13:19 Devin sings on Planet of the Apes "while we all have lots of bands who influence still, we all rip off meshugga". Devin needs to see this segment so he knows, that it also worked the other way around ;)
Fuck what a good interview! I like the energy that Tomas transmits. He seems like a very humble guy. And the ironic tone of the interview makes it all more surreal and fun. Thanks!
This is absolutely brilliant Philipp. I sincerely hope you can do more of these. Sick a great concept, and Thomas is a super good sport for being the first. Well done.
Hearing Thomas say that SYL "is one of the best metal bands that ever existed, man" is music to my ears. 100% agree. Wish Dev would get the band back togedder for an encore album!
I'm glad Devin has started to play some SYL on his live shows again. I know their albums are fueled with rage and he doesn't really like reminiscing on that period of his life but maybe he can look back at the good times too and the Great music that was born through his turmoil. I love SYL too but I don't think they'll ever record something again
@@thewildhealer541 Yeah, I've heard him say those things, as well. Sad for us as consumers of their brilliant efforts! Totally understand the sentiment. Songs are a journey and vibe revisitation into who you were when you wrote them, and he doesn't want to retread that ground. Lot of angst, rage, and gorgeous fury :) I'd settle for a reunion tour playing 20 song sets! ;)
Alex 'The Brutalizer' Marquez! One of my favorite drummers too! That Solstice album rips! His work in Malevolent Creation, Demolition Hammer and Resurrection is legendary too!
Just getting into this newest episode....SOLSTICE?!?!? Alex Marquez...Malevolent Creation....I was totally "Transmogrified"....can't wait to delve further!!! 😈 🤘
Thanks for the very good content! The Sadist drummer who recorded Crust is Oinos , if you check the band Thy Nature you will hear some great stuff from the early 90s, way before polyrhythms became cool 😊
Tribe was peak Tommy/Sadist. NOTHING sounds like Tribe, it's timeless. Crust was ok, had its moments but was meh...Saw them live in Italy in the smallest club just before Crust came out, one of the first gigs with the Crust line-up. To this day, probably the coolest, most inspiring and energetic gig I've been to. Tribe's songs were just the highlight of the set-list. And Desert Divinities.
@@AncientEvil80 Oh I know Tribe, don't get me wrong. It's a fantastic album. What I'm trying to say is that I think Crust is underrated, it's a super weird and dark album, and I love weird and dark. Would have loved to see them back then!
Moin ! ich hatte genau den selben Moment und Platte. Solstice waren mein Teil meiner Auswahl für Parties und zuhause. Um genau zu sein, "ICH ZAHL NIHCT MEHR": Solstice, Hexx BIRDS OF PREY (listened to the most love that kind of trash prog, unique till today), Immortal, Demolition Hammer, Hypocrisy, and also heavy rotating, of course, what a songbuildup always: SINISTER (if i forgot a good track sorry) OK EDIT: Pungent Stench ! I was 10 years old and i only got this cd because i borrowed some older kids my first cd i ever bought: Morgoth Odium and the party they brought that to was in a place where you have to nail things on the floor or they will be stolen (if you were new to the bunch. or not "that place" enough), so i got compensated with BELIAL (finnish death metal still listen to it) and ICH ZAHL NIHCT MEHR, which in the internet free world of 1994 was a good way to get an overview over other styles you might like + the booklet was stuffed with Band logoes and the newest releases in extreme metal, almost a 101 of death metal at this time, seconds before death metal will "die". Yet the Odium was handpicked in a cd battle in the store "against" morbid angel covenant, which wasnt as "earcandy" for my young ears, as the Odium and almost flat sounding, the "ear candy" bit would be the addition "depressive" in todays world i guess, so it was missed anyway.
I've seen a million people claim "This band sounds like Meshuggah" about a million different bands, this is the first time I actually agree. Thanks for introducing me to Coprofago!
Oh wow! I just saw Jason Avery from Monstrosity a little while back coming out of a Publix in Tampa. He worked at Mean Machine Tattoo shop with the dude that inked me (RIP) back around 2001-02. He’s a Super nice guy 🤟😁🤘 Hope he sees this video.
