It was just Riski who didn't know what's going on and doing random shit then :). Now everything is fine but you're one of those badass persons, trying to put salt into the wounds.. ^^
@YYONDERR go to the wdg discord, they have a doc. you have to have at least be wdg rank level 9 (and have beaten a lvl 9+song) to actually have a chance of getting in
im a pretty decent player but ive been stuck at my current skill level for quite some time, with that challenge campaign and the tips you've provided i hope to become better, i honestly appreciate these videos keep up the good work!
Can we get a video on headsets/controllers for beat saber. I'm very curious about why pepole choose what. And what you could benefit by using a vr setup over another.
you can probably get good on anything considering I can hit saint vibro on vive edit: should mention tho that if you get pcvr that base station 2.0 might be useful for tracking
@Otricity I might be 1 year late, but I can’t find ”Mitchel’s grip” for the index controllers. I recently switched from htc to index and the difference is huge. I am currently looking for a nice grip to use, and ”Mitchel’s grip” caught my eye, but I can’t find it anywhere. I was just wondering where you found that grip from, and if it’s still being used. :))
It’s interesting that so many top challenge players play on rift s. I wonder if the controller weight is what allows them to keep stamina up better than a vive player for example.
there are multiple advantages to lighter controllers, they allow for more stamina, faster movements and even more control at times, having played on both vive and rift S consistently I can say that rift s is practically cheating in comparison
@@Epsilon_ rift s has better tracking then any other headset out there, except for quest, which is basically the only rival to it in tracking.. but index, the base stations dont last long and it does not have the feature to look anyway and still track like the rift s does, and the only tracking the cv1 has is whatever is in front of you
Switching from an original Vive to a CK1 is what caused me to pass some songs for the first time. Vive has vastly superior tracking but rift has a vastly better experience in my view. I capped in the 600s and can’t keep tracking consistent on CK1 or stamina on vive.
@@beatsaberchallengecommunit2318 both vive and index have superior tracking technology compared to any other headset on the market including rift s, faulty hardware cannot be considered there. according to reddit rift s fails a lot more often than both steamvr headsets. you might say "i know a lot of people with vive/index who have bad tracking". sure but how much time passed until they started experiencing it? i dont know a single person who had tracking issues out of the box. and if it does happen, you can always do an RMA. Also quest tracking is not even near the rift s's cause of small camera fov what causes issues especially on acc maps where you do large slow swings.
Tracking was my only hurdle to hitting my first 97 and 98%s. Moving the height in the settings and moving my CK1 sensors to point more inward helped but hasn’t fixed it. I’m seeing other tips to secure the batteries better that I’ll be trying. A single hit under 100 tanks the entire run so the random 50 score on a full swing is killer.
By any chance, are you on Rift? Also, is it only ever your left saber that loses tracking on slow stuff? I have a similar issue and I'll be playing acc maps, around 98-99%, and then I my saber loses tracking and twitches through the block giving me
This entire video is so awesome, what the fuck. All of these tips are exactly what I needed, so useful for what I've been trying to learn at the moment, this should help LOADS with getting better with what seems to be the new form of difficulty, since I already have reading and streams and shit.
I'm not nearly on the level to do any of this yet, but when hitting something like the tech maps at 10:55 makes me really afraid of crashing my controllers into each other! How do you all prevent that from happening?? Like when a red note to the right and blue to the left. I can read it and hit it (if the song is on my level) but i miss them every know and then because I'm being so cautious.
