Hi, it's Max. I wrote this movie. This is the modern day equivalent of a Friar's Club Roast. Feel totally honored. Can't stop laughing. Also, fuck you. And thank you.
Pretending it shouldn't be pointed out just cause you're tired of hearing about it..ignoring that you only hear about it cause it was such a heavy thing that continued to happen till recently....and for other cases, still even now.....is also cliche
60% percent into the movie it would stop, then there would be a shot of me watching the movie and drinking a beer, then it slowly zooms out to see his corpse, throat slashed with a bloodied neck of a beer bottle sitting next to me.
Andrews character felt so real. This wasn't really a super hero movie it was a "the quiet kid gets actual telekinesis" movie and it was really well done. I think anyone could predict how the movie might end asoon as the powers are discovered, but that only added to the tragedy for me.
That "Dramatic dolly shot" sin is actually one of the best parts of the whole film. It shows how obsessed and dedicated he is to making a movie, that he pretends to be asleep, but you can actually see him moving the camera dramatically in the security footage! If you watch that scene you can see the tripod and camera slowly start to slide forward. He just became obsessed with documenting his greatness and giving a narrative and trying to tell a story. It's when you become certain that yeah, some of the filming before was a bit ridiculous and it was on purpose. Like the final fight, he grabs every camera he can! He wants to filmed, he needs it. It validates him. I need to rewatch this one...
Agreed. I remember seeing this movie when it was new on a whim, (I don't watch movies that often, least of all in the theater), and really enjoying it, but more or less forgot about it until I started watching Cinema Sins videos and hearing him reference it from time to time. It's one of those movies that actually has some depth and focuses more on telling the story than just hitting a "movie moments" checklist, yet it's rare to see anyone talk about it or even remember it......
7:16- The characters do have a form of invulnerability, provided they anticipate an attack and focus their power to protect themselves with an invisible barrier. This is shown early in the film when the three are learning about their powers and Andrew stabs a fork into Matt's hand, yet it bends without breaking the skin. Andrew clearly says, "When things are gonna hit you, as long as you're ready, they will not hurt you because of the barrier". This is how Matt and Andrew survived the thrown bus and crashing through buildings among other things in their city fight, because they had time to react. However, when they are struck without time to react, such as by the lightning that killed Steve, the barrier doesn't activate. That's why Andrew was damaged by that street lamp he didn't see and how Matt was able to stab him with that statue from behind. He was distracted by his rage, not paying attention.
The creator of the movie said Andrew could not possibly control the lighting, it was meant to stir conversation, so when Andrew said he didn’t do anything he really didn’t do anything it was a legit freak accident, the one guy literally goes up there to tell him it isn’t safe
@@tomtucker9426 , it was connected to andrew's emotions. When his voice becomes more angry, he accidentally summoned a lighting bolt that struck steve.
Is it canon Steve didn’t know he could protect himself? When Andrew was explaining it Steve was zoned out recording the lady outside. Because of that he died from the lightning, if that’s canon that’s some hella details.
@@alexvaughan1056 As far as I know, yes, it appears to be consistent with what's shown in the film. It's possible that a powerful enough attack might break through the barrier, but it was never established or implied that this was the case when Steve was stabbed. There was no precedent set & confirmed for the barrier being broken earlier in the story either. Everything I've seen leads me to be pretty certain that the barrier is based on reactivity and does not activate automatically or independently of the character's will..
6:28 Funny thing, Andrew's Dad was ORIGINALLY going to be killed by Andrew ripping off all of his other limbs, much like how he did to that one spider. The filmmakers however didn't put it in believing that the scene would've been too gruesome.
Interesting! But still: while that may have been a prudent decision, it was a poor one. It would have been a pretty neat thematic repetition for the dad to die the same way as the spider. Perhaps they should have found another way to kill the spider/dad so that the methods coincide!
MichK777 ya that would have made the spider killing scene have relevance, but since they decided not to kill the dad in that way the spider scene is just out of place and irrelevant. and the attempted killing of the father was also horribly misplayed, as pointed out by cinemasins.
“There’s no crying in superhero movies” - Spider-Man -Spider-Man 2 Spider-Man 3 - Batman begins - The dark knight - The dark knight rises - Superman - Spider-Man far from home/homecoming - The entire X-men franchise - Avengers Endgame, Infinity war, Age of Ultron - Captain America All of these movies showcase a hero crying
if you remeber they were practicing with the idea of making 'armor' with their powers. making a barrier around them. the only limit to telekenisis is your imagination and how far you can stretch the rubber band.
+Firestar4041 pretty sure healing his mom would require decades of research to u derstand the human body and then her specific illness and what he would need to do cure here and im not even sure if he even could with those powers
+Firestar4041 armor is pretty straight forward. Train yourself to make a reactionary force against something that's hitting you. Understanding how you can cure a disease without crushing someone's organ with telekinesis would take years of study and practice.
+Hudrow Portnof very true...but he also could have just robbed the store of the medication instead of killing people for pocket change...but I loved this movie...wouldnt change a thing about it
Strattex They don't make themselves stronger. They use their powers so that anything that smashes into them is really smashing into their telekinetic barrier. It takes concetration, so it's not automatic. That's why the statue thing works. He's focused on everything at the extreme of his range: cars, bullets, buildings. So the inside of his barrier contains him and the statue. Statue is free to spear him. Besides... While he can "move" the bricks of the building around him with the forcefield, he did not move the ground out of his way, so he went from Xmph to 0mph instantly. This is why we have seatbelts and airbags in cars during wrecks. The idea is to give more room to decelerate.
Lee Louviere He can however move himself, thereby decreasing the impact. But yes, the point stands that it would require concentration and we don't think he actually did.
This movie is basically what the prequels should have done with Anakin. When ya think about it, its a much better Darth Vader origin. You feel bad for him, you understand his motives and he's not cryin all the time. Loved this film.....that being said lets watch Cinemasins rip it a new one ^_^
The entire Prequel trilogy ultimately became unnecessary because they did such a terrible job with it. A few lines of dialogue from Alec Guinness in Episode 4 summed it all up perfectly - more heart and feeling in those few lines than in all 3 of those movies combined.
You know it's too bad that Disney decided to get rid of EU from the era of the movies but decided to keep the prequel trilogy, seriously a lot of fans would have loved for that to happen and Disney wouldn't really even have to recast many characters, they could ask pretty much all the actors from the prequel trilogy to come back and all they'd have to do is write a good story and make some improvements to a few characters, honestly any problems with the characters were in the writing and directing, not the actors just being bad.
Out of all the things to pick on about the movie, you missed the biggest sin. There is never an explanation given for how that giant glowing thing got into the underground caves, how long it's been there, what it does, or how it works. It's practically the biggest case of handwavium for one of the most important turning points in the film.
that's the point. How they got the powers is not important to the plot. Did you really want them to start going into some Native American curse mumbo jumbo or whatever? The point is they have the powers; I think the sense of mystery as to where they came from just adds to the movie. It's not making it this big thing, so you're confident not knowing the answer. I admire Chronicle for being one of the only movies to have the guts to intentionally leave out the origin story
actually the writer for this max landis was going to explain that in chronicle 2 but apparently they fired him for chronicle 2 and they are just going to like do another movie just like this.
They talked about focusing on their skin and creating a barrier around it. Pretty sure they demonstrated it by smashing forks into their hands. So they do have some kind of invulnerability. Just saaaying
Rapid acceleration/deceleration would still cause severe organ damage and death even without a true impact. When a boxer gets knocked out, it's not because a fist collided with his skull, but because his skull collided with his brain.
***** Their invulnerability, as it is explained in the movie, would still not protect their insides from the impacts they sustain from the rapid acceleration/deceleration. The flying is acceptable because it is explained in such a way that makes it plausible within the realm of the movie. Their invulnerability is explained in such a way that makes deflecting forks and bullets plausible, but is not explained in such a way that would account for them being completely unharmed when their brain is bounced violently around in their skull. To be honest, I thought the same thing as you when I heard that sin. But, Drew is right. When it comes to smashing through buildings and whatnot, their outsides could be completely unharmed, but their insides would be mush.
Why not bother with a bank? Well, hell, if I had telekinesis I'd certainly rather exact my revenge on street bullies and steal their wallets than risk my life stealing from a bank. It's just safer, plus they had it coming to them. **shrugs**
You could tear them apart limb from limb and listen to them suffer, just like you did when they bullied you, only difference is your revenge is better than anything they could've ever done.
Occifer Jehons I know. I remember i replied something like "It's hard to differentiate the people who are joking in the internet from those who are dead serious". But youtube is mess up now, apparently. Not the first time it happened.
Oh my God! A young man with an abusive parent being bullied in high school? He has super telekinetic powers? One day, he is pushed to far and cracks???? ...............IT'S THE MALE VERSION OF CARRIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I actually enjoyed this movie. I also enjoyed watching Cinema Sins rip on it. Their ripping on it, in no way lessened my enjoyment of the movie. THAT IS HOW YOU ENJOY THIS CHANNEL!
Correct. I loved Aquaman, Infinity War, and Bumblebee in theaters and DVD(to name a few) and I also liked the CinemaSins vids of them. I never thought "Wow, now these movies suck." or "Wow, way to take the fun out these great movies CinemaSins." This is a comedy channel, but some people take things too seriously.
Am I the only one who found Andrew to be the most sympathetic and relatable character in this movie. I'm lucky enough not to have such a shitty home life but his social problems (isolation and bullying) I've dealt with that kind of shit. If I had suddenly developed telekinesis as a teenager I can't imagine not exacting brutal vengeance on anyone who wronged me.
I agree. He never wanted things to end up the way they did. I think after the accident with the car everything just quickly spiraled out of control for him. It's like when you make a mistake but you don't know how to fix it and more keep getting piled on so you just get super depressed and stressed out. Couple that feeling with grief over his mom and Steve along with his abusive father and telekinesis... expect a big blow up. What Andrew really needed was his dad in jail and to see a therapist or something... poor guy. =( don't get me wrong I'm not excusing his actions but if he'd had the right help before hand the ending wouldn't have happened.
Thats wrong in many different ways you kill your enemies by showing them how successful and how better of a human being you can become taking a bunch of innocent peoples lives is cowardly
I always thought that the movie was a third person omnipotent view..like we could only see the movie through cameras and even if the characters weren't filming we would still see through the cameras in the movie
Patrick Restieri That was a pretty nice move from screenwriter's side to remove the limitations of found footage genre :) Creative. But I wouldn't focus on the realism of cameras here. Movie has other strong sides that outweigh this.
Max Landis, the writer, said he wanted one of the plot points of the sequel to be about discovering whoever put the movie Chronicle together and why. Who found the footage? He's not expecting the studio to have him write the sequel, but he has great ideas for the Chronicle universe
If your interested Max Landis actually wrote a full length feature film sequel and it was rejected by fox for being too dark. But he posted it online and you can read the whole thing if you just search "Chronicle 2 Max Landis Script". From what I hear they are actually working on a sequel
I thought Chronicle 2 would be Matt doing as he said, trying to find out exactly what gave them their powers. Even now, years later, it could still be a great script. He's like ten years or so older, married and maybe with or without children, and he's all but given up on figuring things out...and then something happens that gets him back into it, catches his attention.
The reason they didn't die from smashing through those buildings because they used the telekenesis to put a barrier over them selves like what happened andrew stabbed Matt with the fork
They totally didn't deserve the sin for not explaining their invulnerability. The whole fork scene at the diner established that they make Sue Storm barriers as a reflex.
