880 i better in my opinion, auto is only good if you fly into a room with 5 ppl in it. And even then you can just shoulder peak and pick them off! I use it alot on Paik with smokes, its a really nasty combo
I personally think the 880 is better for multi targets if you manage your cover. The auto makes you win almost every 1v1 though whether you wiff or not lol. For canceling reload you can also just tap T or whatever your plus system button is also. Faster than the double weapon swap b(^-^)J
Hey Stod I started using this shotgun but it's nothing like the one you use, I play on old gen PS4 (yes I am poor) and this MCS 880 have a much smaller dispersion and I don't think you can get a one shot with it to an enemy at 100 HP in Breackthrough Mode, no Portal or anything. I belive this could be some bug or something that is only happening in old gen or something like that idk DICE PLS
I get that but it’s kind of like if shotguns are gonna be more realistic then sniper shots should all be 1 shot kills and AR rounds should be disabling.
Sure, CQC makes sense but at 50 meters? The 880 still 2 shots at that range, even with armor. No reason whatsoever for it to be that accurate at that range, because it's a shotgun.
Most people won’t, I’m playing on console too so that insanely fast snap onto targets just won’t work for me. But I’ve still had some good runs with the shotgun it’s always a really satisfying kill
"If you're looking for maximum accuracy" you stop moving and or crouch. If you don't care (Or you're behind a bunch of dudes) you don't really have to do that. I think the penalty is input based as well so you can technicslly release your input before you fire and it'll gain the immediate accuracy. He does that alot with sniper rifles, stands still for like half a second and fires in that gap
To be entirely fair...DICE does some goofy shit with their mechanics. Decent chance that they don't count jumping as "moving" in the same way that running is. Keep in mind these are the same people that say kneeling somehow effects pellet spread in a shotgun.
@@Armoredcompany Eh, most games do that tbf, Kneeling in general affects spread on basically everything in most games. I mean, in COD your sniper rifles fire at fucking 60 degrees away from where you're pointing but if you crouch and stop moving, you can fairly reliably no scope Jumping not counting as movement is a bit weirder tho, most games make your spread awful when you jump
@@ethandonnelly1973 Ah yes, but with single-projectile guns that actually makes sense as, by and large, crouching is a more stable platform than standing. Shotguns on the other hand, crouching does LITERALLY nothing to your projectile spread, its physically impossible for your posture to effect. Instead of putting in say...exchangeable chokes (you know...the thing that actually changes your pellet spread) they just rolled their faces on the keyboard and we got "HURRDURR CROUCH FOR TIGHTER PELLET SPREAD HURRR"
@@Armoredcompany it doesn't make sense though. Crouching is a more stable platform but the gun doesn't change at all, the on screen sway or position remains exactly the same, it's just like crouching made the gun remember it's a rifled weapon and not a smoothbore POS. When I say 60 degree bullets I mean you can center screen a guy, pull the trigger, And nail the neighbours dog for no reason. Bullet just flies off where ever it wants Game mechanics are always weird on gun handling regardless, but battlefield and other Games aren't really any different, Crouching affects other Games pellets too and hell, there's the very common choking mechanic where aiming tightens spread too for some reason BF ain't really that strange. I think the only game that has semi sensible shotgun mechanics is Apex atm. Aimed or hipfired the spread is the same on most if not all the shotties
I don’t think the shotgun is broken, the only reason more people are not using is because the maps are so massive and with little spaces for cqc combat, that using a shotgun is practically worthless unless you stay on the place where cqc is viable, so I think the shotgun is fine. Tho it would be better if it had the reload cancel of bf3/4, and even then it still wouldn’t be OP
I don't use the shotguns because I tried them out a couple weeks ago and point blanked a guy 3 times....And then died to him Annnnnd at that point I realized this was not the BF1 shotguns of limited range but very viable. This was "Is this thing loaded with snake shot or bean bags?" Shotguns
Whenever I use this gun i can literally have my barrel touching the back of an enemy and it does like 30 damage, I have no idea how anything in this video happened
@@imn0tgarbage EG If you're moving to the left to peak around a corner, tap the movement key to the right juust before you shoot. You're countering the movement/strafe to the left. *Edit: it works the same on a controller. If you're strafing left, see a person, tap right then shoot. The timing can take some practice, but BF isn't too punishing.
The resiliency at 7:20 is phenomenal, getting fired upon but still getting that gun up and managing to annihilate the enemy with absolute ease, hats off to you
It still has low DPS and outside of one shot range the longest time to kill. People will always say it's overpowered if it isn't a damn Doom shotgun that spreads a mile wide past 3 meters
I think my biggest disappointment with this shotgun is that the slug round doesn't really have any increased range. Was really hoping to put a suppressor on this and use the slug rounds for some easy kills in some mid-range fights, but it just didn't work out.
