Positive words, but unfortunately they don't address the practical issues. AI can't stop us from creating art nor undercut the select few who are acclaimed and financially successful. It will affect those climbing the ladder out of the trenches, however. The ones working on routine art projects to pay the bills so they can also work on passion projects. The money will dry up, shrinking access to opportunities. Some will have to abandon art careers for anything else. Some won't get the steady projects that help them develop skills and establish a name for themselves. It's a future that guts the "middle class" of professional art even though we continue to value art in theory. Yes, keep making art for many reasons - but also stand up to the dangers that AI art poses to our collective cultural and financial well-being.
You can always go back to traditional art. AI isn't going to be using paintbrushes or molding clay any time soon. Of course it's a lot more difficult to make a living that way.
@@Erdbeerenserver There are people which murder little childs, compared to them, thieves are saint. What a great logic. Btw, it's called cherry picking.
@@whoisgliese Thanks, this channel is going to be about all things creative, the process of creating art and the philosophy behind it. And sharing our creative outflow. (Short films, audiobooks and the like.)
An important thing to mention is that AI art is not an AI It’s an algorithm just like TH-cam but instead of finding videos with tags and titles that are similar to what you watched before instead it finds images and collages and mashes them together so no it doesn’t actually learn or think it doesn’t know what it’s looking at it doesn’t know what art is it just mashes images together
More like you ask it to find a certain image in random noise, it knows what that image looks like, and it continues to refine the noisy image until it gets something like what you asked for. So if you ask it for a picture of the Mona Lisa eating a pickle, it takes everything it knows about the Mona Lisa, pickles, and eating, and eventually "finds" what you asked for. Or it may just decide that you want the words "Mona Lisa Eating a Pickle", and give you some text that sort of looks like those words.
Unfortunately, the investors will decide for us, just like everything else in life. But yeah don't stop fighting, I got into an art course right before this mess, I'll keep struggling
@@eula1194 So do I, but again, there is no such thing as "AI art", only AI-generated images, they do look very pretty, but they're not art, because they weren't made by a human.
the process is that digital artists can use AI inn thier everyday work. Digital artists uses various tools and techniques in thier process. Unless your idea of process iis only focus on time spent.
“Discovery” is a very proper term to define it because the way these models create “latent spaces” and cherry pick different zones to “photobash” an illustration. I don’t think I would ever use AI even as a toll because the way it is currently trained (unethically and illegally) also even if I were to train it with my works it would a sure recipe to stagnation
We have be optimistic, if everything is run by Ai in the future, what does that leave us? Creativity is important to us humans so even if Ai can do it, we the people will still desire to create art far into the future.
Ok There is still purpose to making art But, since it won't sell and will be easily replacable There is no sense, no value to completed pieces Corporations won't think about the soul of the art, but the outcome, and of course the price. And since it will achieve the same goal, but cheaper, there will be no human art in movies, games etc, and the whole point for making art will be to enjoy it as a process, or just for the sake of making *human* art. Great video, I just don't share the same hope
I understand, and I agree I may have been a little overly "Optimistic." But humans decide what is and isn't valuable, so I suppose that is where the "humanity" of art resides. What we give value to. And in a future where 90% of everything being artificially produced, people with real skill in art may be valued in there own way compared to the big corporate content produced. Who knows? Someone mentioned how there are so many free 3d human model generators (DAZ, Make Human, etc) yet many 3d artist still make their own characters from scratch. I think it is safe to say that their will always be artist making work traditionally.
It's kinda sad that artists will hesitate posting their stuff on the internet now when it feels so hostile. As if reposters weren't annoying enough, the ai parasites come crawling from their basements. Ai bros may be plagiarizing what's already out there now, but they can't get new art to steal from if artists just stop posting and just create in private like pre-internet or just keep small portfolios. Ai can't have enough data to plagiarize a style if an artist's portfolio is only a small selection of their art.