move your arms less and keep in mind that hitboxes are massive, you can just hit the notes with the tips of your sabers and hold them out in front of you to hit those types of cross patterns
If it's purely a flexibility issue, you could try doing some light stretches to improve flexibility in your wrists. From the research I did for the 4th BSRA episode, I concluded that, for the most part, static stretches do increase flexibility of the involved muscle groups. As for which stretches you should actually do, if I were you, I would research which stretches might be able to help and then try some of them out. Just make sure not to overstretch and if there are further problems reach out to your doctor. If you want a little more info, you can watch the 4th BSRA episode here: th-cam.com/video/BEe4lue62Qs/w-d-xo.html
JustCallMeJack actually has most of his hours on Vive. I wrote "Rift S" because I was under the impression that he is currently playing on Rift S. If I'm wrong, my apologies. Also, there are quite a few index players in top 100 who would be overqualified for playing challenge maps, but its possible that they just don't like them as much as normal maps. Go check out Jacks stream and ask him about it the next time he goes live. Also another streamer/speed player who uses Vive is Pink Armadillo. He streams at www.twitch.tv/pinkarmadillo_. I play on CV1, but both Jack and Pink are easily faster than me. It's definitely possible to be very fast with index/vive controllers.
For extremely fast vibro I do a jitterclick-like technique where I tense my entire body, making my arms shake. I also get a headache lol. Maybe cheesing is a better idea for less injury. Edit: ignore this comment lol I was running my mouth
not completely true, I'm on vive and it is perfectly valid for challenge maps but it has a low skill cap in anything based on speed, however, it allows for complex movement just fine so you'll pretty much need to do tech if you want it to be valid for now
@@justcallmejack8151 Yeah sorry. I put "Rift S" because I thought you were currently on Rift S. I know you used to play on Vive, but I heard that you made the switch to Rift S. My apologies, I should've just asked instead.
If you have quest link and you own the game on pc, you can use the custom campaigns mod like normal. But other than than I'm going to ask Samich if we can get a list/playlist of maps from the challenge campaign so that quest players can play along as well. Unfortunately you probably won't be able to use the discord bot and stuff, but you can still post scores to scoresaber and join discussion in the discord, so that might be valuable.
as a vibro player most of us do not cheese, no one should cheese unless it is needed, bc it doesnt help you learn how to actually do them. tbh idk why they put this in edit: most
@@astrella_1248 ye i saw that but why do they put it in in the first flace? ghey are just teaching people how to cheese and take the easier route to pass hard maps
I already replied to miitchel and yalter on this topic, but I'll post it again: "Overall I think it's unfair to withhold information like that from the community. If we acknowledge that it's a cheesy strategy, then players will still be able to distinguish between the skilled, and the unskilled. If a player resorts to cheesing, but we all know they cheesed, then that takes away from impressiveness of the play, which is okay in my opinion." If someone uses the strategy exclusively to pass vibro maps, then that's okay. It just means that they won't get community recognition and they themselves won't get the same amount of pride as if they passed the map not cheesing, which are, in my opinion, two of the main reasons challenge maps are fun in the first place.
@@XoRoseGold Skill and rank has nothing to do what i meant though. Index/Vive controllers weigh heavier than CV1/RiftS controllers. It's much easier and less stressful to swing the lighter controllers around compared to the heavier opposition. Hence why I said that its not surprising all of these good players that are good at challenge maps use CV1/RiftS
While the video says that I use rift S that was only for a few months since it broke and I'm back on vive, I'm still about the same level, you just need to do tech maps cause speed is nearly impossible on vive
im just gonna paste what SSnowy said | I already replied to miitchel and yalter on this topic, but I'll post it again: "Overall I think it's unfair to withhold information like that from the community. If we acknowledge that it's a cheesy strategy, then players will still be able to distinguish between the skilled, and the unskilled. If a player resorts to cheesing, but we all know they cheesed, then that takes away from impressiveness of the play, which is okay in my opinion." If someone uses the strategy exclusively to pass vibro maps, then that's okay. It just means that they won't get community recognition and they themselves won't get the same amount of pride as if they passed the map not cheesing, which are, in my opinion, two of the main reasons challenge maps are fun in the first place.
Why the vibro mappers be so lazy? Half of them are just repeating sections with no lighting at all... As someone just getting into mapping, kinda disappointed they couldn't even bother to put ANY kind of lighting even...I almost didn't do a light show on my first map, but I'm really glad I did. Really brightens it up.
i just find it interesting that even being active in the community i have never learned about cheesing, feels a bit unfair for some people to know about it and the rest not.
