You are conducting the highest quality work with these concepts. Like no one else is. You are taking the foundation of what Tesla started & blending it with our modern advancements & capabilities that were never available to people in the past. Plus i haven't seen someone approach these ideas at this top tier quality tinkering work. Seriously, your grasp of engineering, physics, science, electrical work, etc. Is at a level that pretty much seems like someone could hire you right on to their professional program and provide you with a position and you guys can work on projects in a full on laboratory and work shop. Keep up the great work 🤘🏻
Aw shucks! My guy, you’ve got me blushing! Thanks for such kind words! It really means a lot to me. And thanks for coming along on this adventure with us! I just hope we can do Tesla right finally!
hey thanks for commenting and showing your love and support! 🙏❤️ it really helps with the algorithm! Oh believe me, I’ve got my head on a swivel! Im literally living my dream right now. Ain’t no checking out of this. 🤭 The only way to beat them is to share this around to as many places as you can! The more loose ends we make the harder it is for them to stitch their cover back together.
I think weezer said it best with “If you want to destroy my sweater (whoa, whoa, whoa) Hold this thread as I walk away (as I walk away) Watch me unravel, I'll soon be naked Lying on the floor Lying on the floor I've come undone” We gotta get this stuff visible to the naked eye for everyone to see! 🤓😬😂
For vacuum feedthroughs I will use a solid copper wire with RTV silicone to seal it. Should work plenty good enough for what you are doing, likely not going to work very well if you're making vacuum tube amplifiers or something like that.
Great idea. I’ve got some polycarbonate caps for the clamps and I was going to drill a hole in and put a bolt through with some gaskets for testing. In the long run I would like to find something that’s off the shelf that we can make sure will be quality for our customers.
@Charlie Solis have you tried checking vacuum tube forums? May have some info there. You can also potentially use brass plumbing fittings and whatever method you use to seal them, of course you would need to isolate and enclose the live metal
Love it. This was going to be my next try. But I wasn’t sure what kinda continuous current they could handle off the top of my head. I imagined it would be more than I need for now but it wasn’t a spec I could find from a manufacture. Although they seem to be pretty large conductors.
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Righteous my Brother!! Looks as if the TT has forced your hand into upgrading it lolz. Quite honestly, probably at least half of the sound coming from the vacuum vessel.
@@CharlieSolis Same here. It might be contained within A vacuum, just not outer space lolz. What's your prognosis though? The pressurized turbine casing trying to expand outwardly in the vacuum, via temperature/pressure differentials; vibrational strain; just all the previous wear and tear catching up to it; or all of the above?
@@jeffpatrick1864 the ferrules were probably over tightens into the flanges and cause them to break. You can hear a “Pop” noise when I open the throttle on one of the spin ups. I think that was one of them going. Just the stainless expanding faster than the plastic also could have done it.
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Thank you Charlie Vy nice instructive video Any pellet driven steam generator accompanied by the tesla disk turbine generator in the works ? Gd luck with your projects And plse be safe
Hey man it’s Kusal from IG! Glad to connect! This is amazing. I’ve had vision of an amazing boat, plane concept and using steam and da Vinci-esk with pulley. So cool you have some awesome tech. If I ever become bless to do boat venture in my 50s. I know Who is ask as my Anthony stark (iron man’s dad who was the best engineer) This is amazing tech for future homes .
Hey much love, Kusal! Thanks for coming on over and joining the fun! Oh yeah I will definitely be working on water thrusters here very soon! Did you get a chance to watch my Tesla Turbines for Stealth Nuclear submarines yet? Tesla Turbines For Nuclear Submarines th-cam.com/video/C7oBR9ow0vI/w-d-xo.html
@@CharlieSolis BTW, I've made my own electrical pass-throughs before just using a bulkhead fitting/nipple, running the wires through, and filling it with epoxy. Works quite well and is cheap.
@@CharlieSolis The epoxy will last a long time and keep the seal, the only issue I've had with prolonged use was in situations where there was a lot of repetitive strain on the wires coming out that broke the wires. I've done other versions that had epoxy in the middle and maybe a 1/4" thick silicon on either end to act as a strain relief for the wires. Also, for best results/seal, I removed the jacket from any wires (that were bundled in a multi-wire cable) and ran them individually so each wire was sealed entirely with epoxy. with a jacket, I suppose some air could get through.
Oh nice. I'm totally gonna check it out. I think I may have been like, phantom unsubbed from your channel 😶 I randomly came across this video again and had to resubscribe. I know I must've subscribed because there's no way I wouldn't have given what you've made here.
Yes definitely they can be used. You would need a lot of them, about the same area of a 10ftx20ft to get enough power and energy for the whole days worth of energy though. This is why mirrors are better than lenses. But t certainly can still work
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Dude this is beyond amazing work. I'm from South Africa where the state owned electricity provider hasn't been able to keep up with the demand for the last 20 years. This would be of great help to developing nations.
Hey thanks for commenting! Yes, we are definitely looking into ways we can make this more accessible for people. We are almost ready to start taking preorders but we’ve got a little bit more of the system we want to button up and make sure it’s just right before we start accepting payments. Tell me, how would you go about employing this technology so that we get it into the hands of people who need it most?
@@CharlieSolis thanks for the reply. Most of the people that can afford it here in SA already have inverters with lithium batteries because we have rolling blackouts here scheduled for 2-4 hours (for now) 3 times a day. It is only the middle class, upper class and businesses that can afford to go solar. So I beleve this system would literally be bought millions of time over just in South Africa alone. That's without the government's subsidising for now. I understand that you would have to make sure you have a solid product before launch and I think this can be as revolutionary as home computing or the iPhone even more comparably, the light bulb or the internal combustion engine.
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😬 yeah pex A is where it’s at. Those expansion tools… 😮💨 pricey. But once you have that it’s super convenient. Honestly I like that I can take it apart and reuse the fittings if I take them apart right with a heat gun. Obviously not reuse the rings but you get what I mean. I’ve made so many different systems with these same fittings. One of these days is going to just lathe and machine my own. The nerd in me wants stainless expansion fittings 🫣🫠
hey thanks for commenting and showing your love and support! ❤️🙏 it really helps with the algorithm! Awe you’re too kind, Paige! You’re making me blush now 😊 I’m just a dood in his garage trying to make this world better than when I got here. 🤓😬🙏❤️ But for real, please share any good memes you have! I’m always on the hunt for funny ones! 😂 Thanks again!
@Charlie Solis thrilled when I saw your post on ig sharing a pov of the pictures in your phone, not only coming from a mechanical side, but metaphysical too. I also heard ya'll a few times. I'm in Huntsville, AL and can't wait to see you doing events soon. Let me know if you're ever interested in joint meditation 🫶🏻
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😬❤️ thank you Thumper! Your advice on my last long video really made all the difference. It was very straight forward, clear, actionable advice. Thank you for all your support! It really keeps the wheels turning over here!
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@@Richard.blackburn working on that right now! if you want to get your hands dirty with a prototype of your own we are now selling versions of the 4.5in Tesla Turbine that we built during our video collab with @integza www.HeatAndPower.com
Between an assortment of like 50 different places on the interwebs. There’s also a scientific lab about a 1/2hour away from my house that I get a lot of stuff through. I’ve seriously wasted whole days of my life that I’ll never get back just scrolling through products on random websites looking for different parts 😅🤭
there was a weird forum post cant remember where that mentioned you could use the spiral distribution of fluid on the TT to actually use it as a turbine engine by feeding it an air fuel mixture from the edges that would flow down to the center , eventually the discs would match the flame velocity at the edge and you wouldnt need to reignite the fuel each time. wonder how real that claim is, so i figured i might as well ask you in the comments lol.
hey thanks for showing your love and support by commenting 🙏❤️ it really helps with the algorithm! Are you referring to Teslas Improved Combustion + steam turbine patent GB 186,083? (that he patented in 1921, 10 years after the original turbine patent and about a decade of R&D)
The second half of this video I do a walk through of the combustion system and recoup boiler. Solis Talks Cold Steam Tesla Turbines - Nikola Tesla’s Electrical Power System + Patent GB 186,083 th-cam.com/video/5Y3D13JmtcA/w-d-xo.html
And then this is my replication thus far of at least one of the burners and steam mixing tubes. I’ve tested both gaseous and liquid fuels (propane and gasoline) still to test out waste oils and stuff. Tesla Turbine Jet Engine - gasoline fuel burner atomizer flame tube test 186,083 propane burner th-cam.com/video/gRqKowignac/w-d-xo.html
And lastly, as far as air fuel mixing I have a design for a Tesla pump multifuild vortex mixer. Tesla Compressor Multi-fluid Vortex Mixer & Steam Condenser - Air + Fuel Mixer Carburetor Atomizer th-cam.com/video/qLBqbBPikcc/w-d-xo.html
@@CharlieSolis was mostly referring to the possibility of using a direct flame contact and even detonation to drive the turbine, using a startup to get the vorticity going inside the cavity and get that nice almost laminar flow of air fuel mix, and making it combust in a spiral from the edges into the center
Also for a cheap electrical feed through could you just connect to the tank for ground and then put a copper plate with a gasket that has electrical connections soldered to it and bolt it on in a 360 encapsulating pattern
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Here's an idea for the electrical pass-thru into the vac chamber. Remove the insides of an old vacuum gauge. Machine a Teflon puck that just fits the empty housing, drill 2 holes straight into the visible face and link them up with angles holes from a single point on the side, where the wires will be routed down through the pipe and into the chamber. Silicone the inside walls of the gauge housing and then press in the prefabbed puck, lining up the hole in the edge with the pipe. Route wires up through the pipe and out through the holes in the face (use fishing line or something to pull the wires through). Connect the wires to your terminals, silicone the holes, set the terminals in and wait for it to cure. You could adapt this to some other design that feeds through the vac gauge port.
@@CharlieSolis I was gonna suggest just using the tube off a vac gauge, running the wires through and sealing with JB weld, for a simpler solution that doesn't involve modifying the chamber.
This was honestly more of a “what materials I could find to make it” and “what I could even fit onto my cnc machine bed.” Than a case of “what I would have made if I could have from scratch.” I also wanted to bring down the rpm of the turbine by going with a larger diameter disc.
It was also helpful to make one close to the size of tesla’s 9-3/4 in discs in the turbine that they tested at the Edison plant so I could get a comparison of power out.
Thanks for the reply. This is awesome. Maybe I missed this but have you looked into adding a pump on the shaft of the turbine. I read somewhere it can increase efficiency. I apologize if you have done this already great work Cheers from Canada
@@shawnrobinson368 hey Shawn no worries. Yes I have! I’ve got a video on one of my designs for that has the condenser/ heat exchanger between the turbine and the pump. Check it out! Tesla Turbine - InterStage Heat Exchanger (ISHE) - Heat Pump & Inverted Brayton Cycle Improvements th-cam.com/video/pYSniitC8DM/w-d-xo.html
@@shawnrobinson368 if you’d like more information on the thermodynamics check out the Inverted Brayton Cycle! en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inverted_Brayton_cycle
hey thanks for commenting. 🙏❤️🔥 I really appreciate the love and support. So just to be clear I do have a degree in physics and many years of working with industrial machines. And now I don’t want to discourage you but I need to be abundantly clear though that sadly, these are not toys. They are VERY dangerous if not designed or handled properly. I do not advise anyone who doesn’t already have a background in mech engineering/physics etc. to attempt to make one of them on their own. If you wouldn’t feel comfortable taking apart a jet engine and putting it back together and know that it would work properly again then I would think twice about taking on this endeavor. That being said, If you would like to start I would suggest by consuming as many mechanical engineering class videos as you can on TH-cam. Learn all the thermodynamics behind steam and gas turbines. Specifically for Tesla turbines it requires a great deal more chemistry due to the Tesla turbine operating on molecular viscous adhesive forces between the fluid and discs and not in mechanical collisions with the blades like traditional blades turbine. So making sure to have the right surface treatments for the proper motive fluid is very important too. “Don’t French fry when you’re supposed to pizza or you’re gonna have a bad time.”
@@CharlieSolis thank you for the drop of information and yes I may not be very experienced but I will do my research and absorb and much information about this device and how it works. It would be very dumb of me to just toss one together out of the blue and run it in steam. Don’t worry about it too much but you do inspire me to looking into educating myself further.
i wish you the best in your search. i have been looking for a solar steam generator to make my own electric. this is the closest i have found so far. it seems to be well worth the cost, compared to electric panels, but no one has broke down the cost for me to compare. i especially like that use of the tesla turbine. i know it's got low speed torque, and i'm always thinking ???? when people say it doesn't have good torque. so i'm glad you made that clear. then i hear it is not as effecient as the turbines we use in industry today. but i don't know about cost. i have no way of comparing cost of tesla turbine, logevity, cost of ueage over time. all i know is that it was tesla's one most favorite invention. he thought it was the key to flight and other things and it was not being used.
What are the pros/cons of using steam instead of compressed air? I've been dreaming up a system that would use wind power (Midwest USA) to turn a compressor. I'm thinking of using super-high pressure carbon fiber air tanks to run a tesla turbine. Magnetic bearings and magnetic gearboxes would be used to cut out energy loss as much as possible. Biomass would be a really neat option, so I'm not ruling out steam yet. Thanks for your work and expertise. I love the energy you are bringing to this project!
Hey will! Thanks for reaching out. So both steam and compressed air are equally viable just different ways to do it. Steam Rankine cycle would be from heat sources only and compressed air could be from a windmill with additional heat to aid in the Brayton cycle. Whichever is chosen the disc stack needs to be designed for the fluids adhesion to the discs. Steam being s polar molecule adheres to metallic objects more. Whereas compressed air is mostly non-polar molecules, O2, N2, CO2, etc. so different surface treatments may be desired, like hydrophobic coatings to allow for the non polar air to adhere to the discs more. Or hydroPHILLIC surface treatments for steam to further increase the adhesion. Some people might not want to deal with the compressor. But I know the Amish use windmills to compress air and store it very very large tanks for powering their wood shops and fans around their shops for cooling, also from the expansion cooling. You will need a LOT of tanks for storing enough energy though and high pressure tanks are really the only way to feasibly go if you don’t have a farm to bury massive tanks. So the thermal mass storage with the steam is a matter of footprint and safety being at low pressure/atmospheric pressure. Compressed air will hold its energy longer though as heat will invariably radiate, conduct away from the hot tanks over time even with good insulation. My plan is to replicate Nikola Tesla’s improved combustion + steam turbine patent GB 186,083, used with a condenser and high vacua pump to do the full high pressure high temp Rankine plus inverted Brayton cycle. So it’s a combination of both the compressed air with heat and steam with heat all in one system. Tesla really nailed it with that patent. I’ve got a walk through video in it if you’re interested I can share it. But anyway there are lots of reason to do one system or the other, pros and cons for both, it will come down to individual preferences and capacities of each end user.
These are a couple videos to specifically watch. Make sure to check out the latest updates on the combustion + steam Tesla turbine builds! Solis Talks Tesla Turbines - Nikola Tesla’s Electrical Power Systems Patent GB 186,083 Walk Through th-cam.com/video/5Y3D13JmtcA/w-d-xo.html Tesla Turbine Jet Engine - gasoline fuel burner atomizer flame tube test 186,083 propane burner th-cam.com/video/gRqKowignac/w-d-xo.html Tesla Turbine 250 watt to 2.65 kW Power and Efficiency Test th-cam.com/video/K7qZvq1CMFg/w-d-xo.html +5 Horsepower Tesla Turbine Dyno Jet Turbo Power & Torque Curve 375 mph @ 125 00 rpm HIGH SCORE! th-cam.com/video/exF5Rn-L8gs/w-d-xo.html
Check out this video also on Amish Compressed Air Energy Storage (CAES)! Blew my mind! I didn’t know they did that until recently when looking up air engine stats to compare my TesTur to. th-cam.com/video/Oc0b4aBOyBw/w-d-xo.html
This is a good paper on Compressed air energy storage. Definitely worth the read. www.lowtechmagazine.com/2018/05/ditch-the-batteries-off-the-grid-compressed-air-energy-storage.html
@@CharlieSolis Thank you very much for all the resources! I'm excited to learn more about what's possible. I'm leaning toward the compressed air tanks since it will be on a farm with lots of excavation happening. I'm a few years out from being able to prototype, so I'm just gathering resources. You're awesome. Thank you
Just found your channel and I'm loving it. Sorry if this is a noobish question but what do you want to do with the electrical feed through? If it's to get sensor data on the speed of the turbine and no need to pass a lot of power through then you might do will with a micro processor with low power wireless and a battery. Maybe and induction coil to power it if you want to run it for a long time but I'd imagine you tear this thing down fairly regularly. A lot of microprocessors are designed to consume bugger all power when they are asleep these days, even a small lipo battery can last a long time.