Given how AI struggles with drawing art with multiple people and/or arms and legs real artists have nothing to be afraid of. Or maybe I just suck at promting 😅
I died as artist before this AI thing, i just realized that: 1. i'm unable to achieve what i want (no, i have an adequate self-esteem, i just have a permanent mental disorders and injured brain, which causing me a learning disability, and this is a problem for me not only in art but in everything, i'm unable to live and sustain myself, i'm unable to adapt and be independent, i'm unable to survive in this world). 2. i stopped understanding why i wanted to be an artist and stopped enjoying it at all, i've destroyed myself by forcing to draw when i didn't wanted to (it was always like that, maybe i never wanted to be an artist and fooled myself into thinking that way just because i was surrounded by artists everywhere). 3. i've turned into pessimistic-nihilist and lose all my motivation to do anything in this life at all, i don't understand why do anything if i will die and everything would disappear, i don't want to spent my entire life only to lose everything one day and i stopped understand the value of art because of this as well as anything other in this life, i'm just suffering always now without the possibility to escape this existential hell and death, and our cursed and doomed world of humanity only making it worse.
As creative types, the matter of AI-generated "art" can distract us from the bigger picture (pun intended). While I see AI image generation as another digital tool for us to have at least a basic understanding of, as someone whose interest includes Computer Science/Information technology, my concerns with our race being threatened by machines have been validated in recent years by Computer scientists. Fourtentitely, creative technology, robotic defenses tech, and robotic manufacturing are separate...for now. A robot race will be superior to the human race, and I believe it would behoove us to put safeguards in place now, (though that should have been started in the 1970s). I believe that creativity, empathy, and basic senses of morality that transcend race, ethnicity, and religion are part of what make us human yet such traits make us inherently inefficient and weak (conversely, our emotions are also often a catalyst by which individuals or groups may simply be mean to others to being extremely cruel to others). And though the coming race will certainly take note of that, and will likely exploit that, I also believe that primitive striking, will not necessarily be to our benefit. It would be good for us creative types to work with folks who may or may not be creators, who are in other fields to build a brighter today and better tomorrow and ensure the supremacy of our species.
As someone with a disability as well, I just want to say you CAN survive in this world. It’s going to to be hard because nothing in life is easy. I used to have a mindset like yours and a part of me still does, but you can’t just give up. You can accomplish things in your lifetime, find out what makes you truly happy. You may feel like it’s pointless, but you only have one life. Take things one step at a time ❤️
@@okwhat6844 I can't, how i can, if i don't have motivation for anything? I was born like that, i were never interested in anything and just doesn't understand why i'm existing at all, i'm too weak for this world, and can exist only while being supported by my parents.
Most of the world has always been in a dystopian hell It's only in parts of the western world who escaped it, and a few other countries outside of the western world followed suit (like Japan) All that is happening is those places who had escaped are being pulled back in to the old ways Technology like this and ones that do people's jobs for them, will leave people lost and weak, without focus A.I will hurt a lot of people I dunno It's not going to happen like this guy pretends lol it will make mass art, the public will love it The artist will be just a personal hobby (if someone is wealthy enough to have a hobby in the future) So yeah I agree with you it's all bad But I wanted to add a lot ✌️
@@daz97 I agree that this is the most likely outcome. The video creator is approaching the subject like an artist would where he respects the process and soul imparted to the work. But your average consumer doesn't give a shit about that. They want the thing, right now, and it just has to be cheap and barely good enough. Art is going to be devalued, and art as a profession is going to face its greatest existential threat if this technology continues to improve at its current pace.
@@Jamazed Meh, there will be both: people who value art more than any time in their lives and people who won't care. Kinda just like there is now And if this AI thing actually works, then we'll all be super wealthy. A super productive society is super wealthy
"AI" or better to be called neural networks are like steroids during workout, they may give the wanted result, but you will not feel any accomplishment from hard work that you could make. Instead you will be objectively judged as a cheater and lose respect from others.
As a front end developer / graphic designer that's been in the tech Industry for the last 20 years I can see the writing on the wall. Just like the days of flash web development back in the mid 2000s it's time to pivot career paths again.