Yeah, that's what the guys in the C2 discord said. But overall I think it's unfair to withhold information like that from the community. If we acknowledge that it's a cheesy strategy, then players will still be able to distinguish between the skilled, and the unskilled. If a player resorts to cheesing, but we all know they cheesed, then that takes away from impressiveness of the play, which is okay in my opinion.
im happy with that snowy said "cheesing is bad", but also doing a full explaination on how to cheese is meh to me (not saying the video is bad tho, just making that clear. im widepeepohappy that this will introduce people to challenge and such)
astrella be like... GAHD... IM ONA ROLL
xD
Lmao good one cutie
Ikr
GAHD he do be on a roll tho 😳
@@lucasleon7844 wtf
Good timing my friends
My name is ssnowy and taichi beat me in machinegun
Pepehands
Cool
9:50 pog my old chandelier vid
I tried for like an hour to get a good recording of myself doing it, but I couldn't. Your play is too good :p
Pog
Pongers
Snowy: "This Episode is about..."
Me: "... JOINING WDG"
lulw
Kick and nearly get banned for pissing people off in WDG ^^
It was just Riski who didn't know what's going on and doing random shit then :). Now everything is fine but you're one of those badass persons, trying to put salt into the wounds.. ^^
Kick yea sorry I have so much salt in my house I just dont know where to put it ^^
Lmao
@YYONDERR go to the wdg discord, they have a doc. you have to have at least be wdg rank level 9 (and have beaten a lvl 9+song) to actually have a chance of getting in
14:09 THATS MY BOY YOOOO
YOOO CRACKHEAD MAN
15:26 Chicken Numget
congrats on making it in the vid
wait did he just reference cum 2 15:51
"The c2 discord"
did we make it?
We did it
YO, C2 rep
Pog
im a pretty decent player but ive been stuck at my current skill level for quite some time, with that challenge campaign and the tips you've provided i hope to become better, i honestly appreciate these videos keep up the good work!
Yeah the campaign was oddly challenging
My man shouted out c2 Pog
SSnowy your insane for making these good job
I really wish custom campaigns were available on quest
yes, probably might happen in the future?
Can we get a video on headsets/controllers for beat saber. I'm very curious about why pepole choose what. And what you could benefit by using a vr setup over another.
Vive: it gets beaten out by index and oculus in every category so don't buy it
@@justcallmejack8151 I am using the vive , its so sad lmao
*Cries in Windows mixed reality*
you can probably get good on anything considering I can hit saint vibro on vive
edit: should mention tho that if you get pcvr that base station 2.0 might be useful for tracking
@Otricity I might be 1 year late, but I can’t find ”Mitchel’s grip” for the index controllers. I recently switched from htc to index and the difference is huge. I am currently looking for a nice grip to use, and ”Mitchel’s grip” caught my eye, but I can’t find it anywhere. I was just wondering where you found that grip from, and if it’s still being used. :))
These videos have nice editing
ya they really do
Glad you think so!
@@CubeCommunity what software do you use?
@@Flaime69 PRIVATE INFO 😏
It’s interesting that so many top challenge players play on rift s. I wonder if the controller weight is what allows them to keep stamina up better than a vive player for example.
there are multiple advantages to lighter controllers, they allow for more stamina, faster movements and even more control at times, having played on both vive and rift S consistently I can say that rift s is practically cheating in comparison
@@justcallmejack8151 People says rift s got the worst tracking and mic though.
But now I have more reasons to keep using rift s.
@@Epsilon_ rift s has better tracking then any other headset out there, except for quest, which is basically the only rival to it in tracking.. but index, the base stations dont last long and it does not have the feature to look anyway and still track like the rift s does, and the only tracking the cv1 has is whatever is in front of you
Switching from an original Vive to a CK1 is what caused me to pass some songs for the first time. Vive has vastly superior tracking but rift has a vastly better experience in my view. I capped in the 600s and can’t keep tracking consistent on CK1 or stamina on vive.
