Missed number 11, don’t join a high key if you have no clue what the dungeon does, watch a guide before doing that or practice in a low key like 8 or 9 before joining 11+
Honestly don't even join any M+ if you don't know what the dungeon does. There's a literal timer, no room for wipes because you don't know anything about it. Someone not knowing Stitch can absolutely brick a lower Necrotic Wake if they keep getting hooked and have no idea what to do
It's weird they don't let you do Follower Dungeons for all of them. As a brand new player I found it to be initially helpful (especially Dawnbreaker) and wish they'd let us do Follower runs (for garbage loot) which had more of the mechanics. I also think it would be interesting to implement a "mentor" lfg for keys 2-5 (or w/e) where 1 or 2 blasters can allow 3 Mythic + noobies (a run or two, appropriate ilvl) into their group and the mentors get a significant reward once a week or something. No clue how you'd manage or track that but it's awesome raiding with old hands who have taught me so much.
All valid points, but as a pug healer doing 11s atm, its scary how many players don't know how to use defensive's even on that level. It's sad to see someone over 2.5k rio using(or sometimes even don't at all) damage reduction cd after he took all the dmg, which makes the healer fall behind on mana, cds and ppl die, which ultimately breaks keys...
I’m a pug healer/dps at lower key levels than 11 but it’s actually insane when I swap to DPS and use defensives (since I know how much it helps healers), how little damage I take on those dangerous pulls. It’s ridiculous how strong defensives are and seeing your health bar be full while your party’s drop just cements it. I just commit one per pull pretty much even if it’s wasted on average you save your healer so much HPS and CDs.
@@Idelest-52 On higher lvl keys i do need to commit at least one major cd per pull, but if they make me use another and go oom every second pull that key wont be timed, sadly majority of the players don't understand that. Deffesives are as important as offensives.
This is a great video. Every Prot Pally I’ve ran with on my alt has been awesome… because the only people playing them are diehard pally tanks (my main included 😂). Great point on off meta specs
Wow! I wish I had this list when I first started playing M+ so that I could know these things before I started Mythic+! This will be great for those people that are terrible at keys, I guess that's why you made it because you have so much experience! Love to see this sort of scripted content from you rather than just key rips, nice to see you actually put some effort in for once! W video bro can't wait for the next one!
Those advices are 1 to 1 to leaguie of legedns coaching advices I heard back when I palyed league :D good indicator to stay clear of high keys as these high end cotnnet tend to be toxic regardless of the game
not letting people know HOW the screw up is a double edged sword.. people can go for so long without daring to ask because they are doing high keys but still fail mechanics because no one told them and they didnt dare to ask -.-
Returning to play since leaving after cata, never even tried m+ cause they weren’t around then. This vid is great thanks, any m+ vids and tips appreciated 🤘
Honestly, just keep it fun mate. Ignore the toxicity and just play your game. You'll slowly get better over time, but don't compare your key level to other players. Just enjoy yourself, welcome back!
Very recently getting into mythic plus and just doing AOTC for raid. Im going for 3k IO for my very first time before the next couple seasons where ill try and push for title. I have been watching a lot of videos and really enjoy/learn a lot from you content. Im an ENH main as of this season but prior to that i have bren a feral main since legion so.... respect on that. A question... what the best way to find a consistent group to play with? I have been trying for a year and it always seems to fall apart.
Why would I inv you? I wanna tine my key not break it. I also ignkmore every sub rogue and basically anything not meta. Sorry bud I wanna win not let you have fun
people who cannot take being singled out cannot take responsibility. it is VERY generous to assume that everyone making egregious party wiping errors understands that they are responsible for the party wipe. i make errors all the time. i take responsibility for them. i own them. people who cannot or will not, do not have the mindset or temperment to grow.
kinda same, im a ww monk main and well, it takes me 2-3 hours to get an invite, even into keys that i already timed. Made me quit wow faster than ever.
@@VesperalTV hi! is there any way to change green color on your plater when mob is casting spell? cuz it shows green so imo you can interrupt it, but it seems its bugged somehow :P
You *really* have to stop with these thumbnails. Never hit do not recommend me a video faster, just based off the thumbnail. Good content but your audience isn't 8 year olds with zero attention span, for the love of God get with it
Missed number 11, don’t join a high key if you have no clue what the dungeon does, watch a guide before doing that or practice in a low key like 8 or 9 before joining 11+
I'd say, even earlier. Everything before KSM is learning. From KSM and up, mechanics should be known - accidents can still happen ofc.
Honestly don't even join any M+ if you don't know what the dungeon does. There's a literal timer, no room for wipes because you don't know anything about it.
Someone not knowing Stitch can absolutely brick a lower Necrotic Wake if they keep getting hooked and have no idea what to do
8 or 9 are not low keys anymore, you should really just not be doing m+ without knowing the dungeon ever at this point
It's weird they don't let you do Follower Dungeons for all of them. As a brand new player I found it to be initially helpful (especially Dawnbreaker) and wish they'd let us do Follower runs (for garbage loot) which had more of the mechanics.
I also think it would be interesting to implement a "mentor" lfg for keys 2-5 (or w/e) where 1 or 2 blasters can allow 3 Mythic + noobies (a run or two, appropriate ilvl) into their group and the mentors get a significant reward once a week or something.
No clue how you'd manage or track that but it's awesome raiding with old hands who have taught me so much.
