921 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@paulmcnamara9272 imagine Souness’ team trying to get near De Bruyne, Silva, Rodri, Gundogan and Foden passing in triangles around them

    • @mel-bp1kp
      @mel-bp1kp 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@Harry65921 imagine how Mourinho destroyed Tiki taka twice at Inter and Madrid.

    • @paulmcnamara9272
      @paulmcnamara9272 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@Harry65921 He way better player than they were. He won way more as well including three European cups something they couldn't even it win it once.

  • @DanielBradshaw
    @DanielBradshaw 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I think there being a bit unfair to Wenger, won the premier league, brought some fabulous players to England, qualified regular for the champions league without spending crazy transfer fees, selling players for a profit, which all in turn help fund the new stadium. Great Legacy.

    • @thefelrider
      @thefelrider 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wenger was ahread of Fergie in many ways.

    • @madmanmoz6365
      @madmanmoz6365 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hes not in the conversation, he wasnt a polific winner like Sir Alex amd Pep, he isnt in the same league. Get over it

  • @jasonnerves833
    @jasonnerves833 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    It's insulting to think Wengers name doesn't even get a mentioned. players themselves mention how Wenger introduced suppliments and no drinking before games and so on . To think people have forgot he changed the English game

    • @oliverboisen7475
      @oliverboisen7475 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No wonder Souness doesn't mention him. He took away his pint 😭

    • @lukegodfrey9391
      @lukegodfrey9391 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Recency bias. Wenger changed the game like no one before him.

    • @bighands69
      @bighands69 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Wenger only won 3 league titles and his last win was in 2004 which is 18 years ago. Ferguson was managing and winning titles right up until 2013. Not even comparable.

  • @daysofgrace2934
    @daysofgrace2934 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Arsene Wenger took Arsenal from big team in England to the global stage. Arsene's greatest legacy is, he helped build a stadium in London that will help bank-roll the club for the future...

  • @hellalive8973
    @hellalive8973 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Anyone who says Pep must be too young to remember how huge Manchester United and Sir Alex Ferguson were. Together they were the premier league and I hated every minute of their reign 😂

  • @kayus6223
    @kayus6223 2 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    Souness saying Wenger is not in the conversation is hilarious, He literally changes football culture in England.

    • @winterbird4447
      @winterbird4447 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Wengers last 10 years were not great though. He did well considering they built a stadium and that took finances away from transfers but it tainted his legacy in this conversation.

    • @russellward4624
      @russellward4624 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      OK but how many league titles did he win?

    • @madmanmoz6365
      @madmanmoz6365 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      We are discuss results tropies amd success not the culture of clubs pal

    • @isaac_rodriguez17
      @isaac_rodriguez17 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I thought that as well. Wenger literally changed the way people thought about football, the way players trained, everything. He brought a level of tactical sophistication to the game that just wasn’t there before, similar to what Pep is doing now. Granted, Ferguson won more trophies and won consistently through his management so his legacy is probably better but still, Wenger can’t just be dismissed like that

    • @tweedlio2763
      @tweedlio2763 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Mourinho is ahead of Wenger.

  • @KingJaffeJoffer99
    @KingJaffeJoffer99 2 ปีที่แล้ว +69

    As a united fan, I think the biggest influence on the prem is without doubt Arsene Wenger. Before Wenger, players were beer drinking, burger eating, un-athletic footballers. Then Wenger came and everybody realised what was needed.

    • @dopelyrics6223
      @dopelyrics6223 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      As a United fan, you should know that way before Wenger, Fergie ripped the heart of the drinking culture out of Old Trafford.

    • @jg5622
      @jg5622 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@dopelyrics6223 only have history to cling to now eh? Relegation this season for Ushited?

    • @dopelyrics6223
      @dopelyrics6223 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jg5622 JG you silly sausage. Whether United get relegated or not is irrelevant. I was pointing out what Fergie did to the drinking culture at Old Trafford.
      Maybe you should stick to tiddlywinks and leave football chat to the big boys. 🤣🤣

    • @HumanBeingsRThinkingBeings
      @HumanBeingsRThinkingBeings 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Wenger Effected Fitness
      Guardiola Effected Football

    • @cryogenixoldskool5803
      @cryogenixoldskool5803 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Its delusional and wishful thinking to state that United will get relegated based on the first two games of the season

  • @deflectedmind7932
    @deflectedmind7932 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Pep changed the way modern football is viewed today.
    His barcelona team is the pinnacle of club football , the amount of imitators that team created speaks volumes about their impact to the present game.
    can't compare Pep to a 442 merchant.

    • @ThatGuy-du3sq
      @ThatGuy-du3sq 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      They are comparing in the PL not what that lemon did in Spain, you maggot.

    • @philbarton2832
      @philbarton2832 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The fact that you've basically described Sir Alex Ferguson as just a 442 merchant makes your opinion on anything football related irrelevant

    • @amolbhatia1449
      @amolbhatia1449 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You're right. You can't compare Pep to the greatest football manager of all time.

    • @ringlora2
      @ringlora2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      bro, celtic and rangers were the equivalent of current day man city in the scottish league. Aberdeen were like your current day brighton. Ferguson came into Aberdeen and won 3 leagues...Pep is nowhere near him.

    • @ringlora2
      @ringlora2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Aberdeen had started the 1979-80 season poorly but their form improved dramatically in the new year and they won the Scottish league that season with a 5-0 win on the final day. It was the first time in 15 years that the league had not been won by either Rangers or Celtic

  • @isaac_rodriguez17
    @isaac_rodriguez17 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Souness is doing Wenger a disservice here I think.
    Arsene Wenger changed the way people thought about football, similar to Pep in that way. He changed the way players trained, the way players ate (and drank), and the way a football moved around the pitch. He brought a level of tactical sophistication that hadn’t been seen before. You’d have Sunday league teams trying to move the ball as fluidly as the invincibles, just like how now you have Sunday league teams trying to play out from the back with inverted wingers and false 9s, etc.
    Granted, he didn’t achieve those consistently high levels past the decade mark, and because of that Fergie’s legacy is probably greater. But he nevertheless had a massive impact while winning a lot of trophies, especially in the early years. His achievements weren’t just down to a “knowledge of French football”, it was much more extensive than that

  • @mkk2010
    @mkk2010 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Pep changed football to the boring pass it around football, Sir Alex was strict with the players but gave them the freedom to play and entertain fans. No one can copy Sir Alex's style

  • @Khatamoga
    @Khatamoga 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    All this men built teams,Wenger built a stadium, sold his best players and finished top 4 and still played lovely football. None of this coaches given the same task would achieve the same results.

