I wonder if Tingyun AI is calculating based on the Base Stat of the character's ultimate damage perimeters. If that's the case, since Blade has Attack + HP and HP Lost in battle will always be targeted because his base perimeters will be insanely high. A test will be to make Blade's stats so his HP and Attacks is less than 4K Attack of Jingliu and see if that would work.
I genuinely think it's cuz blade hes hp and he benefits from dmg%, so she correctly gives atk to other dps, but distributes dmg% to blade as if to balance buffing
Nope, they just fucked up blades coding. Back in patch 1.2 bronya would buff luocha instead of blade, they then "fixed" it by prioritizing blade instead lol which for some reason affected every dps.
So this is apparently a thing. Its been happening to Bronya's Skill targetting as well. Zero relic equipped Blade vs Fully equipped JL in maniac mode. Blade still gets buffed by Bronya.
They just fucked up blades coding. Back in patch 1.2 bronya would buff luocha instead of blade, they then "fixed" it by prioritizing blade instead lol which for some reason affected every dps.
From my experience Tingyun ults on the ally that get the most usage out of the energy gain, or rather the ally that would be the closest to getting their ult after getting her 50 energy. Unfortunately that's often not what you want on auto
When it comes to Tingyun auto-battle, the same situation happens when Kafka and Sampo are on the same team. Tingyun uses her Skill on Kafka but refuses to use the Ult on her, she always give it to Sampo.
same problem with tingyun. im auto battle farming in SU i have DOT team with kafka, tingyun, fu xuan + debuffer, when i put pela tingyun always E and ult pela, when SW tingyun will E kafka and ult SW. cant utilize defense shred characters tingyun always buff pela and SW in DOT team. now i change to remembrance run with jingliu with pela for now without tingyun, such a waste if tingyun can buff correct hypercarry in auto battle it would be great.
I think maybe Tingyun ai targets highest hp/def, since she seems to always target the tanks. Maybe it focuses on the survivability of the team and thought blade was a tank
Lol I just found your channel, the voice is hilarious. I can't tell if you're trying to do DA VIET-NAH-MEH accent or the canto one. Subbed. love the vid
Hoyo is a company that can't figure out how to code artifact load outs for YEARS. How can you expect them to actually write code to auto battle correctly?
@@princessochka3690 Same, I literally have to walk away from the computer. Hoyo could put in artifact/relic loadouts with the snap of a finger, they don't want to because resin/trailblaze power refreshes is a major source of income so they want you to farm for every character.
I really do think they could give us a auto battle setting feature where we can pick what skills to use and its condition or something. would be super nice
I enjoy that you keep your 5-Stars at a relatable level. Some units at E2 aren’t major deals, but then others are crazy (DHIL & Jingliu). Personally, I’d be fine with you snagging E1s on your limited banner characters if you wanted them.
auto-battle can be wack sometimes, I've had battles where my Bronya advances Luocha instead of Seele, but every time that happened it was in SU so blessings probably messed with something.
in previous patches, like when blade was released, all harmony characters ignored him. The Mihoyo change logic, i guess they just buffed blade priority.
I have a similar issue with my Tingyun actually. My Calyx Team consists of Himeko, Jing Yuan, Ting and Fu. Ting will always E Himeko and then Ultimate on Jing Yuan. I have a feeling it actually has to do with the Damage% on each Unit as priority. I'll test it tomorrow by swapping out their lightcones to see what happens
I thought Tingyun prioritizes the character who's closest to their ultimate percentage-wise. Maybe because they're all 50%, Tingyun prioritizes the leftmost character just like March's eidolon shield.
That's what I thought as well. If you aren't using auto, when you go to use her ult the target is not always on the dosa few turns in to the battle. It will sometimes randomly target my Fu Xuan or Luocha when they are much closer to having their ults than whatever DPS I am running.
In this case that both of them have the same percentage I think she prioritize the dps with the lower energy cost, that is Blade (130) over Dan IL (140) and Jingliu (140)
@@ciofurinone4225This theory doesn't really work since in the video, Tingyun would still target Blade even though Serval has 100 energy cost and Blade has 130
8:56 I been running Jing Yuan, Blade, Fu Xuan and Tingyun as my auto farm team and she still only uses her ultimate on Blade. Edit: Do whatever it takes to get E6 Guinaifen Code 💳
I had on one of my accounts blade and clara on the same team with tingyun and tingyun only buffs my blade but ults only clara. I have no clue what the AI is doing
The quantum set even without quantum weakness is very close to the ice set, especially with more -def or ignore def source (pela, SW, LC) due to Jingliu's extraordinary high crit damage. 25% would be diluted more so than other characters, while 10% def ignore won't be diluted. Also a lot of people already farmed this set for Seele so it's ready.
