You gotta remember these dudes were used to getting away with dirt they did against other gangs. So they're used to getting away with crime and add on top of that fame and money coming in. These dudes probably thought they were invincible. They're just idiotttss though
@tb808 bro there is absolutely no evidence he snitched... stop the cap. Lets be real. Rondo and cdai did a terrible job. Hell cdai even dropped his phone at the fn scene. Rondo, switched. He tried to put the blame on cdai, but the court wouldn't allow his lawyer to use that strategy. Tay def did not snitch. Plus who the f cares who snitched or not.... an innocent man died for no reason while working a legal job... I believe that is the real issue here.
In the end Tay600 got it the best. He cleared his street name by proving he aint a snitch and he left the street life but rondo and cdai doing 40 years and rest of 600 dead or locked up with them.
I was in hs when chiraq drill beef was going on, It’s insane to think all these people were my age too. No one was older than 21 in these videos. That’s crazy to me.
I was in my 2nd or 3rd year in college going to Chicago State University. When i first heard Drill music i hated everything it stood for. Time showed me i hated it for good reason.
Dear Chiraq Drill . Does it not affect you that you watch any music video from say 2019 , everyone in the video is dead... How do you not see that this is not a life.
Your logic makes perfect sense but unfortunately these guys just aren’t the type to think long term…Too many of them want to go out like a “real nygha”
It just goes to show the issue with even giving attention to these people. All it takes it for one person to get lucky, get famous for doing dumb shit like this, and then it inspires others to try to do the same. A bunch of teenagers trying to out-savage each other to hopefully become the next big rapper. Smh 🙃 bring back the male leadership.
He did tho like it's been known since like 2020 FOIA paperwork leaked with his statement he just didn't get on the stand He made a mistake and fixed it simple as that edit: Chiraqology user 079Buckz posted the FOIA paperwork just type his name and say FOIA and you'll get the results
@@ZAKCCBI'll say the statement tho it said "REDACTED stated he saw Massey-Rondo shooting inside the passenger side of a vehicle that was parked on the side of the street. He stated there was one more shot fired at that point. He stated that after the shooting he saw Massey-Rondo get back into the maroon car." and well you get the point he snitched There's even Paperwork from 2016 that leaked on ChiraqHits or one of those reddits where US Marshalls or someone forgot the name the police people if you find it you find it but they had came and got him because they wanted him to testify for the trial because his initial statement he was at a studio and he tried to run and they wrestled him to the ground his gun fell out and when they asked why he had it He said "My Own People are Out to get me" 600 wouldn't be out to get him if he didn't snitch A well top respected shooter like him No way they'd just throw that on him for no reason What Would Rondo, Breezy, Edai, Cdai etc. have to benefit calling him a snitch when they shouted him out as a shooter in multiple songs he made a mistake and fixed it that simple
Haven't seen a single comment on how this was a completely innocent man who got killed I hope Noone involved in the "streets" survives or is let out. The pain they cause to innocent people is beyond redemption
It’s seriously psychotic to have pride in murder and violence, especially when it’s literally fratricidal with no meaning or purpose whatsoever..this psychopathy has been a problem for decades now and there’s no end in sight…
Funny how they left all that incriminating evidence and they crying and lying on Tay. Instead of blaming themselves, they tried to act like Tay was the reason they got caught.
@4:25 The thing about the "per capita" argument is that the listed cities have smaller overall populations, but way higher populations of poor minorities than Chicago. If half or more of Chicago's population was made up of poor minorities like the other listed locations, it would be in the top "per capita" at that time too. The "per capita" argument is saying that those cities have smaller populations, so it's more dangerous in those places. But it doesnt matter where you are, if you're in an area that has poverty, it's not safe for you no matter what.
A damn fool is what he was. Why are you saying that on social media??? These dudes dont know wtf "nation business" means like the people that came before them.
they quick to condemn tay but they never mention the females that snitched and identified them as the shooters. Dont forget that Cdai also dropped his phone at the murder scene.
This is partly why TLR is the goat on a completely different level than the others who cover the media by a shit ton 🐐🐐….. 9:02 This is a massive part of it that absolutely neeeevvveer gets talked about or mentioned at all and most have no idea makin everyone think he shot up a dude in a big bright yellow cab with a taxi light on the roof and fully decaled up company name on the door and numbers etc..