    • @asimqazi1943
      @asimqazi1943 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Played lovely football and invincibles aren't synonymous. The invincibles played similar to the high press of klopp rather than the passing football they are for some wierd reason remembered by now by nostalgia merchants. Infact it was due to wenger switching from pace power to possession football that led to the downfall of arsenal as they didn't win a Premier league since.

    • @asimqazi1943
      @asimqazi1943 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Daniel levy built a better stadium through prudent financial discipline... are we now going to laud him for that. Wenger apologists have the same few talking points which they harp on about

    • @Khatamoga
      @Khatamoga 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@asimqazi1943 We pressed like Klopp when we didn't have the ball. Its a system that has been at ARSENAL since Henry to Aubamayeng. Lacazette would drop in the mid like the way berkamp did. Overlapping fullbacks Lauren and Ashley Cole just like Belerin and Teirney. Tony and the boys held a high offside trap we did it with likes of Mete and Mustafi which led to Cech winning the golden glove but Giroud goes a whole half a season without scoring. Arsenal has played the same for over 20yrs the difference is perssonel and mindset. We lost the likes of Gilberto and Viera Tony Pires that's mindset we never replaced.

    • @Khatamoga
      @Khatamoga 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@asimqazi1943 How many trophies has Dany levy won? How many of his best players did he have to sell ? They is no way Arsene would have had Harry Kane a 3 time top scorer and assist leader and won nothing. Please don't bring up a club that doesn't match up to Arsene let alone Arsenal. This man changed English football not my words. Arsene changed how the game is played in and outside of the pitch. From diets(the whole of Europe copied that) scouting(when everyone was sleeping on the french league Wenger was there since 03/04 invincible season we have seen likes Drogba Mahrez Kante Hazard from Ligue 1) transfers (buy a player for nothing sell him on a profit) if Ferguson is the ultimate winner in the Epl and if he is your goat makes a lot of sense anyone else is a joke ting. It's the Giggs vs Henry argument. The winner vs the invincible

    • @asimqazi1943
      @asimqazi1943 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Khatamoga wenger inherited his defence which was the best at the time, signed high profile players which only young and naive arsenal fans think were unknown at the time (Henry was literally sold because he was unable to displace del piero the highest paid player that time not because he was bad but because del piero was crazy good before his injury). The Premier league was also incredibly less competitive that time than it is now with prem league revenues actually stagnating between 1997 and 2005 as people preferred serie a and la liga over Premier league. Wenger was a great manager but young fans have a habit of waxing lyrically about wenger and the good ole days when infact they were not the greatest side and poor in Europe. I mean juventus had an unbeaten season in 2011 after they had finished two seasons prior as 7th in the league. You don't see them bragging about it. The invincibles were lucky just like juventus. Total points matter not whether you lost a match or not

  • @windrider6124
    @windrider6124 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Spurs fan here, imo Ferguson is hands down the best manager in the history of football. No questions asked.

    • @yester9037
      @yester9037 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      In the premier league yes, "in the history of football no questions asked" that's disrespectful to a lot of great managers

    • @chriswilliamson7694
      @chriswilliamson7694 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Of course there's a questions to ask. What a ludicrous statement.

    • @windrider6124
      @windrider6124 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@yester9037 whos better?

    • @windrider6124
      @windrider6124 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@chriswilliamson7694 do you have another candidate? When it comes to achivements Ferguson were/are nr 1.

    • @chriswilliamson7694
      @chriswilliamson7694 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@windrider6124 , I have plenty. Rinus Michels, Brian Clough, Helenio Herrera, Jock Stein, Udo Lattek, Otto Rehagel, Tele Santana etc. etc. I'm not saying they're all greater than Ferguson, just that it's ludicrous to say there's no case for any of them. They might all have minor holes or imperfections on their records - but so does Ferguson.

  • @21DMN
    @21DMN 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Pep, in addition to winning trophies like Ferguson did, has tactically contributed infinitely much more to modern football than Ferguson. Pep implemented a method of numerical superiority through the wings and wings, of starting the game with the ball from behind where the goalkeeper is one more player, of pressing after losing the ball and, above all, of playing with a false 9 in a regular. Some of these things were done before in a very exceptional way but with poor results.
    What Pep has brought to football is worth more than any trophy.

    • @oliverboisen7475
      @oliverboisen7475 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Don't forget inverted fullbacks. If you played inverted fullbacks in the 90's in England people would've thought you'd gone mad

  • @frankford1115
    @frankford1115 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Pep came in and won the league. Great! But two managers had done the same. Ferguson came in and won with a mediocre team. 23 years never out of top three. Man City are great because of money. Chelsea the same. The owners are the ones. Pep has done great at a big club with money. Congratulations but twenty years? But nonsense to say he left the next guy a burning wreck. That is hyperbole.

    • @brazenflow6715
      @brazenflow6715 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It’s relative really, united during ferguson’s reign spent the most during the 90’s so money talks in football; it’s just got out of control financially

    • @blackwaterproduction289
      @blackwaterproduction289 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      True, but Pep has created arguably the greatest side English football has ever seen! Winning in style every season, and not any style the total football style! Every team and I mean every team in the world today try to play the way Pep plays! In terms of the overall legacy I have never seen any football manager that was able to revolutionize football the way Pep has done! However, SAF still edges it for me as the greatest football manager of all time, but I also believe it's only a matter of time before we start calling Pep that! Also never forget that he had created the absolute best football team ever existed anywhere anytime Barcelona 2009 - 2012! You can't even do the things they were doing on a playstation, Fifa/ PES whatever! They were that good! Man City are on top because of money and Chelsea as well, but isn't it ironic that Man United have done far worse when they started to pour money like crazy! It just goes to show you that money alone doesn't bring you success, it just brings you more options! All in all as a Chelsea fan, I have never felt exhausted about a premier league season the way I do now because of City, and that was exactly the feeling I had when Fergie was there! Those two sides just completely break your fucking spirit, you can do the double over them and they still manage to clinch the title away from you 😂

    • @rohithraman6488
      @rohithraman6488 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Jose Mourinho was great at Chelsea

    • @frankford1115
      @frankford1115 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@rohithraman6488 He was fantastic! Brilliant. What a team he built. Until he wasn’t! Then he got himself fired.

