Judges not knowing rulings is one of the most frustrating parts of OTS's. It did save my ass from a game-loss once, when I was completely burnt out at Round 7 of a regional and drew for a co-linked knightmare unicorn even though opponent chained the targeted backrow and the judge said that was fine. Dont bank on positive experiences like that though...lol
@@lenabo9929 I realize this. I wasn't rude. I do go to locals to learn and win. What makes it worse is my opponent and another seasoned player basically ganged up on me saying no I can't negate.
@@lenabo9929 100% agree with your comment, however there are people going on power trips or having preferential treatment. As a judge, if a player strongly disagrees with a ruling i will always triple check and ask for a precedent or provide one to counter their argument. This ruling was very basic knowledge so i can understand the frustration of the OP, and hope it wasn't intentional
I think is really important to also explain the "why" of a ruling if possible. For example, in the first example Lancea overrides Shifter because its a restriction in what the players can do, shifter just changes what usually happens. Same thing with Droll and Lock Bird and the Mulcharmys or Maxx C, Droll always wins because it says that neither player can add cards from the deck.
I lost a game due to scareclaw kashtira, i had light and dark summoned chaos angel, they summoned kashtira fenrir into scareclaw, they attacked with fenrir ,activated fenrir to banish my chaos angel and it worked, because scareclaw kashtira's battle effect to negate opponents monsters, doesn't activate
I love these videos because they help many people understand how the game works. some notes: - Shifter vs Lancea First of all, Shifter is for 2 turns in order to balance it as a going second card. Imagine dropping it on your turn 1 opponent, then going full Tear combo on your turn with access to GY. That's the only saving grace of this particular card design. In general, cards that prevent an action from happening overrule cards that do said action. This is happening here, even if Lancea is used later and not immediately chained to Shifter. Contradicting lingering/continuous effects can apply simultaneously without making either wear off (that's why Shifter works on the following turn). - Shifter vs Chaos Hunter While it seems the exact same case as Lancea, Chaos Hunter prevents the opponent from banishing cards. So if the opponent uses Shifter, it works the same as Lancea. However if it's your own Shifter, then every card will still be banished (including the opponent's) because it's YOUR Shifter that banishes those cards. - DDG and card types Just like the Xyz Materials are not considered cards of any Card-Type (Monster/Spell/Trap), even monsters considered as S/T due to the gamestate will also work under it. For example set Toy monsters will be sent to GY for something like White Forest Elzette. But a card like Astellar will still check for the original Card Type and not trigger in GY. As a general rule again, when the action has written "monster" or "monster(s)" it means how the gamestate currently treats those cards. When it's about the original Card Type, it will always be used with a capital letter and refer to "Monster Card". This is very consistent in PSCT and the reason cards like Centurion Phalanx works on monsters placed in the backrow as well (or D/D/D Machinex sucking them and pendulum scales) - Accesscode and Crypter If you notice the "no response" effect is written in a separate sentence. This means even under Veiler, your opponent will NOT be able to respond to Accesscode because it's a condition. Similarly, Crypter uses a parenthesis to note the "can't be negated" isn't an effect but a condition, so it will work even under an active Skill Drain. In OCG to separate conditions from effects their PSCT has them on top, while every effect is numbered under them.