If you’re having trouble with the dmg and you’re on PS4 don’t bother it’s glitched no matter what you do the gun is a pea shooter (I also shot this weapon at an enemy then switched to the revolver, hit a headshot and it did the same dmg as the shotgun, 20)
Thought I was the only one experiencing how bad it was glad to know its just glitched it takes three shots at point blank range it's an absolute joke of a weapon
The flags on breakthrough really need looking at. The fact that 3 out of the 6 maps have flags on top of highrise buildings is just ridiculous. I didn't even know D1 on Orbital was on the rocket, that's how many times I've made it to D1 after fighting for C on top of the tower...
You can 2-3 shot someone hipfiring at someone around 120m away, the shotgun has very little spread even with buckshot. Use some smoke nades and ammo crate and you have plenty of concealment to push objectives.
I got flamed and accused of cheating in chat more than once in BFBC2 using it and slugs on Valparaiso and very low settings so most of the foliage didn't render.
It's probably the least skillful weapon in the game actually. You point and click once, you don't have to aim 90% of the time, it 1 shots in close range and 2/3 shots up to 100m with almost no spread on it.
I don't know about the other times, but this time when your grapple stopped mid-animation it looked almost like it was attached to the safety railing and when the vehicle destroyed the railing, your grapple went with it. Not 100% sure but that's what it looked like on my side which would make perfect sense. I don't use Mackay a whole lot though, so I've never run into a bug where explosives stop you.
Sadly, on PS4 the 880 shotgun is bugged and me and my friends reddit posts about it have been down voted for some reason. Anyways on PS4 it is impossible to one shot anyone with any type of ammo with the 880 mcs; even at point blank range the first shot will only do 20 damage and we have tested this extensively.
Did you test the Shotgun against real human multi-players? or only against BOTS AI? cause I have tested it against BOTS/AI and confirm it absolutely does not one shot any enemy at full health no matter what type of ammo type is used. On PS4 version.
@@rebranded1248 yep, we've tested it against both AI and players and it's the same issue, from what I can tell its a PS4 specific problem, and that's very strange that it's persisted through multiple patches. Ive been one shotted multiple times by Xbox players lol. feels bad man.
@@kaleidoteque7166 thanks for the reply. How is it possible DICE doesn't know about this glitch with the shotty? I understand the game was optimized for next gen, but still there's a higher player base on last gen cause lack of availability to buy next gen consoles. Maybe they do know about it, but its at the bottom of the list of priorities to get fixed, probably never will be fixed.
OOOO, geeked with the MCS 880 in the portal Rush playlist yesterday and grinded up to 300+ kills to get last highest damaging buckshot for it. Also been surprised how little use it gets, absolutely melts people and rarely ever get killed by it.
Could you cover Tier 1 Mastery tips for Specialists? I feel like it would be good content, also since I can’t fly helis that well, would like to know sweet spots for McKay’s mastery 🗿
Probably the most realistic shotgun I've seen in a video game because in reall life I'm shure you could one shot people like that with buckshot at those distances
@@Trichobezoar_ I sort of disagree because you have armor in that game vastly outperforming its real-life counterpart. Like helmets rated for 9mm russian stopping rifle rounds.
I just hope people don't start crying saying it's OP and shit because finally a game give shotguns some well deserved love making them usefull beyond the 5m range where in most cases they look like shooting confetti.
It's good, but I would not call it "broken" with the current state of smgs. If you miss that one shot kill, you're usually dead. If you shoot around the time before you die in a firefight, the shot wont count. To be fair, that could be a latency thing or a 128 player breakthrough thing... That's a pretty hefty trade though when you are giving up consistency for burst damage. Everybody and their grandmother's running around with the MP9/k30 50 round mag. Getting caught in a Reload animation is a death sentence, and you always want to stay topped off which can feel awkward. Is fun to use though! I was sad to see that the slug rounds are nowhere near as good as they were in Battlefield 3. I'm also shocked at how far you can reach out and touch someone with standard buckshot if you stop and crouch for a split second.
To close quarters is better to use SMG and shotguns. If you played BF4 the campaign. Mission on the building is more easy with SMG than assault riffles until you reach the roof top open space. I always use SMG or shotguns for close quarters. Is more effective and more faster. To hip fire. BF1 I used the assault with automatico SMG or the 10 gauge hunter. BfV, i always use any submachine gun. BF4 my favorite is UMP series, MP series suppressed.
10:35 - "Yes, we've got cover this is good, we can do something". I've never seen the streams so I can't say for sure, but the implication of that statement is that this loadout was not doing well at all for the majority of the playtime.
Have you noticed how broken the laser attachment is? When attached if sometimes is visible and sometimes not. Also when visible the laser isn’t even coming from the weapon. Its just suspended near any weapon and doesn’t move smoothly. I don’t know if it’s bugged or just an unfinished attachment.