    • @rohithraman6488
      @rohithraman6488 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@frankford1115 He got fired cause the players were a disgrace. I am a Chelsea fan who watched most of our games that season, the players who played so well the season before to win the league just couldn't care less, Hazard had to wait until January to score his first goal IN ALL COMPETITIONS, and even that was a penalty against MK Dons, Ivanovic was rubbish, Costa was rubbish, Fabregas was rubbish, Matic, etc. I liked them at Chelsea overall but they were a disgrace that season. The only regular players who performed to their potential were Willian and Zouma

  • @pfx2259
    @pfx2259 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Fergie is greatest. Wenger made it attractive and non-monopolised (non-Bundesliga/PSG). After that, it's the financial doping era.

    • @rohithraman6488
      @rohithraman6488 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      To be fair financial doping has always been in football it's just that the scale was always going to get bigger

    • @jimboyd1277
      @jimboyd1277 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@rohithraman6488 The ever widening gap between the "have and have nots" is very destructive.

    • @rohithraman6488
      @rohithraman6488 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jimboyd1277 Fergie, Wenger and Mourinho are the 3 best for me

  • @epienjabe7087
    @epienjabe7087 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Jose is the greatest premier league manager
    For the simple reason he ended sir Alex rain unlike pep who came to EPL at a time when no club had the dominant Force

    • @aathamazhiqi3481
      @aathamazhiqi3481 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      He ended SAF reign? He won in 2005 and 2006, SAF won 2007, 2008, 2009. By the Maureenio was gone. Get the facts right!

  • @melusi9631
    @melusi9631 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The youngest manager to win champions league, who inherited poor Barcelona squad and turned them to the best squad that humiliated Sir Alex's Man U in the final. The first manager to win domestic treble in england in just less than 3 years even Sir Alex failed to win domestic treble in his 27 years at old trafford. Pep in his first season as the first team manager, he led Barcelona to the treble of La Liga, UEFA Champions League, and the Copa del Rey, becoming the youngest manager to win the aforementioned European competition. Pep was already one of the best managers in his first season in top flight football.He is the first manager to get 100 points in the epl, Sir Alex only got 90 points twice in the epl history first in 2000/2001 and 2008/2009. Pep won the epl only once with less than 93 points in his spell in england. Both are greatest manager but Pep wins for me, he changed the way football is played in england in just 2 years and arguable Man city plays the most beautiful football in the world.

    • @philbarton2832
      @philbarton2832 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And yet pep isn't the greatest prem manager ever...not even second best. SAF longevity and constant success sky rockets over peps.

  • @daveskimming6379
    @daveskimming6379 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I've been a City fan 30 years and what Peps done for us is incredible well never see football like it ever again
    But it's Ferguson it isn't even a debate really is it

    • @UrbanSherman
      @UrbanSherman 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's nice to see a football fan put rivalry aside and speak the truth. Pep is no doubt an outstanding manager and maybe could succeed SAF

    • @parster2010
      @parster2010 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@UrbanSherman not a fan of either team but it's a bit like asking who has had the most influence on modern music Paul McCartney or Gary Barlow.

    • @grealish2234
      @grealish2234 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@parster2010 it's not . Peps barca is the greatest team ever and sir alex could never do it

    • @znhait
      @znhait 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It will be a debate if Pep stays around, even for five more years, and continues on this path. City have set the standard where winning the league requires 90+ points. I think United had that total two or three times, if that, during Fergie's era. Of course, the top teams are getting more money than ever and dominating, but Pep has changed English football.

    • @daveskimming6379
      @daveskimming6379 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@znhait oh undoubtedly the point is as we sit here right now it's Ferguson..
      A lot can happen in 5 years

  • @alexandrew8227
    @alexandrew8227 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Graham, again. The Manager who had The greatest impact on English football in the Premier league era Has to be Arsene Wenger. He was the guy who brought in the sport science people, after his experience in Japan. That Revolutionised English, top flight, football from that point forwards.

    • @amajeet
      @amajeet 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Don't forget that Rijkaards Barca copied him and then Pep done it too, but British bastards of a slimy media never credited Arsene and just copied the Spanish praise for Pep and his 'tiki-taka'.

    • @bighands69
      @bighands69 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      You are talking crap about Wenger.

    • @alexandrew8227
      @alexandrew8227 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@bighands69 Thanks for that, its always good to hear from the angry armchair brigade. Enjoy your day 😁

    • @amajeet
      @amajeet 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bighands69 Arsene has always been a pioneer, and very well educated on and off the pitch.
      Can't say same about sweaty, sweary, cunty 'sirs' fergnose.

    • @Blahem1233
      @Blahem1233 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      "he stopped players putting mayo on their burgers" wow what a trophy for Wenger

  • @adam_p99
    @adam_p99 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    SAF built it from scratch. He didn’t inherit anything

    • @registame2878
      @registame2878 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Spot on

    • @saranshsharma4005
      @saranshsharma4005 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What did pep inherit?
      A team of oldies???

    • @adam_p99
      @adam_p99 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@saranshsharma4005 He inherited a club with bottomless pockets. Plus an existing squad that was capable of winning the league.

    • @rohithraman6488
      @rohithraman6488 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@adam_p99 To be fair the defence Pep inherited had an average age of 32

    • @sidbob1215
      @sidbob1215 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@adam_p99 So you’re saying Utd didn’t have the money and monopoly to buy all the players they wanted at the time.
      Come off it

  • @mrwilson7769
    @mrwilson7769 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You cannot say anyone except Sir Alex , just look at how many have tried and failed since he's retired, just shows how hard a job it is and sir Alex had it down to a fine art

    • @ss-dz8fv
      @ss-dz8fv 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      overrrated overhyped outclassed in europe

  • @headsroll
    @headsroll 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Sorry Graeme Souness is talking rubbish by saying Wenger inherited the best back 4 in World football...... what is this guy on about???? And to say Wenger's legacy doesn't match up to what Pep has at City......Wenger not only turned the culture at Arsenal football club upside down but turned completely unknown average players into World Class Elite Footballers....something Pep can never lay claim to do....This obsecene fascination with Pep is so lopsided.....