I was under the impression that it was just automatically created when they got their powers. Sort of like Superman and his barrier field around his skin (Separate from his actual bullet proof skin. Which is why in fights his suit tends to not really be damaged.).
yeah but how can he activate his forcefield while being knocked by the hit from the street lamp the fall would have kill him, and it can't be automatic because in that case the spear would not have worked
So its probably just there. I imagine the barrier is sort of like a skin tight bubble. Large flat smashes wont pop it but a sharp spear could. Infact a large enough impact could also probably pop the barrier.
K Harvey I thought his suit doesn't get damaged because it's made of Kryptonian fabric, which is significantly more durable than most materials on Earth.
MestariDuff You're right. There's even a scene where they test it out in a diner. One of them stabs Andrew's hand with a fork and the fork bends, but Andrew's hand is okay.
MestariDuff Yeah they would have to or something as simple as flying would be risky. High altitude, thinning air, coldness, speed and yes (as we saw) lightning strikes. They would need to figure out a good way to protect themselves.
FloppyFlapjak If I get the context of your question I would say whatever protection they have just protects from environmental issues such as thin air and coldness and not other stuff such as lighting strikes and getting speared. Like the aura that protects the Flash from the effects of running as super speed but won't, itself, protect him from being attacked by someone.
Robert Whittaker I kind of enjoyed the fact that it didn't go over-board with it like Cloverfield did. If I had to say I like one of these"found footage" movies i'd most-likely choose this one over all others due to it's control of the gimmick.
Mike Hawk Its not a very realistic impression when it keeps hopping from person to person, to what looked like security camera footage in the hospital, etc etc etc
So... Nobody's going to point out that it wasn't Andrew who was hit by the bus? It was Matt. I remember that because it was a point that was in every trailer and in the movie he'd just mumbled how he was an apex predator and there was honking, Matt turned to look, BUS TO THE FACE!!! Also, Andrew was in hospital gowns, casts and all of that, not a hoodie. CinemaSins lied to create a bogus sin. *Ding*
wathe nube No the point of that sin was how he should have lost the phones when he was hit by the bus when he was never hit by the bus. Them surviving that was another sin. It is also a bogus sin since they explained in the movie and demonstrated, at its weakest when they could only do it while focusing on one spot and bent a fork, how they were focusing on covering themselves in a layer of telekinetic energy to stop anything. Given how their way of flying was to also cover themselves with it and move themselves, they had their shields up. That's how they survived it. Both sins are bogus. *Ding*
wathe nube Yet you tried to comment and correct me, and think that excuse somehow brings you out on top of this? lol. No you should've just stayed quiet if you never watched it so you don't look silly. *Ding*
Regarding sin 53, yes, my high school did actually allow a guy to do a tightrope act for our talent show, He also rode a unicycle and juggled. I dunno if he was raised in a circus or what, but he was a cool dude and hot as fuck too.
A circus was actually invited to my middle school, letting students sign up to do tightrope and high bar acts while they were there for a week or so. (contingent on parent approval) There's also a several channels featuring footage they took in school of everyone and everything. Maybe its changed in recent years, but not all schools were as strict as this guy seems to think.
@@Azukwuah He didn't say it was the best movie ever, he said it was underrated - which means it's not as popular/liked as it should be. I don't understand people like you who have to make a competition out of everything when someone is just basically saying "It's a good movie."
“When people 'found' the footage of three teenagers developing superpowers” When does the film ever establish that this is actual footage found and compiled? I don't think the film was going for that, I think it's just using the cameras as a way of storytelling
+Marvel fan are you saying the first or latter way? some found footage is meant as "found" and others is just "footage". i agree that it was just a way of story telling. i dont think they were trying to imply that anybody found the footage and compiled it all
Found footage implies found footage, it's that simple. If this footage wasn't found then there was no point filming it that way in the first place. With "The Blair Witch" it's all filmed on one camera so it makes sense that someone found it, but this was unnecessary. Cool but unnecessary.
Joe A. Verage If that was the case it wouldn't be called :found footage." That's just stupid to put a movie in that category and then say "It wasn't actually found though. It's 'found footage' but no one found it." Found footage=footage that was found. If it's not found footage then the people who make it should make that clear.
Joe A. Verage I think that what you're mainly not getting is that even if the director didn't say it was found, it was found because we are watching it. We don't know who found it, but because it was found we can watch it. If it was never found we could never watch it. The footage was found no matter how you try to twist it because we are watching the footage. So, no matter what, a found footage movie is a found footage movie.
4:00 "If only we had powers that could remove the truck from the water!" If you looked closely when watching the movie, Andrew begins to raise the car (it may be barely but you can clearly see that the car is moving up). Andrew starts saying that he can help but Matt tells him to stop so clearly they thought of the fact that they could move the car but didn't because they didn't want to risk causing more damage. So really, that shouldn't have been a sin.
Was a good movie up until the end. Kid can deflect mother fucking bullets, but a spear from a statue catches him off guard? And the end scene with that horrible background...
I normally like your videos, but it seems like you just found any part of this movie that stood out and just said something about it, then declared it a sin just cause. I understand it's been requested you do a EWW for this movie, but you shouldn't add random points just to add length to the video. Everything Wrong With "Everything Wrong With Chronicle" 0:22 You basically gave the movie a sin just so you could make a porn joke +1 0:27 So, having a slightly dark back story to a character is automatically a bad thing? +1 1:28 I've heard people say they're trying to be a Good Cousin many times +1 2:04 Crying automatically makes a movie bad +1 3:04 Explaining why the father is abusive is a bad thing? Should he just be nothing more than an asshole without any reason? +1 3:42 Having a character say a joke someone of his age would realistically say is a sin +1 3:58 Andrew suggests using their powers, but they tell him it's already fucked up enough and are afraid he might just make shit worse. +1 4:05 I'm pretty sure they tell Andrew to stop recording multiple times but he just kinda ignores them. +1 4:12 Who's going to see them THAT high up? They're at the same altitude that planes fly, and from the ground, those big ass planes look smaller than ants. +1 4:52 Having beer bottles around a home with a drinker is somehow unrealistic +1 7:17 If you watched the movie, they explain how they can use Telekinesis to basically shield themselves to a certain amount, that's how. 7:27 How is him using the power he's had the entire movie to impale Andrew Deus-Ex-Machina? That's like saying wolverine's healing factor is Deus-Ex-Machina. +1 7:28 When did going to mountains become Andrew's hobby? He said he wanted to go there one day, that's not a hobby. Sure, in one part of the movie Andrew and Steve fly places with their powers, but that's not a hobby, that's using your new superpowers to do whatever the fuck you want +1 7:42 He has telekinesis, wouldn't be to hard to find Andrew's camera and just take it. +1 Bonus: Nearly half the sins are just repeats of sins you already mentioned, I.E. They basically mentioned the one girl being a blogger with a camera as a sin about 6 times, Andrew's dad being a drinker is about 4 of the sins, Steve being friends with them is like 3 sins. +7 EWW Sin Count: 21 Sentence: No Like
Alpha Heisenbadger It's far from my favorite, and just because they do it in other videos doesn't mean it makes any sense. It's not humorous in any of their videos when they do it, whether they're reviewing a good movie or a bad movie. I.E. I've never seen "The Wolverine" but in their review there's a part when they say "Wolverine straight up tries to murder a dude *ding*" I don't see how that could possibly be seen as a joke, and if it's not a joke, it doesn't make sense because they're basically saying its a bad thing that Wolverine is acting according to his personality?
My biggest problem with Chronicle was how they shoehorned in the ridiculous found footage. There was no need for it to be found footage and the only thing it added was force them to write awful lines of dialogue to tell the audience why they're recording each other.
Actually, found footage film are usually much cheaper to make. I believe in the case of Chronicle, this allows them to create many special effects by both saving on budget and being able to conceal some of the roughness of the cgi.
Clash957 It destroys the whole movie. Fuck special effects when I can't see the thing because I'm getting so annoyed because I'm tired of not seeing everybody in the conversation and the fact that the twat who's holding the camera never does a good work of doing so. So fuck movies like this one.
Charles Xll There were no problems like that in the movie...you could see everything that you needed to see. As for "not seeing everybody in the conversation", that's not always needed, you can tell who's talking by the voices and who you saw in the establishing shots.
I felt that the plotline for this movie was very rushed and didn't really explain a lot, in two minutes they went from discovering some rock to perfecting their powers
I kinda like that they went with the Dawn of the Dead approach of saying that the 'why' doesn't really matter. I'm kinda bored with the whole "discovering their powers for the first time" bit.
Well the writer of this film explained that he wanted to explain the rock through the sequels, by following different characters and finding out little bits and pieces about it.
My one objection is that I don't think Chronicle is a "found footage" movie. Yes, the POV is always through a diegetic camera, but there's no conceit that the movie itself is something someone in the world of the movie actually assembled for us to watch. I think it was just supposed to be an excuse for unusual and possibly more "intimate" POVs.
Are they? I would have no idea, but if that's true, I imagine that's an important factor as well. You can justify it as a "stylistic choice" and cut the budget at the same time.
"there's no conceit that the movie itself is something someone in the world of the movie actually assembled for us to watch" That's actually why things like the implausibility of anyone having access to certain footage in this movie, like the cellphone or security camera shots, didn't bother me at all.
I'm so glad that at least this guy gets it. I get the cinemasins are supposed to be funny and all but the movie never claimed to be found footage at any point. Certainly more of a stylized way of shooting which did later allow them to change viewpoints later on in the movie to various security cameras, etc. Even when they did shots at the end from no camera within the scene, I wasn't bothered because it also served its purpose for that time. One of my most enjoyed parts of this movie was the approach they took in shooting it.
The writer or director stated in an interview that the was in fact not found footage but pov. At least some people understand that because a movie is viewed by the audience through the lense of a character's camera , it does not make it found footage.
If you'd remember a important scene, they said that as long as they were ready for the hit to your body, that they were pretty much invulnerable to it.
Remember the part with the fork stabbing force field trick? that's how they survived the impacts. They divert some of their consciousness into maintaining a telekinetic shield around them to protect them from harm. During the movie it seems the shield really only protects them from impact and, if the force is great enough, the shield only reduces the damage. That's why andrew could survive the gas explosion, but still got knocked out. It's also why...Matt could impale Andrew ant the end, Andrew was too focused on fighting the cops to keep his shield up all the time.
Omegeddon I see ti as tightening your abs to protect against getting punched in the stomach. If you never practice, you have to focus on the timing and flexing, but if you practiced enough your subconscious would start to do it for you. However, if you were doing something else that required all your focus, somebody could run and punch you in the stomach and you wouldn't flex your abs. I have no idea if that's what the writers thought about when they wrote the scene and the movie, but it fits pretty well with what happened.
did you notice when andrew stabed matt's hand with a fort and it matt blocked it with his power.that was when they couldnt even lift a car.so they probaly protect themselves way better at the end.
Plato and his allegory of the cave, yes, That was a "day one handout" thing in philosophy. But, Schope? cmon He's, at the very earliest, someone who gets introduced after the mid-term, if at all, in an intro to philosophy course.
1blackone You have a point there, in my case he was someone I began to learn about in the latter half of my first year as opposed to the former, but Schopenhauer still is very well in terms of being in the public consciousness, and can't really be described as being an "obscure" philosopher
Sin 79 needs to be removed, that's your fault for not paying attention to the movie Jeremy... At the diner scene, it shows that they're able to put telekinetic forcefields around themselves making them completely invincible when they want!
I hope he realizes that this movie was inspired by Akira, anyone who ever saw Akira would have realized the elements not too far into the film....just putting that out there.