- Kashtira Birth It checks on the resolution of a Spell card or effect activation if its condition is met, and not at the activation of said Spell card or effect activation. At that point, Scareclaw is already summoned fulfilling the condition. Divine Temple has the same ruling. Since this is a trigger effect, the wording would be more appropriate as "If your opponent activatED" because the "activates" would make more sense if this was a quick "when" effect that directly chains on said activation. - Demise Ash Gamma Cards that have their restriction in separate sentences immediately apply them on activation, that's why Demise locks the Special Summon of Gamma. So Gamma cannot be used on Ash. But if said activation is negated (for example Solemn Judgment), the restriction is lifted because Demise was "never activated" so you can use your Gamma later that turn (for example activate Desires, get Ashed, chain Gamma) About TCBOO, while you can use Gamma because the summons are simultaneous, there is a specific ruling about the "immediately after this effect resolves, X summon" effects saying they don't apply any part of their effects if it's contradictory, even if they would normally work in the exact same fashion as Gamma (sending Driver etc on resolution). For reference see "Tri-brigade Revolt" Fun fact about Gamma is Evolzar Laggia negating the summon of your only monster. Since your monster technically hasn't hit the field yet, you control no monsters, so if you for example Normal summon Aleister and your opponent uses Laggia to negate the summon you can chain Gamma to negate Laggia. It's confusing because the "summon negation window" works like a limbo between the place the monster comes from (in this case hand) and the field, and this doesn't apply to Spells or Traps generating a lot of confusion (if anyone reads all this, True Draco spells/traps vs Solemn Judgment is an interesting topic) Finally something I recently saw on stream, TB-11 summoning Crypter wherever on the field (in order to abuse the protection effect) should be noticed, since it is a link monster summoned from the Extra Deck so it has to follow the rules of Link monsters either going to an EMZ or a MMZ a link monster already points to.
Just letting you know so you don’t spread misinformation: Under veiler-like effects, accesscode’s condition will not apply because the card is negated 😏. Take for example Hugin from the runick archetype. Would you be able to prevent spell/trap destruction if the card was negated with veiler/chalice/imperm?
@@alisonwinderbrake9259 Please educate yourself before trying to correct other people. Condition CANNOT be negated. The reason it's in a different sentence is to make it clear it's a condition. In OCG PSCT effects are numbered instead, while conditions are at the top of the text. Hugin is an effect. Same with Burning Abyss monsters. Are you one of those players that would Fog Blade their own Bardiche in order to use it as Link material?
Ok so the whole text box is an effect box. If you didn’t know that; so if you negate a monster; then the whole text box is negated, even your silly condition XD
I like the concept of ruling sessions, would be extra helpful if you pointed out the general ruling behind specific interactions. Like in the birth thing where birth checks for kashtira on field only on resolution, why is that? Is it because of how it's worded?
I don’t have a 100% answer, but to my knowledge it’s probably because since it’s a continuous spell, it is always checking, even in the middle of a chain. Continuous effects apply at all times
@rhyanobrownie Birth is a continuous spell but the effect to banish is a trigger. The general idea a trigger effect has is that if the whole condition is met you can declare it, that's why it's strange that it checks on resolution for the presence of a kash monster. This one is really confusing
@@alessandrorampa5536 It's because the check for Birth's effects happens on the resolution of a Spell card/effect activation, and not during the activation of said spell/effect. At that time Scareclaw is on the field, making it legal despite not being present during the opponent's Spell activation. Divine Temple also has the exact same ruling, allowing you to summon a monster on the resolution of a summon even if at that time there was no monster in the S/T zone.
@@alessandrorampa5536 My assumption is bad translation in English. This is a trigger effect so it should have been written as "If your opponent activatED a Spell Card or effect, " because "activates" is used on "when" quick effects that need to directly chain on the previous effect. The previous comment comes directly from translated OCG rulings. For Birth to work as you think it should have been written as this: If your opponent activated a Spell Card or effect, while you controlled a "Kashtira" monster
I knew about the Use VS Activate ruling but didn't know about talents taking them so the new player can use their Desirae effect. Keep up the good content
yo saw you at the Rosemont Regional, it was my first regional. and wanted so say hello and thank you for the content to help me learn but didnt want to interrupt
Story Time! Dude i just played at the Philly Regional. Round 9 i was paired against Fiendsmith Ryzeal. I was playing Pure Ryzeal. I made the soft lock with Blast dragon, Duodrive and Bagooska. My opponet NS Ice and tried to say Ice's effect had a window to activate and RESOLVE before my Bagooska changed it defense. He argued with 3 judges and the head judge about it. The judge call was 15 minutes long. Then literally game 2 he did Duodrive eff to search i chained veiler he chained called by i chained 2nd veiler. He said i couldnt do that and i said yes i can. again the judges came over and ruled with me again. then he was just a prick afterwards lol
Can you go over the maliss crypter ruling where it gets negated but a monster is summoned after a link zone it points to? Some people say it can activate its effect still if it was previous negated like Trif, but others say otherwise
The line of text on Crypter that says it can’t be negated if it points to a monster, isn’t an effect. That clause cannot be negated, so even if Crypter is negated by something like Imperm, if it points to a monster, the effect will resolve to shuffle a Maliss card and banish a card fully because it can’t be negated.