  • @thenaveenahuja
    @thenaveenahuja 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Arsene Wenger didn't had the resources that Man Utd or City have right now but still he made Arsenal consistently qualify for UCL despite loosing so many Big Players which i think is a very big achievement

    • @shyme_8280
      @shyme_8280 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      U kidding right? 🤣

  • @felixwatkins958
    @felixwatkins958 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Wenger deserves a worthy mention.

  • @applepieclub5012
    @applepieclub5012 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Ancelotti, for me, is the greatest manager of this generation.
    He’s won at least one league title in:
    La Liga
    PL
    Bundesliga
    Serie A
    Managed in all of Europe’s top 5 leagues.
    And, has 5 champions league titles, under his belt. The greatest.

    • @NotMe-el3hg
      @NotMe-el3hg 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      4 ucl, 5 league titles. One of the greats but not the greatest

    • @CYU56
      @CYU56 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      look at the managers and there style of play and how they have impacted football

    • @applepieclub5012
      @applepieclub5012 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@NotMe-el3hg who is the greatest, of this generation?

    • @applepieclub5012
      @applepieclub5012 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@CYU56 it means nothing if you don’t win.

  • @yarentaa1474
    @yarentaa1474 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Pep over fergie all day long. The football and style of play is top notch. Pep also schooled fergie twice in the champions league final

    • @vlsui66
      @vlsui66 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Fergie over pep all day long (in the prem). 1) Fergie rebuilt a club at least three different times at three different eras. 2) Fergie won the treble with united, which pep hasn't won (in the prem). 3) Fergie has 3 ucls, and pep doesn't even have one. 4) Fergie has more premier league titles than pep. 5) Fergie has greater longevity. 6) Fergie can win the prem with different players and different generations - look at the 90s winning team compared to the 2013 winning team.

  • @joeteale9775
    @joeteale9775 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    1.Ferguson/Wenger
    2.Pep
    Everyone else.

  • @clivet3252
    @clivet3252 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Arsene Wenger. Won the double in his first full season, went a whole season unbeaten, qualified for the CL for 18 years running and totally changed the game.

    • @Edgisco
      @Edgisco 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Wait you're not saying Wenger over Fergie are you? 😂😂😂

    • @davidpetitetoopageofficiel3088
      @davidpetitetoopageofficiel3088 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Edgisco Defo over pep

    • @clivet3252
      @clivet3252 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Edgisco Yes of course. Fergie was a disgrace.

    • @Edgisco
      @Edgisco 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@clivet3252 how long have you been an Arsenal fan for?

  • @ajawbox
    @ajawbox 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    the period united have gone through in the 10 years since sir alex left proves just how great of a manager he was, how that man won so much silverwear with some of the teams he put out still baffles me to this day but thats what makes him a genius. who else could play rafael, gibson, oshea & fabio as a midfield 4 and knock a full stength arsenal team out the FA cup!? that alone makes him the greatest of all time. 🤣🤣

  • @sisakhabo8369
    @sisakhabo8369 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Mourinho for me ,he has won cups with different clubs ,been fired by Chelsea only to return and win the league again! outside England he has won everywhere -Mou greatest of all time -really special

  • @nigelnyoni8265
    @nigelnyoni8265 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Greatest impact? Wenger. Even Mou bringing the 4-3-3 and Bus parking (Mou showed that a good attack wins you games but a great defense wins you the league).

    • @aaroningl
      @aaroningl 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      George Graham set the defensive blueprint.

  • @michaelh5593
    @michaelh5593 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The very mention of Arsenal has always made Souness,s blood run cold🤔 so so salty...Pep has always had money to build the best sides..Arsen had to rely on unknowns..Like Henry who failed at Juventus.

    • @vcsl14
      @vcsl14 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Souness is an irrelevant dinosaur. He literally can't even describe Pep's tactical legacy beyond "playing out from the back".

    • @ShiNooBi1986
      @ShiNooBi1986 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      1989

    • @michaelh5593
      @michaelh5593 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ShiNooBi1986 yep absolutely ! He has never ever forgiven Arsenal for that and can never ever move on, Plus he had a spell at Tottenham , So no he will never have anything positive to say regarding Arsenal.

  • @MiahN10
    @MiahN10 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Pep is an artist of a manager brings imagination in to reality in terms of watching football but longevity is wins it unless Pep is here for another 10 years

  • @paularkins10
    @paularkins10 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    It's only as I have gotten older I appreciate Graham Souness opinions. Watched him on RTE(irish television) years ago, couldn't take to him as an analyst. Now I realise he's direct, to the point and will stick to his beliefs or opinions. Great qualities to have.

    • @mikehunt1528
      @mikehunt1528 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hard as nails too. He made Roy Keane seem like Tom Daly.

    • @smallarmskepa4390
      @smallarmskepa4390 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mikehunt1528 do you like it when men are hard for you, big boy?

    • @vcsl14
      @vcsl14 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The fact that Souness can't summarise Pep's tactical legacy beyond "playing out from the back" demonstrates just how clueless he is about modern football. He has no place providing insight in today's game tbh. He's the archaic grandad who can only tell you about the game from the 80s. Irrelevant

    • @ReverZe83
      @ReverZe83 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Can't stand Souness, he's a fuckin gob shite, can't say anything good about man united so can't take him seriously. I get the rivalry between Liverpool and United but let it fuckin go, you're a grown man FFS!! No way pep has a better legacy than SAF.

    • @brigdetgillespie4040
      @brigdetgillespie4040 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Winner'

  • @richardredmond1463
    @richardredmond1463 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Ferguson 13 league titles with United and 3 with Aberdeen. Pep 3 with Barcelona, 3 with Bayern and 4 with City....so far. You'd have to think Pep may well out-title Ferguson in the end, but both have done marvellously well, Ferguson shading it for now.

    • @andychatt23
      @andychatt23 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      But you have to remember where Aberdeen and United were when Fergie arrived.

    • @teenagestar4759
      @teenagestar4759 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Aberdeen does not count for nothing .... No body cares about Scottish football..

    • @skicaliph
      @skicaliph 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Shading? …

    • @ringlora2
      @ringlora2 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Pep doesn't stay at one club for too long, because then he has to rebuild, he wins what he can then moves on to the next big side he can inherit, and always with a big cheque book.