I think the whole found footage idea doesn't apply to this movie. It's not like it's all found footage but rather is being viewed live just through different vessels. Like, you, the viewer, are trying to watch this, but to make it realistic you're experiencing it through a camera, then security footage, and then a phone. It's like everything is happening live and you just need a way to see it without the traditional viewing style of a movie.
Thank you, that's exactly what my interpretation of this movie was! And yet there are a couple of people who think someone went through all the trouble of finding this footage....
L THE FUCK O L. "If your logo is unrecognizable and also contains no words or clues to the name of your company... do us all a favor and just save us the five seconds, okay?" that was so harsh and funny. that has to be the best cinema sins opening ever!
+Robert William They do have fun watching movies. It just adds to it to point out all the sins they find. they probably watch the movie for fun then the second or third time watch it for the sins because you really dont notice them unless you watch them multiple times and see things you didnt notice before.
Just an FYI, for #70, the directors intended to have Andrew rip his dad apart like he did with the spider, but it was changed in order to achieve the pg-13 rating. Although I don't know why they'd want it pg-13, it should've been rated r. This is literally my favorite movie.
Well there was only one director and it was probably the writers who originally intended it that way, and even if they had a "reason" for doing it the way they did, it's still kind of silly.
The fact that they referenced Pluto's allegory of the Cave was impressive for a found-footage film,that that story is only mentioned because it's about a cave *DING*
***** Oh my God, some people are just so uneducated.... Pluto's allegory used to be an actual allegory, but philosophers of this society have decided it's not actually an allegory and more of a dwarf story. Seriously, all it takes is a quick Google search to educate yourself
***** Come on, he was obviously making a joke, referencing the fact that Pluto, the ex-planet, is now classified as a dwarf planet. No need to imply he's an asswipe.
Another sin: NONE of these guys actually tried complicated things with their telekinesis. If you read on the superpower wiki, you will understand what i mean. Telekinesis is way more powerful than just moving things. If you know what to do.
***** But it does. When they have to invent sins (like here) the count is not big. But with movies like "Transformers" or "Kingdom of Crystal Skull" they can get 100 actual sins easily. Of course, the video about some movie doesn't mean movie itself is bad. But you can't say that count doesn't mean anything either.
SolarWindsRider I'd say that if the person who decides on the counter says that it doesn't mean anything then yes, you can say that it doesn't mean anything.
Phrenetic Reaper Jeremy guy himself ? He does not simply ding the sins, for some reason the counter is there. So it does mean something. Again, this is not an objective evaluation of the quality of the movie. But in general - bigger the count, more holes (real or stretched out) the movie has.
SolarWindsRider Even though quite a lot of sins in all his videos are pretty much him making a joke. Also, the sins have no real value. Also, if you think a movie is genuinely good then it's genuinely good. Why does a video that was made for comedy suddenly change your mind rather than the serious reviewers who said they didn't like the movie?
but of course, if this was played into the realistic concept on handheld cameras, there should've been more than one perspective(different people recording footage of the events)
They were able to live when smashing through building because as shown during the fork scene if they know its coming they can put up a sort of "forcefield" around them to block it.
Playologygames when they hit the ground they stop lol even if they didn't feel the ground because of the force field. they still are decelerating too fast for their organs, thats why i hate when superman catches someone while they are falling and hes flying at them, he would catch them but they would still turn into soup
This one was bad. Not the movie but this video... Seems like half the sins are bitching about the "found footage" and as to who has it or not at any particular scene. Which means the movie is actually good. But I like watching this channel specifically because you point out funny and ridiculous things... Despite people's requests don't do it on good movies if you have to be reaching for straws.
KeijiMaeda86 I think people are getting tired of telling people that this is all satirical. Also this movie was terrible. If your gonna do a found footage film you need a good reason to have some found footage. That's a legitimate problem with these types of movies.
KeijiMaeda86 Well, IF you're going to do your movie as found footage you really should think it through and know who is filming everything and why. You also can't do dramatic zooms and other professional camera shots when there's no one to do them. I also don't see a real reason why this movie had to be found footage at all.
Dead End Maybe not in that someone found the footage and watched it but yeah characters were carrying around cameras and filming everything for poorly defined, vague, reasons and it got in the way of the story. I could kind of see if they started filming themselves when their powers started and maybe filmed themselves testing their powers and whatnot but a lot of what they were shown filming made no sense and the video is right that filming little girls in a public place is going to get in trouble. Also, yeah a pharmacy is not going to have any of that due to privacy issues. All and all the movie would've been better either switching back and forth (filming most of it normal with interludes of them documenting their powers and testing them) or just being a normal movie.
well electricity is an organized flow of electrons. and one of the most important rules of it is that the amount that comes in, comes out(errr that's what she said?). therefore, they need some source to get the electrons from, and a place were they will go. so you need a battery. and a "reason" for the electricity to flow. i'm not an expert, but yeah, science
anipaper2 Forget science, this is comicbook physics! Electrons are all around us, so all you need is telekinesis to move them. I understand that not all electrons move freely, but ... telekinesis!
Or the fact that Andrew telekinetically manipulates his camera. If a guy carrying a camera everywhere wasn't conspicuous and alarming enough, a guy with a camera always magically hovering around him definitely would be.
MrEffectfilms One of the greatest anime movies ever. Based on the Manga by Katsuhiro Otomo, basically it follows a boy who gains superpowers. It is the movie that inspired The Matrix and spurred the popularity of anime outside of Japan. Sorry for the nerd out, but if you like anime or action movies then check it out.
*_Everything wrong with Forrest Gump_* It would be awesome since its my favorite movie. Screen Junkies tried hard but they failed. I want to see that does this movie have SINS. I mean the real SINS not that baby SINS.
***** she had a messy life, her father used to bang her elder sisters think how gross it was. ugh! anyone can loses their minds. and Forrest was a nice douche, He never gave up. he just walk with the flow. or we can say run :p
Fakus Namus no thats not there are many fav movies of mine i.e harry potter and i've saw their honest trailers and they cracked me up as well as i am greed what they show
Keep in mind, this channel is literally designed to nitpick everything. That is the idea behind it. Even if a movie is good, which I believe Chronicle is, they still love to throw whatever they see in there.
Gage Eakins Yes, it's true. But his point is valid, Chronicles is not a "stitched together the footage to make a film.". A lot of his nitpick are literally "How the Fuck does they put these footages to make a film"
Nicholas Reffin Considering what the found footage movie is about, we can just assume the government is watching it, like in Cloverfield, or it's being watched by someone who stole the tapes and is watching them, like in Paranormal Activity 3. It's rather interesting to think that just, watching the movie alone, adds a bit more plot/mystery to the story the film is about.
" It's just a film told from the perspective of actual cameras." Which needs to just die as a technique. It's a regular movie, but instead of showing you good viewer camera angles, they show you angles that are only supposedly from in-universe cameras. That adds nothing to a film, it just means they have to waste time inventing bullshit reasons to have an in-universe camera in every scene.
never seen it because i usually go to the movies with my grandpa and he decided to see it the day i wasnt here and he hated it so he wont let me see it even though i love movies like that sooo... yeah.
What the hell was the point in all that 'found footage' bullturd? Three reasons why just using a normal camera was better idea: 1: Nobody brings a camera everywhere they go. 2: It removes the bullcrap that two people are constantly glued to their video cameras. 3: Would have made for a much better film overall with background scores, no shaky camera movement and better final fight scene.
4:11 you realize, don't you, that if you are up high enough that planes cruise, you wouldn't be able to breathe as the air is too thin and it would be around -50F
I would point out a different sin in that scene. When they were flying in the sky effects of the wind should be WAY more visible on their clothes, their faces etc. Just check out videos of parachute jumpers.
I didn't mention that because the Tebow guy was sort of hovering in the air in that scene, not actually moving and, while I know that in cities you can be on the ground and not feel any wind at all but on the roof of a 100 story building and have A LOT of wind, I don't know how much wind is present at 35,000 feet
dragonweyr44 It is intense. Doesn't matter if you are at rest or moving. Let's put it this way - they could've picked a bigger fan for filming that scene :)
SolarWindsRider parachute jumpers are falling at terminal velocity(which is pretty fast) so thats why. but yea i still agree. The ball would definitely not go where they were trying to throw it. and they would probably drift miles away from where they thought they were.
The original script for the movie actually had Richard(the father) being dismembered by Andrew just like what he did to the spider. As you can see that was to graphic so they scrapped it and just dropped him.
I loved this movie. Good thing they're making a sequel. This was the most realistic super human powers film, really gives you a view of what happens if you achieve super powers, responsibility and what humans would do if they're mentally unstable. Also all those sins were practically illlogical or irrelevant, but w/e this is CinemaSins, the world of trying to juice out every last bit of sin from a movie.
cooldude6848 They're making a sequel but the writer for this film left the project because supposedly 20th Century Fox wanted to essentially rehash this film's story with a new group of characters rather than moving forward with the story.
This was funny and all, but it seems like you guys were really reaching with a lot of the "sins." Having a dark explanation is a sin? Crying is a sin? The charm of "Cinema Sins" is the fact that you guys point out ACTUAL flaws in popular movies. I know this was requested, and the video can't be 2 minutes long, but it just bugs me, I guess.
Yeah, but they usually nitpick real problems, even if they're small. Saying, "There's no crying in superhero movies" feels different to me, that's all.
dlweiss I felt like they highlighted one of the real, significant problems of this movie: the found footage element. It is, once again, not used very well, even for a movie that is half-decent. Whenever I see people complain about CinemaSins failing to compile a list of viable "sins", I simply can't help but state this: THE POINT IS FOR ENTERTAINMENT, NOT FOR ACTUAL ANALYSIS. These people wouldn't have nearly the following that they do without a little lighthearted sarcasm, sardonic humor, and biting (yet not necessarily correct) criticism. If they just straight up tore a movie to pieces, no matter how hard they tried, they would simply not have the viewer population that they currently do. Want an example of someone who puts in twice the effort and has twice the talent but has half the subscribers (if not less)? YourMovieSucksProductions. If he had the upload frequency of CS, he might have long since surpassed them, but unlike them he actually gives a shit about actually tearing a movie apart from the seams and seeing what's left (since he clearly has studied the art of film-making and proper methods of exploring it in criticism).
A ton of the sins for all their videos (except for movies like transformers, that are that awful) tend to have either extreme nitpicks or just stupid stuff to be funny, like how crying in a superhero movie is a sin. It's not actually something wrong in the movie in anyway, it's just to be funny.
Not arguing or anything, just pointing out why he said the crying bit; the way he said it was a reference to the movie 'A League of Their Own' when Tom Hanks yells, "There's no crying in baseball!"
***** Well any objects not controlled by telekinesis would be subject to those as well. So that's a decent start, but I'd add that they could create telekinetic barriers around other objects. Also other factors like possibly shoving an opening through body barrier. Then there's the way bullets and bullet vests work that allows for force to be absorbed but that can't block that force at a specific point. Unless we're inside a character's head hearing their thoughts, we really wouldn't know for sure though. Really it's strange that lightning was part of their powers as well as it'd take a lot to grab something the human eye can't see and can't be felt otherwise. There's also a logical chance that the lightning was mere chance unless the character felt their powers do something.
Redflametrow : "Really it's strange that lightning was part of their powers as well as it'd take a lot to grab something the human eye can't see and can't be felt otherwise." We don't know if telekinesis was their only ability, especially since they could hear one another and sense one another's location during certain scenes.