@@030KIDDO_AT4s are single use. You can easily get one that’s already been fired because they can’t be reloaded. They are often used as props, but they are real launchers, technically
@@tylerthomas5025 yeah it was an inert tube you can buy those pretty easily online its a real at4 launcher just with everything dangerous taken out of it its a single use launcher so thats why its not dangerous
@@tylerthomas5025i dont think it was fake, they can only be shot once then you dispose of the launcher, i think you can buy them. So was probably real but couldnt actually shoot anything or be used
Trap Lore Ross lives off these tragedies which keep old wounds fresh in our peoples minds . Only the ones of us who love our people can stop these videos by refusing to watch them.
You miss the point because you lack an understanding of history. Politicians put crack cocaine in impoverished black and brown communities just as they put fentanyl and meth in impoverished white ones. All of it is to make money off the death of people who are deemed undesirable by the wealthy. They destroy the minds of the impoverished with drugs then say; "See look at those animals". Trap Lore Ross feeds off this poisoning of people who he has ZERO connection towards.
Man I swear I’ve been trying to find that ram video lol wit shorty pointing the Bangah at the cam. Lol pretty in pink that shot stays stuck in my head I remember knowing that I knew nothing about them but knew shorty was about that life lol.
I’m not sure why but the “infamous 600 Mac” is hilarious to me It’s like it should have its own magic the gathering styled card MAXIMUM AMOUNT OF WORK EXCEEDED
Rondo could’ve been OTF, could’ve saved Von that night and C Dai could’ve been Glo gang and would save Boss Moo from killing himself, their actions caused a butterfly effect
Funny how Cdai was repping for Chief Keef crazy before he got locked up and then he get mad cuz Durk helping out Rondo putting money on his books like Durk should help him when he didn't even promote Durk like he did Chief Keef or how Rondo put on for Durk. Why doesn't he ask Keef or the Glo to put money on his books? Same for D Rose now he doesn't want anything to do with 600 and seems to be more peaceful now he just seemed like a lost shorty.
Unpopular opinion RondoNumbaNine woulda fell off bc he can't rap that good . Had he not crashed out he'd be out here talking stories like Cam Capone and Jhood
@@Oblivisci........ My apologies I forgot that I am on TH-cam and some people are a little different so I have to keep that in consideration tho oh my bad " though"
Now my state of Arkansas made it on the record of one most dangerous states to live in ,fort smith Arkansas aka Fort Town is top six most dangerous places to live
Ak trying to call everyone else dumb but then calls an RPG a WMD... like why use phrases you don't know the meaning of especially when you're throwing so many stones yourself
It's an AT4 it's an one time use weapons system that had already been used and wasn't worth anything. You couldn't do anything with that you couldn't do with the baseball bat. It's literally just a tube. You can't load it with the rocket. They are 100% legal to own because yet again, it's just that toob.
You can buy inert rocket launchers, rpg7... Anything that fires an explosive projectile... You just order them online or buy from surplus stores and they arent super expensive. So yes Rondo probably had a "real" one as in one time it worked, but inert means it doesnt work anymore and its almost impossible to get the actual high explosive rounds for them. They arent like switches where hundreds of thousands came over from china. Which is why rondo never blew anything up lol we know he wouldve if he had the ability. On the other hand the 600 Mac11 was almost certainly full auto. Not only are they the cheapest machine gun you can legally buy with paperwork, were there tons of unregistered ones floating around the entire United States. And if you got an open bolt Mac11, especially one that was converted to semi auto, it takes a solid 5 mins to make them fire full auto again and a ton of them basically "break" or "wear out" in a way where theyre full auto again. This was way before switches or anyone having FA handguns or even rifles. 600 apparently been on demon time for over 10 years.
Cdai and drose were crash dummies i dont feel bad about their sentences but damn i do feel bad. The most active dudes for their people but the people just treated em like they dead. Thats just how it goes tho
If being a crash dummy was a person
800 fatz takes the crash dummy trophy, rondo and cdai a close 2nd and 3rd
You gotta remember these dudes were used to getting away with dirt they did against other gangs. So they're used to getting away with crime and add on top of that fame and money coming in. These dudes probably thought they were invincible. They're just idiotttss though
Nah rondo number 1 he left his phone sat 2 crime scenes..Bro ain’t learn his lesson the first time 😂
🔺️👁🔺️
@@confidentminajit was cdai not rondo
Jail definitely keeping these dudes alive
They're having fun though. Alot of them like the love they receive in prison. Just ask King Lil Jay and King Von.