Fun Fact: It isn't just Tingyun AI that prioritizes Blade when using ult now Bronya skill also prioritizes Blade even when using DHIL and Seele in the same team.
a few patches ago my tingyun kept ulting my silverwolf in team with sampo kafka... it was driving me mad too, kafka and sampo lvl 90 with traces 10 10 10 and good equip, my sw lvl 70 traces 8 6 6 with some purple artifacts too... patches before that she kept ulting fire MC or blessing natasha... THEN a day, after a patch, she started buffing kafka. I think they keep making her better with time, changing priorities or something but they forget of new characters on release... try again in a couple of weeks XD
I run what i like to call a lazy team which is clara blade tingyun and healer and my tingyun ults clara 90% of the time but her first ult is always on clara so idk what's up
About tingyun buff, from my experience, I think because her ult gives characters energy, it's designed to target the character with the highest energy which isn't completely filled yet, it always tries to fill out 1 ult, doesn't matter who, dps support or anything; so yeah, unfortunately it's a bit unreliable on auto.
I think her ult prioritizes the one to whom she can give more energy and the one who will become closer to the ultimate because of this at the same time
What's your build? I have him E0S1 but I also have pretty good relics on him, he 2-cycles first half of MOC 10. I 0 cycled with Jingliu xD He's pretty good, dont' buy into the powercreep FOMO.
@@blasianking4827 I saw the ppl doing 0 cycle with e0s1 JY so I also tried hard, but couldn't do it. Stuck at 1 cycle with lacking a bit more dmg (even with vulnerability pigs). But yeah JL is easy 0 cycle at e0s0 using the same 4pc quantum set that JY was using.
Yeah, Blade is the culprit. I dont have blade, but usually for farming i lend a e6 blade from friendlist, ting always buff him. Now this friend change into e6 Jingliu, and now ting buff my DHil.
I think Tingyun just doesnt buff the ally with her ult if they have the skill from her active on them.. So try to use her skill on someone else and see if she will use her ult on Jingliu
Is the battle pass option recommended on her if it’s available? “I have all the 4 star destruction lightcones” so do I use it on her or others are better ?
They should make something like when you place your main dps first on the team order, the harmony class should always buff that character. like a priority system for the AI
sadly I don't have a proper ice set, so just place holder with some of my best sub-stats, but got her to 135 SPD 2.6k ATK 43.1 Crit rate 201.9 Crit dmg and with her LC, she is shredding MoC 10 apart with Bronya/Tingyun/Loucha since i'm still in the process of building Pela worth it
Tingyun only buffing blade is a foreshadowing from hoyo. It's for lore reasons 😅
Yeah she likes blade, he wants to die and she's secretly the preservation aeon cause you can have 3 tanks and she'll still get aggro'd.
who knows honestly
@@ExiledVessel no it means Phantylia will turn him into a voidranger
blade does resembles nanook so its natural for phyntilia to buff him?
@@sus6221no this is Patrick.
the idle thing actually was the best thing in the guide :D
doesn't work for me for some reasons
nvm didn't realise doing it fast was important x)
Theory:
Tingyun's ult prioritizes Blade because he's also suicidal
I wonder if Tingyun AI is calculating based on the Base Stat of the character's ultimate damage perimeters. If that's the case, since Blade has Attack + HP and HP Lost in battle will always be targeted because his base perimeters will be insanely high. A test will be to make Blade's stats so his HP and Attacks is less than 4K Attack of Jingliu and see if that would work.
I genuinely think it's cuz blade hes hp and he benefits from dmg%, so she correctly gives atk to other dps, but distributes dmg% to blade as if to balance buffing
But so does jinlui 😂
@@crowing3886 well yea, everyone has hp, but Blade has more
Nope, they just fucked up blades coding. Back in patch 1.2 bronya would buff luocha instead of blade, they then "fixed" it by prioritizing blade instead lol which for some reason affected every dps.
@@SolarionEXnice work hoyo staf
Buffing luocha for infinite sp hacks 🤯
“Destruction is like doing everything”
Nanook: that’s what you get if you join my fansclub 💪
Maybe implications on how strong Nanook is compared to other Aeons
So this is apparently a thing. Its been happening to Bronya's Skill targetting as well.