@@papernes 100% right. The parenthesis here is used for PSCT in order to separate this 'condition' from a regular 'effect'. With older PSCT this would be written like Accesscode in a different sentence but this way it's even easier to identify.
I was watching a pak video where he added back a bystial with the firewall dragon and then used the bounce effect again on the opponents turn. Was this a legal thing to do? Since firewall says once while face up on the field?
Yes you can because belle negates the activation. If the activation of a spell trap is negated you can activate another one even if it's "one activation per turn". HOWEVER if the spell trap says "you can only USE one of this card per turn" then you would not be able to activate another copy even if it was belle'd
I got a weird ruling question. If my opponent uses “Dark Magician Circle “ to target banish my Aluber and I chain Book of eclipse to put my Aluber face-down.. why does my Aluber still get banished?
Always ask your head judge. Things change from event to event since we don’t have an official database for TCG.
I lost a match due to judge and opponent saying I couldn't use Desirae after Talents take yesterday at locals. 😢
Judges not knowing rulings is one of the most frustrating parts of OTS's. It did save my ass from a game-loss once, when I was completely burnt out at Round 7 of a regional and drew for a co-linked knightmare unicorn even though opponent chained the targeted backrow and the judge said that was fine. Dont bank on positive experiences like that though...lol
@ak47dragunov yeah, I just need to stand my ground better. Super frustrating, would have been my first top.
Be polite people get things wrong. Especially at a locals level it locals. Most people dont get anything out of judging.
@@lenabo9929 I realize this. I wasn't rude. I do go to locals to learn and win. What makes it worse is my opponent and another seasoned player basically ganged up on me saying no I can't negate.
@@lenabo9929 100% agree with your comment, however there are people going on power trips or having preferential treatment. As a judge, if a player strongly disagrees with a ruling i will always triple check and ask for a precedent or provide one to counter their argument. This ruling was very basic knowledge so i can understand the frustration of the OP, and hope it wasn't intentional
Speaking for everyone. We would love more videos like this. Thank you!
The use vs activate was so helpful. Any tips on place vs activate would be helpful too
I think is really important to also explain the "why" of a ruling if possible. For example, in the first example Lancea overrides Shifter because its a restriction in what the players can do, shifter just changes what usually happens. Same thing with Droll and Lock Bird and the Mulcharmys or Maxx C, Droll always wins because it says that neither player can add cards from the deck.
I lost a game due to scareclaw kashtira, i had light and dark summoned chaos angel, they summoned kashtira fenrir into scareclaw, they attacked with fenrir ,activated fenrir to banish my chaos angel and it worked, because scareclaw kashtira's battle effect to negate opponents monsters, doesn't activate
I love these videos because they help many people understand how the game works. some notes:
- Shifter vs Lancea
First of all, Shifter is for 2 turns in order to balance it as a going second card. Imagine dropping it on your turn 1 opponent, then going full Tear combo on your turn with access to GY. That's the only saving grace of this particular card design.
In general, cards that prevent an action from happening overrule cards that do said action. This is happening here, even if Lancea is used later and not immediately chained to Shifter. Contradicting lingering/continuous effects can apply simultaneously without making either wear off (that's why Shifter works on the following turn).
- Shifter vs Chaos Hunter
While it seems the exact same case as Lancea, Chaos Hunter prevents the opponent from banishing cards. So if the opponent uses Shifter, it works the same as Lancea. However if it's your own Shifter, then every card will still be banished (including the opponent's) because it's YOUR Shifter that banishes those cards.