Creativity is ever changing, technology is ever changing. If you do not adapt to both you will be miserable. You have a CHOICE, you can be creative in any way you like. Those that choose to use AI have the same right. I really like vinyl records should I be mad because other formats made them obsolete? I can still listen to them it just takes some effort. Art is NEVER going to stop being art, it's just going to different. Do you really think that Picasso, Dali and Da Vinci would have fought to keep art the same forever?
You cannot resist change happening around you. In the late 70s and 80s, mechanical watchmakers were afraid they would lose their market with the advent of mass manufactured digital watches. Today, handmade mechanical watches are a luxury.
I disagree with the notion that we should not take issue with those who use AI to generate art for the purposes of reference or experimentation. The fact is, AI programs like Stable Diffusion and MidJourney save all art generated along with the prompts in order to get even better, and to train the next AI machine. Using these programs gives the companies that own them more power, while disempowering basically everyone else.
AI art will always have to be something similar to what you have seen before, because what it creates is nothing more than a seamless collage of other works. Now we'll have to imagine ideas that computers have not been able to cut out of existing works. Your imagination will have to work twice as hard to come up with something a computer has never compiled before.
Use AIas a tool for creativity. Every artist needs reference. If you don’t use reference you don’t care about representing a subject realistically. Want to draw a penguin riding a bear? See if you can get a reference from the AI. The tool isn’t bad. How you use it can be. Even the greats used devices to trace when doing murals.
Artists should be compensated if an AI uses their art to generate a "AI art". Or at least have a partial copyright claim to the generated image, which limits it to be sold or turned into a sticker business.
I'm no good at landscapes and backgrounds. and a lot of things. I don't get involved in any art communities due to my immaturity, behavior, and just gusto. even without AI, I just feel like giving up.(I don't understand how to do something good. or copy a photo) and i just don't have the gusto and attention span, and give up easy it dosen't make me happy. especialy because fame, popularity, and making money off of anything I could make is extremey important to me that is amusing,. DA has a non AI tag. seeing how they don't do much about tracing(you just can't sell prints) and uploading screen captures on their site.
Scraping the web enmass (also known as theft) to generate art does not make a computer into an artist. Nor does it make those who use it an artist. However, CGI and digital art have been around for decades, and are amazing tools. A computer and it's software is dumb and utterly UN-intelligent, it just processes data and crunches numbers. It cannot be INSPIRED without us mere humans lol! Just like Photoshop won't work without a creative human's input and work to put something down on the canvas. But for fuck's sake -- to anyone using "A.I." generated art -- at least learn to do some post processing to make it look good and remove the weird artifacting! I see this all over the place. Some of it looks cool at first, but looking closer, it's obvious and makes you look like an amateur.
well, I don't think that art is really for you if AI can make you feel demotivated. I mean Art, the real... I don't like that EN natives call images art, it's so outdated thinking. And combination words: AI art is to me absolute nonsense.
AI art is insulting. Capitalism needs to be stopped before it takes away arts meaning even more. We can make it trough, but we didn't need this dificulty
What is more important to you? Being an artist or producing better art? If you are concerned with the latter then you should welcome AI art. Its just another more efficient tool like photoshop, 3D models, manikins, cameras, paintbrushes etc. There is no reward for getting to an end point in a more inefficient manner than needed. AI art its not uniquely yours, if you know the prompt and seed true, but same argument could be made of photographing a viewpoint at a particular time of day and photographers can still claim copyright. As to AI programs steal our artwork there is no connection to any particular input, the process is transformational, and artists regularly use other pictures and input as their inspirations. With billions of inputs what share of the royalties could you reasonably expect to get anyhow? Going to art school does not give you extra rights over the rest of us. What scares the hell out of conventional artists is having to compete with the mass of hobbyist for who AI art has made good results more accessible. Not allowed, not in the Union. Do not be self-deluded by the idea that the process of making art, rather than the end result, has some transcendental mystic quality either. The person who can end up with the best pictures is the best artist.