  • @rohithraman6488
    @rohithraman6488 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Ferguson is in my opinion the greatest manager of all time never mind the Premier League era

    • @donandres10
      @donandres10 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Lol 😂

    • @TheChrisrayc
      @TheChrisrayc 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Did great in Europe didn’t he 🤡

    • @samueldavids3704
      @samueldavids3704 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Most of Fergusons success was in a farmers league known as the premier league in the early days. Fergie had it easy as United were the only team who were going to win it. We all knew the result before the season began. The upset seasons were when Blackburn won and Arsenal won the first couple. United had no contest. They had all the money and all the best deals. AC Milan with their manager was doing something similar but Serie A was a superior and more competitive league than Premier League back then as you had the likes of Parma, Juventus, Inter, AC, Napoli. In my opinion after the money came into Chelsea, was when Fergie was truly challenged. He is a great manager, but a lot of his success was when he had no real contest.

    • @legalemma
      @legalemma 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@samueldavids3704 Ferguson didn’t win the league for 5 years. He built his dynasty himself.

    • @williamolsen8464
      @williamolsen8464 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      2 cl titles in 30 years. He's so overrated just like man utd

  • @joshuagaillard4310
    @joshuagaillard4310 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How can you talk about succession thinking for Wenger when he was directly involved in building a new stadium, and a new state-of-the-art training facility alongside revolutionizing the game with statistics tracking?

    • @andychatt23
      @andychatt23 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      He never won a bean after "building" the new stadium.

  • @mattheendpod2659
    @mattheendpod2659 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Forgetting Wenger’s impact on the whole culture of English football. Fergusson only ever impacted United.

    • @ih4447
      @ih4447 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wengers impact is a bit of a myth, Fergie was already doing most of what Wenger had apparently introduced to the league. There was a reason United were so far ahead of everyone in the Premier league in the 90s.

    • @mattheendpod2659
      @mattheendpod2659 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ih4447I’ve been ruminating on this reply four a few hours and I’m still unsure to what level I agree. Which, is definitely contrary to my initial comment. Excellent work.

  • @abuwilliams7228
    @abuwilliams7228 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love these 3 man Jordan, Souness & White. Thank you talk sport

  • @Steve-390
    @Steve-390 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Impact on play
    1. Arsene Wenger
    2. Pep
    3. Alex
    Greatest sir Alex his won the the most

    • @winterbird4447
      @winterbird4447 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Klopp with his pressing.

    • @registame2878
      @registame2878 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Only one of those mangers don’t it with there own youth team/academy at it’s core and that is what true sport and more importantly football is truly all about

  • @TheAtticusFinch
    @TheAtticusFinch 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If Artetta wins the league with Arsenal, that would be a bigger achievement than anything Pepe ever done.

  • @NOORAHMED-wi8hy
    @NOORAHMED-wi8hy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    "PL is different animal Pep"
    Not long ago Fergie v Pep debate would not be entertained
    13 Titles,2 CL(26yrs) v 10 Titles,2 CL(13yrs)
    Not far from now Fergie in conversation with Pep may not be entertained 😂

    • @fvresonanator
      @fvresonanator 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ferguson won the European Cup with Aberdeen! Do some research

  • @prototypeprototype8878
    @prototypeprototype8878 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    SIR ALEX IS WITHOUT DOUBT THE BEST MANAGER EVER.. WINNING TREBLE IN EPL AND CUP WINNERS CUP. WITH ABERDEEN BEATING REAL MADRID IN FINAL.. PLAYING WITH NO DEFENDERS AND STILL WINNING,, WINNING EPL WITH JONES, EVANS CLEVERLY, ANDERSON, WELBECK. Rebuilding United 3 times with different era.

    • @abdulqudusibrahim2173
      @abdulqudusibrahim2173 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      He is the greatest but surely not the best

    • @stevechase6671
      @stevechase6671 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I agree, but Paisley deserves a nod too, not only dominating the English game, as did SAF but he managed to do the same in Europe too.

  • @hboss7039
    @hboss7039 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    1st of all Ferguson has the most titles ever. 2nd of all he made 4 generations of world class teams. He spent money but not like how it’s spent now days.

    • @timothymodishi4755
      @timothymodishi4755 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      pep will easily break that record before he retire

    • @bluemoon1716
      @bluemoon1716 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      One word, inflation, spending 30 mil on Rio back in the day is like 60 70 mil now

    • @parster2010
      @parster2010 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@timothymodishi4755 If he goes to PSG or Newcastle - if he doesn't win it this year surely questions need to be asked ?

    • @hboss7039
      @hboss7039 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@wayne8153 100% I agree, during the start of peps reign as city manager, chelsea were inconsistent & klopp just started building his team, only now theirs a lot of competition. Back in the day there was invincible arsenal, old school arsenal, mourinhos chelsea, ancelottis chelsea, Benitez Liverpool teams and even mancinis city sides. Furgie dominated all those eras. I’m saying this as a chelsea fan.

    • @ShiNooBi1986
      @ShiNooBi1986 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Plus look at what Fergie started with and changed compared to the billions Pep started with and billions he later spent.
      From an Arsenal fan, it's not even a conversation. Sir Alex is top

  • @legendkiller72001
    @legendkiller72001 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Totally disagree about Wenger, built very competitive teams on a shoestring not just French players ......brought a brand of football and culture that changed English football.....brilliant manager one of the beat ever

  • @saranshsharma4005
    @saranshsharma4005 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The hate for Pep Guardiola is ridiculous...
    Idk why, the money??
    Well United has spent more and has 1 title in a decade

    • @erikschneider1719
      @erikschneider1719 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well the point is Ferguson didn’t have the financial backing Pep did, especially towards the end, and yet he managed to win UCL on top of it all which pep hasn’t done with city

    • @erikschneider1719
      @erikschneider1719 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Pep is #2 in my books though, as good as they come

    • @ultrascreens5206
      @ultrascreens5206 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Because he uses his Barca reputation where he inherited Messi, Xavi, Iniesta and picks an chooses big clubs that are already winning and willing to spend even more for him. Not that he’s overrated but this has to be kept in mind

    • @oliverboisen7475
      @oliverboisen7475 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@erikschneider1719 Fergie didn't have financial backing? Gimme a break

    • @madmanmoz6365
      @madmanmoz6365 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sir Alex never had and of that £1b. Fergie coached players and made them world class, he spent little compared to what pep and the current spend over the past 10 years. Pep walks straight into teams that are winning, if both mangers didnt have money who would come out on top because i know who would! Pep would have a hard time

  • @maino_Da_Loc
    @maino_Da_Loc 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Disrespect shown to Wenger who changed English football fullstop , created superstar players , built an unbeaten team, built a stadium in 22 yrs yet no regard by him... im not surprised ..its Talksport not much quality in the building

  • @footballhipstertv
    @footballhipstertv 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Pep changed the way every team in the league plays

    • @tlangelanishikwambana8596
      @tlangelanishikwambana8596 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Exactly... Everyone seems to wanna shy away from this🤣🤣🤣

    • @rickyreward226
      @rickyreward226 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      That was arsene Wenger. Pep coppied everything from Wenger

    • @bighands69
      @bighands69 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I have never read such nonsense in all my life. It was the same sort of crap that used to be talked when the Media fanboys were egging on Arsenal the invincibles as being the greatest football team of all time. Some were saying that Arsenal under Wenger was playing better football than Brazil of 1970.
      DO not mention double pivots I am not interested.

