Duck Hunting Club Secrets | Planting for Ducks | Tips to Compete!
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- There's things that big duck hunting clubs do to get more ducks. Some of those things are totally possible even on a small budget. On this video Joel shares his experience with planting and managing property for ducks. Joel talks about corn, rice, and other agricultural crops that the average person is unable to do, but also gives you some great alternatives that can actually be better. He talks about moist soil habitat, hunting fallow fields, and planting millet. These are all great things you can do to create duck habitat.
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Have you ever planted food for duck? How'd it work for you?
Planted millet a couple weeks ago, hoping for it to be a good season
I planted about 10 acres of Japanese millet a few years ago in a lake that I own. It has a pipe that can lower the water. Had a great stand come up and everything was going good. Then the Canadian geese came in. They would fly in after shooting hours and fly out before shooting hours. They ate it completely up.
THEY EAT AT NIGHT.
Mike Ries yes. I often hear them flying over my house at night as well. Can hear them honking
The report I got today is bad. One of the venues i hunt has been flooded since last year. Nothing planted. It got worse.
They sowed rice. Got to where its just making heads and FROST. Rats. It frosted a good three weeks early this year. Everything is 3 weeks early im a beekeeper scrambling to get ready for winter. Plan for some ice guys.
Thanks for keeping videos coming!
Thanks bro... more to come!
Really do enjoy your videos. I will say thou, I am against the use of flooding unharvested corn fields. Right now it is consider legal, but I do believe one could argue the flooding of said field as it is manipulated,.....flooding corn is not a farming practice....I do however believe in moist soil applications. My huge concern is that the migration could be altered. With all that said...great video and looking for more to come.
Yes it’s a hot button issue being debated by many. We haven’t planted corn for ducks. Some of our farms/farmers have planted it for commercial purposes. I don’t think it was as good as rice or moist soil. I know that it’s more prevalent in the Midwest. Your views are held by many. I don’t disagree but I’m still a little on the fence. There’s a fine line in all of it. I will be doing another video in the future discussing my thoughts (and from others) about it. Thanks for the comment!
Surviving Duck Season have done a few...myself.....moist soil and rice....the way to go....and yes sir it’s a hot topic......
Great information you hear a lot about flooding corn fields. I like the idea of flooding native grassland for the winter.
Buckeye Hunting And Fishing yeah works great!
Thanks for the video. Really enjoyed it. I am transitioning from a big open water lease to manipulating and flooding my own agricultural field. Starting simple with about an acre of millet (planting in August) and half of an acre of field grass variety. Some weeds, some seed producing plants. Really appreciated listening and getting some validation. Kind of nerve wracking going out on a limb and doing something different.
That's great! Check out the links in the description and keep it for future reference. Glad the video was helpful!
Surviving Duck Season will do! thanks so much for the response.
I'll plant for dove in small patches. corn, maize, milo and millet
Jimmy Huckleberry must plant weed... Every duck he shoots at is high 🤦♂️
Kevin Blake Weldon you ain’t right!😂
Thinking about putting ryegrass, millet and smart weed around our little 3 acre honey hole?
If you can find a decent price on smartweed I'd love to know about it. Last I checked it was like $30 an oz.
@@SurvivingDuckSeason I went with Provo Millet for the moment. Just got done putting it down. Pond came up, so didnt have as much mud flat as I would normally. But Iayed down 50lbs on what I could and all around where the blind will be this year. I have some Japanese Millet coming at the end of the week. I'm hoping enough will get down through the natural grass and enough will pop in the mud. It should recede a few feet in the next few days.
Sounds good. 👌
@@SurvivingDuckSeason www.Kestersnursery.com has all different species of smartweed.
Rice or corn
Hey Joel, I've watched a bunch of videos and talked with guys over the years about this and want to get your thoughts. Are large clubs north of Arkansas short stopping ducks from entering Arkansas? Won't mention club names but over the years have noticed large clubs north of Arkansas are holding so many birds each year they have no reason to fly south unless there's a freeze. Wanted to get your thoughts. Thanks!