- DDG and card types
Just like the Xyz Materials are not considered cards of any Card-Type (Monster/Spell/Trap), even monsters considered as S/T due to the gamestate will also work under it. For example set Toy monsters will be sent to GY for something like White Forest Elzette. But a card like Astellar will still check for the original Card Type and not trigger in GY. As a general rule again, when the action has written "monster" or "monster(s)" it means how the gamestate currently treats those cards. When it's about the original Card Type, it will always be used with a capital letter and refer to "Monster Card". This is very consistent in PSCT and the reason cards like Centurion Phalanx works on monsters placed in the backrow as well (or D/D/D Machinex sucking them and pendulum scales)
- Accesscode and Crypter
If you notice the "no response" effect is written in a separate sentence. This means even under Veiler, your opponent will NOT be able to respond to Accesscode because it's a condition. Similarly, Crypter uses a parenthesis to note the "can't be negated" isn't an effect but a condition, so it will work even under an active Skill Drain. In OCG to separate conditions from effects their PSCT has them on top, while every effect is numbered under them.
- Kashtira Birth
It checks on the resolution of a Spell card or effect activation if its condition is met, and not at the activation of said Spell card or effect activation. At that point, Scareclaw is already summoned fulfilling the condition. Divine Temple has the same ruling.
Since this is a trigger effect, the wording would be more appropriate as "If your opponent activatED" because the "activates" would make more sense if this was a quick "when" effect that directly chains on said activation.
- Demise Ash Gamma
Cards that have their restriction in separate sentences immediately apply them on activation, that's why Demise locks the Special Summon of Gamma. So Gamma cannot be used on Ash. But if said activation is negated (for example Solemn Judgment), the restriction is lifted because Demise was "never activated" so you can use your Gamma later that turn (for example activate Desires, get Ashed, chain Gamma)
About TCBOO, while you can use Gamma because the summons are simultaneous, there is a specific ruling about the "immediately after this effect resolves, X summon" effects saying they don't apply any part of their effects if it's contradictory, even if they would normally work in the exact same fashion as Gamma (sending Driver etc on resolution). For reference see "Tri-brigade Revolt"
Fun fact about Gamma is Evolzar Laggia negating the summon of your only monster. Since your monster technically hasn't hit the field yet, you control no monsters, so if you for example Normal summon Aleister and your opponent uses Laggia to negate the summon you can chain Gamma to negate Laggia. It's confusing because the "summon negation window" works like a limbo between the place the monster comes from (in this case hand) and the field, and this doesn't apply to Spells or Traps generating a lot of confusion (if anyone reads all this, True Draco spells/traps vs Solemn Judgment is an interesting topic)
Finally something I recently saw on stream, TB-11 summoning Crypter wherever on the field (in order to abuse the protection effect) should be noticed, since it is a link monster summoned from the Extra Deck so it has to follow the rules of Link monsters either going to an EMZ or a MMZ a link monster already points to.
Just letting you know so you don’t spread misinformation:
Under veiler-like effects, accesscode’s condition will not apply because the card is negated 😏.
Take for example Hugin from the runick archetype. Would you be able to prevent spell/trap destruction if the card was negated with veiler/chalice/imperm?
@@alisonwinderbrake9259 Please educate yourself before trying to correct other people. Condition CANNOT be negated. The reason it's in a different sentence is to make it clear it's a condition. In OCG PSCT effects are numbered instead, while conditions are at the top of the text.
Hugin is an effect. Same with Burning Abyss monsters. Are you one of those players that would Fog Blade their own Bardiche in order to use it as Link material?
Ok so the whole text box is an effect box. If you didn’t know that; so if you negate a monster; then the whole text box is negated, even your silly condition XD
@@alisonwinderbrake9259 misinformation at its finest :)
I like the concept of ruling sessions, would be extra helpful if you pointed out the general ruling behind specific interactions.
Like in the birth thing where birth checks for kashtira on field only on resolution, why is that? Is it because of how it's worded?
I don’t have a 100% answer, but to my knowledge it’s probably because since it’s a continuous spell, it is always checking, even in the middle of a chain. Continuous effects apply at all times
@rhyanobrownie Birth is a continuous spell but the effect to banish is a trigger.