Zero relic equipped Blade vs Fully equipped JL in maniac mode. Blade still gets buffed by Bronya.
maybe cuz he's male and bronya/tingyun is thirsty
@@minhtinh1211 ?????????????? huh?
They just fucked up blades coding. Back in patch 1.2 bronya would buff luocha instead of blade, they then "fixed" it by prioritizing blade instead lol which for some reason affected every dps.
maybe its wind priority, my friend tingyun always ulting on sampo instead of kafka on auto battle
From my experience Tingyun ults on the ally that get the most usage out of the energy gain, or rather the ally that would be the closest to getting their ult after getting her 50 energy. Unfortunately that's often not what you want on auto
When it comes to Tingyun auto-battle, the same situation happens when Kafka and Sampo are on the same team. Tingyun uses her Skill on Kafka but refuses to use the Ult on her, she always give it to Sampo.
Ehh no, She always target her skill and ulti to my kafka, my kafka atk is 4,4k and sampo is 2,9k
@@Lazuardyeehhh no.
Your a lucky case.
If Sampo has no ultimate she will always give it to Sampo.
She prioritizes lowest charge
This is very relatable
same problem with tingyun. im auto battle farming in SU i have DOT team with kafka, tingyun, fu xuan + debuffer, when i put pela tingyun always E and ult pela, when SW tingyun will E kafka and ult SW. cant utilize defense shred characters tingyun always buff pela and SW in DOT team. now i change to remembrance run with jingliu with pela for now without tingyun, such a waste if tingyun can buff correct hypercarry in auto battle it would be great.
@@Kspice9000nahhhh thts BS. She literally ulted my Sampo with 100% energy 😂😂😂
I think maybe Tingyun ai targets highest hp/def, since she seems to always target the tanks. Maybe it focuses on the survivability of the team and thought blade was a tank
I knew this chibi okcode was made for a big reason
TO MAKE OWLBERT ASK HIM INSTEAD OF PEOPLE WHO DOESN'T KNOW HOW TO PLAY HER
Well he's Hoyo's staff, what do you expect?
Change title to How not to auto battle Tigyun
Lol I just found your channel, the voice is hilarious. I can't tell if you're trying to do DA VIET-NAH-MEH accent or the canto one. Subbed. love the vid
I’m pretty sure ting ting ult buff the person with most hp cuz she always buff my Clara over selee and in the vid, ur Clara hp < jing Liu < blade
Hoyo is a company that can't figure out how to code artifact load outs for YEARS. How can you expect them to actually write code to auto battle correctly?
But they update auto battle logic every version
@@AiisakaTaiiga And it is still horrible; whenever i watch autobattle- i want to break my monitor
@@princessochka3690 Same, I literally have to walk away from the computer. Hoyo could put in artifact/relic loadouts with the snap of a finger, they don't want to because resin/trailblaze power refreshes is a major source of income so they want you to farm for every character.
Cause it's unnecessary
they have on Honkai 3rd. They just doesn't want to right now on other game.
Tingyun does it because blade scales of hp so the damage boost on ultimate actually helps him
Tingyun - E6 S5 Blade main confirmed
I really do think they could give us a auto battle setting feature where we can pick what skills to use and its condition or something. would be super nice
YES. Just like dragon age 2 AI setting
no, they gonna sell characters that are abit lower celling dps but more frendly auto battle to address this
last 4 minutes is just blade buff showcase which is hilarious
I enjoy that you keep your 5-Stars at a relatable level. Some units at E2 aren’t major deals, but then others are crazy (DHIL & Jingliu). Personally, I’d be fine with you snagging E1s on your limited banner characters if you wanted them.
0:30 I needed this info.
Best guide ever.
auto-battle can be wack sometimes, I've had battles where my Bronya advances Luocha instead of Seele, but every time that happened it was in SU so blessings probably messed with something.
in previous patches, like when blade was released, all harmony characters ignored him. The Mihoyo change logic, i guess they just buffed blade priority.
Tingyun just knows Blade is best boy.
Maybe cuz Blade gets bigger % gain from %bonus or something idfk
"destruction is like doing everyt"
MC: wait till i get harmony
I also can't get Bronya to prioritize advancing forward Jingliu over Blade. Extremely frustrating.