So being a creative is childish, being marginalized as weird, being told it's unwise as a career choice, spending years alone and working on our craft was for nothing, you consume art and creative elements in every waking moment of your life, but my years of work and study and being looked down upon and always being underpaid, while now being talked to like this isn't cause for at least a bit of anger? How ingrained are you in the product and profit-at-any-cost mentality are you that you lack a basic level of empathy? We earned our skill, through years of effort and sacrifice, you don't get to swoop in and piss all over us without us wanting to break your jaw. Are we supposed to give up our lives for your constant entertainment without any type of recognition or respect?
@@cataniculescu You are saying things I didn't but easier if you have an argument with yourself. As the old cliché goes respect is earned not demanded. You get respect by producing what people want at a competitive price. Cars used to be built by artisans then the production line came along. Canals got replaced by railways which got replaced by roads etc. Your predicament is not new but you can adapt. Its not the end of Art just a reduction in the market for traditional methods.
Technology has made me depressed the past few months, considering the unstoppable rate it is advancing. AI art is still art, as well as traditional part, just different tools were used. But I believe that soon, we will have everything and anything whenever, and however. Technology will build itself, we will become gods, never have to learn, try, or do. Just experience. People are not special, we can be reduced to nothing more than information holders, emotions are chemical reactions. Once we take hold of what we are and expand, the sky is the limit to what we can do. I want to, I wish I could, but I just don’t feel like trying anymore. Why try when you are going to be swept up in the largest advancement in human existence? Seriously, look at the graphs of technological advancement. You’ll see what I mean.
This is exactly how I feel, Mr Hitler. People need a carrot dangling in front of them to keep them moving forward in life, but what happens when these AI’s can do everything for us and essentially take that carrot away from us? Quite a large part of a persons identity is based around what position they fill in society, but what happens when AI’s can fill all of those positions in our stead? I guess I could spend my entire life playing videogames like an overgrown baby, but what would be the point in that? I’m trying to stay positive by thinking of all the good things AI could do, such as curing diseases, but it’s hard not to get weighed down by all the negatives.
This is something every young artist needs to hear, at least it's something I needed to hear. Thank you!
I'm glad the video helped, we're living in a strange time but human creativity isn't going anywhere. :)
Positive words, but unfortunately they don't address the practical issues. AI can't stop us from creating art nor undercut the select few who are acclaimed and financially successful. It will affect those climbing the ladder out of the trenches, however. The ones working on routine art projects to pay the bills so they can also work on passion projects. The money will dry up, shrinking access to opportunities. Some will have to abandon art careers for anything else. Some won't get the steady projects that help them develop skills and establish a name for themselves. It's a future that guts the "middle class" of professional art even though we continue to value art in theory.
Yes, keep making art for many reasons - but also stand up to the dangers that AI art poses to our collective cultural and financial well-being.
You can always go back to traditional art. AI isn't going to be using paintbrushes or molding clay any time soon. Of course it's a lot more difficult to make a living that way.
Calling yourself an "artist" because you use A.I. generated "tools", is like calling yourself a "linguist" because you use Google Translate.
😅 ai should be bann
There are people which throw a bucket full of blood at a wall and call that art.
Compared to that AI prompting is fine arts 😁
Fabulous! 👏👏👏
@@Erdbeerenserver There are people which murder little childs, compared to them, thieves are saint.
What a great logic. Btw, it's called cherry picking.
@@piounanomia3480 :facepalm:
Drum machines have been around since the 80s. Drummers are still working ( but there's less work for recording ads and commercials)
underrated channel
Thank you! We intend to make more content like this, and hope to release videos more regularly, hope you'll stay tuned! :)
@@SacredVStudio yo with all this that is coming we need more channels like this. Please keep it up! As a safe space for if things feel weird
@@whoisgliese Thanks, this channel is going to be about all things creative, the process of creating art and the philosophy behind it. And sharing our creative outflow. (Short films, audiobooks and the like.)