Hey Philip! Thanks to you and Haake for the awesome interview session! I asked a couple years back but I gotta ask again, u wouldn't happen to have anymore t-shirts come in from drumtalk? Thanks again!!
howdy! thanksalot for the comment... well, still no drumtalk shirts in the pipeline 'cause I simply cannot imagine how anyone out there (myself inlcuded and I actually own one!) would wear such a thing -- except for you obviously 😊 😊😊 But in case I might ever have some extra money lying around one day I promise I'll think about it
Glad to see Tomas reaction to Coprofago . There is another Chilean band you might wanna check if you dig Coprofago you can check "octopus" which is also in a similar branch of prog/metal. Coprofago never denied their Meshuggah influence. You can see members of coprofago covering one of my fav Meshuggah songs here:th-cam.com/video/dbqayK82aW0/w-d-xo.html
i would even go as far as saying that solstice thanks to their technical playing, mid cut, level of distortion but clarity of sound.. almost in isolation of meshuggah created a blue print for the famous destroy erase sound/flair. 7:49
@@filheim Marquez's doublebass speed is almost identical in speed and execution to the "brakedown" part on song one on DEI.. that weird speed of the guitars when you barely realize how the phrasing is because its masked by the speed aso. and yes, i think so too but its a sound very specifically engineered to suit the shuggs style.. a mid heavy sound with reverb on the drums would make the songs wishy washy imo
Have you tried to get Chris Adler on drum talk? I really do think you'd get an interesting insight perspective of deep roots as opposed to of what we know how he became to me Now with Firstborne but still
hey hey, sure thing I did, a couple of times to be exact with both LOG & Megadeth. But unfortunately it didn't happen back then. Same with Vinnie Paul and a bunch of other drummers....
If you search for Coprofago's video for Chaos ( th-cam.com/video/yuPGW5LigH4/w-d-xo.html ) 17 years ago there is a comment posted by MESHUGGAH themselves (or their youtube community manager, but probably was Marten or Jens ahahaha) that says " you guys sound *NOTHING* like meshuggah. jeez....lål" which it was a clear compliment and wholesome comment to drop on a very underground amazing chilean band. Some people missed the entire joke and took it as an offense, which clearly highlights how unfamiliar they are with Meshuggah's entire catalog or at that point in time, their NOTHING album.
18:00 considering changing our name to The Schizophrenics. BTW here’s the whole schizophrenic track: th-cam.com/video/vYuATCid4Rk/w-d-xo.htmlsi=EGPHPAn5-Riw6epV
It always fascinating to me how people talk about Chaosphere. That album and Nothing changed my life, and then I bought everything that Meshuggah has. It's never about the raw sound - with Chaosphere, the entire album (with the exception of Internal Machinery of Torture) is in 4, and the way that they use rhythms on that album has never been topped - maybe by Obzen, but certainly not from another band. Chaosphere is incredible, and it's a shame that they won't play anything from that album anymore, but they have nothing to prove at this point. None of their albums suck. Not one.
@@drumtalkofficial It means you kinda look like Johnny Depp hahaha! Well, more like 50% Depp and 50% short-haired Peter Tagtgren. Ask your friends if you don't believe me :D Nice video!!!
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Something about the fact that Tomas refers to the Swedish chef as just “the muppet show chef” is…subtly hilarious.
That was hilarious.
That is like saying someone referring to meatballs in Sweden as "Swedish meatballs"... By the way we don't have "Swedish Fish" either.
@@TheNobleAthelstane True, they are just called "Fish" here lol.
Yes, its always a good day when i see the words Drum Talk and Tomas Haake together.
Would be nice if we had a vocal talk and Jens
Absolutely!
& more dick interviews!
Of course, he built that perfect table. No other human being could have made such a masterpiece of carpentry
lowkey brilliant comment
13:19 Devin sings on Planet of the Apes "while we all have lots of bands who influence still, we all rip off meshugga". Devin needs to see this segment so he knows, that it also worked the other way around ;)
amazing right, thought of that immediately too! :)
Fuck what a good interview! I like the energy that Tomas transmits. He seems like a very humble guy. And the ironic tone of the interview makes it all more surreal and fun. Thanks!
thanks buddy! yeah, not too cerial
Delightful. Only the most distinguished of apes
A Swedish born man who speaks perfect English with perfect dialect and plays amazing technical drums. What a smart boy.
30 minutes of pure joy, thanks for that marvelous conversation! Tomas' sense of humour is something else :D
His English is impeccable. Incredible drummer. Saw Meshuggah a few months ago. Always awesome.
And then Devin writes lyrics like " We all rip off meshuggah " :D It's an orgy of so much talent all these lads!!!!