I don't get why so many people seem to bash this movie for being a "found footage" movie (even though it's not exactly a found footage movie, but more on that later). Within the first few minutes, it is explained why the main character bought a camera: he tells his abusive alcoholic father that he will film everything he does so that his father can not hurt him anymore. If his father even tries anything, the video evidence would go straight to the police. He is also an angsty teenager who eventually started filming everything as an obsessive hobby. I'm sure we all know someone who was obsessed about something and absolutely *had* to have it in every aspect of their life. I really liked how the camera wouldn't just stick with the main character; instead, it would jump from his camera to someone's phone, security cameras in stores, news helicopters, etc. The only time any footage was ever "found" in the entire movie was actually at the end when another character leaves the camera (which probably belonged to the main character) in the mountains and someone would probably find it. Actually, a lot of things are explained in the movie. It's just that people either don't pay attention or they usually come in to the movie biased against it.
+The Smoking Skull Unless you think of it in a different way, as a new subgenre of the found footage genre. Instead of viewing it as "Oh someone found this footage and stitched it all together", think of it more as you are watching it as it is happening, as with most movies. It is using "found footage" style, but the way it is shot, as when the people are filming him with their phones before he smashes them, seems more of a as it happens type thing. You, the viewer, are all cameras viewing what is happening before that cameras death. Reposting myself on the same thread but I thought I had a good idea.
+The Smoking Skull But why would you tell your abusive alcoholic father that you're filming everything? What's stopping him from destroying you and the camera... you still need to get it to the police which is something he can interfere with at any point now that he is aware that he is being recorded.
10RexTheWolf01 He still goes to school, he could have had any of his friends bring the evidence to the police. Plus, his father backed down after hearing mention of the police. But your point still stands, sort of, as the father does try to beat him up later in the movie despite the camera being set up.
+Bridgette Gleaves Plus, if you think about a documentary, they gather ALL the footage they could possibly find and assemble it all as best as they could. I'm PRETTY sure (albeit not completely) that a few of the scenes aren't in actual chronological order.
i dont think the camera footage is suposed to be like "this was edited together and released to the public" i think its just that we are seeing the cameras pov
I swear he finds EVERY LITTLE THING that can be told as a "sin" this was a good movie, does he like sitting in his room watching movies all day and saying what's wrong with them?
Jesse Barrera you do realize that's his job right? He's said multiple times he loves movies but when he "puts on his sins hat" he nitpicks things that wouldn't even really be nitpicks anyways.
One of the biggest problems with the sin about the bus and crashing through shit is that it is possible for them to survive that. That is why there is the restaurant scene where Andrew shows how he can create a barrier around his friends hand, and then attempt to jam a fork into his hand, but it only bends the fork. Basically they survived by doing that same thing around their bodies which protected them. Also, as mentioned in the comments, Andrew didn't get hit by the bus therefore the cameras he took were still there. As for finding the first camera that got buried, it's a found footage film. Maybe someone, possibly Andrew's cousin, dug up the camera later on.
Hi, it's Max. I wrote this movie. This is the modern day equivalent of a Friar's Club Roast. Feel totally honored. Can't stop laughing. Also, fuck you. And thank you.
This guy is legit, btw. inb4 people asking him millions of questions.
Seriously? That's AWESOME!!!!
I watched it today and I did really enjoy it! A good twist :)
Sooo, where did you get the face period idea?? :D
If you really did write this movie....kudos - actually really enjoyed it (and I usually hate superhero/superhero-esque movies)
Surprised he didn't mention the "Black guy always dies first" cliche.
wait he died how?
Lightning.
+Chase Rivera You know what happens when you hit a telekinetic dude with a lightning...
the same thing that happens to everything else.
Pointing it out is also cliche
Pretending it shouldn't be pointed out just cause you're tired of hearing about it..ignoring that you only hear about it cause it was such a heavy thing that continued to happen till recently....and for other cases, still even now.....is also cliche
imagine watchin a movie with this dude
Lol
That will be haliouriouae
60% percent into the movie it would stop, then there would be a shot of me watching the movie and drinking a beer, then it slowly zooms out to see his corpse, throat slashed with a bloodied neck of a beer bottle sitting next to me.
Osama Been Drillin you couldn’t
They have a whole team writing this shit up I doubt he just calls shit out like that during a movie
Andrews character felt so real. This wasn't really a super hero movie it was a "the quiet kid gets actual telekinesis" movie and it was really well done.
I think anyone could predict how the movie might end asoon as the powers are discovered, but that only added to the tragedy for me.
That "Dramatic dolly shot" sin is actually one of the best parts of the whole film.
It shows how obsessed and dedicated he is to making a movie, that he pretends to be asleep, but you can actually see him moving the camera dramatically in the security footage! If you watch that scene you can see the tripod and camera slowly start to slide forward.
He just became obsessed with documenting his greatness and giving a narrative and trying to tell a story. It's when you become certain that yeah, some of the filming before was a bit ridiculous and it was on purpose. Like the final fight, he grabs every camera he can! He wants to filmed, he needs it. It validates him.
I need to rewatch this one...
Agreed. I remember seeing this movie when it was new on a whim, (I don't watch movies that often, least of all in the theater), and really enjoying it, but more or less forgot about it until I started watching Cinema Sins videos and hearing him reference it from time to time. It's one of those movies that actually has some depth and focuses more on telling the story than just hitting a "movie moments" checklist, yet it's rare to see anyone talk about it or even remember it......
This movie sucked.
Saint Rodgers Domino this is the greatest movie ever Made fym
@@saintrodgersdomino7384 Reason?
@@saintrodgersdomino7384 You're entitled to your minority opinion.
7:16- The characters do have a form of invulnerability, provided they anticipate an attack and focus their power to protect themselves with an invisible barrier. This is shown early in the film when the three are learning about their powers and Andrew stabs a fork into Matt's hand, yet it bends without breaking the skin. Andrew clearly says, "When things are gonna hit you, as long as you're ready, they will not hurt you because of the barrier". This is how Matt and Andrew survived the thrown bus and crashing through buildings among other things in their city fight, because they had time to react. However, when they are struck without time to react, such as by the lightning that killed Steve, the barrier doesn't activate. That's why Andrew was damaged by that street lamp he didn't see and how Matt was able to stab him with that statue from behind. He was distracted by his rage, not paying attention.
The creator of the movie said Andrew could not possibly control the lighting, it was meant to stir conversation, so when Andrew said he didn’t do anything he really didn’t do anything it was a legit freak accident, the one guy literally goes up there to tell him it isn’t safe
@@tomtucker9426 , it was connected to andrew's emotions. When his voice becomes more angry, he accidentally summoned a lighting bolt that struck steve.
@@kevinskywalker5539 the creator of the movie literally said no to this lol
Is it canon Steve didn’t know he could protect himself? When Andrew was explaining it Steve was zoned out recording the lady outside. Because of that he died from the lightning, if that’s canon that’s some hella details.
@@alexvaughan1056 As far as I know, yes, it appears to be consistent with what's shown in the film. It's possible that a powerful enough attack might break through the barrier, but it was never established or implied that this was the case when Steve was stabbed. There was no precedent set & confirmed for the barrier being broken earlier in the story either. Everything I've seen leads me to be pretty certain that the barrier is based on reactivity and does not activate automatically or independently of the character's will..
6:28
Funny thing, Andrew's Dad was ORIGINALLY going to be killed by Andrew ripping off all of his other limbs, much like how he did to that one spider. The filmmakers however didn't put it in believing that the scene would've been too gruesome.
Interesting! But still: while that may have been a prudent decision, it was a poor one. It would have been a pretty neat thematic repetition for the dad to die the same way as the spider. Perhaps they should have found another way to kill the spider/dad so that the methods coincide!
MichK777 ya that would have made the spider killing scene have relevance, but since they decided not to kill the dad in that way the spider scene is just out of place and irrelevant. and the attempted killing of the father was also horribly misplayed, as pointed out by cinemasins.
OH man that would have made for some great fore shadowing
DAMN!
I didn't see the movie but I though that would be the end when I saw the spider scene. Lol, it would have been obvious. =P
MichK777 He could have smashed it with a shoe or something...
“There’s no crying in superhero movies”
- Spider-Man
-Spider-Man 2
Spider-Man 3
- Batman begins
- The dark knight
- The dark knight rises
- Superman
- Spider-Man far from home/homecoming
- The entire X-men franchise
- Avengers Endgame, Infinity war, Age of Ultron
- Captain America
All of these movies showcase a hero crying
Now no way home
Kinda late, but he is making a reference to "There is no crying in baseball!"
if you remeber they were practicing with the idea of making 'armor' with their powers. making a barrier around them. the only limit to telekenisis is your imagination and how far you can stretch the rubber band.
So by that he could have used his powers to heal his mom . . .
but instead rob the bullies and a gas station . . . that kid was not smart.
+Firestar4041 just making armor, not healing
+Firestar4041 pretty sure healing his mom would require decades of research to u derstand the human body and then her specific illness and what he would need to do cure here and im not even sure if he even could with those powers
+Firestar4041 armor is pretty straight forward. Train yourself to make a reactionary force against something that's hitting you.
Understanding how you can cure a disease without crushing someone's organ with telekinesis would take years of study and practice.
+Hudrow Portnof very true...but he also could have just robbed the store of the medication instead of killing people for pocket change...but I loved this movie...wouldnt change a thing about it
For sin number 79, it is explained earlier in the film that they can strengthen themselves.
Strattex They don't make themselves stronger.
They use their powers so that anything that smashes into them is really smashing into their telekinetic barrier.
It takes concetration, so it's not automatic.
That's why the statue thing works.
He's focused on everything at the extreme of his range: cars, bullets, buildings. So the inside of his barrier contains him and the statue. Statue is free to spear him.
Besides...
While he can "move" the bricks of the building around him with the forcefield, he did not move the ground out of his way, so he went from Xmph to 0mph instantly.
This is why we have seatbelts and airbags in cars during wrecks. The idea is to give more room to decelerate.
Lee Louviere He can however move himself, thereby decreasing the impact. But yes, the point stands that it would require concentration and we don't think he actually did.
Where did you find that profile picture???? Sarah urie? Beanboy 2k15?
Maddie Sands Search medicbear on google .-.
+Lee Louviere in short, they turn invincible when they see danger coming.
This movie is basically what the prequels should have done with Anakin. When ya think about it, its a much better Darth Vader origin. You feel bad for him, you understand his motives and he's not cryin all the time. Loved this film.....that being said lets watch Cinemasins rip it a new one ^_^
The entire Prequel trilogy ultimately became unnecessary because they did such a terrible job with it. A few lines of dialogue from Alec Guinness in Episode 4 summed it all up perfectly - more heart and feeling in those few lines than in all 3 of those movies combined.
comon the prequels is what i love about starwars, the reason it had new fans
Paul Dennett
Nice ZP picture.
Lol I guess if they had waited before making the prequels, Dane DeHaan would've been a great Anakin.
You know it's too bad that Disney decided to get rid of EU from the era of the movies but decided to keep the prequel trilogy, seriously a lot of fans would have loved for that to happen and Disney wouldn't really even have to recast many characters, they could ask pretty much all the actors from the prequel trilogy to come back and all they'd have to do is write a good story and make some improvements to a few characters, honestly any problems with the characters were in the writing and directing, not the actors just being bad.
It's funny because he didn't even need to rob a bank, he could have easily just ripped an atm off the wall. But teenagers are dumb I guess.
Lol, or just an armored truck..i thought the same thing as well though
Or he could of levitated the medicine from behind the doctor would of solved everything
PrinceRPG or just demand the doctor to help his mum or he will kill him with his superpowers
Grammar has nothing to do with this situation, stop being a grammar nazi if you cant add to the discussion then leave.
*****
Out of all the things to pick on about the movie, you missed the biggest sin. There is never an explanation given for how that giant glowing thing got into the underground caves, how long it's been there, what it does, or how it works. It's practically the biggest case of handwavium for one of the most important turning points in the film.