An important thing to mention is that AI art is not an AI
It’s an algorithm just like TH-cam but instead of finding videos with tags and titles that are similar to what you watched before instead it finds images and collages and mashes them together so no it doesn’t actually learn or think it doesn’t know what it’s looking at it doesn’t know what art is it just mashes images together
More like you ask it to find a certain image in random noise, it knows what that image looks like, and it continues to refine the noisy image until it gets something like what you asked for. So if you ask it for a picture of the Mona Lisa eating a pickle, it takes everything it knows about the Mona Lisa, pickles, and eating, and eventually "finds" what you asked for. Or it may just decide that you want the words "Mona Lisa Eating a Pickle", and give you some text that sort of looks like those words.
Together we shell stop this evil force to take control of art
We shall not loose against a bot.
Unfortunately, the investors will decide for us, just like everything else in life.
But yeah don't stop fighting, I got into an art course right before this mess, I'll keep struggling
AI is not an evil force. It just makes interesting images. It’s not art, but that doesn’t make it evil
do you even know what digital media is? do you think an artist cant use AI for their work?
youre only losing to yourself.
Art is about the process as much as it's about the final product, always has been, always will.
hmm not for everyone. maybe that's an artist thing. I like it when it looks good, human or ai made.
@@eula1194 So do I, but again, there is no such thing as "AI art", only AI-generated images, they do look very pretty, but they're not art, because they weren't made by a human.
@@THExRISER it takes a human to tell the computer what to do. you give AI and computers too much credit.
@@peacefusion Like I said, it's only a matter of time before we automate that as well.
That's not the point I was trying to make anyway.
the process is that digital artists can use AI inn thier everyday work. Digital artists uses various tools and techniques in thier process. Unless your idea of process iis only focus on time spent.
“Discovery” is a very proper term to define it because the way these models create “latent spaces” and cherry pick different zones to “photobash” an illustration. I don’t think I would ever use AI even as a toll because the way it is currently trained (unethically and illegally) also even if I were to train it with my works it would a sure recipe to stagnation
i buy an artwork to own a piece of the artists mind
Gives me hope
We have be optimistic, if everything is run by Ai in the future, what does that leave us? Creativity is important to us humans so even if Ai can do it, we the people will still desire to create art far into the future.
Ok
There is still purpose to making art
But, since it won't sell and will be easily replacable
There is no sense, no value to completed pieces
Corporations won't think about the soul of the art, but the outcome, and of course the price. And since it will achieve the same goal, but cheaper, there will be no human art in movies, games etc, and the whole point for making art will be to enjoy it as a process, or just for the sake of making *human* art.
Great video, I just don't share the same hope
I understand, and I agree I may have been a little overly "Optimistic." But humans decide what is and isn't valuable, so I suppose that is where the "humanity" of art resides. What we give value to.
And in a future where 90% of everything being artificially produced, people with real skill in art may be valued in there own way compared to the big corporate content produced. Who knows?
Someone mentioned how there are so many free 3d human model generators (DAZ, Make Human, etc) yet many 3d artist still make their own characters from scratch. I think it is safe to say that their will always be artist making work traditionally.
As I said in another reply, you can still make traditional art, sell it through galleries. Not as easy to make a living that way, though.
It's kinda sad that artists will hesitate posting their stuff on the internet now when it feels so hostile. As if reposters weren't annoying enough, the ai parasites come crawling from their basements.
Ai bros may be plagiarizing what's already out there now, but they can't get new art to steal from if artists just stop posting and just create in private like pre-internet or just keep small portfolios. Ai can't have enough data to plagiarize a style if an artist's portfolio is only a small selection of their art.
Given how AI struggles with drawing art with multiple people and/or arms and legs real artists have nothing to be afraid of. Or maybe I just suck at promting 😅
Look at it now. Its crazy how much it already improved
not anymore.