Fr
Said truth 🙏🌞
Sure
@@K.B.Williamsthey said lil jay was taking transmissions out their glory his whole bid in cook county
How you gonna leave your phone at two different crimes?😂😂
This why I say to this day😂 Cdai should've took the fall
He was stupid left his phone he should've took the fall
If 800 Fatz is the biggest Crash Dummy In history then Rondo is the Collision course instructor.
" collision course instructor " 💀😭
😂😂😂😂spit my water out
😂😂😂😂😂😂
Dem snitch allegations lowkey saved Tay’s life. Made him grow as a person and realise the streets ain’t it
I still think he snitched then changed his mind later
@tb808 bro there is absolutely no evidence he snitched... stop the cap. Lets be real. Rondo and cdai did a terrible job. Hell cdai even dropped his phone at the fn scene. Rondo, switched. He tried to put the blame on cdai, but the court wouldn't allow his lawyer to use that strategy. Tay def did not snitch. Plus who the f cares who snitched or not.... an innocent man died for no reason while working a legal job... I believe that is the real issue here.
@@joshua22267there is paperwork. He gave a statement. He just didn’t testify at trial
@@tb808 that shit was bogus
@@tb808unlock your thinking cap ,that paperwork was bogus .
Critical thinking is impotent especially when you’re an adult
Cdai literally the most clumsiest shooter ever bruh 💀💀 first the Fatz crime scene, now the Javan Boyd crime scene.
You talking about the death of your people like you talk about a basketball game…time to stop making murder entertainment
@@TheNiggyStardust those are demons they're not your people
That fool's phone is an upstanding citizen. Always report crimes 😂😂
Era of murderers that want everyone to know they're murderers but don't want to go to jail for it
“I didn’t do it but I did it”
Strange times lol
0:45 T Roy had them crackhead fingertips 😂
I knew I wasn’t trippin
You mean BootyFingers
😂 there's a comment like this on any video that has pics or vids of T Roy. They really were gross.
The brother was so caught up in killing the ddnt have time to take care of himself. He had nail fungus!!
A coping mechanism. Biting your nails to da roots.
Glad they off the streets and not terrorizing the neighborhood
The censorship on this platform is getting nuts lmao
These Minecraft ass pixels 💀😭
I remember when TH-cam was like Reddit you could post damn near anything… now it’s toast
💯
It's either that or TH-cam won't drop that bag.
What do you mean
In the end Tay600 got it the best. He cleared his street name by proving he aint a snitch and he left the street life but rondo and cdai doing 40 years and rest of 600 dead or locked up with them.
Cdai need to tell on somebody
agreed leon bailey
I was in hs when chiraq drill beef was going on, It’s insane to think all these people were my age too. No one was older than 21 in these videos. That’s crazy to me.
I was in my 2nd or 3rd year in college going to Chicago State University. When i first heard Drill music i hated everything it stood for. Time showed me i hated it for good reason.
Dear Chiraq Drill . Does it not affect you that you watch any music video from say 2019 , everyone in the video is dead... How do you not see that this is not a life.
Your logic makes perfect sense but unfortunately these guys just aren’t the type to think long term…Too many of them want to go out like a “real nygha”
Shout out Trap Lord snapping with the videos back to back 🔥🔥🔥fire
Congrats rondo you get a gold medal from the Hood lol see you in 39 years 😅😂😂😂
🤣
It just goes to show the issue with even giving attention to these people. All it takes it for one person to get lucky, get famous for doing dumb shit like this, and then it inspires others to try to do the same. A bunch of teenagers trying to out-savage each other to hopefully become the next big rapper. Smh 🙃 bring back the male leadership.
Cdai fucked himself over so bad and i honestly i don't feel sorry for him at all he made terrible decisions.
😂 Bro facts! I’m a whole ass square and even I wonder who TF does a drill with a phone on them anyway??
I can’t stand Edai & 600breezy
For lying on Tay!!