Thats why a sequel is apparently being made.
I was assuming it was a meteorite that crashed.
that's the point. How they got the powers is not important to the plot. Did you really want them to start going into some Native American curse mumbo jumbo or whatever? The point is they have the powers; I think the sense of mystery as to where they came from just adds to the movie. It's not making it this big thing, so you're confident not knowing the answer. I admire Chronicle for being one of the only movies to have the guts to intentionally leave out the origin story
actually the writer for this max landis was going to explain that in chronicle 2 but apparently they fired him for chronicle 2 and they are just going to like do another movie just like this.
They also never tell us what happen to the thing, that gave them their powers.
They talked about focusing on their skin and creating a barrier around it. Pretty sure they demonstrated it by smashing forks into their hands. So they do have some kind of invulnerability. Just saaaying
I was thinking the same thing, lol. Heck, the only reason he survived the explosion in the first place was because of that barrier ability.
Rapid acceleration/deceleration would still cause severe organ damage and death even without a true impact. When a boxer gets knocked out, it's not because a fist collided with his skull, but because his skull collided with his brain.
Drew Sauveterre Ummm well in real life people can't fly sooo... point?
***** Their invulnerability, as it is explained in the movie, would still not protect their insides from the impacts they sustain from the rapid acceleration/deceleration. The flying is acceptable because it is explained in such a way that makes it plausible within the realm of the movie. Their invulnerability is explained in such a way that makes deflecting forks and bullets plausible, but is not explained in such a way that would account for them being completely unharmed when their brain is bounced violently around in their skull.
To be honest, I thought the same thing as you when I heard that sin. But, Drew is right. When it comes to smashing through buildings and whatnot, their outsides could be completely unharmed, but their insides would be mush.
Right, so their superpower was magic instead of telekinesis. Gotcha.
Why not bother with a bank? Well, hell, if I had telekinesis I'd certainly rather exact my revenge on street bullies and steal their wallets than risk my life stealing from a bank. It's just safer, plus they had it coming to them. **shrugs**
I know its like 6 years ago but damn HEY CHARRIII LOL
@Kryptoskillet if i had telekinesis, i’d combine every living thing’s poop and make a planet out of it 😎 😎
@Kryptoskillet :( it’s a brilliant idea doe
@@dicktective2561 There isn't enough poop! A comet maybe a true dirty snowball!
You could tear them apart limb from limb and listen to them suffer, just like you did when they bullied you, only difference is your revenge is better than anything they could've ever done.
"Is this movie about to become Akira?"
That's a sin?
Still an awesome movie. Sins be damned!
nah, it's funny this way. Beside you're missing the point of this channel.
And CinemaSins agree that it's a great movie.
tomstonemale I'm not missing the point, my post was made in jest.
He was obviously joking.
Occifer Jehons I know. I remember i replied something like "It's hard to differentiate the people who are joking in the internet from those who are dead serious". But youtube is mess up now, apparently. Not the first time it happened.
Oh my God! A young man with an abusive parent being bullied in high school? He has super telekinetic powers? One day, he is pushed to far and cracks????
...............IT'S THE MALE VERSION OF CARRIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Carrie was one of the inspirations behind this movie.
Chronicle came out way before Carrie dawg
killermon6 Carrie came out in 1976. Did Chronicle have an original too???
Akira also.
OH, and also "I'm having like a...face *period*".
Coincidence? I think NOT! XD
I actually enjoyed this movie.
I also enjoyed watching Cinema Sins rip on it.
Their ripping on it, in no way lessened my enjoyment of the movie.
THAT IS HOW YOU ENJOY THIS CHANNEL!
TRUTH!
Correct. I loved Aquaman, Infinity War, and Bumblebee in theaters and DVD(to name a few) and I also liked the CinemaSins vids of them. I never thought "Wow, now these movies suck." or "Wow, way to take the fun out these great movies CinemaSins." This is a comedy channel, but some people take things too seriously.
This comment was what I sought, exactly right sentiment
Am I the only one who found Andrew to be the most sympathetic and relatable character in this movie. I'm lucky enough not to have such a shitty home life but his social problems (isolation and bullying) I've dealt with that kind of shit. If I had suddenly developed telekinesis as a teenager I can't imagine not exacting brutal vengeance on anyone who wronged me.
I agree. He never wanted things to end up the way they did. I think after the accident with the car everything just quickly spiraled out of control for him. It's like when you make a mistake but you don't know how to fix it and more keep getting piled on so you just get super depressed and stressed out. Couple that feeling with grief over his mom and Steve along with his abusive father and telekinesis... expect a big blow up. What Andrew really needed was his dad in jail and to see a therapist or something... poor guy. =( don't get me wrong I'm not excusing his actions but if he'd had the right help before hand the ending wouldn't have happened.
So you would kill innocents just cause people wronged you?
PrinceRPG I might.
Thats wrong in many different ways you kill your enemies by showing them how successful and how better of a human being you can become taking a bunch of innocent peoples lives is cowardly
PrinceRPG Clouded judgement is a dangerous thing.
I always thought that the movie was a third person omnipotent view..like we could only see the movie through cameras and even if the characters weren't filming we would still see through the cameras in the movie
yes and no. while some of it was contrived. alot of it was just andrews obsession with cameras.
well didnt andrew learn, how to hover the cameras with his mind? and that was the reason, why we saw the guys, how we saw them
Patrick Restieri
That was a pretty nice move from screenwriter's side to remove the limitations of found footage genre :) Creative. But I wouldn't focus on the realism of cameras here. Movie has other strong sides that outweigh this.
I think something that did that sort of thing well was End of Watch
So I wasn't the only one who thought this! It makes me so happy!
Max Landis, the writer, said he wanted one of the plot points of the sequel to be about discovering whoever put the movie Chronicle together and why. Who found the footage? He's not expecting the studio to have him write the sequel, but he has great ideas for the Chronicle universe
If your interested Max Landis actually wrote a full length feature film sequel and it was rejected by fox for being too dark. But he posted it online and you can read the whole thing if you just search "Chronicle 2 Max Landis Script". From what I hear they are actually working on a sequel
Ian Harding Thanks! I'll actually give it a look when I have a chance.
Love chronicle and I'm a fan of Max but I really wanted chronicle 2 to go ina different direction than his script
I thought Chronicle 2 would be Matt doing as he said, trying to find out exactly what gave them their powers. Even now, years later, it could still be a great script. He's like ten years or so older, married and maybe with or without children, and he's all but given up on figuring things out...and then something happens that gets him back into it, catches his attention.
Sadly there won’t be a sequel
I really like the idea that he talks about how the three of them should use their powers together.
The reason they didn't die from smashing through those buildings because they used the telekenesis to put a barrier over them selves like what happened andrew stabbed Matt with the fork
They totally didn't deserve the sin for not explaining their invulnerability. The whole fork scene at the diner established that they make Sue Storm barriers as a reflex.
I was under the impression that it was just automatically created when they got their powers. Sort of like Superman and his barrier field around his skin (Separate from his actual bullet proof skin. Which is why in fights his suit tends to not really be damaged.).
well they did try to learn how to block impact when playing around with that baseballs, so i guess they master it eventually.
yeah but how can he activate his forcefield while being knocked by the hit from the street lamp the fall would have kill him, and it can't be automatic because in that case the spear would not have worked
So its probably just there. I imagine the barrier is sort of like a skin tight bubble. Large flat smashes wont pop it but a sharp spear could. Infact a large enough impact could also probably pop the barrier.
K Harvey
I thought his suit doesn't get damaged because it's made of Kryptonian fabric, which is significantly more durable than most materials on Earth.
It's a sin to do a cinemasin on this movie.
Read the description.
Its also a sin for you to post a comment in this cinemasins video
At least it's not "Everything Wrong with Citizen Kane." Though that might be the shortest video ever made.
Gene Glagolev 1 cinema sin: There was no one by his deathbed hearing him say "Rosebud".
You're right, this movie is such a horrible pile of shit that it should be a sin to make a CinemaSin about it.
Movie thinks that what introverts really want, is to be invited to party's and be the centre of attention.
Ding.
no, I think its really just the main character.
Mick Kiese That is 100% the point of Kfor Kira'a comment. Do you know which TH-cam channel you're on?
Eisbaer Borealis Oops your right mis read the comment
What do they want?
@@incog0956, typically to not be forced into situations that would cause then to be the center of attention.
You know what else has a black screen and a zipper noise?
"No Russian".
One of the edgiest video game moments.
Remember. No Russian.
Ru Gray I’m lost
Blaize M You haven’t played Call of Duty Modern Warfare have you.
Ru Gray not in a while no
ITS NOT A FOUND FOOTAGE MOVIE. It's just a movie told through the narrative of video cameras, chronicled if you will.
Still qualifies as "found footage".
Emerson Fant The term "found footage" has lost its litteral meaning. Saying "it's not found" is a nitpick
***** That's just straight up not true
PressFartToContinue CanSuckAFatWiener the best kind of right
Dudeguyforeverlulz When push comes to shove, you gotta do what you love. Even if it's not a good idea.
7:14 I think it was said in the movie at some point that they could generate telekinetic force fields.
MestariDuff You're right. There's even a scene where they test it out in a diner. One of them stabs Andrew's hand with a fork and the fork bends, but Andrew's hand is okay.
Permalight Matt's hand*
MestariDuff Yeah they would have to or something as simple as flying would be risky. High altitude, thinning air, coldness, speed and yes (as we saw) lightning strikes. They would need to figure out a good way to protect themselves.
Well how did he get speared at the end?
FloppyFlapjak If I get the context of your question I would say whatever protection they have just protects from environmental issues such as thin air and coldness and not other stuff such as lighting strikes and getting speared.
Like the aura that protects the Flash from the effects of running as super speed but won't, itself, protect him from being attacked by someone.
This movie would have been so much better if it wasn't made in that stupid fucking "Found footage" genre...
For me this is the only instance where I did like it
Robert Whittaker I kind of enjoyed the fact that it didn't go over-board with it like Cloverfield did.
If I had to say I like one of these"found footage" movies i'd most-likely choose this one over all others due to it's control of the gimmick.
Found footage works well though, since it gives off a much more realistic impression.
Mike Hawk Its not a very realistic impression when it keeps hopping from person to person, to what looked like security camera footage in the hospital, etc etc etc
RaveriusMax True, that was the only minor flaw.
So... Nobody's going to point out that it wasn't Andrew who was hit by the bus? It was Matt. I remember that because it was a point that was in every trailer and in the movie he'd just mumbled how he was an apex predator and there was honking, Matt turned to look, BUS TO THE FACE!!! Also, Andrew was in hospital gowns, casts and all of that, not a hoodie.
CinemaSins lied to create a bogus sin.
*Ding*
Soemeone still got hit by a flying bus and still survived,that was the real point for that sin :P
wathe nube No the point of that sin was how he should have lost the phones when he was hit by the bus when he was never hit by the bus. Them surviving that was another sin. It is also a bogus sin since they explained in the movie and demonstrated, at its weakest when they could only do it while focusing on one spot and bent a fork, how they were focusing on covering themselves in a layer of telekinetic energy to stop anything. Given how their way of flying was to also cover themselves with it and move themselves, they had their shields up. That's how they survived it. Both sins are bogus.
*Ding*
Theinen84 I never watched the movie
*ding*
wathe nube Yet you tried to comment and correct me, and think that excuse somehow brings you out on top of this? lol. No you should've just stayed quiet if you never watched it so you don't look silly.
*Ding*
Theinen84 I was stating based on the point of the video,neither did I tried to correct you
*ding*
I like how you don't say anything about the 'face period' thing and just nonchalantly add a sin XD
You forgot: the black guy died first
And in X-Men First Class. Somekind of tradition or something I guess.