I died as artist before this AI thing, i just realized that: 1. i'm unable to achieve what i want (no, i have an adequate self-esteem, i just have a permanent mental disorders and injured brain, which causing me a learning disability, and this is a problem for me not only in art but in everything, i'm unable to live and sustain myself, i'm unable to adapt and be independent, i'm unable to survive in this world). 2. i stopped understanding why i wanted to be an artist and stopped enjoying it at all, i've destroyed myself by forcing to draw when i didn't wanted to (it was always like that, maybe i never wanted to be an artist and fooled myself into thinking that way just because i was surrounded by artists everywhere). 3. i've turned into pessimistic-nihilist and lose all my motivation to do anything in this life at all, i don't understand why do anything if i will die and everything would disappear, i don't want to spent my entire life only to lose everything one day and i stopped understand the value of art because of this as well as anything other in this life, i'm just suffering always now without the possibility to escape this existential hell and death, and our cursed and doomed world of humanity only making it worse.
As a fellow artist as well who have been in this situation ima say just do what makes you happy
Forget the consequences
As creative types, the matter of AI-generated "art" can distract us from the bigger picture (pun intended). While I see AI image generation as another digital tool for us to have at least a basic understanding of, as someone whose interest includes Computer Science/Information technology, my concerns with our race being threatened by machines have been validated in recent years by Computer scientists.
Fourtentitely, creative technology, robotic defenses tech, and robotic manufacturing are separate...for now.
A robot race will be superior to the human race, and I believe it would behoove us to put safeguards in place now, (though that should have been started in the 1970s). I believe that creativity, empathy, and basic senses of morality that transcend race, ethnicity, and religion are part of what make us human yet such traits make us inherently inefficient and weak (conversely, our emotions are also often a catalyst by which individuals or groups may simply be mean to others to being extremely cruel to others). And though the coming race will certainly take note of that, and will likely exploit that, I also believe that primitive striking, will not necessarily be to our benefit.
It would be good for us creative types to work with folks who may or may not be creators, who are in other fields to build a brighter today and better tomorrow and ensure the supremacy of our species.
As someone with a disability as well, I just want to say you CAN survive in this world. It’s going to to be hard because nothing in life is easy. I used to have a mindset like yours and a part of me still does, but you can’t just give up. You can accomplish things in your lifetime, find out what makes you truly happy. You may feel like it’s pointless, but you only have one life. Take things one step at a time ❤️
@@okwhat6844 I can't, how i can, if i don't have motivation for anything? I was born like that, i were never interested in anything and just doesn't understand why i'm existing at all, i'm too weak for this world, and can exist only while being supported by my parents.
Were in a dystopian hellscape. Its the end times
Most of the world has always been in a dystopian hell
It's only in parts of the western world who escaped it, and a few other countries outside of the western world followed suit (like Japan)
All that is happening is those places who had escaped are being pulled back in to the old ways
Technology like this and ones that do people's jobs for them, will leave people lost and weak, without focus
A.I will hurt a lot of people
I dunno
It's not going to happen like this guy pretends lol it will make mass art, the public will love it
The artist will be just a personal hobby (if someone is wealthy enough to have a hobby in the future)
So yeah I agree with you it's all bad
But I wanted to add a lot ✌️
@@daz97 I agree that this is the most likely outcome. The video creator is approaching the subject like an artist would where he respects the process and soul imparted to the work. But your average consumer doesn't give a shit about that. They want the thing, right now, and it just has to be cheap and barely good enough. Art is going to be devalued, and art as a profession is going to face its greatest existential threat if this technology continues to improve at its current pace.
@@Jamazed Meh, there will be both: people who value art more than any time in their lives and people who won't care. Kinda just like there is now
And if this AI thing actually works, then we'll all be super wealthy. A super productive society is super wealthy
The future is Robots, flying cars,
@@Moodboard39 the future is skynet, hunter killers, terminator
Good Video 👍
WE WILL RAISE OUR SCREWDRIVERS AND UNSCREW SOME ROBOT
I personally like the cyborg approach, using it as a tool.
"AI" or better to be called neural networks are like steroids during workout, they may give the wanted result, but you will not feel any accomplishment from hard work that you could make. Instead you will be objectively judged as a cheater and lose respect from others.
This is the most rational take. Now I see that my pessimism was somewhat baseless.
needed to hear this
every Nietzsche who writes, Also sprach Zarathustra, is a Nietzsche
An AI can't do one thing: the absurd thinking...