Hey David! Thanks for commenting! It really helps with the algorithm! So for the vacuum feed through we specifically need it to pass the generator power wires from the inside to the outside. So potentially 250-350amps current through with the 12v up to 4000watts.
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@@CharlieSolis Nicola doesn't get the recognition he deserves. You have the child of light's footsteps to follow that could lead you to very amazingly bright places. Continue on your path my friend. I'm very proud another member of humanity is continuing Nicola's legacy . Thank you Charlie, Thank you.. I don't think you realize how revolutionary this is. The powers at be, the powers thriving off of non-renewable resources will try to stop you. It will buy your patent and shelve it so it will never see the light of day again. It has happened many times before. There are many great minds who have watched their creations be killed. Don't be one of those people. Please stay true to yourself and humanity and let no one take this from you. Nikola Tesla wanted to GIVE his gift to humanity, of free wireless power.. a stop was put to it when the realization of non-monetary profit gains for the people invested in oil and coal was in the horizon. The same goes for countless inventions that could greatly benefit the human race. But the knowledge of their existence never reach the public eye because of greed. They were bought and destroyed. Please make this a reality my friend and let NOTHING stand in your way. Now you've shown the world what your up to, their coming for it... You have just become the enemy to their fortune... Best of luck to you my friend, stay true to thy self. The literal future of humanity is in your hands. Treat it well.
For your next project you should research the wardenclifff Tower and see if you can make it a reality as Nikola dreamed. All I know is he used underground aquaphors and the ionosphere. He wirelessly lit a light bulb over a mile away off of a 110 outlet. It is believed by many that the pyramids of the Giza plateau and the obelisk ALL OVER the world are part of a similar ancient system . You're a smart feller.. figure it out lol
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I'm interested in motorsport performance applications of a Tesla turbine (less lossy forced induction). Heat exchanger on exhaust manifold and Tesla turbine replacing either the impeller side of a turbo or both the impeller and compressor. Not sure if Tesla turbine can sustain higher pressure as a compressor. Figured you were the man to ask, you think this is feasible?
I really appreciate you taking the time to leave me a comment, it means a lot to me and it helps increase my visibility on the algorithm. I’m glad you’re interested in learning more about my project, I’ve put a lot of work into it Yes I absolutely do think this is possible. I’m working on the design of the multistage Tesla compressor and high vacua pump right now, in fact. Thanks again for your support, and if you want to help me out even more, please consider donating to my Patreon page or any of the places on my linktree in my bio, it will help me to continue my project. Your support is greatly appreciated.
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It’s wayyyyy less expensive. Can handle particulates and multiphase fluid. Can be used for low grade heat. Very durable, easy to maintain, can be powered with renewables like solar, geothermal, biomass. Whatever heat in the turbine isn’t converted to electricity can be used for heating your home. Affordable enough to be put in every home.
I would also like to be excused for my ignorance. Is this system capable of producing more power than say a traditional solar/wind collection to a battery bank with DC inverters? Totally off topic but if you haven't seen the movie "primer" then check it out!
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Yoooo! Amazing progress, the turbine sounds incredible in vacuum, and that violent boiling was just incredibly exciting, not to mention your pressure relief lever hahaha, so sick! Can't wait to see more. Just thinking about your feedthrough problem, there's always uber expensive solutions whenever you utter the words "feedthrough" I experienced the same thing when I was trying to figure out how to lift a basket up and down out of oil in my vacuum fryer and made the mistake of even considering paying for an expensive feedthrough! I just bent some CS rods inside of SS tubing, sealed it shut, attached it to the basket with SS wire wrap and used magnets to lift it. But I digress, can't you drill a hole and use a cable gland? Besides the standard nylon ones for weatherproofing and strain relief, there are tougher metal glands on top of there being another class called sealing glands and should easily be able to pass a multiconductor cable while withstanding a paltry 13psi vacuum. I think sealing glands are advertised as going as high as 150 psi and are used in harsh environments. I mean the manifold that BVV includes with their chambers already uses half of what a cable gland uses. Threaded body, locknut on the inside, and flat rubber washer on the outside to make seal. Check it out!
hey thanks for showing your love and support by commenting 🙏❤️ it really helps with the algorithm! So not quite. The condenser is first evacuated to create the pressure differential between the boiler and the condenser which causes the steam to force its way through the turbine into the evacuated condenser. The vacuum is maintained in the condenser by the removal of heat from the steam in the condenser which causes it to change phase from a gas to a liquid. In doing so it’s volume decreases significantly which maintains the vacuum in the condenser. If there are any leaks to the system you will have to continuously remove the non condensable gasses but depending on your system system size and quality leaks will be negligible.
The pot on top is mostly just so I could be lazy and not fully seal the turbine casing to vacuum and also have the exhaust fully sealed to vacuum. 😅 Instead I just put the whole thing into a vacuum chamber that is open to the condenser. 🤓🤷♂️ In the end I will also have cooling water going over the top of the pot to further aid in condensing the exhaust of the turbine.
Hey thanks for the kind words! Much appreciated! If I’m being honest bearings aren’t really an issue. The nozzles perfectly balance the radial load on the turbine and there’s no axial loads. This doesn’t need to spin more than 15,000 rpm and which is still under what most motorcycles rev out to. And all my load tests were done under 12,000 rpm. Not to mention this 10in diameter turbine is designed for being capable of up to 500kW (1/2 a Megawatt) at full temp/pressure, disc number and stages. The preliminary tests are just to see how much electrical power can be produced with room temp compressed air and low temp steam driving the Tesla turbine. The TesTur nozzles never went over 20psi at the nozzle for the 2650watt electrical load test and not over 40psi at the nozzle for the 4250watt dyno test. (Compressed air) This is so I can get a baseline for what to expect as I increase the temps to combustion levels. When using elastic gasses the counterintuitive thing most overlook is that the viscosity of gasses goes up with temp. So not only do we see an increase in thermodynamic efficiency from increased temps but the TesTur isentropic efficiency also goes up due to the reduced slip from the increased viscosity. I’m any case residential units never need more than 10kW really so we are well within the range for this little one and that’s all still without any real heat addition to do real work.
@@VergilArcanis I appreciate your comment but that’s not an issue because, despite what everyone erroneously claims, Tesla turbines work just fine, get plenty of torque and output power at low RPMs. I’ve got some copy pasta 🍝 of mine that I’ll share with ya here to explain more. Tesla turbines aren’t made efficient by spinning really fast. That’s only for when the disc stack is being used as a centrifugal pump, because ALL centrifugal pumps’ compressors, performance is tip speed dependent. But spinning the turbine fast will produce a centrifugal head that opposes the incoming fluid flow, reducing the pressure gradient across the nozzle, reducing fluid final velocity, reducing mass flow rates through the nozzle and ultimately reducing power out.
@@VergilArcanis Furthermore the faster you spin them the faster the fluid you have has to go just to still be moving faster than the discs and still provide torque. Lastly, they work just fine for industrial use and can scale up just fine because the torque on the discs is proportional to the difference in the fluid speed and the disc speed. So the disc tip speed is the important factor here. For any given fluid supply in, the bozzle will have a max fluid velocity. So the turbine disc tips will have a max speed set at that fluid speed irrelevant if radius. Now considering that centripetal force is proportional to V^2/R, if you keep the tip speed the same but increase the radius the centripetal forces on the disc for the speeds needed will actually decrease.
A threaded well should work fine. Get someone to tig one in wherever you need it. The probe will screw in. You can get prox switches with a full threaded body to sense the pickups. Screw them in to the desired insertion depth then double nut them.
Hey thanks! If you’re interested in getting on our email list for updates in the future when we’ll have one available for purchase shoot us an email at TesTurEnergy@gmail.com But in the mean time I need to make sure this design is bullet proof before I suggest other people replicate my design. If you’re looking for some more hardcore information on the TesTur physics to sink your teeth into, do some scrolling through my community post page. I have a bunch of really good posts on there that I wrote. I dove into the physics and dispel a lot of myths.
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Hey thanks for commenting! Any permanent magnet motor can be used as a generator. Just pick the right Kv rating (rpm/volt) and/or gear it so that it’s outputting the desired voltage when the turbine is spinning at the desired RPM.
Hey! That’s still to be determined! But I know from previous power loss tests that at about the RPMs the turbine was spinning at the turbine sees about 1-2hp loss from the bearings and 2 cheapo RC car gears. So with the direct on shaft generator setup I will be switching to, those losses will be available for power out. Also just the mere fact that the turbine was accelerating means there was available torque for power out. Change in rotational kinetic energy (joules) per some unit time (sec) is by definition work done/power out (watts=j/s) So between fixing the mechanical losses in the turbine and the available torque represented by acceleration the “Real” power currently being lost will then be available for power out. This was just a preliminary debut/showing of the very first start up of the system and then where I’m at as far as next steps. I need to make a good electrical through connection and we we will be ready to rock and roll for power tests!
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Hey thanks for asking! Yup that’s one of the applications we’re shooting for! With TesTur Energy, we’re committed to empowering individuals with energy autonomy through our Combined Heat And Power (CHP) solutions. Our systems are uniquely designed to harness overlooked energy resources like biomass, solar thermal, and geothermal, as well as unconventional fuels rich in solid particulates-think sawdust, pulverized coal, or powdered iron. Traditionally, these alternative energy sources and fuels have been underexploited due to the limitations of existing turbines and engines. These systems often can’t manage the complex fluid flows-mixtures of gases, liquids, and solid particles-that are characteristic of low-grade heat boilers and unconventional fuels. But our technology changes that, enabling sustained, damage-free operation even in these challenging conditions. www.HeatAndPower.com www.TesTurEnergy.com Let me know if you have any questions! Cheers mate!
Did made something like that over twenty years ago. But a lot more crude. I also use the condensor as a heat exhanger that is heating a 3000 liter boiler , a 500 liter boiler for the use of hot water. Indirect i heat my floor with it and several radiators. In a weekend i can make the electricity meter go back to zero. Not actually zero but i can generate enough power what we did use during the week. Yours is way more refined. In an entire month it uses 1 m3 of wood. But it has no use to generate more electricity. And with the 3000 liter boiler i can heat my entire home every day. Not when it gets below below 0 degrees. But i have 4 other woodstoves also. Used a woodstove from the brand Flam as the heating chamber. And an old very thick walled boiler on top of that. Sadly it makes way to much noise. Tried a lot of insulation. It helps but not enough. I know that it is very illegal in my country. We have strict laws for using pressured steam. And to be honest it is also very logical because when it goes then it goes. Around the boiler on top of the stove surrounded it with 8 mm steelplates. And made that stronger by welding 10 mm thick flat steel around it. On top of that is the connection for the exhaustpipe that has an inner diameter of 200 mm. The Flam stove has two 30 mm thick cast iron plates that are round. Connected in the middle to each other. Every plate has holes in it that functions as a venturi. And the plates can be turned on each other. By that creating a larger or tinier venturi for the air intake. When those venturi's are fully open and the stove is full with wood then the flames go 4 meters into the exhaust pipe and around the boiler / heat exhanger for boiling the water and creating steam. When the system is cold it only takes 15 minutes to get it fully working. And i constantly have to put in wood. I see large blocks vaporising before my eyes. And it becomes so hot that you have to distance yourself atleast two meter from the glas door. Through its entire life until know that stove burned thousends of M3 of wood. And it is so well made that it is still as new. A beautifull stove with a big ass ugly farkle on top of it. That probably one day will kill us all. Made a safety 6/4 inch thick walled tube to the outside. When i turn the valve steam comes outside of my house. And although my closed neighbours are 800 meters away they still get a bit mad when i have to do that. Luckily not often because the sound of escaping steam makes them deaf even at 800 meters. And getting to much attention is also not good. For sure i have hearing damage from the time alone that i was experimenting. And whenever i will sell my hone i will break it down. To be sure that noone after me will one day get killed. Cause you constantly have to need your focus on it while it operates. A few times i have been looking into batteries. So we could get rid of the electricity company. But that is still today not a good option. Even when buying cheap 18650 elements and spotwelding them the costs are still way to high. When you want to have enough juice to power everything in your home. I know that my generator has a lot of design flaws. That it all could be made a lot better but until know it functions and when people bring me waste-wood it saves a lot of money. And 80 percent of the year it heats my entire home. A bit to large home. The roof is 1450 M2. Impossible to heat that with gas or electricity. If i would have the energy i would build a new one. But after 70 years that has gone. Would be great in the future to go out with a big bang. And it keeps my visiting family away in the weekends. So it is still a win / win situation. That monster is placed in the kitchen. And can't check how thick the metal still is. After so many years here and there it probably has got some weak spots. And can you be really sure that pressure safety valves will kick in the way they should ? It is all mechanical. A bit jealous about the modern intelligent kids who also have access to tools that i back then could only dream of. And happy to see that a lot of people are getting back into steam. 🙏
Have you ever checked out those rotary steam generators. They produces steam through rotation. They use cavitation to produce steam. You have to be careful with cavitation as it does produce radiation, but I believe that would be more efficient than using an resistive electrical heater.
Hey thanks for commenting! ❤️🔥🙏 Yes! Check out my design for an improved construction and manufacturing method for them! Solis Cavitation Heater - Simple & Improved Construction Griggs Hydrosonic Steam Water Pump th-cam.com/video/zbd50_hOy0U/w-d-xo.html Cheers mate!
F yeah we could hear it! Jeez. Almost sounded there for a bit like it had no ceiling. Curious: What enclosure are the blades in to where you are safe standing right there? Or are you safe? Also, where is all of the water going if it is a sealed system like I am assuming? I know you said that heat comes off the cooling tower, but I thought that was radiant.
Hey Benny! Thanks for commenting! I really appreciate it. So the turbine is inside of an aluminum and 1/2in thick polycarbonate casing with 1in thick periphery. The turbine is then inside the aluminum vacuum chamber. I should probably also have a blast shield but these discs should be safe up to at least 7,000-9,000rpm and this won’t be going much over 3,000-4,000 rpm for the 12v output tests coming up soon. After the turbine the steam goes into the condenser. In this video I did not have a boiler feedwater/condensate return pump. So the water just went from the boiler and stayed in the condenser. That being said I’m testing out the pump I just installed for making it a full closed loop Rankine cycle system be be able to recycle the water from the condenser back into the boiler. And if this pump doesn’t work it’s just a matter of putting the right one in. 🤷♂️ Alongside this I’ve also installed a boiler feed water preheater that heats up the returning condensate with the now heated cooling water leaving the the condenser to give it back the last bit of heat from the hottest part, of the condenser just after the turbine for some efficiency increase, just before sending the water to the fountain for giving off the heat. It won’t be much at these temp ranges but at least it’ll serve as a proof of concept but it’ll be ready for combustion temp once I’m there. This can keep the “cooling water” loop in the condenser at a higher pressure so that it can go up to higher temps and not boil before reaching the fountain and releasing up the riser column more efficiently with the higher temperature gradient. That or use a liquid with a higher boiling point than water for the cooling but that seems messy and complicated.