Tectone needs to see the most important jingliu tip 😂😂😂
Very funny video my man. It was enjoyable to watch all the meme edits during guide
In kafka team also she aways ult sampo idk why it's wind priority lol🤣🤣
I wish they made a setting where you could turn off her eyepatch without bug as long as you want
Hey Code, I think if using Topaz gives you the same "thing" like how you use Yoimiya in Genshin, feel free to swipe like there's no tomorrow :D
So it's not just me having this weird auto tingyun that ALWAYS buff blade huh
Seem like blade is hyv employees favorite then
Didn't Tingyun specifically have her AI adjusted when Blade came out because she was prioritizing supports like Luocha?
I have a similar issue with my Tingyun actually. My Calyx Team consists of Himeko, Jing Yuan, Ting and Fu. Ting will always E Himeko and then Ultimate on Jing Yuan. I have a feeling it actually has to do with the Damage% on each Unit as priority. I'll test it tomorrow by swapping out their lightcones to see what happens
Tingyun auto battle ai ults the character who is nearest to their full energy bar, but isn't full
Or if that is not it, then I think it's something related to energy
SHE IS JUST ADDICTED TO BLADE!
I thought Tingyun prioritizes the character who's closest to their ultimate percentage-wise. Maybe because they're all 50%, Tingyun prioritizes the leftmost character just like March's eidolon shield.
That's what I thought as well. If you aren't using auto, when you go to use her ult the target is not always on the dosa few turns in to the battle. It will sometimes randomly target my Fu Xuan or Luocha when they are much closer to having their ults than whatever DPS I am running.
In this case that both of them have the same percentage I think she prioritize the dps with the lower energy cost, that is Blade (130) over Dan IL (140) and Jingliu (140)
@@ciofurinone4225This theory doesn't really work since in the video, Tingyun would still target Blade even though Serval has 100 energy cost and Blade has 130
When i auto with TY in my dot team she always ULT Sampo (Kafka’s stat is wayyy higher than that of Sampo), idk she might has a thing for Wind dps
kafka must be the opposite of blade then, because my tingyun never ults kafka when any other dps is present
Its the same with Bronya, I can not figure it out.
My ting just started buffing jingliu today. Idk what changed but she won't ult blade anymore.
Did you try to see if Ting Yun buff the one whose ULT charge is closest to 100%
Just another casula Srar Derail gameplay
8:56 I been running Jing Yuan, Blade, Fu Xuan and Tingyun as my auto farm team and she still only uses her ultimate on Blade.
Edit: Do whatever it takes to get E6 Guinaifen Code 💳
I can’t tell if this is a Tingyun or Blade showcase
I had on one of my accounts blade and clara on the same team with tingyun and tingyun only buffs my blade but ults only clara. I have no clue what the AI is doing
They may still count the highest stats, the problem is, they compare max HP blade with max ATK other, which always return Blade.
Tingyun’s ult priority characters whose almost have their ult i think
The quantum set even without quantum weakness is very close to the ice set, especially with more -def or ignore def source (pela, SW, LC) due to Jingliu's extraordinary high crit damage. 25% would be diluted more so than other characters, while 10% def ignore won't be diluted.
Also a lot of people already farmed this set for Seele so it's ready.
also if you run max defense shread with ice set it does more dmg than quantum. ( pela + sw, need to see the LC needs).
Tingyun also sometimes priorities Bronya for some reason with her Ult.
its beginning to be another lore inspired moment after Tingyun's mysterious high chance of getting attacked.
try put the one to get tingyuan buffs on the most right side of the team position, my jingyuan always get buffed with this guide.
The dead girl loves the man who can not die, simple as that 😂
Fun Fact: It isn't just Tingyun AI that prioritizes Blade when using ult now Bronya skill also prioritizes Blade even when using DHIL and Seele in the same team.
Auto just use tingyun ultimate to fill anyone with lowest energy needed to get ultimate up
When im running jingliu blade bronya. Bronya uses skill on blade too.
Blade got that Unlimited Rizz works so Ting yun always prioritize Him😎🌸
Have you tried seeing if Tingyun still ults Blade without relics equipped?
"What happened to Destruction path?" Easily, powercreep 😆
Such a good person gave me the best tip in first in first min thanku mr code
Whats the game with the Big Smoke reference
a few patches ago my tingyun kept ulting my silverwolf in team with sampo kafka... it was driving me mad too, kafka and sampo lvl 90 with traces 10 10 10 and good equip, my sw lvl 70 traces 8 6 6 with some purple artifacts too...
patches before that she kept ulting fire MC or blessing natasha...