@@LiquidPinky I got it, but thank you for telling me I had to switch it on, I never even knew I was supposed to when I had it attached, I just thought it worked already lol
Stod, after the update 3, is your game crashing a lot? I'm with a 5900x and a 3070 can't play anymore, after 15min or less of gameplay the game crashes, sometimes DXerror, others there's no information on what happened :(
Ac-42 is my go to . I can snipe people with it on burst fire , 2 to 3 shots garunteed . and its amazing in close quarters ,perfect headshots with that gun every time
i agree but i find more success quickly switching to semi-auto against enemies at range. thing has no recoil on semi so i tap as fast as i can just dint forget to switch back to burst lol
I don't use shotguns cuz I'm always getting blown up by the 4th little bird in a row. also you can cancel the 870 mid reload by just tapping the attachment display "T" menu
Shotguns are so clutch when you use them properly! Tight quarters close combat. Anywhere fighting inside buildings for example. To be more specific why arnt people using the shotgun with Sundance where she can fly in super close range super fast.
Was doing that yesterday on a match on Breakaway. Jumping from glacier to glacier popping snipers and destroying their respawn beacons. Was a lot of fun, especially with the silencer equipped on it.
Think people including me are just trying to get the game to feel responsive, still tweaking my controller settings, lack of aim assist a hindrance so just using any load out to just try and get a good feel for the guns. games fairly new people will start figuring out OP load outs soon enough
Is there a video where you cover your movement technique in 2042? The one thing I see watching you is your movement, you are able to keep momentum whilst also being very difficult to hit with this bunny hopping technique thing you do.
Got that lap top! Managed to snag a 3070 one! I’ve been wanting to get a decent gaming laptop for when I’m on tbe road (my work provided me a high end work station lap top, but it can’t game for shit). I started using both shot guns. They’re busted especially on rush. I find on other modes their only useful for certain situations. I hope we can eventually have two primary’s! For such large maps I feel that’s a good way to keep people happy.
Stodeh M8 i was having fun with the shot gun because no one else was using it now im gonna have to contend with them in close range. Good video but much love.
Funny. the 00 Buck is heavier and does more damage. But significantly reduces effective range. Making most shots over 10 m a 2 shot kill. I think even shorter ranges the 00 Buck does only 2 shot kills. Also, the 01 buck seems to have more spread and pellets than the 00. The 00 seems to have a more tighter pattern.
You only got stopped midair because the yellow railing you grappled onto got smoked into some melted metal my guy hahaha love you long time Master Anakin Stodeh
Just found your channel recently and love the content i wish i had a next gen console/gaming rig to play 2042 but watching these vids have been awesome
I had never played a battfield before in my life until I watched stodeh on argornne forest bf1 running around with the model 10 a hunter. I'm getting the same vibe with this gun haha
What’s your mouse sensitivity at? I always seem to be overshooting my flicks just a bit and I’m wondering if that’s more or less just me needing to refine my skills or if adjusting my mouse sensitivity’ll help.
Can confirm, played a game today, bots, easy, kaleidoscope 2+ hit markers at less then 10m while I'm standing still and my target is standing still, I used the roof top farm glitch to prove this on PS4, do not use shotguns on ps4 they are useless
On the ps4 i cant one shot enemies even if they so close and stand still... if i shoot in the chest or head doesnt matter i need EVERY TIME 2 shots....
That’s what’s so annoying about BF. You shouldn’t have to do a bunch of special movements just to get the full damage of your weapon. Weapons shouldn’t be varying in damage at different ranges like some BF games to force you to play in a specific distance other than a gradual drop of with distance which is understandable since a real bullet would do the same.
Another guy mentioned the shotties might be bugged based on platform and normally I don't buy in to that kinda thing, usually it's not the case but I have the same experience. I haven't tried the shotties again in the last few days but last time I used it, I literally hitmarkered the same dude 3 times in a row at like 7 meters on the PS4 and he killed me and still had like 30 health so I'm not sure if it was just stealth buffed recently or if there's a platform specific issue but last I used this thing it did nothing
@@ethandonnelly1973 ill try to post a clip but i have both a ps4 and ps5. The ps5 mcs880 drastically out performs the ps4 mcs 880. Almost 2 different guns. Same applies to the other shotgun as well. Its definitely a real thing
Welp fun fact about the shotguns… theirs no point in using any other ammo type ( other than slugs because sniping? ) all other ammo types except buckshot #01 sucks.
Can't wait for this to be nerfed too! I swear whenever any weapon besides ARs are good people just cry op. No this shotgun isn't overpowered. It's good and can hold its own in close quarters, like it's meant to. And yeah it has some range to it, probably because the maps are so big it wouldn't be viable without the extra range. Besides, buckshot doesn't just become Airsoft BBs past 20m. That stuff is still sending you to another realm real fucking fast. Dice please just leave the shotguns alone.
00 buck and 04 damage profiles are flip flopped. Nothing but hit markers with 00 buck atm. 04 buck (smaller pellets) the 880 is basically a sniper rifle.
Shotgun isn't broken. Its accurately done. Each pellet in a shotgun round is the equivalent of a 9mm. So when you look at the ammo count how many pellets are in each one. That's how many 9mm rounds you basically hit with all at once. Shotguns are very powerful irl.
I’m having a hell of a time using shotguns. People were eating 3-4 shots point blank and all I was getting were hit markers. Same gun killed me from distance, one shot.