Impressive engineering!!! Have you considered putting permanent magnets on the turbine shaft and having the magnetic flux jump the pressure barrier through a glass or plastic wall? Or putting the whole PMA inside the pressurized system and only bringing the wires out?
I love love love this. Through a glass roof on your house to concentrate heat with a dirt cheap concave mylar emergency blanket lense and you've got solar CHP for life for pennies.
Hey thanks for commenting! I don’t know the flow rates just yet but I will be determining that with the next round of tests. As for the solar thermal collector, it will be different for each location, But for comparison Of the sun’s light energy that hits the earth 10% is UV, 25% is in the visible spectrum, and a whopping 65% of it is in the infrared, heat, spectrum. Solar PV cells can only use a portion of the visible spectrum and use none of the IR spectrum and in fact lose efficiency from heating up from the IR. So at best you can get maybe 20% of the suns total light energy to electricity to charge and discharge a battery at 90%. So only 18% of the suns light energy gets to your wall plug. And then UV light makes them go opaque and be at 1/2 their rated power in 10 years. So, conservatively down to 10% of the suns light gets turned into electricity 10 years in. With solar thermal collectors you can collect all 25% of the visible spectrum and all 65% of the IR spectrum and store it as heat in a thermal mass. So 90% of the suns light energy can be collected and stored as heat in a thermal mass. Let’s say 10% loss on storage So 81% of the suns light energy is then available to be put through a steam Rankine turbine system, which at theoretical best can get 25-33% thermal efficiency to electricity. 44% is the recorded best (And that’s without any thermal recoup, boiler feedwater preheat, etc to bring up the Rankine cycle efficiency and/or going to an organic Rankine cycle with a refrigerant in the closed loop instead of steam for higher pressure gradients with the same temp gradient, for high efficiency) So that’s 20-26% of the suns light energy can be put directly out as 60hz 120vAC. About a 10-45% increase in energy out for the same footprint of collectors. And then even after that ALL the heat energy rejected/dumped out by the condenser from the latent heat of condensation and loss not turned into electrical power can then be used for home heating. Sooo since about 60% of the energy stored goes out the condenser, if it’s used for heating then somewhere like 70-80% of the suns total light energy can be utilized for electricity and heating. So it will depend on the isentropic efficiency of the turbine and overall thermal to electrical of the system and whether or not heating is needed. The benefit to this is that on non sunny days the thermal mass storage system can be “charged” with biomass. And PV system have no back up options.
I know of people using simple spark plugs as electrical feed throughs on a vacuum deposition chambers for semiconductor research. You just break of the ground electrode and use the center electrode for the feed through. If you intend to transfer significant amounts of electricity, rather than just sensor data, you need to use conductive core (old style) spark plugs without the resistive material designed for radio interference suppression.
Incredible work, what are the main drwabacks you are having? I would love to help with what I can, I am actually building my own, although I am taking a different route since my plan is to use the tesla turbine to power an electric motor and move a small car!
Hey thanks for commenting! So really the only drawbacks I’m having at the moment are just issues with machining stuff to high tolerance with the cheap cnc machines I’ve got. But even then it’s still working amazingly. I’ve got some copy pastas 🍝 I’ll add to here for ya too. As far as efficiency goes… (mind you this is a copy pasta 🍝 so it’s a bit long but it’s worth the read.) My 2650watt electrical load run came in with a very low ball calculation of 40% isentropic efficiency. To start off, mind you that includes generator losses, 3 phase rectifier losses, and inverter losses to the electrical load that were not accounted for. So the turbine off the bat is already most definitely doing better than the 40% isentropic efficiency I’ve calculated from the already low ball test results. But for now I’ll just assume 40% isentropic efficiency so that I’m not over claiming what I can prove it can actually do for the time being. (I have nothing in the long run to benefit by overstating my numbers and only my legitimacy to lose. I’ve worked hard for my physics degree and don’t intend to tarnish it for a couple of extra views on the internet.)
As far as inefficiencies to the system to fix, there’s 10x crappy ball bearings in this version, 2 crappy RC car gears, both losses will be gained for power out with a direct to shaft generator. (Minus two gears and 8 crappy ball bearings) There’s an 1/8 of an inch of space between the turbine endplates and the casing endplates on both sides of the TesTur. That’s a 1/4in of open flow area around the 2in wide turbine (that only even has a total of 0.75in wide of spacing between all the tight disc spaces for torque to begin with.) That means 25% of the open space for flowing through the casing, between discs and between the casing and turbine endplates, is just free flow over the side of the turbine still. (I’m using the absolute bottom of the barrel of machining equipment right now in my garage 🤷♂️) There’s no labyrinth seals yet to even attempt to further reduce that overflow…
The nozzle is atrocious at the moment, when making the variable converging section have a tight convergence it causes the fluid jet to aim more centripetally (towards the axle) instead of tangentially (glancing off the disc tips) which severely effects the fluids natural path. This will be fixed with the new variable nozzle design I’m going with. Then even further in this specific casing’s assembly there’s two “pillars” in the middle of the nozzle. This is because the aluminum plates in the middle of the casing plate stack only had the variable nozzle bar and inlet holes cut out, and not the full nozzle geometry. So those pillars are just vertical bars in the middle of the nozzle for the air to smash into just before going into the turbine (hopefully the wet steam tests will just erode them down 🤭) Before all that there’s still about 100ft of air hose between the tanks and the turbine… plus a shell and tube heat exchanger and a TON of elbows and fittings. I’m sure I’m forgetting something too but between all that being fixed… I can almost guarantee we will be in the 60-70s % range and that’s all just still with room temp compressed air. Most forget, I’m using room temp compressed air and never went over 20psi at the nozzle for these tests. (Pressure differential and temperature differential govern efficiency)
And even then I still only even have a single stage on it yet. Everyone wants to compare it to the efficiency of a very high temp, high pressure (1000°F & ~1800psi) multibillion dollar 15-30 stage steam turbines… 😮💨 That’s apples to rocket ships. 😅 But considering Rankine Steam cycles get theoretical max about 33% of input heat (due to latent heat of condensation and that’s without any regenerative boiler feedwater preheat, air fuel preheat, etc) and then 40% isentropic efficiency (considering the turbine as is) we’re looking at 13.2% thermal efficiency with steam. A more apt comparison for the TesTur would be something an individual can actually purchase, like 1-5kW piston gas generators that you can get from Home Depot or Lowe’s. These get 15-22% thermal efficiency off the plant floor. Good luck getting that 1 year down the line or later with all those moving parts. Also for reference, industry standard for micro bladed gas turbines is 25% thermal to electrical. Whole system efficiency can go higher in Combined Heat and Power (CHP) system, but alas the TesTur would see the same whole system efficiency increase in a CHP Auxiliary Power Unit (APU). In the TesTur you gotta replace…? 🤔bearings…? And still even then, only maybe 🤷♂️ depending on how good of bearings, balance, lubing, cooling. The TesTur, and other bladed turbines, only have one moving part. 🔥
So if those piston generators drop efficiency, even at all, the TesTur on its worst day is competitive with a gasoline piston engine electric generator.🤓😬🤷♂️ And the TesTur can handle any fuel that can burn, even solid particulate fuels like powdered saw dust, pulverized coal, powdered iron, biomass, etc. (noting the number of those that can be acquired for free… 🤑 opening up “Monetarily free”, even carbon neutral, fuel options for MILLIONS around the world) We have to remember that the TesTur doesn’t have to be the holy grail to be worth using if we have free fuels readily available like biomass, and even waste heat already being dumped out into the air and not used for anything. The TesTur just has to be a viable option for some to be worth doing.
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Interesting setup. One concern I would have is the cooling of the electric generators. In a vacuum, you're basically relying on the conduction through to keep the insulation from melting. No convection :( . Not sure if you thought of that, if you did mention it in the video, my apologies, I didn't have time to watch in entirety.
@@JonPrevost hey thanks for commenting. 🙏❤️🔥 So in the latest setup I have cooling water jetting onto the generators themselves. Which is great because if the generators are over the boiling point they the water will rapidly remove heat from them via the latent heat of vaporization, even better than any air or even just water cooling. I would like to make the generator boil off actually go to the nozzle in a final build to just recoup the any energy (it won’t be great but it’s something 🤷♂️) to add back to the torque output. Thanks again for commenting!
Great Job Charlie. Got me interested in building your solar cryophorus system and make it fit in my tiny residential backyard of 12m by 3m and with low ambient noise to enable good relationship with close neighbours here in Victoria Australia.
Hilarious watching Charlie explain the various complexities. Question, If you put a heating element in a tank of water and cranked the temperature to 600C (or whatever modern turbines run at) what percentage of power would you get back with your machine and how would that efficiency compare with a typical power plant?
As far as efficiency goes… (mind you this is a copy pasta 🍝 so it’s a bit long but it’s worth the read.) …My 2650watt electrical load run came in with a very low ball calculation of 40% isentropic efficiency. To start off, mind you that includes generator losses, 3 phase rectifier losses, and inverter losses to the electrical load that were not accounted for. So the turbine off the bat is already most definitely doing better than the 40% isentropic efficiency I’ve calculated from the already low ball test results. But for now I’ll just assume 40% isentropic efficiency so that I’m not over claiming what I can prove it can actually do for the time being. (I have nothing in the long run to benefit by overstating my numbers and only my legitimacy to lose. I’ve worked hard for my physics degree and don’t intend to tarnish it for a couple of extra views on the internet.)
As far as inefficiencies to the system to fix, there’s 10x crappy ball bearings in this version, 2 crappy RC car gears, both losses will be gained for power out with a direct to shaft generator. (Minus two gears and 8 crappy ball bearings) There’s an 1/8 of an inch of space between the turbine endplates and the casing endplates on both sides of the TesTur. That’s a 1/4in of open flow area around the 2in wide turbine (that only even has a total of 0.75in wide of spacing between all the tight disc spaces for torque to begin with.) That means 25% of the open space for flowing through the casing, between discs and between the casing and turbine endplates, is just free flow over the side of the turbine still. (I’m using the absolute bottom of the barrel of machining equipment right now in my garage 🤷♂️) There’s no labyrinth seals yet to even attempt to further reduce that overflow…
The nozzle is atrocious at the moment, when making the variable converging section have a tight convergence it causes the fluid jet to aim more centripetally (towards the axle) instead of tangentially (glancing off the disc tips) which severely effects the fluids natural path. This will be fixed with the new variable nozzle design I’m going with. Then even further in this specific casing’s assembly there’s two “pillars” in the middle of the nozzle. This is because the aluminum plates in the middle of the casing plate stack only had the variable nozzle bar and inlet holes cut out, and not the full nozzle geometry. So those pillars are just vertical bars in the middle of the nozzle for the air to smash into just before going into the turbine (hopefully the wet steam tests will just erode them down 🤭) Before all that there’s still about 100ft of air hose between the tanks and the turbine… plus a shell and tube heat exchanger and a TON of elbows and fittings. I’m sure I’m forgetting something too but between all that being fixed… I can almost guarantee we will be in the 60-70s % range and that’s all just still with room temp compressed air. Most forget, I’m using room temp compressed air and never went over 20psi at the nozzle for these tests. (Pressure differential and temperature differential govern efficiency)
And even then I still only even have a single stage on it yet. Everyone wants to compare it to the efficiency of a very high temp, high pressure (1000°F & ~1800psi) multibillion dollar 15-30 stage steam turbines… 😮💨 That’s apples to rocket ships. 😅 But considering Rankine Steam cycles get theoretical max about 33% of input heat (due to latent heat of condensation and that’s without any regenerative boiler feedwater preheat, air fuel preheat, etc) and then 40% isentropic efficiency (considering the turbine as is) we’re looking at 13.2% thermal efficiency with steam. A more apt comparison for the TesTur would be something an individual can actually purchase, like 1-5kW piston gas generators that you can get from Home Depot or Lowe’s. These get 15-22% thermal efficiency off the plant floor. Good luck getting that 1 year down the line or later with all those moving parts. Also for reference, industry standard for micro bladed gas turbines is 25% thermal to electrical. Whole system efficiency can go higher in Combined Heat and Power (CHP) system, but alas the TesTur would see the same whole system efficiency increase in a CHP Auxiliary Power Unit (APU). In the TesTur you gotta replace…? 🤔bearings…? And still even then, only maybe 🤷♂️ depending on how good of bearings, balance, lubing, cooling. The TesTur, and other bladed turbines, only have one moving part. 🔥
Hello, I am fascinated by your work. I am very familiar with the tesla turbine design, and have an engineering background, career degree blah. So I do not need the explanation of how that aspect works and I have understood your design aspects with respect to the turbine. I was reading on an insta post you were estimating 40% efficiency with room for more. I am curious as you mentioned the calculation was somewhere on your YT. Could you share it? Like I mentioned you have my attention. Have you laid out the design on a flow chart? I assume you have, but I have not seen it drawn out and it might be helpful for folks to understand what your doing. Thanks
Hey Duckman56, thanks for reaching out! I can certainly share that with ya. Make sure to check out the latest updates on the combustion + steam Tesla turbine builds! Tesla Turbine 250 watt to 2.65 kW Power and Efficiency Test th-cam.com/video/K7qZvq1CMFg/w-d-xo.html +5 Horsepower Tesla Turbine Dyno Jet Turbo Power & Torque Curve 375 mph @ 12,000 rpm th-cam.com/video/exF5Rn-L8gs/w-d-xo.html Solis Talks Tesla Turbines - Nikola Tesla’s Electrical Power Systems Patent GB 186,083 Walk Through th-cam.com/video/5Y3D13JmtcA/w-d-xo.html Tesla Turbine Jet Engine - gasoline fuel burner atomizer flame tube test 186,083 propane burner th-cam.com/video/gRqKowignac/w-d-xo.html Steam Tesla Turbine Micro Power Plant - 1st Start Up th-cam.com/video/aMYyBsjhBR4/w-d-xo.html instagram.com/reel/ClqGwiDDRSN/?igshid=ZmMyNmFmZTc= Let me know when ya get through that and I can help explain it! 🤓🙏❤️
@@CharlieSolis made it through last night and I appreciate the direction with the links. If you don't already have them a Playlist would be helpful since there is so much content with build and troubleshooting, but also the point where you show the data. Seeing the data made me want to dig deeper. If you have it setup already disregard the message. Anyway, awesome work! I had seen the update turbine patent a while ago and was impressed you referenced it a year or so ago. However back then there was a lot of things you were working through and It was not clear if the path would lead to an operating setup that could be tested. So I am extremely happy you responded and have been killing it. It is impressive the torque you're able to output. What have a 3:1 or 46:15 gear ratio? So you're output after gearing is 1/3 the torque and 3x the speed of the turbine? Is it due to the generators you're using, or is there some advantage to running that speed and lower torque? Also I was looking for the video because I wanted to make sure I heard you right but in another video you were mentioning axial or transverse Flux generators would allow you to eliminate the gearing. Now I know they have higher torque capacity, but they also generally run at lower rpm are there any that are able to run at 4000 rpm?