Ducks have always migrated for the same reasons. Different species migrate for different reasons too- but for the most-part, they fly south to find food- usually because it is covered by snow. If there is more available food in an area that they are able to access, then they can stay in that area. If you look at the harvest data for the last 30 years, Arkansas is (even this past season) very consistent with shooting the same percentage of the overall flyway harvest. Every year Arkansas ALWAYS shoots the most mallards, and last year Arkansas shot more total ducks than any other state in North America. With all of that said, things are different... Louisiana has taken a nose dive in their harvest numbers in the last 10 years and last duck season they shot 10% of what they did 20 years ago. That's horrible for Louisiana hunters, but it's also really bad for Arkansas hunters- less ducks passing through... and then back through. Looking north of Arkansas, there is enough sanctuary land to contain all of the ducks in the entire country. Combine that with the access to food (because of private land owners 'helping' the ducks) and warm weather patterns, it definitely gives all southern hunters a reason for concern.
@@SurvivingDuckSeason appreciate you getting back to me. Always like gaining as much info and thoughts on all of these!
Have you ever tried planting oats for ducks
I've planted lots of stuff for ducks, but not oats!
Corn, corn,corn.
Where do you find that poly hose that you hooked to your 3" discharge? Do you have any idea of what it costs roughly?
It’s commonly referred to as poly pipe. If you live in farm county, you could ask a local farmer. But here’s a link to try www.usgr.com/poly-pipe-irrigation/poly-pipe-irrigation/
How do you do it legally the right way
Do you happen to have a link to the poly pipe?
Poly pipe is something you would find in a farming supply store. Ones that actually provide for legit farmers. I’ll see if I can find a website for you so you can order it. It comes in 1/4 mile rolls. But it’s really not that big... just pretty heavy.
Surviving Duck Season Really appreciate the help.
@@SurvivingDuckSeason Yea, would love to know how to get my hands on a roll!
I plant Japanese millet and it works good not great
4:04 did he just combine a tree?
No I think it was sesbania ( coffee weed).
Should I mow and disc a reoccurring millet field to allow for more open water
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Hey Joel, we hunted together last fall. Check the profile pic for one of our hunts. Anywho, how do you think the golden millet handles the occasional flooding? The spot I am trying to develop will flood when occasional heavy rains cause a nearby creek to get out of its banks. I have some structures in place to mitigate it but it’s gonna happen from time to time. I have Japanese millet in it now (and rice) and they do ok but would take the higher yield of golden millet if it will work in this setting.
Thanks,
Bruce
Hello sir, I am 14 and live on 42 acres of mostly woods and creeks and I found a damp area near a trail that’s always flooded Im thinking if I can dig it out enough and plant some barnyard grass and other things I can get ducks to come in just want to ask someone their thoughts.
Can you point me to a source or brand name for the flexible "poly pipe" you showed in the video. I'm not getting a similar produce when I google poly pipe. thanks
Did you ever find it? I been looking but can't find it anywhere?
Hey what part of Arkansas are you?
Love your videos Joel. Do you guys do any guiding for ducks?
Yes, Check out our website... www.lostbridgeduckclub.com
What stores can you buy golden millet from?
Find your local farm / garden store. You will have to find it near an agricultural area. Good luck!
Mack’s Prairie Wings sells it in 50lb bags
How high of water do you want when planting a stand of Millet
Dry when you plant and 12-18 inches flooded for hunting.
Surviving Duck Season Thank You!
You’re welcome!
Great video! One thing I didn’t hear mentioned was the ratoon (second) rice crop after first harvest . The ratoon rice crop is about 1/3 Of the first yield. So, If a variety of rice normally yields 9000 pounds per acre, the ratoon crop would leave 3000, plus any waste grain laying on the ground. Do y’all ever leave that for the ducks?
There's a tremendous amount of info in this vid! Extremely interesting and informative! A lot of stuff I never knew, and I've hunted ducks for a long time. I'm not in favor of flooding unharvested corn for hunting or especially in refuges and waterfowl sanctuaries. I've planted japanese millet a few times. It was easy and worked well. Thanks for another fantastic video!