@@beatsaberchallengecommunit2318 both vive and index have superior tracking technology compared to any other headset on the market including rift s, faulty hardware cannot be considered there. according to reddit rift s fails a lot more often than both steamvr headsets. you might say "i know a lot of people with vive/index who have bad tracking". sure but how much time passed until they started experiencing it? i dont know a single person who had tracking issues out of the box. and if it does happen, you can always do an RMA. Also quest tracking is not even near the rift s's cause of small camera fov what causes issues especially on acc maps where you do large slow swings.
Tracking was my only hurdle to hitting my first 97 and 98%s. Moving the height in the settings and moving my CK1 sensors to point more inward helped but hasn’t fixed it. I’m seeing other tips to secure the batteries better that I’ll be trying. A single hit under 100 tanks the entire run so the random 50 score on a full swing is killer.
By any chance, are you on Rift? Also, is it only ever your left saber that loses tracking on slow stuff?
I have a similar issue and I'll be playing acc maps, around 98-99%, and then I my saber loses tracking and twitches through the block giving me
The Audio of Tiefsee in ultra-slow motion playing in the Background of 5:39 is so cursed...
This entire video is so awesome, what the fuck. All of these tips are exactly what I needed, so useful for what I've been trying to learn at the moment, this should help LOADS with getting better with what seems to be the new form of difficulty, since I already have reading and streams and shit.
11:48 im getting nam flashbacks from "break" in the background lol
Awsome series
I'm not nearly on the level to do any of this yet, but when hitting something like the tech maps at 10:55 makes me really afraid of crashing my controllers into each other! How do you all prevent that from happening?? Like when a red note to the right and blue to the left. I can read it and hit it (if the song is on my level) but i miss them every know and then because I'm being so cautious.
move your arms less and keep in mind that hitboxes are massive, you can just hit the notes with the tips of your sabers and hold them out in front of you to hit those types of cross patterns
"Vibro is a"
*Fidget Spinners is in the background*
ssnowy kinda pogchamp ngl
I love these videos Ngl
same!
What is the song of the map on 12:00 ? Sounds like a song from Laur
Terminal missa
@@Iniixia , i found it already, but still thanks :)
horizontal jumps are the bane of my existence
nice stuff homie
I’m far away from doing challenge and tech maps lol. But I will only play these kind of maps because they’re so god damn fun.
Song played by KingRazer at 14:56?
Altale
i see saint pog
I love these
Been waiting for this one, the acc was a really nice one but this one i wanted way more, also im 90% sure jack is index but maybe im wrong
nah he vive player who also does rift s afaik
How can I download the Challenge Campaign on quest?
You dont
What would be your recommendation if I can not move my wrists too much? Like I can do 90° top 45° bottom at most.
Accuracy is based on wrist follow through movements so that might be sort of difficult for ya..
Surgically removing some pesky bones here and there should give you the flexibility needed.
If it's purely a flexibility issue, you could try doing some light stretches to improve flexibility in your wrists. From the research I did for the 4th BSRA episode, I concluded that, for the most part, static stretches do increase flexibility of the involved muscle groups. As for which stretches you should actually do, if I were you, I would research which stretches might be able to help and then try some of them out. Just make sure not to overstretch and if there are further problems reach out to your doctor. If you want a little more info, you can watch the 4th BSRA episode here: th-cam.com/video/BEe4lue62Qs/w-d-xo.html
Is there any good index/vive challenge map players or na is it only rift players because of the lighter controllers
JustCallMeJack actually has most of his hours on Vive. I wrote "Rift S" because I was under the impression that he is currently playing on Rift S. If I'm wrong, my apologies. Also, there are quite a few index players in top 100 who would be overqualified for playing challenge maps, but its possible that they just don't like them as much as normal maps. Go check out Jacks stream and ask him about it the next time he goes live. Also another streamer/speed player who uses Vive is Pink Armadillo. He streams at www.twitch.tv/pinkarmadillo_. I play on CV1, but both Jack and Pink are easily faster than me. It's definitely possible to be very fast with index/vive controllers.