The shotgun was the MCS 880 btw... is the auto shotgun better??
my aim is terrible so I use the auto
Bf sucks
880 i better in my opinion, auto is only good if you fly into a room with 5 ppl in it. And even then you can just shoulder peak and pick them off!
I use it alot on Paik with smokes, its a really nasty combo
I personally think the 880 is better for multi targets if you manage your cover. The auto makes you win almost every 1v1 though whether you wiff or not lol. For canceling reload you can also just tap T or whatever your plus system button is also. Faster than the double weapon swap b(^-^)J
Hey Stod
I started using this shotgun but it's nothing like the one you use, I play on old gen PS4 (yes I am poor) and this MCS 880 have a much smaller dispersion and I don't think you can get a one shot with it to an enemy at 100 HP in Breackthrough Mode, no Portal or anything.
I belive this could be some bug or something that is only happening in old gen or something like that idk
DICE PLS
More impressive that you won attacking on breakthrough on orbital
There is hope guys😂
I was surprised he didnt have to deal with 20 turrets lined up there like there usually is
The skyscraper posts are so friggin broken. They need to rework that shit
I won once lol
Yh I physically cannot be on the attacking team on that map. Its just aids
shotguns should be powerful in close quarters, its not OP.
Als at medium range?
I get that but it’s kind of like if shotguns are gonna be more realistic then sniper shots should all be 1 shot kills and AR rounds should be disabling.
@@heroinpapi1845 considering its ammo capacity is only 8 shots and the fire rate is kinda slow, being a one shot up to 20 meters is pretty reasonable.
@@MrJimBF The svk, ak20 etc. all out dps it at medium range. its not better that medium ranged weapons at medium range, it just isn't useless.
Sure, CQC makes sense but at 50 meters? The 880 still 2 shots at that range, even with armor. No reason whatsoever for it to be that accurate at that range, because it's a shotgun.
Maybe the shotgun is good, but there's no way I'll ever pull off anything similar to the stuff in this video.
Yes ! I think they need a special patch that nerf Stodeh's weapons lmfao
Most people won’t, I’m playing on console too so that insanely fast snap onto targets just won’t work for me. But I’ve still had some good runs with the shotgun it’s always a really satisfying kill
my thoughts also, think he's playing another version of battlefield :D
@Sir lord ian of essex that's why I'm turning off Crossplay, maybe I'll do better with the shotgun against other console players
Dude the mouse is god point and click dead
They stealth buffed a lot of things not mentioned in the patch notes.
Try using the LMG's too. You're basically getting 200 bullet AR's.
Pecheneg with the last muzzle device and hi power round is like a hand held blender.
@@hostilegoat I was wondering why that thing shredded me lately!
@@Menkamang damage doesn't drop off until 40m!
But they also nerfed things like the 30mm cannon and the heat tank shell (now it drops like they're in the club)
@@gijsvandergracht8000 so they nerf massive tank rounds and shells to oblivion but turn 556 lmgs into gods? Lol fuck this game
tells us to not move when shooting. proceeds to jump and shoot everyone
"If you're looking for maximum accuracy" you stop moving and or crouch.
If you don't care (Or you're behind a bunch of dudes) you don't really have to do that.
I think the penalty is input based as well so you can technicslly release your input before you fire and it'll gain the immediate accuracy. He does that alot with sniper rifles, stands still for like half a second and fires in that gap
To be entirely fair...DICE does some goofy shit with their mechanics. Decent chance that they don't count jumping as "moving" in the same way that running is. Keep in mind these are the same people that say kneeling somehow effects pellet spread in a shotgun.
@@Armoredcompany Eh, most games do that tbf, Kneeling in general affects spread on basically everything in most games.
I mean, in COD your sniper rifles fire at fucking 60 degrees away from where you're pointing but if you crouch and stop moving, you can fairly reliably no scope
Jumping not counting as movement is a bit weirder tho, most games make your spread awful when you jump
@@ethandonnelly1973 Ah yes, but with single-projectile guns that actually makes sense as, by and large, crouching is a more stable platform than standing.
Shotguns on the other hand, crouching does LITERALLY nothing to your projectile spread, its physically impossible for your posture to effect. Instead of putting in say...exchangeable chokes (you know...the thing that actually changes your pellet spread) they just rolled their faces on the keyboard and we got "HURRDURR CROUCH FOR TIGHTER PELLET SPREAD HURRR"
@@Armoredcompany it doesn't make sense though.
Crouching is a more stable platform but the gun doesn't change at all, the on screen sway or position remains exactly the same, it's just like crouching made the gun remember it's a rifled weapon and not a smoothbore POS.
When I say 60 degree bullets I mean you can center screen a guy, pull the trigger, And nail the neighbours dog for no reason. Bullet just flies off where ever it wants
Game mechanics are always weird on gun handling regardless, but battlefield and other Games aren't really any different, Crouching affects other Games pellets too and hell, there's the very common choking mechanic where aiming tightens spread too for some reason BF ain't really that strange.