He never sins that shit...i think HES a racist
Regarding sin 53, yes, my high school did actually allow a guy to do a tightrope act for our talent show, He also rode a unicycle and juggled. I dunno if he was raised in a circus or what, but he was a cool dude and hot as fuck too.
A circus was actually invited to my middle school, letting students sign up to do tightrope and high bar acts while they were there for a week or so. (contingent on parent approval)
There's also a several channels featuring footage they took in school of everyone and everything. Maybe its changed in recent years, but not all schools were as strict as this guy seems to think.
8:38 Harry Kills Spidey
+tiagovalen good catch
Oooooo true
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LMAOOO that iJustine reference was too great
i dont get the reference...
Hi Nathan
Howdy
DUDE I SWEAR TO GOD YOU ARE ON THE COMMENTS OF EVERY SINGLE VIDEO I WATCH... ly
The third pew is the BEST!!!!!
Most underrated movie of the century
Ong
Some retard is gonna say "Far from it because *insert random trash movie* is better with one dimensional reasoning
into the spiderverse is my favorite, and i can think of many way better movies
@@Azukwuah
He didn't say it was the best movie ever, he said it was underrated - which means it's not as popular/liked as it should be.
I don't understand people like you who have to make a competition out of everything when someone is just basically saying "It's a good movie."
@@Azukwuah Except Spiderverse is nowhere near being underrated. Hell, it has won several awards.
“When people 'found' the footage of three teenagers developing superpowers”
When does the film ever establish that this is actual footage found and compiled? I don't think the film was going for that, I think it's just using the cameras as a way of storytelling
That's how found footage is
+Marvel fan are you saying the first or latter way? some found footage is meant as "found" and others is just "footage". i agree that it was just a way of story telling. i dont think they were trying to imply that anybody found the footage and compiled it all
Found footage implies found footage, it's that simple. If this footage wasn't found then there was no point filming it that way in the first place. With "The Blair Witch" it's all filmed on one camera so it makes sense that someone found it, but this was unnecessary. Cool but unnecessary.
Joe A. Verage
If that was the case it wouldn't be called :found footage." That's just stupid to put a movie in that category and then say "It wasn't actually found though. It's 'found footage' but no one found it." Found footage=footage that was found. If it's not found footage then the people who make it should make that clear.
Joe A. Verage
I think that what you're mainly not getting is that even if the director didn't say it was found, it was found because we are watching it. We don't know who found it, but because it was found we can watch it. If it was never found we could never watch it. The footage was found no matter how you try to twist it because we are watching the footage. So, no matter what, a found footage movie is a found footage movie.
4:00
"If only we had powers that could remove the truck from the water!"
If you looked closely when watching the movie, Andrew begins to raise the car (it may be barely but you can clearly see that the car is moving up). Andrew starts saying that he can help but Matt tells him to stop so clearly they thought of the fact that they could move the car but didn't because they didn't want to risk causing more damage.
So really, that shouldn't have been a sin.
i love cinemasins i really do but he was looking hard for sins in this one because honestlu chronicle was a really good movie
Their job is to be nitpicky whether the movie is good or not. He mentions that quite a bit with some of his favorite movies
1. Black guy dies to empower white guy
2. Cliche'd best friend goes evil plot
3.
White Chocolate Mousse 4. Profit
Don't take it too seriously. CinemaSins aims for humour; if it didn't it would just be a boring pessimist criticising films.
Was a good movie up until the end. Kid can deflect mother fucking bullets, but a spear from a statue catches him off guard? And the end scene with that horrible background...
I normally like your videos, but it seems like you just found any part of this movie that stood out and just said something about it, then declared it a sin just cause. I understand it's been requested you do a EWW for this movie, but you shouldn't add random points just to add length to the video.
Everything Wrong With "Everything Wrong With Chronicle"
0:22 You basically gave the movie a sin just so you could make a porn joke +1
0:27 So, having a slightly dark back story to a character is automatically a bad thing? +1
1:28 I've heard people say they're trying to be a Good Cousin many times +1
2:04 Crying automatically makes a movie bad +1
3:04 Explaining why the father is abusive is a bad thing? Should he just be nothing more than an asshole without any reason? +1
3:42 Having a character say a joke someone of his age would realistically say is a sin +1
3:58 Andrew suggests using their powers, but they tell him it's already fucked up enough and are afraid he might just make shit worse. +1
4:05 I'm pretty sure they tell Andrew to stop recording multiple times but he just kinda ignores them. +1
4:12 Who's going to see them THAT high up? They're at the same altitude that planes fly, and from the ground, those big ass planes look smaller than ants. +1
4:52 Having beer bottles around a home with a drinker is somehow unrealistic +1
7:17 If you watched the movie, they explain how they can use Telekinesis to basically shield themselves to a certain amount, that's how.
7:27 How is him using the power he's had the entire movie to impale Andrew Deus-Ex-Machina? That's like saying wolverine's healing factor is Deus-Ex-Machina. +1
7:28 When did going to mountains become Andrew's hobby? He said he wanted to go there one day, that's not a hobby. Sure, in one part of the movie Andrew and Steve fly places with their powers, but that's not a hobby, that's using your new superpowers to do whatever the fuck you want +1
7:42 He has telekinesis, wouldn't be to hard to find Andrew's camera and just take it. +1
Bonus: Nearly half the sins are just repeats of sins you already mentioned, I.E. They basically mentioned the one girl being a blogger with a camera as a sin about 6 times, Andrew's dad being a drinker is about 4 of the sins, Steve being friends with them is like 3 sins. +7
EWW Sin Count: 21
Sentence: No Like
Omg, the sin counter doesn't mean anything. Have you watched the EWW that they did for themselves? The only purpose of these videos is humor.
They do that in every video. You're just pissy because it is your favorite movie.
I can see you liked the movie, but clearly you have never seen EWW videos,, they count random facts and other stuff as sins, it's part of the fun.
Alpha Heisenbadger It's far from my favorite, and just because they do it in other videos doesn't mean it makes any sense. It's not humorous in any of their videos when they do it, whether they're reviewing a good movie or a bad movie. I.E. I've never seen "The Wolverine" but in their review there's a part when they say "Wolverine straight up tries to murder a dude *ding*" I don't see how that could possibly be seen as a joke, and if it's not a joke, it doesn't make sense because they're basically saying its a bad thing that Wolverine is acting according to his personality?
ZionSype They literally said in their sins video about themselves that they point out irrelevant things in movies as "sins"...
My biggest problem with Chronicle was how they shoehorned in the ridiculous found footage. There was no need for it to be found footage and the only thing it added was force them to write awful lines of dialogue to tell the audience why they're recording each other.
Plus, making it found footage created a whole bunch of other issues (like who's filming at the end?)
Actually, found footage film are usually much cheaper to make. I believe in the case of Chronicle, this allows them to create many special effects by both saving on budget and being able to conceal some of the roughness of the cgi.
thanks Jeremy Kyle
Clash957 It destroys the whole movie. Fuck special effects when I can't see the thing because I'm getting so annoyed because I'm tired of not seeing everybody in the conversation and the fact that the twat who's holding the camera never does a good work of doing so. So fuck movies like this one.
Charles Xll
There were no problems like that in the movie...you could see everything that you needed to see. As for "not seeing everybody in the conversation", that's not always needed, you can tell who's talking by the voices and who you saw in the establishing shots.
"If only we all had powers to remove the truck from the water." I literally cried, lmao
I felt that the plotline for this movie was very rushed and didn't really explain a lot, in two minutes they went from discovering some rock to perfecting their powers
I kinda like that they went with the Dawn of the Dead approach of saying that the 'why' doesn't really matter. I'm kinda bored with the whole "discovering their powers for the first time" bit.
Maybe that was just part of the found footage approach. Some parts got left out.
I just wish Dane was evil for longer
Its also rushed because it completely ripped off Akira.
Well the writer of this film explained that he wanted to explain the rock through the sequels, by following different characters and finding out little bits and pieces about it.
"There's no crying in superhero movies"
I thought you had watched the Sam Raimi Spiderman trilogy?
Also when the camera is moving forward in Andrew's hospital room, I think it was showing that he was using his powers to move the camera
My one objection is that I don't think Chronicle is a "found footage" movie. Yes, the POV is always through a diegetic camera, but there's no conceit that the movie itself is something someone in the world of the movie actually assembled for us to watch. I think it was just supposed to be an excuse for unusual and possibly more "intimate" POVs.
That and movies that use this type of POV are cheaper to make.
Are they? I would have no idea, but if that's true, I imagine that's an important factor as well. You can justify it as a "stylistic choice" and cut the budget at the same time.
"there's no conceit that the movie itself is something someone in the world of the movie actually assembled for us to watch"
That's actually why things like the implausibility of anyone having access to certain footage in this movie, like the cellphone or security camera shots, didn't bother me at all.
I'm so glad that at least this guy gets it. I get the cinemasins are supposed to be funny and all but the movie never claimed to be found footage at any point. Certainly more of a stylized way of shooting which did later allow them to change viewpoints later on in the movie to various security cameras, etc. Even when they did shots at the end from no camera within the scene, I wasn't bothered because it also served its purpose for that time. One of my most enjoyed parts of this movie was the approach they took in shooting it.
The writer or director stated in an interview that the was in fact not found footage but pov. At least some people understand that because a movie is viewed by the audience through the lense of a character's camera , it does not make it found footage.
If you'd remember a important scene, they said that as long as they were ready for the hit to your body, that they were pretty much invulnerable to it.
Sin 71 really shouldn't exist. In the original script, he pulls his father apart like he did the spider, but it was decided that would be too graphic.
That is graphic!
Is Chronicle based on a book?
That would have made the movie a bit better, really. Plus it make the spider more effective foreshadowing and whatnot.
It doesn't matter if it was in the original script, the sins are related to the finished product, he never takes stuff like that into account.
this story is a villain origin they should have thrown the words "to graphic" out the window
This movie was basically Akira. Which is good, because hopefully the live-action Akira won't come out. EVER.
Yea, but if they do I hope they follow the manga a little more, even if they have to make it into two parts.
Not really. Andrew is. But the rest is different. One thing doesn't make it basically the same.
There ACTUALLY is a live-action Akira being made right now XD
supremeoveralskaters Which is very clearly what he's referring to in his comment.
Remember the part with the fork stabbing force field trick? that's how they survived the impacts. They divert some of their consciousness into maintaining a telekinetic shield around them to protect them from harm. During the movie it seems the shield really only protects them from impact and, if the force is great enough, the shield only reduces the damage. That's why andrew could survive the gas explosion, but still got knocked out. It's also why...Matt could impale Andrew ant the end, Andrew was too focused on fighting the cops to keep his shield up all the time.
It doesn't reduce the damage, they just haven't trained enough to master it
exactly. u would think their subconscious wouldnt allow that but maybe im just nitpicking
Omegeddon I see ti as tightening your abs to protect against getting punched in the stomach. If you never practice, you have to focus on the timing and flexing, but if you practiced enough your subconscious would start to do it for you. However, if you were doing something else that required all your focus, somebody could run and punch you in the stomach and you wouldn't flex your abs. I have no idea if that's what the writers thought about when they wrote the scene and the movie, but it fits pretty well with what happened.
ok cool
did you notice when andrew stabed matt's hand with a fort and it matt blocked it with his power.that was when they couldnt even lift a car.so they probaly protect themselves way better at the end.