@@duckmn56 hey yay! I’m glad you like all that. 🤓 And thank you for watching my stuff as well. I really appreciate your interest in my work. yeah that’s a good idea I def should just put them in a quick playlist 😅 it would probably make them easier to go through and not have to click back to my comment just to get the next link. I have other playlists but not like that genera stack in small palatable playlist. So yeah I apologize for the disorganized nature of my channel. I’m just now starting to get the hang of this whole video making and editing process. So bear with me as the next few videos hopefully should be more clear cut. To get to the other part of what you wrote about, I’ll go through piece by piece. “What have a 3:1 or 46:15 gear ratio? So you're output after gearing is 1/3 the torque and 3x the speed of the turbine?” Yes the generators are spinning at ~3x the turbine rpm. “Is it due to the generators you're using, or is there some advantage to running that speed and lower torque?” The only reason I geared my TesTur up to generators what literally to spite everyone and their mother who DEMANDED that TesTurs “must be geared down to work because they get low torque and high rpm……..blah blah blah” 😅🤓😎 for real though, I knew TesTurs could get plenty of torque, even at low rpm, and I wanted their to be absolutely no question whether or not it could get more than enough Torque to not just be direct on shaft with the generators but also be geared up to a generators. So I went and geared them up to the generators. And now it works so well, and people see the gear, a bunch of the comments are “see you still had to gear the turbine down!……” 🤭🤷♂️ So this is by no means how I will be doing it in the future. As you mention I have plans for direct on shaft generator setups which will eliminate gears and bearings from the build. I’ll also say there was a little bit of “this was the easiest thing I could get to work” going on as the generators and gears are straight outta my RC car. 🚗 👨🔬 😂 Though my RC car is back together and I bought extra replacement ones to build it out the turbine to the 4 generators and I had to design and machine a custom gear hub for the gear to seat on the hex driveshaft. “Also I was looking for the video because I wanted to make sure I heard you right but in another video you were mentioning axial or transverse Flux generators would allow you to eliminate the gearing. Now I know they have higher torque capacity, but they also generally run at lower rpm are there any that are able to run at 4000 грm?” Yes I do have some old videos on the axial flux designs I put together but I believe I made a bunch of my old ones unlisted because they were just not made well nor were performing well. So I felt it best to unlist them. Though I may want to bring some back or just re-record them and post them 🤷♂️ idk we’ll see. Though they should still be watchable from any playlists that they are in, I will share a link to one of the axial flux videos of mine for you to watch in a follow up comment.
@@duckmn56 here’s one of the designs I had come up with a while ago for a dual stage axial flux direct on shaft exist flux generator set that go between the stages, (coincidentally in the same place that I have designed the “Interstage Heat Exchanger design”) Dual Stage Tesla Disc Turbine With Built In Dual In-Line Axial Flux Generators CAD/CAM Walk Through th-cam.com/video/FIkU8Gny8i8/w-d-xo.html And if you’re interested check out the, Tesla Turbine - InterStage Heat Exchanger (ISHE) - Heat Pump & Inverted Brayton Cycle Improvements th-cam.com/video/pYSniitC8DM/w-d-xo.html
@@duckmn56 as far as axial flux and rpm. Yes you can absolutely design a high rpm axial flux generator. They usually don’t make them and they are hard to find ever for high rpm simply because their are very few high rpm power generators that they would be put onto. Wind turbines are usually high torque low rpm, and even automotive piston engines that are usually paired with generators are considered high torque low rpm. It’s kind of a chicken and the egg situation. One industry designs their standard products to go onto another industries standard products. The windings in the axial flux generator just need to be adjusted to increase the Kv (RPM/Volt) rating of the axial flux generator. And on that note have you see Koenigsegg’s new “RAxial” flux generator/motors? 🤤🤤🤤 “Radial and axial flux” +300hp and only 33kg 🤯 th-cam.com/video/W39yEt4R-SU/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/fDmO5e-xQS0/w-d-xo.html
What if you implemented this turbine with modern heating or electrical grid systems. Do you thing it will work and give out same if not even more power?
Hey thanks for commenting, having the vacuum on the exhaust reduces the temps the steam or motive fluid will boil at. along with the larger the pressure difference between nozzle and exhaust the more available energy there is. This is how all steam power plants operate though to be clear. With a vacuum condenser on the exhaust if the turbine.
Strap a VSS( vehicle Speed Sending unit) on the outside of your motor generator. It will pick the field polarity and give you a heartbeat to read from a safe distance from the steam. Granted you will need to determine the ( electric) ratio. 3 2/3 ≠1 DC =3.66÷2 4pole DC = 4 Blcd=3.66÷3 4pole bldc= 3.66÷6 Ect
hey thanks for showing your love and support by commenting 🙏❤️ it really helps with the algorithm! Yup yup! That’s how I did it for my compressed air tests. I just take the frequency off of a single pole of the generator. And because the turbine is geared UP to the generators at 3.0666 to one. 4 pole motor (but you only divide by 2 for a 4 pole because a 2 pole does 1 cycle per Revolution 4 pole does 2 cycles per Revolution) Rpm = F * (1min/60sec) * 2 * 3.0666 = ~(1/10) * F So the rpm is pretty much 1/10th the frequency. It’s rather convenient while reading the frequency because it is all the correct significant figures.
The difficult part was getting a vacuum electrical feed through that will hold a seal well. I’ve since fixed that though. Check out the video I uploaded to my Instagram instagram.com/reel/ClqGwiDDRSN/?igshid=ZmMyNmFmZTc=
I'm a slow lb not a quick g . Sorry. Vac heating the genset sounds bad. What active cooling have you added to compensate for the loss of convective cooling . Amp ratings have to be adjusted to account for a vac environment. As the A raiting is in free air allowing convective cooling.
@@daviddroescher yup I’ll have cooling water going over each generator. But I’ll be wayyyy under powering them for the vacuum conditions, anyway. I only want 1kW out for now. And they are capable of doing 1500watts continuous each at 12v I’ll have 4 of them running at once in the end of these tests. Ultimately I will be going with a direct on shaft generator in the end though so things I’ll be changed a couple times before then. Just trying to price out different setups for what I can make easily vs what I would like to make if I had the resources. 🤷♂️
@@daviddroescher I also need bearing cooling for long term runs but I have a feeling because the boiling point is so low any condensate coming out of the turbine may help evaporatively cool the bearings, and maybe the generators too. 🤷♂️ although that may be pie in the sky asking too much Fromm the system. Either way cooling water is really easy. Just gotta bulkhead in and I can even let the vacuum pull it in for short term runs. And/or the condensate return/boiler feedwater pump can replenish the cooling water all the same.
Hey thanks for the comment! The final version will be much more simplified. I’m just building it this way for now so that I can have a hypermodular setup and change things as needed. But the final turn key system will be more compact.
Hello brother that's insane 🛐💀 Brother what if we use aerofoil flat shapes at the corner of discs as spacers. Due to laminar flow boundary layer will remains same and another force will be added due to aerofoil spacers at discs corners . Its my idea if you think it's good then i m gonna try this
In Tesla’s words. “In the practical application of mechanical power, based on the use of fluids as the vehicle of energy, it has been demonstrated that, in order to attain the highest economy, the changes in the velocity and direction of movement of the fluid should be as gradual as possible. In the forms of apparatus heretofore devised or proposed, more or less sudden changes, shocks and vibrations are unavoidable. Besides, the employment of the usual devices for imparting to, or deriving energy from a fluid, such as pistons, paddles, vanes and blades, necessarily introduces numerous defects and limitations and adds to the complication, cost of production and maintenance of the machines. The object of my invention is to overcome these deficiencies and to effect the transmission and transformation of mechanical energy through the agency of fluids in a more perfect manner and by means simpler and more economical than those heretofore employed. I accomplish this by causing the propelling fluid to move in natural paths or stream lines of least resistance, free from constraint and disturbance such as occasioned by vanes or kindred devices, and to change its velocity and direction of movement by imperceptible degrees, thus avoiding the losses due to sudden variations while the fluid is imparting energy.” My advice is to not use anything of the sort for added torque. If you design your TesTur correctly you won’t need the airfoils. The discs will work even better.
Thoughts on running the tesla turbine with liquid water and lowpressures? Also is the vacuum only in the chamber thats on the table or also somewhere else in the system, and what does it benefit? Edit: Also what material is your discs and whats the spacing on them?
Hey thanks for commenting. But I haven’t been posting to TH-cam because just about every video I post on here literally goes nowhere 🤷♂️ it’s not worth my time to go out of my way and post it on here. Though I’m posting everyday on my Instagram account @SolisHoods. I’m currently working on machining the turbines for the 17 orders we have of our 4.5In turbines that are for sale on our website www.HeatAndPower.com In the process I’ve made a bunch of improvements to the turbine casing and will be testing it out in the steam system very soon here. Stay tuned and check out all the work I’ve been posting about on IG I have over 300,000 followers over there. Most of mimosas get beteeen 30,000 up to a couple million views now. But I’ll post here to my 25,000 subscribers and TH-cam won’t even serve the same videos a thousand times let alone get a couple hundred views. At best. 🤷♂️ and I’m talking about videos that blew up on IG. It’s just not worth the time to even put stuff on here though I’m slowly posting more of what I haven’t posted on here.
Hey thanks for commenting! Great question! When we use a Tesla turbine for steam, having a vacuum on the exhaust side serves a couple of important purposes. Firstly, it helps in increasing the overall efficiency of the system. The vacuum effectively lowers the pressure at the exhaust, which allows the steam to expand more and thus transfer more of its thermal energy into mechanical energy as it passes through the turbine. Secondly, by maintaining a vacuum, we can ensure a more constant and higher speed of the steam flowing through the turbine. This can further improve the performance of the turbine and the energy output. Lastly this lowers the temperature at which the boiler side of the turbine can actually boil at and make steam for still producing power out. Typical bladed steam turbines cannot handle the wet steam at these lowest pressure and temp ranges as they would destroy the blades from the condensate/water droplets in suspension with the steam. Though I’m the Tesla turbine thin condensation of the H2O into microscopic liquid droplets actually increases the bulk viscosity and adhesive forces of the motive fluid to the disc faces for reduced slip on the discs. Additionally this actually allows further use of the condensates final kinetic energy for power out before leaving the turbine. Potentially allowing this system to achieve higher than typical Rankine cycle systems. I hope that clears up your query. Feel free to ask if you have any more questions! Best, Charlie
@@CharlieSolis do you have a video explaining what exactly your goal is with this. I definitely am with you when you say there is wasted heat and energy all over the place but do you believe that this Tesla turbine or a similar vacuum / geothermal or steam generator system can be realistically implemented for a net global savings? Im
Hey thanks for the reply! ❤️🔥🙏 yes I think it’s possible. I don’t think the TesTur will replace everything out there. But it can certainly be used in many places. I’ve got some copy pasta 🍝 I’ll share with ya that should help. With TesTur Energy, our mission is to give people energy independence through Combined Heat And Power (CHP) systems that can make use of underutilized energy sources like biomass, solar thermal, geothermal and even low grade fuels containing high quantities of solid particulates (like pulverized coal and powdered iron); energy sources/stores that are currently underutilized due to the lack of turbines and engines capable of handling the multiphase fluid flows (any combination of gasses, liquids, solid particulates) present in low grade heat boilers and low grade fuel sources without damage over prolonged/continuous periods of use. Www.HeatAndPower.com www.TesTurEnergy.com First and foremost, in terms of using high pressure, low temp gases in actual generator capacities, Compressed Air Energy Storage (CAES) and Liquid Air/Cryogenic Energy Storage (LAES/CES) are very viable solutions, and they’re being employed at industrial scales as we speak. When we look at how engines function, they typically compress air, heat it, and then expand it. Most gas turbines and turbojet engines possess a compressor, operating on what’s known as the Brayton cycle. For those unfamiliar, the Brayton cycle comprises three main processes: 1) compression of air 2) addition of heat (typically combustion but could be anything) 3) then expansion of the air. If we’re talking about steam systems, only heat needs to be added to vaporize the fluid. Systems like ocean thermal energy conversion (OTEC) can vaporize steam, or even function in an organic Rankine cycle, at significantly reduced temperatures. Tesla’s improved turbine patent GB 186,083 is particularly noteworthy here. It cleverly uses heat from the turbine exhaust to generate steam. This steam then cools the combustion jet before it enters the turbine, thus significantly reducing the compressed needs typical of most gas turbines. While regular gas turbines require an air-fuel mix in the range of 100:1 to 200:1, thanks to this innovative approach, Tesla’s patent slashes the load that the compressor puts on the shaft, making it efficient even with stoichiometric mixtures around 15:1. Moreover, Tesla’s patent GB 186,084 combines combustion and steam turbine functionality, eliminating the need for a compressor altogether. These preliminary tests are just to see how much electrical power can be produced with room temp compressed air driving the Tesla turbine. 6.22ft-Ibs of torque at only 4150rpm and +4.25kW between 6000-12,000 rpm. That puts my plastic and aluminum prototype right in between a 50cc and 125cc piston engine on combustion and 150psi compression. The TesTur nozzles never went over 20psi at the nozzle for the 2650watt electrical load test and not over 40psi at the nozzle for the 4250watt dyno test. This is so I can get a baseline for what to expect as I increase the temps to combustion levels. When using elastic gasses the counterintuitive thing most overlook is that the viscosity of gasses goes up with temp. So not only do we see an increase in thermodynamic efficiency from increased temps but the TesTur isentropic efficiency also goes up due to the reduced slip from the increased viscosity.
@@CharlieSolis I have experience with jet turbines running on biomass ( see my vids). I also had the plan to couple the turbine to RC motors for power output, but unfortunately "real life" gets in the way and sends me into the Caribbean. The goal was to create a simple power generator that could work from hog fuel or discarded biomass. I wanted to eliminate complex steam systems. The low temperature that Tesla turbines can run on with noted patents is promising. Ultimately I don't want to be the person operating such a device.. I wanted to be able to train a general novice how to make their own power ( minimum 5kw) in less than a day and replace parts at a local parts store. Anyways I hope that's helpful
Hey Stephen! Thanks for commenting! So for starters I have a degree in physics from Michigan Tech University. Beyond that though I’ve been doing my own R&D for power generation ever since I graduated.
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Debut of the TesTur Micro Home Power Plant! Thanks to all who have helped us get here!
So many thanks for everyone who’s supported our efforts!
Amazing bro! Just over in Windsor and been watching your videos for awhile. Realized I wasn't subbed. Now I am
@@BigRudeAwakening yooo from the D!
Chari Soless just clicked the add. First time I’ve ever clicked an add. We shall see
Hey thanks for coming along in this adventure with me! ❤️🔥🙏
People say, the Tesla Turbine is too high of RPM with too low torque.” This guy is like, “….. shut up hold my beer 🍺!” Love these videos.
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You are conducting the highest quality work with these concepts. Like no one else is. You are taking the foundation of what Tesla started & blending it with our modern advancements & capabilities that were never available to people in the past. Plus i haven't seen someone approach these ideas at this top tier quality tinkering work. Seriously, your grasp of engineering, physics, science, electrical work, etc. Is at a level that pretty much seems like someone could hire you right on to their professional program and provide you with a position and you guys can work on projects in a full on laboratory and work shop. Keep up the great work 🤘🏻
Aw shucks! My guy, you’ve got me blushing! Thanks for such kind words!
It really means a lot to me.
And thanks for coming along on this adventure with us!
I just hope we can do Tesla right finally!
The Algorithm has chosen you sir! Did not disappoint!
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Oh believe me, I’ve got my head on a swivel!
Im literally living my dream right now. Ain’t no checking out of this. 🤭
The only way to beat them is to share this around to as many places as you can!
The more loose ends we make the harder it is for them to stitch their cover back together.
I think weezer said it best with
“If you want to destroy my sweater (whoa, whoa, whoa)
Hold this thread as I walk away (as I walk away)
Watch me unravel, I'll soon be naked
Lying on the floor
Lying on the floor
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We gotta get this stuff visible to the naked eye for everyone to see! 🤓😬😂
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Amazing-it looks like you on the cusp of a breakthrough! Stay the course!
Hey thanks for the kind words and encouragement! Full speed ahead!
For vacuum feedthroughs I will use a solid copper wire with RTV silicone to seal it. Should work plenty good enough for what you are doing, likely not going to work very well if you're making vacuum tube amplifiers or something like that.
Great idea. I’ve got some polycarbonate caps for the clamps and I was going to drill a hole in and put a bolt through with some gaskets for testing.
In the long run I would like to find something that’s off the shelf that we can make sure will be quality for our customers.
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@Charlie Solis have you tried checking vacuum tube forums? May have some info there. You can also potentially use brass plumbing fittings and whatever method you use to seal them, of course you would need to isolate and enclose the live metal
Try spark plugs for a cheap electrical feed through.