I think the only game that has semi sensible shotgun mechanics is Apex atm. Aimed or hipfired the spread is the same on most if not all the shotties
Stop using "broken" to mean "good at what it is meant to do and is fun to use"
welcome to modern society, where we change even the simplest of words into a entire new meaning.
Say it louder for the people in the back, smh
@@TampaxVortex.666 That isn't new, it's how language evolves.
I guess shotguns are so useless that them actually doing real life shotgun damage is not the norm
13:10 I think it‘s because the railing you grappled onto got blown up, which is a fair mechanic in my opinion.
Yeah lol. Thats exactly why
I don’t think the shotgun is broken, the only reason more people are not using is because the maps are so massive and with little spaces for cqc combat, that using a shotgun is practically worthless unless you stay on the place where cqc is viable, so I think the shotgun is fine. Tho it would be better if it had the reload cancel of bf3/4, and even then it still wouldn’t be OP
I don't use the shotguns because I tried them out a couple weeks ago and point blanked a guy 3 times....And then died to him
Annnnnd at that point I realized this was not the BF1 shotguns of limited range but very viable.
This was "Is this thing loaded with snake shot or bean bags?" Shotguns
@@ethandonnelly1973 I agree. I shot an AI 3 times with the shotgun also and died to him
@@TheBasketball94 ouch, That'll sting
I don't use it because it's hot fucking garbage that hits for 18 damage at 10 feet.
You actually can cancel the shotgun reload, you have to hold the fire button down rather than press it
Or hold plus system button
Whenever I use this gun i can literally have my barrel touching the back of an enemy and it does like 30 damage, I have no idea how anything in this video happened
Facts. You have to practically be touching the other player to have the shots land. Even then, you'll do peanuts for damage.
Same thing when I use it. Like shooting a water pistol at enemies
It's because you're trying to move and shoot, gotta counter strafe
@@taintidturtle can you explain what counter strafing means?
@@imn0tgarbage EG If you're moving to the left to peak around a corner, tap the movement key to the right juust before you shoot. You're countering the movement/strafe to the left. *Edit: it works the same on a controller. If you're strafing left, see a person, tap right then shoot. The timing can take some practice, but BF isn't too punishing.
Let me use the shotgun, get crazy a number of kills. Then tell Dice to nerf it so you don't. WTF!
The resiliency at 7:20 is phenomenal, getting fired upon but still getting that gun up and managing to annihilate the enemy with absolute ease, hats off to you
Actually, I thought the B sector on Orbital was the last one. Never saw past that roof after 20 years playing 2042
Anytime a shotgun has realistic damage at range youtubers always scream "it's overpowered"😂😂😂
It still has low DPS and outside of one shot range the longest time to kill. People will always say it's overpowered if it isn't a damn Doom shotgun that spreads a mile wide past 3 meters
Probably because they exist in a world were 2-3 assault rifle bullets can go through your chest and you still get away just fine.
Also, remember to always throw back enemy motion sensors, they become friendly if you do.
Didn't know you could do that, thanks!
@@KrisW3B Of course! As powerful as they are and as hectic as this game can be, every bit of knowledge counts!
I think my biggest disappointment with this shotgun is that the slug round doesn't really have any increased range. Was really hoping to put a suppressor on this and use the slug rounds for some easy kills in some mid-range fights, but it just didn't work out.
What I've concluded from all this is, if we don't have an internet connection and beefy PC as you do, we're all doing it wrong.
If you’re having trouble with the dmg and you’re on PS4 don’t bother it’s glitched no matter what you do the gun is a pea shooter (I also shot this weapon at an enemy then switched to the revolver, hit a headshot and it did the same dmg as the shotgun, 20)
Thought I was the only one experiencing how bad it was glad to know its just glitched it takes three shots at point blank range it's an absolute joke of a weapon
Man your Snipers & Knives only mode on Portal has finally brought me some joy in this game, thank you and do not let it disappear
I usually use Paik's gadget motion sensors and c5 together with the shotgun. I call it my breacher kit
The flags on breakthrough really need looking at. The fact that 3 out of the 6 maps have flags on top of highrise buildings is just ridiculous. I didn't even know D1 on Orbital was on the rocket, that's how many times I've made it to D1 after fighting for C on top of the tower...
in like a whole round of Conquest theres probably 1-5 situations where you can use a shotgun. you get easy outplayed by any rifle in the game.
You can 2-3 shot someone hipfiring at someone around 120m away, the shotgun has very little spread even with buckshot. Use some smoke nades and ammo crate and you have plenty of concealment to push objectives.
@@Stygiophobic I can't 2 shot someone at 10 feet half the time with this fucking thing.
It’s like the 870 in literally every battlefield to date that had it… you have to be skillful and when you are it’s insane
True
I got flamed and accused of cheating in chat more than once in BFBC2 using it and slugs on Valparaiso and very low settings so most of the foliage didn't render.
It's probably the least skillful weapon in the game actually. You point and click once, you don't have to aim 90% of the time, it 1 shots in close range and 2/3 shots up to 100m with almost no spread on it.