I’m so happy the truth came out and cleared his name🙏🏻
He did tho like it's been known since like 2020 FOIA paperwork leaked with his statement he just didn't get on the stand
He made a mistake and fixed it simple as that
edit: Chiraqology user 079Buckz posted the FOIA paperwork just type his name and say FOIA and you'll get the results
These guys are exactly where they want to be. They’re comfortable locked up
With there butt buddies lol
Just like your daddy, comfortable in a coffin lol #thunky
Rondo crys everyday
What a horrible life to live.
Just imagine 30 years with no 🐱 smh 🤦🏾 yall can have this bs
all the things u get when u free and u worried bout kat 😂 but ify gng dat would hurt
Imagine going in just when you old enough to start hitting the bar and getting out when you're hitting the retirement home🤦♂️
@@Chris-bw9bq crazy
yeah that’s nasty work lol 😂
@Sinscarr I mean it is the closest thing to heaven on earth.
Breezy really lied on a interview to make his homie look bad 😭😭😭
17:19
@@ZAKCCBI'll say the statement tho it said
"REDACTED stated he saw Massey-Rondo shooting inside the passenger side of a vehicle that was parked on the side of the street. He stated there was one more shot fired at that point. He stated that after the shooting he saw Massey-Rondo get back into the maroon car."
and well you get the point he snitched
There's even Paperwork from 2016 that leaked on ChiraqHits or one of those reddits where
US Marshalls or someone forgot the name the police people if you find it you find it but they had came and got him because they wanted him to testify for the trial because his initial statement he was at a studio and he tried to run and they wrestled him to the ground his gun fell out and when they asked why he had it He said "My Own People are Out to get me"
600 wouldn't be out to get him if he didn't snitch A well top respected shooter like him No way they'd just throw that on him for no reason
What Would Rondo, Breezy, Edai, Cdai etc. have to benefit calling him a snitch when they shouted him out as a shooter in multiple songs he made a mistake and fixed it that simple
Fax
Breezy been a dumbass lmao
Haven't seen a single comment on how this was a completely innocent man who got killed
I hope Noone involved in the "streets" survives or is let out. The pain they cause to innocent people is beyond redemption
It’s seriously psychotic to have pride in murder and violence, especially when it’s literally fratricidal with no meaning or purpose whatsoever..this psychopathy has been a problem for decades now and there’s no end in sight…
keep this content bro i hope 1 day you make a film about this crazy guys
What makes this worse is, they're in those jail cells not regretting anything they did, just regretting that they got caught smh
Funny how they left all that incriminating evidence and they crying and lying on Tay. Instead of blaming themselves, they tried to act like Tay was the reason they got caught.
Cdai is ridiculous bro😭
@4:25 The thing about the "per capita" argument is that the listed cities have smaller overall populations, but way higher populations of poor minorities than Chicago. If half or more of Chicago's population was made up of poor minorities like the other listed locations, it would be in the top "per capita" at that time too.
The "per capita" argument is saying that those cities have smaller populations, so it's more dangerous in those places. But it doesnt matter where you are, if you're in an area that has poverty, it's not safe for you no matter what.
That Ak pic is hilarious. Bro man looked malnourished 😂😂
😂😂😂
The only thing trap left out was the phone call between tay and breezy, this is where breezy said they didn't actually see any paperwork.
Cdai doesn't regret jack he got off on what he was doing and openly bragged about it dude was a sociopath
A damn fool is what he was. Why are you saying that on social media??? These dudes dont know wtf "nation business" means like the people that came before them.
Wouldn’t have to worry about snitches if you didn’t kill an innocent man for no reason…
Real
wasted existence was a person ..... 45 years singing the blues
How is Rondo gettin put in lockup “equally tragic” to LA getting killed? C’mon TLR….
these prettynpink girls are the first chicago hood chicks ive seen that actually look pretty good
Look good??? Are you fucking blind sir 🤔
Got no sympathy for these fools taking penitentiary chances like that. Double the 39 years!
I dont think the murder of a innocent cab driver can be called a "small mistake" 😂😂😂
He was talking bout him snitching not the murder of the cab driver 🤦🏿♂️
they quick to condemn tay but they never mention the females that snitched and identified them as the shooters. Dont forget that Cdai also dropped his phone at the murder scene.
Also anyone know where's that 14:38 pic from is that from the station when he got questioned for the murder?
