Almost everything in this video said to be fake is fake except for that white haro. In 1984 there was a break between second and third generation Haro where the first part of 1984 Haro had some frames made in Taiwan, not by Torker that were produced without serial numbers and without the Chevron stamps. All 3rd generation 1984 Haro frames were stamped with the Chevron, but not prior to. So that white frame in this video said to be fake, is not. It is in fact a Taiwan made second generation haro master.
Agree with u..but that 84 looks off the tubing looks thick hi ten and shape of drop out looks off..all torker made used 4130 thin wall but rest looks good hard to say with out seeing up close or better pics...sad so many fakes out here parts etc
The '84 Haro Master frameset in the video is a Velo 2000 freestyler, which was made by the French Haro, Hutch and GT importer under official licence from Haro, back in the day. That is why is looks very similar to a Gen 2 or Gen 3 Torker or Anlun made '84 Haro Master. However, it is heavier and appears to be made out of hi-tensile steel tubing and not chromoly tubing. It did have Haro Master decals on it, as pictured, but it was not advertised by the seller as an original Haro frameset and I bought it knowing exactly what I was buying, as I have other Velo 2000 frames and wanted to add this one to my oldschool collection. It's not a Haro, but it's still a really nice frameset.🙂
What are those blue rims behind you? I cannot find a 29in set with a blue like that. Always shitty blue anodized which just isn't blue enough for my bike
Hola brother saludos . Ahora es que ustedes notan eso?? En Venezuela e visto toda clase de marcos pirata y todas las marcas hace muchos años, de marcos vitages como gt, dino, Haro, moongose, ya eso es viejo
I used to have a Hutch Cruiser with Redline flight cranks, even had the banned Hitch pedals (vicious). It had a titanium bottom bracket. I sold that bike in 1989 for 100 dollars. 🤦♂️
I had the Raleigh team pro burner the holy grail of Raleighs .it was mind blowing their was only a few made.did the same sold it in parts for nothing near it's worth 😢😢
when did the fake parts start coming out ? i bought a green new old stock 85 haro master from a guy in new york ( he is/was a member of pinkbike ) in 2009 , bolts have never been tightened, everything is still in the box that he shipped it to me in
Yeah shame on them I grew up seeing the 80s redline . Yeah that sticker is a fake. Yeah great job . Yeah making fake gt logos completely rubbish fakery ..
Thanks for putting this together, only way to stop these frauds is to keep posting about them. Buyer beware! So much fake shit coming out of Malaysia and Thailand.
I have the Gary fisher airbob in blue and white , completely stock , I bought it brand new and shortly after I bought it the guy in the bike shop told me how someone had ordered a Hoffman evel keniebel in white , they paid for it in full around 8 months before it arrived in the UK , upon its arrival the shop contacted him and he said he no longer wanted it as he had broken his arm and leg learning to ride BMX and it put him off for good . The shop owner said " he wants to sell it , are you interested " Bare in mind it was a £900.00 back in 95 ( I think that was the year ) . I told them how I'd spent £449.99 on the Gary fisher I'd just bought from them so I could t really afford it ( I was 19 or 20 ) , I then said , would you mind saving it if I pay weekly instalments on it ( I lived in the flat next door to the bike shop and they knew me and all my extended family as we all lived on the same street as the shop or just around the corner ) He said yes and went into the back and came out with the bike , he said just take it now it gets it out if our way, I was ecstatic , I adjusted things on the bike and went to the dirt jumps the same day , that bike was so heavy and the weight of it actually forced me to get better at riding , I had to pedal faster ,pull harder etc etc , I think the bike weighs in at 45 pounds ( or more ) mine ended up heavier because I added a 990 mount and brake to the forks , I road it into the ground , one of the best bikes ever , Hoffman BMX bikes that were made in the USA were unbeatable .
Almost everything in this video said to be fake is fake except for that white haro. In 1984 there was a break between second and third generation Haro where the first part of 1984 Haro had some frames made in Taiwan, not by Torker that were produced without serial numbers and without the Chevron stamps. All 3rd generation 1984 Haro frames were stamped with the Chevron, but not prior to. So that white frame in this video said to be fake, is not. It is in fact a Taiwan made second generation haro master.
Thanks for the info. Appreciate it.
Agree with u..but that 84 looks off the tubing looks thick hi ten and shape of drop out looks off..all torker made used 4130 thin wall but rest looks good hard to say with out seeing up close or better pics...sad so many fakes out here parts etc
The '84 Haro Master frameset in the video is a Velo 2000 freestyler, which was made by the French Haro, Hutch and GT importer under official licence from Haro, back in the day. That is why is looks very similar to a Gen 2 or Gen 3 Torker or Anlun made '84 Haro Master. However, it is heavier and appears to be made out of hi-tensile steel tubing and not chromoly tubing. It did have Haro Master decals on it, as pictured, but it was not advertised by the seller as an original Haro frameset and I bought it knowing exactly what I was buying, as I have other Velo 2000 frames and wanted to add this one to my oldschool collection. It's not a Haro, but it's still a really nice frameset.🙂
I spotted two sets of fake Hoffman bars on eBay , they were so fake 😳and for 100 plus usd 🤯
I’ll have to see I can find them.