Thanks so much! Yeah I agree with you about the refuges and sanctuaries. Although I haven't hunted over unharvested corn, I'm on the fence about it. Just a fine line that if were made illegal, could impact other things that I don't want changed.
@@SurvivingDuckSeason I understand your point.
Hank Andrews our lawmakers tend to throw out the baby with the bath water. Or use one thing to get rid of other freedoms we want to keep.
@@SurvivingDuckSeason It's too bad, but you are so right!
Your from Arkansas I'm from east tx anyone know when is a good time to start on the plot ? I'm wanting to put rice and Japanese millet hopefully I will see something out there I have never seen a water fowl out in my area luckily the neighbors pond floods our area figured I would give it a shot and if I don't see anything at least the kids and I will build memories doing this project together
Joel I love your Channel and I enjoy watching your videos. I know you spent much of your Career guiding on some beautiful elite private duck clubs which is awesome totally jealous. Honestly though what is the difference between food plots and baiting? If you plant with the absolute intention to not Harvest the crop to attract wildlife is that not basically the same as just dumping out 50lb sacks of corn and calling it a day? This is a legal loophole that has been exploited by Duckclubs and landowners for way to long. Wildlife doesnt belong to us as hunters OR as landowners. They don’t belong to anyone period meaning they should remain in essence wild. Hunters are a funny group in general. Our Numbers are dwindling, hunter disputes and trespassing seems to be at a all time level, the politicians hate our guts. Yet we do everything in our power to make the sport as exclusive as humanly possible. Many people dont hunt because the opportunity of a successful hunt just is hardly not an option. Private Clubs, Private impoundments have absolutely destroyed waterfowl hunting in certain areas of the USA. For average blue collar ed weekend warriors. The guys that aren’t worth millions and can’t afford to buy 50k acres. Example on Maryland’s famous Chesapeake bay region rich in waterfowl history you would be hard pressed to find a puddle duck on the waters of the bay itself. The clubs and impoundments flood standing cornfields and the ducks never leave. I love Capitalism, buy every single acre of land you can afford. Just keep the land ethically and reasonably wild. Landowners would still have plenty of ducks with Normal Farming practices and just simply offering a refuge for wildlife. Why anyone needs to bait is beyond me. Maybe I sound like a sandy old man. Lol possibly maybe I am just bitter and jealous. In fact I know I am. I would love to see the sport thrive and to see more kids enjoy it. You cant take a kid out to freeze his or her rump off to see nothing or shoot one duck and expect them to be excited. Not with all the things kids have to stimulate them these days. I cant make a difference I dont have the money or influence to but guys like you do.
Great tips for those who can do it! We can't plant and flood crops here
Thanks... you're in Minnesota ?
@@SurvivingDuckSeason yes only way we can hunt flooded crops if we get a lot of rain. It happens rarely
Hey Joel,
I love the breakdown for the different types of food for ducks and the pounds per square acre. I find this extremely helpful! Have you ever done a breakdown or research for flooded timber like this? I feel like you could have an entire video dedicated to that with your knowledge. As far as pounds per acre in a field can you related that to the timber on pounds per acres (educated guess on trees per acre) by pounds of acorns that typically fall off an oak per season? Also in your experience which types of Oaks are the best for the timber? Do you recommend people to plant oaks after the end of duck season or refer people to CRP/WRP programs? A loaded comment to say the least, but no one besides you is breaking down things as it relates to duck hunting on youtube. I'm a fellow duck nerd as you are with a million questions on how to improve duck hunting for the future. Thanks again!
The thing about a forest is that you have many varieties of trees at different ages. I’m not sure you could ever figure it out. Ducks don’t solely come to timber for feed. That’s something else to consider. There’s probably a video to do about it though. At least about why ducks use timber. And different types of flooded forest habitat.