Love it. This was going to be my next try. But I wasn’t sure what kinda continuous current they could handle off the top of my head. I imagined it would be more than I need for now but it wasn’t a spec I could find from a manufacture. Although they seem to be pretty large conductors.
@@CharlieSolis when in doubt just double or triple them up. I'm sure they don't have a great vacuum rating but maybe good enough.
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Dont think I understood a single word but goodjob, keep improving it and change the world
Let me know if I can clarify anything for ya! 😅 thanks for joining in though!
ditto lol. im just a simple blacksmith and jack manual machinist but im excited. :)
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Nice dude! I’ve spent some time researching this but you took it to the real deal! Congratulations to you and to all humanity!
Aw shucks! You’re took kind! I’m just a dood in his garage tryin to make the world better than when I got here.
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Righteous my Brother!! Looks as if the TT has forced your hand into upgrading it lolz. Quite honestly, probably at least half of the sound coming from the vacuum vessel.
I’m honestly really surprised with how quiet it is.
@@CharlieSolis Same here. It might be contained within A vacuum, just not outer space lolz.
What's your prognosis though? The pressurized turbine casing trying to expand outwardly in the vacuum, via temperature/pressure differentials; vibrational strain; just all the previous wear and tear catching up to it; or all of the above?
@@jeffpatrick1864 the ferrules were probably over tightens into the flanges and cause them to break. You can hear a “Pop” noise when I open the throttle on one of the spin ups. I think that was one of them going.
Just the stainless expanding faster than the plastic also could have done it.
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Thank you Charlie
Vy nice instructive video
Any pellet driven steam generator accompanied by the tesla disk turbine generator in the works ?
Gd luck with your projects
And plse be safe
Hey man it’s Kusal from IG! Glad to connect! This is amazing. I’ve had vision of an amazing boat, plane concept and using steam and da Vinci-esk with pulley. So cool you have some awesome tech.
If I ever become bless to do boat venture in my 50s. I know Who is ask as my Anthony stark (iron man’s dad who was the best engineer)
This is amazing tech for future homes .
Hey much love, Kusal! Thanks for coming on over and joining the fun!
Oh yeah I will definitely be working on water thrusters here very soon!
Did you get a chance to watch my Tesla Turbines for Stealth Nuclear submarines yet?
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Very Impressive! Nicely done Charlie. Thanks for taking us on the R&D journey
❤️❤️❤️ thanks for being here with me for the journey! It’s been a wild ride already and we’re just getting started! 🔥😈🔥
@@CharlieSolis BTW, I've made my own electrical pass-throughs before just using a bulkhead fitting/nipple, running the wires through, and filling it with epoxy. Works quite well and is cheap.
@@dumbarman that’s a good idea too! How well do think that’ll hold up over time?
@@CharlieSolis The epoxy will last a long time and keep the seal, the only issue I've had with prolonged use was in situations where there was a lot of repetitive strain on the wires coming out that broke the wires. I've done other versions that had epoxy in the middle and maybe a 1/4" thick silicon on either end to act as a strain relief for the wires. Also, for best results/seal, I removed the jacket from any wires (that were bundled in a multi-wire cable) and ran them individually so each wire was sealed entirely with epoxy. with a jacket, I suppose some air could get through.
Just using silicon might work too, I've not tried it that way. The ROV hobbyists build a lot of pass-throughs and recommend epoxy
that's quite a legit machine you've made there
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Love watching this project take shape!
Hey thanks Billy! Yeah it’s been very rewarding to see everything finally stating to come together! ❤️🤓
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Hey thanks for the encouragement Will! It fuels my drive!
So the giant projector tvs have fresnel lenses that can heat like crazy could these be used to create steam here?
Yes definitely they can be used. You would need a lot of them, about the same area of a 10ftx20ft to get enough power and energy for the whole days worth of energy though. This is why mirrors are better than lenses.
But t certainly can still work
Check out the solar collector hybrid PV and Thermal Mirror collector design that I posted to my Instagram.
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Dude this is beyond amazing work. I'm from South Africa where the state owned electricity provider hasn't been able to keep up with the demand for the last 20 years. This would be of great help to developing nations.
Hey thanks for commenting! Yes, we are definitely looking into ways we can make this more accessible for people. We are almost ready to start taking preorders but we’ve got a little bit more of the system we want to button up and make sure it’s just right before we start accepting payments.
Tell me, how would you go about employing this technology so that we get it into the hands of people who need it most?
@@CharlieSolis thanks for the reply. Most of the people that can afford it here in SA already have inverters with lithium batteries because we have rolling blackouts here scheduled for 2-4 hours (for now) 3 times a day. It is only the middle class, upper class and businesses that can afford to go solar.
So I beleve this system would literally be bought millions of time over just in South Africa alone. That's without the government's subsidising for now.
I understand that you would have to make sure you have a solid product before launch and I think this can be as revolutionary as home computing or the iPhone even more comparably, the light bulb or the internal combustion engine.
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As a plumber, I appreciate the choice of pex.
😬 yeah pex A is where it’s at. Those expansion tools… 😮💨 pricey. But once you have that it’s super convenient.
Honestly I like that I can take it apart and reuse the fittings if I take them apart right with a heat gun. Obviously not reuse the rings but you get what I mean. I’ve made so many different systems with these same fittings. One of these days is going to just lathe and machine my own. The nerd in me wants stainless expansion fittings 🫣🫠
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So happy to see an update and progress!
You’re doing great work!
Thank you Nick! This is been a hell of journey so far!! Time to kick things into high gear!
@@CharlieSolis Hey Charlie, messaged you on insta regarding the turbine setup and what’s going on with mine.
I lost your email 😂
I messaged ya back!
Also, our email is TesTurEnergy@Gmail.com ❤️
@@CharlieSolis Well done
Charlie
I will contact you
@@yunshuizhongyi I hope to hear from ya!
You're so cool lol and the memes just 💯 timeless
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Awe you’re too kind, Paige! You’re making me blush now 😊
I’m just a dood in his garage trying to make this world better than when I got here. 🤓😬🙏❤️
But for real, please share any good memes you have! I’m always on the hunt for funny ones! 😂
Thanks again!
@Charlie Solis thrilled when I saw your post on ig sharing a pov of the pictures in your phone, not only coming from a mechanical side, but metaphysical too. I also heard ya'll a few times. I'm in Huntsville, AL and can't wait to see you doing events soon. Let me know if you're ever interested in joint meditation 🫶🏻
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I'll look around in sci glass world for a cheaper electric feed through option
Brah. That would be amazing thank you!
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Bang on charlie. Ask us to thumbs up the video next time too
😬❤️ thank you Thumper! Your advice on my last long video really made all the difference. It was very straight forward, clear, actionable advice. Thank you for all your support! It really keeps the wheels turning over here!
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Simply brilliant! I have been thinking about this for years and you have actually done it! Bravo!
Hey thank you Richard! ❤️🔥🙏🦾🤓👨🔬
I appreciate the kind words!
@@CharlieSolis you're welcome Charlie. Would love to develop this into a commercially viable package that anyone could hook up to their house🔥🏡 💡💡💡
@@Richard.blackburn working on that right now!
if you want to get your hands dirty with a prototype of your own we are now selling versions of the 4.5in Tesla Turbine that we built during our video collab with @integza www.HeatAndPower.com
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Wawww may you say true !!
Impressive work bro congrats ! 👏👏👌🔥🔥
🤓🙏❤️ thank you Henri!
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Where do you source all those stainless steel parts
Between an assortment of like 50 different places on the interwebs. There’s also a scientific lab about a 1/2hour away from my house that I get a lot of stuff through. I’ve seriously wasted whole days of my life that I’ll never get back just scrolling through products on random websites looking for different parts 😅🤭
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there was a weird forum post cant remember where that mentioned you could use the spiral distribution of fluid on the TT to actually use it as a turbine engine by feeding it an air fuel mixture from the edges that would flow down to the center , eventually the discs would match the flame velocity at the edge and you wouldnt need to reignite the fuel each time. wonder how real that claim is, so i figured i might as well ask you in the comments lol.
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Are you referring to Teslas Improved Combustion + steam turbine patent GB 186,083? (that he patented in 1921, 10 years after the original turbine patent and about a decade of R&D)
The second half of this video I do a walk through of the combustion system and recoup boiler.
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And then this is my replication thus far of at least one of the burners and steam mixing tubes. I’ve tested both gaseous and liquid fuels (propane and gasoline) still to test out waste oils and stuff.
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And lastly, as far as air fuel mixing I have a design for a Tesla pump multifuild vortex mixer.
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@@CharlieSolis was mostly referring to the possibility of using a direct flame contact and even detonation to drive the turbine, using a startup to get the vorticity going inside the cavity and get that nice almost laminar flow of air fuel mix, and making it combust in a spiral from the edges into the center
Filling for life. Might just put your video on repeat to give you more adrev
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Yes a solar fresnel lens mass thermal storage with expansion tanks would cool and prove energy for an entire building
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Also for a cheap electrical feed through could you just connect to the tank for ground and then put a copper plate with a gasket that has electrical connections soldered to it and bolt it on in a 360 encapsulating pattern
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I like where you heads at! I’ll see what I can do!
I'm the diinstagram bro. success for tesla turbine research Its green energy 💪
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spark plugs were formerly used as electrical feed througs by my retired professor who worked on UHV systems.
Thank you for sharing
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Here's an idea for the electrical pass-thru into the vac chamber. Remove the insides of an old vacuum gauge. Machine a Teflon puck that just fits the empty housing, drill 2 holes straight into the visible face and link them up with angles holes from a single point on the side, where the wires will be routed down through the pipe and into the chamber. Silicone the inside walls of the gauge housing and then press in the prefabbed puck, lining up the hole in the edge with the pipe. Route wires up through the pipe and out through the holes in the face (use fishing line or something to pull the wires through). Connect the wires to your terminals, silicone the holes, set the terminals in and wait for it to cure. You could adapt this to some other design that feeds through the vac gauge port.
I like where you’re heads at! Let me think on this. 🙏❤️
@@Skunkhunt_42 ohhhh dood…. Duh!!! JB weld! 🤦♂️ I just saw Jay from @ThePlasmaChannel was just talking about using that for his vacuum chamber.
@@Skunkhunt_42 oh yeah not in the sanitary world. Lol
@@CharlieSolis I was gonna suggest just using the tube off a vac gauge, running the wires through and sealing with JB weld, for a simpler solution that doesn't involve modifying the chamber.
@@Skunkhunt_42 Yup, KISS method! 👍
What made you choose 10 in disc and how thick of you don't mind me asking?
This was honestly more of a “what materials I could find to make it” and “what I could even fit onto my cnc machine bed.” Than a case of “what I would have made if I could have from scratch.”
I also wanted to bring down the rpm of the turbine by going with a larger diameter disc.
It was also helpful to make one close to the size of tesla’s 9-3/4 in discs in the turbine that they tested at the Edison plant so I could get a comparison of power out.
Thanks for the reply. This is awesome. Maybe I missed this but have you looked into adding a pump on the shaft of the turbine. I read somewhere it can increase efficiency. I apologize if you have done this already great work
Cheers from Canada
@@shawnrobinson368 hey Shawn no worries. Yes I have! I’ve got a video on one of my designs for that has the condenser/ heat exchanger between the turbine and the pump. Check it out!
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@@shawnrobinson368 if you’d like more information on the thermodynamics check out the Inverted Brayton Cycle!
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Amazing work and performance
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I am nerding out so much about this, I’m gonna have to build one. For sure!
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I really appreciate the love and support.
So just to be clear I do have a degree in physics and many years of working with industrial machines.
And now I don’t want to discourage you but I need to be abundantly clear though that sadly, these are not toys.
They are VERY dangerous if not designed or handled properly.
I do not advise anyone who doesn’t already have a background in mech engineering/physics etc. to attempt to make one of them on their own.
If you wouldn’t feel comfortable taking apart a jet engine and putting it back together and know that it would work properly again then I would think twice about taking on this endeavor.
That being said, If you would like to start I would suggest by consuming as many mechanical engineering class videos as you can on TH-cam.
Learn all the thermodynamics behind steam and gas turbines.
Specifically for Tesla turbines it requires a great deal more chemistry due to the Tesla turbine operating on molecular viscous adhesive forces between the fluid and discs and not in mechanical collisions with the blades like traditional blades turbine.
So making sure to have the right surface treatments for the proper motive fluid is very important too.
“Don’t French fry when you’re supposed to pizza or you’re gonna have a bad time.”
@@CharlieSolis thank you for the drop of information and yes I may not be very experienced but I will do my research and absorb and much information about this device and how it works. It would be very dumb of me to just toss one together out of the blue and run it in steam. Don’t worry about it too much but you do inspire me to looking into educating myself further.
i wish you the best in your search.
i have been looking for a solar steam generator to make my own electric. this is the closest i have found so far.
it seems to be well worth the cost, compared to electric panels, but no one has broke down the cost for me to compare.
i especially like that use of the tesla turbine. i know it's got low speed torque, and i'm always thinking ???? when people say it doesn't have good torque. so i'm glad you made that clear.
then i hear it is not as effecient as the turbines we use in industry today.
but i don't know about cost. i have no way of comparing cost of tesla turbine, logevity, cost of ueage over time.
all i know is that it was tesla's one most favorite invention. he thought it was the key to flight and other things and it was not being used.
What are the pros/cons of using steam instead of compressed air? I've been dreaming up a system that would use wind power (Midwest USA) to turn a compressor. I'm thinking of using super-high pressure carbon fiber air tanks to run a tesla turbine. Magnetic bearings and magnetic gearboxes would be used to cut out energy loss as much as possible. Biomass would be a really neat option, so I'm not ruling out steam yet. Thanks for your work and expertise. I love the energy you are bringing to this project!
Hey will! Thanks for reaching out. So both steam and compressed air are equally viable just different ways to do it. Steam Rankine cycle would be from heat sources only and compressed air could be from a windmill with additional heat to aid in the Brayton cycle.
Whichever is chosen the disc stack needs to be designed for the fluids adhesion to the discs. Steam being s polar molecule adheres to metallic objects more. Whereas compressed air is mostly non-polar molecules, O2, N2, CO2, etc. so different surface treatments may be desired, like hydrophobic coatings to allow for the non polar air to adhere to the discs more. Or hydroPHILLIC surface treatments for steam to further increase the adhesion.
Some people might not want to deal with the compressor.
But I know the Amish use windmills to compress air and store it very very large tanks for powering their wood shops and fans around their shops for cooling, also from the expansion cooling.
You will need a LOT of tanks for storing enough energy though and high pressure tanks are really the only way to feasibly go if you don’t have a farm to bury massive tanks. So the thermal mass storage with the steam is a matter of footprint and safety being at low pressure/atmospheric pressure. Compressed air will hold its energy longer though as heat will invariably radiate, conduct away from the hot tanks over time even with good insulation.
My plan is to replicate Nikola Tesla’s improved combustion + steam turbine patent GB 186,083, used with a condenser and high vacua pump to do the full high pressure high temp Rankine plus inverted Brayton cycle. So it’s a combination of both the compressed air with heat and steam with heat all in one system.
Tesla really nailed it with that patent. I’ve got a walk through video in it if you’re interested I can share it.
But anyway there are lots of reason to do one system or the other, pros and cons for both, it will come down to individual preferences and capacities of each end user.
These are a couple videos to specifically watch.
Make sure to check out the latest updates on the combustion + steam Tesla turbine builds!
Solis Talks Tesla Turbines - Nikola Tesla’s Electrical Power Systems Patent GB 186,083 Walk Through
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Check out this video also on Amish Compressed Air Energy Storage (CAES)! Blew my mind! I didn’t know they did that until recently when looking up air engine stats to compare my TesTur to. th-cam.com/video/Oc0b4aBOyBw/w-d-xo.html
This is a good paper on Compressed air energy storage. Definitely worth the read.
www.lowtechmagazine.com/2018/05/ditch-the-batteries-off-the-grid-compressed-air-energy-storage.html
@@CharlieSolis Thank you very much for all the resources! I'm excited to learn more about what's possible. I'm leaning toward the compressed air tanks since it will be on a farm with lots of excavation happening. I'm a few years out from being able to prototype, so I'm just gathering resources.