I'm not sure about that, all shotguns were super easy to use on BF3&4 atleast for me other than the UTS
I don't know about the other times, but this time when your grapple stopped mid-animation it looked almost like it was attached to the safety railing and when the vehicle destroyed the railing, your grapple went with it. Not 100% sure but that's what it looked like on my side which would make perfect sense. I don't use Mackay a whole lot though, so I've never run into a bug where explosives stop you.
Sadly, on PS4 the 880 shotgun is bugged and me and my friends reddit posts about it have been down voted for some reason. Anyways on PS4 it is impossible to one shot anyone with any type of ammo with the 880 mcs; even at point blank range the first shot will only do 20 damage and we have tested this extensively.
Did you test the Shotgun against real human multi-players? or only against BOTS AI?
cause I have tested it against BOTS/AI and confirm it absolutely does not one shot any enemy at full health no matter what type of ammo type is used. On PS4 version.
@@rebranded1248 yep, we've tested it against both AI and players and it's the same issue, from what I can tell its a PS4 specific problem, and that's very strange that it's persisted through multiple patches. Ive been one shotted multiple times by Xbox players lol. feels bad man.
@@kaleidoteque7166 thanks for the reply. How is it possible DICE doesn't know about this glitch with the shotty? I understand the game was optimized for next gen, but still there's a higher player base on last gen cause lack of availability to buy next gen consoles. Maybe they do know about it, but its at the bottom of the list of priorities to get fixed, probably never will be fixed.
This explains a lot cuz my aim is really good and hitting people point fuckin blank and getting 20 damage if that
@@rebranded1248 the only way to 1 shot is if you use slugs and hit the head the first shot will always count all pellets as a single pellet on ps4.
OOOO, geeked with the MCS 880 in the portal Rush playlist yesterday and grinded up to 300+ kills to get last highest damaging buckshot for it. Also been surprised how little use it gets, absolutely melts people and rarely ever get killed by it.
i'd play more shotguns but the game plays at 30 fps for me so it's kinda hard to aim at CQC
Could you cover Tier 1 Mastery tips for Specialists? I feel like it would be good content, also since I can’t fly helis that well, would like to know sweet spots for McKay’s mastery 🗿
In the Apache gunner seat haha
Probably the most realistic shotgun I've seen in a video game because in reall life I'm shure you could one shot people like that with buckshot at those distances
Was going to say the same thing
Personally think Tarkov gets it a bit better (particualrly around how it interacts with armor) , but yea this is damn a good representation.
@@Trichobezoar_ I sort of disagree because you have armor in that game vastly outperforming its real-life counterpart. Like helmets rated for 9mm russian stopping rifle rounds.
I just started watching this channel. This dude has unreal reaction time. Watching makes me realize I need to improve.
I just hope people don't start crying saying it's OP and shit because finally a game give shotguns some well deserved love making them usefull beyond the 5m range where in most cases they look like shooting confetti.
Finally a game giving shotguns love? What fps game have u been playing where the shotguns suck lmao
@@FuhzyLiquids CoD is one example... you need to stick the weapon's barrel up someones throat to kill with only one shot!
@@FuhzyLiquids cod
It's good, but I would not call it "broken" with the current state of smgs. If you miss that one shot kill, you're usually dead. If you shoot around the time before you die in a firefight, the shot wont count. To be fair, that could be a latency thing or a 128 player breakthrough thing... That's a pretty hefty trade though when you are giving up consistency for burst damage. Everybody and their grandmother's running around with the MP9/k30 50 round mag. Getting caught in a Reload animation is a death sentence, and you always want to stay topped off which can feel awkward. Is fun to use though! I was sad to see that the slug rounds are nowhere near as good as they were in Battlefield 3. I'm also shocked at how far you can reach out and touch someone with standard buckshot if you stop and crouch for a split second.
To close quarters is better to use SMG and shotguns. If you played BF4 the campaign. Mission on the building is more easy with SMG than assault riffles until you reach the roof top open space. I always use SMG or shotguns for close quarters. Is more effective and more faster. To hip fire. BF1 I used the assault with automatico SMG or the 10 gauge hunter. BfV, i always use any submachine gun. BF4 my favorite is UMP series, MP series suppressed.
Do you usually ADS or just hip fire with this thing? Which is better for runnin and shotgunnin?
Turned battlefield into a point and click adventure. I absolutely love this
Im currently using that its so op, trying to unlock the different buckshot spread ammo which is the last unlock on the ammunition type
10:35 - "Yes, we've got cover this is good, we can do something". I've never seen the streams so I can't say for sure, but the implication of that statement is that this loadout was not doing well at all for the majority of the playtime.
Have you noticed how broken the laser attachment is? When attached if sometimes is visible and sometimes not. Also when visible the laser isn’t even coming from the weapon. Its just suspended near any weapon and doesn’t move smoothly. I don’t know if it’s bugged or just an unfinished attachment.
Got to switch it on, and switch it on again after you die. Underbarrel key or button BTW. ;)
@@LiquidPinky how to switch it on for Xbox?