@@SurvivingDuckSeason I appreciate you getting back to me. Kind of going off the Jeff Farmer theory if you build it they will come. He's strategically planting white oaks on bare ground to create wildlife habitat. Arkansas Wildlife -S5.E7, Acorn Wildlife Superfood and the History of Duck Hunting in Arkansas mentions acorns from Oak trees are considered the cheeseburger of the woods. It caught my attention. Always like to hear your thoughts/opinions. Appreciate it Joel!
Us Yankees have found that if you gently sow the soil with duck eggs then fertilize them well with a new product called Round-down you get superior duck harvests. Here at Round-down we are dedicated to waterfowl. Our product is designed to enhance your hunting opportunities with the added bonus that the product knocks down every game warden that sets foot onto the treated property. It's safe and effictive. Targets only them pesky guys with badges. 😎
Great video Joel! Thanks for the shoutout! Glad to see that I was using the same materials as you use when researching up for our project. I love hunting our natural moist soil swamps here in VA as well, one day I would love to have a place to manage some.
Virginia Outdoors Unlimited good luck on your project. I’m looking forward to seeing your next video on it!
Awesome video. Would Golden Millet do well in colder states like in WI? Would deer enjoy millet as well?
Thanks! Yes you would need to plant earlier than we do in the south. I have never noticed deer eating millet.
Get some Japanese Millet... you won't regret it... that's what goes in my hole... give it 90 days to mature
I am looking at starting this on my property... but already have a good sized beaver pond. what would you recommend to plant for beaver ponds? millet and rice?
Planting 20lbs of wild millet (barnyard grass) this week in my swamp that is in a draw down period.., hopefully it grows well 👍🏻
Really good info!! The Susquehanna Flats has tons of smart weed and the depth up here is perfect! I Can’t plant anything but fun to try to find the natural stuff and hunt over it.
Duckalope Outdoors ducks love smartweed. It sure can be tough to walk through!!
Corn, milo, millet. Seemed to work but lot of ag around us so wasn’t the duck magnet we wanted but it helped.
is there a link for the particular polypipe you bought to extend your water pump runs?
Should see what picked fields look like around here like they just mowed it
Straight up the best waterfowl seed mix is the bird seed mix from ACE Hardware like you'd put in your backyard feeder sorgum, millet, safflower, corn. Drill 12# to acre that works out to $3/acre.
The gemination rates on bird seed can be far less than the seed for planting. If you get an old batch a lot of it may not come up.
The 8 acres pond we have on the farm works best when we leave it to over grow with smart weed. It’s a low area in the center of a 120 acre field. We farm up to the edge of it but not thru it. It’s allowed to over grow naturally. But has grain planted up to its edge.After harvest we flood it up. Great video as usual, keep em coming. GOD BLESS
That's awesome! Thanks for sharing and God bless!
We have planted corn japanese millet brown top millet and milo. Tried to get the Golden millet from Macks a couple of times but they were sold out. My favorite is milo or corn . Actually its acorns too bad it takes 10-15 years for even butternut oaks to start producing much .
I normally pick up golden millet from farmers co-op. If yours doesn’t carry it, they can probably order it. Yeah those baby oak trees take sooooo long!
we have also have a lot of natural smartweed and have planted other natural foods in the past like duck potatoes and wild rice but they never did well. They like sunflowers too but like you said it can't be manipulated. usually what we plant is too wet for corn till its too late to plant it . A lot of the famed fields have soybeans but know of many who plant it just for ducks.
I’ve never tried wild rice or duck potato or sago (heard that was a good one too). Soybean is our least favorite to duck hunt. It’s fed out too fast and they decompose and sour very very quickly. We do have a lot of ground that gets planted in beans because that’s what the farmer wants,. We deal with it and just know it doesn’t last long.
Is planting food specifically for harvesting ducks considered illegal baiting under federal regulations?
No. As long as you follow the proper guidelines it’s legal.
Thanks for another great vid, now if I only had some property to plant. Great tips and thanks for sharing.
cf outdoors thanks 👍🏻
Love the vid, got me interested in maybe planting a little half acre spot of millet, but what do you do after the season is over? do you leave it or till it up?