You're awesome. Thank you
Just found your channel and I'm loving it.
Sorry if this is a noobish question but what do you want to do with the electrical feed through? If it's to get sensor data on the speed of the turbine and no need to pass a lot of power through then you might do will with a micro processor with low power wireless and a battery. Maybe and induction coil to power it if you want to run it for a long time but I'd imagine you tear this thing down fairly regularly.
A lot of microprocessors are designed to consume bugger all power when they are asleep these days, even a small lipo battery can last a long time.
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So for the vacuum feed through we specifically need it to pass the generator power wires from the inside to the outside. So potentially 250-350amps current through with the 12v up to 4000watts.
@@CharlieSolis thanks for explaining. 😀
@@Omniwoof you’re welcome! Thanks for the ideas! They will securely help for sensors and stuff.
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Is that iron oxide in your fountain water?
😅 yeah lol probably shoulda changed out the water before filming though, eh? 🫣🫠🤣
@@CharlieSolis Perhaps, but my concern was the source of it, because I was under the impression that this was all stainless steel!
The pump I used isn’t unfortunately. And it was really old. I’ve got a new one but I still need to get everything set up.
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Hey thanks Mordechi! So much more to come!
Jim glad there's people smart enough to continue Nicolas work... This is awesome man!
Aw shucks! I’m just a dood in his garage trying to make this world a little better than when I got here! 😇🙏❤️
@@CharlieSolis Nicola doesn't get the recognition he deserves. You have the child of light's footsteps to follow that could lead you to very amazingly bright places. Continue on your path my friend. I'm very proud another member of humanity is continuing Nicola's legacy . Thank you Charlie, Thank you.. I don't think you realize how revolutionary this is. The powers at be, the powers thriving off of non-renewable resources will try to stop you. It will buy your patent and shelve it so it will never see the light of day again. It has happened many times before. There are many great minds who have watched their creations be killed. Don't be one of those people. Please stay true to yourself and humanity and let no one take this from you. Nikola Tesla wanted to GIVE his gift to humanity, of free wireless power.. a stop was put to it when the realization of non-monetary profit gains for the people invested in oil and coal was in the horizon. The same goes for countless inventions that could greatly benefit the human race. But the knowledge of their existence never reach the public eye because of greed. They were bought and destroyed. Please make this a reality my friend and let NOTHING stand in your way. Now you've shown the world what your up to, their coming for it... You have just become the enemy to their fortune... Best of luck to you my friend, stay true to thy self. The literal future of humanity is in your hands. Treat it well.
For your next project you should research the wardenclifff Tower and see if you can make it a reality as Nikola dreamed. All I know is he used underground aquaphors and the ionosphere. He wirelessly lit a light bulb over a mile away off of a 110 outlet. It is believed by many that the pyramids of the Giza plateau and the obelisk ALL OVER the world are part of a similar ancient system . You're a smart feller.. figure it out lol
@@danielrobison4755 oh I’m already working on it! 🔥😇🔥 in due time. In due time.
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I'm interested in motorsport performance applications of a Tesla turbine (less lossy forced induction). Heat exchanger on exhaust manifold and Tesla turbine replacing either the impeller side of a turbo or both the impeller and compressor. Not sure if Tesla turbine can sustain higher pressure as a compressor. Figured you were the man to ask, you think this is feasible?
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Yes I absolutely do think this is possible. I’m working on the design of the multistage Tesla compressor and high vacua pump right now, in fact.
Thanks again for your support, and if you want to help me out even more, please consider donating to my Patreon page or any of the places on my linktree in my bio, it will help me to continue my project. Your support is greatly appreciated.
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Looks awesome! Sorry for my ignorance, but why is this a big deal. What makes this superior to a conventional steam turbine?
It’s wayyyyy less expensive. Can handle particulates and multiphase fluid. Can be used for low grade heat. Very durable, easy to maintain, can be powered with renewables like solar, geothermal, biomass. Whatever heat in the turbine isn’t converted to electricity can be used for heating your home. Affordable enough to be put in every home.
Wow amazing! Thats so cool. Thank you for replying. So this can be a threat for the big power hungry tyrants?
Absolutely it is.
@@melfjord well andrew pretty much summed it up beautifully there!
I would also like to be excused for my ignorance. Is this system capable of producing more power than say a traditional solar/wind collection to a battery bank with DC inverters?
Totally off topic but if you haven't seen the movie "primer" then check it out!
Your excitement of physics and genius ramblings are my goals in life.
Thanks for sharing.
Aw shucks! You’re too kind! ❤️🔥🙏
I’m just a dood in his garage trying to make this world a little better than when I got here!
Cheers mate!
Amazing. Never Quit.......
Ohhh I’m just getting started 🔥😇🔥
Thanks for the support Dustin! ❤️🙏
Looking forward to it.
@@dustinalexander4620 soon!!!!
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Yoooo! Amazing progress, the turbine sounds incredible in vacuum, and that violent boiling was just incredibly exciting, not to mention your pressure relief lever hahaha, so sick! Can't wait to see more.
Just thinking about your feedthrough problem, there's always uber expensive solutions whenever you utter the words "feedthrough" I experienced the same thing when I was trying to figure out how to lift a basket up and down out of oil in my vacuum fryer and made the mistake of even considering paying for an expensive feedthrough! I just bent some CS rods inside of SS tubing, sealed it shut, attached it to the basket with SS wire wrap and used magnets to lift it.
But I digress, can't you drill a hole and use a cable gland? Besides the standard nylon ones for weatherproofing and strain relief, there are tougher metal glands on top of there being another class called sealing glands and should easily be able to pass a multiconductor cable while withstanding a paltry 13psi vacuum. I think sealing glands are advertised as going as high as 150 psi and are used in harsh environments. I mean the manifold that BVV includes with their chambers already uses half of what a cable gland uses. Threaded body, locknut on the inside, and flat rubber washer on the outside to make seal. Check it out!
Oh dang! This is all great advice! Thank you! I’ll look into all of this!! ❤️🙏
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Hi I’m interested in finding out if this could be made to run of house heating oil and or waste engine oil
@@wolverines3968 hey thanks for commenting. I’d done correctly then yes for sure. It would require custom work though.
Is it creating its own vacuumed when you place the pot on top of it?
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So not quite. The condenser is first evacuated to create the pressure differential between the boiler and the condenser which causes the steam to force its way through the turbine into the evacuated condenser.
The vacuum is maintained in the condenser by the removal of heat from the steam in the condenser which causes it to change phase from a gas to a liquid. In doing so it’s volume decreases significantly which maintains the vacuum in the condenser.
If there are any leaks to the system you will have to continuously remove the non condensable gasses but depending on your system system size and quality leaks will be negligible.
The pot on top is mostly just so I could be lazy and not fully seal the turbine casing to vacuum and also have the exhaust fully sealed to vacuum. 😅
Instead I just put the whole thing into a vacuum chamber that is open to the condenser. 🤓🤷♂️
In the end I will also have cooling water going over the top of the pot to further aid in condensing the exhaust of the turbine.
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Best of luck scaling this up for larger power production.
Recommendation: use magnetic bearings to reduce friction loss.
Hey thanks for the kind words! Much appreciated!
If I’m being honest bearings aren’t really an issue. The nozzles perfectly balance the radial load on the turbine and there’s no axial loads. This doesn’t need to spin more than 15,000 rpm and which is still under what most motorcycles rev out to.
And all my load tests were done under 12,000 rpm.
Not to mention this 10in diameter turbine is designed for being capable of up to 500kW (1/2 a Megawatt) at full temp/pressure, disc number and stages.
The preliminary tests are just to see how much electrical power can be produced with room temp compressed air and low temp steam driving the Tesla turbine.
The TesTur nozzles never went over 20psi at the nozzle for the 2650watt electrical load test and not over 40psi at the nozzle for the 4250watt dyno test. (Compressed air)
This is so I can get a baseline for what to expect as I increase the temps to combustion levels.
When using elastic gasses the counterintuitive thing most overlook is that the viscosity of gasses goes up with temp.
So not only do we see an increase in thermodynamic efficiency from increased temps but the TesTur isentropic efficiency also goes up due to the reduced slip from the increased viscosity.
I’m any case residential units never need more than 10kW really so we are well within the range for this little one and that’s all still without any real heat addition to do real work.
But yeah with modern bearings and built in cooling we should have no issues.
@@CharlieSolis i only mention the magnetic types for achieving faster rpm when it gets scaled up to produce more power.
@@VergilArcanis I appreciate your comment but that’s not an issue because, despite what everyone erroneously claims, Tesla turbines work just fine, get plenty of torque and output power at low RPMs. I’ve got some copy pasta 🍝 of mine that I’ll share with ya here to explain more. Tesla turbines aren’t made efficient by spinning really fast. That’s only for when the disc stack is being used as a centrifugal pump, because ALL centrifugal pumps’ compressors, performance is tip speed dependent. But spinning the turbine fast will produce a centrifugal head that opposes the incoming fluid flow, reducing the pressure gradient across the nozzle, reducing fluid final velocity, reducing mass flow rates through the nozzle and ultimately reducing power out.
@@VergilArcanis Furthermore the faster you spin them the faster the fluid you have has to go just to still be moving faster than the discs and still provide torque. Lastly, they work just fine for industrial use and can scale up just fine because the torque on the discs is proportional to the difference in the fluid speed and the disc speed. So the disc tip speed is the important factor here. For any given fluid supply in, the bozzle will have a max fluid velocity. So the turbine disc tips will have a max speed set at that fluid speed irrelevant if radius. Now considering that centripetal force is proportional to V^2/R, if you keep the tip speed the same but increase the radius the centripetal forces on the disc for the speeds needed will actually decrease.
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Hey thanks Oscar!
A threaded well should work fine. Get someone to tig one in wherever you need it. The probe will screw in. You can get prox switches with a full threaded body to sense the pickups. Screw them in to the desired insertion depth then double nut them.
Now I want one.....I need a tutorial video XD
Hey thanks! If you’re interested in getting on our email list for updates in the future when we’ll have one available for purchase shoot us an email at TesTurEnergy@gmail.com
But in the mean time I need to make sure this design is bullet proof before I suggest other people replicate my design.
If you’re looking for some more hardcore information on the TesTur physics to sink your teeth into, do some scrolling through my community post page. I have a bunch of really good posts on there that I wrote. I dove into the physics and dispel a lot of myths.
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how would this integrate with solar? btw solar right now is hot
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This system would be completely modular, retrofit plug and play, with existing solar thermal collector systems.
“Solar right now is hot.” I see what you did there 😜
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Where did you get a dynamo or power generator any info you can share.
Hey thanks for commenting! Any permanent magnet motor can be used as a generator. Just pick the right Kv rating (rpm/volt) and/or gear it so that it’s outputting the desired voltage when the turbine is spinning at the desired RPM.
so how much electricity this system can produce. In this experiment, you did not do any measurments
Hey! That’s still to be determined! But I know from previous power loss tests that at about the RPMs the turbine was spinning at the turbine sees about 1-2hp loss from the bearings and 2 cheapo RC car gears. So with the direct on shaft generator setup I will be switching to, those losses will be available for power out.
Also just the mere fact that the turbine was accelerating means there was available torque for power out. Change in rotational kinetic energy (joules) per some unit time (sec) is by definition work done/power out (watts=j/s)
So between fixing the mechanical losses in the turbine and the available torque represented by acceleration the “Real” power currently being lost will then be available for power out.
This was just a preliminary debut/showing of the very first start up of the system and then where I’m at as far as next steps. I need to make a good electrical through connection and we we will be ready to rock and roll for power tests!
@@CharlieSolis thank you for the information you putting. keep up good work
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Would something like this be possible to produce power from the heat going out in the chimney from a bigger wood boiler?
Hey thanks for asking! Yup that’s one of the applications we’re shooting for!
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Let me know if you have any questions!
Cheers mate!
Did made something like that over twenty years ago. But a lot more crude. I also use the condensor as a heat exhanger that is heating a 3000 liter boiler , a 500 liter boiler for the use of hot water. Indirect i heat my floor with it and several radiators. In a weekend i can make the electricity meter go back to zero. Not actually zero but i can generate enough power what we did use during the week. Yours is way more refined. In an entire month it uses 1 m3 of wood.
But it has no use to generate more electricity. And with the 3000 liter boiler i can heat my entire home every day. Not when it gets below below 0 degrees. But i have 4 other woodstoves also.
Used a woodstove from the brand Flam as the heating chamber. And an old very thick walled boiler on top of that. Sadly it makes way to much noise. Tried a lot of insulation. It helps but not enough. I know that it is very illegal in my country. We have strict laws for using pressured steam. And to be honest it is also very logical because when it goes then it goes. Around the boiler on top of the stove surrounded it with 8 mm steelplates. And made that stronger by welding 10 mm thick flat steel around it. On top of that is the connection for the exhaustpipe that has an inner diameter of 200 mm.
The Flam stove has two 30 mm thick cast iron plates that are round. Connected in the middle to each other. Every plate has holes in it that functions as a venturi. And the plates can be turned on each other. By that creating a larger or tinier venturi for the air intake. When those venturi's are fully open and the stove is full with wood then the flames go 4 meters into the exhaust pipe and around the boiler / heat exhanger for boiling the water and creating steam. When the system is cold it only takes 15 minutes to get it fully working. And i constantly have to put in wood. I see large blocks vaporising before my eyes. And it becomes so hot that you have to distance yourself atleast two meter from the glas door. Through its entire life until know that stove burned thousends of M3 of wood. And it is so well made that it is still as new. A beautifull stove with a big ass ugly farkle on top of it. That probably one day will kill us all. Made a safety 6/4 inch thick walled tube to the outside. When i turn the valve steam comes outside of my house. And although my closed neighbours are 800 meters away they still get a bit mad when i have to do that. Luckily not often because the sound of escaping steam makes them deaf even at 800 meters. And getting to much attention is also not good. For sure i have hearing damage from the time alone that i was experimenting. And whenever i will sell my hone i will break it down. To be sure that noone after me will one day get killed. Cause you constantly have to need your focus on it while it operates.
A few times i have been looking into batteries. So we could get rid of the electricity company. But that is still today not a good option. Even when buying cheap 18650 elements and spotwelding them the costs are still way to high. When you want to have enough juice to power everything in your home.
I know that my generator has a lot of design flaws. That it all could be made a lot better but until know it functions and when people bring me waste-wood it saves a lot of money. And 80 percent of the year it heats my entire home. A bit to large home. The roof is 1450 M2. Impossible to heat that with gas or electricity. If i would have the energy i would build a new one. But after 70 years that has gone. Would be great in the future to go out with a big bang. And it keeps my visiting family away in the weekends. So it is still a win / win situation. That monster is placed in the kitchen. And can't check how thick the metal still is. After so many years here and there it probably has got some weak spots. And can you be really sure that pressure safety valves will kick in the way they should ? It is all mechanical. A bit jealous about the modern intelligent kids who also have access to tools that i back then could only dream of. And happy to see that a lot of people are getting back into steam. 🙏
Very good stuff i hope you solve it 😊 ❤
Have you ever checked out those rotary steam generators. They produces steam through rotation. They use cavitation to produce steam. You have to be careful with cavitation as it does produce radiation, but I believe that would be more efficient than using an resistive electrical heater.
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F yeah we could hear it! Jeez. Almost sounded there for a bit like it had no ceiling. Curious: What enclosure are the blades in to where you are safe standing right there? Or are you safe? Also, where is all of the water going if it is a sealed system like I am assuming? I know you said that heat comes off the cooling tower, but I thought that was radiant.