This is absolutely brilliant Philipp. I sincerely hope you can do more of these. Sick a great concept, and Thomas is a super good sport for being the first. Well done.
thank you so much! But I doubt I will repeat this format -- it was a sh*tload of work to make this video
@drumtalkofficial I do not doubt it. Deepest thanks for making the effort to create this.
@@drumtalkofficial…but worth it. The effort paid off.
Hearing Thomas say that SYL "is one of the best metal bands that ever existed, man" is music to my ears. 100% agree.
Wish Dev would get the band back togedder for an encore album!
I'm glad Devin has started to play some SYL on his live shows again. I know their albums are fueled with rage and he doesn't really like reminiscing on that period of his life but maybe he can look back at the good times too and the Great music that was born through his turmoil. I love SYL too but I don't think they'll ever record something again
@@thewildhealer541 Yeah, I've heard him say those things, as well. Sad for us as consumers of their brilliant efforts! Totally understand the sentiment. Songs are a journey and vibe revisitation into who you were when you wrote them, and he doesn't want to retread that ground. Lot of angst, rage, and gorgeous fury :) I'd settle for a reunion tour playing 20 song sets! ;)
that ship has sailed. townsend' smusic isn't the same since he is "well". completely lost that edge that made him so special
@hazardeur I'm happy he's in a better place as a person but I completely agree regarding his music
Alex 'The Brutalizer' Marquez! One of my favorite drummers too! That Solstice album rips! His work in Malevolent Creation, Demolition Hammer and Resurrection is legendary too!
Tomas showed great patience and humor with this awkward situation.
im sure tomas enjoyed this twice as much just because of the comfort pillow
He's just hiding how happy he really is.... 😇
@@drumtalkofficial dude that was next level inside joke...
@@chrispap2393 inside... a pillow?
Just getting into this newest episode....SOLSTICE?!?!? Alex Marquez...Malevolent Creation....I was totally "Transmogrified"....can't wait to delve further!!! 😈 🤘
didn't expect to see Tomas reacting to Solstice today
My new life motto: "Ape Adjacent."
mosh pit ethos
Tomas talking about Coprofago CHILE 🇨🇱🇨🇱🇨🇱
momento epico
Mega orgulloso aguante coprofago, ocutupus, all tomorrows y todo el metal chileneno 🙌🇨🇱
Thanks for the very good content! The Sadist drummer who recorded Crust is Oinos , if you check the band Thy Nature you will hear some great stuff from the early 90s, way before polyrhythms became cool 😊
Oh wow. And through Thy Nature I just found Will'o'Wisp, one of his newer bands apparently. That's insane! Thanks for the pointer!
Best episode yet!
Oh my god, Sadist - Crust is such an awesome and underrated album! Also great get together, I loved it!
always loved that record from the first time I pressed PLAY 💥
Tribe was peak Tommy/Sadist. NOTHING sounds like Tribe, it's timeless. Crust was ok, had its moments but was meh...Saw them live in Italy in the smallest club just before Crust came out, one of the first gigs with the Crust line-up. To this day, probably the coolest, most inspiring and energetic gig I've been to. Tribe's songs were just the highlight of the set-list. And Desert Divinities.
@@AncientEvil80 Oh I know Tribe, don't get me wrong. It's a fantastic album. What I'm trying to say is that I think Crust is underrated, it's a super weird and dark album, and I love weird and dark. Would have loved to see them back then!
Tomas reminded me to buy his signature WINCENT Meshuggah sticks.. !!! Fun video!
I have both colors of his drum key.
Thomas is a quintessential muted Muppet Show chef!
Wow I'm gonna go listen to that Solstice record!
Interesting tracks played. Solstice reminds me of Do Not Spit by Damaged. Tomas and Gene Hoglan both Jedi Masters of metal drumming 🤘
Legend. Would love to hear him react to Martyr.
Moin ! ich hatte genau den selben Moment und Platte. Solstice waren mein Teil meiner Auswahl für Parties und zuhause. Um genau zu sein, "ICH ZAHL NIHCT MEHR": Solstice, Hexx BIRDS OF PREY (listened to the most love that kind of trash prog, unique till today), Immortal, Demolition Hammer, Hypocrisy, and also heavy rotating, of course, what a songbuildup always: SINISTER (if i forgot a good track sorry) OK EDIT: Pungent Stench !