I seen the footage from the murder too wish they showed video somewhere because man that shit is crazy
Favourite rapper from chiraq, the guy was quintessential of the era and in the best crew 🫡
T roy fingernails looked so damn nasty smh#CRAZY
Mannn frfr
This is partly why TLR is the goat on a completely different level than the others who cover the media by a shit ton 🐐🐐….. 9:02
This is a massive part of it that absolutely neeeevvveer gets talked about or mentioned at all and most have no idea makin everyone think he shot up a dude in a big bright yellow cab with a taxi light on the roof and fully decaled up company name on the door and numbers etc..
Rappers claiming to "see paperwork" when they cant even read is crazy.
😂
I've seen the unblurred pic of Rondo holding the rocket launcher, it wasn't a RPG it was a AT-4.
I forgot who's interview I was watching but they said it was a fake launcher just a prop or sum like that
@@tylerthomas5025 correct my g
@@030KIDDO_AT4s are single use. You can easily get one that’s already been fired because they can’t be reloaded. They are often used as props, but they are real launchers, technically
@@tylerthomas5025 yeah it was an inert tube you can buy those pretty easily online its a real at4 launcher just with everything dangerous taken out of it its a single use launcher so thats why its not dangerous
@@tylerthomas5025i dont think it was fake, they can only be shot once then you dispose of the launcher, i think you can buy them. So was probably real but couldnt actually shoot anything or be used
Gang u need to break down YSL
or maybe something more about Gakirah barned fly boy gang Grouo
He did
How do you remotely wipe an IPhone..?
It's a Samsung
really unfortunate situation for everyone🙏😞..
Trap Lore Ross lives off these tragedies which keep old wounds fresh in our peoples minds . Only the ones of us who love our people can stop these videos by refusing to watch them.
Or.....you shouldn't kill innocent people
Is something wrong with you?
You miss the point because you lack an understanding of history. Politicians put crack cocaine in impoverished black and brown communities just as they put fentanyl and meth in impoverished white ones. All of it is to make money off the death of people who are deemed undesirable by the wealthy. They destroy the minds of the impoverished with drugs then say; "See look at those animals". Trap Lore Ross feeds off this poisoning of people who he has ZERO connection towards.
Don’t try and stop the violence, try and stop the man reporting on the violence that’s clown behavior
Man I swear I’ve been trying to find that ram video lol wit shorty pointing the Bangah at the cam. Lol pretty in pink that shot stays stuck in my head I remember knowing that I knew nothing about them but knew shorty was about that life lol.
I’m not sure why but the “infamous 600 Mac” is hilarious to me
It’s like it should have its own magic the gathering styled card
MAXIMUM AMOUNT OF WORK EXCEEDED
Rondo: Murders innocent Taxi Driver.
TLR: I'm disappointed in you Rondo.
Explaining snitch allegations while you're out on early release is crazy
Rondo could’ve been OTF, could’ve saved Von that night and C Dai could’ve been Glo gang and would save Boss Moo from killing himself, their actions caused a butterfly effect
Imagine kicking it with yo homie killer 😂😂
Mad at Tay but Cdai keeping dropping phones and then sent a chick to inquire about a dam phone AT A CRIME SCENE?? CRAZY
Rest in peace to Fredo Santana he was a real one 👍👍👍👍👍
Why is it disappointing, his raps were trash and 600 are all turncoats. They turned traitor from GD to BD to ride Chief Keef
This one of those videos Breezy gonna regret forever.
Funny how Cdai was repping for Chief Keef crazy before he got locked up and then he get mad cuz Durk helping out Rondo putting money on his books like Durk should help him when he didn't even promote Durk like he did Chief Keef or how Rondo put on for Durk. Why doesn't he ask Keef or the Glo to put money on his books? Same for D Rose now he doesn't want anything to do with 600 and seems to be more peaceful now he just seemed like a lost shorty.