@@Storm-gh9bx Bit late sorry, it just uses the underbarrel attachment button like switching to a grenade launcher.
@@LiquidPinky I got it, but thank you for telling me I had to switch it on, I never even knew I was supposed to when I had it attached, I just thought it worked already lol
I used them for about an hour.. there's no "punch" to them, often times they just don't seem to register a hit.. at least on xbox.
Same problem on ps4. Makes a nice outline though.
@@MrTiger310 I remember unlocking the 870 in BF4 for the first time.. basically a god gun.
These future shotguns, suck.
@@MrTiger310 I remember unlocking the 870 in BF4 for the first time.. basically a god gun.
These future shotguns, suck.
@@MrTiger310 I remember unlocking the 870 in BF4 for the first time.. basically a god gun.
These future shotguns,suck.
@@MrTiger310 I remember unlocking the 870 in BF4 for the first time.. basically a god gun.
These future shotguns,suck.
You can cancel the reload by pressing the button to change attachments mid round (T) on pc
Stod, after the update 3, is your game crashing a lot? I'm with a 5900x and a 3070 can't play anymore, after 15min or less of gameplay the game crashes, sometimes DXerror, others there's no information on what happened :(
Ac-42 is my go to . I can snipe people with it on burst fire , 2 to 3 shots garunteed . and its amazing in close quarters ,perfect headshots with that gun every time
what barrel and grip you use ? Barely see any difference while using
i agree but i find more success quickly switching to semi-auto against enemies at range. thing has no recoil on semi so i tap as fast as i can just dint forget to switch back to burst lol
@@starwatcher73 when sniping I use the long barrel and the bipod , keep it on burst and aim at the chest , always will get a headshot
I don't use shotguns cuz I'm always getting blown up by the 4th little bird in a row. also you can cancel the 870 mid reload by just tapping the attachment display "T" menu
Shotguns are so clutch when you use them properly! Tight quarters close combat. Anywhere fighting inside buildings for example.
To be more specific why arnt people using the shotgun with Sundance where she can fly in super close range super fast.
Was doing that yesterday on a match on Breakaway. Jumping from glacier to glacier popping snipers and destroying their respawn beacons. Was a lot of fun, especially with the silencer equipped on it.
Think people including me are just trying to get the game to feel responsive, still tweaking my controller settings, lack of aim assist a hindrance so just using any load out to just try and get a good feel for the guns. games fairly new people will start figuring out OP load outs soon enough
Im starting to use 12 Auto with Sundance and i can do 4 killstreaks without them noticing me when i flank them
I'm trying to build a shotguns and knives mode in Portal. Really enjoying the Snipers and Knives mode it's lots of fun!
Is there a video where you cover your movement technique in 2042? The one thing I see watching you is your movement, you are able to keep momentum whilst also being very difficult to hit with this bunny hopping technique thing you do.
I can't believe Stod managed to kill a SCP with a shotty. Absolute madlad.
At 6:33 that's when @Stodeh got bit by a spider and became Stodehman...
Got that lap top! Managed to snag a 3070 one! I’ve been wanting to get a decent gaming laptop for when I’m on tbe road (my work provided me a high end work station lap top, but it can’t game for shit).
I started using both shot guns. They’re busted especially on rush. I find on other modes their only useful for certain situations. I hope we can eventually have two primary’s! For such large maps I feel that’s a good way to keep people happy.
Been using the 12M Auto... its pretty beastly
havent played battlefield since bf3 but mannnn this brings it back
Shotguns beeing fun in BF... you love to see it!
I love the 880 I’ve been using since I started playing a few days ago I don’t see many people running it.
Shotguns are insane on the shipment map, most ppl can be found running through the containers and it’s easy farming
Stodeh M8 i was having fun with the shot gun because no one else was using it now im gonna have to contend with them in close range.
Good video but much love.
Funny. the 00 Buck is heavier and does more damage. But significantly reduces effective range. Making most shots over 10 m a 2 shot kill. I think even shorter ranges the 00 Buck does only 2 shot kills. Also, the 01 buck seems to have more spread and pellets than the 00. The 00 seems to have a more tighter pattern.
Have you tried the GVT? It’s basically a mini sniper
Try the GVT. It's my go to sniper lol
You only got stopped midair because the yellow railing you grappled onto got smoked into some melted metal my guy hahaha love you long time Master Anakin Stodeh
Use Dozer's riot shield & shotgun w proxy sensors. Ultimate flank loadout.
Just found your channel recently and love the content i wish i had a next gen console/gaming rig to play 2042 but watching these vids have been awesome
I had never played a battfield before in my life until I watched stodeh on argornne forest bf1 running around with the model 10 a hunter. I'm getting the same vibe with this gun haha
I’ve never seen the c sector on orbital. Thanks for great experience stod
What’s your mouse sensitivity at? I always seem to be overshooting my flicks just a bit and I’m wondering if that’s more or less just me needing to refine my skills or if adjusting my mouse sensitivity’ll help.
How is that your hip fire reticle is so tight?
All shotguns in this game have tiny hip fire areas.