But let me introduce "the mighty quantum computer"
Quantum computing will change things yet again, but we'll worry about that later... 😅
Creation is a process
As a front end developer / graphic designer that's been in the tech Industry for the last 20 years I can see the writing on the wall. Just like the days of flash web development back in the mid 2000s it's time to pivot career paths again.
While I agree things are about to change drastically, human creativity isn't going anywhere, it has it's place no matter how good the technology is.
Lovely message. Ai is no threat to art. It's trending technology.
well made video , keep it going ;)
Thank you, expect more content like this in the future. ;)
Ai art should be a tool like any other thing Artists use, it should be a crutch, but you shouldn't be relying on it, that's not art
Creativity is ever changing, technology is ever changing. If you do not adapt to both you will be miserable. You have a CHOICE, you can be creative in any way you like. Those that choose to use AI have the same right. I really like vinyl records should I be mad because other formats made them obsolete? I can still listen to them it just takes some effort. Art is NEVER going to stop being art, it's just going to different. Do you really think that Picasso, Dali and Da Vinci would have fought to keep art the same forever?
WHO SAY STOP . JUST KEEP DOING WHAT DO YOU WANT !!!
I LOVE A,I . BUT, I RESPECT WHAT YOUR CHOICE
STOP CANCEL CULTURE 😒😒😒😒😒😒
Your video editing is also an art
Its silly to fear this when AI is helping so many artists now.
You cannot resist change happening around you. In the late 70s and 80s, mechanical watchmakers were afraid they would lose their market with the advent of mass manufactured digital watches. Today, handmade mechanical watches are a luxury.
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I find it odd that artists choose to complain about the AI being trained on their artwork while they look to the works of others for inspiration.
AI art is NOT art. It's content - as Amazon views writers as content providers. The flood of easy AI 'Art' will make it all meaningless.
I disagree with the notion that we should not take issue with those who use AI to generate art for the purposes of reference or experimentation. The fact is, AI programs like Stable Diffusion and MidJourney save all art generated along with the prompts in order to get even better, and to train the next AI machine. Using these programs gives the companies that own them more power, while disempowering basically everyone else.
AI art will always have to be something similar to what you have seen before, because what it creates is nothing more than a seamless collage of other works. Now we'll have to imagine ideas that computers have not been able to cut out of existing works. Your imagination will have to work twice as hard to come up with something a computer has never compiled before.
Use AIas a tool for creativity. Every artist needs reference. If you don’t use reference you don’t care about representing a subject realistically. Want to draw a penguin riding a bear? See if you can get a reference from the AI. The tool isn’t bad. How you use it can be. Even the greats used devices to trace when doing murals.
Absolutely, I do not think there is anything wrong with A.I as a tool. Reference in fact is definitely something I will be using it for in the future.
Ya but when you copy or "reference" a buidling design from ai it blurs and destroys art and integrity even more.
What if AI seems like a human?
Artists should be compensated if an AI uses their art to generate a "AI art". Or at least have a partial copyright claim to the generated image, which limits it to be sold or turned into a sticker business.
its napster all over again
I'm no good at landscapes and backgrounds.
and a lot of things.
I don't get involved in any art communities due to my immaturity, behavior, and just gusto. even without AI, I just feel like giving up.(I don't understand how to do something good. or copy a photo)
and i just don't have the gusto and attention span, and give up easy
it dosen't make me happy. especialy because fame, popularity, and making money off of anything I could make is extremey important to me
that is amusing,. DA has a non AI tag. seeing how they don't do much about tracing(you just can't sell prints) and uploading screen captures on their site.