Hey Benny! Thanks for commenting! I really appreciate it. So the turbine is inside of an aluminum and 1/2in thick polycarbonate casing with 1in thick periphery. The turbine is then inside the aluminum vacuum chamber.
I should probably also have a blast shield but these discs should be safe up to at least 7,000-9,000rpm and this won’t be going much over 3,000-4,000 rpm for the 12v output tests coming up soon.
After the turbine the steam goes into the condenser. In this video I did not have a boiler feedwater/condensate return pump. So the water just went from the boiler and stayed in the condenser. That being said I’m testing out the pump I just installed for making it a full closed loop Rankine cycle system be be able to recycle the water from the condenser back into the boiler. And if this pump doesn’t work it’s just a matter of putting the right one in. 🤷♂️
Alongside this I’ve also installed a boiler feed water preheater that heats up the returning condensate with the now heated cooling water leaving the the condenser to give it back the last bit of heat from the hottest part, of the condenser just after the turbine for some efficiency increase, just before sending the water to the fountain for giving off the heat.
It won’t be much at these temp ranges but at least it’ll serve as a proof of concept but it’ll be ready for combustion temp once I’m there. This can keep the “cooling water” loop in the condenser at a higher pressure so that it can go up to higher temps and not boil before reaching the fountain and releasing up the riser column more efficiently with the higher temperature gradient. That or use a liquid with a higher boiling point than water for the cooling but that seems messy and complicated.
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Impressive engineering!!!
Have you considered putting permanent magnets on the turbine shaft and having the magnetic flux jump the pressure barrier through a glass or plastic wall?
Or putting the whole PMA inside the pressurized system and only bringing the wires out?
Hey thanks for commenting! Yes those are good suggestions.
Definitely worth testing in the future.
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I love love love this. Through a glass roof on your house to concentrate heat with a dirt cheap concave mylar emergency blanket lense and you've got solar CHP for life for pennies.
do you know what flowrate of steam this system was producing? I am curious how large of a solar steam generator you would need to run this.
Hey thanks for commenting! I don’t know the flow rates just yet but I will be determining that with the next round of tests.
As for the solar thermal collector, it will be different for each location,
But for comparison
Of the sun’s light energy that hits the earth 10% is UV, 25% is in the visible spectrum, and a whopping 65% of it is in the infrared, heat, spectrum. Solar PV cells can only use a portion of the visible spectrum and use none of the IR spectrum and in fact lose efficiency from heating up from the IR. So at best you can get maybe 20% of the suns total light energy to electricity to charge and discharge a battery at 90%. So only 18% of the suns light energy gets to your wall plug. And then UV light makes them go opaque and be at 1/2 their rated power in 10 years. So, conservatively down to 10% of the suns light gets turned into electricity 10 years in.
With solar thermal collectors you can collect all 25% of the visible spectrum and all 65% of the IR spectrum and store it as heat in a thermal mass. So 90% of the suns light energy can be collected and stored as heat in a thermal mass. Let’s say 10% loss on storage So 81% of the suns light energy is then available to be put through a steam Rankine turbine system, which at theoretical best can get 25-33% thermal efficiency to electricity. 44% is the recorded best (And that’s without any thermal recoup, boiler feedwater preheat, etc to bring up the Rankine cycle efficiency and/or going to an organic Rankine cycle with a refrigerant in the closed loop instead of steam for higher pressure gradients with the same temp gradient, for high efficiency) So that’s 20-26% of the suns light energy can be put directly out as 60hz 120vAC. About a 10-45% increase in energy out for the same footprint of collectors. And then even after that ALL the heat energy rejected/dumped out by the condenser from the latent heat of condensation and loss not turned into electrical power can then be used for home heating. Sooo since about 60% of the energy stored goes out the condenser, if it’s used for heating then somewhere like 70-80% of the suns total light energy can be utilized for electricity and heating.
So it will depend on the isentropic efficiency of the turbine and overall thermal to electrical of the system and whether or not heating is needed.
The benefit to this is that on non sunny days the thermal mass storage system can be “charged” with biomass.
And PV system have no back up options.
Badass!
Hey thanks Joseph! ❤️🤓😬
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I know of people using simple spark plugs as electrical feed throughs on a vacuum deposition chambers for semiconductor research. You just break of the ground electrode and use the center electrode for the feed through. If you intend to transfer significant amounts of electricity, rather than just sensor data, you need to use conductive core (old style) spark plugs without the resistive material designed for radio interference suppression.
Hey thanks for the suggestion! 🙏❤️🔥I’m actually using a spark plug for my water level sensor. 🤓
Wow
🤓😬❤️ thanks mate! So much more to come!!
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Creative video, thanks :)
Incredible work, what are the main drwabacks you are having? I would love to help with what I can, I am actually building my own, although I am taking a different route since my plan is to use the tesla turbine to power an electric motor and move a small car!
Hey thanks for commenting! So really the only drawbacks I’m having at the moment are just issues with machining stuff to high tolerance with the cheap cnc machines I’ve got. But even then it’s still working amazingly.
I’ve got some copy pastas 🍝 I’ll add to here for ya too.
As far as efficiency goes… (mind you this is a copy pasta 🍝 so it’s a bit long but it’s worth the read.)
My 2650watt electrical load run came in with a very low ball calculation of 40% isentropic efficiency.
To start off, mind you that includes generator losses, 3 phase rectifier losses, and inverter losses to the electrical load that were not accounted for.
So the turbine off the bat is already most definitely doing better than the 40% isentropic efficiency I’ve calculated from the already low ball test results.
But for now I’ll just assume 40% isentropic efficiency so that I’m not over claiming what I can prove it can actually do for the time being.
(I have nothing in the long run to benefit by overstating my numbers and only my legitimacy to lose. I’ve worked hard for my physics degree and don’t intend to tarnish it for a couple of extra views on the internet.)
As far as inefficiencies to the system to fix, there’s 10x crappy ball bearings in this version, 2 crappy RC car gears, both losses will be gained for power out with a direct to shaft generator. (Minus two gears and 8 crappy ball bearings)
There’s an 1/8 of an inch of space between the turbine endplates and the casing endplates on both sides of the TesTur.
That’s a 1/4in of open flow area around the 2in wide turbine (that only even has a total of 0.75in wide of spacing between all the tight disc spaces for torque to begin with.)
That means 25% of the open space for flowing through the casing, between discs and between the casing and turbine endplates, is just free flow over the side of the turbine still.
(I’m using the absolute bottom of the barrel of machining equipment right now in my garage 🤷♂️)
There’s no labyrinth seals yet to even attempt to further reduce that overflow…
The nozzle is atrocious at the moment, when making the variable converging section have a tight convergence it causes the fluid jet to aim more centripetally (towards the axle) instead of tangentially (glancing off the disc tips) which severely effects the fluids natural path.
This will be fixed with the new variable nozzle design I’m going with.
Then even further in this specific casing’s assembly there’s two “pillars” in the middle of the nozzle.
This is because the aluminum plates in the middle of the casing plate stack only had the variable nozzle bar and inlet holes cut out, and not the full nozzle geometry.
So those pillars are just vertical bars in the middle of the nozzle for the air to smash into just before going into the turbine (hopefully the wet steam tests will just erode them down 🤭)
Before all that there’s still about 100ft of air hose between the tanks and the turbine… plus a shell and tube heat exchanger and a TON of elbows and fittings.
I’m sure I’m forgetting something too but between all that being fixed…
I can almost guarantee we will be in the 60-70s % range and that’s all just still with room temp compressed air.
Most forget, I’m using room temp compressed air and never went over 20psi at the nozzle for these tests. (Pressure differential and temperature differential govern efficiency)
And even then I still only even have a single stage on it yet.
Everyone wants to compare it to the efficiency of a very high temp, high pressure (1000°F & ~1800psi) multibillion dollar 15-30 stage steam turbines… 😮💨
That’s apples to rocket ships. 😅
But considering Rankine Steam cycles get theoretical max about 33% of input heat (due to latent heat of condensation and that’s without any regenerative boiler feedwater preheat, air fuel preheat, etc) and then 40% isentropic efficiency (considering the turbine as is) we’re looking at 13.2% thermal efficiency with steam.
A more apt comparison for the TesTur would be something an individual can actually purchase, like 1-5kW piston gas generators that you can get from Home Depot or Lowe’s.
These get 15-22% thermal efficiency off the plant floor. Good luck getting that 1 year down the line or later with all those moving parts.
Also for reference, industry standard for micro bladed gas turbines is 25% thermal to electrical.
Whole system efficiency can go higher in Combined Heat and Power (CHP) system, but alas the TesTur would see the same whole system efficiency increase in a CHP Auxiliary Power Unit (APU).
In the TesTur you gotta replace…? 🤔bearings…? And still even then, only maybe 🤷♂️
depending on how good of bearings, balance, lubing, cooling.
The TesTur, and other bladed turbines, only have one moving part. 🔥
So if those piston generators drop efficiency, even at all, the TesTur on its worst day is competitive with a gasoline piston engine electric generator.🤓😬🤷♂️
And the TesTur can handle any fuel that can burn, even solid particulate fuels like powdered saw dust, pulverized coal, powdered iron, biomass, etc.
(noting the number of those that can be acquired for free… 🤑 opening up “Monetarily free”, even carbon neutral, fuel options for MILLIONS around the world)
We have to remember that the TesTur doesn’t have to be the holy grail to be worth using if we have free fuels readily available like biomass, and even waste heat already being dumped out into the air and not used for anything.
The TesTur just has to be a viable option for some to be worth doing.
Congrats
What an amazing creation!
Ps. "Charlie Solis didn't kill himself"
we need backyardscientist or another big creator who loves to invent/learn how others do things to do a video with you, more people need to see this!
Thanks for commenting. 🙏❤️ honestly that would be amazing though.
-waves- corse im not that great nor have everything i need but whatever
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Interesting setup. One concern I would have is the cooling of the electric generators. In a vacuum, you're basically relying on the conduction through to keep the insulation from melting. No convection :( . Not sure if you thought of that, if you did mention it in the video, my apologies, I didn't have time to watch in entirety.
@@JonPrevost hey thanks for commenting. 🙏❤️🔥
So in the latest setup I have cooling water jetting onto the generators themselves.
Which is great because if the generators are over the boiling point they the water will rapidly remove heat from them via the latent heat of vaporization, even better than any air or even just water cooling.
I would like to make the generator boil off actually go to the nozzle in a final build to just recoup the any energy (it won’t be great but it’s something 🤷♂️) to add back to the torque output.
Thanks again for commenting!
Great Job Charlie. Got me interested in building your solar cryophorus system and make it fit in my tiny residential backyard of 12m by 3m and with low ambient noise to enable good relationship with close neighbours here in Victoria Australia.
Hilarious watching Charlie explain the various complexities. Question, If you put a heating element in a tank of water and cranked the temperature to 600C (or whatever modern turbines run at) what percentage of power would you get back with your machine and how would that efficiency compare with a typical power plant?
Hey Jim! Thanks for commenting! So nice got a copy pasta 🍝 that I’ll share with ya. It’s a bit long but I promise it’s worth the read.
As far as efficiency goes… (mind you this is a copy pasta 🍝 so it’s a bit long but it’s worth the read.)
…My 2650watt electrical load run came in with a very low ball calculation of 40% isentropic efficiency.
To start off, mind you that includes generator losses, 3 phase rectifier losses, and inverter losses to the electrical load that were not accounted for.
So the turbine off the bat is already most definitely doing better than the 40% isentropic efficiency I’ve calculated from the already low ball test results.
But for now I’ll just assume 40% isentropic efficiency so that I’m not over claiming what I can prove it can actually do for the time being.
(I have nothing in the long run to benefit by overstating my numbers and only my legitimacy to lose. I’ve worked hard for my physics degree and don’t intend to tarnish it for a couple of extra views on the internet.)
As far as inefficiencies to the system to fix, there’s 10x crappy ball bearings in this version, 2 crappy RC car gears, both losses will be gained for power out with a direct to shaft generator.
(Minus two gears and 8 crappy ball bearings)
There’s an 1/8 of an inch of space between the turbine endplates and the casing endplates on both sides of the TesTur.
That’s a 1/4in of open flow area around the 2in wide turbine (that only even has a total of 0.75in wide of spacing between all the tight disc spaces for torque to begin with.)
That means 25% of the open space for flowing through the casing, between discs and between the casing and turbine endplates, is just free flow over the side of the turbine still.
(I’m using the absolute bottom of the barrel of machining equipment right now in my garage 🤷♂️)
There’s no labyrinth seals yet to even attempt to further reduce that overflow…
The nozzle is atrocious at the moment, when making the variable converging section have a tight convergence it causes the fluid jet to aim more centripetally (towards the axle) instead of tangentially (glancing off the disc tips) which severely effects the fluids natural path.
This will be fixed with the new variable nozzle design I’m going with.
Then even further in this specific casing’s assembly there’s two “pillars” in the middle of the nozzle.
This is because the aluminum plates in the middle of the casing plate stack only had the variable nozzle bar and inlet holes cut out, and not the full nozzle geometry.
So those pillars are just vertical bars in the middle of the nozzle for the air to smash into just before going into the turbine (hopefully the wet steam tests will just erode them down 🤭)
Before all that there’s still about 100ft of air hose between the tanks and the turbine… plus a shell and tube heat exchanger and a TON of elbows and fittings.
I’m sure I’m forgetting something too but between all that being fixed…
I can almost guarantee we will be in the 60-70s % range and that’s all just still with room temp compressed air.
Most forget, I’m using room temp compressed air and never went over 20psi at the nozzle for these tests.
(Pressure differential and temperature differential govern efficiency)
And even then I still only even have a single stage on it yet.
Everyone wants to compare it to the efficiency of a very high temp, high pressure (1000°F & ~1800psi) multibillion dollar 15-30 stage steam turbines… 😮💨
That’s apples to rocket ships. 😅
But considering Rankine Steam cycles get theoretical max about 33% of input heat (due to latent heat of condensation and that’s without any regenerative boiler feedwater preheat, air fuel preheat, etc) and then 40% isentropic efficiency (considering the turbine as is) we’re looking at 13.2% thermal efficiency with steam.
A more apt comparison for the TesTur would be something an individual can actually purchase, like 1-5kW piston gas generators that you can get from Home Depot or Lowe’s.
These get 15-22% thermal efficiency off the plant floor. Good luck getting that 1 year down the line or later with all those moving parts.
Also for reference, industry standard for micro bladed gas turbines is 25% thermal to electrical.
Whole system efficiency can go higher in Combined Heat and Power (CHP) system, but alas the TesTur would see the same whole system efficiency increase in a CHP Auxiliary Power Unit (APU).
In the TesTur you gotta replace…? 🤔bearings…?
And still even then, only maybe 🤷♂️ depending on how good of bearings, balance, lubing, cooling.
The TesTur, and other bladed turbines, only have one moving part. 🔥
Hello, I am fascinated by your work. I am very familiar with the tesla turbine design, and have an engineering background, career degree blah. So I do not need the explanation of how that aspect works and I have understood your design aspects with respect to the turbine.
I was reading on an insta post you were estimating 40% efficiency with room for more. I am curious as you mentioned the calculation was somewhere on your YT. Could you share it? Like I mentioned you have my attention.
Have you laid out the design on a flow chart? I assume you have, but I have not seen it drawn out and it might be helpful for folks to understand what your doing.
Thanks
Hey Duckman56, thanks for reaching out! I can certainly share that with ya.
Make sure to check out the latest updates on the combustion + steam Tesla turbine builds!
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+5 Horsepower Tesla Turbine Dyno Jet Turbo Power & Torque Curve 375 mph @ 12,000 rpm th-cam.com/video/exF5Rn-L8gs/w-d-xo.html
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Let me know when ya get through that and I can help explain it! 🤓🙏❤️
@@CharlieSolis made it through last night and I appreciate the direction with the links. If you don't already have them a Playlist would be helpful since there is so much content with build and troubleshooting, but also the point where you show the data. Seeing the data made me want to dig deeper. If you have it setup already disregard the message.