Can confirm, played a game today, bots, easy, kaleidoscope 2+ hit markers at less then 10m while I'm standing still and my target is standing still, I used the roof top farm glitch to prove this on PS4, do not use shotguns on ps4 they are useless
true and how are you still doing the rooftop farm glitch when i go prone now it pushes me off the building.
Stodeh just wanted to say thank you for your battlefield videos. I love your videos and you're amazing man keep up the good work.
On the ps4 i cant one shot enemies even if they so close and stand still... if i shoot in the chest or head doesnt matter i need EVERY TIME 2 shots....
Have you tried pressing the shoot key twice to stop mid reload? That method works for me.
That’s what’s so annoying about BF. You shouldn’t have to do a bunch of special movements just to get the full damage of your weapon. Weapons shouldn’t be varying in damage at different ranges like some BF games to force you to play in a specific distance other than a gradual drop of with distance which is understandable since a real bullet would do the same.
I honestly thought that was awesome. Ive got the game now im going to try my hand at the shotguns. That was the coolest vid ive seen in a while
Stodeh your the shotgun master. After Watching this video I might give the shotgun ago I've never been a big fan of the Battlefield shotguns
I've a question. How are people seeing the green en red up/downsides when using the plus system? I don't see that on the ps4pro version.
Probably because you're on the 'ghetto gen' console instead of the next-gen goodness they want you to buy.
@@Armoredcompany so it is on ps5, pc and Xbox series
@@jessepinkman6253 I'm pretty sure i've seen video of it yeah. don't quote me though.
Glad to hear
Another guy mentioned the shotties might be bugged based on platform and normally I don't buy in to that kinda thing, usually it's not the case but I have the same experience. I haven't tried the shotties again in the last few days but last time I used it, I literally hitmarkered the same dude 3 times in a row at like 7 meters on the PS4 and he killed me and still had like 30 health so I'm not sure if it was just stealth buffed recently or if there's a platform specific issue but last I used this thing it did nothing
Shotguns are better on next gen consoles. I tested this
@@Guest-iy3tc how the FUCK did they manage that
Same I used on PS4 and point blank behind a guy got 3 hit markers and turned around and killed me.
@@ethandonnelly1973 ill try to post a clip but i have both a ps4 and ps5. The ps5 mcs880 drastically out performs the ps4 mcs 880. Almost 2 different guns. Same applies to the other shotgun as well. Its definitely a real thing
I wanna know what ammo ur using cuz on PS4 pro right now it’s a 4 to 5 shot kill even up close
You can tap the "T" menu to cancel the reload even btw!
If you double tap fire it’ll stop the reload though that’s slower than the double swap
Fire as in left click twice
Missing my Spas-12 from the BF3 ;)
Godly gun on operation metro
2042 feels like a fun game, I'd def buy it when it gets fully fixed and gets at least 6 months worth of content
Thanks stodeh, gonna see in every game for the next 2 years
I thank it's like Any other game it's mostly about the ping if you have 100ms ping you at a huge disadvantage to someone with a 10ms ping..
Title of the video "You are using shotguns WRONG" proceeds to look at people and click. Dang, I didn't think of that, glad it was sorted
Welp fun fact about the shotguns… theirs no point in using any other ammo type ( other than slugs because sniping? ) all other ammo types except buckshot #01 sucks.
What ammo you use 🤔???
Can't wait for this to be nerfed too!
I swear whenever any weapon besides ARs are good people just cry op.
No this shotgun isn't overpowered. It's good and can hold its own in close quarters, like it's meant to. And yeah it has some range to it, probably because the maps are so big it wouldn't be viable without the extra range. Besides, buckshot doesn't just become Airsoft BBs past 20m. That stuff is still sending you to another realm real fucking fast. Dice please just leave the shotguns alone.
6:35 now that is how you use the grapple hook.
That _thing_ at the end looked like T-1000 at the end of T2 when he's dying and morphing all demonic like.
This shotgun was mad OP in BF4! I remember getting kicked from servers for using this shotgun.🤣
Agree
00 buck and 04 damage profiles are flip flopped. Nothing but hit markers with 00 buck atm. 04 buck (smaller pellets) the 880 is basically a sniper rifle.
You can also cancel reload by activating attachment menu.
Been Using The Shotty Since The Game Dropped But Great Vid
Shotgun isn't broken. Its accurately done. Each pellet in a shotgun round is the equivalent of a 9mm. So when you look at the ammo count how many pellets are in each one. That's how many 9mm rounds you basically hit with all at once. Shotguns are very powerful irl.
How do you get the yellow roofs on that map because their not there for me?
12:06
"GET OVER HERE"
You can stop the reload by firing. It's just finishes it's current animation and stops before another shell..
My man was 1 shotting the homies before the shotgun even was a 1 shot. 🤨🤣.
stodeh is the reason this game doesnt suck, just watch him play :D
I’m having a hell of a time using shotguns. People were eating 3-4 shots point blank and all I was getting were hit markers. Same gun killed me from distance, one shot.