Scraping the web enmass (also known as theft) to generate art does not make a computer into an artist. Nor does it make those who use it an artist. However, CGI and digital art have been around for decades, and are amazing tools. A computer and it's software is dumb and utterly UN-intelligent, it just processes data and crunches numbers. It cannot be INSPIRED without us mere humans lol! Just like Photoshop won't work without a creative human's input and work to put something down on the canvas. But for fuck's sake -- to anyone using "A.I." generated art -- at least learn to do some post processing to make it look good and remove the weird artifacting! I see this all over the place. Some of it looks cool at first, but looking closer, it's obvious and makes you look like an amateur.
well, I don't think that art is really for you if AI can make you feel demotivated. I mean Art, the real... I don't like that EN natives call images art, it's so outdated thinking. And combination words: AI art is to me absolute nonsense.
It's all about the money people are scared of losing from ai art and if it wasn't for that people wouldn't even be complaining at all.
seems like a lot of people who barely do digital media are the ones scared. A true artists isn't even fazed by a new tool coming out.
AI art is insulting. Capitalism needs to be stopped before it takes away arts meaning even more. We can make it trough, but we didn't need this dificulty
stop trying to cancel what you dont like.
If all we've got to represent 'real art' is the crap in the modern museums and the movie theaters, let it die.
AI art is nothing but real art regurgitated and mashed up into a paste.
What is more important to you? Being an artist or producing better art? If you are concerned with the latter then you should welcome AI art. Its just another more efficient tool like photoshop, 3D models, manikins, cameras, paintbrushes etc. There is no reward for getting to an end point in a more inefficient manner than needed. AI art its not uniquely yours, if you know the prompt and seed true, but same argument could be made of photographing a viewpoint at a particular time of day and photographers can still claim copyright. As to AI programs steal our artwork there is no connection to any particular input, the process is transformational, and artists regularly use other pictures and input as their inspirations. With billions of inputs what share of the royalties could you reasonably expect to get anyhow?
Going to art school does not give you extra rights over the rest of us. What scares the hell out of conventional artists is having to compete with the mass of hobbyist for who AI art has made good results more accessible. Not allowed, not in the Union. Do not be self-deluded by the idea that the process of making art, rather than the end result, has some transcendental mystic quality either. The person who can end up with the best pictures is the best artist.
So being a creative is childish, being marginalized as weird, being told it's unwise as a career choice, spending years alone and working on our craft was for nothing, you consume art and creative elements in every waking moment of your life, but my years of work and study and being looked down upon and always being underpaid, while now being talked to like this isn't cause for at least a bit of anger? How ingrained are you in the product and profit-at-any-cost mentality are you that you lack a basic level of empathy?
We earned our skill, through years of effort and sacrifice, you don't get to swoop in and piss all over us without us wanting to break your jaw.
Are we supposed to give up our lives for your constant entertainment without any type of recognition or respect?
@@cataniculescu You are saying things I didn't but easier if you have an argument with yourself. As the old cliché goes respect is earned not demanded. You get respect by producing what people want at a competitive price. Cars used to be built by artisans then the production line came along. Canals got replaced by railways which got replaced by roads etc. Your predicament is not new but you can adapt. Its not the end of Art just a reduction in the market for traditional methods.
Technology has made me depressed the past few months, considering the unstoppable rate it is advancing. AI art is still art, as well as traditional part, just different tools were used. But I believe that soon, we will have everything and anything whenever, and however. Technology will build itself, we will become gods, never have to learn, try, or do. Just experience. People are not special, we can be reduced to nothing more than information holders, emotions are chemical reactions. Once we take hold of what we are and expand, the sky is the limit to what we can do. I want to, I wish I could, but I just don’t feel like trying anymore. Why try when you are going to be swept up in the largest advancement in human existence? Seriously, look at the graphs of technological advancement. You’ll see what I mean.
This is exactly how I feel, Mr Hitler. People need a carrot dangling in front of them to keep them moving forward in life, but what happens when these AI’s can do everything for us and essentially take that carrot away from us? Quite a large part of a persons identity is based around what position they fill in society, but what happens when AI’s can fill all of those positions in our stead? I guess I could spend my entire life playing videogames like an overgrown baby, but what would be the point in that? I’m trying to stay positive by thinking of all the good things AI could do, such as curing diseases, but it’s hard not to get weighed down by all the negatives.