    • @footballhipstertv
      @footballhipstertv 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@rickyreward226 are you crazy fam. Wenger TRIED to play tiki-taka at times but that wasnt generally how Arsenal play. Pep got his style from Cruyff and improved it. The prem has never seen domination of the ball to the extent that Man City do

    • @Bulskee
      @Bulskee 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bighands69 😂😂👏

  • @fbheavymetalgamer5455
    @fbheavymetalgamer5455 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wenger changed English football culture. Fitness coaches , food habits , style . Never gets any credit.

  • @danielwhittaker3596
    @danielwhittaker3596 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Sir Alex Ferguson is not only the best manager in premier league history, but one of the greatest managers in world football of all time.

    • @aru8302
      @aru8302 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      World football not... Just premier farmer league when he was a coach.

    • @danielwhittaker3596
      @danielwhittaker3596 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@aru8302 🤣🤣 there’s too many things wrong with that sentence for me to start.
      It’s obvious you know nothing about football, either way too young to remember the Fergie era or a bitter fan of a rival club. Either way, do your research before you make yourself look silly again pal 👍🏻🤣

    • @aru8302
      @aru8302 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@danielwhittaker3596 its easy, Alex can speak other lenguage than English? he is no one out of UK.

    • @danielwhittaker3596
      @danielwhittaker3596 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@aru8302 do you research, Sir Alex has won 48 trophies in his managerial career, the most of ANY manager in WORLD footballing history. What’s speaking multiple languages got to do with anything?
      Carlo Ancelotti can speak 4 different languages and Sir Alex has won more than DOUBLE the trophies.
      Jose Mourinho speaks 6, Sir Alex nearly double the amount of trophies.
      Sir Alex speaks the language of FOOTBALL! 😎
      So once again, before you make yourself look foolish, do your homework! 👍🏻🤣

    • @aru8302
      @aru8302 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@danielwhittaker3596 48 trophies and 10 are charity shields hahaha and 0 out of England... what a coach!! englis media really works well.. but later come the Papa Real Madrid hehe

  • @Ashish-k7s
    @Ashish-k7s ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It’s Pep for sure the GOAT!!

  • @michaelpetersen5239
    @michaelpetersen5239 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Winning pl every year while breaking every ffp rule you can find....sod off city...Pep couldnt lace Fergies boots....

  • @HPmaraurders
    @HPmaraurders 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    fergie and wenger two of the besf for me fergie the all time best pep is good but he's had unlimited money at his disposal so i found it hard to accept him as an great klopp is better tbh

  • @lucafigueiredo6005
    @lucafigueiredo6005 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Jose mourinho. He's won everything and he's been right about everything he's ever said no matter the criticism from the media he's been right

  • @Gizo02
    @Gizo02 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Ferguson is the greater manager for sure. His work at both Aberdeen and Man Utd over 35 years or so, with him continually adapting to new and and rapidly changing football landscapes, and delivering trophy after trophy was incredible. I still rank Mourinho’s managerial career as greater than Guardiola’s as well, largely thanks to his work in Portugal with Leiria and Porto.
    Overall, Guardiola’s entire footballing career has been better than Ferguson’s though. A hugely successful and trophy laden playing career followed by a hugely successful and trophy laden managerial career, beats no major silverware as a player followed by a legendary managerial career. Guardiola reached the pinnacle of club football in terms of winning shed loads of league titles plus multiple European trophies, as both a player and a manager.

    • @dudebro3250
      @dudebro3250 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Big Sam taught Ferguson a lot when football evolved.

    • @neutralfan..1627
      @neutralfan..1627 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dudebro3250 😃😃😃😃😃

    • @satanic6043
      @satanic6043 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Greater manager but just in the premier league for now, out of England is no one.

    • @Gizo02
      @Gizo02 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@satanic6043 also in Scotland breaking up the Old Firm’s dominance, winning 3 league titles and numerous domestic cups, plus notably winning a major European trophy beating Bayern in the quarters and Real Madrid in the final (the last time Real have lost a major European final excluding Super Cups).

    • @satanic6043
      @satanic6043 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Gizo02 Real Madrid never lost a final in a UCL, check it better. You think premier league was at same level of La Liga and Serie A then clearly you are so young or you just are a blind person that never saw other leagues.

  • @cddb5408
    @cddb5408 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Didn't win FAcup in 84 Simon but won it both years either side of that year.
    Also people talk too much about Ferguson not winning anything with ManUtd until his 3rd full season but there were a few hindrances back then that they don't have now.
    The 5 year European ban for English teams from 1985/86 to 1989/90 which not only effected being in competitions to win silverware but it would've effected who teams could buy especially foreign players aren't going to be as attracted to playing in England if they're banned from European competitions so ManUtd would've had weaker squads than they could've had therefore they would've had better chance for silverware in all the years they didn't win anything before his first trophy in 1989/90. First year the European ban is ended, Ferguson wins CupWinnersCup 1990/91.
    You couldn't qualify for CL finishing 2nd out of 22 where as nowadays you can if you finish 4th out of 20 or worse than 4th but win EuropaLeague.
    Plus just being in the CL these days (or since the "CL" era) not even winning anything gives clubs loads of money and attracts big players.
    There are clearly more avenues to get success these days so I can never understand when people come out with comments like this manager wasn't given enough time and try to compare it to the era where Ferguson started managing ManUtd.