THEN a day, after a patch, she started buffing kafka.
I think they keep making her better with time, changing priorities or something but they forget of new characters on release... try again in a couple of weeks XD
Your blade is being recognized as the strongest probably
Between kafka and sw my tingyun buff sw. Between kafka and sampo she buff sampo. Tingyun AI is a mystery
I run what i like to call a lazy team which is clara blade tingyun and healer and my tingyun ults clara 90% of the time but her first ult is always on clara so idk what's up
About tingyun buff, from my experience, I think because her ult gives characters energy, it's designed to target the character with the highest energy which isn't completely filled yet, it always tries to fill out 1 ult, doesn't matter who, dps support or anything; so yeah, unfortunately it's a bit unreliable on auto.
Wrong
I think her ult prioritizes the one to whom she can give more energy and the one who will become closer to the ultimate because of this at the same time
every day, i suffer for pulling jing yuan.. WHY I DID IT WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
Be honest, the sole reason you pulled on that banner is cause of Tingyun.
@@xenoemblem7this is the cope i need after pulling jing yuan, yep definitely for tingyun and tingyun only.
Hes pretty so its worth it
What's your build?
I have him E0S1 but I also have pretty good relics on him, he 2-cycles first half of MOC 10. I 0 cycled with Jingliu xD
He's pretty good, dont' buy into the powercreep FOMO.
@@blasianking4827 I saw the ppl doing 0 cycle with e0s1 JY so I also tried hard, but couldn't do it.
Stuck at 1 cycle with lacking a bit more dmg (even with vulnerability pigs).
But yeah JL is easy 0 cycle at e0s0 using the same 4pc quantum set that JY was using.
Yeah, Blade is the culprit.
I dont have blade, but usually for farming i lend a e6 blade from friendlist, ting always buff him. Now this friend change into e6 Jingliu, and now ting buff my DHil.
I think Tingyun just doesnt buff the ally with her ult if they have the skill from her active on them.. So try to use her skill on someone else and see if she will use her ult on Jingliu
thank you very muxh for the jing liu eye patch tip it really helps
Regarding tingyun i have seen her use ult on sampo rather than kafka.
At this point i think it might be even element based
We also disregarded the capability for off-set pieces in Genshin.
I tried auto battle with Jing Liu with Blade, Luocha and Bronya. Jing Liu would use her ult outside of the enhanced state. 😩 They need to fix that.
Is the battle pass option recommended on her if it’s available? “I have all the 4 star destruction lightcones” so do I use it on her or others are better ?
idk how ppl feel safe playing 1 survival unit - I always run 2 because I'm like suuuuper afraid of dying
Did you try taking all Blades relics off to see if it has to do with stats?
Low key this just became a tingyun rant
They should make something like when you place your main dps first on the team order, the harmony class should always buff that character. like a priority system for the AI
sadly I don't have a proper ice set, so just place holder with some of my best sub-stats, but got her to
135 SPD
2.6k ATK
43.1 Crit rate
201.9 Crit dmg
and with her LC, she is shredding MoC 10 apart with Bronya/Tingyun/Loucha since i'm still in the process of building Pela
worth it
This turned into a Tingyun maldfest. 😂
What’s your tingyun build?
Also if you can test it when I have Serval and seele on my team tingyun will buff serval
If she prioritizes Blade and Gepard maybe it's HP or DEF or something.
tingyun suckin on that Blade stick
Why is the prime phone off I like it
Nanook is cooking like crazy with these Destruction character 😂
Blade priority is real, during one of my autobattle with a team of lynx, blade, bronya, and seele, bronya uses skill on blade.
Confirmed that Tingyun is a Blade simp.
Maybe because if run double DPS, Tingyun would be separate her buff to both of them, so if A get atk buff then B get ult buff. vice versa
Tingyun ult priority, the second damage dealer... Even if that is silverwolf
Try Sampo and Blade. lmao when i do sampo, kafka, tingyun, and bailu. lmao she always uses ult on sampo but skill on my kafka. 😂
My tingyun ults my sampo when i have kafka in the same team as them
Code might be the only person to pronounce her stacks lmao everyone else doesn’t even try
tingyun ults the one with the highest energy percent
I came here to listen to Mr. Code.
Got out with a Big Smoke easter egg in Cyberpunk.
Tingyun does it always with Blade in my game too
Can't wait for mihoyo create story base on tingyu and blade relationship