The general idea a trigger effect has is that if the whole condition is met you can declare it, that's why it's strange that it checks on resolution for the presence of a kash monster. This one is really confusing
@@alessandrorampa5536 It's because the check for Birth's effects happens on the resolution of a Spell card/effect activation, and not during the activation of said spell/effect. At that time Scareclaw is on the field, making it legal despite not being present during the opponent's Spell activation. Divine Temple also has the exact same ruling, allowing you to summon a monster on the resolution of a summon even if at that time there was no monster in the S/T zone.
@babrad why though?
@@alessandrorampa5536 My assumption is bad translation in English. This is a trigger effect so it should have been written as "If your opponent activatED a Spell Card or effect, " because "activates" is used on "when" quick effects that need to directly chain on the previous effect.
The previous comment comes directly from translated OCG rulings.
For Birth to work as you think it should have been written as this:
If your opponent activated a Spell Card or effect, while you controlled a "Kashtira" monster
I knew about the Use VS Activate ruling but didn't know about talents taking them so the new player can use their Desirae effect. Keep up the good content
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This is why I prefer simulators. The software is the judge, no need for humans to make mistakes (or cheat).
This is super helpful, looking forward to this series!
That accesscode banish ruling is crazy
Higkey for a game where the player base doesnt understand common grammar, rulings that produces an effect on the player should be reduced lol
Yes, I'm hyped for that! Love to know more about rulings
yo saw you at the Rosemont Regional, it was my first regional. and wanted so say hello and thank you for the content to help me learn but didnt want to interrupt
Always feel free to come say hello!
I’m playing Maliss this format. Now I’m thinking of running Chalice to negate my own Accesscode 😂
Story Time! Dude i just played at the Philly Regional. Round 9 i was paired against Fiendsmith Ryzeal. I was playing Pure Ryzeal. I made the soft lock with Blast dragon, Duodrive and Bagooska. My opponet NS Ice and tried to say Ice's effect had a window to activate and RESOLVE before my Bagooska changed it defense. He argued with 3 judges and the head judge about it. The judge call was 15 minutes long.
Then literally game 2 he did Duodrive eff to search i chained veiler he chained called by i chained 2nd veiler. He said i couldnt do that and i said yes i can. again the judges came over and ruled with me again. then he was just a prick afterwards lol
Evenly vs crystron trap?
Because evenly makes the opponent choose/banish, right?
What about cross in the damage step like neg a Druis u beat over?
Can you go over the maliss crypter ruling where it gets negated but a monster is summoned after a link zone it points to? Some people say it can activate its effect still if it was previous negated like Trif, but others say otherwise
I've heard it can
The line of text on Crypter that says it can’t be negated if it points to a monster, isn’t an effect. That clause cannot be negated, so even if Crypter is negated by something like Imperm, if it points to a monster, the effect will resolve to shuffle a Maliss card and banish a card fully because it can’t be negated.
@@papernes 100% right. The parenthesis here is used for PSCT in order to separate this 'condition' from a regular 'effect'. With older PSCT this would be written like Accesscode in a different sentence but this way it's even easier to identify.
I was watching a pak video where he added back a bystial with the firewall dragon and then used the bounce effect again on the opponents turn. Was this a legal thing to do? Since firewall says once while face up on the field?
No, because that effect is only once while on the field, the same text as baronne de fleur.
Can you reply this, If they belle my maliss in underground, can I active another one ?
Yes you can because belle negates the activation. If the activation of a spell trap is negated you can activate another one even if it's "one activation per turn". HOWEVER if the spell trap says "you can only USE one of this card per turn" then you would not be able to activate another copy even if it was belle'd
Love that kind of content
For the ddg ruling, I thought requiem was still considered a monster since you can use it for necroquip princess?
Monster Card. While in the s/t zone it is a monster card treated as a spell.
I got a weird ruling question. If my opponent uses “Dark Magician Circle “ to target banish my Aluber and I chain Book of eclipse to put my Aluber face-down.. why does my Aluber still get banished?
It depends on the text of Dark Magical Circle. If it says “that card” or “it”, even if it’s flipped face down it’s still the same card.
These videos are gas please do more
Question what if my opponent goes lancea and I chain shifter ?
Same thing
@ awesome thank you ! Love the video btw super helpful
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