It's not unreasonable to expect people to know the mechanics +5 forward. Around that range things start to hurt.
All valid points, but as a pug healer doing 11s atm, its scary how many players don't know how to use defensive's even on that level. It's sad to see someone over 2.5k rio using(or sometimes even don't at all) damage reduction cd after he took all the dmg, which makes the healer fall behind on mana, cds and ppl die, which ultimately breaks keys...
I’m a pug healer/dps at lower key levels than 11 but it’s actually insane when I swap to DPS and use defensives (since I know how much it helps healers), how little damage I take on those dangerous pulls. It’s ridiculous how strong defensives are and seeing your health bar be full while your party’s drop just cements it. I just commit one per pull pretty much even if it’s wasted on average you save your healer so much HPS and CDs.
@@Idelest-52 On higher lvl keys i do need to commit at least one major cd per pull, but if they make me use another and go oom every second pull that key wont be timed, sadly majority of the players don't understand that. Deffesives are as important as offensives.
This is a great video. Every Prot Pally I’ve ran with on my alt has been awesome… because the only people playing them are diehard pally tanks (my main included 😂). Great point on off meta specs
This didnt aged well
Wow! I wish I had this list when I first started playing M+ so that I could know these things before I started Mythic+! This will be great for those people that are terrible at keys, I guess that's why you made it because you have so much experience! Love to see this sort of scripted content from you rather than just key rips, nice to see you actually put some effort in for once! W video bro can't wait for the next one!
This the most backhanded comment ever LOL
@@ReethJones😂😂😂😭😭😭
Those advices are 1 to 1 to leaguie of legedns coaching advices I heard back when I palyed league :D good indicator to stay clear of high keys as these high end cotnnet tend to be toxic regardless of the game
I’ve been using your Player profile, and it’s been awesome. Thank you!
not letting people know HOW the screw up is a double edged sword.. people can go for so long without daring to ask because they are doing high keys but still fail mechanics because no one told them and they didnt dare to ask -.-
Tell them at the end of the key.
Returning to play since leaving after cata, never even tried m+ cause they weren’t around then. This vid is great thanks, any m+ vids and tips appreciated 🤘
Honestly, just keep it fun mate. Ignore the toxicity and just play your game. You'll slowly get better over time, but don't compare your key level to other players. Just enjoy yourself, welcome back!
Thanks for the video! We need to be more vocal about being nice and patient especially when puging...
Very recently getting into mythic plus and just doing AOTC for raid.
Im going for 3k IO for my very first time before the next couple seasons where ill try and push for title. I have been watching a lot of videos and really enjoy/learn a lot from you content.
Im an ENH main as of this season but prior to that i have bren a feral main since legion so.... respect on that.
A question... what the best way to find a consistent group to play with? I have been trying for a year and it always seems to fall apart.
Which auto marker weak auras do you recommend?
Sorry if I've missed this link somewhere =-)
Great vid as always!
Bro is your 1st tip for DPS to DPS. I hope your 2nd and 3rd tip are for tanks to soak hits for party members so they live. And 3rd for healers to heal
i play BM hunter and oh god lord. sometime it can take 45 min+ to get inv to a key and i just doing 7-8 keys atm.
Why would I inv you? I wanna tine my key not break it. I also ignkmore every sub rogue and basically anything not meta. Sorry bud I wanna win not let you have fun
@@solemvow6281 if you doing 10+ keys sure i can understand you point.
And with that mentality you probably brick more keys than you would if you picked the good players on an off meta spec..
people who cannot take being singled out cannot take responsibility.
it is VERY generous to assume that everyone making egregious party wiping errors understands that they are responsible for the party wipe.
i make errors all the time. i take responsibility for them. i own them.
people who cannot or will not, do not have the mindset or temperment to grow.
there is only one thing you all need to know for m+ !!! USE YOUR DAMN DEF SKILLS ! and this comes from a dps player !
how do you get the bar to show others kicks?
Why do you wiggle when you play?
Didnt get any invites for +12 despite having played all on +11 (+2) because I'm not meta.... I hate M+ so much
kinda same, im a ww monk main and well, it takes me 2-3 hours to get an invite, even into keys that i already timed. Made me quit wow faster than ever.
@@imikoimo6685 M+ is really frustrating right now, thats true.
what is the add next to your platter that has everyones cd ?
If you mean the symbols left of his group unit frames the addon is called omnicd
Play the meta when solo.. damn I missed this memo 😂
Fuck em. Play what you want. (the m+ meta community, not the youtuber lmao)
What addons* do you use for making pug groups?
There is a built in group finder that people use for m+
Why do u almost never take any orbs? 🤔
good video
Big W
Could u share nameplates😁
in my discord! link in description
@@VesperalTV hi! is there any way to change green color on your plater when mob is casting spell? cuz it shows green so imo you can interrupt it, but it seems its bugged somehow :P
Number 11: avoid brewmasters and blood dks in pugs. the average brew and bdk is horrible.
You keep jittering left and right when you are casting instant spells for no reason.
@@matjazkralj4228 Swirlie dodge trauma after playing WoW for too long
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Don’t do them.
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try telling all these noobs and key quitters this
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You *really* have to stop with these thumbnails. Never hit do not recommend me a video faster, just based off the thumbnail. Good content but your audience isn't 8 year olds with zero attention span, for the love of God get with it