I was 10 years old and i only got this cd because i borrowed some older kids my first cd i ever bought: Morgoth Odium and the party they brought that to was in a place where you have to nail things on the floor or they will be stolen (if you were new to the bunch. or not "that place" enough), so i got compensated with BELIAL (finnish death metal still listen to it) and ICH ZAHL NIHCT MEHR, which in the internet free world of 1994 was a good way to get an overview over other styles you might like + the booklet was stuffed with Band logoes and the newest releases in extreme metal, almost a 101 of death metal at this time, seconds before death metal will "die".
Yet the Odium was handpicked in a cd battle in the store "against" morbid angel covenant, which wasnt as "earcandy" for my young ears, as the Odium and almost flat sounding, the "ear candy" bit would be the addition "depressive" in todays world i guess, so it was missed anyway.
www.discogs.com/de/release/865914-Various-Ich-Zahl-Nicht-Mehr-Heavy-Vol-2
Would be cool to see Tomas show some of his fave songs & talk through 'em!
well, my initial idea was called "You show me yours and I'll show you mine" but he'd rather have it this way. Scarve was his idea though, wasn't it?
@@drumtalkofficial hahaha I like that 🤣 True!
I've seen a million people claim "This band sounds like Meshuggah" about a million different bands, this is the first time I actually agree. Thanks for introducing me to Coprofago!
they still didn't .....the beat as such awas way too easily comprehendable for meshuggah. that thing would never be on a meshuggah record
Watching him listen to music with no facial expression is somehow fascinating..... Like what does music sound like to him?
I loved the fact that Thomas recognizes the swagger Vinnie Paul had. As much as I love Charlie Benante, his swagger is very different from VP's
We must protect this dude
"if you actually did rape me we're gonna have to have a discussion about that" i swear Tomas is lowkey hilarious
LoWkEy
Oh wow! I just saw Jason Avery from Monstrosity a little while back coming out of a Publix in Tampa. He worked at Mean Machine Tattoo shop with the dude that inked me (RIP) back around 2001-02. He’s a Super nice guy 🤟😁🤘
Hope he sees this video.
"by the band Setlist...I love Setlist, they're great" lmao!
loved it!
I was hoping for a make-out session. Regardless, this was awesome and fun to watch ❤
We totally did make-out but that shit gear wasn't recording
I saw Tomas and had to watch, I’m not a drummer, but hugely respect great Drummers.
RIP Sean Reinert. Death - Human is the pinnacle of that Florida sound imo
Hey Philip! Thanks to you and Haake for the awesome interview session! I asked a couple years back but I gotta ask again, u wouldn't happen to have anymore t-shirts come in from drumtalk? Thanks again!!
howdy! thanksalot for the comment... well, still no drumtalk shirts in the pipeline 'cause I simply cannot imagine how anyone out there (myself inlcuded and I actually own one!) would wear such a thing -- except for you obviously 😊 😊😊
But in case I might ever have some extra money lying around one day I promise I'll think about it
@@drumtalkofficial Thanks for the reply Philip! Perfect, that's all I ask for, have a great day!!🙏
Yes Strapping! Shit Storm….my goodness. Insane!
Imagine being SYL members, hearing you likely somehow influenced and inspired Meshuggah.
Even his beer came right on the table
Man, so glad you talked about Coprofago and Scarve !!
Florida 90s metal scene is legendary
I prefer the 90s New York scene. Immolation, Incantation, Suffocation etc. The -tion scene.
17:19 tomas trying to remember if they did that someday in the past 😂😂
Sadist crust is a masterpiece. Scarve is amazing too.
LEGEND!!!
I love Coprofago for the very beginning
Vinnie poul
Gracias por haber estado
Siempre
En serio
Siempre
Glad to see Tomas reaction to Coprofago . There is another Chilean band you might wanna check if you dig Coprofago you can check "octopus" which is also in a similar branch of prog/metal. Coprofago never denied their Meshuggah influence. You can see members of coprofago covering one of my fav Meshuggah songs here:th-cam.com/video/dbqayK82aW0/w-d-xo.html
De hecho, Orozco fue “compañero de clases” de Haake, tuvieron de profe a Ågren al mismo tiempo 😅
i would even go as far as saying that solstice thanks to their technical playing, mid cut, level of distortion but clarity of sound.. almost in isolation of meshuggah created a blue print for the famous destroy erase sound/flair. 7:49
Destroy is the best sounding metal album of that time
@@filheim Marquez's doublebass speed is almost identical in speed and execution to the "brakedown" part on song one on DEI.. that weird speed of the guitars when you barely realize how the phrasing is because its masked by the speed aso. and yes, i think so too but its a sound very specifically engineered to suit the shuggs style.. a mid heavy sound with reverb on the drums would make the songs wishy washy imo
Just to mention Sadist was founded by Peso, the boss from Necrodeath another legend.