My rank and skill increased when I got my Index and put down the CV1. To each their own
@@ssnowy4059 jack switched to rift s a while ago but then his broke pretty recently so he's back on vive rn
person plays on index
10:49 whats that map in the background?
francium
Scary
there are two types of people in this world
Is there any way to play the playlist with an oculus quest?
It's possible, join their discord for info
For extremely fast vibro I do a jitterclick-like technique where I tense my entire body, making my arms shake. I also get a headache lol. Maybe cheesing is a better idea for less injury. Edit: ignore this comment lol I was running my mouth
cheesing doesn't take skill since you're not even trying to hit the pattern and just ruins leaderboards
also cheesing hurts more than doing vibro normally so probably not the way to go
Inscolosus I know
Astrella_ yeah true, after trying it for a bit I found it really isn’t helpful, so I’ll start trying different techniques.
icicle stinger 2nd pass will be mine
Noe
WDG BREAD yes
Solar 🙂
I would never become a challenge map player
:pensive:
Imagine being a challenge player smh
team C2!
LETS FUCKING
GOOOOOOOOOOO
this is my favorite BSRA yet 🙏keep up the good work!
The only high pp maps that I struggle with is tinnitus and sacrament
Also it’s funny how I figured out most of these while learning the game...
Oh and for jumps I stretch my arms out all the way in front of me and use 95% wrist lol
Someone explain to me why I can invert jump vibro better than I can linear vibro
My favorite thing to do
PogChamp
Does anyone have the link for the custom campaigns mod
Basically my vive is obsolete here pepehands
not completely true, I'm on vive and it is perfectly valid for challenge maps but it has a low skill cap in anything based on speed, however, it allows for complex movement just fine so you'll pretty much need to do tech if you want it to be valid for now
Inscolosus be kinda sweating tho 😳😳
pog c2 gang
5:17 whats the song or level map?
Hayakuchi test (normal) by BananenTropfen
no vive wand players featured FeelsBadMan
wait what, I'm on vive and I got featured
JustCallMeJack 14:40 says you’re on rift s
@@justcallmejack8151 Yeah sorry. I put "Rift S" because I thought you were currently on Rift S. I know you used to play on Vive, but I heard that you made the switch to Rift S. My apologies, I should've just asked instead.
Pog
Isn't jack on vive?????????
he switched to rift s but his broke
I stick my arms out and just shake my wrists
Where are my quest players who probaly can't get the challenge custom campaings😭
here :))))))))
@@Binginator im with u
If you have quest link and you own the game on pc, you can use the custom campaigns mod like normal. But other than than I'm going to ask Samich if we can get a list/playlist of maps from the challenge campaign so that quest players can play along as well. Unfortunately you probably won't be able to use the discord bot and stuff, but you can still post scores to scoresaber and join discussion in the discord, so that might be valuable.
You should be able to mod the quest now via a PC
@@XoRoseGold i know how to mod i even make videos but some mods are pc only and i dont have a link so yea thats going to be difficult
Wait. Doesn’t JustCallMeJack use HTC Vive?
1:52 bruh
as a vibro player most of us do not cheese, no one should cheese unless it is needed, bc it doesnt help you learn how to actually do them. tbh idk why they put this in
edit: most
A lot of challenge players do cheese also 3:10
@@astrella_1248 ye i saw that but why do they put it in in the first flace? ghey are just teaching people how to cheese and take the easier route to pass hard maps
I already replied to miitchel and yalter on this topic, but I'll post it again: "Overall I think it's unfair to withhold information like that from the community. If we acknowledge that it's a cheesy strategy, then players will still be able to distinguish between the skilled, and the unskilled. If a player resorts to cheesing, but we all know they cheesed, then that takes away from impressiveness of the play, which is okay in my opinion." If someone uses the strategy exclusively to pass vibro maps, then that's okay. It just means that they won't get community recognition and they themselves won't get the same amount of pride as if they passed the map not cheesing, which are, in my opinion, two of the main reasons challenge maps are fun in the first place.