Leave it. Good chance it will regrow if you have good conditions. If not, then you can disk it up in August and replant.
It'll be nice to have my own land.
Do you have a code for high n dry waiters?
Golden Millet even works in Ohio
Can’t wait to plant some millet here in the next few weeks. Good luck and God Bless.
Brian Smith Sounds Great! I’m so ready for the season to get here!
Good stuff man
Thanks 👍🏻💪🏻👊🏻
Wouldn’t flooding it technically be considered manipulation? Not being a smart ass just curious why that isn’t considered manipulation. We actually just planted one of our ponds with Japanese millet haha
It’s not according to USF&W.
@@SurvivingDuckSeason nice
Good video 👍🦆
millet
Love the brown SSAR cap you’re wearing out in the field. I wear one just like it out in the duck woods
I've almost wore mine out! I sure missed going to SSAR this year.
Surviving Duck Season, Me too, would’ve been my first year staffing!
Thanks Joel 😊‼️
We plant corn every year and flood the standing corn. I’ve found it does better than other type crops for some reason ducks like standing corn better than combined. When it gets cold ducks really look for the corn than other crops. Last year I learned this even if all the corn has been ate the still come in there looking for more. Another thing we’ve learned is ducks prefer corn in our area we’ve planted millet milo and rice and we kill more ducks in the holes with corn. I have a theory and it’s don’t give the ducks a reason to leave have them cover and food and they won’t leave.
Goose Flat Waterfowlers I promise you they like the standing corn because there’s literally 133 times more corn compared to if you harvested it. Even in a small 10 acre field your comparison is 1350 pounds left after harvested to 90,000 pounds still on the stalk. That’s why it’s very popular to do in some parts of the country. What state are you in?
I’m in Northwest Alabama. I also found that in our flooded timber holes they will tear up some acorns. Every crop we plant we leave it standing when we flood. To me ducks in our area like corn followed by milo rice millet and they will not touch soybeans. Another good attractant in spots is duck weed I’ve found that Gadwalls in particular love that stuff and spots we’ve got that has that on it they’ll be there more than mallards and other ducks.
Goose Flat Waterfowlers thanks for sharing your experience. 👍🏻
Learned a lot in this video. Good video, Joel.
Thanks Aaron! Glad it helped.
I own a 100+ acres on the big muddy river in the southern part of Illinois an I cant plant anything early due to spring rain an is usually to late to plant anything I think any ideas how I can make it better?
If you can't control the water, you may try millet once the water recedes. You should be fine planting up to the first week or so of August.
Thanks for the info I'll definitely try that out this year an see what happens, good luck this season 👍
@@adamperry6928 ...if you need help... I'm right across the Mississippi 😉
Do y’all ever plant rice? If so Do you treat for stink bugs or have any pest problems?
We have a commercial farming operation involved with most of our hunting property. Being in Arkansas, rice is our biggest crop. Check out the link on dealing with insects and rice. www.uaex.edu/publications/pdf/mp192/chapter-12.pdf
@@SurvivingDuckSeason Thanks for the link! Hopefully Hurricane Laura doesn't lodge any of our rice in AR. Praying for the best
Perrin Partee yes indeed!
How many acres do you need to plant to have a meaningful crop?
Good Question... I have planted a little as a half acre and had success. It all depends on the amount of food that is actually produced, and the amount of ducks in your area. Smaller food plots have the potential of being eaten out very quickly. I had a 5 acre millet plot that was eaten out in a day and a half! But I had probably 10K ducks in it too!
@@SurvivingDuckSeason Thanks for the response! My brothers and I are trying to plant millet around a farm pond but the water is so high there is very little area to plant. Trying to dig out a section so we can control the water depth a bit more.
love the vids brother
Kindred Spirit TV great... thanks for the comments!! 👍🏻💪🏻👊🏻🇺🇸
This was helpful. Thanks Joel.
2021 will be my third year of duck hunting.
Awesome, glad you enjoyed!