Great drummer
18:09 that short guitar thing sounds a lot like allan holdsworth inspired lick :)
that was a lot of fun
Killer chat
Coprofago are next level
I would love to see Hannes from Sabaton on here :)
The guitar sound at around 9:02 sounds quite Testament-y (somewhat muted behind the dialogue but it’s there).
trivial, but does tomas have a ski tan? genuinely curious lol
Have you tried to get Chris Adler on drum talk?
I really do think you'd get an interesting insight perspective of deep roots as opposed to of what we know how he became to me
Now with Firstborne but still
hey hey, sure thing I did, a couple of times to be exact with both LOG & Megadeth. But unfortunately it didn't happen back then. Same with Vinnie Paul and a bunch of other drummers....
@@drumtalkofficial I see, thanks for the response! I hope you get him on here someday. Huge fan of the channel, keep them coming!
If you search for Coprofago's video for Chaos ( th-cam.com/video/yuPGW5LigH4/w-d-xo.html ) 17 years ago there is a comment posted by MESHUGGAH themselves (or their youtube community manager, but probably was Marten or Jens ahahaha) that says " you guys sound *NOTHING* like meshuggah. jeez....lål" which it was a clear compliment and wholesome comment to drop on a very underground amazing chilean band. Some people missed the entire joke and took it as an offense, which clearly highlights how unfamiliar they are with Meshuggah's entire catalog or at that point in time, their NOTHING album.
Strapping Young Lad's CIty was 1997
That's a good table - he could have been a good carpenter.
17:54 the Spastic Ink shout out♥️
I got a suicidal tendencies-vibe from Solstice!
18:00 considering changing our name to The Schizophrenics. BTW here’s the whole schizophrenic track: th-cam.com/video/vYuATCid4Rk/w-d-xo.htmlsi=EGPHPAn5-Riw6epV
hahaha! hi there guys! thanks for stopping by and leaving a message 👊
Coprofago! 🤟🏻🇨🇱
11:18 🎵?
Prong - Prove You Wrong
Awesome!.
🍻 ❤
Ha ,cierto
Soy de Argentina
Caba
Ape called Jason... lmao
great !
"Dums" I want t shirt like this 😅
Coprofago is the most underrated band ever, glad to see some love for the band here
A good way to never be discovered is to have a dumb name. They nailed it.
23:06 someone show him Adler. Lol
It always fascinating to me how people talk about Chaosphere. That album and Nothing changed my life, and then I bought everything that Meshuggah has.
It's never about the raw sound - with Chaosphere, the entire album (with the exception of Internal Machinery of Torture) is in 4, and the way that they use rhythms on that album has never been topped - maybe by Obzen, but certainly not from another band. Chaosphere is incredible, and it's a shame that they won't play anything from that album anymore, but they have nothing to prove at this point. None of their albums suck. Not one.
👍👍😎🤘
Italian bands? How about Destrage! My favorite Italian band...so far
Hey! I'm j.son!
Coprofago🇨🇱
Pantera, death and cynic. Not bad.
Te cague alemán botón
Con el subtitulado de TH-cam
Un abrazo ,
Si estas por la zona háblame
Trabajo en una sala de ensayo para músicos
Gorilla has finally become deaf.
Drum Talk, hosted by german Johnny Depp.
to quote Tomas: "I don't even know what that means...."
@@drumtalkofficial It means you kinda look like Johnny Depp hahaha! Well, more like 50% Depp and 50% short-haired Peter Tagtgren. Ask your friends if you don't believe me :D Nice video!!!
Great video 🥁
Looks nothing like him.
God doesn't seem very comfortable with the host. Somebody knows something about that?
D.U.M.B.s = DRUMMING UNDERGROUND METAL BOSS’s
(‘s means IS)
Ex: McDonald’s, Wendy’s.
McDonald IS, Wendy IS
Aguante Coprofago ctmre
“I am a German, I am stupid”
Tell me you are a liar without….
Find a band called pigmaster
They are on soundcould I think
he looks so old. time to retire grandpa and make way for gen z who are so much better than everyone.
You're an idiot.