  • @thelimey351
    @thelimey351 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Guardiola is clearly a better Manager than Ferguson, we saw what happened when Guardiola’s Barcelona played Ferguson’s Man Utd in two Champions League finals - on both occasions Ferguson got his ass handed to him on a plate. The difference between the two teams on each occasion was shocking…

    • @bobsocks7575
      @bobsocks7575 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      🤦🏼‍♂️

    • @oliverboisen7475
      @oliverboisen7475 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Fergie himself said that Pep's Barca was the hardest opponent he's ever faced

    • @bighands69
      @bighands69 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ferguson also beat Pep once in the semi finals of the Champions league and would have done the same in the final.

    • @thelimey351
      @thelimey351 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@bighands69 _Ferguson also beat Pep once in the semi finals of the Champions league_
      No, he didn't, Pep was not the Manager at the time !

  • @rayfootblogs
    @rayfootblogs 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    In terms of Premier League managers, Fergie is a clear 1st and the Second Best is between Pep, Klopp, Mourinho, Wenger and Anchelotti.

  • @romainesmith7980
    @romainesmith7980 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Wenger will always be #1

  • @michaeltwomey4692
    @michaeltwomey4692 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Pep needs to spend large amount of money. He'd be a different manager if he went to a team with no money. His tactics are designed for elite players, if he doesn't have an elite squad he would struggle. Look at his 1st season. He spent over 100m on wingbacks to get to his tactics level.

    • @charlesanthonywalker2237
      @charlesanthonywalker2237 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Liverpool have elite player and spend close to 100m rn but can't get it right. You can have all the elite players but if they can't play together as a team i.e. PSG. IF you give Pep the right players he will take the team to another level

  • @darrenwong7448
    @darrenwong7448 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Ten hag for me .

  • @Cbart23
    @Cbart23 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sir Alex and Arsene Wenger no question.

  • @63mckenzie
    @63mckenzie 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I'd say Ferguson, simply because he basically started from scratch at both Aberdeen and Utd and built fantastic teams. Pep has taken over 3 massive clubs who were already successful.

    • @smallarmskepa4390
      @smallarmskepa4390 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Pep gets the best jobs at the best clubs because he is the best there is. Simple.

    • @63mckenzie
      @63mckenzie 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@smallarmskepa4390 Maybe if he took over a club like Everton and made them great, I'd agree.

    • @smallarmskepa4390
      @smallarmskepa4390 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@63mckenzie that’s not how life works, little guy. The best at their job go to the top and stay there.

    • @smallarmskepa4390
      @smallarmskepa4390 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@craig5346 Fergie’s side did play against pep’s side in a champions league final and they didn’t touch the ball for 90 minutes. Note that pep’s side had mostly players from their youth academy, iniesta and xavi were fringe players when he came in, and a lot of players that he brought into the first team from when he coached Barcelona B that were worth less than 1mil at the time, for example, Sergio Busquets.

    • @neutralfan..1627
      @neutralfan..1627 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Man city ain't a massive club..
      Never have and will be..👍

  • @amoloney1984
    @amoloney1984 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Arsenal fan here yes no question Ferguson was the top dog but let’s not be dismissive of Wenger who had a stadium debt shackled around him unlike Ferguson who spent a lot of money. He inherited an aging back four and gave them longevity and changed the culture of a club in terms of drinking and he also brought into new training and diet regime methods which changed the face of the game in England

    • @xaviermcknight1510
      @xaviermcknight1510 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      When these guys dismiss all Wengers achievments and write him out of discussions like this. I don't even care anymore. I know how good he is

    • @colingeddes2172
      @colingeddes2172 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wenger and pep r the 2 most influential managers in the last 30 years in the type of brand of football their teams play and played. However as far as the greatest manager overall, ferguson is without doubt the greatest.

  • @cosmiconflict
    @cosmiconflict 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Guardiola by far and undisputedly class and better than fergurson. No trophy that fergy got that guardiola hasn't. And looking at trophies per season guardiola excels

    • @philbarton2832
      @philbarton2832 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The question is "who's the greatest prem manager". Pep isn't even the second best

    • @cosmiconflict
      @cosmiconflict 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@philbarton2832 using what statistics? Who has ever won three epl in a row. Who has won 4 out of five premier leagues?

    • @philbarton2832
      @philbarton2832 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@cosmiconflict Peps only had one team to challenge him in Liverpool, SAF had Blackburn, Newcastle, Liverpool, chelsea, AND city.
      SAF won the treble...with his youth players! 😂 Pep has the backing of a STATE and fails to win the champions league season after season after season.
      It's laughable to even compare the two 🙈

    • @cosmiconflict
      @cosmiconflict 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@philbarton2832 your argument is not reasonable. In those years arsenal won without a defeat. Do you think the game is going backwards or forward? Guardiola has actually changed and dominated the bar in epl. Its not his problem that his quality is far above others. Its ridiculous from u to think the teams then were more competitive than it is now or that football was better then than now. Quite pathetic from football perspective in epl. Physicality and technically epl has been on an increasing trend notdownward

    • @philbarton2832
      @philbarton2832 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@cosmiconflict Yes and SAF beat them all the most. I'm talking about title challengers, pep is only challenged by Liverpool whereas SAF had many challengers and more often than not he beat them all.
      The game has moved forwards in some aspects but gone backwards in others and unfortunately business models like city's, chelseas, PSG'S etc are ruining the entire landscape of football.
      Pep has even said himself that SAF is the greatest ever so the debate is over. Now who knows, maybe pep will be the greatest prem manager someday but I doubt it because he's likely to move elsewhere sooner rather than later as he always does.

  • @danielgregory264
    @danielgregory264 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fergie may if not left much for the new manager to work with in terms of building for the future but maybe he tried and maybe that’s why he retired earlier than he intended! The glazers were not backing fergie either he wanted benzema and instead got Owen!

  • @Carvetii
    @Carvetii 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Can't believe this is even a discussion. Fergie hands down

  • @otobo7641
    @otobo7641 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Happy 30th birthday to the best league in the world 🌎long lives EPL football. been following it since the 02/03 season in Nigeria.

  • @mistazed1170
    @mistazed1170 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Got to be Ferguson. He did it with his hands tied behind his back. Pep has had unlimited finances throughout his career

  • @willhitchcock6227
    @willhitchcock6227 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Arsene changed the standard tho.
    From set piece ferguson football to playing thru the middle. Fergi was successful but served up rubbish for many years

    • @paulEG8
      @paulEG8 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      ferguson is not bad to be fair. i've just looked up his achievements

    • @willhitchcock6227
      @willhitchcock6227 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@paulEG8 haha

  • @MrClean3381
    @MrClean3381 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'd choose the guy who transformed the game.. Pep all the way

  • @Only1Victor
    @Only1Victor 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Look no further than SAF. 13 league titles. Is outstanding. Bill Russel, Nadal. Sickening consistency. Never ran in adversity. GOAT

  • @CraigCairney83
    @CraigCairney83 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Oh come on!! It’s Ferguson hands down.