Unpopular opinion
RondoNumbaNine woulda fell off bc he can't rap that good . Had he not crashed out he'd be out here talking stories like Cam Capone and Jhood
Or bodied trying to catch the bus
Rondonumbanine doesn’t know how to rap well 🤣🤣
Here are the new fans of chief keef what he says as stupidity
@valentinkim7724 did you at least read your comment before you posted it. Sheesh. Ts gave me a head ache
@@NativeTearsI’m French, that’s why
@valentinkim7724 oh okay my apologies. Hope ur having a beloved day my good sir
Trapbore need to check your savages comments
Wearing tha same outfit from a video a week earlier is crazy though
Wtf is with that spelling? 😂😂😂
@@Oblivisci........ My apologies I forgot that I am on TH-cam and some people are a little different so I have to keep that in consideration tho oh my bad " though"
Can you do one on makado from 600
He look like big bear from GTA San Andreas
How can you tell? Graphics back then was so terrible ppls faces looked like mashed potatoes lol
Make that mf toilet sparkle - B-dubb
It's crazy to think he 16 17 with such a deep Crack voice of a 25 year old
“9:10” one creepy sound
Disrespect to the nation
BDK On King Larry Shawty 👑
Real gangstas aren't posting bullshit on TH-cam videos
Now my state of Arkansas made it on the record of one most dangerous states to live in ,fort smith Arkansas aka Fort Town is top six most dangerous places to live
D Rose is the ultimate Chiraq savage
Man, Cdai dont put in work if he cant leave his cellphone at the scene.. what a bozo
Bye bye. Guy was a coward anyway
26:52 are you sureeee?? There are some songs of his that haven't hit a mill like Shittin on em, 600 we some stars and da gang, pull up few more
Do one on my boy d rose 600/tymb/thf/oblock/lam/frontstreet
Good thoughts
Ak trying to call everyone else dumb but then calls an RPG a WMD... like why use phrases you don't know the meaning of especially when you're throwing so many stones yourself
Chief keef universe is crazy yo
It’s crazy to see such young children have access to weapons like a rocket launcher 🥴🥴
Shit reg smh I remember my lil brother came on the block with two grenades & we in Brooklyn
It's an AT4 it's an one time use weapons system that had already been used and wasn't worth anything. You couldn't do anything with that you couldn't do with the baseball bat. It's literally just a tube. You can't load it with the rocket. They are 100% legal to own because yet again, it's just that toob.
@@joshhoehnmakes you wonder were the authorities faking concern, or are that that ignorant.
@@joshhoehn well thank you for explaining that lol tbh I know nothing about weapons 😭😂
@@teemann8379 They're just that ignorant.
Tooka wasnt a GD, bruh
You can buy inert rocket launchers, rpg7... Anything that fires an explosive projectile... You just order them online or buy from surplus stores and they arent super expensive. So yes Rondo probably had a "real" one as in one time it worked, but inert means it doesnt work anymore and its almost impossible to get the actual high explosive rounds for them. They arent like switches where hundreds of thousands came over from china. Which is why rondo never blew anything up lol we know he wouldve if he had the ability. On the other hand the 600 Mac11 was almost certainly full auto. Not only are they the cheapest machine gun you can legally buy with paperwork, were there tons of unregistered ones floating around the entire United States. And if you got an open bolt Mac11, especially one that was converted to semi auto, it takes a solid 5 mins to make them fire full auto again and a ton of them basically "break" or "wear out" in a way where theyre full auto again. This was way before switches or anyone having FA handguns or even rifles. 600 apparently been on demon time for over 10 years.
All them paperwork dudes were bogus smh
Rondo got 39 years to be alive he'd be dead out in chicago
damn rondo got a trini uncle named yellowman he a real OG
All paperwork is public records y'all goofy ASL
king of chi drill
Meet the soldier
Tooka was not GD he was a civilian
D rose wasn't there he was locked up around that time
Just pumping vids out aren't we
Anything about 600 is clipped up from the long as vid he did about 600 thats been out for weeks
lol why are you even following then that’s what you want from a creator you follow
Rondo can’t rap 🤯
It was a AT4 not RPG
All that time over sum one that wasn’t in the game 😂 rondo seemed savage as fuk
Nu 9 lost all is road credit when he tried to snake cdai free 22 F 9 🤬🤔😤
Rondo and cdai will rot in prison 😂
so snitching is bad but rondo trying to blame it all on cdai is okay
Rondo could’ve been a star…
He should be rondonumba39
U can buy rpg/rocket launcher it's just the rocket is the hard part to get and can't have without the right licence
Cdai and drose were crash dummies i dont feel bad about their sentences but damn i do feel bad. The most active dudes for their people but the people just treated em like they dead. Thats just how it goes tho
Getting locs in jail sus af idc idc 😂😂😂
What happend to trap geek??? He fell off the map..