I feel absolutely disgusted and betrayed D: I wanna play fair and square!
You mentioned the campaign but where do I get it? I even searched on page 2 of Google :/
The campaign is releasing tomorrow but for now you can join the discord in the description of the video
I joined already 👍 thanks for the answer.
thanks to telling me about the pizza strat i use to think people are actually reading the stacked streams XD
Most top level players can
i have nothing against anime but why are like almost every ranked song anime related
Bruh imagine playing chal maps
cough
@@radiate2710 cough
is there any pro player that uses htc vive
jack used to be on vive and he's back on vive now since his rift s broke pretty recently
PogU
Ah yes, all of the good challenge map players are either on CV1 or Rift S. Not surprising since you can swing the controllers around like nothing
Interestingly enough my rank and skill increased when I got my Index and put down the CV1. To each their own
@@XoRoseGold Skill and rank has nothing to do what i meant though. Index/Vive controllers weigh heavier than CV1/RiftS controllers. It's much easier and less stressful to swing the lighter controllers around compared to the heavier opposition. Hence why I said that its not surprising all of these good players that are good at challenge maps use CV1/RiftS
Cosmos controllers
While the video says that I use rift S that was only for a few months since it broke and I'm back on vive, I'm still about the same level, you just need to do tech maps cause speed is nearly impossible on vive
Oh a challenge campaign........ I’m on quest though.......
quest integration is being made available to quest players :)
Oh ok
7:55
Challenge maps > other maps + vibros
challenge mapo
2:32
um the tech playlist is just a bunch of random numbers and numbers
Clicked on this vid, 777 likes exactly 16k views
imagine teaching people how to cheese & pizza
im just gonna paste what SSnowy said |
I already replied to miitchel and yalter on this topic, but I'll post it again: "Overall I think it's unfair to withhold information like that from the community. If we acknowledge that it's a cheesy strategy, then players will still be able to distinguish between the skilled, and the unskilled. If a player resorts to cheesing, but we all know they cheesed, then that takes away from impressiveness of the play, which is okay in my opinion." If someone uses the strategy exclusively to pass vibro maps, then that's okay. It just means that they won't get community recognition and they themselves won't get the same amount of pride as if they passed the map not cheesing, which are, in my opinion, two of the main reasons challenge maps are fun in the first place.
I hate so much jumps
i like tech map, pls bsr me tech map
Why the vibro mappers be so lazy? Half of them are just repeating sections with no lighting at all...
As someone just getting into mapping, kinda disappointed they couldn't even bother to put ANY kind of lighting even...I almost didn't do a light show on my first map, but I'm really glad I did. Really brightens it up.
Almost everyone plays with static lights off because it’s distracting. Vibro mappers are not lazy for not adding pointless lights
my boy calvin im second btw
i dont like that peopl are being teached how to cheese in this video :(
i just find it interesting that even being active in the community i have never learned about cheesing, feels a bit unfair for some people to know about it and the rest not.
Yeah, that's what the guys in the C2 discord said. But overall I think it's unfair to withhold information like that from the community. If we acknowledge that it's a cheesy strategy, then players will still be able to distinguish between the skilled, and the unskilled. If a player resorts to cheesing, but we all know they cheesed, then that takes away from impressiveness of the play, which is okay in my opinion.
im happy with that snowy said "cheesing is bad", but also doing a full explaination on how to cheese is meh to me
(not saying the video is bad tho, just making that clear. im widepeepohappy that this will introduce people to challenge and such)
Challenge maps are ducking disgusting
Bruh
Brah
breh
Brih