Anyway, awesome work! I had seen the update turbine patent a while ago and was impressed you referenced it a year or so ago. However back then there was a lot of things you were working through and It was not clear if the path would lead to an operating setup that could be tested. So I am extremely happy you responded and have been killing it.
It is impressive the torque you're able to output. What have a 3:1 or 46:15 gear ratio? So you're output after gearing is 1/3 the torque and 3x the speed of the turbine? Is it due to the generators you're using, or is there some advantage to running that speed and lower torque? Also I was looking for the video because I wanted to make sure I heard you right but in another video you were mentioning axial or transverse Flux generators would allow you to eliminate the gearing. Now I know they have higher torque capacity, but they also generally run at lower rpm are there any that are able to run at 4000 rpm?
@@duckmn56 hey yay! I’m glad you like all that. 🤓
And thank you for watching my stuff as well. I really appreciate your interest in my work.
yeah that’s a good idea I def should just put them in a quick playlist 😅 it would probably make them easier to go through and not have to click back to my comment just to get the next link.
I have other playlists but not like that genera stack in small palatable playlist.
So yeah I apologize for the disorganized nature of my channel. I’m just now starting to get the hang of this whole video making and editing process. So bear with me as the next few videos hopefully should be more clear cut.
To get to the other part of what you wrote about, I’ll go through piece by piece.
“What have a 3:1 or 46:15 gear ratio? So you're output after gearing is 1/3 the torque and 3x the speed of the turbine?”
Yes the generators are spinning at ~3x the turbine rpm.
“Is it due to the generators you're using, or is there some advantage to running that speed and lower torque?”
The only reason I geared my TesTur up to generators what literally to spite everyone and their mother who DEMANDED that TesTurs “must be geared down to work because they get low torque and high rpm……..blah blah blah”
😅🤓😎
for real though, I knew TesTurs could get plenty of torque, even at low rpm, and I wanted their to be absolutely no question whether or not it could get more than enough Torque to not just be direct on shaft with the generators but also be geared up to a generators. So I went and geared them up to the generators.
And now it works so well, and people see the gear, a bunch of the comments are “see you still had to gear the turbine down!……” 🤭🤷♂️
So this is by no means how I will be doing it in the future. As you mention I have plans for direct on shaft generator setups which will eliminate gears and bearings from the build.
I’ll also say there was a little bit of “this was the easiest thing I could get to work” going on as the generators and gears are straight outta my RC car. 🚗 👨🔬 😂
Though my RC car is back together and I bought extra replacement ones to build it out the turbine to the 4 generators and I had to design and machine a custom gear hub for the gear to seat on the hex driveshaft.
“Also I was looking for the video because I wanted to make sure I heard you right but in another video you were mentioning axial or transverse Flux generators would allow you to eliminate the gearing. Now I know they have higher torque capacity, but they also generally run at lower rpm are there any that are able to run at 4000 грm?”
Yes I do have some old videos on the axial flux designs I put together but I believe I made a bunch of my old ones unlisted because they were just not made well nor were performing well. So I felt it best to unlist them. Though I may want to bring some back or just re-record them and post them 🤷♂️ idk we’ll see.
Though they should still be watchable from any playlists that they are in, I will share a link to one of the axial flux videos of mine for you to watch in a follow up comment.
@@duckmn56 here’s one of the designs I had come up with a while ago for a dual stage axial flux direct on shaft exist flux generator set that go between the stages, (coincidentally in the same place that I have designed the “Interstage Heat Exchanger design”)
Dual Stage Tesla Disc Turbine With Built In Dual In-Line Axial Flux Generators CAD/CAM Walk Through
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And if you’re interested check out the,
Tesla Turbine - InterStage Heat Exchanger (ISHE) - Heat Pump & Inverted Brayton Cycle Improvements
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@@duckmn56 as far as axial flux and rpm. Yes you can absolutely design a high rpm axial flux generator. They usually don’t make them and they are hard to find ever for high rpm simply because their are very few high rpm power generators that they would be put onto. Wind turbines are usually high torque low rpm, and even automotive piston engines that are usually paired with generators are considered high torque low rpm. It’s kind of a chicken and the egg situation. One industry designs their standard products to go onto another industries standard products.
The windings in the axial flux generator just need to be adjusted to increase the Kv (RPM/Volt) rating of the axial flux generator.
And on that note have you see Koenigsegg’s new “RAxial” flux generator/motors? 🤤🤤🤤
“Radial and axial flux”
+300hp and only 33kg 🤯
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What if you implemented this turbine with modern heating or electrical grid systems. Do you thing it will work and give out same if not even more power?
Very cool!
can you power this by using a big fresnel lense to superheat the steam?
Hey thanks for the question! Yes it definitely possible to use fresnel lenses for a solar collector installation.
That's really impressive stuff.
Why does the turbine need to be in a vacuum in the first place?
Hey thanks for commenting, having the vacuum on the exhaust reduces the temps the steam or motive fluid will boil at. along with the larger the pressure difference between nozzle and exhaust the more available energy there is.
This is how all steam power plants operate though to be clear. With a vacuum condenser on the exhaust if the turbine.
@@CharlieSolis
I see, thanks so much for your answer.
It seems like I have some books to read.
@@kaffeetasse9455 you’re very welcome! 🙏❤️🔥
Thanks again for the question!
Dang dude
🤓😬 thanks Heldlightning !
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Strap a VSS( vehicle Speed Sending unit) on the outside of your motor generator. It will pick the field polarity and give you a heartbeat to read from a safe distance from the steam. Granted you will need to determine the ( electric) ratio. 3 2/3 ≠1 DC =3.66÷2
4pole DC = 4
Blcd=3.66÷3
4pole bldc= 3.66÷6
Ect
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Yup yup! That’s how I did it for my compressed air tests. I just take the frequency off of a single pole of the generator. And because the turbine is geared UP to the generators at 3.0666 to one. 4 pole motor (but you only divide by 2 for a 4 pole because a 2 pole does 1 cycle per Revolution 4 pole does 2 cycles per Revolution)
Rpm = F * (1min/60sec) * 2 * 3.0666
= ~(1/10) * F
So the rpm is pretty much 1/10th the frequency. It’s rather convenient while reading the frequency because it is all the correct significant figures.
The difficult part was getting a vacuum electrical feed through that will hold a seal well. I’ve since fixed that though.
Check out the video I uploaded to my Instagram
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I'm a slow lb not a quick g .
Sorry.
Vac heating the genset sounds bad. What active cooling have you added to compensate for the loss of convective cooling .
Amp ratings have to be adjusted to account for a vac environment. As the A raiting is in free air allowing convective cooling.
@@daviddroescher yup I’ll have cooling water going over each generator.
But I’ll be wayyyy under powering them for the vacuum conditions, anyway. I only want 1kW out for now. And they are capable of doing 1500watts continuous each at 12v I’ll have 4 of them running at once in the end of these tests.
Ultimately I will be going with a direct on shaft generator in the end though so things I’ll be changed a couple times before then.
Just trying to price out different setups for what I can make easily vs what I would like to make if I had the resources. 🤷♂️
@@daviddroescher I also need bearing cooling for long term runs but I have a feeling because the boiling point is so low any condensate coming out of the turbine may help evaporatively cool the bearings, and maybe the generators too. 🤷♂️ although that may be pie in the sky asking too much Fromm the system. Either way cooling water is really easy. Just gotta bulkhead in and I can even let the vacuum pull it in for short term runs. And/or the condensate return/boiler feedwater pump can replenish the cooling water all the same.
I would love to see it in a car and bet a dodge challenge jailbreak! STEAM is KING !
Ohhh in due time! 🔥😇🔥
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very interesting it looks complicated to build though
Hey thanks for the comment! The final version will be much more simplified. I’m just building it this way for now so that I can have a hypermodular setup and change things as needed. But the final turn key system will be more compact.
..can it fit inside a car to recharge batteries automatically
Hello brother
that's insane 🛐💀
Brother what if we use aerofoil flat shapes at the corner of discs as spacers.
Due to laminar flow boundary layer will remains same and another force will be added due to aerofoil spacers at discs corners .
Its my idea if you think it's good then i m gonna try this
In Tesla’s words.
“In the practical application of mechanical power, based on the use of fluids as the vehicle of energy, it has been demonstrated that, in order to attain the highest economy, the changes in the velocity and direction of movement of the fluid should be as gradual as possible. In the forms of apparatus heretofore devised or proposed, more or less sudden changes, shocks and vibrations are unavoidable. Besides, the employment of the usual devices for imparting to, or deriving energy from a fluid, such as pistons, paddles, vanes and blades, necessarily introduces numerous defects and limitations and adds to the complication, cost of production and maintenance of the machines.
The object of my invention is to overcome these deficiencies and to effect the transmission and transformation of mechanical energy through the agency of fluids in a more perfect manner and by means simpler and more economical than those heretofore employed. I accomplish this by causing the propelling fluid to move in natural paths or stream lines of least resistance, free from constraint and disturbance such as occasioned by vanes or kindred devices, and to change its velocity and direction of movement by imperceptible degrees, thus avoiding the losses due to sudden variations while the fluid is imparting energy.”
My advice is to not use anything of the sort for added torque. If you design your TesTur correctly you won’t need the airfoils. The discs will work even better.
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I wish I understood any of this. I'd really like to try to get a steam turbine to produce some power by using the heat produced by hot composting.
Can other working fluids work with this such as high temp helium?
Supercritical CO2 Brayton Cycles?
@@davidgravereaux1220 hey thanks for the questions! Yes they can definitely work for those!
Thoughts on running the tesla turbine with liquid water and lowpressures? Also is the vacuum only in the chamber thats on the table or also somewhere else in the system, and what does it benefit?
Edit: Also what material is your discs and whats the spacing on them?
I see no update demonstrations for a year are you at a dead end.
Why do you not go for the pulse detonation system.
Hey thanks for commenting. But I haven’t been posting to TH-cam because just about every video I post on here literally goes nowhere 🤷♂️ it’s not worth my time to go out of my way and post it on here.
Though I’m posting everyday on my Instagram account @SolisHoods.
I’m currently working on machining the turbines for the 17 orders we have of our 4.5In turbines that are for sale on our website www.HeatAndPower.com
In the process I’ve made a bunch of improvements to the turbine casing and will be testing it out in the steam system very soon here.
Stay tuned and check out all the work I’ve been posting about on IG
I have over 300,000 followers over there. Most of mimosas get beteeen 30,000 up to a couple million views now.
But I’ll post here to my 25,000 subscribers and TH-cam won’t even serve the same videos a thousand times let alone get a couple hundred views. At best. 🤷♂️ and I’m talking about videos that blew up on IG.
It’s just not worth the time to even put stuff on here though I’m slowly posting more of what I haven’t posted on here.
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what's the purpose of the vacuum?
Hey thanks for commenting!
Great question!
When we use a Tesla turbine for steam, having a vacuum on the exhaust side serves a couple of important purposes.
Firstly, it helps in increasing the overall efficiency of the system.
The vacuum effectively lowers the pressure at the exhaust, which allows the steam to expand more and thus transfer more of its thermal energy into mechanical energy as it passes through the turbine.
Secondly, by maintaining a vacuum, we can ensure a more constant and higher speed of the steam flowing through the turbine.
This can further improve the performance of the turbine and the energy output.
Lastly this lowers the temperature at which the boiler side of the turbine can actually boil at and make steam for still producing power out.
Typical bladed steam turbines cannot handle the wet steam at these lowest pressure and temp ranges as they would destroy the blades from the condensate/water droplets in suspension with the steam.
Though I’m the Tesla turbine thin condensation of the H2O into microscopic liquid droplets actually increases the bulk viscosity and adhesive forces of the motive fluid to the disc faces for reduced slip on the discs.
Additionally this actually allows further use of the condensates final kinetic energy for power out before leaving the turbine.
Potentially allowing this system to achieve higher than typical Rankine cycle systems.
I hope that clears up your query. Feel free to ask if you have any more questions!
Best,
Charlie
very cool.
Hey much love and gratified my dood!
@@CharlieSolis do you have a video explaining what exactly your goal is with this.
I definitely am with you when you say there is wasted heat and energy all over the place but do you believe that this Tesla turbine or a similar vacuum / geothermal or steam generator system can be realistically implemented for a net global savings? Im
Hey thanks for the reply! ❤️🔥🙏 yes I think it’s possible. I don’t think the TesTur will replace everything out there.
But it can certainly be used in many places.
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With TesTur Energy, our mission is to give people energy independence through Combined Heat And Power (CHP) systems that can make use of underutilized energy sources like biomass, solar thermal, geothermal and even low grade fuels containing high quantities of solid particulates (like pulverized coal and powdered iron); energy sources/stores that are currently underutilized due to the lack of turbines and engines capable of handling the multiphase fluid flows (any combination of gasses, liquids, solid particulates) present in low grade heat boilers and low grade fuel sources without damage over prolonged/continuous periods of use.
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First and foremost, in terms of using high pressure, low temp gases in actual generator capacities, Compressed Air Energy Storage (CAES) and Liquid Air/Cryogenic Energy Storage (LAES/CES) are very viable solutions, and they’re being employed at industrial scales as we speak.
When we look at how engines function, they typically compress air, heat it, and then expand it.
Most gas turbines and turbojet engines possess a compressor, operating on what’s known as the Brayton cycle.
For those unfamiliar, the Brayton cycle comprises three main processes:
1) compression of air
2) addition of heat (typically combustion but could be anything)
3) then expansion of the air.
If we’re talking about steam systems, only heat needs to be added to vaporize the fluid.
Systems like ocean thermal energy conversion (OTEC) can vaporize steam, or even function in an organic Rankine cycle, at significantly reduced temperatures. Tesla’s improved turbine patent GB 186,083 is particularly noteworthy here.
It cleverly uses heat from the turbine exhaust to generate steam.
This steam then cools the combustion jet before it enters the turbine, thus significantly reducing the compressed needs typical of most gas turbines.
While regular gas turbines require an air-fuel mix in the range of 100:1 to 200:1, thanks to this innovative approach, Tesla’s patent slashes the load that the compressor puts on the shaft, making it efficient even with stoichiometric mixtures around 15:1.
Moreover, Tesla’s patent GB 186,084 combines combustion and steam turbine functionality, eliminating the need for a compressor altogether.
These preliminary tests are just to see how much electrical power can be produced with room temp compressed air driving the Tesla turbine.
6.22ft-Ibs of torque at only 4150rpm and +4.25kW between 6000-12,000 rpm.
That puts my plastic and aluminum prototype right in between a 50cc and 125cc piston engine on combustion and 150psi compression.
The TesTur nozzles never went over 20psi at the nozzle for the 2650watt electrical load test and not over 40psi at the nozzle for the 4250watt dyno test.
This is so I can get a baseline for what to expect as I increase the temps to combustion levels.
When using elastic gasses the counterintuitive thing most overlook is that the viscosity of gasses goes up with temp.
So not only do we see an increase in thermodynamic efficiency from increased temps but the TesTur isentropic efficiency also goes up due to the reduced slip from the increased viscosity.
@@CharlieSolis I have experience with jet turbines running on biomass ( see my vids). I also had the plan to couple the turbine to RC motors for power output, but unfortunately "real life" gets in the way and sends me into the Caribbean. The goal was to create a simple power generator that could work from hog fuel or discarded biomass. I wanted to eliminate complex steam systems. The low temperature that Tesla turbines can run on with noted patents is promising. Ultimately I don't want to be the person operating such a device.. I wanted to be able to train a general novice how to make their own power ( minimum 5kw) in less than a day and replace parts at a local parts store. Anyways I hope that's helpful
How did you learn this
Hey Stephen! Thanks for commenting! So for starters I have a degree in physics from Michigan Tech University. Beyond that though I’ve been doing my own R&D for power generation ever since I graduated.
Thank you for your response.
Your welcome! What’s you background in?
Applied science
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