Pour les premiers cadres Haro sans les chevrons gravé, on pouvait savoir avec le numéro de série qui commençais par H et l'année exemple H 85 xxxx.
Thanks for watching
What are those blue rims behind you? I cannot find a 29in set with a blue like that. Always shitty blue anodized which just isn't blue enough for my bike
Hey, those are just shiny side 24” with the sign reflecting the blue.
Gotta be aware of those dee-culls bro ha ha.
🤣
Hola brother saludos . Ahora es que ustedes notan eso?? En Venezuela e visto toda clase de marcos pirata y todas las marcas hace muchos años, de marcos vitages como gt, dino, Haro, moongose, ya eso es viejo
Thankfully we don’t see too many here any more. Not worth counterfeiting these days.
Have I been saying HARO wrong my whole life or is it pronounced HARROW? 🤔🤔🤔
🤣I’m Australian mate, what do you expect.
Saying haro wrong. 😂
🤠
For people with taste, this is quite obvious
And for everyone else there is TH-cam. 😎
I used to have a Hutch Cruiser with Redline flight cranks, even had the banned Hitch pedals (vicious). It had a titanium bottom bracket. I sold that bike in 1989 for 100 dollars. 🤦♂️
😟 sorry for your loss.
I had the Raleigh team pro burner the holy grail of Raleighs .it was mind blowing their was only a few made.did the same sold it in parts for nothing near it's worth 😢😢
@@chrisfisher7288 sounds awesome, wish we had a time machine lol
That 84 looks like a torker
Thanks for watching.
Thanks for the heads Up brother, love your channel.
Cheers bud.
I'm constantly seeing people asking nos/vintage prices for repop parts
Prices have gone crazy for sure. But these parts are not even repop. They are straight up fakes.
If you know what you’re looking at you should spot a fake
You are absolutely right. But there are plenty of people who don’t know what to look for. 😎
when did the fake parts start coming out ?
i bought a green new old stock 85 haro master from a guy in new york ( he is/was a member of pinkbike ) in 2009 , bolts have never been tightened, everything is still in the box that he shipped it to me in
Personally seeing various things since about 2012.
Have seen this all and know the difference. But they are remaking gen1 gyros. Wondering on the quality as it is hard to get a decent one complete. Nos
Not sure.
Yeah shame on them I grew up seeing the 80s redline . Yeah that sticker is a fake. Yeah great job .
Yeah making fake gt logos completely rubbish fakery ..
Appreciate it.
Mr Thailand on facebook comes to mind.
Thanks for the heads up
Thanks for putting this together, only way to stop these frauds is to keep posting about them. Buyer beware! So much fake shit coming out of Malaysia and Thailand.
For sure. Just want to make people aware of what’s around. Thanks for watching.
This guy is giving people the wrong info
If u can't notice fake parts.
Maybe u should find a new hobby.
I don’t necessarily agree. I like that new people come into our hobby. It’s about knowing they exist and researching what you buy.
Thanks for share !!👍👍
No problem. 😎
well my frame is a fake gary fisher lmao
Super rare.
I have the Gary fisher airbob in blue and white , completely stock , I bought it brand new and shortly after I bought it the guy in the bike shop told me how someone had ordered a Hoffman evel keniebel in white , they paid for it in full around 8 months before it arrived in the UK , upon its arrival the shop contacted him and he said he no longer wanted it as he had broken his arm and leg learning to ride BMX and it put him off for good .
The shop owner said " he wants to sell it , are you interested "
Bare in mind it was a £900.00 back in 95 ( I think that was the year ) .
I told them how I'd spent £449.99 on the Gary fisher I'd just bought from them so I could t really afford it ( I was 19 or 20 ) , I then said , would you mind saving it if I pay weekly instalments on it ( I lived in the flat next door to the bike shop and they knew me and all my extended family as we all lived on the same street as the shop or just around the corner )
He said yes and went into the back and came out with the bike , he said just take it now it gets it out if our way, I was ecstatic , I adjusted things on the bike and went to the dirt jumps the same day , that bike was so heavy and the weight of it actually forced me to get better at riding , I had to pedal faster ,pull harder etc etc , I think the bike weighs in at 45 pounds ( or more ) mine ended up heavier because I added a 990 mount and brake to the forks , I road it into the ground , one of the best bikes ever , Hoffman BMX bikes that were made in the USA were unbeatable .