  • @StefanL66
    @StefanL66 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I do believe, that how ever big Sir Alex was for Manchester United, I also think he is the reason to the problems United has had since he left. I would love to hear you discuss the backside of a huge personality and how much he actually had control over United. My take is that when Sir Alex left the dugout, United didn't have the organisation nor the skill, to handle the business about recruitment and signing players in the transfer market.
    The best manager with the biggest influence in British top flight football is Arsene Wenger. He absolutely changed the dynamic of the league and he is the reason to the development for the Premier League. Absolutely fantastic character. When he and Sir Alex had their clashes I always felt it was a clash of cultures and a fight between the new era and the old...with Sir Alex defending the old british football culture. The outcome will always be evolvement...
    As I wrote..I would love to hear Simon Jordan, Jim White and Graeme Souness have their say on this.
    To make it clear. I'm a fan of Aston Villa, and I've been that since I was 7 years old. It's now 49 years of love to a club, a football league and a football culture.
    I also think that the trio of Jordan, White and Souness are fantastic at Talksport and that's why I want their take on it.

    • @bighands69
      @bighands69 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ferguson has to do with Man Utd's decline. Football clubs cannot stay the best for ever.

    • @hIbeRniAnfc-od2iw
      @hIbeRniAnfc-od2iw 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Your deluded

    • @ltreanor99
      @ltreanor99 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Your crazy dude 😂 the only thing that happened was the glazers when they began appointing bankers and not the professionals in them Pacific roles.

    • @shannaidoo130
      @shannaidoo130 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ltreanor99 Ferguson was greedy.Greats like Robbo, Bruce, Keane were not asked to stay on as coaches with the club. I have been a fan since '79 and Arsene Wenger and Bobby Robson are my favorites.

  • @robertdennehy7948
    @robertdennehy7948 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Outside of the Prem Pep, Wenger, Mourinho, Conte could never do an Aberdeen...what Sir Alex did their in breaking down and challenging the old firm is truly unbelievable not to mention the European Cup win he had their. Those managers have never did that maybe Wenger but the others go were the money is

    • @lovezooevents
      @lovezooevents 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Mourinho - porto - inter

    • @robertdennehy7948
      @robertdennehy7948 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lovezooevents good point although Porto have always been the best or at least one of the best in Portugal bit to win a champions league with them deserves credit, if he pulls something big off with Roma id be very impressed that conference cup he won doesent fool anyone

    • @rohithraman6488
      @rohithraman6488 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@robertdennehy7948 Porto were the best in Portugal but many of the players were taken from mid table Portuguese clubs. Ricardo Carvalho (one of the best CBs in the world in his prime) was third choice centre back at Porto when Jose arrived

    • @rohithraman6488
      @rohithraman6488 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@robertdennehy7948 Porto were 5th in the Portuguese league when Jose came

  • @footyfiend3904
    @footyfiend3904 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'd have Pep second. You can't deny the impact he's had on the PL. The games played different now. Feel for some defenders and keepers in this era though, they're liable to made look worse due to more being asked of them with the pressure of having to be good technically on the ball rather than just defending. Great defenders in the past like Vidic would be made to look not as good, he was a great defender but wasn't at all technically, hence why rio was a perfect partner for him.

    • @znhait
      @znhait 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      So, in your effort to say how defenders weren't technical back then, you make it a point to say that United had two CBs that complemented each other. Defenders weren't asked to play out from the back as much, so it's impossible to say who would have been good at it. Also, the whole idea of building up from the back was just an evolution because the back pass to the keeper was outlawed.

    • @smallarmskepa4390
      @smallarmskepa4390 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Those sides of old where defenders were told to kick the ball as far as possible wouldn’t even get a touch of the ball against a side of today that plays out.

  • @sharifbadmash8994
    @sharifbadmash8994 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    In time whan peps finshes his time at city people appricate what a great man manager and don't forget a fantastic coach which Ferguson was never
    So as far as long lasting legacy definitely peps the man

  • @cddb5408
    @cddb5408 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Guardiola's got loads to do to equal Ferguson. Guardiola hasn't won CL since managing best ever club team over a decade ago and I can't get over some of his glaring mistakes like starting Sterling vs Chelsea in CL final 2021 (and FAcup semi-final).

  • @ranendranarayanbose7126
    @ranendranarayanbose7126 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    with monetary backing: Pep because Sir Alex is unproven. He never got the backing. His teams were inferior to Barcelona's 2009 & 2011 sides even on paper before the finals.
    without money: Sir Alex is a proven manager. Pep never managed a club that was not already close to the top of the respective leagues.
    building clubs up: Sir Alex. Hand down. ManUtd were in crisis when he took over.
    Longevity: Sir Alex
    Hence, comparing Pep and Sir Alex isn't a fair one. Very different managers. Klopp vs Sir Alex is more realistic.

  • @chriswilliamson7694
    @chriswilliamson7694 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It can't all be about the trophy count and nothing else - BUT in the case of Ferguson it's kind of hard to look past it simply because his is so much higher than anyone else's in the Premier League era. I don't think Ferguson is the greatest British manager ever, but in the PL era it has to be him and that's unlikely to change. You won't get a British manager in charge of a top side in this country for that long again, never mind a foreign one. Guardiola might well be greater than Ferguson overall by the time he's done, but not in the context of the English top flight.

    • @ltreanor99
      @ltreanor99 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      So we just going to overlook the fact Sir Alex won many trophies under the glazers too. Don't get me wrong pep is a brilliant manger but doesn't even come close to Sir Alex unless he wins the tribble or just the champions league.

  • @JW-be8wf
    @JW-be8wf 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The greatest PL manager is Alex Ferguson. The greatest manager to ever grace the PL is Pep. He is not the greatest in PL but take Pep's entire body of work and he is the best manager PL has ever seen.

  • @douglasmuir2617
    @douglasmuir2617 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm 58 from Hammersmith and Chelsea FC... credit to Ferguson definitely the best EVER football manager (it hurts to admit) but proud I've Scottish parents!!!😎😎😎😎😄