ElectronicSwordfish fork*
Ien Smith no a fort, a fork is something a lot of people hide in from armies and stuff.
would you mind telling me how you hide in a FORK
Through the gates, then close them.
its obvious your trolling now
Also, at 6:29, instead of dropping him, Andrew was going to tear his dad's limbs off like he did with the spider, but it was changed to keep it PG-13.
Aw man, that would've been awesome!
cosmo6871 find the script, read it and get disappointed from all the cool shit left out of the movie. including the cool superhero ending. sigh
It was a 15 for me!
healingv1sion What was the ending in the script?
healingv1sion How can you say that without telling us the ending?
One note: Plato and Schopenhauer aren't obscure philosophers, they're both most likely on page 1, Chapter 1 of Philosophy for Dummies
Plato and his allegory of the cave, yes, That was a "day one handout" thing in philosophy. But, Schope? cmon He's, at the very earliest, someone who gets introduced after the mid-term, if at all, in an intro to philosophy course.
You study schopenhauer in high school the philosopher i was refer for existentialism thinking was sarte
1blackone You have a point there, in my case he was someone I began to learn about in the latter half of my first year as opposed to the former, but Schopenhauer still is very well in terms of being in the public consciousness, and can't really be described as being an "obscure" philosopher
Kid who is bullied, has no friends, has an abusive parent, then destroys a city with telekinesis. Sounds oddly familiar.......
Yes, but Andrew wasn't in that time of the month.
That sounds *bloody* familiar.
you can do that with a lot of movies. You know, simplifying them to different things that suit your hypothesis that it's ripping something off
13dirty666 Hell, if we believe the monomyth theory, Chronicle would have ripped of Nosferatu. in some way.
Krwzprtt because it's about an innocent boy who has potential to be a hero who turns evil...it ripped off Star Wars I-III
"Is this film becoming Akira?" I was crying.
You finally made an Akira reference.
*Slow clap*
Have you forgotten spiderman 1-3? (THERE IS TOO MUCH CRYING)
I think he already did them. I know he did number 3 but I don't remember if he did the rest
he did
because he said that there's no crying in superhero movies and spiderman 1 2 and 3 tobey was crying way too much. fucktard.
and he didn't mention those movies.
Sin 79 needs to be removed, that's your fault for not paying attention to the movie Jeremy...
At the diner scene, it shows that they're able to put telekinetic forcefields around themselves making
them completely invincible when they want!
Not completely invincible but most things like bullets or a bus to the face yeah
I hope he realizes that this movie was inspired by Akira, anyone who ever saw Akira would have realized the elements not too far into the film....just putting that out there.
I think the whole found footage idea doesn't apply to this movie. It's not like it's all found footage but rather is being viewed live just through different vessels. Like, you, the viewer, are trying to watch this, but to make it realistic you're experiencing it through a camera, then security footage, and then a phone. It's like everything is happening live and you just need a way to see it without the traditional viewing style of a movie.
Thank you, that's exactly what my interpretation of this movie was! And yet there are a couple of people who think someone went through all the trouble of finding this footage....
L THE FUCK O L. "If your logo is unrecognizable and also contains no words or clues to the name of your company... do us all a favor and just save us the five seconds, okay?"
that was so harsh and funny. that has to be the best cinema sins opening ever!
If you ignore all the Found Footage sins, there really aren't that many.
Convenient.
Problem is, this movie is also known as "the foundfootage-superhero movie".
I feel like you never have any fun watching movies.
Just like my bro and me sometimes lol
+Robert William They do have fun watching movies. It just adds to it to point out all the sins they find. they probably watch the movie for fun then the second or third time watch it for the sins because you really dont notice them unless you watch them multiple times and see things you didnt notice before.
+Robert William
See: "Everything Wrong With CinemaSins"
Thanks to this channel I don't either xD
+Robert William They have to watch the film lots of times to get all the sins together, so I doubt they can't enjoy a movie the first time.
Just an FYI, for #70, the directors intended to have Andrew rip his dad apart like he did with the spider, but it was changed in order to achieve the pg-13 rating.
Although I don't know why they'd want it pg-13, it should've been rated r. This is literally my favorite movie.
Well there was only one director and it was probably the writers who originally intended it that way, and even if they had a "reason" for doing it the way they did, it's still kind of silly.
If this was rated r, can there be lap dances in it? They can do it in the sky or on the ceiling in their rooms?
hedrack08 Only one writer. It was me. Studio made me change it.
Well you guys know what I mean. Writers, directors, yadda yadda yadda.
BikouTenma My main point is that I can still see why he counted it as a sin.
I love the part where the kid yells"leave me alone" and blows away the whole swat team
The fact that they referenced Pluto's allegory of the Cave was impressive for a found-footage film,that that story is only mentioned because it's about a cave *DING*
it was such a stupid reference, too. the allegory literally had nothing to do with that hole they were going into
***** Oh my God, some people are just so uneducated.... Pluto's allegory used to be an actual allegory, but philosophers of this society have decided it's not actually an allegory and more of a dwarf story. Seriously, all it takes is a quick Google search to educate yourself
***** Come on, he was obviously making a joke, referencing the fact that Pluto, the ex-planet, is now classified as a dwarf planet. No need to imply he's an asswipe.
Daniel Petersen Yes! You get my style of humor!
that's not shady at all.
Another sin: NONE of these guys actually tried complicated things with their telekinesis. If you read on the superpower wiki, you will understand what i mean. Telekinesis is way more powerful than just moving things. If you know what to do.
That is damn wiki. It is wiki. It's WIKI!!11. Calm down because it could be lies.
I aM X2 :) The Jean does what i meant.
gene? or jean?
I aM Jean Grey, possessed by the phoenix force could manipulate forces more powerful than gravity, such as the strong nuclear force.
Next time put Jean G.
This movie was great, I always love sins on movies that I enjoyed. It's like a different perspective. :)
That moment when you think a movie is genuinly good and it get's a low score by CinemaSins
Every movie has at least twenty sins cliché (ding)
*****
But it does. When they have to invent sins (like here) the count is not big. But with movies like "Transformers" or "Kingdom of Crystal Skull" they can get 100 actual sins easily.
Of course, the video about some movie doesn't mean movie itself is bad. But you can't say that count doesn't mean anything either.
SolarWindsRider I'd say that if the person who decides on the counter says that it doesn't mean anything then yes, you can say that it doesn't mean anything.
Phrenetic Reaper
Jeremy guy himself ? He does not simply ding the sins, for some reason the counter is there. So it does mean something. Again, this is not an objective evaluation of the quality of the movie. But in general - bigger the count, more holes (real or stretched out) the movie has.
SolarWindsRider
Even though quite a lot of sins in all his videos are pretty much him making a joke. Also, the sins have no real value.
Also, if you think a movie is genuinely good then it's genuinely good. Why does a video that was made for comedy suddenly change your mind rather than the serious reviewers who said they didn't like the movie?
The movie isn't bad. I just wished that it utilized the 'found footage' subplot a tad better because that's where it failed immensely.
but of course, if this was played into the realistic concept on handheld cameras, there should've been more than one perspective(different people recording footage of the events)
yungvernables there were in many scenes
I've been waiting so long for a sequel to this movie. Who's with me on this!
HYUBRΛN hate to break it to you bud but it’s been awhile doesn’t look like there will be a sequel
Yeah its been a min
Jimmy Valmer read the sequel script
@@SimpleThing43 sequel has been confirmed
well good news
Lol this is my favorite movie. I love cinema sins, but you guys really had to stretch to find things wrong with this movie. It's perfection!
Also this video disproves your theory of the movie being perfect
magic may not get you laid, and beer pong may not get you laid, but what about magic beer pong?
They were able to live when smashing through building because as shown during the fork scene if they know its coming they can put up a sort of "forcefield" around them to block it.
Playologygames they r still going from high speeds to stopping in a split second that would destroy the brain.
lithium2370 internal force fields
***** what would the internal force field do?
lithium2370 They arent stopping, they are moving the building pieces around their body, like a force field around them.
Playologygames when they hit the ground they stop lol even if they didn't feel the ground because of the force field. they still are decelerating too fast for their organs, thats why i hate when superman catches someone while they are falling and hes flying at them, he would catch them but they would still turn into soup
This one was bad. Not the movie but this video... Seems like half the sins are bitching about the "found footage" and as to who has it or not at any particular scene. Which means the movie is actually good. But I like watching this channel specifically because you point out funny and ridiculous things... Despite people's requests don't do it on good movies if you have to be reaching for straws.
KeijiMaeda86 I think people are getting tired of telling people that this is all satirical. Also this movie was terrible. If your gonna do a found footage film you need a good reason to have some found footage. That's a legitimate problem with these types of movies.
KeijiMaeda86 Well, IF you're going to do your movie as found footage you really should think it through and know who is filming everything and why. You also can't do dramatic zooms and other professional camera shots when there's no one to do them.
I also don't see a real reason why this movie had to be found footage at all.
Chris McWilliams
It wasn't a found footage film though...
Dead End Maybe not in that someone found the footage and watched it but yeah characters were carrying around cameras and filming everything for poorly defined, vague, reasons and it got in the way of the story.
I could kind of see if they started filming themselves when their powers started and maybe filmed themselves testing their powers and whatnot but a lot of what they were shown filming made no sense and the video is right that filming little girls in a public place is going to get in trouble. Also, yeah a pharmacy is not going to have any of that due to privacy issues.
All and all the movie would've been better either switching back and forth (filming most of it normal with interludes of them documenting their powers and testing them) or just being a normal movie.
Chris McWilliams
Hmm. I think they did the camera shots quite well and I rather enjoyed it. But to each their own I guess.
Now, I'm no scientist, but I'm fairly certain that telekinesis does not allow the control of electricity.
Well telekinesis does allow you to control things with your mind, so theoretically, as long as the electricity is visible, you could maybe control it.
Control electrons - control electricity. Fairly easy.
well electricity is an organized flow of electrons. and one of the most important rules of it is that the amount that comes in, comes out(errr that's what she said?). therefore, they need some source to get the electrons from, and a place were they will go. so you need a battery. and a "reason" for the electricity to flow. i'm not an expert, but yeah, science
anipaper2 Forget science, this is comicbook physics!
Electrons are all around us, so all you need is telekinesis to move them. I understand that not all electrons move freely, but ... telekinesis!
Maybe, but that's assuming that the power they had was telekinesis and THAT is not stated in the movie or what the conditions were.
Let's not forget the part where no one sees two dudes lounging around on top of a building in downtown Seattle.
Or the fact that Andrew telekinetically manipulates his camera. If a guy carrying a camera everywhere wasn't conspicuous and alarming enough, a guy with a camera always magically hovering around him definitely would be.
Most people aren’t looking up,looking for things
Take heart everybody. This movie is probably the closest we will ever get to seeing a live action version of Akira.
Sorry if I sound stupid, but what's Akira?
MrEffectfilms One of the greatest anime movies ever. Based on the Manga by Katsuhiro Otomo, basically it follows a boy who gains superpowers. It is the movie that inspired The Matrix and spurred the popularity of anime outside of Japan.
Sorry for the nerd out, but if you like anime or action movies then check it out.
Thank God!
oh
MrEffectfilms
You do sound stupid given that google is literally two seconds away.
I love "what's wrong with" but somehow 80% of this was unnecessary nitpicking honesty.
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NO really, I love all of them, I'm here a long time, it's just I don't know, with this particular one the nitpicking was over 9000 xD
but it's a weak joke
*_Everything wrong with Forrest Gump_*
It would be awesome since its my favorite movie. Screen Junkies tried hard but they failed. I want to see that does this movie have SINS. I mean the real SINS not that baby SINS.
***** she had a messy life, her father used to bang her elder sisters
think how gross it was. ugh! anyone can loses their minds.
and Forrest was a nice douche, He never gave up. he just walk with the flow. or we can say run :p
screen junkies didn't fail. their honest trailer was awesome and hilarious
JunK nah i didn't feel that much. as their other trailers.
darking2jarlie
maybe because it's your favorite movie
Fakus Namus no thats not there are many fav movies of mine
i.e harry potter and i've saw their honest trailers and they cracked me up as well as i am greed what they show
It doesn't matter who "stitched together the footage to make a film." It's just a film told from the perspective of actual cameras.
Keep in mind, this channel is literally designed to nitpick everything. That is the idea behind it. Even if a movie is good, which I believe Chronicle is, they still love to throw whatever they see in there.
Gage Eakins Yes, it's true. But his point is valid, Chronicles is not a "stitched together the footage to make a film.". A lot of his nitpick are literally "How the Fuck does they put these footages to make a film"
Well it does matter to an extent, because it undermines the whole found footage thing meaning they might as well have just made a regular movie.
Nicholas Reffin Considering what the found footage movie is about, we can just assume the government is watching it, like in Cloverfield, or it's being watched by someone who stole the tapes and is watching them, like in Paranormal Activity 3. It's rather interesting to think that just, watching the movie alone, adds a bit more plot/mystery to the story the film is about.
" It's just a film told from the perspective of actual cameras."
Which needs to just die as a technique. It's a regular movie, but instead of showing you good viewer camera angles, they show you angles that are only supposedly from in-universe cameras. That adds nothing to a film, it just means they have to waste time inventing bullshit reasons to have an in-universe camera in every scene.
loved this movie.
Yah, same. I really really enjoyed it.
It really was not bad once you conciser the fact the director and actors were all new to the movie business.
Everything Wrong With Project Almanac, please.
I LOVE THAT MOVIE
never seen it because i usually go to the movies with my grandpa and he decided to see it the day i wasnt here and he hated it so he wont let me see it even though i love movies like that sooo... yeah.
What the hell was the point in all that 'found footage' bullturd? Three reasons why just using a normal camera was better idea:
1: Nobody brings a camera everywhere they go.
2: It removes the bullcrap that two people are constantly glued to their video cameras.
3: Would have made for a much better film overall with background scores, no shaky camera movement and better final fight scene.
4:11 you realize, don't you, that if you are up high enough that planes cruise, you wouldn't be able to breathe as the air is too thin and it would be around -50F
they explain this with the snow jackets... i know, its a fucking movie
I would point out a different sin in that scene.
When they were flying in the sky effects of the wind should be WAY more visible on their clothes, their faces etc. Just check out videos of parachute jumpers.
I didn't mention that because the Tebow guy was sort of hovering in the air in that scene, not actually moving and, while I know that in cities you can be on the ground and not feel any wind at all but on the roof of a 100 story building and have A LOT of wind, I don't know how much wind is present at 35,000 feet
dragonweyr44
It is intense. Doesn't matter if you are at rest or moving. Let's put it this way - they could've picked a bigger fan for filming that scene :)
SolarWindsRider parachute jumpers are falling at terminal velocity(which is pretty fast) so thats why. but yea i still agree. The ball would definitely not go where they were trying to throw it. and they would probably drift miles away from where they thought they were.
The original script for the movie actually had Richard(the father) being dismembered by Andrew just like what he did to the spider. As you can see that was to graphic so they scrapped it and just dropped him.
I’ve watched every cinema sims video but had no idea this one existed😭
I just found this myself!
Lmao exactly
Yo I thought I was alone 😭
Probably because it was only recently reuploaded
scarlet night it came out..... 5 years ago...... and hasn’t been reuploaded...
I loved this movie. Good thing they're making a sequel. This was the most realistic super human powers film, really gives you a view of what happens if you achieve super powers, responsibility and what humans would do if they're mentally unstable. Also all those sins were practically illlogical or irrelevant, but w/e this is CinemaSins, the world of trying to juice out every last bit of sin from a movie.
I thought they canceled the sequel ? They are making a new one?
cooldude6848 They cancelled it? This is the first time I hear of this. Noooooooooooooooo!
They are making a sequel. They just cancelled a script called "Martyr" which originally was the sequel.
Did you know that the director/writer Josh Trank is making the reboot of The Fantastic Four?
cooldude6848 They're making a sequel but the writer for this film left the project because supposedly 20th Century Fox wanted to essentially rehash this film's story with a new group of characters rather than moving forward with the story.
This was funny and all, but it seems like you guys were really reaching with a lot of the "sins." Having a dark explanation is a sin? Crying is a sin? The charm of "Cinema Sins" is the fact that you guys point out ACTUAL flaws in popular movies. I know this was requested, and the video can't be 2 minutes long, but it just bugs me, I guess.
Uh, no. They don't point out "actual flaws", they nitpick, that's their shtick. Where have you been for like, all of CinemaSins' videos?
Yeah, but they usually nitpick real problems, even if they're small. Saying, "There's no crying in superhero movies" feels different to me, that's all.
dlweiss I felt like they highlighted one of the real, significant problems of this movie: the found footage element. It is, once again, not used very well, even for a movie that is half-decent. Whenever I see people complain about CinemaSins failing to compile a list of viable "sins", I simply can't help but state this: THE POINT IS FOR ENTERTAINMENT, NOT FOR ACTUAL ANALYSIS. These people wouldn't have nearly the following that they do without a little lighthearted sarcasm, sardonic humor, and biting (yet not necessarily correct) criticism. If they just straight up tore a movie to pieces, no matter how hard they tried, they would simply not have the viewer population that they currently do. Want an example of someone who puts in twice the effort and has twice the talent but has half the subscribers (if not less)? YourMovieSucksProductions. If he had the upload frequency of CS, he might have long since surpassed them, but unlike them he actually gives a shit about actually tearing a movie apart from the seams and seeing what's left (since he clearly has studied the art of film-making and proper methods of exploring it in criticism).
A ton of the sins for all their videos (except for movies like transformers, that are that awful) tend to have either extreme nitpicks or just stupid stuff to be funny, like how crying in a superhero movie is a sin. It's not actually something wrong in the movie in anyway, it's just to be funny.
Not arguing or anything, just pointing out why he said the crying bit; the way he said it was a reference to the movie 'A League of Their Own' when Tom Hanks yells, "There's no crying in baseball!"
Simple answer : the phone was a nokia :D
Seriously? People still doing this joke in 2014?
Yep
MrBooommbastic
The blendtec blender took apart the nokia much faster than an iphone, just saying...
did you actually saw the movie? they had invulnerability? remember the fork scene?
Its Rydar technically no. they made a forcefield with there telekenesis, which in result caused the fork to bend, they didnt focus and bend the fork
fool
***** Well any objects not controlled by telekinesis would be subject to those as well. So that's a decent start, but I'd add that they could create telekinetic barriers around other objects. Also other factors like possibly shoving an opening through body barrier. Then there's the way bullets and bullet vests work that allows for force to be absorbed but that can't block that force at a specific point. Unless we're inside a character's head hearing their thoughts, we really wouldn't know for sure though.
Really it's strange that lightning was part of their powers as well as it'd take a lot to grab something the human eye can't see and can't be felt otherwise. There's also a logical chance that the lightning was mere chance unless the character felt their powers do something.
Redflametrow : "Really it's strange that lightning was part of their powers as well as it'd take a lot to grab something the human eye can't see and can't be felt otherwise."
We don't know if telekinesis was their only ability, especially since they could hear one another and sense one another's location during certain scenes.
Its Rydar the writer of the film stated that it wasn't Andrew who killed his friend, Steve was just unlucky and got hit by random lightning.
2:20 that is literally a plot hole
Literally?
***** it's a hole in the ground where they make an excuse for why the kids have superpowers. So yes, it's a literal plot hole
Deus Ex Machina.
JRPGPirate I guess it's more of that and less of a plot hole...Alien Crystal Ex Machina?
I dont think you know what a plot hole is
Best, underrated film, EVER.
I agree 100%
I don't get why so many people seem to bash this movie for being a "found footage" movie (even though it's not exactly a found footage movie, but more on that later). Within the first few minutes, it is explained why the main character bought a camera: he tells his abusive alcoholic father that he will film everything he does so that his father can not hurt him anymore. If his father even tries anything, the video evidence would go straight to the police. He is also an angsty teenager who eventually started filming everything as an obsessive hobby. I'm sure we all know someone who was obsessed about something and absolutely *had* to have it in every aspect of their life. I really liked how the camera wouldn't just stick with the main character; instead, it would jump from his camera to someone's phone, security cameras in stores, news helicopters, etc. The only time any footage was ever "found" in the entire movie was actually at the end when another character leaves the camera (which probably belonged to the main character) in the mountains and someone would probably find it. Actually, a lot of things are explained in the movie. It's just that people either don't pay attention or they usually come in to the movie biased against it.
+The Smoking Skull Unless you think of it in a different way, as a new subgenre of the found footage genre. Instead of viewing it as "Oh someone found this footage and stitched it all together", think of it more as you are watching it as it is happening, as with most movies. It is using "found footage" style, but the way it is shot, as when the people are filming him with their phones before he smashes them, seems more of a as it happens type thing. You, the viewer, are all cameras viewing what is happening before that cameras death. Reposting myself on the same thread but I thought I had a good idea.
Bridgette Gleaves I totally agree with you!
+The Smoking Skull But why would you tell your abusive alcoholic father that you're filming everything? What's stopping him from destroying you and the camera... you still need to get it to the police which is something he can interfere with at any point now that he is aware that he is being recorded.
10RexTheWolf01 He still goes to school, he could have had any of his friends bring the evidence to the police. Plus, his father backed down after hearing mention of the police. But your point still stands, sort of, as the father does try to beat him up later in the movie despite the camera being set up.
+Bridgette Gleaves Plus, if you think about a documentary, they gather ALL the footage they could possibly find and assemble it all as best as they could. I'm PRETTY sure (albeit not completely) that a few of the scenes aren't in actual chronological order.
i dont think the camera footage is suposed to be like "this was edited together and released to the public" i think its just that we are seeing the cameras pov
Do HANCOCK!!!
That was the worst movie I've ever seen, and I've seen many movies!
It's so bad, it doesn't need to be made into a CinemaSins video.
What? A movie of a bunch of irresponsible superheroes wasn't enough? :p
crash979797
Well there was a cinema sins on that justin bieber movie, and the twilights. Hancock was pretty descent compared to those other movies.
crash979797 What about TMNT III? That shit was the mother fucking ass.
PLEASE DO IT CINEMA SINS!!!!!!!!
I swear he finds EVERY LITTLE THING that can be told as a "sin" this was a good movie, does he like sitting in his room watching movies all day and saying what's wrong with them?
The movie sucked
Jesse Barrera you do realize that's his job right? He's said multiple times he loves movies but when he "puts on his sins hat" he nitpicks things that wouldn't even really be nitpicks anyways.
Jesse Barrera On a fun note: the whole channel is satirical, it's a joke review channel. Emphasis on joke.
Yes. That's literally his job.
Jesse Barrera It's for comedy
"Don't mind us... We're mormon!" 😂😂
One of the biggest problems with the sin about the bus and crashing through shit is that it is possible for them to survive that. That is why there is the restaurant scene where Andrew shows how he can create a barrier around his friends hand, and then attempt to jam a fork into his hand, but it only bends the fork. Basically they survived by doing that same thing around their bodies which protected them. Also, as mentioned in the comments, Andrew didn't get hit by the bus therefore the cameras he took were still there. As for finding the first camera that got buried, it's a found footage film. Maybe someone, possibly Andrew's cousin, dug up the camera later on.